Johnny,

What Media Matters didn't say in their piece about Limbaugh mistatement that FISA had denied a warrant to search Zacarias Moussaoui, that the FISA had brought an investigation against the FBI for inflating evidence in their warrant applications and also sharing the information with criminal investigators.

Because of the investigation the FBI had become skittish about applying for warrants, just as they had become skittish about avoiding charges of racial profiling.

I'm not arguing that the complaint by FISA should not have been raised or that the FBI was not at fault, but it does show you that there is more to the story than the NSA merely getting a warrant 72 hours after they have gotten their information. ANd it certainly has significance into how the Bushies and the NSA might feel in a post-9/11 world.

Of course this present picture more complex than the typical media narrative. And it's quite ironic that Olbermann is accusing Limbaugh of lying and keeping his followers ignorant, because with all the resources of MSNBC behind, Olbermann rarely knows anything but the most rudimentary information.

If this ole girl can keep up with things and know some details, why can't Shaman Olbermann?

Answer-- He's only reading Media Matters and their keeping him ignorant, indeed...

A lengthy comment has been deleted: it was nothing more than a huge cut-and-paste of a copyrighted article from another source. You want to point someone to an article, give a link.

Cecilia, excellent points as always.

Oops, sorry about the cut-n-paste, Johnny.

Excuse all the typos too. I haven't had any coffee yet.

http://bdsweb.ballroom.com/billssoapbox/fascistbastards01.htm

Some cut-and-paste is OK, but reposting an entire article, especially one that's copyrighted, is not the kind of situation we want to find ourselves in. Remember that Mr Cox had a run-in with the NYT and while he got them to back off, we don't want to rile them up needlessly when the points can be made in other ways.

Get a cup of joe and keep those comments coming!

worst person criteria: I may have deciphered what constitutes worst person--- ratings and popularity. the higher your ratings and larger your audience the worse you are and vice versa. Thus, because Keith's ratings are so low, he is one of the World's Best People. Whereas OReilly and Limbaugh dominate him, so they are the worst. Many failures in life assume winners have had to cheat, lie and steal to get ahead. It is this type of thinking that allows them a certain smugness in their lack of success. When Keith lies awake at night and relentlessly ponders how people so obviously less INSERT WORD Of CHOICE HERE than Keith can be 8 to 10 times more successful than he, he concludes they must be evil and he is determined to expose them to the world for what they are--the World's Worst Person.

Irish,

I think Keith ought to go with the priceless slogan for MSNBC that you suggested yesterday:

"MSNBC---News and Commentary for cable's most exclusive audience."

You want to go home and rethink your life.