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Friday's Countdown emanated from Tampa again, with the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann more heavily made up than ever:

To get the spin started at whirlwind speed, KO twice referred to John Dean as an "expert" witness. Krazy Keith is the only alleged "journalist" would consider a disbarred lawyer to be a legal expert! He showed some of Dean's testimony before the committee looking into a censure motion, but no clips of any of the other witnesses--some of whom really are legal experts. If you don't know why, then you don't know KO. Olby served up his usual leading questions:
And when does startling translate into public reaction or into Congressional reaction. I guess we, we've come full circle in the questioning here, this goes back to your appearance today, when does somebody sit up and take notice and say, it's not about Republicans and Democrats, it's about what the Constitution says the President's supposed to do, not do, and what the Constitution says the Senate and the House are supposed to do, and not do?
Oddly, there was quite a bit of testimony today about what the Constitution says about the President's powers, but Keith didn't show any of it! And of course, of all the witnesses, the only one who gets the seat of honor at The Hour of Spin is the ex-con. Needless to say, Krazy Keith didn't bother to mention that only two Democrats even bothered to attend the hearing!
We looked back into the OlbyWatch archives to analyze KO's coverage of the NSA issue. Leaving out the interviews with reporters and politicians (none of whom supported the program), first we'll list all the Countdown interviews with "experts" who were critical of the NSA program or thought it to be illegal:
  
  
Do you want to see that second list again? OK, here it is:
[sound of crickets]
Ahem. OK, moving right along... KO also chatted with his favorite felon about aluminum tubes and the Big News that some people in the intelligence community "dissented" from the official position that they had nuclear uses. Of course, Olby spun it as Bush knowing that the tubes were not nuclear, rather than as what it was: a conflict of opinion. Then he followed up with a regurgitated NBC report on the released hostage. Krazy Keith intro'd the segment thusly:
Tonight some conspiracy theorists are criticizing Jill Carroll, suggesting in a political context that she's suffering from Stockholm Syndrome...
He went on to say the report casts her demeanor in a different light, but the NBC report certainly did not reject the possibility that Stockholm was involved. Did KO even watch this before introducing it? And why does he think it would be a "criticism" if someone fell prey to a known aftereffect of a psychological trauma? No matter, from there it was on to steroids again, followed by another fine, fine edition of "oddball".
The #3 slot was billed as the third anniversary of Countdown, but it was actually Olbermann O'Reilly Attack #76. Olby bragged that his ratings were up (not mentioning the Olympics lead-in for that ratings period, or that even artificially inflated he still loses to Mr Bill by as much as 9 to 1). Then Krazy Keith really went bananas: he claimed he "never said anything factually incorrect about the man". There he goes again, with another little white lie...or given his freaky complexion, perhaps it's an orange lie. For those unfamiliar with Krazy Keith's record of "factually incorrect" statements about O'Reilly, here are just two incontrovertible examples. KO ran yet again his bash-O'Reilly montage, updated with New Footage!, to put a cherry on The Liar's Olbsession sundae.
Celebrities took over the entire #2 story slot, and the #1 story was the oddball month in rewind. In the Media Matters Minute, after viewing the clips that site posted from yesterday's Countdown, Krazy Keith scanned their list of conservatives and Republicans and chose Neil Boortz as "worst person", for criticizing Cynthia McKinney's hairdo. Video to appear at Media Matters on Monday.
And that's The Hour of Spin for this, the 44th day of the Keith Olbermann CoverUp.
Sorry, forgot to open comments. Open now, so have at it.
Olbermann's increased audienced is due to us watching it as comedy!
Oh, to be a writer for Countdown.....
Which of these stories will you be talking about tomorrow?
The science of spin. Researchers find that nine out of 10 spinners prefer Countdown to any other "news" show. The 10th spinner? Why, he's THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!
A new pill allows anchor to distort for days at a time without vomiting.
Puppet-palooza. We've got puppets.
Countdown investigates: Can fact checking be harmful to your health?
Good evening.
The report implied that which was obvious except to those that it was not obvious. It was clear except for the part which was not. What is known is that the extent of the knowledge has not been acknowledged yet.
Coming up, Michael Musto will join us to discuss the effects of my Man-Tan on baseball, Karl Rove, and Katie Holmes' baby.
Isn't Countdown the ONLY evening cable news show that presents only one side of every story? Scarborough and Carlson always have debates with the left or right. So does O'Reilly, Hannity and Colmes, John Gibson, Hardball, etc., etc., etc.
Is there another show like Countdown? I watch 'em all, and have never seen such a one sided show. It is hard to believe that MSNBC would allow this.
I've always insisted that Countdown is the most biased hour of news on any cable channel. I challenge anyone to point to any program on Fox that has treated the NSA issue in as slanted, biased, and one-sided a manner as The Hour of Spin has.
I watch 'em all, and have never seen such a one sided show.
Not only are the guests discussing an issue one-sided, the questioning of the guest(s) on that issue is one-sided.
It's an echo chamber.
And Olbermann will still insist, I'm sure, that he's equally critical to both sides because two years ago he criticized Kerry for calling for "regime change" in Washington.
Great, once every two years. Quite a standard of fairness.
SMG
It's an echo chamber
Or should I have said: tanning booth?
How many folks can one fit into those things anyway?
SMG
When Republicans are in control you're going to see more bad news about Republicans.
I know it's a little late, but here's a couple of limericks in honor of St. Patrick, the man who chased the snakes out of Ireland and into that "tool shed" known as MSNBC headquarters.
There once was a man named Olbermann
Who fancied himself as a Doberman.
He had his own show
Oh! The hot air he'd blow
Unwatchable? Yes, for a Soberman
There once was a man named Keith
Who when angry would show his teeth.
Bill O'Reilly he hated,
And taunted and baited.
A sewer he lived underneath.
And may the Lord forgive me. This is not meant to mock his lovely mother, who I hear is a stand up gal. I'm going to pray this little prayer as I fall assleep tonight.
Hail Keith, full of shit, the left is with thee. Bloated art thou among liberals and bloated is the material of thy program, Gee Wiz! Holy Keith, brother of Franken, stay for us conservatives, now and at the hour of our jest. Amen
" Good night and Good Luck." Edward R. Murrow 1950's
" Good night and Good luck." Keith Olbermann 2006
Delusions of grandeur? Perhaps just a speck of a tad of a smidgin of a bit. But now that I think of it, Murrow was a character asassin also. Only his aim was better.
Did KO even watch this before introducing it? And why does he think it would be a "criticism" if someone fell prey to a known aftereffect of a psychological trauma?
It is when the wingnuts didn't even wait 12 hours to begin questioning her mental state and whether she was complicit in the act. Orrin Judd thinks she was a "willing participant", Jonah Goldberg thinks she's lost her "moral center", the folks over at Little Green Footballs thinks the whole thing was faked to undermine the war effort.
And all these folks (plus John Hinderaker at Powerline and John Podhoretz at National Review) are making that decision based upon videotape. What is it with the far right and making medical diagnoses off of videos?
Please list the "characters" Murrow assasinated.Which people were you "thinking of" Patrick. You have been watching too much of cable news in general and moronic Olberman in particular if you buy into the comparison
" Good night and Good Luck." Edward R. Murrow 1950's
" Good night and Good luck." Keith Olbermann 2006"
...and Krazy Keith's sign off "keep your knees loose" is even more ridiculous than Dan Rather's infamous "courage".
Gee, I wonder who I could possibly be talking about getting their character assasinated by the patron saint of left-wing journalists, Edward R. Murrow?
It must be quite a predicament for Keith. Everyone is on to his obsession with O'Reilly and the fact he never has any opposing views on his show ( if you don't count KK stating their cases for them. And a mighty fine job he does, too.) I think he wants a way out but one that will save face. His creepy, spray on, man tan face.
A while back, Trekkie and Olbermann poo-poo'ed e-mails sent by the executive producer of the weekend edition of "Good Morning America," who was caught saying George Bush "made him puke." OlberTrek said the e-mails were nothing big. Well, perhaps the e-mails about Bush got a free pass by the lib media, but not the ones about Sir Madeleine Halfbright!
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/31/AR2006033101725_pf.html
ABC Suspends Producer Over Bush-Bashing E-Mail
By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, April 1, 2006; C01
ABC News suspended the executive producer of the weekend edition of "Good Morning America" yesterday over a pair of leaked e-mails in which he used inflammatory language to slam President Bush and Madeleine Albright.
I love the misleading title, by the way. They want to pretend the Bush e-mail was the problem when the guy wasn't suspended until he attacked Mr. Halfbright! Oh those tricky liberals -- insult the enemy but DON'T INSULT A COMRADE!
Well trekkster, do you still side with Olby and call all this a "Kerfuffle?" I guess GMA has to hunt for another leftist to grab the CBS hammer and sickle for GMA. By the way, will he make WPITW? It ius such a tough call, because he insulted Bush (good for Olby) and Halfbright (bad for Olby)! Oh, how to spin how to spin?
Well trekkster, do you still side with Olby and call all this a "Kerfuffle?"
Yes. ABC made what they felt was the right decision, but I think they just made it worse because now it goes back into the news cycle for three days.
ABC made a poor judgment call here.
Krazy Keith led me down the garden path yet again. He of orange tint and too dark eyebrows had reported on the leak of emails from ABC producer John Green. KK's assertion was the leaks came from the White House. Bush was out to malign the press, and Krazy-eyed Keith, with information only a journalist of his stature is privy to, set the record straight.
Imagine my shock today after reading Howard Kurtz column in the Washington Post.
...."ABC News suspended the executive producer of the weekend edition of "Good Morning America" yesterday over a pair of leaked e-mails in which he used inflammatory language to slam President Bush and Madeleine Albright. It is widely believed at ABC News that the e-mails were leaked by a former employee who has a vendetta against Green."...
Will the deplorable one correct himself at the first opportunity? Will he admit his 'news' is politically driven? Will he wear a greasepaint moustache and interview his mouth tumor he keeps in a jar?
ABC made a poor judgment call here.
Poor call in terms of public relations or poor call in terms of the substance/rationale of the suspension?
After all, this dummy producer wrote an e-mail to his co-workers arguing that Albright shouldn't be on a show because she had "Jew shame."
"Jew shame"?
So is this clown arguing for a religious test that guests have to meet before they can appear on ABC's news shows (even though, AFAIK, Albright isn't a practicing Jew)?
If Albright had a Buddhist past that would have been okay? Or would he have claimed that she had "Buddhist shame"?
Or what? Bizarre wording.
I don't want to question a person's entire character over one e-mail; but this is a pretty troubling comment on his part, no?
SMG
OLBERMANN FAN CLUB OFFICIAL STATEMENT RE: GOOD MORNING AMERICA EMAILS
We at the Olbermann fan club urge all of you to boycott Good Morning America weekend edition. The courageous Mr. Green duly noted his dislike of Mr. Bush and was persecuted for it.
As for the bogus email about Ms. Allbright, we believe this was planted by the White House. In addition, the claim that a "disgruntled employee" planted the emails is pure conjecture, and far less likely than the obvious -- that the White House used the domestic NSA spy program to pilfer emails from journalists to destroy their lives.
Wake up America, before it is too late!
Could it be that Krazy Keith is hated by the make-up staff at Meltdown? How could they not know they were turning him carrot orange? Don't the camera people and make-up people know how stupid he looks?
I bet they all snicker behind his tangerine face and try to figure out new ways to sabotage him. Now that he has gone so far, he can not beat a hasty retreat. He will have to slowly back off the man-tan or else maintain his new "sunny-side-up" look for the duration. Maybe a spy could get us details on his make-up process.
As for the "peace activists" who keep getting kidnapped and threatened in Iraq, only the logically-impaired consider them more than dupes. This lady (Carroll) was held captive and threatened with beheading. We all have seen her on-camera, distraught and begging for her life. Now she says, "they treated me well." Sounds like it to me!
After the other lefty Christ wanna-be's were freed, their cohorts called our troops "occupiers." These people are all Sean Penn clones. The only difference is they have the guts to put their lives on the line.
The infamous and deplorable Congressman Murtha making unproven, Moveon.org like comments about the Commander in Chief while we have troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, while terrorists have access to American Media as easily as we do, makes me want to vomit. It serves only to boost the morale of the terrorists ( in liberaleze, militants/insurgents/freedom fighters) and lower the morale of our troops. And how do you think Murtha is thought of by the Marine Corps' rank and file? Or at least the majority of it? When Congressman Murtha actually says something worthwhile and not something from the George Soros bulletin board, I'll rethink my position. As for the wing-nut comment, a well struck blow indeed. For those who aren't familiar with it, that's liberaleze for " You are now completely discredited from this moment forward." Wing-nut is right up there with homophobia, McCarthyism, and jingoistic flag waving: meaningless words meant to stifle legitimate questioning of the Left's sacred cows. Oh, and I could care less about you voiceing your opinions. But as for your vote last time around, I cancelled it out.
My last post was meant to be on the Roid angle posting. I'm sure Jean-Luc Picard will find his way over here.
In celebrating Meltdown's pending cancellation...
There once was crazy man Keith
For him, there was no beneath
He'd sunken so low
They cancelled his show
On Meltdown there now hangs a wreath
@ JD
"I've always insisted that Countdown is the most biased hour of news on any cable channel."
Agree, and I am more than a little puzzled and flabbergasted that the journalistic community hasn't pulled NBC aside and discussed with them the blur that Countdown is putting between news and commentary.
If Countdown wants to be an op-ed showcase for whomever, then let it be. But make it clear that it is. Rush Limbaugh at least has the honesty to make sure everyone knows that what he is doing is just his shtick.
Olbermann and his guests... What more needs to be said! Gah!
One other thought: There is hardly any point in trying to contradict Countdown's presentations. They are incredibly manipulated, and I think that anyone who delved into the reported items can see that they without a whole lot of effort.
On the other hand, there is every reason to point out the gaps in Countdown's reportage. Simply because somebody might possibly believe it (No, that can't be true...) and second because the spin blurs any real discussion or commentary on important issues.
So...keep up the good work.
Could it be that Krazy Keith is hated by the make-up staff at Meltdown? How could they not know they were turning him carrot orange? Don't the camera people and make-up people know how stupid he looks?
KfK, if you were actually watching the show at all this week, you would have been aware of the fact that he was not broadcasting from MSNBC studios in Secaucus, but rather from a local station in Tampa, FL.
...and maybe a third reason.
Countdown is uber-typical of leftwing thinking, as it presents itself today. It's almost actually a showcase for liberal thought processes.
So, again, tally ho!
Salome took objection to my claims that the Meltdown crew was purposely turning Keith's skin apricot and wrote:
"[Olbermann] was not broadcasting from MSNBC studios in Secaucus, but rather from a local station in Tampa, FL."
So Salome, your point is the make-up people and crew in Tampa hate him, and not his Secaucus staff?
Wouldn't Keith take his staff with him on the road, or is his budget so low that he can't afford it? I mean, every B-level or above celeb seems to have a crew in tow (although Keith is not really a celebrity). Perhaps the $99 air fare was too much for his people, or he couldn't afford to put them up in a hotel? More likely his make-up artist and crew work six or seven other shows a day to make ends meet. I mean, Keith generates about $100,000 a year in ad revenue, and his salary must be 60% of that, which leaves a measely 40 G's for his crew.
By the way, Salome, I did watch the show for a few minutes, and was aware he was in Tampa.
Wing-nut is right up there with homophobia, McCarthyism, and jingoistic flag waving: meaningless words meant to stifle legitimate questioning of the Left's sacred cows.
Get off your high horse. This from the side who spent 50 years calling liberals "pinkos", "comsymps", "patsies", "loons", "morons" and recently "traitors". You got a lot of nerve trying to claim the high ground.
Jingoism? Jingoism is Lou Dobbs saying that no flag should be waved in this country but an American flag. Jingoism is saying St. Patrick's Day should be abolished because it's not an "American" holiday. What's next - no more spaghetti because it's not "American" food?
As for homophobia, I just have to look at the Federal Marriage Amendment. For years, the GOP has preached "state's rights" and "strict construction" yet when "moral values" are threatened the state's rights go right out the window. And you call us hypocrites?
More likely his make-up artist and crew work six or seven other shows a day to make ends meet.
They do, but not for the reason you claim. IIRC, Countdown has about a dozen people on staff besides Keith. Almost all of them are researchers or production assistants. His technical people (makeup, hair, camera, etc.) are the same people who work with the dayside MSNBC News crew or the other nighttime shows that MSNBC airs.
It's still a step up for Keith to even have a make-up artist. Remember, when he started at ESPN he and Dan Patrick had to do it themselves.
Remember, when he started at ESPN he and Dan Patrick had to do it themselves.
Too bad that Patrick and Olbermann too different career paths.
I think Patrick is one of the best interviewers in the country. Whether he could have made the move from sports to politics or general news remains unproven. But he's a terrific interviewer.
Never appears to have an agenda. Leaves his personal views (as best as can be done; hey, reporters are humans) outside the newsroom. Humble.
Am I too subtle? Should I continue with my laundry list or cut it short here?
SMG
TREKKIE-My favorite from the left is RACIST.Not only does it make the user,especially if he's white,feel morally superior to the target it is always meant to end the debate.
KK uses it to demean those who are more successful and influential than he could ever hope to be,as he did with Neil Boortz.Trekkie,find yourself another hero,this one has clay feet.
KK uses it to demean those who are more successful and influential than he could ever hope to be,as he did with Neil Boortz.
Let's see, in the course of his program Mr. Boortz called Rep. McKinney a "ghetto slut" and implied that her hairdo was "ghetto trash" and made her look like a "welfare drag queen".
I'm sorry, but when a white man uses that kind of langauge to describe a black woman, the only proper description of the words is to call them "racist".
Isn't a racist someone who believes his race is superior to all others. I don't think I've ever heard Boortz advocate the pureness of the Aryan race, or use Margaret Sanger ( Founder of Planned Parenthood ) like language concerning eugenics " More children from the fit, less from the unfit," or " The German model should be our model." Everything from an ethnic joke to an ignorant yet harmless stereotype is deemed racist. And some ethnic jokes are inappropriate and mean but some are good natured. Perhaps Neil's comments were out of line, but racist? The bar is constantly being lowered to win that particular title. When it's comes to race, let's all take a deep breath and fight real racism, like that of Cynthia McKinney's toward the white Capitol Hill Police Officer, whose only crimes are his occupation and pigmentation.
As for the Dobbsmeister, I believe his frustration came in the wake of that highschool principal in Houston flying the Mexican flag ABOVE the American flag. Dumbass. I don't think St. Patrick's is a holiday.( as one of Hibernian descent, I believe it should be ) At any St. Patrick's Day Parade, American flags are as,if not more, prevalent than Irish ones, not to mention state flags. You might have a hard time finding the Rainbow flag, though. I'm sorry, was that homophobic? Regarding Gay Marriage, there were also state initiatives that put the matter up for a vote in 11 states on Election day 2004. They all went down in flamers... er, flames. And two of the states were blueball states.
Oh, and pinko as well as the apt terms fellow traveler and useful idiots were coined by the boys back in Moscow to designate well meaning but completely duped leftists in this country. Blame it on Uncle Joe. ( FDR's affectionate nickname for Jozef Stalin, who by the way, murdered 15 million Ukranians and Russians before Dackau and Auschwitz had their grand openings ) Now, Bill O'Reilly just called and said your comments aren't pithy and that you have a tendency to bloviate. Get out from under my high horse before he poops on you.
Trekkie wrote:
Countdown has about a dozen people on staff besides Keith. Almost all of them are researchers or production assistants. His technical people (makeup, hair, camera, etc.) are the same people who work with the dayside MSNBC News crew or the other nighttime shows that MSNBC airs. It's still a step up for Keith to even have a make-up artist. Remember, when he started at ESPN he and Dan Patrick had to do it themselves.
How do you know so much about Keith and Meltdown? Are you a stalker? Do you work for the show? Do you know Keith socially or romantically? Inquiring minds need to know.
How do you know so much about Keith and Meltdown? Are you a stalker? Do you work for the show? Do you know Keith socially or romantically?
Google, KfK, is your friend. The article about how many staff was printed in the Cornell Daily Sun (Keith's alma mater), the ESPN references came from Sports Illustrated and "The Big Show" by Keith Olbermann and Dan Patrick and the technical information came via a friend who works as a director for a medium-market televison station's news program.
Patrick Fegan: Don't just assign attributes to Murrow which may or may not be true.Please answer the question. List the "characters" that Murrow assassinated
Orange is the hue of the face
Of the man whose show's in last place
But he gained no appeal
Cause the tan wasn't real
Worse yet was his show--a disgrace
The Hour of Spin's full of chatter
From libs as mad as a hatter
Distortions and lies
Are common as flies
To Olby the truth doesn't matter
Orange is the hue of the face
Of the man whose show's in last place
But he gained no appeal
Cause the tan wasn't real
Worse yet was his show-- a disgrace.
The Hour of Spin's full of chatter
From libs as mad as a hatter
Distortions and lies
Are common as flies
To Olby the truth doesn't matter
Haiku for Olby
"Apricot Man" -- variations on a theme
Unnatural hue
Man tan burns the soul
Watch it spin
Sour apricot
Pit of pure evil
Poison skin
"Chamelion"
Lizard basking
Can you turn orange?
Yes indeed!
"Spin Me"
Countdown hits
Orange kaleidoscopic confusion
Room spins
The tan's not a fake was the claim
From Olby, the spinner of fame
But he appeared on the tube
With a very strange hue
Like a giant orange facial stain
The guest on the show named Dean
Was a felon with a record unclean
He raved and he ranted
With views that were slanted
Such hypocrisy rarely seen
Long live the limerick! And the Haiku,too!
Props to the poster who compared Keith and his cartoonishly dark eyebrows to Groucho Marx a couple of days ago. Speaking of whom,did anybody see " Keith " in the great movie " Duck Soup" last night on TCM? As a broadcast journalist, he's an undeniable tool, but as a slap stick comedian, he's pure, freaking genius. I believe TCM is going to replay the movie tonight so tune in. You'll see Keith in a whole new light. Shorter, funnier, and not nearly as orange.
Eddie Kay, I didn't say characters, but character assasin. And I'll give you a hint. His name, when uttered in the presence of liberals, is considered a profanity. And for Trekkie, I think he was a veteran of the marine corps. But maybe not quite a 37 veteran. Oh, and he belonged to the wrong political party. And I don't think George Clooney thinks to highly of him. I was only going to give you one hint, but it's Sunday and I'm in the giving mood. Did everybody go to church or synagogue or (ugh) mosque ( just kidding. Sort of.) and pray for the impeachment of George W. Bush?
So come on Eddie Kay. I know the name is on the tip of your tongue and you're just dying to say it. Just don't do it in polite company.
Did everybody go to church or synagogue or (ugh) mosque ( just kidding. Sort of.) and pray for the impeachment of George W. Bush?
No, because no matter how bad it gets under Dubya, Cheney is ten times worse...
Patrick Fegan: I guess nuance is not your strong suit so let's cut to the chase.With the proviso that we accept the premise that Murrow did NOT use character assassination in his attack on Joe MCarthy.It is all too easy to blur the distinction between using facts to attack a "charecter" and using character traits instead of facts to attack a person.
In the case of Murrow he did not attack the character traits of MCarthy i.e booze,infidelity,vulgarity, etc to attack.Instead he presented facts that disproved his assertions and the fear he was sowing into the grain of American Life.He constantly invited MCarthy to appear or respond but the coward did neither.
Now it appears you consider him to be a patron saint of liberal media journalists. Please list these people.
I'm not here to get off on a side topic with you since I'm sure most of the dudes on this site think the opposite of the way I do on almost everything EXCEPT our diastase of Olberman. But I cannot let you post things about an individual who was the exact opposite of our disdain without objecting and demanding facts.
Gang, my high school English composition teacher would have LOVED you! Who knew this board attracted such witty poeticism and punditry? LOL!
Keith Olbermann is one of the funniest men on t.v. I watch the 12 O'clock repeat and find it humorous. Everyone lighten up, it's a comdey not a serious news show. He's making a mockery out of the news! It's the 2000's verison of Not Necessarily the News!
Olbermann is imitating someone we all know and love. It will never work, for that man is a hero of all people:
http://www.gmax.co.za/feel/film/film04/pics/040823-georgehamilton.jpg
I'm having all the fun so I want the OlbermannWatch community to join in and help me with my latest limerick:
Olby was once more obssessed
With O'Reilly whom he thought was a pest
The ratings came in
He got his ass kicked again
__________________________________ .
Finish the last line for me! Bonus points if you can work in something that mentions "man tan"
Olby was once more obssessed
With O'Reilly whom he thought was a pest
The ratings came in
He got his ass kicked again
Surprise, Dana Millbank's the guest!
O.K, that was too easy.
Eddie Kay - What gave the answer away? Was it the hints? Maybe you knew it was McCarthy all along and you were just playing hard to guess. Either way, I stand by my little song and dance. And was nuance the word you were searching for? Just wondering. Maybe using the correct word isn't your strong suit.
My mom actually heard McCarthy speak in person so I come from a family who doesn't swallow the conventional tripe written about the man. As a matter of fact, she shook his hand. With McCarthy, there's the good, the bad, and the ugly. The good being his dead on naming of certain people as communists or sympathizers,( and therefore security risks) to the bad ( naming Gen. George Marshall and writer Drew Pearson, who were not communists but who found anti-communism to be a laughable exercize , to the ugly, which was for the most part his abrasive manner. If you would like some names, here are but a few: John Stewart Service, William T. Stone, Oliver Edmund Clubb, Edward G. Posniak, David Zablodowsky, Stanley Graze, Esther Brunauer Herbert Fierst, John Patton Davies, Dorothy Kenyon, Haldore Hanson, and Gustavo Duran. All of them had either been Communist Party members, friendly with communists, or held EXTREMELY favorable views of the most heinous ideology the world has ever seen. All were in sensitive positions of power in the State Department and charged with forming and carrying out American Foreign Policy. If you'd like to discuss these and others further, be my guest. Again, seeing how this is called Olbermann Watch, you could possibly suggest a website. All in all, there is much to back up much of McCarthy's GENERAL crusade against communist infiltration of the State Department during the 1940's and 50's. The evidence is the 20th century, my friend. From our acceptance of the Soviet Union as a beloved Ally in World War II, to FDR, with the help of Alger Hiss, handing Eastern Europe to the Soviets,to forcibly repatriating Soviet soldiers back to the USSR when they begged not to be, to giving no support to Chiang Kai Chek and the Nationalists against Mao Tse Tung, to settling for a draw in the Korean War ( that problem hasn't gone away ), to the Vietnam War and our self-inflicted sabatoge of our troops there. The country who defeated Nazi Germany and Imperialist Japan could't take care of the Viet Kong?
You mention his drinking problem and adultery. The man was no saint but I thought that at least his adultery would endear him to liberals. I guess not. The man was hardly the monster that is made of him. To you and even to conservatives who are embarassed by Joe McCarthy, I would reccomend a sober little 400 page book on the affair. It's by Bill Buckley and L. Brent Bozell ( father of L. Brent Bozell, jr., head of Keith Olbermann's favorite organization, Media Research Center) The research and documentation are unparalelled, although, E.K., you might disagree with the conclusions. It's published by Regnery.
So, you'd like a list of the Murrowphiles in journalistic circles, huh? Yeah, I'll have it on your desk first thing in the morning. You can't be serious. All I'll say is from the lavish praise heaped on " Good night and Good Luck" to the most coveted journalistic award being the Edward R. Murrow Award not to mention the fact that I've never heard anything the least bit derogatory said about St. Ed, I took it as being quite established that he is a beloved figure with the liberal media. And maybe McCarthy didn't go on with Murrow because it would soon become about him and not the charges he leveled. I don't think Murrow was interested in Joe's side of the issue. As the case with many others, Murrow had long before made up his mind.And the man was hardly a coward. No, what he did took big ones. You don't care for Olby but you lionize Murrow. Despise them both. They're cut from the same cloth. The same, orangie-hued cloth.
To Hank: How about this. " But the man-tan was lame, he confessed."
Boortz comments (conveniently ignored by KO/MMFA, etc.):
Boortz comments (conveniently ignored by KO/MMFA, etc.):
Considering they were only published this morning, they haven't had time to go through the news cycle.
That being said, he admitted that he went over the line in his comments and was wrong. That's enough of an apology for me.
This just in-- Olby tells Howie Kurtz at the WashPo that the reason that there are no conservatives on his show is that there are not a lot of conservatives that are "happy" to come on the show. Who believes this? Conservatives are afraid of Olby? Wanna name some names KK of conservatives you have invited who turned you down? Liar liar!!
In a previous post, I failed to mention the title of the book by Bill Buckley and Brent Bozell. It's called "McCarthy and His Enemies: The Record And Its' Meaning"
Hank, don't you realize that conservatives ARE afraid of going on the Olbermann show! They want nothing to do with that wicked radiation given off by the nuclear, orange man-tan! It's his strength, kind of like Samson's long hair and Popeye's spinach. Viva one sided cable shows.
Patrick, What an intelligent rejoinder to the issue of comparing Murrow to MCarthy, he shook your mother's hand and you read a book by Bill Buckley. Good research.Your assertion that liberals embrace adultery would fit nicely into McCarthy's "guilt by association".
Conservatives of all people including Buckley should who abhor a big government that demands people to proclaim loyalty to that government instead of the other way around. A practice in those years initiated by Harry Truman but made a cornerstone of the junior senator from Wisconsin's agenda.
Don't bother naming 20-25 people who Buckley claims to have been "exposed" by Roy Cohen, McCarthy's dangerous lackey. McCarthy didn't have the intellectual ability to even do that. He couldn't even keep the number of people straight who he claimed were communists in his West Virginia speech, Instead focus on the thousands of people whose lives were destroyed or tarnished by his fear mongering.Even Eisenhower who privately hated him was forced to stand on the same stage with him when he denounced Marshell as a communist.I admire Bill Buckley for his intellectual prowess but he is dead wrong on this issue.What is your take on Buckley and his views on the war? Yes people can disagree but McCarthy went beyond the pale.It is NOT a liberal/conservative issue.In typical fashion JFK showed more profile and less courage by refusing to vote to censure the monster.
You have neither the intellectual nor fictional right to compare a brave journalist in war and peace to Olberman. From both sides of the political spectrum Murrow was the best journalist of his time and Olberman tests credulity by calling himself a journalist.
Finally dun dum used to end his egotistic blatherring with "keep your knees loose" until the movie came out and he had the audacity to copy Murrow's words spoken as the bombs fell on London while he with an audience of 120,000 people sits with his lackey slaves in a TV studio.
With guests like Michael Musto
It's no wonder the ratings are low
Olby's stuck in last spot
With skin apricot
Meltdown's host has a slight orange glow
There once was a show that count down
Hosted by a pumpkin-hued clown
He lost the ratings race
Even bitch-slapped by Ms. Grace
The orange one was forced to leave town
There once was a show that count down
Hosted by a pumpkin-hued clown
He lost the ratings race
Even bitch-slapped by Ms. Grace
The orange one was forced to leave town
There once was an orange-tinted ass
That spewed venom and possessed little class
O'Reilly he hated
And daily he baited
Was the man-tan so he could pass?
what’s wrong with you people, you waste too much time thinking about a show on tv. You know the army could really use you right now, but here you are…. wasting precious Iraqi children killing time. How shamefull!!!!!
Reading all of your posts leads me to believe that you are all Idiots, In a true sense of the word. WOW
Again, Edward, Murrow was a huge tool, the kind that Olbermann only dreams of being. And please name these thousands of people that McCarthy destroyed? He accused a total of 110 people, and as I mentioned, the overwhelming majority were, at the very least, security risks, and at the very most, out and out communist agents. I'm not saying to spring for the cash for the Bill Buckley book. See if a library might have it in between all the pro-Murrow bullshit. As for Jack Kennedy, he was much more conservative in his early years and the Kennedy family and he were good friends. I don't think it was profile or expediency for that matter that he didn't vote to censure the man. As of that time, he may have still had a conscience. Oops! Do I have the intellectual or (NON) Fictional right to say that?
But don't let the facts get in the way of your postings. Why no response to the names I listed earlier? If you respond, I promise to have that list of liberal journalists who adore Murrow you requested. And I have every right to expose Edward R. Murrow for the snake he was. Not that I'm the first or the last. Your reasoning, to wit, McCarthy as psychotic red baiter, and Murrow as the brave crusader are not based in reality. Familiarize yourself with both sides of the issue. Buckley does a better job of presenting the left's position than the left itself.
I have no problem with Buckley, Buchanan, or anyone else, left or right, who disagrees with the war. You will find neither man calling for the impeachment of a president during wartime or joining hands with the bottom feeders of our society,calling the terrorists freedom fighters. I respect the hell out of both men and their reasons for opposing the Iraq war are well thought out. I disagree with them. But both say now that we're there we should finish the job. And I believe that both men opposed Clintaurus in his invasions of Haiti, Kosovo, and Bosnia, and the bombing and killing of several thousand Serbian civilians in that little skuffle. What say you about that? At least Buckley and Buchanand are consistent.
Concerning that remark about adultery, I just find it puzzling how when Slick Willy was applauded for being a man for his filandering and his hero, JFK as well, why would adultery even be mentioned. I would think it proves his humanity and not his monsterness. You can't stand Olbermann, the most shrill left-wing voice on the airwaves, but you disagree with just about everything on this board. An odd combination if there ever was one.
I see John dean is horrible because he is a disbarred lawyer. How about that Oliver North?
Why? Is he a disbarred lawyer too? How is that relevant to Krazy Keith?
I believe that John Dean was invited to testify not for his legal opinions, but due to the fact that he was Executive Council for the last wartime President who engaged in secret domestic wiretapping without judicial oversight. Said President happened to be impeached, and his use of wiretapping was the reason for the formation of the FISA courts.
Convicted felon John Dean is a person of little credibility. He brought a defamtion suit against G. Gordon Liddy in 1992 only to run like a scalded dog when the case was called for trial thus resulting in a dismissal. He has continued his campaign of axe grinding against the Republican party with his book (now in the bargain basket at your local Barnes and Noble) Worse Than Watergate. Another partisan guest on the Hour of Spin. So we have John Dean on The Hour of Spin so he and KK can genuflect to each others opinions. How about another guest to offer a contrasting view? Oh, sorry, no dissent allowed on Olby Planet.
John Dean = Felon = Bad
G Gordon Liddy = Felon = Good
Oliver North = Felon = Weapons to Iran = Hero
I really dont get it, whats that Hannity says ah, Intellectually dishonest.
For some reason, people want to talk about everything except Krazy Keith and The Hour of Spin. Gordon Liddy has never appeared on The Hour of Spin to my knowledge. Where has this site ever proclaimed him to be "good"? Tell the truth, now.
Then the divert and distract continues with Oliver North. More lies. Oliver North is not a felon. He's never appeared on the Hour of Spin either, so what's the relevance? He has nothing to do with John Dean. Dean is a sleazy disbarred ex-con felon.
Speaking of Hannity, I heard him fellate Tom Delay on his Sirius satellite replay the other night. And you whine about John Dean?!? Puleeze! Ollie North partially got off on a technicality that Rethuglicans so often decry. Caspar Weinberger was pardoned. The GOP seems to know so much about law and order because they've been able to corral a great majority of the crooks and liars running loose into their own party.
What does this have to do with the lies of Keith Olbermann?
Wow! i've just come across the stupidest place on the internet..... Don't you people have lives?
@ Johnny...
I'm not trying to distract honestly I hate when ppl do that but without distractions this site wouldnt exist. Someone brought up that John Dean was a felon...I dont know what that has to do with anything, so why bring it up? and you're acting like I'm wrong...Liddy is a felon, Olie is a felon but the right lifts these ppl up? Why?
I'm not here to cuss you out or call names cause thats another distraction.
Journalism doesnt consist of finding one person with a view and another to disagree...its about truth not defenders and opponents? Because weather channels dont have someone sitting on the other side saying "It ISNT going to Rain, you're a rain loyalist"
JGF, you are not here to district? Then why do you bring up two people, North and Liddy, who have nothing to do with Olbermann? Now I'll try it again, slowly, so maybe it will sink in. Oliver North is NOT a felon. If you can't tell the truth about that, why should I listen to anything else you say?
I brought them up because others suggested that Dean is a felon and thats one reason that he deserves ridicule *shrug*
North was convicted of lying to congress...thats true is it not?
and Liddy is a felon and like I said before he's propped up as a hero or something
Mr. Dollar,
How could you claim a person with the handle, "Jeff Ganon Fodder" is trying to distract?
Ad hominem attacks huh? ineffective...names dont determine behavior
You dont like that name? I dont like him being in the White House *shrug*
> North was convicted of lying to congress...thats true is it not?
No, it's not true. In fact, it's double not true. Not only was he not convicted of lying to congress, he was NOT CHARGED with lying to congress. Please try to hold on to some tenuous connection with reality when you post here. Don't try to slip false information past us. Krazy Keith is a master at that and he doesn't get away with it, so don't get the idea that you can.
hello losers! just a quick note to say how lame ya'll are and that you and your party and your president are a laughing stock. couple of headlines from today's Onion: Tom DeLay To Pursue Corruption In Private Sector ... Critics Blast Bush For Not Praying Hard Enough. too funny. between the karma and the zeitgeist you'll be laughed at for years to come. so long losers!
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