Robert,
I did not know your history or the exact nature of your beef with wikipedia, so was facinated by the article.
I don't want to be disparaging, but you kinda came of as an Olbermann-obcessed whiner. And maybe not entirely a person exercizing good faith, either.
Why did he mention you tryint to brand Olbermann fans "loonies," a subjective and derisive term you use here all the time, if you were not trying to do it there?
But the spookiest thing is, why are you letting your son spend so much time on the Adolph Hitler page?
Thanks for directing us to the article, cause now I am totally intrigued with Wikipedia and its transparent editing process.

blu - well that's great that you read the whole thing. I wrote half of it and even I got tired of reading it :-)

I like Wikipedia and use it so I don't have a "beef" with it at all. I do have a beef with Jimmy in that he has a stock set of answers for addressing the most obvious criticism of Wikipedia and they are unresponsive to the criticisms. I also did not appreciate that he made a number of false statements about me to the reporter but I am going to wait until I get back from Las Vegas next week to respond fully to an exchange which was mostly edited out of the piece.

As for my son...relax...I told Mark that story about the "Hitler did not like flowers" thing and we both thought it was funny. If you want to read ominous tones into that be my guest.

I'm sure you'll get whatever you want from MediaShift.

From what I've seen of Mark Glaser, he's pretty much on you and O'Reilly's team. Ask Terry Gross.
Most MPR listeners that I know consider him to be a plant from the days the CPB was under seige by the Bush Administration.

Could you point out what you find objectionable about the Keith Olbermann entry?

NF,

You read the PBS article?

As I noted in the "discussion" with Jimmy, I provided a VERY detailed analysis of what I saw as problems with the entry in a post I entitled "Entire Keith Olbermann Entry Massively non-NPOV" The substance of that post has been almost entirely ignored by the editors of that page except to make personal attacks against me and dispute my "right" to make the edits.

I would be surprised of you were to argue that my recommended changes are for the purpose of fixing the "liberal" bias with "conservative" bias.

You can also look to see the edits I made originally (all of which were reverted by the Olby Loons). According to Jimmy Wales, I removed many external links that were pro-KO and replaced them with a link to Olbermann Watch. As with many of the statements Jimmy made, this one is not only false, not only demonstrably false but something easily checked thanks to the much heralded "transparency" of the editing process at Wikipedia. Whether Jimmy was too lazy to check for himself or just lied to the reporter I can't say but there is no doubt that his statements were flat out untrue.

Here is a link to my original edits on April 6th, 2006; it is very similar to subsequent edits that I made. If you scroll down to the edits in Line 76, you will see that Olbermann Watch was already part of the Wikipedia entry. In fact, OW has been in Wikipedia since December 2004. It was put there, ironically, by one of the Chief Olby Loons - Qualin (a copy of her post discussing her decision to add OW can be found elsewhere on this site). You will also see the edits I made to ADD many external links to Keith Olbermann related sites and every single one is PRO-Keith Olbermann.

His distortions of fact make one cringe
It's beyond the lunatic fringe
The venom he spews
He refers to as "news"
His shrink says he'll likely unhinge

I read the article as well as the talk page for Olbermann's entry, and you dont come off well, Bob. For God's sake, just edit the entry and quit whining about it being "biased".

Oliver,

Doesn't sound like you read to closely but I'm not surprised you don't find any liberal bias in Wikipedia just "truth as you see it". It also sounds like you are taking at face value the many false statements Jimmy made about me and the entry. I don't really expect to delve into the issue but it would take you all of five minutes to discover that Jimmy was talking out of his hat.

If you'd check the piece again you'll see that I did edit the article quite a few times and each edit was quickly reverted by the OlbyLoons. When I persisted they sought to have me banned from Wikipedia. When I wrote a detailed account of the many flaws with the entry they ignore the substance of my recommended changes and instead made personal attacks against me on the Wikipedia site.

That's the point of my raising the issue - the liberal bias in the Keith Olbermann entry did not just happen to get in there but is part of a group effort on the part of a handful of left-wing, KO fans to turn the page into a fan site.

Even KO would disown their absurd account of his leaving ESPN because he didn't like the social scene in Bristol and didn't like the commute. Keith described his leaving as not just burning the brdiges but the river. He is STILL persona non grata at the ESPN headquarters in Connecticut. When they had the "reunion week" for SportsCenter, ESPN executives made sure the press knew that Keith was intentionally not invited.

That said, good to hear from you!

But Bob, it's just Keith Olbermann. History is guaranteed to forget him for all practical purposes at the same time it forgets you and me.

I hope everyone had a great, Olbermann free weekend. I was at a used book sale on Saturday and I came across a book entitled, " Old Germanic Surnames." Lo and behold, I looked up Olbermann and apparently it's Prussian for talentless coward. Hmmm.

There once was an arrogant jerk
Who had a show on a cable network.
He would host Tavis Smiley
Attack Bill O'Reilly
And his ratings? Near the bottom, they'd lurk.

I know how thin skinned Keith can be and that he checks this site now and then. I would just like to say, hello. Tool.

His friends include loon Charlie Sheen
I’ve heard that ’ole Chuck can’t come clean
Olby’s cohorts are whack
Keith’s just a left-wing hack
A moonbat that’s crazier than Dean

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