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POLITICS: Dana Milbank, Washington Post national political reporter
Keep the Hume Fires Burning
On Tuesday's Hour of Spin, Krazy Keith was in his own special version of hog heaven. He had a new election conspiracy:
Innocent calls, or evidence the Bush White House may have helped obstruct a free and fair election?
And Olby found another terror trial "falling apart", putting this clip in his opening tease:
These people had no more to do with terrorism than the man in the moon.
Hey, throw in Tom Cruise and Michael Musto, and it could be Keith's Best Day Ever! Krazy started off with a bang, connecting Scooter Libby to James Tobin, and remarking that they represented:
a White House determined to win at any cost.
Olby claimed a scheme to prevent Democrats from making get-out-the-vote calls in 2002 has now been "tied directly to the Bush White House". This ought to be interesting. Prosecutor Olbermann laid out the evidence that this criminal act is "tied directly" to the White House:
Records showing that Mr Tobin, who was in charge of this scheme, made more than two dozen calls to the White House within a three-day period around the election.... Some might call that Nixonian.
Um, that's evidence that the illegal act is "tied directly to the White House"? Sure, that counts for evidence on OlbyPlanet. No need to know the purpose of the calls, what was said, or anything else. The fact that this guy called the White House proves the administration was in on a criminal act. Yes, it's OlbyLogic at its finest. It's also a hyperbolic stretch so extreme that it amounts to little better than another Olbermann lie.
Even Dana Milbank was reluctant to buy into Krazy Keith's Konspiracy, cautioning that Olby's theory was entirely circumstantial, and that we don't even know whom he talked to. "It's very hard to make a case", said Milbank, but KO had a backup argument for that too:
If the Prosecutor in the phone center jamming case does not need the White House phone calls in order to convict this man Tobin and two others, and so as a result we never find out who received the calls at the White House, is this likely ever to touch the President?
It's the Olbermann Kool-Aid PreEmptive Strike: when nothing comes of all this, KO can claim it's because the Prosecutor didn't dig deeply enough (see: Cheney hunting investigation), not because Olby basically lied about a connection he cannot prove.
Talk turned to The Great Leak Case again, and Milbank noted how the President still goes out to hostile crowds and takes questions. He does? How can that be? Not that long ago Keith opined that it was obvious there would be no more of these Q&A sessions. Olbermann as Nostradamus: no more accurate than Olbermann as Fake Newsman.
Any mention of The Great Leak Case is an excuse to drag in the discredited David Shuster. Talk about speculation and rumor: Shuster was there to guess what might be in paperwork that hasn't been filed yet! There is one upside to this--since the papers are all in Shuster's imagination, it's impossible for him to doctor any quotes from them. There was no news here, just an opportunity to flog another hobby horse dear to the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann.
The #4 story began with Krazy Keith drawing an analogy between Iraq and Iran, suggesting that "Mister" Bush lacks "street cred" to take any action against Iran. He mentioned Sy Hersh's disputed claim that we had ongoing operations on the ground in Iran (described by Olby as "CLAN-dis-TINE"), but didn't bother to note Pentagon denials of this dubious story, until near the end of an interview with Howard Fineman:
What kind of credibility does he [Bush] bring to a statement that includes the dismissal of the Sy Hersh report about military options against Iran, as "wild speculation"?
The Chameleon of Pundits responded just as Keith wanted ("Very little"), adding that Hersh knows all these Pentagon people. Now old Sy has gone off on a few wild goose chases in his time, but on The Hour of Spin, the only person whose credibility is impugned is George W Bush. Sy gets a pass.
After another awe-inspiring installment of "oddball", a regurgitated NBC report told about the Lodi, CA terror trial, deemed by Judge Olby to be "at best wobbly, at worst irretrievably lost". At least the report told us who that guy was that Keith featured in the opening tease, the one who insisted the defendants had nothing more to do with terrorism than "the man in the moon". It turns out he's a paid expert witness for the defendants! Now why do you suppose KO put that in the opening credits, rather than the hours and hours of secretly taped conversations that are the heart of the prosecution case? Apparently Olby's bosses required him to give at least passing notice to the ongoing Moussaoui trial that he ridiculed as a failure only a few weeks ago, via a two-minute recycled NBC report.
You'd think a segment on "paper, scissors, rock" would be relegated to the final segment, but Olbermann News Judgment elevated it (another regurgitated tape) to the #2 position. Celebrity news (with a healthy bit of self-promotion for NBC's morning team) and moon exploration theories rounded out the backwards newshour.
In the Media Matters Minute, we did not get Dick Durbin or Harry Reid claiming the Iraq War has lasted longer than World War II. We did get the obligatory Republican/conservative choice (Mrs Richard Mellon Scaife), and a Fox News employee (Brit Hume)--a twofer! So eager was Keith Olbermann to smear Mr Hume, that he...well...he went and lied again:
Can you abide somebody's characterizing yesterday's nationwide peaceful protest by immigrants the way he did, a "repellent spectacle"? Hey pal, I've seen your newscasts...
It's another Olby Classic. Shall we dissect this one?
Olby: "yesterday's nationwide peaceful protest".
Truth: the quote he gave from Mr Hume was spoken on April 2, 2006.
Olby: "Hey pal, I've seen your newscasts"
Truth: Hey Liar, if you had, you wouldn't have taken a quote from over a week ago (not from one of Mr Hume's newscasts, by the way) and claim it's something he said about yesterday's protests. What blue blog did you lift this item from, without bothering to determine its accuracy? A story "too good to check"? That applies to most everything on Countdown, thanks to your nonexistent journalistic ethics. As long as you can keep the fires burning among your crowd of Fox-haters, that's all that counts.
For the record, here is what Brit Hume actually said about yesterday's protests:
HUME: It was a very big set of demonstrations, started yesterday I guess with a big one in Dallas, and there were demonstrations here, in New York, in Phoenix and a number of other places. A big one in Atlanta. The one in Phoenix was absolutely huge. What about the likely political effect of these protests, Bill? The last time you remember, there were a lot of Mexican flags. They didn't have a lot of Mexican flags today. Today the flags, to the extent there were any, were virtually all American.
OK, what's the over/under on when Keith Olbermann will retract this latest smear and apologize? Rhetorical question only, since there are no numbers lower than absolute zero.
And that's The Hour of Spin for this, the 53rd day of The Keith Olbermann CoverUp.
The Brit Hume segment clinches it ( yet again)!
The psuedo journalist known as Oblermann is not only without courage, he is lazy.
Keith Olbermann may be a great guy to have a beer with and watch a baseball game.
And he may just be a great guy to have as your neighbor or co-worker or business associate.
But he is just a completely tendentious and irresponsible journalist. Any sense of objectivity or fairness or balance is foreign to the man.
Forget accuracy. Don't even try to judge him on that standard.
And to think he has the gall to criticize the work of Bill O'Reilly?
Good grief.
Johnny:
Thanks for the analysis. I just couldn't take watching KO tonight.
I tuned in to O'Reilly instead. He made an odd comment. He claimed that there were rumors the MSNBC was about to shake up its prime time lineup.
Any idea what he was talking about?
I'll field that one, Dan. There were rumours that Rita Cosby would be shifted to 11, with Scarborough and Tucker bumped up an hour for a seamless four hours of politics.
But apparently, MSNBC denies it.
O'reilly- I seemed to have learned a little more about your political views. I was just wondering if you had a favorite that you want to run in 08.
I myself want Feingold. Anyway I am not sure if you still live in NY but I was just thinking of the pizza's and subs that I can't get since I left Jersey. To be honest, I don't even know of anyone that might run that fits your political leanings.
I didn't appreciate his hit piece on the Bull fighting kid. It wasn't funny, but we're talking about an insane mad man!
Spaghetti Legs,
Where I live near tampa there's a pizzarea that the owners are from Long Island so it's vey good by Florida standards and good by NY standards. I was just up in NY 2 months ago and visted my freinds from my old hood in Queens. I've lived in Florida since I left the army in 99 and I love it.
But I'm still a NYer in my heart. I go see the Yanks play in Spring training and when they play that little league team called the Rays! Lol!
In 2008 I want Guilliani since he's of the Libertarian wing of the G.O.P. If it's not him I will vote for the Libertarian condidate. Unless of course it's a close election between McCain and Hillary. Then I'll vote for McCain even though I disagree with his social issues.
As for Russ Feingold, I don't agree with his views but I respect the man. He's honest about his Leftwing positions and doesn't pertend to be a Moderate. I really respect him for honesty and if he won, it wouldn't bother me.
Rather an Honest liberal than a phoney Moderate like Clinton or a jerk like George Allen.
Spaghetti Legs,
Where I live near tampa there's a pizzarea that the owners are from Long Island so it's vey good by Florida standards and good by NY standards. I was just up in NY 2 months ago and visted my freinds from my old hood in Queens. I've lived in Florida since I left the army in 99 and I love it.
But I'm still a NYer in my heart. I go see the Yanks play in Spring training and when they play that little league team called the Rays! Lol!
In 2008 I want Guilliani since he's of the Libertarian wing of the G.O.P. If it's not him I will vote for the Libertarian condidate. Unless of course it's a close election between McCain and Hillary. Then I'll vote for McCain even though I disagree with his social issues.
As for Russ Feingold, I don't agree with his views but I respect the man. He's honest about his Leftwing positions and doesn't pertend to be a Moderate. I really respect him for honesty and if he won, it wouldn't bother me.
Rather an Honest liberal than a phoney Moderate like Clinton or a jerk like George Allen.
Sorry I forgot to put my name to the above post!
Komrade Krazy Keith attacks Brit Hume out context but makes fun of Bullfighting. What a Hypocrite
O'reilly- I feel our geographical locations are a mirror image of or political views.OPPOSITE. You live in Fla, I live in the Seattle area. But I gota call you out on something. You say you like Feingold cause he is true to his positions. But then you say you would vote for Mccain. Mccain is now pandering to the same people that F'ed him over in 2000. What's up with that? Although I will admit that Hillary is pandering to everyone. But that is not to say I would not vote for her.
I would only vote for McCain if Hillary had a shot to win. Hillary has some dictatorial tendancies and is dishonest. She recently supported a bill that wants to registers guns commiitted in a crime. that sounds good, but then from there ,all guns will be registered in a database. Then she will take away the right to bear arms. tTe reason I'm not big on the NSA taps is becuase if Hillary gets in power, they will spy on Libertarian, Conservative and even some honest Liberal groups.
Those are some of the reasons I would vote against her I could keep going, but the way she talks reminds me of a Hitler or Castro type personallity!
We might disagree on Foreign policy and some economics but when it comes to social issues, I'm to the left of Andy Warhol.
We would find common ground of keeping the gov out of people's personal lives!
Has anyone forgot about the Terrorist training camp that provides future terrorist prospects with Ninja Turtle masks and underground pole vaulting!!!!???
Woah.. Hillary reminds you of Hitler?
P.S. Don't ever worry about a single President taking away your right to bear arms; it's impossible, and a fallacy designed only to discourage people from a certain person.
Administration Pushed Notion of Banned Iraqi Weapons Despite Evidence to Contrary
By Joby Warrick
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, April 12, 2006; A01
On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. and Kurdish troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have found the weapons of mass destruction."
The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.
A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now -- had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.
The three-page field report and a 122-page final report three weeks later were stamped "secret" and shelved. Meanwhile, for nearly a year, administration and intelligence officials continued to publicly assert that the trailers were weapons factories.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/17/171214.shtml
Sunday, July 17, 2005 5:08 p.m. EDT
By Carl Limbacher
The Uranium Joe Wilson Didn't Mention
By April 2003, when the U.S. invaded Iraq, Saddam Hussein had stockpiled 500 tons of yellowcake uranium at his al Tuwaitha nuclear weapons development plant south of Baghdad.
That intriguing little detail is almost never mentioned by the big media, who prefer to chant the mantra "Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction" while echoing Joseph Wilson's claim that "Bush lied" about Iraq seeking more of the nuclear material in Niger.
Is the story credible and provable? If it is, I never heard it before.
Maybe this is why nobody talks about the "500 tons of yellowcake".
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2005/plame.html
A July 17 NewsMax article claimed that "Saddam Hussein had stockpiled 500 tons of yellowcake uranium at his al Tuwaitha nuclear weapons development plant south of Baghdad" but failed to note that virtually nothing had been done with the nuclear program since the 1991 Iraq war, and the program had decayed to a point where a U.S. official stated that Iraq was -- if it even could restart the program -- "many years from a bomb."
Of course you haven't Dave -- because the media doesn't want you to. The New York Times reported on the topic. You can get the story there, along with a lame attempt to pretend the uranium was not dangerous! Try to understand NY Times logic -- DEPLETED uranium has been questioned as hazardous by the NY Times, but 500 tons of uranium, 2 tons of it enriched, is considered less than a threat. Still want to believe the MSM?
Just read the full link above Dave. Take the red pill.
Hey Anonymous,
NEWSMAX stated a FACT. They didn't CLAIM anything. The NY Times also discussed the issue, and stated the same facts, although like you they attempted to downplay them.
I find it amazing you can state this:
"a U.S. official stated that Iraq was -- if it even could restart the program -- "many years from a bomb.""
Is that supposed to be an excuse for Saddam hiding the uranium and ignoring weapons inspectors? How do you feel about Iran, by the way? Are they "many years away" too? You know, "many years" does not mean "forever." How about Joe Wilson's claims? Are they still believable?
Just keep making excuses for Saddam and Joe Wilson. It makes you look really good.
Speaking of Joe Wilson, Olby tossed in a throwaway question to give Wilson the chance to ridicule Christopher Hitchens. But neither Olby nor Wilson addressed the facts reported by Hitchens. If you want to read the article they referenced:
http://www.slate.com/id/2139609/
What are the odds that Olby will have Hitchens on Countdown to give the other side of this story? About the same odds as KO apologizing to Brit Hume for lying about him on the air.
J$
The link is good, but there is one problem. Even when you confront lefties with the fact that Saddam had enriched uranium, they say it doesn't matter. Forget about getting them to understand that Saddam's desire to purchase uranium from Niger was a threat. Unless Saddam had a nuke, threatened to use it on video, and unleashed it on a major US city, the leftists will say "Bush lied, people died." Just look at the stance they are taking with Iran. Ahmadinejad is screaming "we will kill you" in our faces while enriching uranium, and Chris Matthews is questioning Cheney's "hard-line" stance toward Iran. Idiots will be idiots.
From the Internets (and the WaPo):
"On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. and Kurdish troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile “biological laboratories.” He declared, “We have found the weapons of mass destruction.”
The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.
A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq — not made public until now — had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president’s statement.
The three-page field report and a 122-page final report three weeks later were stamped “secret” and shelved. Meanwhile, for nearly a year, administration and intelligence officials continued to publicly assert that the trailers were weapons factories."
D'ohhh!
Buma,
Don't notice the posts preceding your latest lefty attack piece. Typical lefty illogic.
KfK,
-- Don't respond to the CONTENT of the Buma piece.
-- Just revert to your ditto-head programming and label it a "lefty attack piece".
-- Then try and make some smart comment, but fail miserably with a lame non-sequitor like "lefty illogic".
-- Return to your pathetically ignorant right-wing life.
-- Rinse and Repeat.
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said Wednesday that it is "time for action" on the international demands for Iran to cease its uranium enrichment activities.
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OK, so all the Iran comments from the admin the last few months sounds like they are convinced Iran poses a security threat to the U.S. and must be dealt with, through the U.N. if possible, and via U.S. airstrikes if necessary.
Now, be that as it may, i'm not arguing for or against, here's my question up for discussion.
When?
Since polls show most folks are against it (for better or worse, i'm not arguing one way or the other here) you would think they'd have to go immediately AFTER the midterm elections, right? i.e., so it doesn't hurt repubs in the midterms and yet is as distant from the '08 election as possible, so it doesn't hurt repubs then either, right?
what say ye?
Olbermann vs. Hichens. It would be a sane rational Leftist(Hitchens) against an Islamo-fascist sympathizer (Olbermann). Hitchens would rip him to shreds. It wouldn't be a contest. Olbermann is intellectually a coward. I would love to see someone with an alternate viewpoint on his show. Until then I don't respect him. He's Commentator not a news man.
Hey "Whateva,"
What sense does it make to debate the WMD issue when the article I pointed to gives proof of a WMD stash in Iraq of enriched uranium? Your propaganda piece really doesn't mean crap, but feel free to run with it. "Bush lied, people died!" Chant and repeat.
OLBERMANN: That this is not the first scandal to hit the White House will not come as news to you, so many eyebrows have been raised, so many timelines questioned, that keeping just track of these scandals could become a full-time job, especially when we have now sunk to the level of weather balloons.
It is our job. A quick refresher here, working backwards. In just the last two weeks, the biolabs that weren't. That's today. The Republican New Hampshire phone-jamming scheme tied to the White House. The GOP says it was the RNC, not the White House. The plan for Iran, bombing the heck out of it. Scooter Libby testifying that Vice President Cheney told him that President Bush authorized the leaking of classified information to Judith Miller, that Mr. Bush declassified for just that purpose.
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So many scandels, so little time. This admin is a laughing stock and will be remembered as such; unless of course they succeed in starting world war III. Then it'll be more sad than laughable, which some would argue, it already is.
A Homeland Security media spokesman picked up in a sex sting, charged with preying on teenaged girls. Tom DeLay resigning from Congress. Mr. Bush replacing his chief of staff under pressure. And last but certainly not least, the Senate Judiciary Committee holding a hearing on a motion to censure the president.