Olbermann's sensitivity to criticism reminds me of the basketball saying: "Teams that press do not like to be pressed."

Although we can likely apply that observation to most of the news media.

SMG

RCOX,
Take the gloves off with him, he's can't deal with criticism.
Come on do it!

Keith's rateings keep climbing and O`Liely is falling. Hey, the blinders are coming off, I can only PRAY it's not to late to save OUR country!

Give me a break. This site is simply put, a hate site dedicated towards personal attacks on Keith Olbermann and his viewers. You and many right-wing posters on this blog have made fun of Keith for seeing a psychologist (yeah, how dare Keith not like you guys), called his viewers uninformed (I love your polling data), and have tried to view all of his shows in your spin-colored glasses.

This site is dedicated towards personal attacks. It might have started out as a site to point out what they don't like in a T.V. show, but that quickly disappeared and you're left with a shell of a site that opens itself up to criticism.

P.S. Don't give yourself too much credit.

This site is a way to counter Olbermann's Comedy routine. He's not a serious news person and never allows himself to be confronted by people of opposite opinions. He's an intellectual coward!

This site is a way to counter Olbermann's Comedy routine. He's not a serious news person and never allows himself to be confronted by people of opposite opinions. He's an intellectual coward!

I'd rather see a Newsman who allows guests to speak (biased or unbiased) and asks questions that allow the viewer to understand the issue, than a newsperson who interrupts guests he doesn't agree with, call them names, or tell them to shut up (or in some cases threaten the FOX security on them).

Calling someone a coward because they don't conform to the way you'd like them to host their own show is a piss-poor tactic.

Why is the Nonfactor all in a huff? Somebody must have interrupted his circle jerk with Trekkie and Swashbuckler.

Nonfactor says.
This site is dedicated towards personal attacks.

Like is hero Obly never engages in personal attack. Hey Nonfactor, here is a little free diagnosis.

Step 1. Remove your head from your ass.

Work on step 1 and then we will move to step 2.

Nonfactor-- What is piss poor is your "logic". Making a judgment about KK's cowardice has little to do with whether he conforms or not; the issue is whether he will permit a person who disagrees with his point of view on the show.

You seem to think this OK as long as the host is asking questions that "allow the viewer to understand the issue". What a a crock. KK does nothing of a sort. His questions are crafted to inject assumptions which impugn all conservative persons and ideas, not to help his viewers "understand". For instance, he was interviewing Richard Wollfe of Time Magazine and wanted him to speculate on whether Rove would resign or get fired. He phrased the question this way (I'm paraphasing): "Do you think Richard that Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's chief of staff, the puppeteer, whatever you want to call him will step down?" I'm sure you libs got a big laugh out of that, but don't expect me, NonFactor, to buy this gargage that KK's mission is some noble goal of "allowing the viewer to understand". KK is a bloodthirsty idealogue of the first order, a soulmate of the Michael Moore's, George Soros' and Cindy Sheehan's of the world. He is no newsman as he claims, he is promoting an agenda.

It is a three "Olbergasm" night for KO as he managed to work himself into the following stories: (1) The Meredith Viera story and the fact that his mother and sister taught her in school, (2) Another reference to his show with Dan Patrick and (3) noting once agan that he has won two Edward R. Murrow awards and doing this as he feigned being helpless about running another Tom/Katie story.

His questions are crafted to inject assumptions which impugn all conservative persons and ideas, not to help his viewers "understand"

And "Hi, how are you?" is really me telling you that I hate you. You must be a little paranoid to see bias in all his questions. You want to see assuming questions - turn on Cavuto on FOX News and look at the bottom of the screen

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"Do you think Richard that Karl Rove, Mr. Bush's chief of staff, the puppeteer, whatever you want to call him will step down?"

What exactly is wrong with this question? Rove has been called many things by all people (puppeteer, Bush's Brain, the most powerful man in the White House, etc.). This question didn't show any personal agenda at all, and if this is the best you've got then you've got nothing.

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KK is a bloodthirsty ideologue of the first order, a soul mate of the Michael Moore's, George Soros' and Cindy Sheehan's of the world. He is no newsman as he claims, he is promoting an agenda.

What's said is that you honestly believe this. I obviously can't change how you view him, and I can't offer any facts that he isn't a soul mate of Michael Moore (much like you can't offer any that he is), or that he isn't a terrorist in disguise, or the boogeyman, or whatever you've dreamed him up to be; I can just say that I hope you don't have any kids that live (and that's a joke).

P.S. "Are the Republicans hurt in any way by Tom DeLays resignation?" isn't a biased question (I don't know if Keith said it or not, but this is the type of thing I'd guess you'd see as biased).

Nonfactor,
you keep skirting the issue why doesn't Comrade Keith allow people of different viewpoints on his show dogive a diffrent perspective/
It's calledpropaganda, at least admitt it.
If Comrade keith admitted his show is propaganda for the Left he would be more respected. Instaed he cliams to be just discussing the facts that's why there's Olbermann watch.

Nonfactor-- If you are going to write a rebuttal at least use some real arguments. Notice I did not say that EVERY SINGLE ONE of KK's questions is laden with political bias against conservatives-- I am talking about his substantive questions that invite the interviewee to comment on a person or news event. Maybe I should have said that KK "frequently" asks loaded questions of his guests designed to disparage the political right (excluding such salutory questions such as "Hi, how are you?) There, you happy now that I have answered your pointless criticism?

Next,I provided an example of the bias of KK's questions, but you could provide none regarding Cavuto.

If you discern no bias in the disparaging term "puppeteer", it shows how deluded you are. A puppeteer is someone who controls someone else because that person cannot do for themselves, a core liberal fantasy about President Bush. Let's be real. I was using an example off the top of my head to show KK's bias against President Bush. Would another example make you happier? How about his continual use of the term "Mr." to refer to President Bush? I guess this doesn't show any "personal agenda either (at least not on OlbyPlanet).

No, NonFactor I don't think Olby is a "terrorist" (although I think terrorists are heartened by his point of view) or the "boogeyman". I think he is a soulmate of Soros, Sheehan, and Moore because whenever he speaks about issues about the War on Terror and national security, I have never heard him say anything to disagree with them. Do you seriously believe he is the nonidealogical newsman he claims to be and that he criticizes liberals to the same dgree that he does conservatives?

Good post Hank, Nonfactor just avoids the facts, Comrade Keith spews propaganda for the Left. If he came clean on that he would be respected more!

Hank,

His questions are crafted.. - Yep, that implies all of his questions; you probably should have been more clear if you meant something else.

Even what you change your statement into: "frequently" asks loaded questions of his guests designed to disparage the political right - doesn't hold water either. This statement is just a matter of opinion, and you can't try and pass off your opinion as fact unless you have evidence (puppeteer isn't enough when you're talking about a lampooned figure like Karl Rove - Cheney even made fun of him).

You're right, I didn't provide a sample of what Cavuto did, you'll just have to take my word on it(http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/search_results?qstring=Cavuto).

Like I said, referring to a lampooned figure as a puppeteer (in your paraphrased statement) doesn't automatically mean bias. Dick Cheney said that Karl Rove really controlled the White House; was he using bias as well? Or is it not bias because when Cheney said it, it was funny to you, and when Keith said it, it wasn't? Your other example doesn't hold much water as well. Because Keith doesn't always use the President's title when he refers to him he is biased? Sometimes I don't use the term Senator when I'm talking about Senators; does that mean I'm biased towards that Senator?

How exactly are terrorists "heartened" by Olbermann's point of view? This is exactly the type of tactic people have come to expect from people on the far-right. I'm sure Keith's opinion (when he gives it, i.e. Katrina) is synonymous with many people, not just the ones you mentioned; is Keith the soul mate of all them as well?

I don't believe any newsperson is non-ideological, but that doesn't mean they have an agenda. I never said that he didn't criticize conservatives more than liberals, but I don't see it as bias. Conservatives are in power, and a guy like Keith Olbermann is always going to poke fun of the people in power, liberal or conservative.

Nonfactor,
Mike Tyson is a better observer of things than Comrade Keith.

Just a few thoughts about Olbermann Watch.

I don't view this site as "a hate site dedicated towards personal attacks on Keith Olbermann." How is it that when KO is called out on errors and spin, it is a personal attack? If Countdown were labeled an opinion show, there might be less critiquing of his dialogue. However, it is called a news show and therefore should present the news straight up without slant.

I personally don't hate Keith Olbermann. He has talent and I've been impressed with some of his work. Unfortunately, it seems that he is bent on alienating the few non-liberals that watch his show in favor of acting like a child. That whole "Worst Person in the World" bit really bugs me. Why not have the "Best Person in the World"? That's one issue I have with Countdown; is there NOTHING in the world that is good?

Nonfactor said that "right-wing" posters have targeted KO's visits to a psychologist. Alright, I don't remember this happening but if it did, I certainly don't agree with it.

I visit this site, not to attack Olbermann, but to read how others respond to the errors and mis-statements aired on Countdown.

KO seems to be rather prickly about any criticism of himself or his show. Yet he seems to find it acceptable to criticize anything that he deems contrary to his wants. As has been said before, he can dish it out but he can't take it. Any website or blog that supports his views is never held up for scrutiny, yet anything or anyone who holds views opposite his own is fair game for ridicule and mocking.

For those who oppose Bill O'Reilly or anyone else, the game of bashing is wonderful. But when anyone takes a negative view of Olbermann...well, it's time for the insults to fly.

Personally, I am glad there is a site like Olbermann Watch that takes the time to examine Countdown.

Note to KO: "Unreliable observer"? "Information of a personal nature"?

Keith, you REALLY want to go there? Fine.

Oh, I can't wait to see this... Another rehash of the "hiding under the desk" rumor, or perhaps another swipe at him for admitting to seeing a therapist?

Caroline, to truely understand why this site is bad you'd have to look at all the personal attacks that go on week after week.

The "Worst Person in the World" bit was designed as a joke to combat the trend of "The top 10 best _____", or "The Best ______", etc. You can't view these parts of his show as serious (WPITW, Oddball, #1 Story sometimes).

Nonfactor-- Since you say that KK dishes out criticism based on power rather than political affiliation in an unbiased way, tell me which powerful liberals has he criticized? Hillary "The House of Representatives is run like a plantation" Clinton? Dick "Gitmo is just like Hitler and Stalin" Durbin? How many guests has he had on his show to who come on to criticize powerful liberals? How many other "newsmen" can you name who constantly (not "sometimes" as you say in your post) call the President "Mr. Bush" with a heavy hissing emphasis on the "Mr" to make sure that listeners know that his preferred form of address is not a mistake or an oversight? This is not indicative of bias to you? I will entertain your notion that KK is not biased if you can give me some direct responsive answers to questions I have posed to you above.

The "Worst Person in the World" bit was designed as a joke to combat the trend of "The top 10 best _____", or "The Best ______", etc. You can't view these parts of his show as serious (WPITW, Oddball

Nonfactor, you can't take anything on his show seriously. I would go so far as to say very, very few viewers do and they express their apathy towards Keith by not tuning into his show.

TV shows make money by selling ad time. When viewers don't tune in - as has been the case from the start - MSNBC does not make money. MSNBC's dismal lineup doesn't do much better than KO, but one has to ask the question. How long will the parent network continue to subsidize Keith's lame ass show?

The liberals aren't the ones who control the Executive and the Legislative branch; Keith hardly ever comes out in criticism of one politician in his 5th, 4th, or 3rd story on the Countdown. Are you mad because he doesn't get riled up when Hillary Clinton says something people are feeling, or when Senator Durbin says that soldiers who torture look similar to the torture done by Hitler's men (you took his quote out of context by the way)? All it seems that you want is for Keith to talk more about how 'liberals do bad things too.'

I see you didn't refer to Sen. Clinton, or Sen. Durbin by their title, so I've come to the conclusion that you're biased. And this 'hissing emphasis on the Mr.' seems like your own paranoia.

A real defense Nonfactor would be to point out all the times KO has called out Democrats and liberals, than you would have PROOF that KO is not biased. Can you do that? Rather than make this false comparison-

KO primarily attacks Republicans and Conservative, this is not a fair balance

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"All it seems that you want is for Keith to talk more about how 'liberals do bad things too."

In a way, yes. Because if he did talk about bad things liberals did, his show would be somewhat balanced.

No, Nonfactor, I am not mad, I just want you to answer my question, which you won't do because it will expose the weakness of your argument that Olby is not biased. You claim that KK dishes out criticism based on power and not political ideology. It seems that if your claim is valid and KK is not biased against anyone based on political ideology, we would see KK criticizing people and ideas on both sides of the political spectrum. I asked you to provide me some examples of liberal persons or ideas being criticized on Olby's show. You provided none. I asked to give me the names of some guests he has had on his show that are there for the purpose of criticizing liberal persons or ideas. Again no examples. Being in the minority doesn't mean you don't have power or don't have positions on the issues that can be held up to scrutiny, but this never happens on Countdown regarding liberal positions. I will give you one more chance to give direct, responsive answers to my questions.

Caroline: Thanks for your thoughtful posting to this site on April 6th. It pretty well sums up how I feel about KO and Countdown. There's not much I can add except to note that so many others who check in here get so far off the topic of this site (Olbermannwatch) and get carried away with the conservative vs. liberal debate.

"Note to KO: "Unreliable observer"? "Information of a personal nature"?"

He's under his desk in the fetal position
"He's a kook" if you ask his physician
His docs are head-shrinking
To help alter his thinking
Prozac would help his present condition

Editor's Note:

It seems worth responding to the complaint by some KO supporters that some visitors to this site have posted comments that are inappropriate or otherwise personal with regard to Keith Olbermann. I do not LIKE when people do that, I do not encourage that nor do I do that myself. I have actively discouraged this kind of thing coming from contributors to the site (one contributor was kicked out for precisely this reason).

That said, I very rarely edit or delete comments (the most likely cause being "language", "hate speech" or "promotion/advertising"). I don't LIKE some of the nasty, profane things written about me either but it goes with the territory and so I leave those posts up on the premise that it says more about the commenter than it does me.

The nature of internet sites that leave commenting switched "on" is that you are going to get people who are well-behaved and badly-behaved. There is no point in "policing" comments. You just have to learn to blurb over those unable to express themselves in a thoughtful manner and move on. That goes for the left, the right, the pro-KO and the anti-KO.

If some of you are REALLY concerned consider this...

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HI KEITH!!!!

Glad to see you visit this site! Thanks for the kind words on the radio!

Nonfactor
I can't belive you're still holding on to that Fox Security skit thinking it's real. But hey, were here to help. May I suggest Stehpanie Miller. I listened to this loon while I was in Boston (yikes!) yesterday. By the way Non. How's billoreillywatch comming along? Will it be up and running soon? I know, I know, it's gona be tough to watch everynight. Oh my God you might even have to agree with Bill.

One need only to look at the Milbank incident to realize the "Olbermann Effect". Dana Milbank gets taken to the woodshed for getting sucked into Olbermanns game. Sure Milbank was easilly manipulated, a soft target so to speak, but still, his credentials as an unbiased news reporter have been ruined. Recently, on "Hardball with Chris Matthews, Craig Crawford tried playing the Olby game; personal attacks with tongue-in-cheek, and was promptly scolded by Matthews. Olbermann uses the the same tactics he rails against O'Reilly for using. Olbermann mimics the man, minus the courage. Keep your knees loose.

The Olbermann Effect, hey that should be the name of his upcoming show on Comedy Central!

O'Reilly Rules, I like the sound of that!

Hey Dan,
You came up with the phrase so you get the royalties. Hey about the olbermann Effect Movie starring Ben Afflack!

Where do I sign?? LOL

At the end of the movie Ben Affleck(playing Keith Olbermann) gets hired by the Iranian news service and just bashes our government while praising the Iranian president as a peace lover. A bonus feature, Olbermann buys a house in Venezualla and talks sports and America bashing with Hugo Chavez! I think we have a hit in the making: Olbermann Effect the Motion Picture directed by Michael Moore, distributed by Alec Baldwin and financed by Hezzbollah.

On another note you heard Ben Affleck said Bush should hang?
How much you want to bet Olbermann will have him on this week.

I don't think he'll put Affleck on. Keith likes to pretend he runs a news program, even though he books Franken, Garafalo, etc.

Here's a very safe prediction about next week: you will not find as "worst person in the world" either Harry Reid or Dick Durbin, both of whom made the illiterate, ignorant assertion that the Iraq War has lasted longer than World War II.

You're probably right. However never discount it!

Harry Reid or Dick Durbin, both of whom made the illiterate, ignorant assertion that the Iraq War has lasted longer than World War II.

That was a very bad thing to say and both Senators Reid and Durbin should either clarify or apologize for a clear misstatement.

I'll bet money they were trying to say that we were going to be in Iraq longer than we were in World War II and just dropped the elements I've italicized.

Thank you for your honesty, Trek-man. Now you KNOW that if Rick Santorum, Rush, or Bill O'Reilly had made such a goofy claim, they would rocket to the #1 slot on the "worst person" parade. Do you believe Keith will afford the same treatment to either Reid or Durbin?

It's really an excellent opportunity for Olby: the perfect time to name a liberal Democrat "worst person" and prove that his critics are wrong when they say he never would do so.

Do you believe Keith will afford the same treatment to either Reid or Durbin?

I want to believe, simply because no Senator (on either side) should be allowed to make such a blatantly bad misstatement without being called on it by the media.

I don't think our guys should get a free pass just because there's a "D" after their name. If we want to win the war of ideas, we have to accept that on occassion we're going to step in the horse manure. How we correct our missteps is a better indicator of our honesty than all the nuanced statements in the world.

Trekkie,
That's why you're respected. When your side is wrong you call it.

WASHINGTON -- Halliburton stock options held by Dick Cheney rose 3,281% since October, 2004,according to figures compiled by Sen. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ). The options were worth $241,498, now they are worth $8 million.

In a Sept. 15 statement, as Halliburton was getting no-bid contracts for repairs following Hurricane Katrina, Lautenberg said that Cheney should divest himself of these Halliburton holdings.

"Halliburton has already raked in more thant $10 billion from the Bush-Cheney administration for work in Iraq, and now they are being awarded some of the first Katrina contracts. It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it."

Let me get ths straight? A politician from New Jersey is lecturing someone on ethics?

non-sequitor

"The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger." -- Reichmarshall Hermann Goering

Kieth Olberman is so disgusting. I think that the Republians have done a lousy job in the White House and in Congress. Bill O'Rielly is often a little full of himself. But say one thing about O'Rielly, he does have left wing wackos on the show to speak. You won't see Olberman ever doing that. He is lower that whale crap and that is at the bottom of the ocean.

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