KO plumbs the depths of discredited guests with partisan political hack/CIA operative Joe Wilson. Tomorrow, Michael Jackson discussed "Child Care Tips" for the rich and famous.

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KO will balance Wilson's appearance by interviewing journalist David Corn.

The Scoreboard: Tuesday, April 4

Total viewers 8PM:

1. Fox O'Reilly: 1,614,000
2. CNN Zahn: 516,000
3. HLN Grace: 459,000
4. Meltdown w/ Krazy Keith 352,000 (last place)

As Joseph Cirincione of the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace recently pointed out, the administration seems to be following exactly the same script on Iran that it used on Iraq: "The vice president of the United States gives a major speech focused on the threat from an oil-rich nation in the Middle East. The U.S. secretary of state tells Congress that the same nation is our most serious global challenge. The secretary of defense calls that nation the leading supporter of global terrorism. The president blames it for attacks on U.S. troops."

Does this sound far-fetched? It shouldn't. Given the combination of recklessness and dishonesty Mr. Bush displayed in launching the Iraq war, why should we assume that he wouldn't do it again?

I wonder if Krazy Keith will talk about the Italian election tonight. Seems the leftist won the exit poll, but the actual election results imply a possible win for Berlusconi. We all know what that means in the Meltdown universe -- exit polls in favor of a leftist with a win for a conservative automatically means ELECTION FRAUD! Whoopededoo!

[Channeling Keith]: "Dismay in Rome tonight as widespread doubts are being expressed quietly and not-so-quietly from members of the center-left including . .er. . in addition to the media both in Rome and here tonight, as reports of long lines at polling stations in poor areas of Rome are appearing as well as reports that Gypsies were disenfranchised while a movement is underway to declare the winner through alternative means such as exit polling and . . . er . . . we turn tonight to Lawrence O'Donnell who has been following the story closely and has evidence of links between the election results, Mr. Bush's White House and Berlusconi -- good evening Larry . . ."

KfK - shoot me an email when you have a chance. I want to chat with you. I'm on the road but will be back in NY on Wednesday.

- Bob

KfK - shoot me an email when you have a chance. I want to chat with you. I'm on the road but will be back in NY on Wednesday.

- Bob

The Plame story is now offically D.O.A
Even the liberal bastion, The Washington Post, in an editorial has stated that Joseph Wilson is an unabashed liar
Now the highly discretied David Shuster is out continuing to pimp a dead story....is it any wonder why KO continues to lag in the ratings

What a surprise! KO again makes himself the focus of one of his stories tonight (PageSix gossip columnist). Humility in action.

Even the liberal bastion, The Washington Post, in an editorial has stated that Joseph Wilson is an unabashed liar

Which one? In the paper or online? What's it called? When?

He went on to regurgitate the lie that the President claimed Iraq sought Uranium from Niger in the State of the Union address.

I didn't watch, yet, but how is it a lie?

State of the Union Address: The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa.

Q: The President's statement at the State of the Union was incorrect?

[White House Spokesman] FLEISCHER: Because it was based on the yellow cake from Niger.

Mr. Dollar,

Another triumph! However, I take issue (strongly) with your statement:

"He had a refreshing three-day weekend, but Monday night Keith Olbermann was back: man-tanned. . ."

I admit I have not watched Olby much recently, but I did catch "creepy gossip" segment with Michael Musto. I immediately noticed that Keith was lacking in the man-tan department. He looked powdery to me -- less "George Hamiltonesque" and more "John Malkovichian." I say he backed off the man tan during his hiatus, or at least since I saw him last a week ago. I know this to be true!

The remainder of your post is, of course, brilliant, even though you messed up the #5 story (as ranked by Olby's "Meltdown Software"*tm).

> I didn't watch, yet, but how is it a lie?

Because:

1. The President didn't claim it. He said British intelligence reported it. Which they did. And still insist.

B. He didn't say Niger, he said Africa.

III. Check the WashPost:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A39834-2004Jul9.html?referrer=emailarticle

"According to the former Niger mining minister, Wilson told his CIA contacts, Iraq tried to buy 400 tons of uranium in 1998."

How does that comport with his repeated claims that there was nothing to the uranium business?

It's a two "olbergasm" night for KO as he managed again to work himself into a story:

(1) about him and Fox Sports and
(2) his mention in the gossip page

Neither of these were exactly current news.

Scoring: KO receives one "olbergasm" for each story that he can bring himself into.

Is anyone else completely fed up with the TVNewser website? It is seriously a dumbed-down version of Media Matters, except at least they have the guts to criticize Chris Matthews. TVNewser is run by some college kid isn't it? He probably wants a job at one of the networks so he's kissing their tails in advance. Anyway, I read that site and all it is is Fox & CNN bashing while the kid promotes MSNBC, NBC, CBS, and ABC press releases. The funniest is the headline tonight about the "new MSNBC primetime lineup" (as if anyone cares about that insignificant network). It reads like a friggin' MSNBC press release and touts "rising ratings" while not mentioning that the network is in last place across the board in primetime, including the Olbermann train wreck. Please start paying more attention to this site, the mainstream media choir love when people sing to them and this TVNewser kid is doing it every single day.

KfK , the John Malcovich reference brought to mind the concept of " Being Keith Olbermann". Oh my, the possibilities.
Just wanted to say I lost the bet with my girlfriend. I was certain Seymore Hersh was going to be Keiths muse tonight. I'm betting double or nothing that the exicitable Sy Hersh is KK's special guest on Tuesdays hour.

1. Oh, c'mon, JD, that's a stretch and you know it. The Prez didn't claim because he said the British claimed? If he didn't believe it, would he have passed it on? Or, rather, if he didn't want to portray it as such would he have passed it on? How many things in life are you aware of because someone told you it in the past and then you claimed it to be true?

B. (B?) Repeating what I posted earlier since it addresses what I said:
Q: The President's statement at the State of the Union was incorrect?

[White House Spokesman] FLEISCHER: Because it was based on the yellow cake from Niger.

The reference to "uranium from Africa" was, according to the official White House spokesman, a reference to Niger.

So, nope, no lie from KO. The Prez did indeed claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger.

1. Oh, c'mon, JD, that's a stretch and you know it. The Prez didn't claim because he said the British claimed? If he didn't believe it, would he have passed it on? Or, rather, if he didn't want to portray it as such would he have passed it on? How many things in life are you aware of because someone told you it in the past and then you claimed it to be true?

B. (B?) Repeating what I posted earlier since it addresses what I said:
Q: The President's statement at the State of the Union was incorrect?

[White House Spokesman] FLEISCHER: Because it was based on the yellow cake from Niger.

The reference to "uranium from Africa" was, according to the official White House spokesman, a reference to Niger.

So, nope, no lie from KO. The Prez did indeed claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger.

Besides if I just heard correctly (I'll check my tape later) he said the NIE claimed that Iraq sought uranium not the Prez claimed.

I didn't respond to a question about what Ari Fleischer said. Olby didn't claim that Ari Fleischer said something. He said THE PRESIDENT said something, and he misquoted him. In fact, one might even say he doctored the President's quote, much in the same way as that ace quote-doctorer David Shuster doctored a quote from the special prosecutor. And by odd coincidence, every time either one of them gets a quote wrong, it's always to make it favor their spin, instead of the opposite.

Why wasn't Dick Durbin worst person for claiming the IRaq War has lasted longer than WW2? Or Harry Reid? Two reasons:

1. Media Matters doesn't list stoopid quotes by Democrats.

B. Olby has been covering for Reid and Durbin for years. Why change now?

What is it about you right-wingers and the truth? I don't get it. The facts are presented to you over and over and over again. Your leaders are liars. You can't refute it. So you attack anyone who dares to speak the truth. It's getting old. And more than anything, it's getting boring. The curtain has been removed.

Ah, you have to love the blind loyalty and make-'em-up-as-you-go-along morals of certain folks on the right:

Keith Olbermann: Liberal, so he must be a liar

Bill O'Riley: Sexual predator who had to pay off those he harassed. Hates gays. Spews inaccuracies at a mind-numbing pace. But he preaches the teachings of the right wing, so therefore he's your messiah

If stupidity ever goes to $60 a barrel, I want drilling rights to your skulls....

Kool-Aid anyone? Jill Perry is passing it around.

To Bill and Jill,
At least Bill O'reilly has guests who he disagrees with on. He never backs out of debates with ideological opposite. When was the last time Keith Olbermann ws confronted by Ann Coulter or Michael Savage. The fact is those 2 are his opposites on the Right. Savage would eat Keith for lunch. Keith then would hide under his desk. He can dish it but can't take it. That's why he singled out this site!

Bill

Dear Mr. Jackass could you please show the proof of Mr. O'Reilly being a sexual predator, A-HOLE! Could you also show us proof where he hates gays? Moron! And why would I want $60 barrel of stupidity when I can come over to you're house where it flows for free. PINHEAD!

JD,

I'm about at the point where I think critquing what Keith says has no value. It's what he isn't saying that needs to presented.

It is truly a case of the dogs that do not bark.

Why does every story have to be prefaced by Olberman's own experience. Forget the stupidity of the page 6 story, did you notice Olberman had to mention that they were interested in his higher ratings. What the hell is this nonsense about his ratings getting better anyway?

I would like FACTS not ideological spin. Will someone give me one example, documented that his ratings are growing higher.Some poster has written that this show has fewer people watching it then Nancy Grace. Is that true? Come on there are lots of Olberman fans on this site. Will someone answer this question?

JJ

Or maybe it's a case of "The barking dog has no bite!"

Olbermann is a sick prankster. I don't even take him serious anymore. Anyone that doesn't take on ideological opposites is not even worth discussing. working on my script for the new moves, with help from ObserverDan it's call....

The Olbermann effect.

And Krazy Keith, who was quick to cite polls to buttress his lead story, was oddly silent about the most recent Time poll on this one.

Maybe because the poll contradicts itself? 75% would deny illegal immigrants access to government services (like health care and food stamps) and 51% would deny children of illegals public education (which would mean more children falling into gangs and drugs).

But 78% said that if said an illegal was here, had a job, was proficient in English and paid taxes, they could stay. How can you reconcile this with the other results?

This is the crux of the problem: it isn't "stay or go", it's "who can stay and who must go". You want all 11 million illegals out of this country? Might as well wish for the moon while your at it.

And the fault for the failure of this bill lies with the "isolationist" Buchanan-esque wing of the Republican party. They didn't like Sessenbrenner's bill, so the dropped a ton of amendments on it. It never would have passed with those amendments on it, so it never got a vote. Now the Republicans are crying "obstruction" and pointing at Harry Reid.

Hey O'reilly,
This year is a midterm election year. I am sure you know this. I have noticed that the Republican battle cry is that -If you elect the democrats into the house this is what you will get-...We both know that the Republicans have been in office for over a decade. Don't you think that if they had really done a good job that their battle cry would be . Hey--Reelect us because over the years this is what we have done. And then just run on their record alone? Or do they not stand by their record, and just blame the Dems for all of their failures??? I'll be lookin for your response. Just wonderin.........

Because:

1. The President didn't claim it. He said British intelligence reported it. Which they did. And still insist.

B. He didn't say Niger, he said Africa.

and:

C. He was making a 'king's X' behind his back.

Ya know

I Feel the looney left is at the edge of the cliff. Take spaghettiloon's post. Just what connection does that have in response to O.R.R.'s. I'd wait for a response but it wouldn't make any sense anyway. My question would really be what do the scary Dems have to offer but BITCH,MOAN, and COMPLAIN! Hey would it be like what John Corzine did? Tell everybody he was going to cut taxes. And then when he got in Raise the piss out of them? Yeah right, that old Dem trick. Just a question......Do they make Kool-Aid spaghetti sauce now?

Ya know

I Feel the looney left is at the edge of the cliff. Take spaghettiloon's post. Just what connection does that have in response to O.R.R.'s. I'd wait for a response but it wouldn't make any sense anyway. My question would really be what do the scary Dems have to offer but BITCH,MOAN, and COMPLAIN! Hey would it be like what John Corzine did? Tell everybody he was going to cut taxes. And then when he got in Raise the piss out of them? Yeah right, that old Dem trick. Just a question......Do they make Kool-Aid spaghetti sauce now?

damm that server error

The Italian election is shaping up quite well as an Olby story. Results were even, and Berlusconi is contesting his 0.1% loss. Let's see how Olby does or does not cover this one.

As for JJ above who stated:

"I'm about at the point where I think critquing what Keith says has no value. It's what he isn't saying that needs to presented."

There is a nice idea in there. J$ already mentions what Olby doesn't cover on his show. Imagine what would happen if you took Olby's show and presented the same political stories using the mounds of reliable data Keith ignored. What an interesting contrast that would make.

Fresh from a resounding victory in Iraq, George W. Bush swaggered onto the deck of the USS Abraham Lincoln and confidentally declared victory. It was a pretty war, it was a clean war, it looked stunning in all its shock and awe. Never was there such a swift and amazing American victory, and it all looked so glorious on CNN.

As fake as his codpiece was his Iraq war "cakewalk".

After 2000 thousand dead soldiers, hundreds of billions of wasted dollars, tens of thousands of maimed young, hundreds of thousands of innocent dead Iraqis, and still no consistent electricity, clean water, or semblance of national order, this swaggering imbecile of a "leaker in chief" has the unmitigated gall to try and sell us on a new war in Iran.

I spent some time working in Florida as a roofer. Many (really most) of the employees of the company were illegals, with forged documentation. They all "paid taxes" because we got paid by check and they were automatically deducted. However, they were far from paying their share. They would claim the maximum number of deductions, so that there was barely any FICA taxes paid from their wages.

Everyone one of them drove a nicer car than I did(titled in someone else's name and without insurance or a driver's license). How about the house the "undocumented" plumber lived in? Not to mention the tax payer dollars going to educated his "undocumented" children.

This is not an anti-immigration issue as the protestors and media are making it out to be. It is a security issue (if Mexicans can walk across the border whenever they want, why can't Al-Qaeda?) and a financial issue. These illegals aren't paying their share of taxes (even the one's getting paid on the books, to say nothing of the ones getting paid cash). They increase car insurance rates, and put a drain on our local health care system.

I am all for immigration, just do it the legal way.

Sorry for the rant, but MSNBC in general (and the Countdown piece tonight) are not covering this story right, and it is burning my a$$.

I agree Scott. 3 of my 4 grandparents immigrated to this country LEGALLY.

What is the most infuriating thing of all though, is Mexico's immigration laws. How about we treat immigrants the same way Mexico does? One day I would like to buy a house in Mexico but I can't as non-citizens have no ownership rights. When Vicente Fox talks about what America should do for his immigrants that break our laws due to the fact that his government(and past governments) are to corrupt to develop a economy to support the country, REALLY pisses me off.

The real long term solution is to FORCE Mexico and it's citizens to fix its internal problems by not allowing them to export their poverty to the US.

Wishful thinking.

Spaghettilegs,
I'm voting Libertarian not Republican. The Republicans have governed like a bunch of Leftists. I'm never voting for those clowns again. I don't like the Dems either since they're really Socialist. That's problem in America the only legitimate Center-Right party are the Libertatians. I also don't like the Buchanan/Tancredo racist wings of the Republican part and the Notheastern Union/Blue Collar White racists of the Democratic party. A pox on both their houses.
Neither side wnats to secure the borders and have a leglization pathway for the Illegals here that want a better life. It's convenient for the problem to persist for both parties.
In short vote Libertarian.

Is Buchannan considered a Republican by anyone other than MSNBC anymore? He left the party in 2000 when he ran in Perot's party. He may be a conservative, but I don't think there's any love between him and the GOP.

Oreilly,
That is my fault. I assumed without 100% proof that you would just vote republican. I goota go but I'll be back later. BUSY!!!!!!!

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What does the far left and pantyhose have in common? They both irritate Bush!!

The Crazed Right Tries To Deal With a Rising Tide:

Conservatives are going bugfuck nutzoid at the immigration protests yesterday. To read and/or watch the right wing punditry is to witness the bittersweet sight of a pack of rabid mongrels drowning in a flooded alleyway. Yeah, it's kind of painful to see them suffer, paws trying to desperately find solid ground, whines coming through their foaming mouths, but, you know, fuck 'em - all they did was rip up the garbage, chase the children, and spread disease.

To Neil,
I'm a member of the Libertarian Right and I supported the protester. I know plenty of Leftist Union people who hate immigrants. This isn't right or leftist issue. Stop spinning the issue that way.

To Scott,
I'm sorry about putting Buchanan in there. I have a problem with the racist Tancredo/Senslessbrenner wing!

To Spaghettilegs,
It's ok no offense taken. I used to vote Republican, but have turned off by their Leftwing Socialist spending and that Bush doesn't take the gloves off with the Islamo-Fascists. Their catering to Chinese interests and allowing Tech work to go to India. Racists like Tom Tancredo (a Sicilian who looks Hispanic himself!) and wannabe Reichs Furher Senslessbrenner have broken the camels back. I live in S. Florida and know plenty of Latins that used to vote Republican who will not now because of those racists.

To my fellow compatriots on the Right, the immigrant bashing is going to cost you more votes than win it. Remeber Bush won because the G.O.P's share of the Spanish vote went from 35%-44%. The Republicans in Florida and Texas need the Hispanic vote to win.Think it through!

Now back to our regularly sheduled Komrade Krazy Keith bashing!

Is Buchannan considered a Republican by anyone other than MSNBC anymore?

Probably not, but his name is still invoked to represent the protectionist wing of the Republican party. If Tancredo gets more visibility, his name might become synonymous with this faction.

The immigration problem is one that cannot be solved overnight. Even if you somehow secure the border with Mexico, you still have the Canadian border to worry about (and that is the longest undefended border in the world). I mean, up until 5 years ago many of the entry points between the U.S. and Canada weren't even manned twenty-four hours a day.

Border security has to be on both ends, and right now the feasibility of securing both is just not there.

Trekkie,
We are going to agree on this one!
The fact is we have to secure all our borders Mexico, Canada and our Sea ports! The hijackers on 9/11 came from Canada. Not one of the terrorists were Hispanic. We need some a guest worker program and a legaliztion pathg for those already here. The truth of the matter is that Tancrapo/Senslessnobrainer on the right and the Union workeres on the Left are Racists. That's what this issue is all about. If the immigrants were from Ireland or France would there be a peep about this? Of couse not. Instead of focusisng on Hispanic immigrants why is nobody doing anything about the radical Islamo-Fascist Imans in Brooklyn or Detroit that call for death to Christians and Jews every Friday? Why did we allow a Taliban member to attend Yale, for free.
The enemy is Islamo-Fascisism and Chinese militarists. Stay focused people, Hispanics aren't the enemy!

For his part, Bush said yesterday he prompted Libby to leak so Americans could know "the truth."

"I thought it made sense for people to see the truth. That's why I declassified the document," Bush told reporters.

Is it no surprise, then, that a president who leaks misinformation to punish or seek revenge on a critic, then tells Americans it was for their own good, sees his poll numbers drop to record lows as a result.

Independent,
Nobody cares about the stupid Scooter Libby issues. The reason for Bush's low poll numbers is him not taking the gloves off in Iraq. That's why. Go to a bar and ask people about Scooter Libby, 99% of the people wouldn't know or care!

Another study presented at the conference, which was in Palm Springs, Calif., explored relationships between racial bias and political affiliation by analyzing self-reported beliefs, voting patterns, and the results of psychological tests that measure implicit attitudes -- subtle stereotypes people hold about various groups.

That study found that supporters of President Bush and other conservatives had stronger self-admitted and implicit biases against blacks and minorities than liberals did.

The analysis found that substantial majorities of Americans, liberals and conservatives, found it more difficult to associate black faces with positive concepts than white faces -- evidence of implicit bias. But districts that registered higher levels of bias systematically produced more votes for Bush.

"Obviously, such research does not speak at all to the question of the prejudice level of the president," said Banaji, "but it does show that George W. Bush is appealing as a leader to those Americans who harbor greater anti-minority prejudice."

To Oh Yeah,
If that's true expklain the 44% of Hispanics that voted for Bush. I lived up in NY and the most racist people were Leftwing Democratic union workers.Also Bush is on the right side of this immigration issue. Even liberal activists admitt this. This racial issue cut across the political spectrum.
Stop reporting these bugus studies.

"If that's true expklain the 44% of Hispanics that voted for Bush."

That is a non-sequitor.

WASHINGTON The boos overwhelmed the cheers this afternoon before the Washington Nationals' home opener. The crowd wasn't rooting against the home team, but against Vice President Cheney -- who threw out the ceremonial first pitch on a spectacular spring day.

Cheney stood in front of the mound and unleashed a delivery that bounced in front of home plate before Nats catcher Brian Schneider scooped it up.

The vice president was wearing a Nationals jacket that looked bulky, but it was unclear whether he had on a bulletproof vest underneath. President Bush threw out the first pitch at the Nationals' first home game last year.

To Name changer,
If you read my posts I adress Reublican racism. I also address Democratic racism! Racism cuts across all ideologies, classes and races. Why don't you address Leftwing Union Member racism!
I grew up in NY and those Etnic White Italian and Irish Union Members who were hardcore Democrats were some of the mostt Racist people I ever encountered. Explain that?

Americans Not Buying Republican Immigration Lies:

But in the new Post-ABC News poll, completed Sunday, 50 percent of respondents said they trusted the Democrats to better handle the immigration issue, while 38 percent trusted Republicans. A third of Americans approved of the president's handling of the immigration issue, while 61 percent disapproved. Only his handling of gas prices showed lower approval ratings.

Three-quarters of those responding said the United States is not doing enough to secure its borders, but they appeared to have rejected the argument that immigrants are an economic threat. About 68 percent said illegal immigrants are filling jobs Americans do not want, compared with 29 percent who believe they are taking jobs from Americans.

Jeremey,
democrats are also aginst immigration. The reason they're percieved as not is because the media is making it seem as only the Rublicans are against immigration. Ask any Italian or Irish Union worker what they think of illgals.

Look at the trolls posting about everything under the sun except what this site is devoted to: A daily reminder that the deplorable Keith Olbermann is nauseated by opposing views and doesn't have a speck of courage. Even the most ideological commentators on ALL the other shows bring on guests that don't bow to the host.
Maybe if they could defend Krazy Keith they wouldn't have to take up space here worrying about Cheneys jacket.

I apologize ObserverDan, These guys goy ne off topic.
Hey How's the script for The Olbermann Effect:The motion picture coming along?
Has Affleck signed on?
Lets get back to Komrade Krazy Keith bashing!

Oreilly-- If you had absolute unchecked power over the U.S for 24 hours, how would you deal with?
1.Iraq
2.The Iran nuclear issue
3.Soaring energy costs
Now anything you do during your 24 hours can not be challanged or changed by anyone. By the way you say you grew up in NY. I grew up on the Jersey shore myself. I think this is the Yankees year to win it all!!!!!!!!!! But I thought that since I was just a wee sprig.

I apologize ObserverDan, These guys goy ne off topic.
Hey How's the script for The Olbermann Effect:The motion picture coming along?
Has Affleck signed on?
Lets get back to Komrade Krazy Keith bashing!

Spaghettilegs,
Yankee fan myself. I hope it's their year, it's our right to win a World Series! Lol!
I would 1st deal with the oil situation by putting a profiteering Tax on the Oil companies. It's war time and It's treasonous what they're doing to the Ameican consumer. We also should do a Manhattan project like program to switch to Ethanol or another alternative energy. The fact is if Brazil can do it so can we.
2nd I'd pull the troops out of Iraq, but before that I would give tanks, helicopters and planes to the Shiites and Kurds and let them teach the Sunnis and their Al-Qaeda allies a lesson.
Then I would destroy Iran by bombing. Not Nuclear, but fire bombing like we did to Germany and Japan. I would use Nuclear buster bunkers against their nuke sites only.
That's my solution.
By becoming non Petroleum dependant, The Islamo-fascist would be back to walking their camels in the desert and Chavez would be broke.

More Krazy Keith indeed...

So, who is not watching tonight??

[raises hand]

This is soooooo cool, I get to do it.

THE SCOREBOARD MONDAY APRIL 10 06 (TOTAL VIEWERS)

O'REILLY 2391

ZAHN 621 (WHAT A DROPOFF!)

GRACE 608

AND BRINGING UP THE REAR OUT OF THE MONEY. THE CRAZY ONE HIMSELF!! 552 (YIKES!)

This is soooooo cool, I get to do it.

THE SCOREBOARD MONDAY APRIL 10 06 (TOTAL VIEWERS)

O'REILLY 2391

ZAHN 621 (WHAT A DROPOFF!)

GRACE 608

AND BRINGING UP THE REAR OUT OF THE MONEY. THE CRAZY ONE HIMSELF!! 552 (YIKES!)

News so good it just had to be posted twice!!!!!!

ObserverDan -

'Look at the trolls posting about everything under the sun except what this site is devoted to: A daily reminder that the deplorable Keith Olbermann is nauseated by opposing views and doesn't have a speck of courage.'

Actually, as I've said before, this entire site is an exercise in mental masturbation, with petulant children trying desperately to stave off having to admit to themselves that the government was stolen by coporate war criminals who are in the process of dismantling Democracy as we know it.

(By the by, ObserverDan, I really like the way you swipe at Olbermann's character using personal attributes you could never hope to quantify -- makes a strong argument for the converted -- nicely done!)

Being an anti-Olbermann site allows this place to focus on and attempt to debunk (extremely poorly, I might add) just one show. The site slogan should be: 'How wrong is Olbermann? Let me parse the ways.'

And any poster can be dodged in the name of 'not being on topic' (i.e., doesn't mention Olbermann, even if the topic's on something Olbermann reported), being called a 'troll' (i.e., the poster points out something the folks here would rather not have to acknowledge or address) or, my favorite, dismissed because they are 'anonymous' (i.e., anyone criticizing the site that uses an alias, I notice that this does not apply to site supporters, however). The equivalent of circling the wagons to ward off, as I said, information they'd rather not have to deal with.

Honestly, though, it's kind of a fun site, even with all the tnatrums and hostility. Salient observations placed by intelligent posters reduced to incoherant bickering by regulars who can't even comprehend what they're reading, choose a couple of key words from the post and let the epithets fly! And all over a fairly inconsequential news program. Wheeee!

Where else can I get so much inspiration for the ways that I will never, ever choose to be?

Oh, that's right -- Free Republic and Powerline.

But you guys are going to have to turn into some SERIOUS a--holes if you ever want to compete in their league, though.

Robert -

Robert, I saw you asked KfK to write to you, does this mean that his alias is an 'acceptable source'? If so, your hypocrisy is showing -- again.

ObserverDan -

'Look at the trolls posting about everything under the sun except what this site is devoted to: A daily reminder that the deplorable Keith Olbermann is nauseated by opposing views and doesn't have a speck of courage.'

Actually, as I've said before, this entire site is an exercise in mental masturbation, with petulant children trying desperately to stave off having to admit to themselves that the government was stolen by coporate war criminals who are in the process of dismantling Democracy as we know it.

(By the by, ObserverDan, I really like the way you swipe at Olbermann's character using personal attributes you could never hope to quantify -- makes a strong argument for the converted -- nicely done!)

Being an anti-Olbermann site allows this place to focus on and attempt to debunk (extremely poorly, I might add) just one show. The site slogan should be: 'How wrong is Olbermann? Let me parse the ways.'

And any poster can be dodged in the name of 'not being on topic' (i.e., doesn't mention Olbermann, even if the topic's on something Olbermann reported), being called a 'troll' (i.e., the poster points out something the folks here would rather not have to acknowledge or address) or, my favorite, dismissed because they are 'anonymous' (i.e., anyone criticizing the site that uses an alias, I notice that this does not apply to site supporters, however). The equivalent of circling the wagons to ward off, as I said, information they'd rather not have to deal with.

Honestly, though, it's kind of a fun site, even with all the tnatrums and hostility. Salient observations placed by intelligent posters reduced to incoherant bickering by regulars who can't even comprehend what they're reading, choose a couple of key words from the post and let the epithets fly! And all over a fairly inconsequential news program. Wheeee!

Where else can I get so much inspiration for the ways that I will never, ever choose to be?

Oh, that's right -- Free Republic and Powerline.

But you guys are going to have to turn into some SERIOUS a--holes if you ever want to compete in their league, though.

Robert -

Robert, I saw you asked KfK to write to you, does this mean that his alias is an 'acceptable source'? If so, your hypocrisy is showing -- again.

Jack Frost list to me 5 personal freedoms you had before Bush that you can't do now. I haven't lost any freedoms.
In fact is if freedoms were being taken away,
there would be death squads and people like you would be imprisoned. So please stop regurgitating propaganda.
Name for the 5 freedoms you lost.

"The hijackers on 9/11 came from Canada."

NO THEY DIDN'T!

Yes, the attempted "Millennium bomber" was aprehended trying to enter Washington state from Canada, but NONE of the Sept. 11 hijackers entered the US from Canada.

Our 'homeland security' is by no means perfect, but enough with that canard.

Why doesn't Canada classify Hezzbollah and Hamas as Terrorist organizations?
In fact Hezzbollah and Hamas are allowed to raise money in Canada.
The fact is I'd perfer 5 Million Mexicans than 1 canadian.

In fact Hezzbollah and Hamas are allowed to raise money in Canada.

Not true. Both the military and social arms of Hezbollah have been listed as terrorist organizations in Canada since 2002. It's a crime (punishable by up to 10 years in prison) to aid or raise money for them. Hamas is on that same list (in fact, it has been on that list longer than Hezbollah).

And with the new Conservative goverment running the show in Ottawa, it is unlikely that this standing will change in the near future.

Trekkie,

have you seen this?

http://www.onthefencefilms.com/video/deadmeat/

Yes, KfK, I have. But I've also been waiting six years for a medical procedure here in the U.S.A. and could likely wait another 5-10 years still...

Please tell us what that is and why. If it is a transplant of some sort, then organ availability is your issue. Don't tell me that this country has waiting lists like Canada -- that is a huge lie.

If it is a transplant of some sort, then organ availability is your issue.

It is a transplant, but the issue isn't availability - it's stability and geography. I'm not sick enough to require transplant (though I am sick enough to require dialysis three times a week) and the state that I live in (Nevada) doesn't have a transplant facility, so I have to wait on a California list. California patients have priority over Nevada patients.

O'Reilly Rules -

'Jack Frost list to me 5 personal freedoms you had before Bush that you can't do now.'

Interesting... but why 5? Most people usually only ask for one. Were you afraid that I'd be able to find one or two (or more) and you wanted to make sure that at some point I ran out of ideas?

Well, let's see:

1. I've lost the freedom to civilly discuss political issues;
2. I've lost the freedom to travel abroad and not be ashamed of or villified for what my government is doing in my name;
3. I've lost the freedom to sleep soundly at night because I'm worried about what the Bush Crime Syndicate will do next;
4. I've lost the freedom to not have labels applied to me in order to cubbyhole my ideas; and
5. I am losing my freedom to not have my entire life be defined by how much money I'm accumulating.

Somehow, though I don't think this is what you were looking for. I think what you're asking is what RIGHTS I've lost since Bush stole office, which is a much easier and less snarky answer. Take a look at the Bill of Rights, the only two that haven't been revoked or severly impaired are Amendments II & III.

'I haven't lost any freedoms.'

Well, then you expose yourself as a middle-class white male. Don't worry, though, they'll be getting around to you in due time. Remember 'minorities' is a misnomer, there are quite a lot of them, it will take a bit of time to curtail their rights. Be patient, there's a cell waiting for you - in fact, you might even refer to it as your 'apartment' or 'house' currently.

'In fact is if freedoms were being taken away,
there would be death squads and people like you would be imprisoned.'

As I said, be patient, we'll all get our own prison cells soon enough if you keep carrying water for these criminals.

'So please stop regurgitating propaganda.'

I'm not sure what propaganda I've 'regurgitated' so I'm not sure what you're referring to. Something tells me you don't really know the meaning of that word...

'Name for the 5 freedoms you lost.'

Is this even English? You were obviously very agitated by something I said (that you never cited) and this hastily typed sentence pretty much proves it...

So tell me, name 5 freedoms/rights you've GAINED since Bush has been in office.

Good luck with that.

To Jack Fost,

'Well, then you expose yourself as a middle-class white male."

I'm Hispanic not White, so I don't get the point of this.

'As I said, be patient, we'll all get our own prison cells soon enough if you keep carrying water for these criminals.'

What evidence do have of this except propaganda from the Moveon.org/George Soros crowd! Where are these cells located?

'So tell me, name 5 freedoms/rights you've GAINED since Bush has been in office.'

That a very dumb question. The governement isn't in the business giving out rights, but upholding rights. However, since the assault weapon ban expired I was able to buy an assault rifle.

If Bush was serious about taking away freedoms Guns would be the 1st thing they would take away. Something people like Hillary Clinton and Chuck Shumer want to do, except for thrir hollywood buddies like Sean Penn.

As for this:

1. I've lost the freedom to civilly discuss political issues;
2. I've lost the freedom to travel abroad and not be ashamed of or villified for what my government is doing in my name;
3. I've lost the freedom to sleep soundly at night because I'm worried about what the Bush Crime Syndicate will do next;
4. I've lost the freedom to not have labels applied to me in order to cubbyhole my ideas; and
5. I am losing my freedom to not have my entire life be defined by how much money I'm accumulating.

You guys on the Left started this in the 90's by labeling Conservatives and Libertarians as Extreme Rightwingers or vast Rightwing conspiracy!What about George Soros's vast Leftwing conspiracy?
As for travelling abroad, I have and I don't care what foreigners think about this country. The Europeans need to be reminded that if we left NATO (which we should), the Russians or Islamo-Fascist would overrun that continent.
I've been to Israel and they're very grateful that finally, unlike when Clinton was in office, the US is standing up to Islamo-Fascist.
The point I'm trying to get at is that the Left thinks our government is the enemy, it's not. It's the Islamo-Fascists and Chinese.

Hey name for me 1 freedom you lost?
The reason I named 5 is because you can't even name one.

Get your facts straight and stop the propaganda techniques. If it's so bad this country why do so many people want to come here?
Answer that one!

Gee Jack Frost can't sleep at night because he thinks George Bush is going to send a hit squad over to his house and......I guess......nip at his nose? Oh well, You're honor, I rest my case.

Gee I've been to Canada and Ireland. Never was big into going into France. Didn't have a problem in fact some folks were asking me to help them get over here. You know that illegal stuff.

Hey, whats wrong with being a success and making money?

My taxes came down since W took the helm. SHHHHH! don't tell him I'm middle class. Ya know he's only in there to take care of his rich pals, I think he's slipping up somewhere. So I guess that would be a freedom gained.

But hey O.R.R. isn't it great that frosty was able to jack you because you missed a word in a sentence. WOW! to be perfect like Frosty. But, I don't know, being perfect. Frosty doesn't seem very happy.

Yes Puck, He's an itellectual giant!
He's surpassed Aristotle in thought and reasoning!
He's put Einstein to shame.
What an honor to have a genius like that on this board!
We should be honored!

Hey Puck, Jack Frost needs some sleeping pills so when Bush's death squad comes, he'll be sound asleep! Lol!

Hey Puck, Jack Frost needs some sleeping pills so when Bush's death squad comes, he'll be sound asleep! Lol!

O.R.R. Stop it! You're killing me!

O.R.R. Stop it! You're killing me!

Trekkie,

China will be willing to give you a kidney from an executed prisoner, but I think you have to go to Japan to have the surgery and it costs alot. On the plus side, the kidney you get is likely to be from a clean-living young political dissident or internet entrepreneur.

Other than that option, waiting is the only thing to do. Perhaps if more people signed organ donor cards or donated kidneys that would help. I sincerely wish you all the luck in the world.

Trekkie
I hope you get that transplant soon. That sucks the Dialysis stuff. God bless.

"No hits. It's just the misses that keep on coming. The mobile weapons labs we, quote, found, unquote, in Iraq, the ones the administration kept applauding itself for for months after Baghdad fell, not only weren't they mobile weapons labs, but the president knew they weren't mobile labs from the very start."
-- Keith Olbermann, 04/13/06

O'Reilly Rules -

'I'm Hispanic not White, so I don't get the point of this.'

No, no, no, see 'white' doesn't necessarily mean your skin color. It's more of an internal attitude and sense of entitlement that disallows one to take into consideration the plight of other human beings (well, ecept for other 'whites', that is). So, for instance, Condoleezza Rice and Alberto Gonzalez are 'white' despite their respective black and hispanic heritage.

'Whites' tend to go with the flow of whomever is in power, hence the reason they never see the persecution levelled against those who are in opposition.

'What evidence do have of this except propaganda from the Moveon.org/George Soros crowd! Where are these cells located?'

Y'know, the only thing I know about George Soros is that frustrated Bush supporters keep shoving his name in my face in a lame attempt to dismiss my opinions. I understand that he's one of the the central figures of the right-wing conspiracy theory that he and Michael Moore are behind all dissent in the country.

I mean, honestly, do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?

And I already told you where your prison cell will be: you're currently referring to it as your 'apartment' or 'house'. But that's for supporters, us 'dissdents' will be sent to the forced labor camps set up by FEMA (I can see you smiling as you read that, too). I'd provide you a link to the report, but you wouldn't look at it anyway.

'That a very dumb question.'

As was yours, I was just returning the favor.

'If Bush was serious about taking away freedoms Guns would be the 1st thing they would take away.'

No he wouldn't. They'll have to figure out where they'll replace all the campaign money they get from the NRA before they ban or confiscate weapons. This is the same with the anti-abortion movement, these two cash cows are far too lucrative to slaughter. So don't expect any real movement on either of these two issues until that cash flow problem has been worked out.

'You guys on the Left started this in the 90's by labeling Conservatives and Libertarians as Extreme Rightwingers or vast Rightwing conspiracy!'

'Started this', what? What are you talking about? I think you're becoming a bit delusional about the scale of your percieved persecution.

'What about George Soros's vast Leftwing conspiracy?'

That's a good question. So what about it? As I explained, I don't know much about George Soros, so perhaps you could fill me in on the details?

'As for travelling abroad, I have and I don't care what foreigners think about this country.'

And in this one sentence we not only have the proof that you are 'white' but also the underlying problem with ignorant Americans. But do you apply this equally? If someone of, oh let's say, Hispanic heritage tells you what he thinks about the country, do you ignore this person, as well?

But perhaps you're right. Maybe we should tell foreigners to shove it! I mean, fuck them, it's not like we have to share the same planet or anything! And we're manufacturing everything we need right here in the good ol' U.S. of A., we don't get nothin' from foreig...

...oh, wait.

'The point I'm trying to get at is that the Left thinks our government is the enemy...'

No, I don't.

I think the corporate war criminals who've STOLEN our government are the enemy.

'Get your facts straight and stop the propaganda techniques.'

What facts are you referring to? I was just giving you my opinions. And what propaganda are you talking about? Perhaps if I understood what you consider propaganda I might be able to curtail it's use in your presence, but you've gotta help me out and tell me your definition. Or, hell at least site examples from my posts.

Honestly, I'm beginning to think that this is your standard sign-off that you use to make yourself feel superior. You should tailor it a bit more since it clearly doesn't fit all conversations.

'If it's so bad this country why do so many people want to come here? Answer that one!'

Okay! One. More. Time.

This country is the greatest ever created, however, the corporate war criminals who've hijacked it from us are ruining it.

This country still holds a lot of promise, that's why people still come here and that's why we must take it back from these criminals.

'Jack Frost needs some sleeping pills so when Bush's death squad comes, he'll be sound asleep!'

Ew, yuck! This isn't even remotely clever. Come on O'Reilly Rules, I know you can think up better denegrations than this tripe.

puck -

'Gee Jack Frost can't sleep at night because he thinks George Bush is going to send a hit squad over to his house and...'

I'm less worried about what Dubya & Pals might do to me personally than what they'll do to the country as a whole (and by extention, the rest of the world).

'Hey, whats wrong with being a success and making money?'

Absolutely nothing. But that depends on what means said individual used to make the money and become successful.

But in a world where the end justifying the means is king, I don't expect you to comprehend the distinction.

'Ya know he's only in there to take care of his rich pals, I think he's slipping up somewhere.'

Probably one of the most honest sentences on this site. Kudos!

'But hey O.R.R. isn't it great that frosty was able to jack you because you missed a word in a sentence.'

He mistyped a sentence that had already appeared in his post. I then pointed it out because it was, in my opinion, an illustration of how agitated he was by something I'd said.

It wasn't just to make fun of his grammar.

'Frosty doesn't seem very happy.'

Actually my posts and opinions tend to be cheery, so I think this has more to do with projection of the mindset of the reader into my words.

"But in a world where the end justifying the means is king, I don't expect you to comprehend the distinction."

Here! Here! Truer words were never spoken.

To Frosty the Snowman aka the Marxist Aristotle,

You ignorant racist fool. How dare you question my Heritage. I'm a proud Latin and I marched at one of the immigration rallies. I know the history of my people. I want to say more but I don't want to be accused of Racism. What race are you, I know an a--hole!
Now it's personal between us. You know nothing about Latin culture racist Marxist scumbag! By the way, I'm mostly of Spaniard descent so I look white so the joke is on you! However I marched along side my Mexican brothers for their rights to be here. I'll take them over Commies like you any day of the week!
The fact is you still can't tell me what Liberties are being taken away! Why are so many people coming here?
Where are the death squads Commie?
George Soros is the guy behind Move on.Org, Media Matters and other Leftists organization that feed propagan to ignorant jerks like you!
You talk about taking this country back, what're you going to do start a revolt.
Go to cuba and get instructions from Castro or read Che Guevara's memoirs.
Oh that outdated, I have a betetr idea Aristotle!
Why not convert to Islam get a Zarqawi tee-shirt and strap bombs and blow yourself up you racist scumbag!

To Frosty the Snowman aka the Marxist Aristotle,

You ignorant racist fool. How dare you question my Heritage. I'm a proud Latin and I marched at one of the immigration rallies. I know the history of my people. I want to say more but I don't want to be accused of Racism. What race are you, I know an a--hole!
Now it's personal between us. You know nothing about Latin culture racist Marxist scumbag! By the way, I'm mostly of Spaniard descent so I look white so the joke is on you! However I marched along side my Mexican brothers for their rights to be here. I'll take them over Commies like you any day of the week!
The fact is you still can't tell me what Liberties are being taken away! Why are so many people coming here?
Where are the death squads Commie?
George Soros is the guy behind Move on.Org, Media Matters and other Leftists organization that feed propagan to ignorant jerks like you!
You talk about taking this country back, what're you going to do start a revolt.
Go to cuba and get instructions from Castro or read Che Guevara's memoirs.
Oh that outdated, I have a betetr idea Aristotle!
Why not convert to Islam get a Zarqawi tee-shirt and strap bombs and blow yourself up you racist scumbag!

To Jackoff Frost,
I wrote the above post Communist Islmao-Fascist loving scum!

FIELD AND STREAM

Rod and gun in hand, and backing the Second Amendment right to own firearms, President George W. Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have won the hearts of America�s sportsmen. Yet the two men have failed to protect outdoor sports on the nation�s public lands. With deep ties to the oil and gas industry, Bush and Cheney have unleashed a national energy plan that has begun to destroy hunting and fishing on millions of federal acres throughout the West, setting back effective wildlife management for decades to come.

'How dare you question my Heritage. I'm a proud Latin and I marched at one of the immigration rallies. I know the history of my people.'

Well, good for you. But the only problem is that I didn't question your heritage. What I did was explain that despite skin color, people can still be 'white'. You wrote this sentence that gave you away:

'As for travelling abroad, I have and I don't care what foreigners think about this country.'

Congratulations, you're 'white', your being Hispanic was ancillary to my point.

'What race are you, I know an a--hole!'

Yes, even the best of us can be an a--hole at times, so don't think you're an exception.

And what race do I belong to? That's easy: the human race. (Betcha saw that comin', dincha?)

'Now it's personal between us.'

Oh, is it? What exactly does that mean?

Can I come over to your house and watch Countdown with you? You wanna come for dinner at mine?

Oh, waitaminnit, you meant that as a threat, huh? Well, Internet Tough Guy, I can assure you that I'm quaking in my boots at the mighty characters you've placed upon my screen.

'By the way, I'm mostly of Spaniard descent so I look white so the joke is on you!'

Whaaa--?

I'm getting the impression that you didn't actually read my last post because this is just outta nowhere.

'However I marched along side my Mexican brothers for their rights to be here.'

And I'm very proud of you for doing so. With the policies this government is attempting to float, immigrants will need all the help they can get.

'The fact is you still can't tell me what Liberties are being taken away! Why are so many people coming here?'

Actually, I answered both of these questions. You glossed over them entirely, which is why you probably don't remember my answers. Just scroll up a little, you'll find both of my responses. Now whether or not you accept my answers is a different thing entirely.

'Where are the death squads Commie?'

Last I checked, they were in Iraq.

'You talk about taking this country back, what're you going to do start a revolt.'

Of course. but please keep in mind that not all revolts require physical violence.

'I wrote the above post...'

Yes, yes, I was well aware of that.

To Go Jerkoff on Frost,
The fact is your an aragont racist jerk. So your now calling our troops death squads. I have 2 cousins in Iraq and it's people like you they hate reading about. When they come back they're going to organize against commies like you! You know what, go to China or Cuba and find out what death squads are all about. But since they're Leftist governments you'll probably like it there! The very fact you can speak out about this government means you're imaginary illusions of dictatorship are false.

You stilll haven't told me what liberties you lost.Your 5 examples are stupid. If you can't sleep well because you think Bush's non existent death squads are coming for you, I recommend getting Psychiatric help! If that don't work try sleeping pills, Liquor or Weed. That should work.
Or do us a favor use all those substances together!
As for the immigration issue, Bush is on the right side of this one. Say what you want about him but he's the most Pro-Hispanic president the US has had. He regularly praises our culture and understands it unlike racists like you!
If you hate Bush, wait until Giulliani comes to power then you'll see what a dictatorship could be like. Until then sleep well and don't let the Bush Criminal Syndicate get you.
I heard they BCS has an agreement with space aliens to allow disenters to be shiped to the moon!

O'Reilly Rules -

'The fact is your an aragont racist jerk.'

At some point, you'll have to learn that repeating something over and over again does not make it so.

And, one last time, the definition of 'white' I was attributing to you has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. I never said one derogatory thing about Latinos, although I can tell you really wish I had.

'So your now calling our troops death squads.'

Uh, actually I never said one way or the other, you just assumed. All I know is that when morning comes each day in Iraq, they are finding 60+ Iraqis executed and dumped in various locations.

Now who's actually behind these executions is anybody's guess. I sincerely hope it's not our troops.

'I have 2 cousins in Iraq and it's people like you they hate reading about.'

Oh, I'll bet. I'm sure they are infuriated by those of us that want them to come home from the illegal businessman's war of first resort at taxpayer expense in Iraq.

'You stilll haven't told me what liberties you lost.'

Again, yes I did, but you glossed over it.

The first 10 amendments to the Constitution are called the Bill of Rights, besides Amendments II & III, the rest have been severly curtailed or out-and-out revoked by the U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act.

Try not to miss it this time, 'kay?

The rest of your scattershot, near incomprehensible rant is beneath us both.

Jerk Fraud,
The Patriot act hasn't taken away any liberties, what world are you in! You're a an Islamo-Fascist sypathizer and you're still free! How are Amendments 1 and 4-10 watered down explain that to me? I guess not only are a racial expert but also a Lawyer.
You are the Voltaire of our times. A pure philosophical giant!
Also can you give me the locations of thses secret government camps 007!
If you have proof why not fax them to Al-Jazeera USA(Keith Olbermann) and he'll expose it.
Not only are you an great legal expert and Intellect but also a great spy too.
Hey tell me when you plan to have this revolution.
My 2 cousins in Iraq told me when their tours are up and they return home they are going to counter protest you traitor and if need be physically confront you guys. They told me alot of soldiers feel that way. So since you're so paranoid of a Fascist regime, you might get it, from our own military that can't stand people like you!
I heard Karl Rove is in cahoots with Martians to build a Death Star. Is this true?

To Whomever Said This -

'"But in a world where the end justifying the means is king, I don't expect you to comprehend the distinction."

Here! Here! Truer words were never spoken.'

I forgot to thank you for the props, sorry 'bout that.

Cheers, mate!

O'Reilly Rules -

'The Patriot act hasn't taken away any liberties'

Yes, it has.

'How are Amendments 1 and 4-10 watered down explain that to me?'

Why, so you can throw another tantrum when you don't like my response?

No thanks.

'You are the Voltaire of our times.'

So now I'm Marx, Aristotle, Einstein AND Voltaire?

C'mon, even you can't be that proud of your ignorance.

'Also can you give me the locations of thses secret government camps 007!'

They're not secret, you just don't know about them, there's a difference. And what's the point of providing you with information when it's clear that whatever I offer you'll be belligerantly opposed to based simply on the fact that it's coming from me.

Grow up a bit and maybe we can have this discussion.

'Hey tell me when you plan to have this revolution.'

It's happening right now, all around you.

But by having your head buried in the sand, you might not be able to hear this rising tide.

'My 2 cousins in Iraq told me when their tours are up and they return home they are going to counter protest you traitor and if need be physically confront you guys.'

The only thing that frightens me more than you, Internet Tough Guy, are your 2 cousins in Iraq.

Good luck to them in having their tours actually end at a point that doesn't involve them coming home in a flag-draped coffin in some cargo hold.

'I heard Karl Rove is in cahoots with Martians to build a Death Star. Is this true?'

Dunno.

But I do know that Karl Rove is such an underhanded, despicable bastard that I wouldn't put anything past him.

woe, Jack Frost nipping at your nose, O'Reilly Rules.

-- And Now For Something NOT Entirely Different --

OK, ya gotta check this one out, it's pretty wild.
http://www.bushflash.com/idiot.html

Jack Frost,
I'm not no internet tough guy.
During the Republican convention in NY that sunday, me and about 50 of my friends countered protested your ilk. We then began to pelt the with eggs and even beat a few of them up before the cops broke it up.
Since we had a freind who was on duty in the area and he told us where he would be, The protesters we beat up were arrested not us.
Leaving we saw some people with Anti-Israel sign, my girl is Israel, we proceeded to beat them up.
We also broke a beer bottle over someone's head with a Michael Moore shirt and beat the shit him.
All in all I back up my writings.

Last summer, I live in Florida now, I heard about some Cindy Shithead sympathizers having a rally.
Me and some of my Cuban and Redneck buddies pelted them with eggs and beat one of them up badly, it made the news.
No arrests since the cops who broke it up agreed with what we did.
I enjoyed every minute of confronting Leftists.
At the pro-immigration rally last week I went to support, I punched someone with a Che Guevara shirt, but that was broken up.

The point is Jack Frost is that there is a counter movement against you Leftists and we're prepared to crash any Leftist protest with force if neccesasary

Also growing up in NY, I grew up in the hood OK.
I lived through the crack wars of the late 80's early 90's and have 2 stab wounds to prove it. I also served in the Army 1994-1999.

When I got the Army I me and my buddies crashed a Neo-Nazi rally and beat at least 3 of them up!
In fact there was one recently in Orlando and I was planning to crash it but other things popped up.

The fact is I dislike Leftists and Nazis and don't mind fighting them.
If my cousind come back in body bags my anger is directed at Islamo-Fascist who did it, not my country. I would take out my anger at a Mosque or an Islamic consulate from one of those ccountries.

So Jack, the above post should tell you I'm not an internet tough guy.

sheesh

Sorry Rob,
\elete the above post if you want. I just lost it for a second!

The FBI hasn't called me yet!

O'Reilly Rules -

'I'm not no internet tough guy.'

Oh, yes you are.

'During the Republican convention in NY that sunday, me and about 50 of my friends countered protested your ilk.'

This is interesting. In light of the fact that you've made attempts in previous posts to claim that you don't support Bush (and by extension his Republican cohorts) how exactly were you 'counter protesting'?

Did you even have an opposing viewpoint for these people? Or was it simply the heft of your truncheon that did the talking for you? That's not a counter-protest, that's called 'assault', and judging by this post, assault seems to be something you enjoy.

What a neanderthal.

Stomping around the city randomly bashing people you don't agree with and then hiding behind your 'freind who was on duty in the area'.

You're a real big man, Internet Tough Guy.

'Me and some of my Cuban and Redneck buddies...'

Do rednecks even socialize with Cubans? My uncle lives in Florida and is a bit of a redneck, so last time I visited, and he had the rest of his redneck friends over, they constantly bashed Cubans. So, I'm a little dubious of this claim.

'I enjoyed every minute of confronting Leftists.'

You didn't confront one single person! You just attacked random people to enforce what seems to be a rather vague, hostility-laden agenda.

You're a tiny, tiny little man Internet Tough Guy.

'I punched someone with a Che Guevara shirt...'

To a certain extent, I agree with this (well, not the punching part) because chances are that the person bought this shirt from a corporation who is not using the money to help free oppressed people, like Che would've wanted.

'The point is Jack Frost is that there is a counter movement against you Leftists and we're prepared to crash any Leftist protest with force if neccesasary'

Well, not being one of your so-called 'Leftists' I guess I'm gonna miss out on having you attack me.

What a shame, I haven't had a good ass-kicking in a while.

'In fact there was one recently in Orlando and I was planning to crash it but other things popped up.'

What, like typing posts on OlbermannWatch?

'If my cousind come back in body bags my anger is directed at Islamo-Fascist who did it, not my country.'

Perhaps you shouldn't direct your anger at so-called 'Islamo-Fascists' OR at the government, but instead toward the corporate war criminals that sent them there on a raft of lies to profit from their deaths. Just a suggestion.

But, since you seem to be the king of misplaced aggression, Internet Tough Guy, I'll understand if this concept is beyond you.

'So Jack, the above post should tell you I'm not an internet tough guy.'

You're right, Internet Tough Guy. How could I ever have misjudged you so?

" I marched along side my Mexican brothers for their rights to be here."

I don't have a problem with opening up our country to greater immigration. I have no problem with Mexicans or "Hispanics" or any foreigner wanting to come here. I don't believe that there being "12 million" illegal immigrants in the U.S. has any particularly meaning as to whether we have too many or too few immigrants because no one has told me the number of immigrants we SHOULD have. I have sponsored workers on HB-1 visas, sponsored applications for Green Cards, sponsored visa applications and have many friends and acquaintences who are in the country illegally. I'd love to see them and their families stay and not have to worry about being deported.

And I'm glad you exercised YOUR First Amendment rights.

What I don't get is how that applies to a citizen from a foreign country and since when Mexican citizens have the "RIGHT" to come to America?

No one has a "right" to be in the United States except American citizens.

You just revealed your ignorance. Not all rednecks hate Cubans there are some like your trailer park trash family, But there are those who share the same political views as them so they make common cause. As to those Rednecks that mock Cubvans, They're just mad the Cubans came here made money and live better than them so tough!
So you're family background explaims your racist thinking.

Frostbitten,
Che Guevara was a murder. He executed and took people's home in Cuba. You just revealed yourself calling him a freedom fighter. Commie

Jack Frost,
Why don't you convert to Islam and do us a favor, blow yourself up!

O'Reilly Rules -

'You just revealed your ignorance.'

No, I revealed I have an uncle who's a bit of a redneck and that he and his redneck pals would often talk poorly of Cubans.

Your little story of them working together sure sounds like a mound of feces, though.

'So you're family background explaims your racist thinking.'

You don't know anything about my family background except that I have an uncle that lives in Florida.

And you'd probably do yourself a favor by not calling other people racists in the midst of ranting about 'Islamo-Fascists' and such...

...I mean, haven't you heard the cliche about people in glass houses?

'Che Guevara was a murder.'

Yes, I know he was murdered.

And your point?

'He executed and took people's home in Cuba.'

I think you've distorted this enough already.

'You just revealed yourself calling him a freedom fighter.'

Uh, actually you keep bringing him up.

Jack Frost,
What's your movement's plan's for governing?
Please enlighten us genious!

'He executed and took people's home in Cuba.'
'I think you've distorted this enough already.'

He did, he killed inocent people that had nothing to do with Batista's regime. He was power hungry and mad.

Sanjay - don't be shy...

Even though you are in Iran, this is America and if you want to shout "death to America" on this site go right ahead. Afterwards, for fun, go outside your office and sing "I Love Rock and Roll" and let me know what happens.

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Robert,
Sanjay wants to see whta his Marxist buddies like Jack Frost are saying defending his pathetic country.

Robert,
Sanjay wants to see whta his Marxist buddies like Jack Frost are saying defending his pathetic country.