Right-wing blogs are jumping on this. I'm going to wait until we have more facts than just a word from Rove's attourney. My guess is a deal was cut, but I'll wait for Fitzgerald to say something.

What's that sound????

Oh, it's just David Shusters career going down the crapper.
Any network that employs him after this must be viewed as suspect at best.

I wrote on another thread that Shuster cut in to Tucker Carlson's program a few times, with "breaking news" that Rove was to be indicted within hours.

What a dope this guy is. I hope Dan Abrams dumps him immediately.

Take a look at Jossip. Seems Olby was hanging with Al Gore last night who will be his guest when he returns from his "vacation". Note too how Olby is already bashing new boss Dan Abrams. Must see the handwriting on the wall huh?

Brandon:

What did olby say about Abrams?

John,

Here's the link. Scroll down a little:

http://www.jossip.com/gossip/al-gore/on-the-scene-al-gores-inconvenient-sweat-glands-20060613.php

BTW, he wasn't very kind to my fav Tucker Carlson!

we cornered Olbermann and his self-described `friend` Katie, whose square-rimmed glasses and conservative red top gave her the `hot librarian` appeal without any of the vericose veins.

KEITH GETS HOT DATES.

. . .

What, we wanted to know, the hell was going on at MSNBC -- Rick Kaplan out -- Dan Abrams running the network? More importantly, Keith Olbermann answering to Dan Abrams? `I don`t answer to anybody,` Olbermann assured us. (Right-o.)

KEITH CONTINUES, KAPLAN`S CANNED

. . .

So does Abrams have the chutzpah to carry a whole cable channel? `He`s capable,` Keith said, an adjective he repeated at least three times -- and the most positive descriptor he used on Abrams.

KEITH IS DISCRETE.

. . .

Meanwhile, Olbermann was more happy to report he learned of Dan`s promotion yesterday morning during a breakfast meeting with NBC and MSNBC chieftan Phil Griffin, and not that afternoon when everyone else did.

KEITH IS CONNECTED.

. . .

As for ex-boss Rick Kaplan: `Smart guy, things have always been interesting and unpredictable.` Will he be missed? Not so much.

KEITH`S HAPPY KAPLAN`S GONE.

. . .

And Tucker Carlson? If he died tomorrow, laughed Keith, his obit would include his fight with Jon Stewart and mention of his bowtie `in the first paragraph.`

KEITH KIBOSHES CARLSON

. . .

And with that, Keith marched merrily on to his week-long vacation, from which he`ll return from on Monday -- with guest Al Gore.

KEITH IS MERRY.
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Bottom line is this: KEITH RULES. Whilst you sorry dupes are simply jealous losers in need of life ... like the one Keith lives.

Lawrence O'Donnell will NOT appear tonite on Countdown.

One of his neck veins has developed what is medically being called a 'hemorhoid'. Doctors have advised him not to strain so hard as he spews crap out of his mouth.

Hilarious post, Green Zone Blues!

The Onion has NOTHING on you! :D

Kieth gets hot dates?

Rebecca Lobo?

Olbermann carrying the channel?

He's lucky to get 1/3 the rating of O'reilly...or less than 1% of US voters-99% of his viewers already know how they'll vote. Being at the highest point on the Titanic is a best case scenario. He has zero chance on a major network, he made his own glass ceiling(...so he could watch Joe Wilson crap on him.)

Kieth gets hot dates?

Rebecca Lobo?

Olbermann carrying the channel?

He's lucky to get 1/3 the rating of O'reilly...or less than 1% of US voters-99% of his viewers already know how they'll vote. Being at the highest point on the Titanic is a best case scenario. He has zero chance on a major network, he made his own glass ceiling(...so he could watch Joe Wilson crap on him.)

Green Zone Blues,

Your idol is arrogant and condescending, and of this you are proud?

Bad enough he attacks O'Reilly on a nightly basis, but going after co-workers is a new low. Especially when those co-workers would NEVER attack him in any way.

Drudge was discussing how Olbermann and others are sidestepping this altogether. Hilarious.

`Your idol is arrogant and condescending, and of this you are proud?`

all the great ones are arrogant and condescending: O`Reilly, Limbaugh, Liberace.

`You`re nobody till you`re difficult.` -- Betty Davis

Ok, so KO talks to someone he blew off at an Al Gore deal, and the nicest thing he says about Abrams is "capable." Yepper, that's discrete. Kinda like saying "For a fat girl you don't sweat much."

What I see is that KO didn't like his old boss, doesn't think much of his new boss (although, that could be jealousy from not getting the gig himself), and has little respect for at least one of his co-workers. Hmm, no real surprises there, just surprise that KO would walk into that trap.

And, did you look around that site. It's like a more butch version of Musto in every article. No wonder KO spilled his guts to them.

Oh, yeah. Bagdhad is SOOOOOOOO secure. Things are great in Iraq. It`s just that the looney leftist moonbat liberal media doesn`t report on all the good news. This pic is just too damn funny.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060613/481/2d038d09d1f9433dabb44b98b8b60999

Dan Abrams is going to stick it so far up Opie's ass the he will be able to do squats on a fire hydrant. Opie's career at MSNBC is over and he knows it. Wildeyed conspiracy theories will only get you so far (until you have to prove it). Bend over Opie and spread 'em :)

GZB-

The reality is that you are incapable of looking past today.

Let me draw you the picture-

We leave Iraq. Do you think that it will be fashionable to characterize it as a failure? I sincerely hope that that is the lib plan. Seems out nation learned a lot more lessons from vietnam than you are capable of realizing. The vets coming back are going to be in the face of these sociologically inept.

For a party in decline, this is going to be a bold step...off a cliff.

`The reality is that you are incapable of looking past today.

Let me draw you the picture`

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no, let me draw you the big pic ... when the most powerful country in the world occupies the second largest known oil reserves, it does not leave.

the U.S. will never leave Iraq. it`s too strategically located.

even if a withdrawl is ordered, there`s still plenty of money in black op appropriations to keep the permanent bases going forever. even if the dems win this year, or in 2008, we won`t be leaving Iraq.

You mean the Iraqis are going to let us stay?

Wow you are more an optimistic about our new ally than even me...getting to keep troops in country right next to Iran? Wonderful.

Iraq is the fourth largest, but Canada at #2 could be next for invasion.

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html

Our presense there is a sign of success, and your forecast that we will remain?
Sweet.

`You mean the Iraqis are going to let us stay?`

good one. the `raqis got nuthin` to say about it. you know that.

Lost Blood: about 1000 soldiers a year, give or take.
Lost Treasure: about 50 billion a year, give or take.
Occupying the 2nd largest known oil reserves: Priceless

when you consider the cost/benefit analysis, it`s actually one hell of a deal -- especially given the strategic location and added power of regional influence.

Olby is a douche. He "answers to nobody" and he is also "viewed by nobody." Soon he will be "employed by nobody" when Abrams indeed proves that Olby DOES answer to somebody.

That picture of Tony Snow was not the only one:

Seems like he's havin' a good time. What's your point dopey? Is that the best you can do?

Stupid image! Here it is:

He's happy it seems to me. Counsel is never happy -- lawyers always have their game face on.

I simply cower in the corner of the basement every time I contemplate the towering might that is KEITH OLBERMANN!!! He does rule, and don't you forget it.

On further contemplation, Abrams will scuttle EVERYONE taller than he, so fuck off Opiemann.

Maybe Olby's hot date was the former teacher that Dan Patrick says KO stalked decades later. Support hose hide a multitude of sins, you know.

Two different photos. Look brave for the camera,

otherwise, look like you're crapping your chicken-hawk pants.

Occupying the 2nd largest known oil reserves: Priceless

Good lord, even moonbats that still don't shudder when Cindy Speaks stopped using the "war for oil" argument. A logical person (nay, make that a 4th grader) would realize that we're paying close to $3/gallon, in part because we didn't get the oil that the moonbats predicted.

Never mind, I'm sure that's also a conspiracy Bush put in place to cater to his oil buddies (folks learn those sorts of talking points from watching the show that comes in behind Headline News in the ratings).

"good one. the `raqis got nuthin` to say about it. you know that."

How long are you going to downplay the Iraqi govt? Every day their power grows, their police/military force increase.

Are you actually so naive to believe that they are irrelevant, now and forever?

Like earlier stated, you are incapable of seeing the future.

hey hit_escape,

Which photo is real? Was Tony super happy one second and terrified the next? Seems to me you are propagandizing either way, right? Seems to me that a photo does not tell you all you need to know, eh?

Maybe you should be quiet in general. Your post about Rove almost getting indicted for "plagiarism" and being saved by "Viveca Novak" makes you look so bad that you will never recover.

Are you actually so naive to believe that they are irrelevant, now and forever?

If the Iraqis are so "relevant", then tell me why NO ONE told the Iraqi Prime Minister that President Bush was going to visit. The PM didn't know until 5 minutes before the meeting happened!

"Drudge was discussing how Olbermann and others are sidestepping this altogether. Hilarious."

I wasn't aware Olbermann had been on TV sine the story broke, but leave it to Drudge to create the best straw man.

"If the Iraqis are so "relevant", then tell me why NO ONE told the Iraqi Prime Minister that President Bush was going to visit. The PM didn't know until 5 minutes before the meeting happened!"

Can you explain how this has anything to do with Iraqis taking control of their country?

Can you explain how this has anything to do with Iraqis taking control of their country?

Because the leader of one nation does not simply "drop in" on the leader of another nation, even if the two countries are friendly. This behavior sounds more like when the British Crown would visit their far-flung colonies.

Does it have any relevance in the outcome?

no.(Iraq will not rise or fall on this moment.)

It was a complete PR move, for the military and the US. Now does this have relevance to domestic politics? yes.(Does it help Bush on the margins? Hell yes. Judging by the faces of the crowd of military he spoke to, you'd better pray these people aren't being interviewed by any news outlet before November.

Both photos are real. If you click through my link, both photos are shown. Ha ha, Unger used my photo!

Judging by the faces of the crowd of military he spoke to, you'd better pray these people aren't being interviewed by any news outlet before November.

Have you EVER seen a MILITARY crowd that hasn't cheered for the President? I'll save you the trouble - the answer is no because all military personnel are required to show respect to the President.

What a surprise! TVNewser is completely SILENT about this. The kid who runs the site posts every negative, "gotcha" type attack on personalities from other networks (including Olbermann's attacks on other journalists), and skews ratings to MSNBC/Olbermann's favor by highlighting a specific demographic that the network has urged him to focus on. Oh, and they still finish last anyway, it's just a little closer.

But the most blatant evidence is when he completely ignores facts or articles that could portray his MSNBC heroes negatively. Case in point, when Olbermann finished second in "the demo" in April, he dedicated an entire, hilarious column called "April #'s: Olbermann #2, Zahn #3, Grace #4" to it. Fox, CNN, and Headline News all beat Olbermann in total viewers, by the way. In May, when Olbermann finished 4th in the precious demo, the kid was SILENT. Not one post about how Olbermann fell from 2nd to 4th in the span of a month.

When Olbermann attacks someone, it is all over the TVNewser site, complete with Media Matters analysis. When someone criticizes Olbermann, i.e. the scathing Lloyd Grove column, it takes days of pointing out his bias for him to be fair and post the article. By the way, the kid still said that Grove's column was a "personal attack" when he posted it.

Today, when a fact-based embarrassment for Olbermann, Shuster, and MSNBC is highlighted on websites with huge readership like the Drudge Report, he chooses to ignore the information.

The analysis I saw on this site about TVNewser was absolutely right on. Please, keep hammering this college kid's bias as often as possible. He's completely in Olbermann's pocket and it needs to be exposed.

He has been.

Great timeline JD!

To the scrapbook!

>"If the Iraqis are so "relevant", then tell me why NO ONE told the Iraqi Prime Minister that President Bush was going to visit. The PM didn't know until 5 minutes before the meeting happened!"

Gee, I don't know, maybe because it would be an unnecessary security risk? Seems that the Iraqi PM was surprised and excited to see the leader of the free world in his country (as well he should be).

Seems Andrea mitchell and Richard Engel both held the opinion that it was a significant boost of authority, and very helpful to Maliki.

Worth noting that every paper in the country of Iraq had Bush and the PM, together. You dont' become a world leader, without being seen with world leaders. That it was Bush going to Iraq was apparently a sign of respect...

If you want to have any credibility you can't try to take every news story that comes along, come up with some negative or potentially negative aspect to the story and then spin good news as bad. Yet the OlbyLoons continue to pound sand and wonder why they can't get their fellow loons in power.

There is plenty of bad news coming out of Iraq without having to make it up. If you can't say toppling Saddam's regime in three weeks, rounding up Iraq's "most wanted", capturing Saddam, holding elections, ratifying a constitution, holding "permanent elections", approving a prime minister, approving a full cabinet, killing the "emir of al Qaeda in Iraq" and Bush going to Iraq to meet with the new government are good things you are never going to get anywhere with the American people who tend to know a good thing when they see it.

My take is that left is so desperate to undermine Bush that they stumble when asked simple questions like "Do you want the U.S. to succeed in Iraq?" or "Do you believe al Qaeda is fighting in Iraq today?" I watched that failed Dem candidate from Ohio last night on The Factor and was amazed to see how he labored to avoid granting O'Reilly a premise. Asked "Do you want the US to win in Iraq" He replied with "define 'win'.

Puh-leeze.

`If you can`t say [Events in Iraq] are good things you are never going to get anywhere with the American people who tend to know a good thing when they see it.`

. . . . .

oh yeah, good things ... like nation building, unwarranted invasion, decimated infrastructure, illegal occupation, miniscule reconstruction, stolen oil, contractor corruption, collateral genocide, and sanctioned torture.

e.g., Marther Stewart: `It`s a GOOD thing!`

Geez! Mr. Dupe, are you TRYING to prove Mr. Cox correct? Do you see the irony in your post? You illustrate Bob's point.

`Geez! Mr. Dupe, are you TRYING to prove Mr. Cox correct? Do you see the irony in your post? You illustrate Bob`s point.`

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oh yes, absolutely ... i see Crazy Cox`s point ... how can the democrats expect to win elections when they don`t lie to the american public and call the abject failure of america`s war in Iraq a success?! instead of disseminating the truth about our iraq boondoggle, they should just do what the republicans do and blow bullshit up your ass about how well things are going.

the majority of americans, democratic candidates included, who think the iraq war a mistake from the get go are not saying it`s a failure because they are `so desperate to undermine Bush` as the right wing echo chamber would have you fools believe. they are using their reality-based faculties to call a spade a spade. something the right refuses to do ... because of THEIR intractible pro-bush stance. so for Crazy Cox to assert that the dems are a blind opposition is the pot calling the kettle black -- and it is HIS post that is sadly ironic. it is bush and you fools who refuse to acknowledge the truth on the ground.

`When the facts change, i change my mind -- what do you do, sir?` -- John Maynard Keynes

rather than change your mind, you choose to ignore the facts and stay the course, in whatever direction it leads. that`s why the majority of americans think this country is headed in the wrong direction, because it is.

Gee, I don't know, maybe because it would be an unnecessary security risk?

More Republican talking points - fine, the President is a high-value target. But that doesn't explain keeping half of his cabinet, the U.S. Embassy in Iraq and the entire Iraqi government in the dark. Does that mean they can't be trusted? If not, why not?

Not to mention the fact that Iraq is still a sovereign nation, one whose airspace and borders Air Force One entered without notification. That smacks of imperialism.

Here's something for you to chew on Mr. Dupe as you continue to froth at the mouth:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/06/democrats_are_winning_except_a.html

Here are the salient passages of the article:

"A substantial part of the Democratic Party, some of its politicians and many of its loudest supporters do not want America to succeed in Iraq. So vitriolic and all-consuming is their hatred for George W. Bush that they skip right over the worthy goals we have been, with some considerable success, seeking there -- a democratic government, with guaranteed liberties for all, a vibrant free economy, respect for women -- and call this a war for oil, or for Halliburton. Successes are discounted, setbacks are trumpeted, the level of American casualties is treated as if it were comparable to those in Vietnam or World War II. Allegations of American misdeeds are repeated over and over; the work of reconstruction and aid of American military personnel and civilians is ignored."

"In all this they have been aided and abetted by large elements of the press. The struggle in Iraq has been portrayed as a story of endless and increasing violence. Stories of success and heroism tend to go unreported. . . We are in an asymmetrical struggle with vicious enemies who slaughter civilians and bystanders and journalists without any regard for the laws of war. But too often we and our enemies are portrayed as moral equivalents. One or two instances of American misconduct are found equal in the balance to a consistent and premeditated campaign of barbarism. All of this does not go unnoticed by America's voters. The persistence of violence in Iraq has done grave damage to George W. Bush's job rating, and polls show that his fellow Republicans are in trouble. Yet when people actually vote, those numbers don't seem to translate into gains for the Democrats. . . The angry Democratic left and its aiders and abettors in the press seem to have succeeded in souring public opinion, but they haven't succeeded in producing victory margins for the Democrats. Maybe they're doing just the opposite."

The problem, Mr. Dupe, is that candidates who are supported by you and your fellow cut and runners are not trusted by the voters to handle the most important issue in the minds of voters: national security. The type of rhetoric you employ in your posts on this site has been heard over over ("Bush lied" "We're fighting a war for oil, blah blah, blah) by the voters and has been rejected as desperate lies and distortions. I guess you can always blame the voting machines (again) this November when your left wingers come up on the short end of the vote tally again this November.

`they skip right over the worthy goals we have been, with some considerable success, seeking there`

hardly considerable success.

. . .

`and call this a war for oil`

which, of course, it is.

. . .

`Successes are discounted, setbacks are trumpeted,

the successes are minimal, while the setbacks are legion.

. . .

the level of American casualties is treated as if it were comparable to those in Vietnam or World War II.

no, the level of incompetance, corruption and quagmire is comparable to Vietnam.

. . .

Allegations of American misdeeds are repeated over and over;

no, American misdeeds are repeated over and over.

. . .

the work of reconstruction and aid of American military personnel and civilians is ignored.`

the amount of reconstruction/aid is negligable, especially when compared to the daily instability and carnage.

. . .

`The struggle in Iraq has been portrayed as a story of endless and increasing violence.`

and accurately so.

. . .

`The problem, Mr. Dupe, is that candidates who are supported by you and your fellow cut and runners are not trusted by the voters to handle the most important issue in the minds of voters: national security.`

no, the problem is that Iraq never had anything to do with U.S. national security -- until we invaded/occupied.

. . .

`Bush lied` ... `We`re fighting a war for oil`

true then. true now.

. . .

`The type of rhetoric you employ in your posts on this site has been heard over over ... by the voters and has been rejected as desperate lies and distortions.

no, the voters have been duped/scared into voting for the right by the republican politics of fear and division.
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AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK!!

Just days ago three prisoners at Guantanamo Bay committed suicide in a savage assault on America`s freedom to not care about prisoner suicides! Oh sure, the `Blame Atrocities First` crowd will tell you these prisoners were `driven to despair,` that they `had no rights,` that they were `held and tortured without due process or judicial oversight in a nightmarish mockery of justice.`

But what they WON`T tell you is that these prisoners only committed suicide as part of a diabolical Islamo-Fascist plan to trick the world into thinking our not-so-secret torture camp is the kind of not-so-secret torture camp that drives its prisoners to commit suicide! This fiendish attempt to slander the great American institution of the gulag is nothing less than an act of asymmetrical warfare against the United States -- a noose is just a suicide bomb with a very small blast radius, people! -- and when faced with a terrorist attack, America must respond!

Write your congressman today and demand immediate retaliatory airstrikes on depressed Muslim torture victims throughout the middle east!

A demented nut typed:

>More Republican talking points - fine, the President is a high-value target.

Nice that you begrudgingly admit the Prez is a "high value target." How big of you.

It is no secret that Iraq is a dangerous place, and that we are the security for that country. It is also the responsibility of the US to keep our President safe. Despite good intentions, people talk. When Islamofascists want our President dead, I opt for secrecy when he goes to Iraq. That is not "imperialism." It is common sense (something completely foreign to you no doubt).

Mr. Dupes

Thanks for your response to my last post. Let me know when you are ready to make some actual arguments to the ones I presented.

When I put forth the proposition that we have had some considerable successes in Iraq which have been underreported and your retort is: "hardly considerable success", you have expressed an opinion, but have offered nothing to support your contention that the successes should not be deemed significant or "considerable".

I will certainly not discourage you and your left fringe cohorts from continuing to spew forth your "Bush lied, the war is about oil" stupidity. It has had a positive affect at the ballot box for Republicans as centrist and sensible Democrats have abandoned the Dems.

When Islamofascists want our President dead, I opt for secrecy when he goes to Iraq.

Secrecy is fine, but VIOLATING another nation's sovereign airspace and territory is something else.

When the President went to Afghanistan, he had the decency to tell the Afghan government he was coming, and that place is certainly as unsafe as Iraq.

Moonbats-rahter than have me summarize the success that is Iraq, try reading this:

http://www.commentarymagazine.com/Production/files/Taheri_0606.htm

It's the link to Amir Taheri's evaluation of the progress in Iraq. It may repulse you, but it was so good that Jeff Jacoby/Boston globe is using it in an editorial.

Link here:

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2006/06/14/signs_of_success_in_iraq/

Although Taheri lacks the title of Professor(as in Juan Cole) he does have the remarkable experience of being of Arab decent, and has an actual knowledge of the Country, or as Jeff Jacoby writes-
"Drawing on nearly 40 years of observing Iraq first-hand, Taheri points to several leading indicators that he has always found reliable in gauging the country's true condition."

If you find a flaw in the Amir Taheri writing, by all means let me know.

Hey, did anyone else notice Iraq has a constitution, an elected gov't, has gone from one of the most oppressive countries in the Mideast to one of the most liberal according to the Index of Political Freedom, and expects to finish taking over its own security in 2007?

Just checking. Because if you focus on the few idiots blowing things up, you might have missed all the really important stuff.

Someone should publish the history and progress of the Iraq war in cartoons. Seems cartoons and "Oddball" are their primary sources for news.

Ha! Stupid Moonbats. They get all their information from cartoons! I know they do, cause someone here said it before and then someone else said it again and then I just said it myself! Ha! Stupid Loonies. They must get all their information from cartoons! Ha!

Keep on posting kooks. Here are a few more brilliant images for you idiots:

Oh yeah! 9/11 was a hoax. Great idea for a cartoon! Get on it Olbyloons

Brilliant! Another cartoon idea!

I'd hit it.

Oh yeah! 9/11 was a hoax.

Um, the sign says `fraud`, which is a little different.

I'd hit it.

Oh, yeah. With Maj. Kong ridin` it down.