I know what happened. Olbermann told me to kill myself.

Simple as that.

Joe,

So you're not buying this latest lefty spin?

My opinion: AWB's post was removed because it was complete bullcrap. End of story.

Robert, what is your email address? I need to ask you a question in private. Thanks.

oops...I think in adding the new RSS logo I took out my address.

let me fix that.

in the meantime it is robert dot cox at thenationaldebate.com

I hate stories like this because they're almost impossible to confirm and just lead to people debating if they "believe it or not."

Thanks, I've sent you an email. I hope I get a reply.

At this time, I don't believe AWB's story. No debate required. Unless the whole affair is exposed as a hoax by credible sources, and Olby recants his apology because of it, the evidence points toward the Orange One. If these mails were sent from the Countdown show e-mail address, then more doubt would be cast on who sent them. Since they were sent from KO's own corporate address, less doubt exists. If someone else sent those mails from Olby's corporate address, then MSNBC corporate security has a bigger problem than potty-mouth ramblings (and embarrassment)on its hands.

NOTE: This post was updated a few hours after posting after OlbyWatch Contributor Brandon Coates sent me a link with the fuller version of the DU version of the A. Whitney Brown post that was taken down from Daily Kos. I elected to note the change at the end of the post rather than in it so as not to make the post too hard to read/follow.

" they aren't going to get rid of Keith--as he said, they care about $
and his ratings are better than many of the MSNBC shows in the desired demographic categories"

Man, those loons over at DU are just so delusional. They truly believe if you say something over and over, it must be true. Don't know if I'd be comparing ratings between shows at MSMBC. Certainly nothing to be proud of.

List of Common Sociopathic Traits

Egocentricity; Callousness; Impulsivity; Conscience defect; Exaggerated sexuality; Excessive boasting; Risk taking; Inability to resist temptation; Antagonistic, deprecating attitude toward the opposite sex; Lack of interest in bonding with a mate.

You need 3 to be diagnosed as a sociopath. Keith's got at least 6.

Keith Olbermann is asking himself " Where do I go to my moral authority back? " He might as well be wearing his own falafel/loofa around his neck.

Yes, because calling someone who accueses you of being friends with terrorists names is the same as sexually harassing an intern over the phone.

Actual dry heave inducing komments from Kos (from the sublime to the ridiculous):

"...Olbermann's personality -- his humor, his comfort in his own skin, his ethical sense -- are what make him special."

"He's one of the only guys out there who I look at as a real reporter, not someone spewing out an agenda."

"Keith is one of the best news anchors in the business. He has been at the top for years."

"Olbermann's being Swift-boated"

"Olbermann is the only hope for the mainstream media."

"If Keith's voice were lost, I would sorely fear for the republic."

And my personal favorite (obviously a true and earnest fan, elementary school division):

"The more they go after Oblerman, the more recognition he gets, this just leads to higher ratings for Oblerman."

OK, OK, I laughed my ass off. May God help us all...

They truly believe he's their knight in shining armor and will save them from the big bad GOP. Yeah, good luck with that losers. What are you going to do when Olby has that on-air nervous breakdown he's been working on for years now? I hope they had him hooked up to a set of jumper cables and were giving him some emergency shock therapy because if anyone ever needed it, it's Olby. The man's certifiable.

Joe, if Olby told you to kill yourself, why are you still here? :>P

I wish I could muster the obsession you guys have with this issue, but I had trouble staying awake through the whole post. (yawn).

Anyone that supports Islamo-Fascism like Olbernutdeserves what's happening to him. He's an arrogant jerk!

While I have disagreed with a lot that is posted here in the past, I agree with the gist of what you're saying here. This theory is entirely unbelievable.

I'm a fan of KO, but I also from the start had no trouble believing that he sent those e-mails. I'm also pretty sure that he would *not* fall on his sword for a lower-level employee, especially if doing so were to make him look bad publicly.

Yeah, me too, dude. I'm gettin' so tired of reading all of this smack being laid on KO. I'll be back later to see if there's any more, though. He needs it.

"Since they were sent from KO's own corporate address, less doubt exists. If someone else sent those mails from Olby's corporate address, then MSNBC corporate security has a bigger problem than potty-mouth ramblings (and embarrassment)on its hands."

I've been reading your postings on this site for quite a while, and I've never really been moved to post before. But I can tell you that, as an assistant, it's not unusual (and actually fairly common practice) for an assistant to read and respond to his/her principal's e-mails. Busy corporate executives rarely have time to deal with this level of administration. I do it for my boss perpetually, and I can tell you that he's probably not half as busy as a news personality. The moment I read about this scandal, I had my doubts as to whether those e-mails really came from their suspected source. I would not be so quick to accuse even if I had been its intended recipient.

It disappoints me that these web conversations deteriorate to this level. I appreciate it so much more when all of you present valid opinions supported by substantiated fact.

This story is total crap for a few reasons.

#1. Olby would NOT take the blame for something he did not do, especially given what would happen as a result. It is not in his nature. You're going to tell me the same guy who is mean to his underlings, hides under his desk, refuses to talk to people without a written request, and attacks everyone he has ever met decided to take a huge hit and APOLOGIZE for what some intern did? No f'ing way. In the event that somehow Keith became "gallant" to an enormous and unbelievable fault, I doubt these underlings would be silent while Keith took the hit. On the improbability scale, this ranks up there with Keith winning a Nobel Prize.

#2. You think an INTERN would write: "And how stupid are you? Kaplan and I detested each other." No way some aggressive intern carries on these conversations in Keith's name and in that manner. NO WAY. Pure BS. You think an intern would write: "By the way, with my new contract I could buy and sell you. Then again, I could probably have done that when I made $8500 a year in 1979." So now the intern knows how much Keith made in 1979? Or did the intern make that up? Let me tell you, if an intern did do that, Keith would be PISSED. He would not be taking a huge hit. What Bull Shit. Those e-mails had Olby's stink all over them. The "stupider, wronger, or dumber" comment is pure Olby. The outrage at making fun of celiac disease is all Olby. The "heads and dicks up asses" comment was all Olby. "Coulter's cunt" was him.

#3. If Olby didn't write the e-mails, he could say, "I didn't and I don't know who did." No need to damage his career. This has been in the Daily News, a paper with approx. one million readers daily. The Drudge Report, with millions of hits daily. No way he takes that hit. No way, no how. Man, Bob, were you smoking weed when you bought this nonsense?

#4. The post was pulled. Pure disinformation. The BS gets out but the unfunny clown Brown is safe because the post was yanked. There is no reason to pull the post other than because it is an outright lie. Keith and the pathetic shill Whitney are banking on the loons buying this line of BS. You see, Olby has no respect for his own audience. Believe me, he looks down upon them with all his might.

#5. Liability. Those e-mails are a workplace offense that could invalidate Krazy Keith's contract. No way he takes that risk. NO F'ING WAY. You gonna tell me he accepts blame for something that could be used against him in court should he be terminated and unpaid? In the midst of a management shakeup? To save some intern's "career" answering fan mail? PLEASE. I MEAN PUHLEEEZE!

This is a typical disinformation campaign by a desperate clown. The whole thing reeks.

If anything, Keith is desperately TRYING to blame interns behind the scenes, but knows that falsely blaming them would destroy his career. Better to slander them with Whitney Brown the clown via a left wing smear site. I would bet everything I own that the people at the assistant / intern level HATE Olby and would never stand up for him, defend him, or take the blame for him.

If an Intern did write these, wouldn't there be pressure for the real culprit to step forward? Seeing how Olby had suffered, wouldn't the valued underling so beloved by Olby run to set the record straight?

That post was pulled because the last thing Keith needs is disgruntled underlings telling the truth about him. These poor working slobs hear he's trying to blame them, they start talking.

Man oh man what a joke. I don't even think the lefty wackos will buy this one.

That makes him oh so noble doesn't? Blaming someone for what he knows he damn well did? I think the earlier post was right. The man is a sociopath. It really explains so much about his career. Thank you KFK for pointing out that only Olbermann could have known how much he made in 1979 and be able to quote the figure. I think these fan(atic)s of Olbermanns really are willing to suspend all logic to defend him.

He's the infamous, deplorable host
The moonbats removed his last post
His email's obscene
He's obsessive and mean
The one that colleagues despise most

nonfactor, I understand your need to justify KO's actions. If it were simply a response to a hateful e-mail I would agree with you. What has come out this week goes far beyond that, however. It absolutely reaches the level, and perhaps goes beyond, that of the loofa/falafel. I would suggest it makes appropriate the working cover of his upcoming book. You know the one with Olbermanns picture under the title 'Worst Person In The World' .

Tefaroo, Keith is no corporate executive! I almost spat coffee on my keyboard when you likened Keith to a busy CEO. LOL! Apparently he spends a large portion of his time and tens of thousands of dollars on E-Bay buying baseball cards; certainly, he does not run a last-placed network. That would be Dan Abrams, the middle-manager (snort).

I am much more likely to believe that the e-mail sent to the Countdown show address is viewed and sorted by one or more staffers and routed to its intended recipients, such as Keith, Monica Novotny, show producers, etc. Given the events of the past week, perhaps MSNBC might be better off letting a moderator answer Keith's personal e-mail.

Why would he fall on the sword for someone who could have ruined his career and reputation (and historically, he's done a fine job of that on his own), not to mention NBC's and GE's reputations? That does not make sense. If this incident happened to me, I would be in a hurry to find the culprit and have that person punished, including termination, to protect my reputation and shield myself and the company from legal liability.

NBC HR can retrieve every e-mail sent from KO's corporate address. They can contact the IT department to find out whose login, password and machine/device ID were used while sending each e-mail.

I am assuming that NBC has some type of Information Security policy that covers e-mail and Internet/intranet use. Most companies do. These types of policies clearly state that the company owns all information sent on its network resources. Typically, they also prohibit unauthorized use of another employee's password or account; prohibit malicious use of e-mail; and prohibit sending e-mail using objectionable language or content.

In addition, the policy is used to inform users that they are responsible for safeguarding their login information and equipment. Commonly, employees are required to sign a copy of the policy as a condition of employment, and as acknowledgment that they understand and agree to abide by this policy.

If, while working under such a policy, Keith (or any other employee) provided his login/password to another person to access his e-mail account, or if he permitted another person to answer mail from a machine that he logged into (even unknowlingly, by leaving a PC/PDA unattended and unlocked), then he could be held responsible for the e-mail abuse committed via his user ID and/or equipment.

Even if it is common for assistants to answer the boss's mail (such as if the mail is carbon-copied to their e-mail accounts or the assistant has been granted access via proper channels), it can be argued that the onus for compliance would still be on the boss. The boss should know what the assistant is doing and monitor what e-mail is being sent on his/her behalf.

No one from MSNBC has yet claimed that someone logged in as Keith and sent these mails, or that an assistant sent them with or without his knowledge. MSNBC, so far, has been vewwwwwy quiet about the whole ordeal.

If his login/password were hacked or stolen, then he could beat the rap. Is that going to be the next theory?

KO has apologized for the incident. Unless he retracts his apology, I accept that he intends to own responsibility for it. I was willing to believe that this sorry ordeal could have been an Internet hoax or a big misunderstanding. I still am, given a believable explanation.

If we take it that KO did write the emails then he is either using a backchannel to get out the story to the public or at least the OlbyLoons that he did not really write them OR he is telling his pals that he did not really write them to save face with them and one of them told Brown who is apparently less discreet than most folks.

Either way, I got a nice father's day gift and am now heading over to the U.S. Open golf championship which is taking place a few miles from my house (Mamaroneck, NY). I'm off to Winged Foot for the day - rooting for Phil Mickelson. Look for me on TV. I am wearing a golf shirt (maroon) so I should be easy to pick out. I'll try and wave to all of you.

I do not have a login or a password for my boss' e-mail account. When I open up my own, I see all his too. It's part of how people do business, common practice. I'm familiar with the practices of HR and IT and know that in any company, there's at least several opportunities for a person to access someone else's account and send, but HR and IT also could not tell if something sent from my boss' account was written by him or by me.

And by the way, I never likened him to a CEO or said he was a corporate executive. I'm just saying that in a corporate framework, it's a very common practice for this to happen. You know...a fact. Not conjecture, like when you say "He's a sociopath" when you've probably never even so much as run into him on the subway.

But you miss my point. I read your entries because I want to weigh what conservatives are saying about current government issues. I appreciate soaking up both sides of a story. What I get when I take a moment to read these discussions is a bunch of talk about e-mails that really don't matter any more than loofah or falafel, and a heated arguement about whether a noted baseball card enthusiast is driving up prices on e-Bay for a bunch of Topps cards he clearly intends to buy for himself.

I'd like to come back tomorrow I find you guys talking about "Olby's" interview with Al Gore and his documentary, and maybe even some scientific argument on whether this is really an issue or not? How the interview was slanted to frame it in left-wing ideals? Or...something else that's important?? Please make me proud of my Republican background. I know you can do it.

Your company must have some incredibly lax internet security is all I have to say. That is NOT the norm for 99.9% of the companies out there and your argument is weak at best and unbelievable at worst. Why is it so hard for people to believe he wrote the emails he admitted to writing and then apologized for? Who else would know how much he made in 1978/79?

Every company I ever worked for had that policy, because it's the only way busy people can keep up with more important e-mails...even when they own devices like Blackberries. It's what assistants do. And I've never not worked for a Fortune 500 company. Apparently you're misinformed. Call a few assistants and verify if you'd like, I'm not leading you on here.

And I'm assuming you knew how much money he made in 1978-79, and can verify that this figure, or any other, is correct? What was he doing in 1979? Delivering pizzas?

I sound as though I'm defending him, and I'm not. Perhaps he did write them. I don't care. WHY DO YOU??

That's why Olbermann had two email addresses. One that was made widely public (his blog address) and the internal one he used to reply to emails he wished to reply. If he had an assistant with access to that email don't you think that MSNBC would have known who they were? That Keith would have known who they were? Olbermann is not known for his being selfless. Anything but. If there was anyone else he could have pinned this on, he would've and apparently tried to before the holes in that theory were blown to smithereens, it's why I suspect that Brown piece was pulled so abruptly. But I can see why you never graduated beyond assistant: lower-level thinking will keep you on the bottom tier of the employment ladder.

http://www.variety.com/VR1117945434.html

Dopey News With Keith Olbermann: As a rare source of wit in the cable space, Olbermann could capitalize on his sports background -- plus his longstanding practice of biting the hand that feeds him -- and cap each day with an irreverent spoof of all the preceding shows. Think "The Daily Show," only here, MSNBC would take the middleman out of the deal, demonstrating how hip it is by ridiculing itself.

I agree with Brandon. I don't know of any executive where I have worked that shared a corporate e-mail address with an assistant or anyone else. This is strictly prohibited to avoid shenanigans and to prevent sensitive corporate information from being exposed. If an executive (or any staff member) had to go on travel or went on leave, that person typically appointed another staff member as a point of contact and left instructions for how messages are to be routed, if necessary. If MSNBC allows any employee to access to anyone else's personal e-mail, perhaps they should reconsider that decision, as should any other company.

I'm glad you all know so much about it. I will happily stay quiet here on my lowest rung of the corporate ladder, where I'm probably making more than all of you put together. At least I don't hurl insults at people unprovoked when I can't substantiate my point of view. That's where Mr. Olbermann has you--you can't say he wasn't provoked. So he is a step up from you after all. Three cheers for holding others to standards you can't seem to maintain yourselves.

On Johnny Dollar's own site:

http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/iblog/C168863457/E20060617191952/index.html

Cal Thomas: "All of them are trying to copy FOX News now to be honest. Many of them are doing tabloid, more big lipped blonde's and all this kind of stuff. There's only so much of that trailer trash pie to go around."

The question is was he talking about coverage of stories or actual viewers. Either way its not so good. I love the guy earlier in the clip who says "Just once I'd like to hear... more nuance." Right? But those people don't makes millions, so my ass will be parked right here next to my righteous indignation. Let some lefty NPR latte boob do a membership drive, cause that just ain't me...

Apparently JD thinks this is good news for FOX viewers. Maybe its just me, but I'd be embarrassed...

Days since KO covered Natalie Hollaway - 328. Days since Fox did - well, they're not quite up to a whole day yet... we'll let you know...

I did not insult your position and I don't care how much you earn. And you just hurled insults at people because you couldn't substantiate your point of view or refute their arguments.

I hold him to the same workplace standards that others must follow. I can't say if KO were provoked or unprovoked. But I can say he was stupid to answer (allegedly) the offending e-mails in the manner he chose.

Tefaroo sounds a lot like Keith, IMO. Philly's posts are incredibly polite, so I don't know what T's problem is.

Tefarro's chief problem is that they know we're right and that their beloved hero KO isn't all they believed him to be. And you now, they do sound a bit like KO don't they? Offering up conspiracy theories and half-baked versions of what might possibly could have happened instead of the unvarnished truth. And when that fails to work, boasting of how much they make a year (even though they are merely an assistant). An assistant to what we have no idea, I guess in dreaming up plausible denability stories for Keith that quickly had holes punched through them. So what's the next moonbat theory we get to take a swing at? Come one, come all, we're loaded with facts and our usual cool logic and wit and we're ready for battle. You know we're right and that's what's really killing you isn't it?

Days since KO covered Natalie Hollaway - 328.
Days since Brit Hume covered Natalie Hollaway - infinity.

Ever noticed how the Olbypologists, unable to defend the biased, slanted, untruthful "reporting" on The Hour of Spin, divert the discussion to Cheney, Bush, Fox News? ANYTHING to address the lies and slanders of the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann!

Days since the declaration of "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq: 1145.

Ever notice how the Bushapologists, unable to defend the untruthful administration, divert the discussion to Orange Faces, Olbymaniacs, MSNBC ratings vs Fox Ratings? anything NOT to address the deplorable lies and war crimes of the infamous George W. Bush!

Such trenchant wit. Such delicate shading. Such purty lights. Sure changed my mind.

06/19/06 -- Cheney said the biggest terrorism threat now "is the possibility of an Al Qaida cell armed with a nuclear weapon or a biological agent in the middle of one of our own cities."

gotta play the fear card early and often for the midterms.

Cheney defended his comment last year, often ridiculed by administration critics, that the Iraqi insurgency was "in its final throes." He said he was referring to a series of events, including elections and the drafting and acceptance of a new Iraqi constitution, that he believes history will show to be pivotal.

yeah, right

But the vice president did say that he underestimated the strength of the insurgency in some of his earlier remarks. "I don't think anybody anticipated the level of violence that we've encountered," Cheney said.

I don't think anyone anticipated the breach of the levees.

I don't anybody could have anticipated terrorists flying planes into buildings.

I don't think anybody anticipated the level of violence that we've encountered.

In claiming Cheney is playing the "fear card", Lies gives us a good example of why liberals have been shunted aside by American voters - and that they know it and they even know why.

Why do iberals get angry when anyone mentions the threat from al Qaeda? You'd get angry too if you had to reconicle so many conflicting theories on what to do about terrorism:

The Lewis Black Theory: It's real when it happens but not when real when the Bush Administration talks about it.

The Kristi Britweiser Theory I: it's not only real but the Bush Administration knows attacks are coming and hides what they know until after terror plots manifest themselves.

The Michael Moore Theory: Terrorism is not real.

The ACLU Theory: While terrorism might be real, concerns about terrorism should be secondary to you maintaining your right not to have your backpack searched by police when entering the New York City subway.

The Kristi Britweiser Theory II: the government doesn't know what's really happening with terrorism because Bush is incompetent.

The Howard Dean Theory: Capturing our enemies and putting them on trial does not make America safer

The Michael Berg Theory: Capturing terrorists or killing them does not make America safer, it only creates more terrorists.

The Keith Olbermann Theory: Bill O'Reilly is far worse than Osama bin Laden and has been at least 16 times in the past three years.

The John Kerry Theory: Terrorism is very real unless you don't think it's real in which case terrorism is not real.

Did I miss any?

In 2002, Republicans ran on the war on terrorism. In 2004, they ran on the war on terrorism. And, last week, Karl Rove informed the country that, in 2006, they plan to run on ... the war on terrorism. It's the political equivalent of Groundhog Day:

-- In 2002, the White House argued that, because Democrats wanted labor protections in the Homeland Security bill, they would leave the United States vulnerable to another September 11.
-- In 2004, they argued that, because John Kerry was a serial flip-flopper with no backbone, he'd leave the United States vulnerable to another September 11.
-- And, in 2006, according to Rove, they will argue that, because Democrats care too much about civil liberties, they'll leave the United States vulnerable to another September 11.

The White House strategy is hardly surprising. National security has worked for them before, and, after Social Security, Katrina, and assorted scandals, they aren't exactly swamped with good alternatives. None of this is to suggest that the jihadist threat isn't real. The Bush administration should be worried about another attack. Dick Cheney may even be right that many Americans have succumbed to a false sense of security. But, if they have, it is at least partly because Cheney and his colleagues have degraded the very idea of a war on terrorism by so relentlessly using it as a partisan club.

Philly was indeed polite, I'm sorry that everyone thought my comment was directed that way. Brandon's little comment about why I never moved up the corporate ladder was nasty and uncalled for. ("But I can see why you never graduated beyond assistant: lower-level thinking will keep you on the bottom tier of the employment ladder.")

Nice to see you guys talking about current events again.

War on Terror writes:

"In 2002, Republicans ran on the war on terrorism. In 2004, they ran on the war on terrorism. And, last week, Karl Rove informed the country that, in 2006, they plan to run on ... the war on terrorism. It's the political equivalent of Groundhog Day"

This could be because the war on terrorism is a serious issue that deserves our utmost attention. Putting it at the top of the agenda signals that Republicans are serious about the war on terror.

"And, in 2006, according to Rove, they will argue that, because Democrats care too much about civil liberties, they'll leave the United States vulnerable to another September 11."

Wrong. According to Rove, decisions about the prosecution of the war will be left to the likes of cut and runners like John Murtha if the Dems win in 2006. At least give Murtha credit for saying what he stands for. Most leftists (like you for instance)won't even offer a plan for what strategies we should employ since we are in Iraq, just sit back like your Orange Hero and criticize the war and ignore our successes.

According to Rove, decisions about the prosecution of the war will be left to the likes of cut and runners like John Murtha if the Dems win in 2006.

There you go again - why is everything except staying there and having another 2500 American lives wasted called "cutting and running"?

Have you read Jack Murtha's plan? I mean read the actual plan and not the NeoCon talking points that portray it as being "cowardly"? If not, then I suggest reading it before you run off at the mouth. Maybe then you'll actually have something relevant to say other than "Democrats favor retreat".

The Kristi Britweiser Theory II: the government doesn't know what's really happening with terrorism because Bush is incompetent.

make that Really incompetant

THE JERUSALEM POST (06/18/06) -- Officials in US President George W. Bush's administration turned down a 2003 Iranian offer to begin talks with the US, recognize Israel, and end support of Palestinian terror organizations, The Washington Post reported on Sunday. The proposal, which arrived via fax along with a letter of authentication by a Swiss ambassador, was ignored. Reports have circulated in the past that Iran had extended its hand to the US, but the document itself was only recently obtained by the Post - reportedly from Iranian sources - and confirmed as genuine by both American and Iranian officials. Former administration officials said that in failing to consider the overtures made by Teheran, the US missed an opportunity to prevent Iran from achieving nuclear capability. Flynt Leverett, who was at that time a senior director of the National Security Council, said that the proposal was "a serious effort, a respectable effort to lay out a comprehensive agenda for US-Iranian rapprochement."

BUSH IS PRESIDENT. O'REILLY IS THE NUMBER ONE CABLE HOST. REPUBLICANS CONTROL CONGRESS. KERRY IS A LAUGHINGSTOCK. MURTHA IS SENILE AND WANTS TO MOVE OUR TROOPS TO JAPAN.

Now those are some "inconvenient truths," eh Moonbats.

Love the cartoons. Maybe you can invent a "magic cartoon" that wins elections!

THE SENILE LEADING THE STUPID

Jack Murtha, hero of the mentally-challenged cut and runners, on "Meet the Depressed" with Tim "Froggie" Russert:

http://www.proteinwisdom.com/index.php/weblog/entry/20553/

MR. RUSSERT: You say redeploy. Again, Mr. Rove challenges that comment.

Let’s listen and give you again a chance to respond to the White House.

(Videotape, Monday):

MR. ROVE: Congressman Murtha said, “Let’s redeploy them immediately to another country in the Middle East. Let’s get out of Iraq and go to another country.” My question is, what country would take us? What country would say after the United States cut and run from Iraq, what country in the Middle East would say, “Yeah. Paint a big target on our back and then you’ll cut and run on us.” What country would say that? What country would accept our troops?

(End videotape)

MR. RUSSERT: What’s your response?

REP. MURTHA: There’s many countries understand the importance of stability in the Middle East. This is an international problem. We, we use 20 million barrels of oil a day. China’s the second largest user. All these countries understand you need stability for the energy supply that’s available in the Middle East. So there’s many, many countries.

MR. RUSSERT: Who?

REP. MURTHA: Kuwait’s one that will take us. Qatar, we already have bases in Qatar. So Bahrain. All those countries are willing to take the United States. Now, Saudi Arabia won’t because they wanted us out of there in the first place. So—and we don’t have to be right there. We can go to Okinawa. We, we don’t have—we can redeploy there almost instantly. So that’s not—that’s, that’s a fallacy. That, that’s just a statement to rial up people to support a failed policy wrapped in illusion.

MR. RUSSERT: But it’d be tough to have a timely response from Okinawa.

REP. MURTHA: Well, it—you know, they—when I say Okinawa, I, I’m saying troops in Okinawa. When I say a timely response, you know, our fighters can fly from Okinawa very quickly. And—and—when they don’t know we’re coming. There’s no question about it. And, and where those airplanes won’t—came from I can’t tell you, but, but I’ll tell you one thing, it doesn’t take very long for them to get in with cruise missiles or with, with fighter aircraft or, or attack aircraft, it doesn’t take any time at all. So we, we have done—this one particular operation, to say that that couldn’t have done, done—it was done from the outside, for heaven’s sakes.

HOLY SENILE OLD FARTS BATMAN! OKINAWA!

John Murtha, hero of the stupid. For those of you who don't know your geography:

Distance between Baghdad, Iraq and Okinawa, Japan, as the crow flies:

4899 miles (7884 km) (4257 nautical miles)

Distance between New York, New York, United States and Baghdad, Iraq, as the crow flies:

6009 miles (9670 km) (5222 nautical miles)

Hell, why not just redeploy to New York? It is only 22% further from Baghdad than Okinawa! We could get back to Iraq licketty-split!

This Murtha guy needs to be in a nursing home sipping his dinner and watching his "stories" on the TV!

By the way, I could have sworn this thread was about Olbermann. Maybe I was wrong. Seems all the threads are about Bush / Cheney and cartoons now. Goes to show ya that Bush Derangement Syndrome is dangerous if left untreated..

BUSH IS PRESIDENT. O`REILLY IS THE NUMBER ONE CABLE HOST. REPUBLICANS CONTROL CONGRESS. KERRY IS A LAUGHINGSTOCK. MURTHA IS SENILE AND WANTS TO MOVE OUR TROOPS TO JAPAN.

Bush is stuck in the 30s, and has been a national joke to the other 60 percent ever since his heck of a job katrina debacle and all the bad news that has broken since and continues to roll in weekly about this buffoon and his corrupt and incompetant administration.

OReillys numbers decrease as Bush squanders his smug political capitol.

Republicans are down by ten points in congressional polls for this years midterms.

Kerry and Murtha are both decorated war veterans.

The writing is on the wall ... watch and learn.

The GOP will retain control of the House & Senate in November. They are making poll gains each week and the Dems can't stay on message, they can't even figure out what their message is. Just as you people seem to have great difficulty staying on message.

>Kerry and Murtha are both decorated war veterans.

Yeah! Kerry and Murtha, two combat supermen! Give those two weapons and turn 'em loose! The only kill will be from friendly fire when Murtha farts and Kerry shoots wildly at the sound.

Thank God for a volunteer military. Never again will a raging coward get to crow about being a hero by virtue of being drafted and showing up.

Between the technical problems and the hijacking of the thread by uberlibs, I hereby rename this thread:

"What ever happened to "What ever happened to AWhitneyBrown's diary?""

Bob, a couple you missed:
James Theory on Terrorism:
Terrorism is only terrorism because he went into Iraq.

And the Cindy Sheehan Theory:
Terrorists aren't terrorists, they're freedom fighters.

And the Randi Rhodes Theory:
The Marines are worse than the terrorists.

Tonight Olbermann will gloat about his Al-Qaeda brothers capturing 2 American troops!
He's exctatic about this and will celebrate this event.

I heard he was ululating and shooting his pop-gun in the air when he heard the news

Another new story from today, MSNBC's hero Ray Nagin asked the National Guard to come into New Orleans, because of this weekend's murders. So, the Bush plan to use National Guard troops to patrol and secure our southern border is misusing the NG and spreading them too thin. But it's ok to turn them into police men to do the job that Nagin and the NOPD are too incompetent to do.

I feel a cartoon coming!

Good Old Nagin! "Come back" he said! "Repopulate the city" he said! "New Orleans will rise again!" Oh yeah! It will only rise again if the murdered come back as ghosts.

Never mind the National Guard road block! Set up your fast-food franchise and health clinics!

I say we annex Baghdad and give away New Orleans.

Yes Olbermann was giving thanks to Allah in his local mosque about Al-Qaeda'a capture of the 2 soldiers. His already did his evening prayers and will celbrate this as evidence his Islamic brothers are winning in Iraq!

Never again will a raging coward get to crow about being a hero by virtue of being drafted and showing up.

John Murtha wasn't drafted. He enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1952.

John Kerry wasn't drafted either. He joined the U.S. Naval Reserve in 1966.

Distractions. That's what they understand. If they don't like the subject, they change it. They know he's guilty but they'll never admit it. Although even the DUummies seem to be coming around to the notion that their beloved Olbermann wrote those emails.

Thanks Scott. I forgot about The Cindy Sheehan Theory.

Any more?

The Jack Frost theory:

There is no terrorism threat and we only invaded Iraq because of the threat by Iraq to sell oil on the world market for euros rather than dollars which would have resulted in a failing dollar.

Bob,

The conspiracy theorist's favorite. You know, the nuts who claim that 9/11 was a "controlled demolition." Olbermann undoubtedly has entertained these ideas. I call it:

"The 1984 theory of terrorism."

I decided to check for Moonbat works on the subject. Leave it to the San Francisco Chronicle!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/07/28/IN244190.DTL

I only skimmed this magnificently bizarre work. However, reading the piece one might get the idea that terrorism really doesn't exist at all!

In the book "1984," I believe the terrorism was perpetrated by the state to keep people in line. The Chronicle loons are very close to that declaration.

"John Murtha wasn't drafted. He enlisted in the Marine Corps in 1952."

Donald Rumsfeld served in the U.S. Navy from 1954 to 1957 as an aviator and flight instructor, training in North American SNJ basic trainers and later flying Grumman F6F Hellcat fighters. In 1957, he transferred to the Ready Reserve and continued his Naval service in flying and administrative assignments as a drilling reservist until 1975.

"John Kerry wasn't drafted either. He joined the U.S. Naval Reserve in 1966."

George W. Bush joined the Air National Guard in May, 1968 and was sent to Georgia for training. There, he began a total of 80 weeks of training, including six weeks of basic training, 53 weeks of flight training, and 21 weeks of fighter-interceptor training.

...

Whereas entire ANG units were activated for the Korean War, ANG aviators saw service in the Vietnam War as individuals attached to USAF units. In recent operations, entire units and individuals were activated.

...

During his service, Randall Cunningham became the first Navy ace in the Vietnam War, flying an F-4 Phantom from aboard aircraft carriers, and recording five confirmed kills, making him one of two U.S. pilots to "ace" in that war. He was one of the early graduates of the Navy's TOPGUN school that taught dogfighting techniques to F-4 Phantom pilots and RIOs.

That excuse has to be one of the lamest in the world and I appreciate the way KFK has utterly torn it apart.

It makes no sense at all that anyone, incapable of that sort of vile and unprofessional response, would then turn around and take the blame for something they believe to be wrong and unprofessional. At the very least, to buy this hogwash, would mean that Keith was tacticly protecting someone who should be dismissed if they wrote a MSNBC email like that under their own name, let alone writing it under his... What would THAT say about Olbermann's sympathies, the sincerity of his apology, and of his judgement...

It just doesn't wash. We know for a fact here at olbermann Watch that Kieth often writes personal letters to fans and foes alike.