This site is unreal. How do people this stupid function in the real world?

The bigger question is how do they get hired by MSNBC.

I can't take it anymore. Olbermann is not only a liar...he's a traitor.

I was talking about you.

JD

I feel like I'm being called in from the bullpen. After the cop bashin' segment, Edward R. Moron ran a piece that probably ran a dozen times during the day about that English guy who wacked his wife and kid. I guess this was Keith trying to grab some of Nancy Grace's viewers. He tried to duck tail that into something that did'nt make sense. And ran that into the Schiavo promo.

Worst Persons made no sense, some English judge, some guy who likes to steal manhole covers, and golfers wanting to have sex.

Yes I had to bail on Mo Rocca too!!!! But maybe there was a Countdown First!!!! No viewers were left at the end of tonights show!!!!!

Johnny you're gona have to start assigning Olberman watchers for the night, this show is starting to get to you. I know, I'm there,it's got to me, but. We are all gona have to start taking one for the team!!!! For JD'S sake!! And sanity.

I'll be impressed if you leave this post up - but here goes anyway.

First time to your little braintrust here, and it is fascinating how delusional you people are. Let's just take today's posting...

Olbermann referenced Novak's disparaging review of the speech not, as you suggest, because he believes Novak to be a "quote-worthy" respected newsman, but rather because Novak is know to be a staunch Bush defender. I'll dumb it down as much as possible for you nitwits - NOVAK BUSH are BFF NOVAK NO LIKE BUSH SPEECH - BUSH SPEECH BAD.

"Regurgitated" - Go and look at W's past speeches. Go do it.

"misquote" - the shirt. Yeah "support our troops" ?????????? "support the troops". I believe a lawyer would call that 'immaterial' and anyone else would call you 'pathetic' for even pointing that out. That seems the MO here though. Pointing out immaterial things and finding ways to convince yourself that you aren't total loons.

WHat the hell am i doing - i'm going to study. if i don't get my education, i'll wind up like you folk. i'll be back to make you feel bad about yourselves, though.

take care - and quit being so crazy. Nobody's always right and nobody's always wrong. The best you can do is just try not be an a--hole. Strive not to be a--holes, guys...

Your pal,

Dave

Hey Dave

We function just fine. By the way what do you do for a life, MR.GENIUS???? What uncommon powers of intellect do you hold sir??

WHAT SAY YOU???

Wow! if I go back to school and study real hard can I call people a--holes like Dave can??

So many fallacies, so little time...

First of all, Novak is a "staunch Bush defender"? Like how he opposed him tooth-and-nail in the run-up to the Iraq War? Like how he said they wouldn't find weapons of mass destruction? Like how he opposes Bush's Middle East policy? THAT kind of staunch defender?

Moving on...yes, the shirt misquote was a nitpick. But a deliberate one. You see, when somebody is so sloppy that they can't even quote eight words verbatim, you have to wonder what they're doing on a national newcast. This is the guy who didn't even know who was in Bush's cabinet, and who used a phony quote last week to lie about O'Reilly. It's what criminologists call a "pattern".

When you watch too much Olby, the patterns start to stick out like a sore thumb. He's as subtle as a load of bricks.

Study hard, Dave!

You'll be out of junior high in no time, young man!

one last thing, Novak a Bush defender?? you see when you let little minds like your's run. You trip up. YOU DON'T READ NOVAK'S COLUMNS! But you can come to your own conclusion. Just like Letterman said 60% of O'Reilly's show is crap but he doesn't watch it. What are they spiking the KOOL-AID with tonight frat-boy?

As a newbie to "Countdown" analyzing, I struggle to get a grip on whether this show is hip ha-ha's with some serious commentary thrown in -- or serious commentary with hip ha-ha's to provide breaks�

Sadly, I missed the lead story on the SOTU and the lack of further details on the poll.

The Entwhistle story was a rehash of the 6 o'clock news with nothing new added. In fact, the last quote of the story from a local who attended Rachel and Lillian's funeral sort of sums the whole story: "The whole situation is baffling to me," the man said.

Yeah, it is and why run story that left us hanging?

The serious news/commentary was repeats of CNN or Fox news spliced together with things like "Top 3 Bites" and "Worst Person in World" that weren't all that amusing. Except, of course, the man who steals manhole covers and the golfer's magazine poll with the KO wisecrack about "Masters playing." About as funny as a bag of hammers.

Mo Rocco? The ability to talk through those awkward silences after bad jokes made it sound like a bad Burlesque routine minus the rim shots.

So I do not get really frustrated I am going to read the Wiki entry on Terri before interview tomorrow. Maybe.

Sorry, JD. This is repost. Transferring from a Word did not work well...

No problem JJ. Turn off Curly Quotes when you compose in word and the transfer will go just fine.

Hey Now

I was just reading some blog that called this place a "twisted, horrid website." I don't know about you but DARTH-PUCK likes that. I was just checking out Bloggerman. (I know, why puck??) He has not updated his blog since early December. Ghost writers still on winter solstice?

Apparently you have forgotten that there are still some people who actually disagree with the President (I know, what a shock).

Fine, KO is not totally objective. But it is YOUR fault that the media is this way. We don't get "news" anymore - we get regurgitated sound bites and talking points, bloviating and posturing, and red-faced shouting. If you disagree with the host, you're a "pinhead" or a "traitor" or a "loon". Dissent is crushed - there is no free expression of ideas. Ann Coulter can joke about poisoning an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court, but heaven forfend Paul Begala even attempt such a thing.

BTW, I note that you failed to mention that Sheehan was released and the charges would be dropped because the Capitol Police "screwed up" (their words, not mine). They violated her First Amendment rights (and the rights of the congressman's wife who was also ejected) clearly and plainly.

YOU set the playing field. YOU set the rules. And yet YOU want us stifled and silenced because WE happen to disagree.

FORGET IT!

Slink on back to Faux News and let Billy-boy tell you another tall tale.

Trekkie,

Why is that you folks, who want to take this site to task, sound like those kooks who stand by the road holding signs saying "THE END IS HERE"?

I suppose you are all watching too many shows about Klingons and ferangees...however you spell it...

The solution to an ill-mannered host is not to go with a host who rarely airs an opinion counter to his.

If O'Reilly calls someone a "pinhead", at least that person was invited on the show and expressed his views.

The ultimate stifling of speech is to do an Olbermann and pretend counter views don't exist.

p.s. No one cares what Ann Coulter says because she's made herself a joke. So has spinmeister and uber Clinton prevaricator, Paul Begala, but for other obvious reasons...

Keith's fan base is becoming clearer to me. First we had "Obi-Wan," now we have "Trekkie." Keith's fans seem to have an overwhelming urge to dwell in fictional worlds. I posit that people who believe in "Klingons" and "the force" are attracted to Keith's brand of news. After all, which show is most likely to claim that UFO's or tales of the supernatural are real? Keith's Ohio conspiracy theories were actally less believable than an episode of Star Trek.

This quote from Trekkie is incorrect enough to appear on Countdown:

"Fine, KO is not totally objective. But it is YOUR fault . . ." Hunh? Whah? Duh?

Mr. Trekkie

"Ko is not totally objective."

I commend you sir!

You have taken the first step in the twelve step program....I think.

Fine, I'll answer. The "news" today not only tells you what happened, it tells you what you should think about it. A panel of four will have three conservatives and a moderate who looks liberal. These "liberals" are then cuffed about like rag dolls because they dare speak an opinion that is not in line with whatever the Talking Points are. The Bill O'Reillys and Sean Hannitys of the world are free to be as vitrolic and crass as they like (since when is joking about al-Qaeda blowing up San Francisco "responsible journalism").

But when the "liberals" ratchet up the dialogue to match, you whine and complain about how unfair it is. You can't have it both ways - either we get to complain when you cheap shot us, or we fight on your level. Your choice.

The President sees no dissent, because "Free Speech Zones" and "pre-screened audiences" surround him with only those who support him. You want softball questions? Watch a Bush "town hall" meeting. There's more softballs there than in a beer league game. Dissent does not have to be hostile. But it deserves to be addressed by the people in charge.

The Republicans howled when Clinton defined "is" and yet we're not allowed to do the same when this administration splits hairs on "domestic" versus "international"? Why? Certainly the issue of American civil rights is more important than who was polishing the President's tallywhacker. But talking about it is "aiding the terrorists" and "subversive". How can there be a full and fair hearing if you won't let a little sunshine in?

Fine, we lost. But that doesn't mean we're going away. Until the First Amendment is repealed, I am going to exercise my right to free speech. You may exercise your right to ignore me, but you WILL NOT suppress me.

Trekkie,

Anyone who equates being criticised or made fun of-- as suppression, very likely has so huge an inferiority complex that he/she suppresses or censors himself.

We will ridicule your apochalyptic thinking and make fun of your lack of logic skills.

We can't help you liberals to feel better about yourselves. I'm afraid you guys are stuck with you.

Dear Trekkie,

It seems to me you have a "Prime Directive": Democrats = the crew of the Enterprise and Republicans = Klingons. Perhaps all discussion with you will be less than useful as a result?

You wrote: "You may exercise your right to ignore me, but you WILL NOT suppress me."

I admire your strength to overcome our obvious attempts at suppression! How you are capable of overcoming our anti-matter posts is beyond me. Your keyboard must have a dilithium positron source which counteracts our suppression beam!

Trekkie wrote:

"BTW, I note that you failed to mention that Sheehan was released and the charges would be dropped because the Capitol Police "screwed up" (their words, not mine). They violated her First Amendment rights (and the rights of the congressman's wife who was also ejected) clearly and plainly."

Did you know that another protestor was tossed from the proceedings? His shirt had just the opposite message from Sheehan: "Support the Troops Defending Our Freedom." Perhaps it is best not to wear sloganeering T-shirts to the SOTU?

Read this if you want to know the whole story:

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/02/01/D8FGKS480.html

Excuse me! I said "his shirt" instead of "her shirt" when talking about Young being tossed from the proceedings.

For all the newcomers, here is a crash course on Olbermann Watch:

Basically, this site is nothing but Blinded-by-the-Right douchebags who cannot concede that a) Dear Leader makes mistakes, and b) someone has the AUDACITY to call him on it! Olbermann is a liberal shill, oh my! Must turn on Fox News to get unbiased reporting!

Has KO ever had someone on his show who disagrees with him?I've only seen scripted interviews with his sycophant buddies

Ya,I have yet to hear any explain his lack of an opposite opinion. That is the thing. KO doesn't think he giving an opinion, he believes what he says is the absolute truth not a view point. At the very least, have an opposing view and "scream that person down and call him a pin head".

It is constantly amusing to me the lengths people who support President Moron will go to trying to convince themselves that they aren't complete idiots. Attacking KO for being one of the few media figures to point out the fascist bent of the current rulers in Washington is just one example. It's sad for those of us that aren't mumbling bovine Bush supporters to see just how easy it is to get 40-45% of the poor and stupid to willingly allow moneyied interests carve up this country while they cheer-lead from the sidelines (not noticing the hands in their pockets). So, please do carry on supporting the Moron in Chief; it only reflects poorly on those that stupidly believe the obvious lies.

If you support Bush your stupid? Way to insult 50 million Americans who voted for Bush in 04'. I could never be so arrogant in my views to ignore the opinion of so many of my country men.I respect the liberal view point, just not liberals who the the self- righteous, elitist attitude who fail to realize that world is to complex to paint things black and white and to believe that your view point is infallible.

The one comforting thought is that the vast majority of Americans aren't on the far left which is why the they have to bang their drums so loud.

"but...but... Clinton!"

Typical wing-nut response to any attack on President Chimpy McFlightsuit.

Where can I find the hourly prime time viewers of the cable networks as sometimes posted on TVNewser? Brian is starting to selectively post these ratings.

Trixie,there many of us who just think that Olbermann is a low grade idiot.His childish rants about that boob O'Reilly portray a very small minded man,jealous of another's success.He really is a pitiful character.

Trixie,I might add that whereas FOX is biased to the right,Olbermann may as well be working for the DNC.

"The bigger question is how do they get hired by MSNBC."

At least the have hired KO to make up for Matthews and the other idiots that make up their programming...

Please, can anyone name any other TV journalist/analyst/news person that has made personal attacks on another 58 times or more? Does anyone consider this "professional" ??

This site seems to be pulling alot of audience from the Daily Kosmonaut and the like. Has Keith called out his dogs of war? I love the well-thought-out criticisms of the site. Why be bothered by the facts when you can spew bizarre generalities like, "Typical wing-nut response to any attack on President Chimpy McFlightsuit." Why, with that sentence alone it is game set match!

Dave wrote: "If you support bush YOUR stupid?" [emphasis added].

Yes Dave, YOU'RE stupid. Zheesh... make it easy, don't you?

The 50 million or so that voted for Bush had their reasons: fear, bigotry, ignorance, inability to admit wrong (a shared trait with their hero President Moron), and greed. While "stupid" may not specifically cover all of those reasons, it's a fair heading. Voting out of fear, bigotry, ignorance, and pig-headedness is pretty stupid. And the final group, the ultra-rich and greedy, think their pulling one over on everyone else, but the joke's on them too since they have made this nation weaker and more debased than it has ever been. SO yeah Dave, you are stupid if you voted for Bush. You voted for a man that has wrecked the economy, let the roads and bridges crumble, under-funded schools and slashed student loans, made America an international pariah, allowed the worst attack in American history to happen (and then acted like a coward flying around for a day afterward), handled Katrina like a total hack, started an illegal and irrational war in iraq (which he's losing), bankrupted the government, and generally has proven that a man who hasn't done anything of note in 50 years other than snort coke and live off of his daddy's money doesn't suddenly become a leader just because 50 million people are STUPID enough to vote for him.

Is there a special on kool-aid today?

The election was won on fear. Bush supporters are the most docile, spineless excuses this world has ever seen.

KFK,

I'm especially fond of the way they invariably tout their independent mindedness, while using identical epithets, invective, and tired chicken-little hyperboles about fascism, corporate-interests, and greedy capitalists.

Oh yeah, you folks are insightful and discerning thinkers, alright. You see a link to an opposition blogsite and you think, "Hey, kids! Let's go over there and throw rocks!"

Well, as childish as it is, I'll admit this scenario has some appeal. Truth be known, we here at Olbermann Watch would enjoy it, if all your rock didn't turn out to be surly and childish mudpies.

Boy, these wing-nuts don't like the taste of their own medicine! Read your synopsis: "The Liar said..." and then you are calling critics of the site childish. So, you dumbfu¢ks still have your "SORE/LOSERMAN" t-shirts, or did ya sell 'em on eBay?

See our entry for Jan 30 as to how Olby earned that nickname.

If Olbermann is "The Liar", you should refer to Bush as "Bullshit Artist Extraordinaire". It will be interesting to find out what happened with the missing VP e-mails related to the Plame affair.
Guess we'll have to see if the GOP and the wingnut-o-sphere puts up the same stink as they did with the Rose Law Firm billing records... and if not, why not?

Anonymous,

Spoken with the sort of clarity and depth of thinking I've come to expect from foul-mouthed Olbermann fans...

Evidently you're arguing that coming over and throwing cliched invective at posters is "giving us a taste of our own medicine" since Olbermann was called a liar in a Countdown synopsis.

And this makes sense to you? Why don't you call posters here 'biased television anchormen' or 'shallow former sportscasters' too?

Or is it some sort of illogical tit-for-that thing with you? Johnny calls Olbermann a liar, you call Bush a liar...

Such incisive defense of Olbermann, Anonymous! So NOT childish...

nah..nah..na..nah..na....

I would just note in passing that Olbermann has, on more than one occasion, called people he disagrees with liars. We let him set the standard, and then follow it.

Love the latest few posts! By the way, didn't an iraqi General just write a book about how Saddam smuggled his WMD into Syria in hollowed-out commercial airliners prior to our invasion? So maybe the mantra "Bush lied about WMD" is wrong, no? Here's the book:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1591454042/qid=1138293088/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-5263914-9448112?n=507846&s=books&v=glance

http://www.nysun.com/article/26514

All of you tinfoil hatters better hunt down a few smear articles about General Sada! After all, Saddam's reputation is at risk. Maybe you need to call Ramsay Clark for Saddam's refutation of the book? Why hasn't Keith had General Sada on for an interview? After all, the WMD issue has haunted Keith for years now.

As for Bush's "mission accomplished" aircraft carrier speech, he was saying "congratulations on taking over the country" to his military, not "hey, the war is over, we won and we can leave Iraq after my speech." I don't expect this fact to penetrate moonbat protective personal barriers, but it needs to be mentioned.

The "Bush was elected out of fear" mantra needs to be shelved. People who voted for Bush weren't scared little rabbits. They were smart enough to see that Jean Francois Kerry was a dangerous appeasement-loving flip-flopper with no personal integrity who threw his medals . . . no his ribbons . . . no his medals over a fence and was "for the war before he was against it." Incidentally, we enjoyed how he recently pushed a filibuster that damaged his party more than it helped. His wife Theresa cried for the poor while using every loophole to avoid taxes (she paid a whopping 12% on her millions in Kerry's election year), and took her nice big private gas-guzzling jet built for one all over the country independently from her "husband" while squawking about the environment and global warming! If Bush voters were scared, they were scared of a KERRY Presidency, not of Bush.

"Oh how dare you call bush a liar!!" You people would make me laugh if it wasn't so disgusting to see you debase yourselves, prostrate on the ground, licking President Moron's jackboot and lovingly asking to be lied to more and kicked in the balls yet again. It's also sad, but funny, to see the invective hurled at little KO and John "Who The F*ck Cares" Kerry.

NEWS FLASH: Olbermann wasn't president when we suffered the worst attack on our soil in 2001; that coward Bush was. He let it happen, he covered up his Saudi pals money trail, he's lied and manipulated you into thinking he's some sort of "strong leader" when in fact he's incompetently screwed up the economy, lost 2 million jobs, caused the nosedive of American respect woldwide, and generally f*cked up everything he's touched.

But it's the democrat's fault... no, no, wait it's the fault of that guy with the little cable show.

You want to call people who tell the truth about Bush "tinfoil hatters", but what do you call someone who supports a regime that's done everything wrong for 5 1/2 years and is turning America into a second-class, second-rate power?

A Bush supporter.

You blather on about how there really were WMD's when your pupeteers have abandoned that lie years ago. It's all about spreading democracy, y'see... oops... as long as those a-rabs don't vote for Hamas! WHOOPSIE! You blather on about how George Bush, a man who's primary adult profession was snorting coke and driving drunk across west Texas, has "restored integrity" to the office.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!

What a f'ing joke! All George Bush's appointment to the presidency did was rob Crawford, Texas of it's village idiot.

You people are laughable.

Where's Farrakhan's mothership when you need it?

"HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

"You people are laughable."

(Twilight Zone theme music in background...)

Bush had the mother of a fallen war hero illegally arrested. Nazis treated their families better.

"Trixie" wrote:

"what do you call someone who supports a regime that's done everything wrong for 5 1/2 years and is turning America into a second-class, second-rate power?"

I though you libs feared Bush was a cowboy who flexed too much muscle and took advantage of all the poor underpriveleged countries out there while ignoring our pals in socialist paradises like Germany and France! Now we are a "second-rate" power? Last time I checked, we were the most prosperous country in the world with the most vibrant economy and a kick ass #1 military. I guess if Jimmy Carter were still Prez we'd be a first rate power in your "down is up" world Trixie? By the way, how is your hubby Ed Norton Trixie?

Michael Moore would love your rant by the way. If you hate the Saudis so much, how about letting Bush drill in the Arctic, and build some refineries and a few nuke plants? You up for that?

Bush had the mother of a fallen war hero illegally arrested. Nazis treated their families better.

saying it twice doesn't make it true. How exactly does Bush have jurisdiction over the Capitol Hill police? Point to the documentation. Do you have evidence that he ordered her arrested? Support what you say. Unless you can't, because it's another fantasy. No doubt if it's wacko enough, Olby will use it.

How gullible do you have to be? They had the entire "liberal media" lie about the arrest to justify it. Pull your head out.

The capitol police had her arrested along with the (R) wife, you pin-headed idiot. And, yes, I called a name, so spare me the childish whining.
They also issued a fairly abject apology as a result. So what's she going to do? Well, sue of course. What else would a sweet, innocent, non publicity-seeking individual do in a similar situation?

Two people were ejected for t-shirts. One was Sheehan, the other a person with a "support the troops" shirt. The wacky lefties don't like to mention that too much. After all, Bush was behind all this as he scanned the crowd with a binoculars for hot chicks and people to persecute. Poor center-of-the-universe Sheehan! Can't she catch a break?

Obi, Love the "Nazi" reference! Always a crowd favorite! You might want to mix it up with a few "racist" and "sexist" labels to keep yourself in practice.

Explain how the entire media uniformly presented the same absurd cover-story to justify the arrest of the mother of a fallen war hero.

THAT'S your PROOF that Bush ordered it?!? I suppose you'll go on to claim Bush ordered the 9/11 attacks because, after all, the entire media reported on them!

Word to the wise, here...

Anyone paranoid enough to comment,

"They had the entire "liberal media" lie about the arrest to justify it"

is either one or two things:

1) Out of touch with reality and therefore unreasonable.

2) Having you on.

Calm down. First, the other woman was not arrested like Sheehan was. Second, you evaded the question. What are you scared of?

Out of touch with reality? Why did the entire media report the same totally absurd cover story? I'm waiting for an explanation, Einstein.

Lets see because I decided to vote for Bush. The compassionate, loving , thoughtful, perfect, know it all libs have called me a stupid,delusinal,nitwit, a--hole, douchebag, dumbfuck, who voted along with fifty million other folks who the D.N.C. were not able to get to with cigarettes and fortys. By the way a question for you moveon morons that have lost you're way. For breakfast do you eat Brillo and wash it down with Comet??? How do get into this brilliant mood? Tell me, how does it feel that everyday you wake up IT'S GONA SUCK FOR YOU, ALL FN' DAY!!! How many people when they see you, RUN LIKE HELL!?!?

One last thing: We Won, You Lost!! HO!HO!HO!

TIME FOR YOU'RE KOOL-AID!!!

Uncle Olby's Wonderful World of spin will be on soon. Uncle Olby's guest tonight will be professional wife beater marc schiavo. Oh boy!!

I don't know who you are accusing of evading the question, but I asked two of them that you, Olbi-Wan, have not just evaded, but totally ignored. Do you want to try them again? 1. Where does the President have authority over the Capitol Hill police? and 2. What is your proof that Bush ordered anything involving the arrest?

Please, try to focus, like a laser beam. 1. and 2.

If a cover story was planted in the media regarding an arrest, then whoever controls the media had a hand in an arrest. Comprende? Soooooooo, xplain how the entire media uniformly presented the same absurd cover-story to justify the arrest of the mother of a fallen war hero.

As for shesham. Her husband and her whole family have deserted her over this. Are they scumbags too? Did George Bush send Karl Rove over to make a deal with her family?

hey dopey-wan my guess is moveon? media matters? you're buddies at the a.p.?

Shall we try again, Obi? 1. and 2. Just cite the evidence for each, not Olbermannian conspiracy theories.

If you don't have any evidence for what you say, then be a man (or woman, as the case may be) and just admit you made it up. That would at least put you one rung above Olby.

Cowards, explain how the entire media uniformly presented the same absurd cover-story to justify the arrest of the mother of a fallen war hero.

Drudge? depends right?

only a few more minutes till professional wife-beater Michel Schiavo.

Sheesh, Olbi-Wan, I gave you three chances to back up what you say, and you can't do it. Not wasting my time with someone who just makes up his own "facts". I have to do that already five nights a week with Olby.

Cowards, explain how the entire media uniformly presented the same absurd cover-story to justify the arrest of the mother of a fallen war hero.

hey dopey..I just gave you a few, which one gave you, the mind numb robot marching orders for the day?

Cowards, explain how the entire media uniformly presented the same absurd cover-story to justify the arrest of the mother of a fallen war hero.

Isn't it funny, how dopey starts to repeat himself....oh thats right robots do that.

There is nothing sadder and more pathetic than your denial. Explain how the entire media uniformly presented the same absurd cover-story to justify the arrest of the mother of a fallen war hero.

Uncle Olby, Uncle Olby, Uncle Olby!!!!

There is nothing sadder and more pathetic than your denial. Explain how the entire media uniformly presented the same absurd cover-story to justify the arrest of the mother of a fallen war hero.

"Last time I checked, we were the most prosperous country in the world with the most vibrant economy and a kick ass #1 military"

Yep, and last time I check, the above ignorant, wrong, and uninformed drivel is exactly why Moron's handlers know they can never underestimate the stupidity of republican voters.

While Ford lays off another 30K workers, while the rich get richer and the average American works longer hours for less pay, nimrods like you can't help but bleat the same tune your masters at GOP headquarters told you.

By no measure, other than the number of billionaires, are we "the most prosperous country in the world". The gap between the richest and poorest is at it's largest in history. The US economy is the largest in the world, by far, but very little of the $11 trillion has anything to do with you or me... or anyone else other than a few hundred very wealthy vampires. 2% of the population in this country control 84% of the capital wealth -- a number that has skyrocket since Bush lowered the taxes for the very rich. The middle class and working class (chock full of dummies like you) continue to vote themselves into bleak future, while the WorldBank figures for 2005 show clearly that the average American has less purchasing power (GNI) than the average citizen in places like Denmark, Bermuda, Norway, and yes my dumbass republican friend, even those garlic-snarfing Frenchies. The average American (if he is lucky enough not to have had his job outsourced by Bush's buddies) has less real purchasing power than the majority of EU citizens by almost 30%.

Even that liberal organization CIA notes in their "factbook" about the US economy that: "Since 1975, practically all the gains in household income have gone to the top 20% of households. The war in March/April 2003 between a US-led coalition and Iraq, and the subsequent occupation of Iraq, required major shifts in national resources to the military. The economy suffered from a sharp increase in energy prices in mid-2005, and long-term problems include inadequate investment in economic infrastructure, rapidly rising medical and pension costs of an aging population, sizable trade and budget deficits, and stagnation of family income in the lower economic groups."

Even without talking numbers, you have to be intentionally stupid to suggest that the working class or middle class is better off now than it was 35 years ago when I was a lass. Two incomes, massive debt, fear of sickness, worry about paying for the kids college, and disaster is just a missed paycheck or pink slip away.

Who do you think you're foolin'? You may prefer to live in a dream world where your hero, that draft-dodging, coke-sniffing, illiterate bozo-in-chief keeps you safe from gay marriages (WHEW!) while letting his rich frat buddies pick your pocket, but those of us that aren't simpletons beg to differ.

And our "kick ass" military isn't really helping things much since it's costing a BILLION dollars a day to flounce around in Iraq... while President Moron still can't decide exactly why it was we went, why we stay, or why somebody let him be in charge in the first place. Iraq is headed for, at best, a Vietnam style ending with a President Diem figure who'll be assassinated immediately... at worst it could lead to us being embarrassed on a much larger scale than Vietnam.

So good work on picking out two things, the economy and the war, the your hero has provably screwed up. But, to be fair to you, it'd be hard to find a single thing that lazy idiot has ever done right in his life.

its called the template. What happen to JD probibly fell asleep during the planet segment. Ya know dopey why doesn't the media pick up on all this earth shattering garbage of Olby. Whats this denial?? what?? I put out a few starter points. have you missed this what. Are you stuck? What? Which one was the flavor of the day with you're boys in the newsroom. New york times what? You tell me .

Hey dopey bitch check my voting card I'm independent. dopey idiots like you love to broad brush anybody that doesn't agree with you. Tell me this is Robert Byrd letting women into the K.K.K. these days?

ya know i hear this all the time from you jackasses, Denmark, Norway, France So if it's the best in the world why are you here? I mean really you've got to be really stupid to stay and get you're panties in a bunch, be in a constant p.m.s. stage twenty four hours a day. When you could leave here and go live in Liberal Heaven!! I mean if this place sucks soo bad why stay here. I hated Jersey, So I moved. whats up with you waiting for some goverment program????

and one last thing. If Bush is sooo stupid sssooooooo inept. How come no it all's like you haven't been able to trip him up??? Moron.

Hey Trixie,

Your crazy rants are entertaining. However, I would suggest that if you want to really know what it is like in swell countries like France, you should try to LIVE THERE for a while, as many of us have. The US is the envy of these countries. I know you think France is swell, so maybe you should visit the suburbs like Clichy Sous Bois to get a feel for the "purchasing power" of those people. See how upwardly mobile they are as well. After they burn your car, you can get a feel for the public transportation system.

Ford is a result of SOCIALIST CORPORATE POLICY driven by UNIONS. When you scream about Ford and Bush, you display your ignorance. Ford has been overpaying its workers for decades. People don't buy as many of their cars as they used to and pensions still need to be paid. How is that Bushes fault? Did Dick Cheney have connections to Ford? Nope! He worked for a SUCCESSFUL company. Viva Halliburton! Long live Wal-Mart. So long GM and Ford! Hurray for Toyota!

Ford's problems are due to unions? How about turning off the TV and reading some history of the auto industry? If you did, you would learn Ford's problems are a result of nobody buying the mismarketed cars they put. This started with destroying cars like the Thunderbird and ended with their insistence on achieving big profit marging with selling SUVs. Please, pick up a book or talk to people in the industry before you speak.

hey ditz

do those happen to be union officials!

I worked fourteen years in a union shop. It closed because of the union.

May all union officials DIE AND ROT IN HELL!!!!

You're gona tell me John Sweeny is looking out for the regular guy. YOU SIR ARE SMOKIN' CRACK!!!

Go hang out with those idiots at Wal-Mart Watch.

You just exposed you're self as the useful idiot of the left.

what are you babbling about? i recommend extended time away from the television. perhaps try a book or a fruit cup.

Mega Dopey Wan wrote:

"Ford's problems are a result of nobody buying the mismarketed cars they put."

Okey Dokey! So Ford can sell 2.9 million vehicles in 2005 for a 17.4 percent market share and still lose money! That must NOT be because expenses are too high! That CAN'T be because pensions are too generous! It must be that selling cars isn't profitable, or they need a bigger market share, or their executives make too much, or the right wing ideologues have poisoned the water by free marketing wal-mart style fiscal hijinx in Ford's back yard while Michael Moore's Great GrandPappy is asked to take a pension cut after 25 years of grueling forced labor! You are such a complete idiot Dopey! I shouldn't bother with you at all.

Anon,

Actually, I think Obi-Wan/Laura/whatever other identity he's using... is a bit right on this one. Well, you're both right actually.

Ford has put so much into SUVs and now everyone wants the sort of gas efficient cars that the Japanese do so well.

You people are SO funny! I point out several documented facts about how the country is going to heck and real earnings are shinking and you say "move to France!"

As long as simpletons and morons like you bunch are willing to vote against your interest and the interests of America, and buy the *lies* the republican slime sell, the ultra rich need not worry a second.

Ford and GM's main problem is they aren't selling cars. It's pretty simple: the same sort of greedy and ignorant Americans that vote for idiots like Bush (and for that matter, Kerry too) can't see the long term effects of saving a quick buck by buying a Toyota instead of supporting American workers and American products. Then when the economy slumps and the chain reaction reaches your door you act like you had no idea that pissing on American workers and American products would be a problem. I have never owned, nor will I ever own a vehicle built by a foreign company or built outside of the USA. After 9/11 it made me sick to my stomach to see all the fair weather patriots slapping flags on their foreign cars. What a disgrace. But the same simple and selfish mindset that prevails in politics prevails in your personal choices: "ME FIRST and screw everyone else!" It's the real legacy of the baby boomer generation, and Dubya is the poster child for it, greed, selfishness, and navel-gazing self-importance. As long as they don't have to work in a auto factory themselves, who cares how many people will be thrown out of work... just lock them up in jail, for gosh sakes! Keep them away from my Honda!

So to answer your question, I don't plan to move to France because I love this country. I love it enough to support the economy with the simple act of buying American made products.

How about you, you greedy hypocrites?

trixe

yo idiot look what i said. I asked you the question that if you thought those places are you're utopia why are you here? I also said that I grew up and lived in New Jersey and I hated it mostly because of that I had to put up with crappy unions, self-serving jackass libs, high taxes. I could run throught it all. New Jersey a state where the Democrates think the people are so stupid they won't even let them pump there own gas! So did I sit and whine and bitch like you NO! I moved! But oh, you get you're panties in bunch. I moved because I wanted to be happy. You bitch because you're miserable, but you want to stay and make everybody else miserable. You must be one fun date!!!!!

Dear Dopey

I read more in one week than you in one year. As for a fruitcup I'll let that one slide. By the way time for you to go flip the burgers.

A lot of foreign car makers have the cars built domestically by American workers. So sometimes buying a foreign car helps other Americans keep their jobs. What about you TV, CD player,clothes etc.... People who can't think or are extremely partisan- oversimplify, paint things in black and white,and rant and rave(Trixie)

Everybody

At this point I would like to send an apology to Dopey Wan. I belive I have erred and would like to set the record straight. It takes me about two months to read what it takes you to read in a year sir. I forgot you read that sign in the bathroom everyday "employees must wash hands." You do wash you're hands don't you boy? Or do you need a goverment program to show you how?

I'll concide this. I don't buy Ford cars because they are crap. I brought a toyota in 94' it sits out in back of the farm I use it twenty times a year. It's true a toyota will rust out before the engine gos, 435,000. Make a product I want to buy and I'll be there. At this point it should be a partnership between the union, management, and the workers if they are serious about this. It can be done. I also have a 71' caddie convertable I restored but, it was built well. Go to any car auction what do you see. Foreign cars like change on you're counter. Who's buying them families for a second car and then they drive home in their newer foreign car.

Trixie, Dopey,

Trixie first -- your "facts" are a laundry list of abstract terms like "purchasing power" which are inventions by economists to obscure basic facts. France is an economic mess, as is Germany. the economies are stagnant, job creation is minimal, birth rate is in the toilet, and minority unrest in France is high because it is impossible for minorities to get a job in the shit economy. I have lived there and suggested you try it for a while before spouting off about how much you don't know.

As for Ford and GM, this has been a long term problem as the socialist unions and poor management have conspired to suck the blood from the company. As someone else mentioned, Toyota has American plants that hire American workers to make Toyotas and they are doing quite well. In addition, as I mentioned earlier, Ford still has a large market share. The reason they are dying is overhead, which they have allowed to grow uncontrolled. Believe whatever you want -- that it is all someone elses fault, not the company's and workers/unions fault -- what do I care. Believe the steel industry was done in by capitalism and that voter fraud stole the last two Presidential elections. Who cares anyway?

Hey Trixie, here's a little piece on "purchasing power":

Difficulties with PPP comparisons in welfare economics

While using PPP exchange rates for income comparison is an improvement over using nominal (currency) exchange rates, it is still imperfect, and comparisons using the PPP method can still be misleading. Comparing standards of living using the PPP method implicitly assumes that the real value placed on goods is the same in different countries. In reality, what is considered a luxury in one culture could be considered a necessity in another. The PPP method does not account for this. (This is not primarily a flaw in the exchange rate methodology, as cultural and interpersonal differences in utility functions are a more fundamental microeconomic problem.)

A PPP exchange rate varies depending on the choice of goods used for the index (CPI). Hence, it is possible to deliberately or accidentally bias a PPP exchange rate by the choice of a bundle. Indeed, it may be hard to construct equivalent representative bundles for the consumption habits of very different societies. PPP could also have difficulty accounting for differences in quality between goods in one country and equivalent goods in another, see: consumer price index.

Even if a good PPP is used, GDP per capita is still a measure of the economic output of the whole economy, not a direct measure of the mean or median person's quality of life. Other factors such as the standards of homes and schools, access to public services, the extent of pollution, and strength of consumer protection laws are hard to quantify and generally not fully reflected in the GDP. Even a PPP-adjusted measure of GDP per capita must be used with caution, for all the usual reasons that the GDP figure itself is limited (for instance, its inability to capture the surplus between subjective value and payment price).

For example, in 2002, the nominal GDP per capita in Japan was about US$40,000, while the equivalent PPP into a US goods basket was estimated at $27,000. In the US, GDP per capita was about $36,400 (nominal and real if based on 2002 dollars). This means that the average US citizen could enjoy slightly more consumption than the average Japanese (vastly more if private saving is removed from consumption income). However, it does not necessarily follow, that this implies a "higher standard of living" in the sense of "enjoying life" more; the US has higher crime rates and less social cohesion than Japan, while Japan has much less physical space per person and arguably less individual freedom. Ultimately, the quality of life will depend on subjective judgement and individual preferences.

Per capita income also does not take into account inequalities in wealth distribution.

I think the biggest fallacy that Trixie foists upon the site is the notion that everyone here is a conservative and voted for George Bush. There are some libertarians among us and at least one Harry Browne voter.

Then there's incredible psychic powers these people display when judging that all the regulars at Olbermann Watch are FNC watchers and Iraq War supporters. You don't like Olbermann, you have to a member of the Bill O'Reilly fan club... and be for the whole bill of goods.

It's not discussion, it's wild name calling....not that people can't earn being called a name or two...but this is name-calling without any rhyme or reason behind it. We critique Olbermann, she likes Olbermann, she found a link here somewhere, lives to vent her spleen, and there you have it...

Now we're supposed to defend...god know what... anything and nothing, I suppose, I just see rage and hatred here for its own sake.... but I guess we've suposed to defend ourselves and evidently George Bush based upon her insults, allusions to Nazis and her own interpretions of matters that are more complex and gradual than Bush's term in office and off our focus here at Olbermann Watch.

Well, forget it, sweetheart. Rail at the moon. I'm talking Olby here and political matters in relation to how he has covered them. Go over to the freeper site and see if can't satisfy the need to stomp someone there.

While you're at it, drop Olbermann a line and let him see how his fan base looks. THAT may be wake-up-call enough for even him.

Oh yes, I'm crazy, It's all me... and yet you delusional idiots still fail to answer one of my arguments with anything other than "ooo, what's with the name calling!". I'm calling you stupid because you support a regime that has demostrably screwed up everything it touches. Prove me wrong.

Did you not READ the above post. This site is to highlight KO's BS. This doesn't automatically mean that those who support this site support Bush. Having to be redudant or having repeat what has already been said is irritating.Oh, I did't no Keith was spelled T,R,I,X,I,E.

Oh yes: "please stop mentioning the facts, we don't want to hear the facts, then we'll have to admit we're brainless bovine bushies".

Typical response. Someone *dares* point out that the emperor is stark naked and you all react with threats, abuse, and denials... "oh, we don't even support Bush!".

B.S.

Rather than hold the republicans responsible for the utter mess they've made of this country for the last 5 years it's all KO's fault... with that massive 300K audience... if KO would just stop saying things that hwurt your wittle fweelings .

You big babies.

Trixie you nutty moonbat

You haven't addressed any of the points I've made. All you do is regurgitate talking points from Soros Inc.

If you can't see that the United States is the place to be, you are truly deranged. France distributed AIDS tainted blood rather than pay for the American AIDS test, sending thousands to their deaths. They allow their elderly to die of heat stroke rather than miss their Summer vacations. They oppress their minorities by marginalizing them. They sold arms to Iraq, nuclear materials to Iran, they were knee deep in oil for food. These European countries are far more corrupt than our country, far less moral, and the standard of living sucks compared to ours. Gas is exorbitantly expensive, showers are taboo and the people stink like pigs. Germany is a foul mixture of radical leftism and vestiges of the old pattern of thought (National Socialism dies hard).

In England, health care is a joke. A man suffering from a progressively debilitating disease had to sue to be allowed to have a feeding tube placed to keep him alive. The elderly are treated like dead weight. Alzheimers medications are deemed "too expensive" to provide. Just wonderful! Well, they should take comfort in their fictional "purchasing power" as they lose their minds. Currently, British Muslims are carrying signs saying "Europe is a cancer, Islam is the answer," and "Behead those who slander Islam" (see for yourself at Yahoo images). French Muslims are hostile, and recently spread fear throughout Paris as they rioted for a few weeks and burned thousands of cars.

Trixie, you keep up your fight for a socialist utopia. I hope you get socialized healthcare, socialized businesses, Hillary Clinton in office and Al Gore in charge of energy production. You were too stupid to learn from the Carter years, so you may as well relive them.

trixie, the problem w/regulars here is that the source of a message is more important to them than the content. therefore, here's the same message as trixie but spoken by a former nixon associate and star of ferris bueller's day off in his column today. how relevant!

Living Hand to Mouth -- and Barely Getting By
http://finance.yahoo.com/columnist/article/yourlife/2449

Obi Wan,

You are so stupid that you cite an article which has no relation to the discussion here. Ben Stein is merely stating the obvious -- that Americans are too stupid to save for the future. Instead they rely on the Nanny state to take care of them like good little socialists. They want their lib democrat FDR style entitlements like Medicare and Social Security to coddle them independent of their irresponsible behavior. The problem is the Government is run like all Governments everywhere -- inefficiently. Social Security and Medicare are unstable, but the lazy people know they don't have to worry, because the Nanny state will come through in the end, saving entitlements by raising taxes on everyone to support irresponsible old geezers who never bothered to save a penny.

Exactly how do you think the article was helping liberal democrats? Man you are a dope. From now on, you and Trixie get a free pass. I hate beating up on the mentally inadequate.

Cecelia, at least in this instance, defines the term 'pearls before swine'. Bet she'd enjoy finding an intelligent lib to agree/disagree with.

You need help. Maybe time to up your meds.

Dopey

Time to go flip the burgers