Buy Text-Link-Ads here
Recent Comments

    follow OlbyWatch on Twitter

    In

    The Olbermann Week That Was: By the Numbers

    rob5791 wrote: No serious anchor or serious journalist would have ever done what Olbermann... [more](20)

    In

    Olbermann Sinks to New Low with Repellent, Vulgar Cheap Shot

    Mike C. wrote: While Patrick was sliming me, I was at a Super Bowl party. He also has MCD... [more](21)

    In

    John Gibson Predicts New Owners Will Fire Keith Olbermann!

    Mike C. wrote: I have to get something out of the way: I had no idea that the elder Duncan... [more](52)

    In

    January Chart Proves Keith Olbermann: Still a Liar!

    besellers wrote: I would take a vacation from work and literally drink for a week straight.... [more](36)

    In

    David Shuster Responds to Red Eye, Robot Replies to Shuster!

    Grammie wrote: As much as I neither like nor respect Shuster I have to admit that he handl... [more](2)

    KO Mini Blog



    What's in the Olbermann Flood Feed?
    Subscribe to Olbermann Flood Feed:
    RSS/XML

    KO Countdown Clock

    KO's new contract with MSNBC ends in...
    384 days 13 hours 29 minutes

    OlbermannWatch.com "My Faves" Set

    OlbermannWatch.com Favorited Photos from other Flickr Users

    Got OlbyPhotos? See some on Flickr? DO NOT email us. Send us a FlickrMail instead. Include a link to the photo. If we like the photo you will see it displayed in the Olby Flickr Flood above.

    New to Flickr? Sign up for a FREE Flickr account!


    Got some OlbyVideo? See some on YouTube? DO NOT email us. Send us a YouTube Messages instead. Include a link to the video. If we like the video you will see it displayed in our favorites list in our YouTube page.

    New to YouTube? Sign up for a FREE YouTube account!

    Red Meat Blog
    Keith Olbermann Quotes
    Countdown Staff Writers

    If they're not on Keith's payroll...

    ...they should be...

    Crooks & Liars
    Daily Kos
    Eschaton
    Huffington Post
    Media Matters for America
    MyDD
    News Corpse
    No Quarter
    Raw Story
    Talking Points Memo
    Think Progress
    TVNewser
    Keith Lovers

    MSNBC's Countdown
    Bloggerman
    MSNBC Transcripts
    MSNBC Group at MSN

    Drinking with Keith Olbermann
    Either Relevant or True
    KeithOlbermann.org
    Keith Olbermann is Evil
    Olbermann Nation
    Olbermann.org
    Thank You, Keith Olbermann

    Don't Be Such A Douche
    Eyes on Fox
    Liberal Talk Radio
    Oliver Willis
    Sweet Jesus I Hate Bill O'Reilly

    Anonymous Rat
    For This Relief Much Thanks
    Watching Olbermann Watch

    Keith Olbermann Fanlisting Site I
    Keith Olbermann Fanlisting Site II
    Keith Olbermann Links
    Olberfans
    Sports Center Altar
    Nothing for Everyone

    Democratic Underground KO Forum
    Television Without Pity KO Forum
    Loony KO Forum (old)
    Loony KO Forum (new)
    Olberfans Forum (old)
    Olberfans Forum (new)
    Keith Watchers

    186k per second
    Ace of Spades HQ
    Cable Gamer
    Dean's World
    Doug Ross@Journal
    Extreme Mortman
    Fire Keith Olbermann
    Hot Air
    Inside Cable News
    Instapundit
    Jawa Report
    Johnny Dollar's Place
    Just One Minute
    Little Green Footballs
    Mark Levin
    Media Research Center
    Moonbattery.com
    Moorelies
    National Review Media Blog
    Narcissistic Views
    Newsbusters
    Pat Campbell Show
    Radio Equalizer
    Rathergate
    Riehl World View
    Sister Toldjah
    Toys in the Attic
    Webloggin
    The Dark Side of Keith Olbermann
    World According to Carl

    Thanks for the blogroll link!

    Age of Treason
    Bane Rants
    The Blue Site
    Cabal of Doom-De Oppresso Libre
    Chuckoblog
    Conservative Blog Therapy
    Conservathink
    Country Store
    Does Anyone Agree?
    The Drunkablog!
    Eclipse Ramblings
    If I were President of USA
    I'll Lay Down My Glasses
    Instrumental Rationality
    JasonPye.com
    Kevin Dayhoff
    Last Train Out Of Hell
    Leaning Straight Up
    Limestone Roof
    Mein BlogoVault
    NostraBlogAss
    Peacerose Journal
    The Politics of CP
    Public Secrets: from the files of the Irishspy
    Rat Chat
    Return of the Conservatives
    The Right Place
    Rhymes with Right
    seanrobins.com
    Six Meat Buffet
    Sports and Stuff
    Stout Republican
    Stuck On Stupid
    Things I H8
    TruthGuys
    Verum Serum
    WildWeasel

    Friends of OlbyWatch

    Aaron Barnhart
    Eric Deggans
    Jason Clarke
    Ron Coleman
    Victria Zdrok
    Keith Resources

    Google News: Keith Olbermann
    Feedster: Keith Olbermann
    Technorati: Keith Olbermann
    Wikipedia: Keith Olbermann
    Wikipedia: Countdown
    Wikiality: Keith Olbermann
    Keith Olbermann Quotes on Jossip
    Keith Olbermann Photos
    NNDB Olbermann Page
    IMDB Olbermann Page
    Countdown Guest Listing & Transcripts
    Olbermann Watch FAQ
    List of Politics on Countdown (by party)
    Mark Levin's Keith Overbite Page
    Keith Olbermann's Diary at Daily Kos
    Olbermann Watch in the News

    Houston Chronicle
    Playboy
    The Journal News
    National Review
    San Antonio Express
    The Hollywood Reporter
    The Journal News
    Los Angeles Times
    American Journalism Review
    Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
    St. Petersburg Times
    Kansas City Star
    New York Post/Page Six
    Washington Post
    Associated Press
    PBS
    New York Daily News
    Online Journalism Review
    The Washingon Post
    Hartford Courant
    WTWP-AM
    The New York Observer
    The Washington Post


    Countdown with Keith Olbermann
    Great Moments in Broadcast Journalism
    Great Thanks Hall of Fame
    Keith Olbermann
    MSM KO Bandwagon
    Olbermann
    Olbermann Watch Channel on You Tube
    Olbermann Watch Debate
    Olbermann Watch Image Gallery
    Olbermann Watch Polling Service
    OlbermannWatch
    OlbyWatch Link Roundup
    TVNewser "Journalism"

    February 2010
    January 2010
    December 2009
    November 2009
    October 2009
    September 2009
    August 2009
    July 2009
    June 2009
    May 2009
    April 2009
    March 2009
    February 2009
    January 2009
    December 2008
    November 2008
    October 2008
    September 2008
    August 2008
    July 2008
    June 2008
    May 2008
    April 2008
    March 2008
    February 2008
    January 2008
    December 2007
    November 2007
    October 2007
    September 2007
    August 2007
    July 2007
    June 2007
    May 2007
    April 2007
    March 2007
    February 2007
    January 2007
    December 2006
    November 2006
    October 2006
    September 2006
    August 2006
    July 2006
    June 2006
    May 2006
    April 2006
    March 2006
    February 2006
    January 2006
    December 2005
    November 2005
    October 2005
    September 2005
    August 2005
    June 2005
    May 2005
    April 2005
    March 2005
    February 2005
    January 2005
    December 2004
    November 2004

    Google

    Olbermann Watch Masthead

    Managing Editor

    Robert Cox
    olby at olbywatch dot com

    Contributors

    Mark Koldys
    Johnny Dollar's Place

    Brandon Coates
    OlbyWatch

    Chris Matthews' Leg
    Chris Matthews' Leg

    Howard Mortman
    Extreme Mortman

    Trajan 75
    Think Progress Watch

    Konservo
    Konservo

    Doug Krile
    The Krile Files

    Teddy Schatz
    OlbyWatch

    David Lunde
    Lundesigns

    Alex Yuriev
    Zubrcom

    Red Meat
    OlbyWatch



    Technorati Links to OlbyWatchLinks to OlbermannWatch.com

    Technorati Links to OlbyWatch Blog posts tagged with "Olbermann"

    Combined Feed
    (OlbyWatch + KO Mini-blog)

    Who Links To Me


    Mailing List RSS Feed
    Google Groups
    Subscribe to Olbermann Watch Mailing List
    Email:
    Visit this group



    XML
    Add to Google
    Add to My Yahoo!
    Subscribe with Bloglines
    Subscribe in NewsGator Online

    Add to My AOL
    Subscribe with Pluck RSS reader
    R|Mail
    Simpify!
    Add to Technorati Favorites!

    Subscribe in myEarthlink
    Feed Button Help


    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    April 14, 2006
    Olbermann Watch Obsession Continues for Olby Loons

    The Olby Loons over at Olbermann.org just can't get enough of talking about OlbermannWatch, the clear-thinking contributors and commenters who populate the site with hard-hitting analysis of Keith Olbermann and his minions on Countdown.

    Here is a roundup of recent posts from the TinFoilHat crowd.

    TimidOne
    it has the nerve to say it's "reality-based news for the belligerently uninformed"

    salome
    Well that "belligerently uninformed" moniker was bestowed upon that site's founder, Robert Cox, by KO himself.

    keitholbermann69\
    oh those bastards! how can they hate keith

    the roser
    Keith could use the extra veiwers

    Michael (site admin) wrote:
    I haven't gone to this site because I know how they work, and I would certainly be banned quickly when they discovered I didn't toe their swift boat line... (I gues you would tow a swift boat?) anyway--those boards sometimes even require comments to be approved in advance.

    salome
    Michael, I've posted comments on the olbermannwatch site before, and they do go right through... but it doesn't matter what you say if it's in defense of KO. They always have a negative response at the ready.

    Michael wrote:
    I don't think we are ready for those folks here, yet. I think we need 100 or so solid Keith supporters so we can beat the trolls back. We are getting there though, 20 real users in less than a week! :D

    Quanlin
    Be careful of Cox. He has a creepy history of invading the private lives of people who post opposing viewpoints on OW.

    Michael
    Anyone with that sort of agenda has to have something misfiring under the hood. It is just a weblog anyway, not a real site.

    Krabloonik
    I don't even bother wasting my time with OlbermannWatch and its wacko in charge. He obviously has a bit of an envy problem regarding Mr. O and it's not going to be resolved no matter how many of us rail at him. I expect that with time he will shrivel and die.

    OlbermannBuiltMyHotRod
    the only reason i can see for anyone hating KO is ignorance. he's sarcastic, but that's not it. he makes a lot of oblique and obscure references that he doesn't bother to explain and certainly never dumbs down. stupid people would have to really concentrate and most likely have some reference materials handy to follow it. and nobody likes feeling stupid. that's my theory. one thing about KO throughout his whole career - if you can't hang, he ain't gonna drag ya. the rest who don't like him are knee-jerk automatons that aren't interested in his common sense because it isn't draconian enough for them, so they don't get that feeling of false moral superiority that makes them so comfortable. these gastropods eat up every word Bill O'Reilly says and continue to do so even after KO exposes him for making stupid claims like he did about a college footbal career not to mention MAKING UP THE NEWS OUT OF WHOLE CLOTH! war on Xmas, my ass! how does he still have a job? he's no better than Jayson Blair, and that's just sad. if he wasn't such an ass---- i'd pity him. but he brings it upon himself. O'Reilly is badly out-foxed. pun definitely intended.

    Trekkie
    I was over on OW, but I decided to leave after getting trashed as a "moonbat liberal". BTW, that is now attached to my MSN profile. As many have said, hurl liberal at me like a slur and I will pick it up and wear it as a badge of honor.

    ===========

    If there are people from this site who are using "sockpuppets" to troll over on OW, please stop. We ask that people don't troll us because it lowers the level of the debate. We should reciprocate that feeling with sites that we don't like.

    I don't like them any more than the rest of you, but posting juvenile messages does nothing but make them think we can't engage on the issues.

    salome
    I agree Trekkie. It's already difficult enough to have a discussion with the people over there.

    salome
    I can take criticism and humor directed at KO if it's worthwhile and funny, but most everything I read over there is either completely untrue, childish bashing, or deliberate obtuseness. It's really not worth wasting ones' time or brain cells on such a close-minded group as OW.

    OlbermannBuiltMyHotRod
    i whole-heartedly agree. we're above that sort of thing. let's make this the (relatively) classy KO site. personally, i don't give OW the time of day. the guy who runs that thing is a moron. we're so out of his league. let's act that way.

    OlbermannBuiltMyHotRod
    i actually feel sorry for some of these people, many of whom are no doubt big O'Reilly fans. i think Gene Wilder's Waco Kid in Blazing Saddles said it best:

    "...you've gotta remember that these are just simple farmers. these are people of the land. the common clay of the New West. you know... morons."

    brooklynbilly
    Gee,how odd I think OW is great.JD's daily critique of Kountdown is always right on the money and there are a few really amusing writers.My new favorite is Patrick Fegan,he's very witty and has posted some very clever limericks.Take a look you'll enjoy them.

    Trekkie
    1. The WaPo article on Keith got picked up by FireDogLake (who was then linked at CrooksAndLiars), so an influx of KO fans has emerged on OW to challenge the powers that be there (and these are not the trolls I spoke of earlier).
    2. As a consequence, OW has taken to "tagging" certain posters of the opposite viewpoint with labels such as "Typical Libnut", "KO Kook", "Olby Loon", "Tin Foil Hatter", etc.

    Quanlin
    Yeah, they've done that for a long time now. It's easier to hang a "this person is stupid" sign on someone's post than to demonstrate that you're right through actual debate.
    He also recently butchered the wiki KO article, but his changes have already been reverted.

    Trekkie
    I should have clarified - I meant tagging in the literal sense. A small graphic is added on to the "dissenting view" by someone with access to the OW source code.

    Quanlin
    Yeah, I know. They've done that for a long time.

    scooter
    You really have to wonder why so many people would watch a show night after night if they hate it. Do all those commenters over at OW really watch? Or are they just commenting based on what Cox or Johhny Dollar writes? I understand that in order to state your dislike for something you have to watch a number of times - or you are not being fair. But every night? That's just weird. And the comments are extremely personal. Not professional or distanced in any way. They speculate on Keith Olbermannn's hair, his sanity, his sexuality, and everything else. I suppose that would make sense if you LIKED the guy, but if you dislike him it is just too weird. Some sort of negative obsession thing going on.

    salome
    Not only do they (I'm assuming there's more than one person over there making those posts and comments, but you never know!) watch new broadcasts OF Countdown every night, but they apparently rewatch KO's appearances on other shows (Q&A) and old CD broadcasts. It's just sorta weird, overall.


    Posted by Robert Cox | Permalink | Comments (46) | | View blog reactions

    46 Comments

    You talk about obsession and then post more than 15 comments from said site..

    And you're one to talk about "hard-hitting analysis" - you guys don't talk at all about the issues discussed and whether good points are made (for example when David Shuster makes a report on an issue you glaze right over it and simply insult Shuster).

    Nonfactor,

    I have offered to "debate" any reader, any time, on any KO-relevant topic in a post reserved only for the two debaters (other readers can comment but not post). Since 2004, none of you KO fans have been willing to take me on so PLEASE don't give me this line about "you guys" don't talk at all about the issues discussed and whether good points are made.

    To quote a President who will some day be on Mount Rushmore:

    "Bring it on"

    I'll debate anyone on this site as long as they don't resort to calling me a terrorist or anti-American or pro-terrorist every other post. Personal attacks muddy a debate and so far I've not seen one conservative on this site post without using personal attacks.

    You have never seen ME do that.

    Shoot me an email (robert.cox AT thenationaldebate.com) and we can set this up off line.

    You can pick the topic but it must be KO-relevant; the mutual goal (I hope) would be to stay one ONE topic until we agree, agree-to-disagree of have beaten it do death (by mutual agreement).

    NonFactor,
    I've stated I don't think your a traitor or a terrorist. Just someone who doesn't grasp the threat Islamo-Fascism is. That's all. You mean well but don't see the big picture. I don't mean that in any personal way.

    .."you guys don't talk at all about the issues discussed and"

    We - especially Robert and JD - talk a great deal about how Olbermann covers issues and how his tendentious reporting and one-sided interviews creates, as Somerby says, a sloppy and superficial show.

    As Stein said about Oakland, there's no there there.

    The only lefty, for the most part, who discusses content here is Trekkie. And he's a good debater - tough and (sometimes) fair.

    SMG

    Trekkie
    I was over on OW, but I decided to leave after getting trashed as a "moonbat liberal". BTW, that is now attached to my MSN profile. As many have said, hurl liberal at me like a slur and I will pick it up and wear it as a badge of honor.

    Trekkie, being so full of "honor" it's obvious we will never see you again at this site. Or are you just full of crapolla?

    I perfer trekkie to that no it all Jack Frost. Trekkie reasons, Frosty thinks he's the new Ghandi!

    Trekkie, being so full of "honor" it's obvious we will never see you again at this site. Or are you just full of crapolla?

    A person can change his mind, right? I decided that I prefer the thrust-and-parry.

    welcome back Trekkie.
    It's good to have a reasonable Liberal like you.
    As oppose to the Jack Ghandi Frost!

    > A person can change his mind, right?

    Like Bill O'Reilly supposedly did about Easter?

    Trekkie! Worst Person in the World!!

    Trekkie! Worst Person in the World!!

    I'll put this on my mantle. It'll look nice without being too gaudy...

    NonFactor--

    For some rather revealing evidence about exactly the kind of debate Bob Cox likes to engage in feel free to visit the archives here at OW:

    http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/002463.html

    Be sure to read the whole thing if you're seriously going to give any consideration to the idea of sending an email to Bob Cox. He has no loyalty to anyone or anything and will trash just about anyone without regard just to whore himself for publicity. My advice, enjoy posting on OW if you must, but stay clear of Bob Cox.

    Cox,
    Can you do the same for Jack Frost. I mean he claims he's part of a revolutionary movement. We should warn the authorities on this guy. He might be in cahoots with Sanjay and the Iranians!

    Qualin,

    You outed yourself with THAT comment. Good to see you back.

    You must not be much a friend to Marisa - she became hysterial over the post and has probably hoping it would just go away. Thanks for highlighting it yet again!

    Mr. Cox:

    I'm not sure who Qualin is, or what exactly you are referring to. In any case, funny thing, I've read that thread all the way through more than once (and I'd encourage anyone who spends any time here at all to do the same before engaging with Mr. Cox about anything) and never noticed Marissa's supposed "hysteria."

    What I did notice was a woman who appeared to be concerned about some rather threatening online behavior on your part, and a woman who was concerned that a man who would claim to be gathering personal information about her and her family might the kind of nutcase who would do something even more crazy. But I suppose I should let everyone else here judge for themselves.


    Q - that's because I did not publish EVERY email but if you'd like I can publish the ones in which she becomes hysterial. Since your such pals why don't you give her a ring and ask her if she'd like that. It would be a local call now, right?

    Mr. Cox: As I said, I'm not Qualin or "Q" or whoever else you may accuse me of being. Funny how old habits die hard, isn't this the same thing you did to Marissa, accuse of her being everyone all at the same time?

    I see you've fallen right back into your old habits of subtle threats. I'm assuming your "It's a local call" comment is meant to make me feel as though you know some kind of personal information about where I live. I can assure you I'm a bit smarter than that and whatever information you think you glean from my IP address is of no use to you-- Anonymizer is quite wonderful that way, you see.

    I have no loyalty to anyone in this, so threatening to publish emails just falls on deaf ears. As far as I'm concerned the more people who see that thread the better. People should be aware of who and what you are.

    And for what it's worth, publishing emails in which the poor woman was hysterical will only make you look worse, not better. But then again, only people with ethics and morals would understand that, I suppose that's why you can't see it for yourself. No offense, but behaving in a way which made some poor woman become hysterical doesn't make you look like a hero, it makes you seem like a lunatic. I find it rather surprising that you would be so willing to brag about it.

    We all desperately need to know what YOU think of me!!!!

    Let's see....maybe I'm a nazi, right-wing, hateful, vile, KO-hating, cyberstalking, bully.

    Or...maybe I'm O'Reilly-loving, truth-distorting, psyschopathic, wingnut.

    Or...maybe I'm a Rovian-worshipping, neocon, hitler-youth.

    BTW...you can anonymize all you want...your words and your tone give you away. I can't think of many people except Marisa's "friends" who would feel the need to link to a post that is more than a year old to prove that I'm "dangerous".

    We all know that Keith Olbermann is the most dangerous man in America. Maybe I'm the second most dangerous.

    Shall we vote on it?

    No, you're just a strange man with very little ethics when it comes to online behavior. I hardly think we need to vote on it.

    And really, trying to make yourself seem more important than you are is rather childish, isn't it?

    We all know that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the most dangerous man on the planet. Perhaps Mr. Olbermann is number 2. But I'm willing to bet good money that you're not even in the top 1000 most dangerous people.

    You're just some blogger freak who obsessively fills his Flickr page with pictures of pretty cheerleaders who look rather like his wife. What's the matter, not happy with what you have at home?

    Wrong,
    The most dangerous man id Jack Frost! He's plotting to overthrow the Bush Criminal Syndicate with the help of his Iranian buddy Sanjay!
    Frost and Sanjay, a revolutionary pair that dwarfs Che and Csstro at their prime!

    Q - anonymizer may be wonderful but what you don't know about internet technology could fill a Wikipedia.

    Having already demonstrated what you, Marisa and the rest of the gal pals are all about - lying, liberal, loons who all seem to think you might someday be the future Mrs. Olbermann - I don't see any further value in showing you all for the loons you are. You've done that suffeciently for yourselves.

    If anyone else wants to bother with Queen Bee here, she's in New York, she connects to the internet via a cable modem from Cablevision, she has an optonline.net email account and can found most days smoking her hash pipe and starting out the window looking for black helicopters. Drop me a line if you want the details necessary to chase Q down the rabbit hole.

    I have been remiss in not bringing readers who were not with us a year ago up to speed on this recent exchange with Q. The hope behind her fear-mongering on this site is two-fold: (1) to "discredit" me as a critic of Keith Olbermann by spreading a lie that I took it upon myself to publish personal information about one of the Olby Loons, Marisa McNee - and did so because she "disagreed" with me; (2) to discourage those who disagree me/KO fans from reading, commenting, linking or contributing to this site so they won't give "credence" to the site. You don't be surprised to hear that truth is dramatically different.

    Marisa McNee is a rather odd woman who repeatedly harrassed me for about 4-5 months last year by posting anonymous/ psuedonymous comments to this site and by posting hundreds of vile, foul-mouthed personal comments about me on various web sites under various psuedonyms. At the same time, she was sending me emails under her own name purporting to be just a typical web surfer who happened to stumble across OlbermannWatch and did not feel it was right for us to critize KO. She sent me numerous requests to take down my site and stop criticizing Keith Olbermann. I later discovered that my email conversations with Marisa McNee were turning up on message boards elsewhere and that a person using a revolving set of pseudonyms was posting all sorts of vile, defamatory things about me on the web. After a bit of research, I was able to determine that all of it was the handiwork of the same Marisa McNee and was part of a campaign initiated by McNee, on the day Olbermann Watch first went live, to rally KO supporters on a variety of left-wing web sites including Air America Radio, Democratic Underground and various KO fan sites and forums with the aim of harassing me and shutting down the Olbermann Watch site. All of this is documented clearly on the post Q is referencing. When I finally posted what I knew, McNee, unable to defend herself against her own words, became hysterical and began hurling accusations that I was "stalking" her and encouraging Olbermann Watch readers to commit murder. Yep, murder.

    Here's what happened...

    When I had confirmed the information, I confronted her in the OlbermannWatch comments section and accused her of misrepresenting herself to me in her emails, on the OW site and elsewhere on the web. Rather than come clean she denied her many false identities, denied her behavior and her own words and denied having been in communication, directly or indirectly, with Keith Olbermann. Unfortunately for her, I had documentation to back up my assertions as she was about to discover.

    I gave Marisa McNee numerous opportunities to come clean. Instead she accused me of lying and posted various challenges:

    "I've asked multiple times for you to provide evidence about my "grand consipiracy" to take down your site. I've also asked multiple times for you to provide evidence of all the horrible things I've supposedly done to anger you. You haven't given me or anyone else here any evidence. We can clear this up pretty quickly, post the evidence, including every email interaction we've ever had (in their entirety), and then we'll see what's what."

    "please post all these horrible things I've said about you"

    "There's not a chance on God's green earth that you could ever do anything that would even remotely influence my life."

    "If you've got proof of any of your allegations, let's hear it."

    ""you could show the entire portfolio of every post and email that has ever been sent to you or posted on that stupid website of yours, and it wouldn't do a bit of harm to my reputation."

    The OlbyLoons have sought to propagate (through posting comments on this site, other sites and comments to the press) is that I "outed" Marisa McNee, by name, on Olbermann Watch. McNee's own words reveal the lie in this claim:

    "I thought I would offer up some information about myself so you can decide for yourselves whether my comments here should be given consideration or rejected out of hand becuase I am a troll."

    "My name is Marisa McNee. Feel free to google me and find out all of the information from which Bob is drawing his ridiculous conclusions. Better yet, if you really want to know more about me or would like to hear the silly email history behind Bob's irritation with me, feel free to email me at mmcnee@umich.edu. That goes for anyone"

    As you can see, the person who published her name, email and where she went to school is none other than Marisa McNee herself. When I took her up on her various challenges and published what I had she became more and more irrational. Firmly hoisted on her own petard, McNee, her gal pals were reduced to making defamatory statements about me - accusing my of "stalking" her and proclaiming ominously that I revealed information of a "personal nature" about McNee. You read that right - the woman who spent months obsessing about me and my site - talking about me on the web, sometimes, daily, encouraging people to "attack" my site, sending me unsolicited emails, repeatedly returning to my site to make scurrilous accusations against me - turned around and began claiming that I was stalking her.

    The "information of a personal nature" that was the basis for Olbermann's personal attack against me last week on the radio in Washington - that supposedly causes Marisa McNee and her pals to become so apoplectic is that I linked, among other things, to her father's web page at the Menlo Clinic in California where he is a doctor affiliated at Stanford Medical Center. Yes, you got that right too - that I linked to a public web page.

    Apparently no one at Stanford, including her father, is particularly concerned about it because the page is still up there.

    In fact, Marisa McNee's reaction was indifference:

    "Oh, and woo hoo, nice pic dad! In the words of the oh-so-famous Paris Hilton-- That's hot!"

    But, after talking it over with her OlbyLoon GalPals, Marisa McNee suddenly had a new "reaction" - one that brought the entire matter full circle to her original reaction to first seeing the Olbermann Watch site months before - demanding that I take down the site.

    After talking it over with her OlbyLoon GalPals, McNee was now "alarmed" by the link to her father's web page, that it was a "threat", that she couldn't sleep, that she was sobbing, that I was targeting her father, that I was encouraging people to kill her father. Suddenly, she supposedly believe that a "crime" had been committed - that she felt "threatend". She began making absurd legal arguments on all sorts of laws I had supposedly violated, she called my web hosting provider demanding that he take down my site, she claims to have filed a police report with the Ann Arbor Police Department and sought to have me arrested by the New Rochelle Police Department (note: I am still a free man) and have my site shut down.

    And then she just went away.

    That was all a year ago and has long since been forgotten.

    In the past month, however, there has been a sudden, renewed interest in this matter and not from me. In fact, I haven't even been posting on this site since that all happened.

    Out of the blue I received yet another unsolicited email from Marisa McNee asking if "we could be friends again" (as if we ever were), the GalPals have become active by posting "warnings" about me on blogs that mention Keith Olbermann and coming back to this site stirring the pot once again.

    The kicker, of course, is that just a few days after I heard from Marisa McNee, Keith Olbermann himself put forward a personal attack on me based on McNee's absurd claims during a radio appearance with Bob Kur (formerly of NBC News) and Howard Kurtz (Washington Post/CNN) as some half-baked attempt to critize Kurtz for citing me as an "unreliable critic of his work". I know from conversations I had with sources I consider to be reliable that Olbermann was communicating with McNee when this all began about a year and half a go, that he was making vague threats about taking legal action against me because a TV producer in Washington published an email exchange with Keith in the OlbyWatch comments section, I know that Keith has accused me of persecuting him, I know that Keith reads (and hates) this site, I know that Keith is now parroting the OlbyLoon GalPal party line about me to Bob Kur and Howard Kurtz and I know that Keith has a past history of reacting very negatively to ANY criticism of him. And suddently it does not seem so far off base to think that Keith has had some role in all of this. In fact, he has had SOME role so it is really just a matter of how much of a role.

    This really is right out of the Krazy Keith Playbook. Not too long ago, he was raving about Bill O'Reilly's "harrassment" of a newspaper columnist. What O'Reilly did was give out the guy's email address--an email address that sits right out in the open on the newspaper's website, and is still there to this day.

    Need I say more, your post really says it all Bob. You supposedly forgot about this whole thing more than a year ago and couldn't care less about these people, yet you've obviously kept an entire record and transcript of information about some woman, followed her around the internet to track her public comments and spent the better part of yesterday constructing a post to explain it all.

    And now you're convinced the whole thing is orchestrated by Keith Olbermann? Seriously Bob, get some help.

    ==========================================
    Diagnostic criteria for 301.0 Paranoid Personality Disorder
    =====================

    A pervasive distrust and suspiciousness of others such that their motives are interpreted as malevolent, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by four (or more) of the following:

    (1) suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her
    (2) is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates
    (4) reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events
    (5) persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights
    (6) perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack

    =============================================
    Diagnostic criteria for 301.81 Narcissistic Personality Disorder
    ====================
    A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

    (1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

    (2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

    (3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

    (4) requires excessive admiration

    (5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

    (6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

    (7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

    (8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

    (9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes


    CID wrote:

    "You supposedly forgot about this whole thing more than a year ago and couldn't care less about these people, yet you've obviously kept an entire record and transcript of information about some woman, followed her around the internet to track her public comments and spent the better part of yesterday constructing a post to explain it all."

    Why I am not surprised that you have obviously not read the post you encouraged everyone to read? All of the quotations contained in my comment can be found within that post. All I did to compose my comment was re-read that post and associated comment thread and copy/paste.

    QID

    " you're convinced the whole thing is orchestrated by Keith Olbermann"

    I did not say that KO "orchestrated" this. My words can be understood by a plain reading of what I wrote:

    "it does not seem so far off base to think that Keith has had some role in all of this. In fact, he has had SOME role so it is really just a matter of how much of a role."

    It is beyond dispute that KO has had a role in some part of this story - he has complained vociferously about Olbermann Watch in the press claiming he is being persecuted by this site, he did communicate with Marisa McNee about the Tom Sileo email, he did call Tribune broadcasting to complain about Tom Sileo posting that email on Olbermann Watch, he did attack me personally on the radio citing Marisa McNee's supposed grievance against Olbermann Watch.

    The only question is whether Keith was or has become a driving force in these efforts to attack me personally or attack Olbermann Watch generally. There is no doubt that Keith Olbermann parroting Marisa McNee's aburd claims in a radio interview with Bob Kur and Howard Kurtz brought the entire issue to the widest audience to date. In other words, I don't know whether KO was the animating force behind all of this but we all know that KO has personally involved himself in this issue by advancing McNee's claims on one of the largest radio stations in Washington and communicating those claims to one of the most widely read media critics in the U.S. (Howard Kurtz).

    These are facts. If you want to be taken seriously by clear-thinking readers you are going to need to deal with them.

    Bob is on the money about Marissa. I was there when the whole lunacy went down and even chided Bob a bit for being so relentless in his criticism of her.

    I was dead wrong and had to apologize as M's instability became more shocking. She made it clear that Olbermann should beware his fans, not his critics.

    The whole episode is indicative of the pitfalls of online encounters. Unfortunately, I've had a more recent experience in the obsessiveness and malice of some online types.

    I'd never realised how sheltered I've been. There's some real nutballs out there.

    It is interesting that you quoted the DM-IV on "Paranoid Personality Disorder" as this would be a pretty good starting point in evaluating Marisa McNee's claims that I was targeting her father and encouraging people to kill him.

    The symptomology for "Narcissistic Personality Disorder" is a stretch although I think you could make the case that both Keith Olbermann and I exhibit some of these criteria yet not enough for a diagnosis of NPD.

    As for your application of these terms to me in the context of Marisa McNee, they are ironic. Let's go through them, shall we?

    "Paranoid Personality Disorder"

    (1) suspects, without sufficient basis, that others are exploiting, harming, or deceiving him or her

    Marisa McNee was sending me emails posing as one thing and posting anonymous/psuedonymous comments about me and those emails as another. In other words, deceiving me about who she was, what her agenda was and her real attitude towards me, my site and Keith Olbermann.

    (2) is preoccupied with unjustified doubts about the loyalty or trustworthiness of friends or associates

    Marisa McNee is not a friend or associate of mine and never was; any doubts I have about Marisa McNee's trustiworthness are supported by ample documentation from the post you previously cited.

    (4) reads hidden demeaning or threatening meanings into benign remarks or events

    Marisa McNees remarks about me on the QuickTopic dicussion board and elsewhere were anything but benign.

    (5) persistently bears grudges, i.e., is unforgiving of insults, injuries, or slights

    I had not posted or commented on this matter on Olbermann Watch or anywhere else for about a year. I only began to comment on it when Marisa McNee renewed her attempt to communicate with me a few weeks in yet another unsolcited email, when Keith Olbermann personally attacked me on the radio and, more to the point, when you began bringing it up in the comments section of this site.

    (6) perceives attacks on his or her character or reputation that are not apparent to others and is quick to react angrily or to counterattack

    I don't think you can make much of case that the type of foul-mouthed, invective and sexually-explicit slurs made against me and my family by McNee for a period of mouths is somethinig that is "not apparent to others". Even McNee herself eventually apologized for what she wrote and made some effort to remove some of the most egregious remarks.


    "Narcissistic Personality Disorder"

    (1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

    When your as intelligent, accomplished and talented as I am it is often difficult to keep a sense of grandiosity in check. I view it as one of the many burdens I must carry, someone akin to having to debate nitwits like you on my media-saavy, brilliants, insightful web site which is, after all, one of the best blogs on the internet and source of admirations for all who behold it.

    (2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

    Everyone who knows me does not just love me but worships me and wants to be near me all the time.

    (3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

    I am perhaps one of the greatest people I know and command respect from all who gaze upon me. If that makes me "unique" so be it.

    (4) requires excessive admiration

    This is false on its face. There is no limit to the amount of admiration which I deserve and therefore no amount of admiration can be excessive - by definition.

    (5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

    Do I expect to be treated with awe and respect, of course. But what superior beings don't. It goes with the territory.

    (6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

    Well I have to admit this is probably true. I have been building my career showing up OlbyLoons like you and that is probably not fair - it's like bringing a gun to a knife fight.

    (7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

    I don't give a damn what you think so I have no idea why you would assert this about me so you can just rot in hell.

    (8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

    Given my rhetorical brilliance, background and education it is difficult, if not possible, for me to truly understand what "envy" feels like but, of course, I see it so often in others when they are basking in my prescence that I know what it looks like. I know that is not the same thing but it is the best I can do given my station in life. That said, I am going to have to go out on a limb here and say that I am never envious of others but everyone I meet is envious of me.

    (9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

    Oh...bullshit.

    Bob,

    I had pegged you as only being the condition euphemistically known as 'fornicating pecans'.

    My bad...

    Gee, where have I seen the DSM-IV criteria for Paranoid and Narcissistic personality disorders before? Perhaps I saw them when I posted them long ago on this blog when analyzing Olby? Pretty unoriginal to now throw them at Bob, if you ask me. In addition, I am pissed that I was not credited. Typical liberal rip-off artist.

    Cecilia-- with all due respect, lots of us were here when that whole thing went down and watched it real time.

    I recall you chiding Bob, and I also recall that you changed your tune and ultimately defended him. But I would draw your attention to one critical fact: you changed your tune based solely on information coming from Bob and not by an actual evidence that was substantiated.

    What I remember about the incident was that you watched the entire incident transpire, all the while thinking Bob had lost his mind. Only to pop up mysteriously a day or two later claiming to have had some "revelation" (presumable fed to you by Bob) that changed your mind.

    I've read that thread more than once, and don't see any of the instability to which you refer. I see two people who had a nasty fight, and only one of them who chose to claim they were collecting personal information about someone, posting personal information about her family and make statements like "I hope some day you get what you deserve."

    The fight was certainly long and tedious, and the ongoing legal debate towards the end is rather technical. But I don't see any of the "instability" you suggest. In fact, what I saw was an apology from Marissa, and a request to take her father's information down. That was it. She didn't threaten to have the site taken down, or go off the deep end. She apologized to Bob, said the personal attacks on her were fine but that having her father dragged into the situation seemed unreasonable and in rather poor taste. I happen to agree with her, and quite frankly, I'm surprised you're trying to defend Bob's behavior. You're usually such a fair-minded participant around here.


    CID,

    If you are going to lie try to cover your tracks a little better or it take the fun out of my favorite sport - showing up Olby Loons for the fools they are.


    "lots of us were here when that whole thing went down and watched it real time"


    Really?


    That's funny because at the top of this thread you said "I'm not sure who Qualin is, or what exactly you are referring to." Of course, if you watched the whole thing go down then you certainly know who Qualin is because she is Top GalPal, her name appears in the post and she/you was a regular troll on this site, was an active member of the QuickTopic discussion board which regularly discussed the post you cited and is referenced in the post, and is now a site administrator on Olbermann.org and an editor on the Keith Olbermann Wikipedia entry who has made that entry her "pet project".


    Nice try, though. Liar.




    "changed your tune based solely on information coming from Bob and not by an actual evidence that was substantiated"


    The information I posted was Marisa own words from her posts on the QuickTopic discussion board (with links) and her emails to me so this is information coming from Marisa not me, none of which she has denied and for which, as you note, she later apologized. What her words revealed was that she had lied repeatedly and had engaged in precisely the type of foul-mouthed, vitriolic name calling that she repeatedly denied.


    Why am I not surprised that you will not address the fact that Marisa McNee is the one who published her name, school and email address on Olbermann Watch and encouraged ALL readers to Google her, to contact her and to ask her questions. You will not address the fact that Marisa McNee ask me to publish anything I could find on the web about her and that her initial reaction was indifference.


    I won't speak for Ceclia but for many readers, Marisa's instability most fully mainfest itself when she claimed to have filed a police report with the Ann Arbor police based on her absurd claims that I was "cyberstalking" her and that I encouraging people to kill her father. As for her father, his image/link is being served up by the MenloClinic web site not on the Olbermann Watch web my server. If he wishes, he can ask their web site administrator to block or remove that image from being served on Olbermann Watch. That he has never bothered to do so, suggests that he does not share Marisa's concern. In fact, if Dr. McNee were really concerned he might have contacted me directly which he never did.




    "I hope some day you get what you deserve."


    Next time you provide a quotation try citing the source so everyone can see that you made this up.




    "She didn't threaten to have the site taken down"


    Maybe Alex Yuriev, web hosting provided for Olbermann Watch and a contributor to this site will care to recount the hour he spent on the phone with Marisa McNee where she made precisely this demand.




    "having her father dragged into the situation seemed unreasonable and in rather poor taste"


    "Rules...in a knife fight?"


    This is a joke right - that you are going to defend the foul-mouthed Marisa McNee on the basis that something I wrote was in "bad taste". That after months of publishing the most vile calumnies about me on the web, I am obligated to respond according to her (or your) sense of what is reasonable?




    "the ongoing legal debate towards the end is rather technical"


    Technical? I hope Johnny Dollar will address this point beause he not only handily dismissed Marisa cuckoo-lawyer routine but did so in a way that had me ROFL.




    What I don't get is why you beat around the bush so much. You and Marisa want the site taken down because you have some pyschotic infatuation with Keith Olbermann which causes you to hate me and hate this site. The post you cite documents that you two nutbirds have been discussing ways to "take down" Olbermann Watch since the week it was launched.


    BTW, Qualin there is no mystery as to how I know who you are. I have a good memory and recall you posting that you lived in the Bronx. I recall that because I live near the Bronx. I didn't even have to call Uncle Karl to have the NSA wiretap you to trace your internet connection back to an Optonline (Cablevision) account in the Bronx. Just how many friends of Marisa McNee, living in the Bronx, reading this site and posting on this topic do you think there are?


    Try "the truth" next time - it will set you free.

    CoxIsDangerous,

    Your moniker says it all. What sane person would frequent a blog site if they truly had discovered that its owner was a danger.

    On the contrary, it's just your usual sort of drama queen behavior to be here railing about how threateningly you were treated. I say "you" because I'm going to assume that anyone who defends Marissa, IS Marissa, because that was the case in the past.

    If Bob is something more nefarious than the brilliant and grouchy father of 10 or 20 kids, that most of us have come to know and marginally enjoy... then why the hell are you messing with such a person?

    Flee for your safety, little miss martyr of the Olbermann Fan and Hair Club For Life set!

    Well there is a scenario that might suggest CID is Marisa; that she is actually living with Qualin. That might explain why the IP traces back to the Bronx. But I'd have to bet it's "Q" with "M" looking over her shoulder.

    The question is why are they suddenly bringing this all back up a year later? Why did Marisa email me? Why did KO reference just a few days after that? I need a conspiracy theory to make sense of all this.

    Jack Frost, can you help please....add in some black helicopters if you can.

    Cecelia wrote: "Your moniker says it all. What sane person would frequent a blog site if they truly had discovered that its owner was a danger."

    *****

    because "the only thing required for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing." --Edmund Burke.

    Bob,

    Mr. Personality Disorder may have mentioned you on the radio because you're posting again to Olbermann Watch and so are visible again.

    All the Olbersyncopants.com folks have a new site and are likely writing Olbermann about their exchanges here with we folks to the right of Al Franken (extremists...), who think a "news show" ought to give equal time to WH defenders instead of airing only critics.

    As much as I dislike Olbermann, I hope the chronology of events doesn't mean that he has any sort of actual relationship with Marissa. That would be so pathetic it would make even this Olby critic cringe for him.

    Jean,

    Especially if "doing nothing" hasn't garnered you any attention, pity, or occasions for histrionics for months and months...

    Thay are part of my undergroung revolutionary movement. We are planning to liberate this nation from control of the Corporate Lords!
    Our movement is gathering strength and pretty soon we will be in the strets. We will burn the death camps being built and prove to the world the evils of the Fascist regime. We will apologize to Al-Qaeda and Iran and allow them to rule their part of the world. Taxes will be raised and all companies taken over by the
    people!

    I was fortunate enough to stumble onto some info on our friend Jack Frost. It appears there was even a movie made about him!

    http://www.x-entertainment.com/messages/565.html

    He's making movies about his revolution!

    You looney righties better just get used to three more years of corruption scandels, incompetance, and low approval ratings. This administration is so corrupt, their chickens will be coming home to roost for years. What goes around comes around. And they`ve made so many domestic enemies that their misdeeds will be front page news for a while. It`ll be fun to watch them twist in the wind. All we need now is a good guillotine for the traitors at the top.

    There once was a libby named Jack
    Who couldn\'t be more than a hack
    Try as he might
    Jack couldn\'t be right
    But he insists on keep coming back!

    Once more, with feeling (and without the backslashes caused by some bizarre proxy server mishap).

    There once was a libby named Jack
    Who couldn`t be more than a hack
    Try as he might
    Jack couldn`t be right
    But he insists on keep coming back!

    It seems Jack Frost is gone! Planning his long waited revolt!
    No we have this new guy jt aka Jihadi Terrorist!
    Lets focus our guns on this Islamo-Fascist sympathizer!

    This very funny comment thread is now closed.