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MSNBC finally found to place to put Keith Olbermann's ratings-black-hole-of-a-show where it will actually be an improvement in their current line up. Repeats of Countdown will begin airing next week in the "coveted" 9:00 AM - 10:00 AM ET time slot. Eternal optimist and MSNBC President Rick Kaplan writes "we're going to give our morning viewers a chance to sample a program they may not have had the opportunity to watch" as if MSNBC has morning viewers. I'm pretty sure McEnroe got bigger numbers on CNBC than MSNBC gets in that time slot and his show usually "scratched".
Long-time MSNBC watchers know that a trip to the dayside lineup is usually the death knell for a show and with less than a year to go on his contract that can be seen, at best, as either a desperate attempt to advertise the show or, as ICN noted, a pure cost cutting move.
Here's the details...
Inside Cable News is reporting that MSNBC Rick Kaplan has made it official:
Starting next week MSNBC will be switching Live and Direct and Scarborough Country's timeslots. Also, the Countdown re-airing is happening starting next Tuesday. Rick Kaplan sent out an internal memo this morning announcing both move...
I'm happy to share with you some news about a primetime schedule adjustment we're going to make beginning next Monday. Rita and Joe are going to switch timeslots. Joe will move an hour earlier to 9pm and Rita will take his place at 10pm. Both Rita and Joe have great programs built around their unique personalities and this change will support their continued growth. We’ve had a lot of ratings growth this year with Chris and Keith and I'm confident that this change will improve our audience flow and allow us to extend that momentum to the second half of primetime. Tucker will continue to round out our primetime lineup at 11pm.
Also, beginning next Tuesday, we're going to give our morning viewers a chance to sample a program they may not have had the opportunity to watch. Countdown will get an additional re-air at 9am on weekdays. It is, after all, a program about "the stories you'll be talking about tomorrow," so it should be a natural fit."
that's a stretch.
ICN had some thoughts before it became official:
I’m skeptical of this story because on so many levels this is a bad idea that it makes the likelihood of this happening seem too remote to contemplate. It’s bad enough that MSNBC can’t compete directly with FNC and CNN in the mornings with live news because Imus is on. To delay the start of live news to 10 am further underminesMSNBC’s credibility as a cable news network. The only reason I could
see this happening is as another budget cutting move; spurned on by NBC Entertainment’s dive in the ratings and resultant loss of advertising revenue. And there have been plenty of those cuts at MSNBC already. We’re long past the “trimming the fat� stage at MSNBC. Now the marrow is getting gutted.
That would be the slot that Ron Reagan had with Monica Crowly. I suspect they are following the Comedy Central format of re-running last night's show to build viewership for the upcoming show.
I think your speculation of moving the show to that slot is nothing more than truthiness.
"Common sense tells us the war in Iraq soon will spread to Iran. Fear of imaginary nuclear weapons or an incident involving Iran-- whether planned or accidental-- will rally the support needed for us to move on Muslim country #3. All the past failures and unintended consequences will be forgotten.
Even with deteriorating support for the Iraq war, new information, well planned propaganda, or a major incident will override the skepticism and heartache of our frustrating fight. Vocal opponents of an attack on Iran again will be labeled unpatriotic, unsupportive of the troops, and sympathetic to Iran�s radicals.
Instead of capitulating to these charges, we should point out that those who maneuver us into war do so with little concern for our young people serving in the military ..."
And to think, I was all excited to see his show was re-aired at 1 or maybe it was 2 AM this morning!
MSNBC has taken note of the fact that KOs audience is building rapidly and there is a lot of buzz about him.
I pray to God they have the sense to get rid of hacks like Matthews, Scarborough, and Carlson, and replace them with progressive or at least neutral hosts that posess Keiths unerring sense of journalistic integrity.
Thanks for keeping his name alive here!
Next on MSNBC daytime, the Gunther-Renky Hour!
Was wondering what nutty cons were using to trash Keith Olbermann, I have to say I'm not disappointed. Make fun of his ratings, this stupid website is devoted to him, how pathetic does that make you? As far as I know, he's the only guy on TV that is putting out a point of view contrary to everyone else in the right-wing run media. On Fox news they mute out the boo's Dick Cheney got from 40,000 fans when he threw out the first pitch at the Nationals home opener. News, doctored to protect your political point of view. BTW, O'Reilly's ratings have declined 50% against KO.
Was wondering what nutty cons were using to trash Keith Olbermann, I have to say I'm not disappointed. Make fun of his ratings, this stupid website is devoted to him, how pathetic does that make you? As far as I know, he's the only guy on TV that is putting out a point of view contrary to everyone else in the right-wing run media. On Fox news they mute out the boo's Dick Cheney got from 40,000 fans when he threw out the first pitch at the Nationals home opener. News, doctored to protect your political point of view. BTW, O'Reilly's ratings have declined 50% against KO.
> O'Reilly's ratings have declined 50%
Don't try to post your Olby talking points here. You can't get away with it. In 2004 O'Reilly had 2,413,000 viewers. Last week his viewership averaged 2,211,000. Is that a decline of 50%. NO IT ISN'T, LIAR!
> On Fox news they mute out the boo's
Another lie.
> he's the only guy on TV that is putting out a point of view
Finally a germ of truth. Krazy Keith IS putting out a point of view. ONE point of view. That's why it's The Hour of Spin.
"MSNBC has taken note of the fact that KOs audience is building rapidly and there is a lot of buzz about him."
What???
According to TVNewser's "Program Ranker", Countdown's ratings averaged 404,000/164,000 in the demo. Haven't they been approximately those amounts, for like forever?
Where is this vast increase you speak of?
I think J$ is right; MS is one step away from selling Ron Popeil appliances during the day. The ratings probably would be better. This is yet another bonehead maneuver by NBC. Who wants to see yesterday's news? I think those NBC Universal guys are intentionally trying to kill MSNBC. Well, they watch FNC anyhow, so what do they care.
I have a different take on things. If you are trawling for lazy fish, you put your baited hook in front of their noses.
The average Olbermann viewer is the 18-54 year old socialist. These creatures are most often seen in front of their televisions for most of the day. They emerge at night to blog, commit crimes and attend Star Trek conventions. The clever move, the cynical and brilliant move, is to just ignore conventional wisdom and put the show on at 9AM.
KfK
You are a funny Kfker - "They emerge at night to blog, commit crimes and attend Star Trek conventions"
KfK, you forgot to add, "and update Wikipedia entries."
Oooohhhh...such searing wit! I am so impressed that you got so far down this thread without inserting an O'Reilly Kool-Aide drinking funny line.
The level of discourse here makes it obvious why you guys hate Keith Olbermann. You poor folks don't have a large enough vocabulary or high enough IQs to understand what the hell he's talking about, because he refuses to dumb things down enough for you
(except the pop sickle stick theatre and Worlds worst person segments).
And when you're making fun of his hairline, skin tone and other physical attributes, why don't you ever mention his size 14 feet? Could it be because we all know what big feet are reputed to indicate? Are you feeling a little "inadequate" in your size 7 1/2 bunny slippers?
Yeah, Olby fans tend to be like Jack Frost.
Delusional, paranoid Che Guevara wannbe types!
Back to reality for a sec, but how is this the "first step out the door" for Olbermann? If anything, it's a vote of confidence. Granted, his overall ratings suck, but he's beating CNN in the advertiser friendly demographic, which, when you're MSNBC, is good news. I think MSNBC is going after the same viewer who watches "The Daily Show" at 10am.
That being said, and adding the fact that I am a fan of "Countdown", I think this move reflects very badly on the network. A so-called news network is running a 12-hour old newscast?
What a stupid move.
If this is 9:00 AM EDT (presumably) it would be taking away from the beautiful (and expecting) Amy Robach. But Crowley/Reagan was Noon Eastern, not 9:00 AM.
"Delusional, paranoid Che Guevara wannbe types!"
Wow. And I thought Jannine Garrafallo was obnoxious and embarrassing with her pseudo-psyche diagnosis' routine. Do you guys only know how to resort to name calling in your frustration? Gee. Wonder where you learned that if you're so busy watching the erudite Keith Olbermann at 8 P.M. EST.
OK, blu, we'll open up the floor to make fun of Olby's alleged clown feet if it makes you happy. He never removes his feet from behind his anchor desk to go cover stories in the field like a real news reporter, so that's why we've never seen them. Maybe he'll be photographed at a baseball game. Perhaps his Olbyfan galpals could help us out with this one.
I thought you guys were all riled up about the wiki-pedia entry for him. It's right on that page, if you'd bother to read what your leaders are telling you to complain about.
Hey! last friday KO got beat total viewers by a three week old O'Reilly......A THREE WEEK OLD BILL O'REILLY RERUN!!!!!!COULDN'T EVEN PULL 1/4 OF BILL'S NUMBERS THAT NIGHT.....A three week old O'Reilly rerun......THATS BAD.....THATS TERRIBLE!!!!!THATS BAD....REALLY BAD.......Couldn't beat a three week old O'Reilly rerun.......THATS BAD!
Okay Steeley sez...
O'Reilly has lost 50% of his ratings to KO. Well how is that when KO couldn't pull 1/4 of Bill's numbers to a THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY SHOW LAST FRIDAY???? Well maybe steele went to a public school with outcome based education. Yeah thats it 1+1=3 right Steele?
Right on Blucaller!! These idiots who continue to put Keith down and continually refer to him as "deplorable" could never fill his shoes, either physically or mentally.
Kuddly Keith's writing style is way over their heads. I'm so sick of the religious right-wing conservatives who dominate most talk shows. Keith is a wonderful breath of fresh air. If I want hard news I'll watch something else but if I want the news combined with wit, humor, an unusual take on things delivered by the intelligent best looking, sexiest man on TV, I'll watch Countdown. Keith rules!!! And he can put his Size 14s under my bed anytime!
So all of you here on the anti-Olbermann bandwagon, are you aware that this site is merely intended to be one big joke?
From the wikipedia discussion page, posted by RCox1963:
***Spentangeli - I can assure you that Olbermann Watch is NOT a \"personal vendetta\". I\'m going to make a leap and assume you are \"Spaghetti Legs\" on that site, you must realize that most of what I write is written with tounge planted firmly in cheek. If you don\'t then woe is you.***
So who is the joke on more? The wingnuts who bought into the raving and drooling or the moonbats who attempted to counter it?
So let me get this straight.
On Monday morning you'll get to see a Meltdown rerun from Friday that if it was like last Friday, get beat by a THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY RERUN! Now if KO can't get 1/4 the numbers of a THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY RERUN. Well what can they expect against a Gunthy/Ranker/Winsor/Palates infomercial?
I mean the show was bad enough on the first run Friday that it couldn't beat a THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY RERUN!! What does Kaplin think? Meltdown will get better with age? Wine? yes. S**t? NO! A THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY RERUN.....THATS BAD!.....THATS VERY VERY BAD!!!!
Now really
It's 9:00 a.m. E.S.T.
You wake up in the morning and turn on the t.v. What would you rather see Daisy Fuentes? Or, the man with the orange face?
Okay one is a rerun and one is a rerun............THAT GOT BEAT BY A THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY RERUN!!!!!!!!!THATS BAD......THATS REALLY BAD.....NO WAY TO SPIN IT....THATS BAD.
So how are we going to know if KO is beating Jerry Springer in the Morning? I know when you start to see lots of 1-800-lawyers comercials on KO's show.
Talking about Springer, I just got this bad vision. 300 pound double-wide trailer queens pleasuring themselves to "The Man With the Orange Face"! Hey Keith you may have found you're audience! I feel yucci I have to go take a shower. Good Night All!
I forgot to add 300 hundred pound double-wide trailer queens pleasuring themselves with household appliances to "THE MAN WITH THE ORANGE FACE!" Yep, Springer doesn't stand a chance.
Ya know Rita Cosby is very smart to have it writen in her contract not to be moved to 11:00 P.M. Against a Bill O'Reilly same day replay. Hey, look what happen to Keith against a THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY RERUN!!!!!! THATS BAD.....THATS REALLY BAD!!!!!!
So how is MSLSD going to show this in it's promos. Start you're day with Prune Face and Orange Face? Yeah, I see the breakfast connection. And you should start you're day with Fruit. And now throw in the nuts watching this. Alright the FRUIT AND NUT CONNECTION! A balanced breakfast.....FOR LOONS!!!
Monday's numbers
O'Reilly: 2,424,000
Blabberman: 511,000
So what's that about 1/6 of Bill's numbers? Thats worse then 1/4 right? Gee to bad it wasn't a rerun. Maybe Keith would have gotten better numbers. THATS BAD.....THATS REALLY REALLY BAD!!!
What's really going to be fun is hearing all of Imus' comments about Keith following him each morning on MSNBC.
You guys are getting REALLY funny! Love it.
"why don't you ever mention his size 14 feet? Could it be because we all know what big feet are reputed to indicate? Are you feeling a little "inadequate" in your size 7 1/2 bunny slippers?"
"Start you're day with Prune Face and Orange Face"
I would make a joke about size fourteen feet but, I just feel I would desecrate the good name of Bob Bell (Chicago Bozo). Ah what the hell, All Keith really needs is the Red Hair and a Red Nose. He's already got the orange makeup! To go along with the size fourteen feet. Mr.Cox maybe you could get the art dept. to post a picture what that might look like. If you look around the net you can find the Bozo theme music. Hey a lot of folks think of Springer as a freak show. Why not one more in the Morning. Because Keith could never have the talent of the Great Bob Bell!!! "The One, The Only, BOZO!!!! Damm those days were great! Living in Chicago, Workin' nights, waking up to Bozo, Noon News, Cubs Baseball on WGN! Damm that was Utopia! Then reality and winter came. The lights came to Wrigley, And they moved Bozo to Sundays. Hangin' out on Rush st. never felt the same.
Hey!
It's nice to see Sherry Star back. And I'm sure she is happy to see Keith going on in the mornings. Sherry is a DJ that works nights I think she said in the midwest. I wonder if she lives in a Trailer Park? In a DOUBLE WIDE? ( insert landscaping sound here)
I think we'll stick with the Where's Waldo theme.
Good lord!
With MSNBC devoting weekends to constant repeats of Headliners and Legends, and now giving the morning news hours to Imus' show and Countdown repeats, is it accurate to call them a news channel anymore?
As far as Countdown goes, isn't this a sort of backward David Letterman scenario? Does MSNBC really think that college students are tuning to the television at that hour or that Olbermann will appeal to the mothers of infants and toddlers?
"I mean the show was bad enough on the first run Friday that it couldn't beat a THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY RERUN!! "
Fox News could broadcast a test pattern vs Olberbite and still get 6x the viewers.
"The Man With The Golden Face"
(circa 1974)
Follow this link to sing along!
http://www.handsonus.com/hdemo/demo1100/1145dem0.mid
He has a foul weapon
Charges a penny a shot,
An assassin that's a real disgrace,
The man with the golden face.
Lurking in some darkened studio,
Crouched under a desk somewhere,
In the next room, or this very space
The man with the golden face.
Hate is required whenever he's hired,
It comes just before the kill.
Noone can catch him, no hit man can match him
For his slanderous skill.
One poison word and another innocent victim,
Has come to a bitter end,
For a price, he'll erase facts, names and place
The man with the golden face.
His eye may be on you or me.
Who will he harangue?
We shall see. Oh yeah!
`According to Washington insiders, White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan could be the next official to leave the Bush administration. McClellan says he`d like to spend more time lying for his family.`
they`ll just get another obsfucation expert in there ... the white house has already approached FauxNews liar Tony Snow.
deck chairs on the titanic ...
And how many press secretaries did the Clinton gang go through?
Fauxnews how original, where did you come up with that one? It's so original! I've never heard that before? You must be a writer! A writer for a famous cable news anchor. A writer for a famous news show on cable......THAT GOT BEAT BY A THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY RERUN LAST FRIDAY!!!!!!LOL....LOL....LOL....LOL...LOL..LOL!!.WOW! Got beat by a three week old O'Reilly rerun.........THATS BAD!....THATS REALLY BAD!...NOPE!!....DON'T CARE HOW YOU SPIN IT......THATS BAD!!!
Really when you get to think about it. You try to put on the best show you can. You're boss says you're the best show on cable. Loons put up web shrines to you. And then a few days later you find out you got beat by a THREE WEEK OLD O'REILLY RERUN!.....THATS BAD....THATS REALLY BAD!!!!!
`And how many press secretaries did the Clinton gang go through?`
wow, the folks at this site are really big on non-sequitors.
it ain`t the change, or lack thereof, it`s the lying. McClellan, like his boss the anti-christ-Bush, is the worst ever for flat out lying to the press and deceiving the american people. even worse than the infamous Ron Ziegler.
Why is it that so many "different" Olby defenders all use the exact same misspelling of "non-sequitur"???
many worsts:
worst president ever.
worst vice president.
worst congress.
worst corrupt majority.
worst environmental policies.
worst election fraud.
worst cronyism.
worst congressional oversight.
worst lawbreakers.
worst war profiteering.
worst war.
worst FEMA.
and stay tuned, `cause the hits just keep on comin` ... these guys can still screw up plenty in the next three years: bird flue, hurricanes, iran, north korea, deficit spending. happy, happy, joy, joy.
Hey Puck!!
Would you believe that I indeed did live in a trailer at one time? Yes, it was while our huge house was being built. Also we developed and built a 14 acre mobile home park in N.C. Sold it for a tidy profit too! Rag on me all you want for this, it was an interesting experience and could also lend itself to a pretty interesting book! Ahhh, the characters I met. Perhaps one of them was you Puck!
I said I USED TO BE A DJ!! Right now I'm busy writing a book. I think my second book will be devoted to Kuddly Keith with nothing but pages and pages of his handsome face.
Maybe all of you need a color adjustment on your TV because from where I sit, Keith looks gorgeous and I am positive he does NOT wear a rug!
To whoever made fun of Olby fans on the misspelling of nonsequitur, I would keep quiet. If I had a penny for every misspelling or grammatical error in this forum I would be a rich woman!
Kuddly Keith rules!!!
so many corrupt republicans ... so little time ...
WASHINGTON -- A Washington watchdog called on the Justice Department today to begin an official investigation into whether Texas Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) received bribes from a San Fransisco defense firm in exchange for supporting earmarks that benefited the company.
Citizens for Ethics and Responsibility in Washington filed the complaint Wednesday. The group has `filed` repeated ethics complaints before -- but the complaint against sessions was filed with the Justice Department, instead of simply being announced publicly. Ethics complaints must be filed by a member of Congress; Justice Department complaints can be made by anyone.
The group`s complaint also alleges that Rep. Sessions had substantive ties with disgraced lobbyist Jack Abramoff.
so many corrupt POLITICIANs, so little time. man, they\'re all crooks. have you seen the pork barrel lists lately?
Some corrupt, some not. Same as anything.
Wow Sherry Star is writing a book about Keith. I'm impressed! So this will be Fiction right?
Puck!!!! You're so funny!! I'm sure you don't misread everything that is printed. ( Or do you?) If I wrote a book about you Puck I would call it the Wit and Wisdom of Puck and you can bet your life THAT would be fictional!!
Just as Keith would hate to see O'Reilly leave the airwaves because of all the material he gives him, you would hate to see Keith leave. Then what would you do? Maybe get a life?
Sherry Star
Oh so you're gona write about me? Boy I'm really impressed! I guess it will be fiction like most liberal books are, writing about a subject you don't know anything about. So, just make it up. Hey, I've never known a looney lib to let the facts get in the way!
See you already have it wrong. It's all the out of context material that Media Matters provides Keith with. Not O'Reilly.
Oh, and lets remember numbers:
Monday's total viewers:
O'Reilly: 2,424,000
Olbermann: 511,000
OUCH! Poor Baby! Ya know I don't see you're boy climbing.
Oh and let's see this no life bit. Well, I've been blessed to live in different parts of the U.S.A. Been to visit many places outside of the States. Still I'm very lucky to travel because of my business and meet many,many, fine and good people. Not to many, you know crabby, looney, libs. Thats why I would have remembered you. But, like all bad experiences, I tend to forget them as quickly as possible!!
Not too shabby for a guy with no life.
You guys are the 22681 best, thanks so much for the help.
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