Olbermann didn't even mentioned the suicide bombing in Egypt? That doesn't suprise me.

Okay I can figure out why his obsession with Bill O'Reilly is off the charts but, Whats up with Tom Cruise?

By the way I came up with a new term for Olby-Loons, we could have a medical condition here. Try this......they suffer from.......O.D.S......
Yep!......Olby Derangement Syndrome!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do ya think???????? It's where one thinks something that happen two, three, hell ten years ago. Should be relevent today. Or an Overload of Olby-Speak. Please anyone could there be a cure?

Don't worry by the looks of his ratings we don't have to worry about a pandemic.

If Olbermann did mention the Egypt bombings he would cliamit was Karl Rove doing it to distract the 10 people who care about the Scooter Libby case.

Puck,

The Tom Cruise fetish is related to a few things:

1. Cruise is a success and Keith hates him for it
2. Cruise said shrinks and antidepressants suck, and Keith felt personally insulted. You see, Keith loves his shrink and in the Olbyverse, every comment and event is directed at Keith. I believe Keith thinks Cruise insulted him first).
3. Cruise is an easy target and Olby loves easy targets
4. Cruise is good looking and Olby hates him for it
5. Olby is a jerk who loves to put people down.

Seems to me Cruise is a basket case, but beating up on a guy with mental problems is an assholian thing to do. The fact that Keith is himself a mental patient is no excuse.

As for Keith's complete lack of interest in any reality-based news (terrorism, progress in Iraq etc.) I would expect nothing less. Olbermann thinks there is little difference between sports and news. To him it is all a game. One of my favorite quotes fits well here:

"Life is a dream for the wise, a game for the fool, a comedy for the rich, a tragedy for the poor."

you problem with sites like this is that they are read by idiots and written by idiots.... you, a$%hols, at least try ....

Let's see the site is read by idiots."Liberal" read the site so...well you can figure out the rest.It is self-evident that the last poster far from being a liberal employs the time honored Joe McCarthy method of painting everyone who reads this site with the same brush.

I disagree ideologically with 90% of the posters here but the purpose of it is great.It is to expose the giant ego obnoxious nature of Olberman. I have yet to read and waiting to challenge anyone who defends him as a journalist.

I don't know Eddie Kay. Liberal sounds more like a centrist with issues

Eddie Kay or anyone else: Do you guys consider Rush or my namesake a journalist? I want to get an idea of what you consider jounalism before I consider Eddie's challenge.

Has everyone heard about the sexual harassment charges leveled at Maury Povich? I wonder if Krazy Keith will take the same guilty until proven innocent stance with his fellow lib loon and co-worker that he did when similar accusations were made against Oreilly.

O-rules,

I don't consider either of them journalists. They're commentators. Neither of them are out in the field hunting down a story. They pull things out of the MSM, Internet, etc. and discuss it, usually from one point of view. But neither O'Reilly or Limbaugh paint themselves as journalists.

KO on the other hand thinks he is the next Murrow or Cronkite, when at best he is John Stewart, only less funnny and with less grasp of the news.

If President Bush's number ever get as low as KO's then he will be in trouble.

Great synopsis, Scott of who Olby thinks he is and who he really is. On the few occasions I have been able to stomach his fraudulent blather, he has reminded me of another loony bomb thrower (and former sports commentator) Bryant Gumble. Like Gumble, he is known for a repellant personality and a dedication to promoting liberal dogma with lies and misinformation. I guess the main difference between these two is that KK has an extra dimension to his personality that makes him even more unwatchable(!)-- his penchant for drawing back the curain and sharing with viewers the creepier aspects of his personal life (hiring a private eye to track down the teacher he had a crush on in high school--yuck!!!)

I Am the Liar
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I am me and Rummy`s he, Iraq is free, and we are all together
See the world run when Dick shoots his gun, see how I lie
I`m Lying

Sitting on my own brain, waiting for the end of days
Corporation profits, Bloody oil money
I`m above the law and I`ll decide what`s right and wrong

I am the keg man, I'm the Decider, I am the Liar
Koo-Koo-Kachoo

Baghdad city policeman sitting pretty little targets in a row
See how they die when the shrapnel flies see mothers cry
I`m Lying

Yellow cake uranium, imaginary WMDs
Declassifying facts, exposing secret agents
Tax cuts for the wealthy leaving all the poor behind

I am the keg man, I`m the Decider, I am the Liar
Koo-Koo-Kachoo

His friends include kook Charlie Sheen
Chuck’s 9/11 comments were mean
Opened mouth and he shat
Another crazy moonbat
Like chief left-wing loon Howard Dean

Good synopsis as usual, JD.

To add another to the catalog of journalistic sins, Olby and producers use incredible leading questions a majority of the time.

So far, I got this list:

1. Incomplete journalism: the non-barking dogs that never make it from prime time to Countdown.
2. The incredible leading question!

I'm trying to figure out whether ingratiating intro and farewells should could the list as well...

Not that there's anything wrong with being ingratiating. It's just when and how much...

He scrapes out his life as a talker
In the lens he stares like a gawker
Quite a strange creature
He tracked down his teacher
His shrink diagnosed him a stalker

Your reference to Mary McCarthy's attorney as a "slip and fall lawyer" demonstrates your utter disregard for facts in an effort to spin your position. Her laywer is a Harvard/Georgetown grad, a former US Attorney and his online bio describes his current work as:

"He specializes in a broad range of criminal and civil enforcement work and is widely recognized for his experience representing high ranking government officials and domestic and foreign corporations in Congressional investigations and other sensitive matters. He has also represented many of the world's largest corporations or their senior executives in securities, compliance and corporate governance matters."

I doubt he's ever handled a slip and fall case, and if he did, he probably defended against the claim.

Do you bother to do anthing akin to research before you regurgitate this dreck?

You would have been closer to the mark by making reference to his name, Ty Cobb, and Olbermann's love of baseball (gotta be a connection there) or you could have made fun of him for his cheesy handlebar moustache.

Go back to listining to Mark Levin (where you probably got that pithy insult from in the first place).

McCarthy was fired a week prior to her retirement and she denies admitting to being the leaker of any info.

Sounds like another self-serving administration lie revealed.

Here we go, Next thing we will hear from this Hit and Run smear merchant is George Bush stole Mc Carthy's pension plan and gave it to Tony Snow.

We may not ever learn the full truth of what Mary McCarthy did or didn't do. The CIA's record of late is less than perfect. While it is (highly) likely the Administration had influence in starting the search for leakers from CIA, I doubt the White House really had anything to do with her firing in particular.

I find it terribly hard to take anything Ms. McCarthy might say at face value. She has admitted that she had unauthorized contact with reporters. That alone, even according to such objective 3rd parties as Andrea Mitchell and John Dean have acknowledged that on Countdown(for those that might have missed it , the use of the word "objective" in that sentence was sarcasm).

Whatever she may or may not have discussed with them, she knew the contact was in violation of her signed agreement with CIA. It seems she now is trying to cover her own tracks, maybe hoping to spin this to look better for her and increase the sales of her inevitable book.

Keith Olbermann is just a loser!

the administration needs to create the appearance of firing leakers for the midterm elections, whether that is true or not. and given how many times this admin has lied about its foreign and domestic affairs, it\'s probably 50/50 whether the story\'s true.

As per Andrea Mitchell's report, the slip-and-fall lawyer insists McCarthy "did not leak classified information".

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from findlaw:

Mr. Cobb is the Director of the White Collar Crime and Investigations Practice Group and the Securities Enforcement Practice Group at Hogan & Hartson L.L.P. He practices principally in the areas of white collar criminal litigation, securities law, Congressional investigations and complex civil litigation. He earned his undergraduate degree from Harvard College in 1972 and his law degree from Georgetown University Law Center in 1978.

Mr. Cobb is a Fellow in the American College of Trial Lawyers and is profiled in Best Lawyers in America, Who’s Who in the World and International Who’s Who of Business Crime Lawyers. He is a member of the D.C., Colorado and Maryland Bars, the International Bar Association, the American Bar Association and the Judicial Conference of the United States Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. He is admitted to practice before the Supreme Court of the United States.

Mr. Cobb worked as an Assistant United States Attorney before holding a series of supervisory positions with the Department of Justice, including Chief of the Criminal Division in the United States Attorney's Office in Maryland and Mid-Atlantic Regional Coordinator for the President's Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Force. Mr. Cobb has been lead counsel in over 50 criminal and civil trials in United States District Courts and has appeared frequently before United States Courts of Appeals. He specializes in a broad range of criminal and civil enforcement work and is widely recognized for his experience representing high ranking government officials and domestic and foreign corporations in Congressional investigations and other sensitive matters. He has also represented many of the world's largest corporations or their senior executives in securities, compliance and corporate governance matters.

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and yet he still finds time for all those slip and fall cases..

I believe McCarthy failed a lie detector test. I'm also not shocked that her lawyer says she is not guilty.

It is about time that the Bush administration take out these Al Qaeda operatives from Plame to McCarthy that were stuck in CIA and the State Department during the disasterous Clinton years.

Right on Scott

I wonder how many calls she's gotten for book deals yet? Hell, they gave Olby one! By the way, who is Olby's publisher, D.C. comics?

How much money did McCarthy and her husband give to the failed Kerry campaign? And why didn't Olby mention this during his little watched telecast?

Goss is Bush`s lackey at the CIA. Most career spooks hate Georgie`s lying chicken-hawk guts, and with good reason. There`s been a war behind the scenes between career state department/intelligence professionals and the neocons for decades, and this is just more of the same. The question is: who do you believe? Hmm ... let`s see, who`s been lying ever since he took office?

Al Qaeda operatives from Plame to McCarthy that were stuck in CIA and the State Department during the disasterous Clinton years.

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Al Qaeda operatives?? God, you are an idiot. I don't know when plame began working for the CIA but as to McCarthy:

McCarthy began working for the CIA in 1984 as an analyst for Africa in the Directorate of Intelligence. She served as the Deputy National Intelligence Officer for Warning from 1991 to 1994 and as National Intelligence Officer for Warning from 1994 to 1996.

from the post article:

The CIA program’s original scope was to hide and interrogate the two dozen or so al Qaeda leaders believed to be directly responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks, or who posed an imminent threat, or had knowledge of the larger al Qaeda network. But as the volume of leads pouring into the CTC from abroad increased, and the capacity of its paramilitary group to seize suspects grew, the CIA began apprehending more people whose intelligence value and links to terrorism were less certain, according to four current and former officials.

The original standard for consigning suspects to the invisible universe was lowered or ignored, they said. "They’ve got many, many more who don’t reach any threshold," one intelligence official said

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How dare this women devote 20 years of her life to our country and then have the courage to expose that our country is trotting people around the globe for torture on taxpayer dimes.

Were Ty Cobb defending someone like Scooter Libby against charges connected to a CIA-related leak, then Keith no doubt would have given us a fuller background history on the original Ty Cobb because in Keith's mind, anyone who would link themselves to the former Tigers' star would be just the type of person who would defend Scooter Libby (personally, I don't care if McCarthy is defended by Ty Cobb, Hank Greenberg or Al Kaline, but if she signed a confidentiality agreement when she returned to employment with the CIA and did offer up classified information to Priest or others for public release, she needs to face the consequences of her actions).

PATRIK: "It is about time that the Bush administration take out these Al Qaeda operatives from Plame to McCarthy that were stuck in CIA and the State Department during the disasterous Clinton years."

We have the greatest system of all time, NSA, to protect us from Al Quida communications. Why would McCarthy be busted for the stated reason that she failed a lie detector test, when the proper headline should be: CIA employee busted for being Al Quida operative!

I think McCarthy being an Al Quida operative would be just the thing to get the old Bush trumpets blaring about his finding of this traitor.

This would prove that NSA is indeed the greatest invention since the wheel.

Why isn't our furher bragging about this?

When you have people at CIA, Plame and McCarthy who do not have the guts to fight the Islamists but instead wish for the bad ole days when we treated it like a liquor store hold-up and they lose not once at the polls but three times. (See McCarthy's contribution to the failed Kerry campaign for examples.) Then you see why they must undermine the policy of defending the nation by leaking to the Washington Post and other discredited liberal outlets.

Plame for example had to send her clueless lying husband to Niger to drink tea and comeback with a tale we now know thanks to the documents uncovered in Iraq was false. They lose at the ballot box but believe that Bush is worse than Osama so they try treason instead of democracy. And when they are caught they scream "fuhrer!". The moonbat left's stupidity and complicity know no limits.

`disasterous` clinton years is a joke. under clinton the U.S. had a better economy, lower deficit, smaller federal government, and vastly improved foreign relations. Bush is the disaster, reversing all those gains. we`ll be cleaning up for years the messes he`s made in the deficit, military, foreign relations, and the middle east.

Clinton had excellent relations with Osama Bin Laden which explains the four attacks on the United States during the Clinton administration with no response other than to blow up a tent and an aspirin factory.

Reagan and Bush-senior had the excellent relations with Osama Bin Laden -- funding his insurgency against the soviets in Afghanistan and fueling both his rise to power and al Qaeda`s.

Wrong oh moonbat one. OBL was actually funded by the Saudis though he came late to the battle. The U.S. funded the Northern Alliance groups of Afghan freedom fighters. The ones who helped us in 2001 get rid of the Taliban. You remember the Taliban the people Clinton ignored.

Patrick: Again, are Plame and McCarthy Al Quida operatives? This is a simple yes or no question.

RE: Liarinchief
If you had used Armed instead of Funding, you would have been 100% correct. Saudies Funded them, we Armed them.

We didn't arm him either, another moonbat fantasy. Clearly Plame and McCarthy were Al Qaeda sympathizers, it will take a more complete investigation to find out who in the Bin Laden organization was actually their pay masters.

We didn't arm him either, another moonbat fantasy. Clearly Plame and McCarthy were Al Qaeda sympathizers, it will take a more complete investigation to find out who in the Bin Laden organization was actually their pay masters

and of course you have proof of that.

Monday's Countdown found Keith Olbermann with his own unique spin on the fired CIA operative: she's been railroaded! She really didn't leak, and she really didn't flunk the relevant portions of her polygraph. Of course, if she flunked any part of her polygraph, that's pretty strong evidence that she is a liar, but Olby chose not to follow that line of reasoning. All of this based on Mary McCarthy's denials? Umm, not exactly. It's predicated on the word of her attorney

Who cares if she did leak? the American people have a right to know when their governemnt officals are out of control running secret prisons. She should be given a medal.

Of course we don't know if the prisons even exist, the EU has been looking for them and found none. This Al Qaeda operative may have leaked a proposal that never saw the light of day. If so then she is both a traitor and an idiot.

That's fine by me as long as Scooter Libby is afforded the same treatment. The American people have a right to know when government officials are engaging in nepotism while running secret investigations.

Of course we don't know if the prisons even exist, the EU has been looking for them and found none. This Al Qaeda operative may have leaked a proposal that never saw the light of day. If so then she is both a traitor and an idiot

if the prisons don't exist then it's not a leak but a fabrication.

O-Rules, As for being a journalist, Scott's comment just about sums up my feelings.I don't like O'Reily period, but at least he he doesn't think he is something he is not. I don't watch him but I seriously doubt if he uses that "my producers made me do it" mantra. That in itself makes stupid people think that he is above the tabloid fray and is serious when he is the laughable idiot. Stewart knows he is a comedian,Cosby knows she is a celebrity gossip,O'Reily knows he is a lightning rod but Olberman THINKS he is something.

Last night was a good example."they made him" do Cruise but who "made him" spend time on the Elvis non-story? So he could giggle and "swing and sway" Anyone claiming he is a journalist, reporter,commentater or anything but an obnoxious fool should start with that view of him last night and argue from there. My challenge still holds.

O-Rules, As for being a journalist, Scott's comment just about sums up my feelings.I don't like O'Reily period, but at least he he doesn't think he is something he is not. I don't watch him but I seriously doubt if he uses that "my producers made me do it" mantra. That in itself makes stupid people think that he is above the tabloid fray and is serious when he is the laughable idiot. Stewart knows he is a comedian,Cosby knows she is a celebrity gossip,O'Reily knows he is a lightning rod but Olberman THINKS he is something.

Last night was a good example."they made him" do Cruise but who "made him" spend time on the Elvis non-story? So he could giggle and "swing and sway" Anyone claiming he is a journalist, reporter,commentater or anything but an obnoxious fool should start with that view of him last night and argue from there. My challenge still holds.

This has been bugging me for awhile, and I think I have it pegged. Krazy Keith asks a question exactly like the "Church Lady" of SNL fame aka Dana Carvey. Church Lady would ask her infamous leading question:" could it be....Satan?" and then screw her mouth off to one side. The deplorable orange-hued one DOES THE SAME THING! I watch him do this every night, and the more leading the question, the more 'church-lady' his face is. While I'm at it, hey Olbermann, that "Ted Baxter" voice sounds more like you than you know. It sounds nothing like O'Reilly or Limbaugh or any of those others you use your single utility funny-voice for. It sounds quite a bit like you however. Oh Keith of the droning monotone, listen to yourself and stop the lame gag.

`There is a fundamental moral and ethical difference between someone who leaks information in order to serve the public good and someone who authorizes leaks only for the purpose of saving his sorry political ass.`

Olbecmonblowme is a friggin joke. Are there people that actually think this goof is a journalist?

All this talk about Mary McCarthy is awesome.

It's going a long way to distracting everyone from another CIA agent who should've had more of a spotlight: Tyler Drumheller. I think Olbermann mentioned him in this broadcast, but I can't remember for certain - if he did, then kudos are in order because everyone else is ignoring this story.

I mean, why waste time on a high-level CIA agent spilling the beans on the Bush administration's pre-war intelligence manipulations? It's not like he's backing up what we already knew from the Downing Street Memos or anything. Let's move on, already.

Oh, and speaking of leaks, who thinks it rocks that Condoleezza Rice is alleged to have leaked classified info to AIPAC? Surely, there's nothing to this story and it's just a witchhunt, not more evidence of a systematic pattern of high-level deceit in the Bush Administration...

And lastly, anyone who pointed out that even if McCarthy leaked information, it was about illegal activity so she should be commended, should be commended themselves. Anyone having the opposing view, well, you can start calling me moonbat anytime now.

But it won't change the fact that leaking classified info about illegal government activities is not a crime, or that leaking classified info to undermine a critic is.

And here's to Rove eventually getting an indictment of his very own!

Cheers!

> leaking classified info about illegal government activities is not a crime

I don't have to call you a moonbat. You labeled yourself. Can you site a legal citation for this principle of law, or did you just MAKE IT UP?

Moonbats say......

Scoter Libby leaked. Should be thrown in jail along with Rove, Chaney, Bush.

Moonbats say......

Mary Mc Carthy leaked. Should be awarded a medal, book deal, parade.

The kool-aid flows free on the "Big Rock Candy Mountan."

'Can you site a legal citation for this principle of law, or did you just MAKE IT UP?'

No, not really, it's just inside me.

When the people who run the government are doing illegal things, anyone in a position to do so has the duty (bound by the Constitution, in fact) to blow the whistle.

Every document that shows evidence of these crimes should be layed out to the light of day and everyone involved should get a free trip to the Hague and a long, long prison stay (I'd rather they lived with their crimes than were executed).

End. Of. Story.

You see Johnny, they're committing war crimes (I assume you know what those are?) so no one should be protecting the secrecy of those crimes.

It's all very easy to fathom, really.

> anyone in a position to do so has the duty (bound by the Constitution, in fact) to blow the whistle.

How interesting. When Bush claims he is entitled by constitutional powers to gather intelligence on the enemy, you guys claim no he's not, he has to obey the FISA LAW!

But when it comes time for a "whistleblower" to expose "illegal things" (not so found by any court, but never mind that minor detail) all of a sudden the law is irrelevant. They can commit a felony and it's OK.

Never mind the fact that someone who wants to "blow the whistle" has a recourse path that is set out in the law, and it doesn't include giving away state secrets to the press. Anyone who claims to be a whistleblower and who doesn't follow that law is a thief, and maybe even a traitor. But not a whistleblower. Try reading HR 3694, Title VII, so that next time you will know what you are talking about.

Again, there are proper proceedures to be a "whistleblower." That means she should have gone to someone with oversight responsiblity, like maybe, oh, I don't know, her BOSS THE IG? Not to a reporter, in direct violation of her the law, her contract, and CIA policy.

The whole reason the IG is an independent agent is so that he is not under the authority of the CIA. Failing that, she could have gone to the Senate or House Intelligence Committee. That would have been the correct way to handle the issue.

Well, Well, Well, Look at monday's numbers.

18-34

O'Reilly: 364

Zhan: 222

Grace: 208

Olby: 165

Total

O'Reilly: 1,959,000

Zahn: 832,000

Grace: 589,000

Olby: 448,000

Bill O'Reilly still 4 times the viewers!!!

Can we just rename Meltdown, FOR MOONBATS ONLY!

LAST PLACE ACROSS THE BOARD FROSTY!

Tony Snow said you could fit all of Olby's freinds in a phone booth. Soon we will be able to do that with his viewers.

BRAVO SCOTT!

Wow, you are all morons. Don't you even know that polygraphs are not admissable evidence in court proceedings BECAUSE THEY DON'T PROVE ANYTHING. The only thing they do is measure your heart rate, which can be raised by any number of things. Anyways, that was only in the first paragraph of this site, which makes this one of the worst sites I've ever read. You should probably do some research before you continue writing this bogus crap, unless your only goal is to attract viewers of the O'Reilly Factor or whatever that crappy show is called. Oh, and by the way, she never, NEVER admitted to leaking any information about the CIA prisons. So it looks like you were wrong about that, too, bud. You're stupid. Or possibly very smart by exploiting all the stupid people who actually believe this shit you write. Get a life losers.

A moron is someone who cannot read. What the article says is:

"if she flunked any part of her polygraph, that's pretty strong evidence that she is a liar"

Get a clue. When you flunk a polygraph that IS EVIDENCE of lying. THat's why they make the machines. Who said anything about it being admissible in court?

> She never, NEVER admitted to leaking any information about the CIA prisons

How do you know? Did you talk to her? On the other hand, she hasn't denied that she flunked the poly, and that she was fired, and that she did confess to SOMETHING. Only a moron doesn't see all that as pretty good evidence that she's a liar. Creepy liar!

If she flunked any part of the polygraph it proves nothing what I bleive the gnetleman who called you a moron was saying is that polygraph's are not admitted in court because they are very falliable. They measure your heart rate and perspiration the idea being if you are lying you will get nervous and show signs of it. Since many other facotrs like believing someone is conducting a witch hunt can get your nerves up. if she flunked the whole polygraph it really means nothing if she passed the whole polygraph it really means nothing.

After over 25 years in law enforcement I can tell you that when someone takes a polygraph, flunks it, then changes their story, that is what I called it in the first place: pretty good evidence that they lied. If you think it means nothing then you have to wonder why so many people confess after flunking. I'll bet you've never been present at a polygraph examination, let alone adminstered one.

Here is Oble's show:

Monday night bash Bush
Tuesday night bash Cheney
Wednesday night bash Rove
Thursday night bash Libby
Friday night bash O'Reilly

I think Olbe secretly has the hots for O'reilly. He seems to be obsessed with him. I wonder if he fantasizes about him too? No wonder Olbe is at the bottom of the cable tv news ratings heap. He probably enjoys all those other guys on top of him though.

'How interesting. When Bush claims he is entitled by constitutional powers to gather intelligence on the enemy, you guys claim no he's not, he has to obey the FISA LAW!'

As ever, Johnny, you are a master of the Straw Man argument (it seems Robert also has a flair for them).

You are comparing apples and oranges, and I think you're well aware of it, too.

Bush is spying on Americans without a warrant and is violating our rights - you can obfuscate all you want, but it will never alter this fact. That Guy They Keep Telling Us Is President can claim all the Constitutional powers he likes, but he is still not above The People. If he legitimately needed to spy on an American, the FISA court would most likely grant him authority, if for nothing else based on the fact that the court has almost never turned down a request in its history. Please, don't give me any shit about the time frame for the court's decision being too slow because I think we're both well aware of that being a false premise. And to top all that off, Bush is not blowing any whistle by spying on Americans.

If McCarthy did leak anything about secret prisons, and so far that's beginning to look like a big 'IF', then she IS blowing the whistle. What the men controlling our government are doing is illegal, both domestically and internationally (you seem like a reasonably intelligent person, so I can't see any way that you don't understand that). And, as such, any information pertaining to these illegal activities cannot remain classified as it should be part of a public investigation, and, if it warrants, public prosecution of the criminals. It's a very simple process. And I think we're all well aware of what happens to people who reveal 'secrets' in this administration, so spare me the lecture on going through 'proper channels'. The administration you're defending doesn't even understand the concept of 'proper procedure', this argument is a charade.

So, to sum up: the Bush Administration is illegally spying on Americans and rendering prisoners to secret prisons (where they are no doubt tortured), which is also illegal. IF McCarthy blew the whistle, she is reporting one of these two crimes, the secret prisons.

Apples and oranges.

'Anyone who claims to be a whistleblower and who doesn't follow that law is a thief, and maybe even a traitor.'

Any Bush Administration defender who throws this around apparently needs to be reminded of glass houses. You need to quit while you're ahead.

But honestly what's most interesting to me is how you avoided every other point I made in my initial post to focus on just the McCarthy leak, which like I said, is just a distraction. And if you're as predictable as the rest of your tersely written comments, and if you even respond at all, I'll peg you to go with a deflection. You'll say something that amounts to not accepting my premise(s) due to your belief that I'm a 'moron' or a 'moonbat'. And now that I've said that, you'll reply like last time with something sassy like: 'Well you said it, so I don't have to.' Yawn.

C'mon, Johnny, tell me why you don't wanna talk about Condi joining the leak club, or Tyler Drumheller or my personal favorite, Rove's impending indictment - even to just debunk it.

Please, don't be boring.

puck -

'...medal, book deal, parade.'

I don't recall saying anything about any of that, and it actually sounds like a bit of an exaggeration on your part. All I'm saying is that IF she leaked anything at all, and it was about illegal activities, then yes, she rocks - your attempt to smear her prematurely notwithstanding.

'LAST PLACE ACROSS THE BOARD FROSTY!'

Uh,... why was this directed at me?

I don't even care about the ratings for shows I really like, much less ones I only catch occasionally.

And what are these numbers supposed to be telling me, exactly? Where do they even come from?

And what are there, two whole sets of stats? That's hardly 'across the board'.

Olbecmonblowme -

'I think Olbe secretly has the hots for O'reilly. He seems to be obsessed with him. I wonder if he fantasizes about him too?'

What an interesting allegation coming from someone whose very moniker is asking a man for oral sex.

Oh, the irony!

Could someone on the rightwing fringe explain O'Reilly's preoccupation with secularism?

Here is the definition.

Worldly rather than spiritual.
Not specifically relating to religion or to a religious body: secular music.

maybe we should eliminate that from our society alltogether. I have never trusted people who don't belong to a religious body. We could be like afghanistan and execute people for being other than the offical state sponsered religion. We could set up a news network to push reigious agenda. (I mean other than fox news) We can have prayer in schools. (Only from the king James bible of course)

Could someone on the rightwing fringe explain O'Reilly's preoccupation with secularism?

Here is the definition.

Worldly rather than spiritual.
Not specifically relating to religion or to a religious body: secular music.

maybe we should eliminate that from our society alltogether. I have never trusted people who don't belong to a religious body. We could be like afghanistan and execute people for being other than the offical state sponsered religion. We could set up a news network to push reigious agenda. (I mean other than fox news) We can have prayer in schools. (Only from the king James bible of course)

`I have never trusted people who don\\\'t belong to a religious body.`

spoken like a true unworldly moron.

Bush's brain continues to squeal like a pig.

(WASHINGTON) - MSNBC, AP, Fox News and CNN have confirmed an NBC report that Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove will be testifying -- under oath -- for a fifth time in the investigation into the outing of CIA officer Valerie Plame.

Sources close to the case say that Rove is cooperating with the prosecution and may have provided the prosecutor with information that led to the White House turning over hundreds of pages of previously `missing emails.`

Rove met with attorneys to prepare this morning.

"spoken like a true unworldly moron"

Infidel! You will burn in the lake of Fire!

Jack Frost--
Sorry you are so agitated that you did receive a full treatise from JD in response to one of your posts. Maybe this is because you are a rank amatuer. Any person who is asked to produce statutory authority for a dubious legal defense to criminal conduct by stating that it is "inside me" shows their mettle as a mental midget and deserves to be summarily dismissed.

can you fix my car hank?

I say that I don't trust people who hide behind their religion for their answers.

'hank' -

'Sorry you are so agitated that you did receive a full treatise from JD in response to one of your posts.'

Hmm, I never said I was agitated - just another case of the reader projecting his own mental state into my words - I said I found it interesting that he avoided the rest of my post, and focussed on just one subject.

I then went on to say that I thought he'd avoid responding by using the exact tactic you just employed.

Congratulations, you're a tool.

'Maybe this is because you are a rank amatuer.'

Ranked against whom, exactly?

'Any person who is asked to produce statutory authority for a dubious legal defense to criminal conduct by stating that it is "inside me" shows their mettle as a mental midget and deserves to be summarily dismissed.'

Remember what I said about you being a tool? That's twice in one short post in which you've displayed this tendency.

Face it, you're not addressing Condi's joining the leak club (and hopefully the indictment club, too), Tyler Drumheller revealing that the Downing Street Memos are accurate or Rove's impending indictment because no one's come up with the proper talking points yet to help you dismiss all this.

That's why you make an ad hoc attack on my character rather than address the issues.

Prove me wrong.

`Face it, you`re not addressing Condi`s joining the leak club (and hopefully the indictment club, too).`

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Condi -- who dropped the 9/11 ball as NSA headmistress, membered the WH Iraq Group whilst it played the Plame game, straight-faced the `Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.` PDB testimony, and was fingered by the AIPAC lobbyists for leaking classified info -- is likely to lose her least-corrupt-in-the-cabal crown.

zionist -

'Condi... is likely to lose her least-corrupt-in-the-cabal crown'

Yeah, like she ever really had it in the first place.

She's only the most invisible member of the cabal at this point, at least here in the States, not necessarily the least corrupt.

Did you see all the protestors in Greece?

Indicative of the warm welcome she receives wherever she goes.

Hey Jack Frost

'Bush is spying on Americans without a warrant and is violating our rights - you can obfuscate all you want, but it will never alter this fact.'

Damn right I am. I know everything about you Jack. I have people following and watching you. Keep running your mouth and you'll disappear one day. Don't mess with me!

Robert Cox,
If you are going to continue trying to portray yourself as a credible person and critic, you need to track the IP of poster "George W. Bush" and turn it over to law enforcement authorities IMMEDIATELY!
Threats like that are illegal, and creepy. It's clear that some of your followers are not emotionally stable. It's immoral for you not to report them. You can never be taken seriously when you attract and allow this kind of crap. I bet Keith Olbermann would have the common decency to report it.
We already know that you like to keep tabs on the posters here, and have those capabilities, because some have publicly accused you of stalking. Or do you only do that to women who disagree with you?
If anyone who agrees with me knows how to figgure out who OlbermannWatches server is, or how to find out, you should report this to them ASAP!

I think that might have really been the president posting.

George W. Bush -

'Damn right I am. I know everything about you Jack.'

Oh, do you?

Well, then you probably know that I've been studying you and your family history for some time now, correct?

You probably know that I've found out that the Bush clan fortune largely comes from your grandfather, Prescott, having been part of Fritz Thyssen's financial system that made Nazi Germany possible.

You probably know that I found out that the US Justice Department under the Trading With the Enemy Act seized Prescott's Union Banking Corporation in 1942.

Talk about skeleton(s) in your closet!

I know you don't like to read, but you should check out Fritz's book 'I Paid Hitler' (originally published in 1941, then reprinted in 1972) if you want to know more. But then again, you could just ask your dad, since he was 18 at the time, he'd probably have some interesting recollections.

Speaking of your dad, we could go on for some time with what I've discovered about the myriad crimes of the father, but since you've been monitoring me, you should already know what I've learned. But again, don't take my word (or your surveillance) for it, talk to your father.

Go ask your dad about Zapata Oil and the Bay of Pigs Thing, be sure to have him give you the lowdown on his pal E. Howard Hunt, too. Ask him why he can't remember where he was or what he was doing when Kennedy was assassinated. Go ask him why, as a Senator, he held a Congressional hearing on population control on August 5, 1969 in which he delineated the 'threat posed by black babies' (by the way, I hear Bill Bennett has a solution to this 'threat'). And be sure to get him to spill the beans on his role in Iran-Contra (that story's a hoot AND a holler).

Due to your surveillance of me, you're probably aware that I know about your brothers too. Neil Bush and his S&L scandal fun, Jeb pulling all sorts of strings as governor of Florida to make sure your theft of the election in 2000 was possible (although, isn't he kind of a failure considering the Supreme Court had to illegally install you?), and, my favorite, Marvin being on the board of Securacom, the firm that provided security to the World Trade Center, Dulles Airport and United Airlines before and on September 11, 2001.

And then there's you.

Draft-dodger extraordinaire, miserable excuse for a businessman, horrible, horrible governor and then the public face of the corporate crime syndicate that helped you steal your way into the White House. And then kept you far from the action as they prepetrated the events of September 11, 2001 so they could achieve the political climate they needed to get Americans to go along with the lies that sent us into Iraq. The same people who told you to authorize torture of prisoners whose guilt has not yet been proven. And the same group that now wants to invade Iran, using nukes if possible.

How sad that all this 'terrorism' bullshit you espouse is actually just a cover for the fact that the dollar is failing worldwide. Bet you're pissed that I figured that out, huh? Probably even more pissed that I'm telling other people.

The threat posed by Iraq, Iran and Venezuela is simply the fact that they intend to dump the dollar as a reserve currency. Iraq actually even managed to do this for a short time, which is the actual reason you invaded, of course. The first thing you did was capture the oil fields and the Oil Ministry and changed the transactions back to dollars from Euros, effectively tanking 17% of the country's monetary value in the process. Iran is threatening to open it's own bourse, which is why you've threatened to invade them as well. The fact that your handlers are contemplating nuclear strikes shows that you are very desperate indeed. Iran has sideline seats for the proof that you will never be able to take their country any other way.

Your 'handlers' and their financial backers have gamed the system to brink of collapse and are now using force to try and shore it up. All the while enacting policies that suck as much money up to the top in preparation for the dollar's imminent decline.

So, you got anything on me better than any of that?

I know you don't.

bluecaller -

Great post.

I'm not 100% convinced, but I'm pretty sure if you tracked down the poster calling himself George W. Bush, you will find none other than Robert Cox himself.

Cheers!

Jack Frost--

Don't look now Jack but GWB's "corporate criminal syndicate" is going to be checking on you just as soon as they're done shredding all the documents showing how they "perpetrated the events of September 11, 2001".

Frost, you are a joke. You post stuff like "all this 'terrorism' bullshit you [President Bush] espouse is actually just a cover for the fact that the dollar is failing worldwide" Newsflash: No rational person believes this stuff.

I can just as easily say "Harry Reid opposes ANWR drilling because he has a secret plan for his home state of Nevada to annex Alaska and claim the mineral rights for themselves so they can rake in enormous cash windfalls and build the new gold domed DNC headquaters in Las Vegas." Then I can (like you) challenge anyone on this site to prove me wrong. Then when no one steps forward to prove a negative (that Harry Reid has no such plan) I can use the Jack Frost method of argumentation to declare that I am right since no one has "proved" me wrong. But the truth is, my statement about Harry Reid is patently false in the first place because it is absurd.

Just as your statement is absurd I hate to break this to you Jack, but the "worldwide falling dollar" is not the reason we are fighting the GWOT. It would be interesting if you could provide your sources for your "worldwide falling dollar as a basis for the President going to war theory." Give some supporting evidence and tell why this theory is entitled to be given a shred of credibility.

I think it is possible to have a debate about the
decision to send troops to Iraq, but not with someone who has gone over the cliff like you. And if you want to complain that I haven't addressed the rest of your laundry list and have resorted to attacking you, tough! You are not a responsible voice so I have no compunction about labelling you. Go back to your (moon)batcave!

Jack,
I think you're on to something. These guys here just want to play "gotcha" but only have O'Reillys overly simplified, self-serving talking points to play with.
Hope Cox gets back soon, so we can get us some more of them clever labels.

Blu-

Did you read Jack's post? It's not hard to play "gotcha" with stuff like that. Let me ask you a question. Do you remember the Clinton years when there were some Clinton foes on the fringe that came up with the Clinton Chronicles, a film that alleged that Clinton was financing a secret drug running operation though the airport in Mena, Arkansas? Believe me, there is plenty to go after Clinton about, but conservatives didn't need to be shooting themselves in the foot by getting behind wacky stuff like this. Many conservatives did but I never bought into that stuff. I don't think the term kool aide drinker was in vogue at that time, but that's the kind of person who subscribed to that stuff. Jack Frost is the purveyor of Clinton Chronicles type material only on the other end of the spectrum opposing George W. Bush. What's sad Blu is that your party has been taken over by these types in the persons of Howard Dean, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan and John Murtha. That's why the elections results have gone the way they have for the last 6 years and, in spite of their recent woes, the voters are going to return the GOP back to Congress because they don't trust the libs to run the country and more specifically the GWOT.

Anyway, enough on that. I think Mr. Man Tan is almost returning to pale face status. Time for another dose of orange tint!!!

is possible to have a debate about the
decision to send troops to Iraq, but not with someone who has gone over the cliff like you. And if you want to complain that I haven't addressed the rest of your laundry list and have resorted to attacking you, tough! You are not a responsible voice so I have no compunction about labelling you. Go back to your (moon)batcave!

Posted by: hank at April 29, 2006 12:35 AM

You re an idiot hank

`What`s sad Blu is that your party has been taken over by these types in the persons of Howard Dean, Michael Moore, Cindy Sheehan and John Murtha`

well at last count, and by a 2-to-1 margin, most americans prefer those folks to the faith-based, corrupt, republican incompetants who can`t see the truth-on-the-ground reality and vote for invasion, occupation, rendition, torture, and the rollback of civil rights in the name of unconstitutionally expanding executive power, dumbshit.

.........

`in spite of their recent woes, the voters are going to return the GOP back to Congress because they don't trust the libs to run the country and more specifically the GWOT`.

keep on dreamin`, shit-for-brains.

To heck with Olbermann, many people would be interested in seeing MSNBC air an investigation of the apparent murder of Joe Scarborough's intern in his office.

That is pure speculation and total crap, you looney leftist moonbat traitor. Turns out Joe only screwed her AFTER she was dead.

`Conservative MSNBC news host Joe Scarborough was a guest on MSNBC`s Imus show last Thursday, May 29. In complementing Scarborough on his sense of humor, Imus said, `Don`t be afraid to be funny, because you are funny. I asked you why you aren`t in Congress. You said that you had sex with the intern and then you had to kill her.` To which Scarborough laughed, `Yeah, ha, ha ha, well, what are you gonna do?`

As a degreed journalist with 20 years of experience, I normally research everything thoroughly before I comment on it, but I got such a laugh out of being called a moonbat, that I decided to use that name, unresearched, to sign up for this awful website. I don't care if it means Slut in a Monkey Suit, it's funny. Thanks Dave.

Since my topic was more suited for an anti-Joe Scarborough website, I won't comment on it further here, other than to note that the most info I've been able to find on it is at http://www.larryflynt.com/notebook.php?id=17
and, although I admire Flynt's fight for total free speech, I'd like to have a more reputable source.

hey, if ya`ll are into flaming honest speakers who tell the truth to power (and if you frequent this site on the right, then i know you are) now you losers can start www.colbertwatch.com.

i`m sure you`ve heard by now, but saturday night truthiness expert Stephen Colbert ripped dimwit Bush a new a--hole, right to his little fascist face. CSPAN will be rebroadcasting it all this week.

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/4/30/1441/59811

Hopefully this Scarborough talk is just a joke I'm too tired to get.

You do realized its a Gary Condit joke, right?

http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html

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