You forgot to mention at the end of the show Olby said---Today is the 1,056 day since bush declared "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq. Also your little email comment, was that he gave out the dude's PERSONAL email address. Any way, shouts out there Johnny D, from your favorite liberal Bluefire............By the way Johnny, are you and I still going to the Peace March next week????

Tonight was the night when Grasshopper (KO) met his Sensa. Thats right Kwai Chang Caine meets Master Kan (Davey Brocksucker).

Master Kan Say

When you can snatch ball sack from my hand Grasshopper, it will be time for you to leave.

"Also your little email comment, was that he gave out the dude's PERSONAL email address."

Wrong.

From BillOreilly.com: If you are as outraged as Bill is you can contact Jeff C. Bruce the editor of the Dayton Daily News (JBruce@DaytonDailyNews.com) and Jay R. Smith the President of Cox Newspapers Inc. (Jay.Smith@Coxinc.com) which owns the newspaper and let them know how you feel about this.

It wouldn't matter if he did give his other email address: jbruce@coxohio.com. That address is also posted right on the Dayton Daily News website:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/search/content/service/info/guide.html

So Bluefire, let's have some accuracy here, OK?

If you truly don't think that the President and his administration was attacking the media this week then you have no idea how people phrase things in politics. You take two sentences from two separate days and try to pass it off as "Bush is fine with the media, it's no big deal, and Keith is stupid."

NBC segment on reporters in Iraq was great, glad to see you pass it off as some lame attempt to get people to like them. And you always repeat over and over when Keith uses an NBC story on his show - WHO CARES? Believe it or not, some people aren't at home to see the report when it happened earlier that day. They had footage from weeks in their segment, which made a good point - reporting in Iraq isn't fun and games, even if you think we're just reporting from balconies. And I saw nowhere in his report that the journalists getting injured or killed was a result of Laura Ingraham.

And then you transfer into an attack on Richard Wolfe. He didn't get a partisan report, and hardly does when he appears on the show (unless you call being critical of someone who made some stupid comments partisan), yet you still need to attack him whenever he's there. You took a quote from part of a sentence you said and blew it out of context. Great job.

Unlike you, I'm glad that Keith doesn't talk to guests who end up yelling over people or that he doesn't have two guests on who argue with each other, if you want a show like that turn to something else. You really like name-calling don't you? Keith is insecure because he doesn't talk to someone who made some stupid comments, and he's also a coward because he doesn't like getting involved in shouting matches.

This wasn't an issue where she is to just come on and defend herself, this is an issue where she claims that NBC hates President Bush, and that they're cowards for not going to Tel Afar (a secure area) in Iraq to do their reporting. Give me a break, this woman wanted the Today show to do a story in Iraq, I bet it'd only be brave if they did it in the middle of a fight.

Keith was one of many reporters to have Helen Thomas on his show, and your point is? She was in the news, he had her on his show. When you get your own T.V. show you can invite Ann Coulter on to talk about why liberals suck.

You are aware that Keith wouldn't even be talking about the issue unless Bill didn't say something about it, do you? You just go off on a tangent and start complaining about mediamatters.

Giving out someone's e-mail isn't harassment, but giving it out to people who you've just riled into a frenzied rage and told them to spam this guy about how much you hate him is borderline harassment. And Keith wasn't just talking about the giving out of an e-mail, he was talking about the constant things O'Reilly does: threaten local authorities, threaten to give someone's home address to the listeners because they disagree with him, etc.

Oh wait... we haven't insulted the viewers yet... uhh, they're hapless and ignorant.. phew..

There was a time over a year ago when I could sometimes watch the entire hour of Countdown and I thought that KO had a rather quirky sense of humor that made it worthwhile to sit through his rants. Now, I can only stand to watch Coundown in VERY small doses as he just seems to be getting more mean, manic and desperate by the day. And that quirky sense of humor seems almost gone now. Too bad, no Tom Cruise tonight (and by the way...what IS his problem with Cruise?) but we were rewarded with yet another story about ViVi, the missing dog and the recycled piece about lost airplane luggage along with another not unexpected rant about O'Reilly and Laura Ingraham. An evening without Michael Musto, Mo Rocca or Craig Crawford can't be all bad, though.

I would just love to see the gutless wonder square off with Laura Ingraham. She would decimate this belligerent bully. He hides behind his own kind. No debating abilities. MSNBC better start looking for a reasonable opponent to Karzy Keith's insane opinions. The entertainment factor will soon wear off, and the other Factor will still remain supreme.

While O'Reilly clearly has, to me, a conservative or right-of-center bias (or perspective or view or whatever one wants to label it) on issues, at least he is willing to take on a Phil Donahue or a Begala or a liberal guest to hash out an argument. It's obvious that he enjoys jousting with people and it's both good and (occasionally) informative television.

Olbermann apparently doesn't want to take on the other side. Here we have him criticizing Ingraham and he doesn't have the decency to allow her to defend herself on the air. O'Reilly would invite someone he criticizes onto his show to debate them. Not Mr. Olbermann.

That's pretty cheap. Forgot about whether Olbermann is on the left or whether he's just being an aggressive watchdog against Republicans who control Washington; responsible journalists should allow people they're critiquing to respond to the criticism.

Like I said, cheap work.

SMG

Cheap shots is what Obly is all about. He will never comfront people is has issues with. He slams Laura.for speaking out against the media. At least she had the "balls" to go to Iraq, Keith. Oh thats right you don't have set do you. Maybe you can borrow Billy Clintons he can't uses he's May Keith can play the role of "Pat" on SNL!

Cheap shots is what Obly is all about. He will never comfront people is has issues with. He slams Laura.for speaking out against the media. At least she had the "balls" to go to Iraq, Keith. Oh thats right you don't have set do you. Maybe you can borrow Billy Clintons he can't uses he's May Keith can play the role of "Pat" on SNL!

Why is everyone so uptight with the media??? There is this thing going on in Iraq called a war.Why is it all of a sudden such a huge surprise that when the media goes to Iraq, that they would actually report about of all things -A WAR-. Gezzz whod a thunkit. How dare them go to a war zone only to report about a war. Also if everything was so hunky dory as they are made out to be the media would go out to cover other stories. It's not worth risking your life just to go out and report about some Tea Shoppe having a grand reopening ceremony. Bu than agian that's just my point of view........

The real coward is TVNewser, the pro-MSNBC, pro-Keith Olbermann, anti-Fox, anti-CNN weblog. He does more stories on Keith Olbermann and Countdown than Bill O'Reilly, Paula Zahn, and Nancy Grace (all who easily beat him in ratings) combined and bashes Fox, CNN, and CNN Headline News constantly while always seeming to find a postive spin for every issue involving Olbermann or MSNBC. Check out this latest post - and note that Laura Ingraham is a "conservative talk show host" but Keith Olbermann is not labeled as a "liberal talk show host."

I'm serious, keep your eye on TVNewser for a week and you will see the blatant liberal bias of this site, which is widely read among journalists. Make sure to e-mail this college kid (keep it clean) and tell him what you think about his biased site, too.
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Olbermann Calls Ingraham's Comments On 'Today' Unforgivable & Desperate

Tuesday morning on Today, conservative talk show host Laura Ingraham said the morning show should do a broadcast from Iraq -- "to actually have a conversation with the people instead of reporting from hotel balconies about the latest IEDs going off."

On Wednesday's Countdown, Keith Olbermann responded: "A note about Laura Ingraham's comments. I've known her a long time. I'll in fact give you the caveat that I've known her socially. But that hotel balcony crack was unforgivable.

It was unforgivable to the memory of David Bloom. It was unforgivable in consideration of Bob Woodruff and Doug Vogt. It was unforgivable in the light of what happened to Michael Kelly and what happened to Michael Weiskopf. It was unforgivable with Jill Carroll still a hostage in Iraq. And it was not only unforgivable of her -- it was desperate and it was stupid."

David Bloom
Bob Woodruff
Doug Vogt
Laura Ingraham
Jill Carroll
Michael Weiskopf
Michael Kelly

What do these people have in common? They have all risked their lives doing their jobs in Iraq.

Keith Olbermann has never been there. What an unbelievably arrogant and hypocritical statement for him to make.

You do realize Keith was standing up for them, while Laura Ingraham seemingly forgot about them until she got onto the O'Reilly factor. Laura came onto the Today show with an agenda and that was: "MSNBC is making the president look bad and I don't like that."

Once again, Laura Ingraham and the all the people Olbermann mentioned have put their lives on the line to go see what was really happening in Iraq. He has not. I am pretty sure that the brave folks who have been to Iraq do not need an armchair pundit like Olbermann sticking up for them.

You do realize Keith was standing up for them,

So, simply have Ingraham on the show and go back and forth with her on the issue.

Don't blast her and not let her respond.

This isn't (or shouldn't be) about left vs right or Republicans vs. Democrats. It's about good, honest journalism.

For all his faults, at least O'Reilly is willing to let critics appear on his show to defend themselves.

At the very least, it would have been interesting television, no?

Geez, does Olberman ever do something wrong in your eyes?

SMG

Awww....poor us. Keith called her out on her BULLSHIT....

Truth to Power, Bitches.....

Ingraham's complaints would be hilarious if they weren't so evil and mendacious. She's complaining that the reporters covering a war talk mainly about destruction and death. A war is, by definition, mostly about destruction and death. That's what you do in war -- you try to kill the other guy while not getting killed yourself. War is sometimes necessary, but war is all about killing, and reporters who don't mostly talk about killing aren't doing their job of covering a war.

As for "talk to the Iraqi army" -- in other words, she's saying her safe "embedded" position with soldiers (who naturally and understandably tell her what things are going great -- they should tell reporters that, but it's not always true) makes her more fit to talk about things than the reporters who actually risk their lives, and in some cases lost their lives. Olbermann is right -- she is dishonoring the dead.

Druggie Rush
Ann the Man Coulter
Sean Hannity
Dick Cheney
Condi Fried Rice
Bill O'reilly
E.D Hill
Brit Hume
Laura Ingraham
Joe Scarecrow
Bill Frist
Tom Delay
Ted Nugent
Charles Krauthammer
I could go on and on.....
What do these people have in common? They never served in the Military. They all claim to be so patriotic. And I guess they are as long as others are willing to do the killing and dying. What a bunch of unbelievable arrogat and hypocrtical people to admire.

Ooh, David Brock a self amitted pro liar? Cool, I could use that! Anyone know where i could find his self admission?

"Ingraham's complaints would be hilarious if they weren't so evil and mendacious. She's complaining that the reporters covering a war talk mainly about destruction and death. A war is, by definition, mostly about destruction and death. That's what you do in war -- you try to kill the other guy while not getting killed yourself. War is sometimes necessary, but war is all about killing, and reporters who don't mostly talk about killing aren't doing their job of covering a war."

The media never ever talks about the progress being made in Iraq they only focus on the negetives and never the positives. Most of the media especially MSNBC and especially KO are trying to undermine the war efforts.

"What do these people have in common? They never served in the Military. They all claim to be so patriotic. And I guess they are as long as others are willing to do the killing and dying. What a bunch of unbelievable arrogat and hypocrtical people to admire."

This is one of the dumbest things I've read. So to you the only way to be patriotic and support the cause of this war is that you have to have served in the military? I also noticed Joe Liberman wasn't on your list, but I guess that's because you only want to single out republicans.

The media never ever talks about the progress being made in Iraq they only focus on the negetives and never the positives.

Then where did you hear about the positives? Mars? No, you heard the good things courtesy of reporters who are in Iraq -- in other words, from the media.

The reason "the media" reports on the bad news more is that the bad news is what affects people in Iraq. If there were car bombings every day in New York, the media would be reporting on the car bombings more than the schools being painted or trains running on time. Same for Iraq. The "bad news" is what actually matters.

So to you the only way to be patriotic and support the cause of this war is that you have to have served in the military?

No, but people who serve in the military do tend to have a better understanding of why war is hell, and to be more reluctant to send soldiers off to die for nothing. And of course, the lack of military service helps explains why conservatives hate veterans -- hence the attacks on soldiers like McCain, Kerry and Murtha.

I also noticed Joe Liberman wasn't on your list, but I guess that's because you only want to single out republicans.

Oh, we liberals hate Joe Lieberman too. He's not a bad Senator, but he's very wrong on the most important issue of our time: Iraq. If you support the Iraq war -- a war that has made America less safe and secure -- then you are not serious about national security. Bush is not serious about national security, and neither is Lieberman.

Krazy Keith at it again? He is a nut, coward and gets things at best half right. he has a sense of humor at times, but he does pretty bad cut and paste footage, as tonight showed while missing the point that there are good things going on. no one denies there are bad things that are going on, we gte reminded everyday of them, but many good things have gone on too.

Is he to try and sell that only bad things are happening? wasn't the voting at 70% a good thing?

"Then where did you hear about the positives? Mars? No, you heard the good things courtesy of reporters who are in Iraq -- in other words, from the media."

Not the mainstream media that's for sure and especially not MSNBC.

"And of course, the lack of military service helps explains why conservatives hate veterans"

LMAO! This debate is over your credibility has vanished.

great work again mr. dollar. you have marveled as have i at olby once again. i couldnt help but watch olby today as he was like watching a train wreck. i can't believe keith has a show. i can't believe how classless keith is. and i can't believe with as much arrogance as keith has, that he actually thinks his behavior makes him look anything close to good. his fascination with oreilly is shocking. worse than for limbaugh! yet i have yet to see him even utter the words scarborough or buchanan or anyone else he may work with that disagrees with him on anything.

let us all enjoy the spectacle! it isn't often that keith is anything but a reminder to change the channel.

great work again mr. dollar. you have marveled as have i at olby once again. i couldnt help but watch olby today as he was like watching a train wreck. i can't believe keith has a show. i can't believe how classless keith is. and i can't believe with as much arrogance as keith has, that he actually thinks his behavior makes him look anything close to good. his fascination with oreilly is shocking. worse than for limbaugh! yet i have yet to see him even utter the words scarborough or buchanan or anyone else he may work with that disagrees with him on anything.

let us all enjoy the spectacle! it isn't often that keith is anything but a reminder to change the channel.

and i agree with gloria. i used to not be offended by keith's show. he suckered people into watching him, and then went ultra-left with or without the band of monkeys that direct his show.

I was doing some surfing after hearing about Ingham's appearance on Today and came across this site. I also happened to catch KO's opening monologue tonight. I can't stomach very much of him, but I do find humor in his frequent attacks on O'Reilly.

I find them both to be pompous blowhards who are more into self-adulation than reporting truth. At least O'Reilly uses guests with opposing viewpoints as part of his strutting ritual.

Case in point was Olberman's need to tell everyone that he know Inghram socially before he exploded with his guilt-ridden rant of what an awful person she is for accurately noting that most of the criticizing of the Iraq effort is made by journalist far removed from the realities on the ground.

Good site.

"You are aware that Keith wouldn't even be talking about the issue unless Bill didn't say something about it, do you? You just go off on a tangent and start complaining about mediamatters."

Now here's the thing, I wouldn't mind all the O'Reilly attacks so long as he attacked others but he doesn't. Did he mention anything when Air America host Randi Rhodes encouraged looters in New Orleans? Telling people to steal, sounds like WPITW to me. Did he say anything when Ray Nagin said the hurricanes were caused by God? No but he did when Pat Roberts said something. Hypocrite? Or what about Al Franken mocking a man who lost his leg in Vietnam? If that's not WPITW material then what is? Course Keith wouldn't mention Al Franken mocking a man who lost his leg because he was probably to busy trying to figure out how to take an O'Reilly quote out of context.

"Now, there are many brave men and women from various media outlets that are telling the story of what's going on in Iraq. They are working under difficult and oftentimes dangerous conditions. You see a lot of reporters getting out and actually embedding with the military, actually getting outside of Baghdad to tell the real story of what is going on in Iraq." - U.S. State Department Spokesman Sean McCormack 3/22/06

There is no defense for Laura Ingraham's words. None. She walked into Rockerfeller Center and basically spit in NBC's face. She spit in the faces of the 70 reporters and media assistants who have been killed in Iraq.

And that's not the part that's going to get her filleted. She threw the gauntlet down. She said to the media "all you report is bad news to make the President look bad". Don't dare a reporter - for every 30 seconds of usable footage there's probably 3 minutes of stuff that doesn't get aired. Mostly because the network is unsure the content is proper. Well, now they have a reason - to show what a war unvarnished and unfiltered is.

Since you guys have claimed in the past that Olby supporters don't address all the issues that JD posts because we can't, I am going to make a long post. However, I would point out that when I have posted the facts, usually, no one responds because they know they can't argue with FACT. Likewise, I will point out that since no one pays me to blog, I don't always have time to do it.

"Operation: Attack the Media": (Just out of curiosity, was that a chyron, because I didn't hear it?)
That, according to Krazy Keith, described the President's town hall discussion with military families on Wednesday.
I would point out that is how many people, not just Olby, have been presenting it. You guys have always been saying the media is liberal (something that has often been debunked, as I experimented and found out myself). In recent days I have seen and heard various conservatives from private individuals to commentators to Bush trump up the refrain that the media only reports the 'negative' and never the 'positive'. All with the attitude that the media is to blame for the violence because the insurgents know that violence gets on the news. My question is what are the positives? Even Bush said something to the effect of getting the information from the net, the blogs. Where is it? I've been to many sites, left and right, but I don't see much good going on: unemployment ridiculously high, electricity service even worse than just after the war, crime much higher. Isn't it entirely possible that the negativity in Iraq far outweighs the positivity? Engels (?) was spot on when he said that, here in America, the media (including your beloved Faux News) reports murders but not childbirths.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised that the media isn't all out against the Bushies. This has been the most closed, secretive government we've had in a long time.

"Is there something we're missing here?" Yes, your inability to see a pattern. This reminds me of the constantly regurgitated right wing refrain that Bush never said "Mission Accomplished" or Bush's own statement that he was careful not to say their was an Iraqi link to 9/11. I guess the majority of Americans (and what was it 60% of Faux News viewers) are stupid to think that he said these things.

"Olby regurgitated some footage put together by NBC as damage control for Ingraham's withering criticisms."
You meant ridiculous criticisms didn't you. The video provided clearly pointed out how her statements were just plain stupid.

"but to KO that's not the fault of the terrorists who are targeting journalists. No, it's Laura Ingraham's fault. It's Bush's fault."
And where did he say that? I must have missed it.

"After Keith lectured Laura ("unforgivable", "desperate", "stupid"),"
You forgot to add 'rightly' criticized Ingraham. Her remarks were callous and thoughtless, as has already been pointed out.

"Richard Wolffe was brought in to cast light on this controversy"
Okay, this is where I will admit I am confused. I have never been good with names so I might be getting Wolffe and Engels mixed up. However, nothing about why the long discussion of why the media might be reporting negativity (back to the murders v. childbirth and overall negativity things)

"When was the last time anybody who disagreed with [Olby's] spin was permitted to sit for an interview with your almightyness?"
Olby has constantly mentioned that he only does one-on-one's because his show isn't about shouting nonsense. Out of curiosity to some recent posts I have been watching conservative commentators and they tend to do nothing but spout nonsense and rhetoric without any substance (sort of like JD). So why should Olby have neo-cons on his show when they don't say anything!

"As if to prove our point, KO dragged out Helen Thomas, the rabidly anti-Israel "reporter" who claims George W Bush is the worst President in history."
1) rabidly anti-Israel? Nice spin to make it look like she is anti-Semitic. I guess describing Israeli actions in Palestine as 'suppression' is anti-Israel.
2) Umm, Dubya is the worst President in history, so what's wrong with that?

"Did the President answer your question yesterday?...He went off on a tangent about the adjective or rather the verb "want"..."
This too is correct. Where is the lie? The transcript clearly indicates that Bush did not answer the question but chose instead to relate Iraq with Afghanistan.

"Keith finally got around to O'Reilly attack #73."
Only 73? Wow, I would've thought it to be higher. BORe gives plenty of ammunition:

"Mr Bill is campaigning for a multiple child rapist to get something more than probation, and the local paper decided to attack O'Reilly personally (specifically his settled harassment suit)."
Wow! An outright lie! Are you off your meds, Johnny-boy? As Olby completely pointed out (unlike you) here are the facts:
BORe: "What newspaper in the United States of America is most friendly to child rapists? Could it be the Dayton Daily News?"
Why did he say this? Because DDN correctly pointed out "Taft …[and] Petro want … Connor thrown out of office — immediately. No formal complaint or investigation or hearing before judicial authorities." "So what changed? Fox television provocateur Bill O'Reilly made Judge Connor a cause célèbre — calling him the "worst judge in America."
Then in true (and correct) journalistic style DDN pointed out how all three men have had legal troubles and, as such, "could have been destroyed by a rush to judgment of the kind they are now inciting." Never did the paper give any indication that they were "most friendly to child rapists."
Olby was completely correct in indicating this was "grossly mischaracterizing". Now I would say that characterizing 'crank' BORe's remarks as 'ranting' and "cartoon-style inquisitions" as a personal attack IF, AND ONLY IF, they were not true.

"Anyone else does a personal attack, they end up as a "worst person"."
Meanwhile, BORe doesn't do personal attacks, does he? LOL.

"KO took a statement from the paper as absolute fact, even though its accuracy is disputed by the Fox producer involved in the conversation. No verification, no seeking the other side"
Oh, I get it, you mean like running a tape of BORe stating that DDN was "lying about a conversation" with Faux News? Yep, Olby should've done that. Oh, wait a minute, he did, didn't he?

"None other than self-admitted professional liar, David Brock."
I suppose you have proof of this claim, or is it just another put-up job like claming, without proof, some Soros connection with Olby.

"Jeff Bruce's email appears online at the bottom of each of his columns at the Dayton Daily News website."
It's already been pointed out he gave out the personal email. However, what's more telling is that by giving out the email address, BORe is egging on his viewers to harass the columnist personally.

"All of this Big News was more important than the Moussaoui trial, which only makes Countdown when Keith can use it to embarrass the administration. His hapless viewers still don't know that the judge backed off the decision that he was trumpeting so maniacally last week."
You know as well as I that KO can't cover everything, that he has a pattern to what he does cover (e.g. politics/big events, oddball, celebrity stuff), and that he often doesn't cover things that are well known like the Moussaoui trial, which, btw, I knew about. See that’s the difference between KO viewers and Faux News, we watch/listen/read other things to get a complete[r] picture. Nobody but idiots (like FN viewers) rely on a single source of info.

Finally, once again your posts are nothing but rants without any substance.

Now since I didn't proof anything nor carefully select my words I now give you permission to try to spin what I said into something totally different which is what you always do when you have the balls enough to actually respond.

The Mission WAS accomplished! Hussein was taken out of power. This blockhead is out of control with his juvenile rants and cheaply polished language. I watch this blockhead only as long as my stomach will allow then move on to something a bit more realistic. When is blockhead going to have the fortitiude and gumption to actually put HIMSELF on the worst person's list??
I cannot beleieve that MSNBC actually allows this blockhead moron to be on the air. Blockhead's attempt at credulity and legitimacy are further proof of our country's decline. Hey blockhead ya shoulda stuck with sports casting and left the news to adults!

P.S. I officialy vote for Blockhead & Helen Thomas for moonbat couple of the year. They are so cute together.

On Wednesday's Countdown, Keith Olbermann responded: "A note about Laura Ingraham's comments. I've known her a long time. I'll in fact give you the caveat that I've known her socially."

I fully blame laura for "knowing Keith socially." Good thing Keith told us he knew her so we would realize his objectivity was compromised! Really, who the hell is he kidding?

Where have I seen Krazy Keith talk of his warm relations with someone before attacking them? Didn't he say he was friends with John Gibson or Brit Hume before viciously attacking them? I believe it was one of the two. Just goes to show you, if you see Keith at a social function, turn away.

How many more enemies can a cellar-dwelling, biased, angry and uninformed newscaster afford to make before he is sitting at home yelling at the TV while watching his replacement?

Last night, in all honesty, was the first time I watched Keith Olbermann's show. I can't recall how I landed there: perhaps some tease of his caught my eye as I surfed through the news programs.

When I saw the pieces on Ingraham and O'Reilly, I found myself in some twisted Orwellian moment: the news is now the news. This is perhaps the biggest journalistic distortion of our time: reporters and commentators are reporting and commenting on other reporters and commentators in a flurry of competition for readers and viewers. It is dizzying, and it is cause for mourning. The news media are indeed narcissists.

I will say this: I have seen O'Reilly not only challenge guests like Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter, I have seen him vociferously disagree with both. He has disagreed with Sean Hannity; he disagreed quite passionately with Patrick Buchanan on a recent radio broadcast. This does not make him a hero; it merely points out that he is indeed much more balanced than KO, if last night's show was indeed emblematic of Mr. Olbermann. Had O'Reilly had Carl Cameron on his show to discuss Wednesday's Presidential press conference (Cameron is Fox's senior White House correspondent), he would not have been in any sense as deferential to Cameron as KO was to Helen Thomas (the "dean of the White House press corps" as KO affectionately named her); for Mr. Olbermann in fact not once, not even tangentially, challenged Ms. Thomas. He did not even feign scepticism for one second.

In other words, it is clear to me that Countdown with Keith Olbermann is blatantly partisan; while O'Reilly's Factor(s) are not (blatantly).

This morning I read Wikipedia's Olbermann entry (that is how I found this site). I am not a TV junkie, so I had no idea Mr. Olbermann's area of expertise is neither journalism nor politics; his expertise resides in baseball. That is not surprising. An expert in the field of journalism and/or politics would not behave with the sort of petulance that seems characteristic of Mr. Olbermann. With just a little nod to acadamics, professionalism and intellectual depth (according to Wikipedia, Olbermann suffered a bona-fide brain injury that permanently damaged his depth perception), Mr. Olbermann might see his viewership rise above the mere paltry less-than-one-tenth of O'Reilly's.

BTW: O'Reilly pissed me off at the end of his own show last night: It seems America is indeed leaping to Gomorrah.

Peace to you all.

How pathetic was it of Keith to say that he knew Laura "socially" presumably to prove that he is not gay.

We want Laura.
We want Laura.

Let's see if KO has the rocks to invite Laura on the show. You have noticed that almost all of his guests are boys. Hmmm, what's up with that?

Maybe a sports analogy will help Olby understand his idiocy:

Keith is the guy who is talking trash in the 4th quarter when his team is losing by 50 points.

I know I am in a minorty of people that believe that the U.S should pull our troops out of Iraq.
China-Iran-Al Qaida-Bin Laden and his ilk-And American rightwing kooks all believe we should stay in there. But at least I do stand with over 80% of the polled Iraqi people. Strange how the kookbags never mention that poll.

Hey Bluefire,

You are entitled to your opinion even if it is wrong. Now will you join me in asking KO to invite Laura Ingraham on his show.

Both Keith and Laura have entertainment shows that speak to audiences that already agree with them. If you're tuning in to them for real news or opinion you're an idiot and polls show you understand current events less than the rest of the population.

However, more reporters have been killed in this conflict than in any previous war or police action. Let's at least have some respect for the reporters and their families that have given their all in performing their job. If you have a problem with a particular reporter, name that reporter. Don't besmirch the entire group.

Or better yet, "DonsBlog," view the blog of a REAL reporter:

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/

Also, just because you get injured covering a story doesn't mean you know how to report the story. I'm sure if Michael Yon were injured, the lefties wouldn't claim him and jump to canonize him.

Wow, KfK, you're heartless. DonsBlog honestly talks about how reporters were killed in Iraq and how Laura shouldn't generalize them all into cowards because they "don't leave their hotel balconies", and then you say "view the blog of a REAL reporter" (as if the ones he mentioned weren't real reporters).

And then, presumably to back up your hate for all things left-of-center, you say that people on the left wouldn't care because he's conservative.

Sure Rick
I will help you in your quest... But I think it may be for naught. KO has his own format which is non combative. O'Reilly has his own format. How many times has he said SHUT UP!!! or CUT HIS MIKE! In the country I remember we had free speech. But that dose not apply to O'Reilly in his world. Also Rick don't you think that it is kinda strange that a lot of people are trying their hardest to get Ingraham on KO's show but are not putting up the same struggle to find out who sat on "Cheney's energy commision". Or why there are over 11,000 mobile homes just sitting and rotting away in Louisiana. I feel there are many more IMPORTANT issues before us than trying to arrange too talking heads on T.V just to come to sites like this afterwards to argue who won the battle. What do you say Rick???

Bluefire,

I said you are entitled to your opinion. You may want to extend the same courtesy to the other side. They are entitled to be wrong. Now you may not like what this administration has done but whatever it is it was done with THEIR good intentions. In the fullness of time, it may be shown that they made some bad decisions but I doubt it will be shown it was for personal gain or malice.

"How many times has he said SHUT UP!!! or CUT HIS MIKE!"

Not many but whenever he does Media Matters goes ape shit. Besides when it does happen 9/10 it's on the radio and not TV. But let me ask you this, how many times has KO had anyone on the show who disagrees with him? I thought there was something in this country called journalistic integrity.

And all these people who are upset with what Ingram said well the truth hurts and apparently Olbermann can't accept the truth. Especially since he has never gone out of his way to prove his worht as a journalist. He's never been to Iraq, he's never put pressure on a judge who gave a child rapist a light sentence, he's never called out anyone who he disagrees with to be on his show, hell he's never done anything except take pot shots at people he doesn't like.

Nonfactor,

What the hell are you talking about? How is my post "heartless?" I doubt you even believe your own posts, and I wonder why you even bother.

Rick---
I'm glad you said in the fullness of time. At the end of WWII if you were to ask a German how could you of let this happen? They would for the most part give one of two answers. 1. It was in the best intentions of the nation.or 2. I didn't know. Now as the years go by and the the awful truth of what is going on today. i.e illegal spying,torture,rendition,illegal wars,woman's rights being thrashed,culture of corruption...So on and so fourth. Now when you are and old man and you are asked. How could you have let all of that happen? Are you going to say? It was all for the nation. Or are you going to say. I didn't know.

I just LOVE that Keith pisses off you kool-aid drinkers. What's the flavor this month?

To Contratimes: Thanks for your thoughtful insights. I'm sure there are many of us who will look forward to hearing from you again.

Bluefire,

Is that it? I can tell you are a KO clone because you like him tend to overreach when making a point rendering your entire argument pointless. Hitler/Bush - naw.

And all these people who are upset with what Ingram said well the truth hurts and apparently Olbermann can't accept the truth.

What truth? She went out on a national network show and called the reporters who are risking their lives in Iraq cowards. That's not truth - that's a cheap shot.

And I can probably give you a good reason why KO hasn't gone over to Iraq - his depth perception problem. He can't discern speed or depth if he's moving faster than 15MPH. That could be kind of a problem in a combat zone...

And if the Administration wants positive stories, well they have cameramen in the military, right? All of the footage shot during "Operation Swarmer" was done by armed forces personnel. If they shot some footage of a school or water plant or whatever, I'm sure that Faux News would be happy to run it.

Trekkie wrote:

And I can probably give you a good reason why KO hasn't gone over to Iraq - his depth perception problem. He can't discern speed or depth if he's moving faster than 15MPH. That could be kind of a problem in a combat zone...

Man Trek, I laughed out loud at that one! Rumsfeld is 100 years old and he went to Iraq, but Krazy Keith can't because he once ran into a subway door? Give me a break you clown. If a pig started flying and Keith managed to ride it to Iraq, I doubt he would be asked to participate in combat!

Anyway, I don't want our troops in Iraq demoralized by an Olbermann visit. If Keith wants to know about Iraq, let him talk to Iraqi vets. The truth is he doesn't want to know about Iraq. He only wants to hurt the Bush administration.

Rumsfeld is 100 years old and he went to Iraq, but Krazy Keith can't because he once ran into a subway door?

Rumsfeld doesn't go where reporters are expected to go. Every time Rumsfeld or any other high-level U.S. official goes to Iraq, the areas they go to are the most secure and they're surrounded by larger concentrations of military personnel than any other civilian. There's no comparison.

Besides, if you're so hopped up about this, why aren't you making the same demands on Sean Hannity? Or Bill O'Reilly? Or Rush Limbaugh? They haven't done any reporting from Iraq either, so does that mean if they criticize something about the war they should be discounted, too?

The truth Trekkie is that the media especially MSNBC is trying to undermine the war and Ingram called them on it. Now I respect the reporters that go over there but they report on anything and everything bad and wrong in Iraq. Do they talk about the people who are happy were there? Nope. Do they talk about when new schools are opened up? No. But if there's a group of Iraqi's burning a flag well that's just fine by them.

And the reason nobody is asking Hannity, O'Reilly or Limbaugh to go over there is because their not trying to undermine the war. Not to long ago conservative talk show host Rusty Humphrey's went and interviewed an actual terrorist in his house, the media would rather just portray the terrorists as freedom fighters trying to get America out of their country. IMO this interview Rusty did should have made headlines everywhere the day after he did it.

Do they talk about the people who are happy were there? Nope. Do they talk about when new schools are opened up? No.

You apparently missed the segment last night where a car bomb went off while the reporter was at a school that was being opened. Or the story last week on "Reliable Sources" about the Iraqi sitcom coordinator who was assassinated while an ABC camera crew was at his studio filming a story about Iraqi television. The media tries to do positive stories, but the violence permeates everything.

And you didn't answer my question. If the Administration wants positive stories, why not use the support personnel in the military that went out with "Operation Swarmer"? The military has their own cameramen and reporters (who do you think writes Stars and Stripes).

Not to long ago conservative talk show host Rusty Humphrey's went and interviewed an actual terrorist in his house, the media would rather just portray the terrorists as freedom fighters trying to get America out of their country.

Excuse me, but you must be receiving some other media signal than me. The only people that are making that claim are the far-left blogs, and even I won't listen to them. I can think of no "mainstream" personality that is making the claim you assert.

I would never compare bush/hitler although hitler was evil.
Hitler served in combat.
Hitler conducted many successful military adventures.
Hitler completed his military service.
Hitler was worshiped by the vast majority of his country.
Hitler was VOTED into his office by the majority of people. I could go on forever but why bother. Now if you see aspects that are simular between the two. I have nothing to do with that. Also I know that the Kaiser appointed Hitler to be the Fuher. But that was after Hitler had won the position he held in a fair, and open election.

Trekkie,

Just keep making excuses for Krazy Keith. The more he plays to his base, the less successful he will be. I know you personally Trekkie, and socially on this weblog, and your defense of keith is unforgivable and desperate.

I don't know how much of this I can take anymore. Judging by her absence, I think Cecilia had a stroke during Countdown -- I don't want to be next.

"You apparently missed the segment last night where a car bomb went off while the reporter was at a school that was being opened. Or the story last week on "Reliable Sources" about the Iraqi sitcom coordinator who was assassinated while an ABC camera crew was at his studio filming a story about Iraqi television. The media tries to do positive stories, but the violence permeates everything."

Those stories would have never aired anyway the only reason they did was because of the violence. As for the violence permeating everything well you just gave two examples in 3 years. The ratio of positive things to negetives in the media is unmeasureable.

"And you didn't answer my question. If the Administration wants positive stories, why not use the support personnel in the military that went out with "Operation Swarmer"? The military has their own cameramen and reporters (who do you think writes Stars and Stripes)."

The administration has been doing a poor job of trying to highlight the positives of the war. But that doesn't mean the media has to try and undermine the war efforts.

"Excuse me, but you must be receiving some other media signal than me. The only people that are making that claim are the far-left blogs, and even I won't listen to them. I can think of no "mainstream" personality that is making the claim you assert."

Of course there is no media making that claim... directly. But indirectly yes. If you want an example read an editorial in the times.

As for the violence permeating everything well you just gave two examples in 3 years. The ratio of positive things to negetives in the media is unmeasureable.

It is measurable - several studies (of varying degrees of reliability) exist that have measured the ratios you describe. Also, I could provide more examples, but J$ would probably not be happy with such things cluttering up his board.

The administration has been doing a poor job of trying to highlight the positives of the war. But that doesn't mean the media has to try and undermine the war efforts.

So free press is fine as long as it agrees with you? Last I checked, we have a solution for disagreeing with the news. It's called an "OFF" button.

If you want an example read an editorial in the times.

An editorial. As in an opinion - not a factual account. My local newspaper runs editorials saying that public schools should be shut down. That doesn't mean the Board of Education is actually doing it.

Olbermann is a prankster. If he was really seroius about his Leftist views, he would have on people whom he disagrees with like Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram and Michael Savage. That proves he's not a serious journalist. He's a Comedian looking for attention. So lighten up everyone, it's all a big joke!

Like KfK, I laughed out loud at some of these comments. Since Countdown began nearly 3 years ago, Olby's experience in reporting from the "field" consists of traveling to baseball's Spring Training (and then bitching that he had to work every day) and going to LA to pimp himself on late-night talk shows (which did nothing whatsoever for his ratings). Quite frankly, taking a chauffered company car to Secaucus is probably the most dangerous thing he's done lately. Maybe he got a paper cut tossing his scripts. He has no credibility when taking to task any reporter/commentator about this issue, especially one who has actually been to the war zone. I challenge Olby to invite Laura on his show to debate, but seeing how he ran scared from gossip columnist Lloyd Grove and his assistant, I doubt Olby has the guts to do it. I think he arranged this classless stunt just to announce that he used to date Laura. Grow up, Keith - high school is over.

I don't mind a free press, just a biased one. "What bias" you say? How 'bout this smoking gun:

ABC NEWS EXEC: 'BUSH MAKES ME SICK'; E-MAIL REVEALED

A top producer at ABC NEWS declared "Bush makes me sick" in an email obtained by the DRUDGE REPORT.

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash9ab.htm

I suppose that is okey dokey and just an aberration, right? I mean, after all, the guy is just in charge of Good Morning America (weekend edition)! And Helen Thomas, ABC's Gregory (on the Today show today) are unbiased little reporters. No wonder Fox kicks all their asses.

If it's a big joke Tania, then it should be advertised as such. He is attempting in his small way to alter or shape public opinion and simply put...it's disingenuous and dispicable. His motis operandi is much more sinister than to simply entertain and to believe that's all it is, is either being misguided or part of the propaganda campaign Olby continues to promote.

If it's a big joke Tania, then it should be advertised as such. He is attempting in his small way to alter or shape public opinion and simply put...it's disingenuous and dispicable. His motis operandi is much more sinister than to simply entertain and to believe that's all it is, is either being misguided or part of the propaganda campaign Olby continues to promote.

I suppose that is okey dokey and just an aberration, right? I mean, after all, the guy is just in charge of Good Morning America (weekend edition)!

And I suppose you've never made a flip remark by e-mail? Or said something in the heat of the moment?

He makes what amounts to an offhand remark and you hold it up and scream "Bias!"

Does he have editorial control? Can he tell journalists what stories to cover? Did he demand that journalists slant stories in a particular direction (as Fox News has been proven to do)?

Your "smoking gun" is blowing smoke back into your face.

Earth to Trekkie . . . Trekkie, can you hear us?

Sure, I am to blame for bringing up the fact that the liberal jackass from GMA hates Bush! It has totally blown up in my face! Just wait until the guy loses his job over this, then act bewildered and blame the Drudge Report. If a Fox exec. editor had sent an email like that about Hillary, would you be equally forgiving?

How many dopey excuses can you vomit up in one thread Trekkie? So far today, we hear that Keith can't go to Iraq because he hit his head once, newspeople are not biased even when they e-mail their pals saying "Bush makes me puke," and the media is unbiased in its coverage of the war. Next we'll hear how Romulans live in your basement, Klingons stole your rent money and you have a girlfriend!

Drudge quotes a friend of Green's at ABC: "John feels so badly about this email. He is a straight shooter and great producer who is always fair. That said, he deeply regrets the sentiment expressed in the email and the embarrassment it causes ABC News."

Why is he so sorry? Trekkie has his back, and it is no big deal! Why does he think it hurts ABC news? This guy has no idea how small all this is, right Trekkster?

If a Fox exec. editor had sent an email like that about Hillary, would you be equally forgiving?

Actually, yes. It's a offhand remark. Next you'll be telling me that when Charles Gibson tugs his right earlobe he's about to be biased.

Sometimes an offhand remark is just an offhand remark.

> If a Fox exec. editor had sent an email like that about Hillary, would you be equally forgiving?

A superb point, KfK. To extend it a bit, is there any doubt that such an email would get that Fox guy "worst person" status faster than you can say Media Matters? Let's see how/if Krazy Keith handles this.

Keith must be laughing his tail off and thanking you guys for all your free advertising. Keep it up, tell everyone you can think of how much you don't like Keith. Of course, they'll just turn on his show to see what you mean.

No wonder his numbers are going up so quickly.

I'm sure O'Reilly has benefited from all of Keith's free publicity as well. Olby makes a point of mentioning his name in jealousy whenever he can.

Yes we know of good news from the media and print , but it is not broadcasted over the mic. Con dont hate the military. red commies and socialists do like yourself.

Con dont hate the military. red commies and socialists do like yourself.

Now you wait a minute...you wait just one damn minute. You don't get to come in here and paint me with that label. I don't "hate the military". My father and grandfather served honorably in the United States Navy. I have friends in the Air Force who have been deployed during this conflict.

So I have a very healthy respect for our troops. They didn't choose to be sent off to war. They got their orders and they went. It's a job, just like the cop walking a beat or a construction worker hammering boards together.

I don't have to support the policy that sent them there in the first place. You can do one without having to do the other. If you wear the uniform of the United States military and you serve with honor, then I respect you for it.

I have had knockdown dragout arguments with members of my own side who blame the groundpounders for this war. It isn't fair, nor is it fair to assume that all liberals hate the military.

trekkie that wasn't directed at you, but eddy, he said conservatives hate veterans, which is ridiculous. his politics are showing. This was not directed at you and I did not paint you that way.

what you said makes sense and people can disagree about this hot topic. many far lefties dont really want a military at all tho as I am sure you know. I'm not saying all conservatives are always right either with things, there are divisions on both sides.

Just to correct a couple of things:

Rush Limbaugh DID go to Iraq to visit and entertain troops. As for Charles Krauthammer and military service, he has been paralyzed since he was 22 years old, right after graduating college.