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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    July 10, 2006
    As KO Goes "Choo Choo", MSM Circles the OlberWagons

    Like sand through an hourglass, so too are the days of our MSM shilling for Keith Olbermann.

    What to make of Bill Carter's craven profile of Keith Olbermann in today's New York Times? He must have worn out both sets of kneepads on this one. It sure looks like KO-Lovers in the MSM, worried about KO's sinking ratings since his "peak" in March and his cascading, loose-lipped email woes are coming to the rescue. How predictable.

    Carter must be a heck of a poker player, anyone who can "report" every talking point from the KO/MSNBC memo with a straight face would be a tough read. Here are a few choice tidbits:

    MSNBC cites Countdown as "its great growth story".

    Yes, in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King.

    That growth...is demonstrable, especially among the group that is chiefly sold to news advertisers: people between the ages of 25 and 54.

    Apparently, if you keep saying "demo" often enough Countdown becomes a hit show.

    The growth has not been unfailingly steady, as competitors at Fox and CNN pointed out. They noted that Mr. Olbermann did better in February and March than he has since.

    Translation: Olbermann had a brief spike in ratings as the result of an aggressive media campaign in the MSM and on the blogs during 2Q06 but has been sinking like a stone over the past four months.

    for the year, Mr. Olbermann has managed to climb past CNN into second place in the news channel competition at 8 p.m. among that 25-to-54 group.

    Huh? What year is this guy referring to? Olbermann is second place? Someone please correct me if I missed this but I don't think even Brian Stelter is flogging this tall tale.

    "You don't punch down," Mr. Olbermann said. "If you’re in my position," he added, referring to his initially microscopic ratings next to Mr. O'Reilly's, "you punch upwards."

    Line recycled from Kurtz piece three months ago. Does Carter not bother to research his subject or does he just not care that KO is feeding him a canned line? How about, "initially microscopic"? MSNBC's ratings DROPPED after KO took over the slot from Donahue and have NEVER gotten back to that level on a quarter-by-quarter basis. Apparently 225,000 is microscopic (Olby's low point) but 325,000 is "a great growth story". You can't make this up.

    Nobody at Fox News wants Mr. Olbermann to get any more of a draft from Mr. O'Reilly's popularity.

    Source: None. Reason: There are none. Carter is talking out his...errr...hat.

    Mr. Olbermann thinks he knows one reason behind his gains. He believes that Mr. O'Reilly's audience, which is still huge, is aging...MSNBC's research claims that the median age for Mr. O'Reilly's audience is 71, while Mr. Olbermann's is 59.

    Based on what?

    Fox and CNN both report that the only figures they get for median age of shows with older audiences is "65 plus," and that Mr. O'Reilly's audience falls into that category.

    Apparently MSNBC is so flush with cash that unlike CNN and FNC they are commissioning special research just to determine the median age for Olbermann and O'Reilly. Ha!

    With all that said the piece is worth the read for one great line delivered by Irina Briganti, a Fox News Channel spokesperson:

    "Because of his personal demons, Keith has imploded everywhere he's worked," Ms. Briganti said. "From lashing out at co-workers to personally attacking Bill O'Reilly and all things Fox, it's obvious Keith is a train wreck waiting to happen. And like all train wrecks, people might tune in out of morbid curiosity, but they eventually tune out, as evidenced by Keith's recent ratings decline. In the meantime, we hope he enjoys his paranoid view from the bottom of the ratings ladder and wish him well on his inevitable trip to oblivion."

    I think I like "inevitable trip to oblivion" best.

    My second favorite bit is Carter's shout out to OlbermannWatch readers:

    The references to personal demons and implosions touched on Mr. Olbermann's resume, which includes an array of positions over the last decade. At times he has been in public disputes with employers. More recently he landed in gossip columns after some nasty e-mail messages he sent were published. In one, he mocked the intelligence of the MSNBC host Rita Cosby; in others, he used vituperative language in responding to e-mail critics.

    I wonder how KarmaBites feels about having made The New York Times.

    That a rabid audience can be built for a political discussion show from the left, as it has so effectively been done on talk radio and on some of Fox's programs from the right, has not been demonstrated before

    Not sure how to read this line. Is Carter saying "before" to mean that "before Keith Olbermann did so, it had not been demonstrated that "a rabid audience can be built for a political discussion show from the left" or does he mean that it has not been done up until now and it is an open question as to whether Olbermann will succeed?

    Any thoughts?


    Posted by Robert Cox | Permalink | Comments (52) | | View blog reactions

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    I find it more interesting that the majority of the article is about Fox and Bill O'Reilly, not Olby-won.

    I'm trying to decide who put NYT up to this - Olby's agent or MSNBC executives. Maybe KO's recent alleged e-mail activities are worrying certain folks in MSM.

    Even the "demo" didn't hold up for Keith on Friday (in thousands). And this was from TVNewser!

    O'Reilly 345
    Paula 102
    Keith 68
    Nancy G 91
    CNBC 77

    Useful idiot Carter fails (deliberately, of course) to mention anywhere in his "report" the actual number of viewers that Odorman has compared to Fox and CNN during the same time period. How convenient for useful idiot Carter and Odorman. Also, you have to love the idea of Carter's convenient focus on "growth". Odorman goes from three viewers to six viewers, and he announces a growth rate of 100%. That nonsense will work on the fools who rely on Odorman and the New York Times, but it won't work for the brain cell endowed.

    Typical rescue story from Pinch Sulzberger and company. They did this with Air America when things were looking very bad as well.

    Basically the NY Times is a leftist propaganda pamphlet and nothing more. When a leftist is in trouble, a signal appears in the sky (a bat, of course). Pinch puts on his Birkenstocks, runs to the phone and calls Bill Keller. A few hours later, the puff piece plops out of the presses.

    I never read the Times anymore, and I was once a subscriber. The stock price of that rag is in the crapper, just like Olby's ratings.

    TVNewser will be all over this tomorrow, the kid already has a link posted. Look for him to shower Olbermann with praise and continue spinning the numbers, even though KO had his worst ratings in nearly two years against an O'Reilly guest host, Zahn, and Grace on Friday night. Oh, and don't forget Friday night poker on CNBC!!!

    Cub TV news reporter / College student Brian of TVLoser has already linked to the story about his hero Olby! I'm sure Orange Man was on the phone with Brian telling him all about the story while fluffing his wig.

    The New York Times could not sink any lower.

    [Insert talking point about the evil New York Times]

    [Insert personal attack about the author of the segment, Olbemann, or any other random blog]

    [Insert final line in hopes of being witty]
    [Fail miserably at trying to be witty]

    That picture with the article is so cute, with all his toys lined up behind him.

    Of course, they don't mention BO's increase in both categories outpaced KO's from May to June.

    [Insert talking point about the evil New York Times]

    The New York Times is a liberal rag and the stock price is in the tank. Pinch Sulzberger is a limousine liberal who is destroying the family jewel. Paul Krugman is insane, Maureen Dowd is an old harpy on the road to Helen Thomasdom, and former Daily News propagandist Bob Herbert can't write worth a damn. Friedman thinks himself brilliant when he is really a dim bulb. John Tierney is the only sane one over there and he is hidden in "Times Select."

    [Insert personal attack about the author of the segment, Olbemann, or any other random blog]

    The piece in the Times about Olbermann was both poorly conceived and poorly executed. As with any pet cause of theirs, the New York Times mounts a defense rather than writing an objective piece. Similar pieces were written about Air America, Al Franken, Dan Rather during Rathergate, and of course John Kerry a hundred times defending him against the Swift Vets.

    [Insert final line in hopes of being witty]
    [Fail miserably at trying to be witty]

    I am very witty!


    Thanks for the brilliant template! I will use it often!

    Hey guys! Brian here! Thought you might like to see my latest video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKt4EhTXrCI&search=star%20wars%20kid

    Correct me if I am mistaken. But, didn't Krazy Keith get a bump in February because of the Olympic programming and lead ins? I remember seeing hockey and curling on A-Mess NBC.

    So, all you Olby fans need only to wait till 2008 for the ratings to go back up. Patience my friends, patience.

    The scary thing is the crazy liberals believe in people like Keith so much that they are willing to fool themselves. They just can't understand why Keith isn't killing in the ratings. "It's just a matter of time" they say. After all, they LOVE the show. Of course, they fail to realize that they are the exception, not the rule, and that in fact they are unlike almost everyone else on the planet.

    The tiny bump in ratings from the Olympics and the O'Reilly feud gave Olby a little lift. I'm sure he's hoping the New York Times piece will help him again. I am sure the TVNewser kid is in a quid pro quo with Abrams / Olbermann as well. Only time will tell if the Times can help leftists anymore. From what I can tell, they hurt more than help, kind of like a legacy media version of Daily Kos.

    yeah, right.

    just keep rationalizing your way to dellusion, tiny mind. your unconstitutional president and your illegal war continue the long, miserable slide into laughable failure. so just keep shoveling the shit while you go down with the ship. it'll be great fun watching.

    They seem to be overlooking the fact that O'Reilly and Fox were mentioned far more times in that article than Olbermann himself was. What does THAT tell you exactly? The story here isn't Olbermann, it's his pathetic attempts to raise his own ratings by attacking Fox & O'Reilly and it's never ever going to happen. It'a pathetic excuse for an anchor and you people's pathetic defense of him no matter what he does is equally deplorable. You're all as delusional as he is! But you are very amusing to me nonetheless.

    Someone actually wrote:

    "just keep rationalizing your way to dellusion, tiny mind."

    Yes, rationality leads to delusion!

    As for:

    "just keep shoveling the shit while you go down with the ship. it'll be great fun watching."

    Is the ship the United States in your tortured attempt at an anology? I don't think you've "rationalized your way" on this one yet. If Bush loses the war, you lose the war, and contrary to current liberal delusion, that is a bad thing. You might want to root for the home team.

    If Bush loses the war, you lose the war, and contrary to current liberal delusion, that is a bad thing. You might want to root for the home team.

    Yes! We must win this war at all costs, even if it cost more to win than to lose. Sadaam may not have started this fight, but we'll definintely finish it, no matter what it costs. Even if we end up worse off, which isn't even possible, because how could you be worse off WITHOUT that evil doer Sadamm -- despite the monetary cost and lives lost and international relations and the status of our military. Our military is just fine, you dopey OlbyLib, and it's kicking ass right now ... HOORAH! ... and as for international relations, who needs them! We're better off going it alone just like Dubya has shown in Iraq -- and for that, he'll end up on Mount Rushmore. Ha!

    Man - All the moonbats are circling the wagons. The Deans at 5 "prestigious" journalism schools (UC Bekeley?) come out in support of the NY Times, The Times promotes Opie, Andrea Mitchell bashes talk radio (hateful - right Andrea), all left wing media aghast at Coulter, with 99 % of discussion focused on 4 sentences, now Tucker bashing CNN and Fox, NBC's Williams bashes Coulter's civility, the same week it's found Opie is whipping off vulgar, pathetic e-mails

    Unbelievable time for journalism. Has it ever been this dishonest and full of propoganda.
    You know - if you tell half a story - and purposefully omit facts, you're telling half truths. Half truths = dishonesty. Dishonesty = scum sucking bottom dwelling slimeballs. At this point - 98 % of journalists are sleazy dishonest, biased creatures.
    What is quickly becomming evident is that thousands of common folks out here are far more honest and can write dems English the same as dems in da media dus. Hah - now a legitimate search for the holy grail of journalism will be on for the great journalists - the unbiased, truely great writers...that tell the truth.
    If you find one - let me know

    Repeat after me, Clueless Dupes ...

    • Keith Olbermann does not have a hit show. It`s not a hit ... it`s not, it`s not, it`s not!
    • Countdown is not one of MSNBC`s most successful shows. It`s not successful ... it`s not, it`s not, it`s not!
    • Keith Olbermann will not be the host for much longer. He will not be the host ... he won`t, he won`t, he won`t!
    • Fox news ratings are not on the decline. They`re not, they`re not, they`re not!
    • The TVNewswer kid is a spinning liar and his numbers WRONG. He`s wrong, he`s wrong, he`s wrong!
    • Sadaam was an imminent threat. He WAS, he WAS, he WAS!
    • Iraq has always been a hotbed of terrorist activity ... it HAS, it HAS, it HAS!
    • The Iraq war is going great. It IS, it IS, it IS!

    Wondering - Opie being a sportcaster and all, if he's anything of an athlete. I can't stand these skinny uncordinated - or obese sportcasters criticizing an athlete
    I'd like to get a radar gun on Opie's fastball, if he has one, see how far he could throw a footbal (on a line) see how much Opie can bench, see if he can catch a punt or a ball hit to center field, or even if he can see a 128 mile an hour serve. I mean - he has a hard time getting into subways, let alone hit a fastball at 98 MPH. But he's certainly an expert on everything sports and political. I'd like to organize an Opie punt, pass, catch, bat, etc contest - right down there in See-caw-cuss to see just how many in the US are better at doing what Opie is an "expert" at

    US REVERSES POLICY ON MILITARY DETAINEES

    WASHINGTON -- The White House confirmed on Tuesday that the Pentagon had decided, in a major policy shift, that all detainees held in US military custody around the world are entitled to protection under the Geneva Conventions.

    + + +

    But only because the stupid supreme court says so. Stoopid court. Stoopid activist judges.

    Since U.S. military detainees were not given Geneva Convention protections before this recent policy change, I only hope this doesn't mean they were subjected to war crimes. Cause that would mean there's a group of war criminals somewhere in the U.S. government who authorized the previous policy.

    Looks like it's time for some hack legal advice from a local-resident-former-prosecuting-attorney who doesn't know his ass from a constitutional amendment.

    A crazy lefty wrote:

    >"Sadaam may not have started this fight, but we'll definintely finish it, no matter what it costs."

    He didn't start the fight? Okaaaaay . . .

    By the way, this is a global battle with al qaeda that we happen to be fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan. It is not about Saddam anymore. The first phase of the war was about him (the first few months). I don't know if you noticed that al Qaeda is fighting in Iraq -- perhaps you need to go check it out for yourself? I guess you watch Olby, so you probably haven't heard.

    By the way, the jihadists just killed hundreds in India. What exactly did the Indians do?

    Dude - relax, 4 very liberal judges - one who actually ran the ACLU - decided this was the law of the land, this was the law for appx 300 mil Americans. The people didn't decide this one - 4 very left leaning political folks wearing black robes did.

    To Pyrrhic Politics:

    The picture you posted is priceless. A tattered, bent mess of a sign hanging dangerously close to power lines! Nice job!

    You guys have a crazy message and you manage to display that crazy message in an even crazier way!

    Man, I couldn't make up this stuff if I tried.

    Man, I lauged out loud when I read what the Fox news babe said. Hilarious! That must have been worth a few naughty words from Keith.

    Keep punching upward, Keith. Swing and a miss.

    I just saw this. I know this isn't Olby, but I imagine this is how he looks when he attempts a sport of any type:

    Below -- before and after he lets loose a wounded duck

    Soccer anyone?


    Kerry Made a Funny Face!
    Kerry Made a Funny Face When They Took His Picture!
    Kerry Made a Funny Face When They Took His Picture And It Made Me Laugh!

    And those were the GOOD Kerry photos! You know, the ones the liberal media actually liked! I wonder what the bad ones looked like? Oh wait, like this:

    Kerry Made a Funny Face!
    Kerry Made a Funny Face When They Took His Picture!
    Kerry Made a Funny Face When They Took His Picture And It Made Me Laugh!

    Giggles wrote:

    "Kerry Made a Funny Face!"

    Giggles, dear friend, there is so much more to it than the hilariously funny face!

    Kerry ran around claiming to be a man's man. Just like his "reporting for duty" gaffe, his foray into the world of men was an enormous disaster.

    Don't play football if you don't really like it or know how. Don't pretend to be something you are not. There is a moral to the story and a story behind the photos.

    Every time Kerry catches a ball, his eyes are closed and he is flinching. He plays football like a gawky woman, yet he was crazy enough to think he was an athlete. I bet his press team even released some of the above photos.

    I KNOW Olbermann would look like this playing football, but to his credit he is never photographed engaging in any sport of any type. Like a true loser, he sits on the sidelines and gripes.

    Kerry looks like a Frenchman. What a pussy.

    Kerry`s Posturing as `Real Man Working For God` Reaps Unintended Results

    WASHINGTON -- Amid growing signs of disarray and malaise in the White House, U.S. President John Kerry is seen increasingly by the public at large as a failure whose policies regarding the federal deficit, the Iraq war, FEMA`s Katrina preparation and cleanup, warrantless wiretaps and domestic surveillance, and state-sanctioned torture, have harmed more than helped the country, according to a major new poll. The poll by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press also found that the President`s approval ratings remain near all-time lows and that public support for maintaining troops in Iraq has disappeared with most people favoring withdraw and saying that the war in Iraq was a mistake.

    My letter to Bill Carter

    Your piece on Keith Olbermann was taken directly from flase left-wing blog sites and MSNBC public relations releases. When I read your article it nothing I have not read on leftie blogs.

    This reminds me of the nearly two dozen positive artices Times has done on Air America, which is a financial diaster. Olbermann, despite taking seemingly nightly shots at Bill O'Reilly cannot make a dent in the ratings.

    Your story is lie, you facts are incorrect and your conclusion false. It is a puff-piece. Sorry, Mr. Carter, your article will not save Countdown and will not keep Olbermann's proclivity to rant against his enemies from being cancelled.

    Countdown, like the NY Times is loosing its butt. MSNBC is a disaster zone, you'd think a honest reporter would write about a well financed cable network going down the toilet and not being finanically viable (like Air America)

    My point---Your article was a left-wing propoganda

    >My point---Your article was a left-wing >propoganda


    You really had a point?

    My point---Your article was a left-wing propoganda


    This site is right winf propoganda!

    RCox:

    I noticed your entire rant against Keith Obermann reads like Fox News, and especially Bill O'Reilly. You knock every quote you provide yet, you do not offer any hard evidence. Fox, BO, Bush, conservatives always say "Some people say..." yet when specifically asked they can never say who those people are.

    I was a big Rush fan when he was in Sacramento. When he went national, he got nastier and nastier. He started making his points by ridicule and innuendo.

    I was a big Factor fan when it first started. Then it just got nastier and nastier. Points are made by ridicule and innuendo.

    I like Countdown because when KO makes a point about 'some people say...' he shows a clip of them saying it. I may not agree with him but he backs up his point with facts, not shout-downs, and cutting mics.

    We all need to view the 'news' with open minds and THINK for ourselves.

    "crshedd," your troll post is wholly inadequate. You violate several trolling rules.

    Don't start your post by bashing the owner of the website and Fox news, then try to pass yourself off as a former listener of Rush Limbaugh and viewer of O'Reilly. You broke the improbability meter with that. Don't be too ambitious when you write these things. Try to ingratiate yourself first, then bash one conservative thing.

    In your idiotic post, we are supposed to believe you once listened to Limbaugh and O'Reilly but now you dislike Bush, Fox news, conservatives, Limbaugh, this site, O'Reilly, AND you love Olbermann! No sale Olbermanniac! Back to Kos and the drawing board with you!

    KfK:

    Yes, I did listen to Rush in Sacramento. I live on the outskirts of town, right next-door to Rio Linda--if you know Rush you know Rio Linda.

    I called his show at least once a week (and got thru everytime). I often call after he talked to a man he called "Charlie the Communist".

    And I still watch the Factor. Because I do disagree with him. For example, tonight he talked about a professor in Wyoming who says he is convinced that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled explosives. Now, guess who BO had as a guest. No, not the professor. No, not someone who would stand-up for his right to say stupid things (these things evidently have NOT been proclaimed in the classroom). NO, BO had a REPUBLICAN representative who is introducing a bill requesting this professor to be fired. Where is the 'Fair and Balanced'?

    This is why I have lost respect for these guys. If you don't agree, you are a loser. You are accused of, how did you put it? Ah, yes, an 'idiotic post'.

    And, I am so very sorry for being 'too ambitious' with my post. I am well educated, slightly right of center, and I say what I say. I don't try to 'ingratiate' myself to statements I think are wrong, mis-leading or not well thought out. Forgive my use of critical thinking. It's a blessing...and a curse.

    KfK:

    I also would like to thank you for making my point. I said BO and Rush make points by using innuendo and ridicule.

    You disagree with me and make your point by just stating that I am basically a liar. Yet, you do not show me where I am wrong.

    You should have learned critical thinking in school. That means you look at all points of view and come to your own conclusion. Now, don't get me wrong, BO and Rush do say some things I do agree with. For example, a couple years ago Rush went on a rampage against 'treehuggers'. He stated that there were more trees now than one hundred years ago. He didn't back it up, so I did a little research and, by god, he was right. He won me to his side on that particular argument.

    But see, I used critical thinking. I thought he was probably wrong. But, I listened to his side, reviewed the facts and made my own decision.

    The point I was making is view all sides, then THINK and decide for yourself. Do not just take what you hear as gospel. And always question your conclusions. New information becomes available daily.

    KfK:

    I also would like to thank you for making my point. I said BO and Rush make points by using innuendo and ridicule.

    You disagree with me and make your point by just stating that I am basically a liar. Yet, you do not show me where I am wrong.

    You should have learned critical thinking in school. That means you look at all points of view and come to your own conclusion. Now, don't get me wrong, BO and Rush do say some things I do agree with. For example, a couple years ago Rush went on a rampage against 'treehuggers'. He stated that there were more trees now than one hundred years ago. He didn't back it up, so I did a little research and, by god, he was right. He won me to his side on that particular argument.

    But see, I used critical thinking. I thought he was probably wrong. But, I listened to his side, reviewed the facts and made my own decision.

    The point I was making is view all sides, then THINK and decide for yourself. Do not just take what you hear as gospel. And always question your conclusions. New information becomes available daily.

    "He plays football like a gawky woman"

    This from a man who sits down when he pees. Post some pictures of that, Pedro!

    crshedd,

    You are wasting your time. People here do not think. They have it all figured out. They are as bad as the rabid left wingers. What's funny is that the extremes on both sides are so similar: they believe lies if they fit into their political worldview. And they reject clear evidence (or excuse it) when it does not suit their side. Unfortunately, they are stuck with little hope of help. If you want proof, just look at the vitriolic nonsense that is sure to follow my post. I think it will prove my point nicely.

    Dear "Charlie the Communist" or whatever your name is,

    Sorry to get you so bent out of shape! I guess your statement that Olbermann is wonderful and all conservative hosts are biased was misunderstood.

    If you are not a troll, then you are clearly severely confused. When you say "[O'Reilly and Rush make points] by ridicule and innuendo," and follow it up with glowing words about Olbermann, who just happens to make the majority of his points through ridicule and innuendo, you look like a liar and a troll. Maybe you are just wacky and you really believe what you say. Anyway, carry on -- I didn't mean to interrupt.

    KfK:

    There you go again.

    Can't refute what I say, so attack. You call me a communist, yet you have written 3 posts calling me by my name, crshedd.

    I never said KO was wonderful and I never said conservative hosts are all biased. And since I don't automatically fall in line with your thinking, I am 'confused'.

    As HamuburgERRRRR noted in the post right before yours, the extremists on both sides, right AND left, do not want to debate, they just attack. They do not want to back up thier points, they attack.

    I can hardly wait for your next attack. Thanx, it's great to be an American where thoughtful debate died with our founding fathers.

    I thought you said that was your name. I didn't make the name up.

    As for everything else, as I said, don't let me interrupt. You have some very important things to say. Continue your constructive dismissal of this site, Mr. Cox and Mr. Dollar.

    KfK:

    You thought (correctly) in your first 3 posts against me that my name is crshedd. Then all of a sudden you develop amnesia? Dyslexia? Which is it?

    And if you REALLY read my posts, you will see I'm not dismissive of this site, just you.

    KfK:

    You thought (correctly) in your first 3 posts against me that my name is crshedd. Then all of a sudden you develop amnesia? Dyslexia? Which is it?

    And if you REALLY read my posts, you will see I'm not dismissive of this site, just you.

    I see this site as a source of information, some I agree with some I don't. I am trying to continue my political education, not stifle others.

    What are you doing here?

    crsshedd, when was the last time O'reilly cut the mic on someone? Is that something a liberal has never done? I guess not. They like to throw pies in people's faces. Bill O'Reilly has on all kinds of opposition on his show. He didn't in this regard. So what. He invited a knucklehead professor from Wisconsin to defend his belief that terrorist acts around the world are perpetrated by the US Govt and its' allies and the dude chickened out.

    Bill O'Reilly is a million times more fair and a million times less nasty and cowardly than Olby. How many baseless accusations has Olbermann stated and then let go unchallenged. Try admiriring someone with some guts.

    Debate is alive and well here. Don't be a cry baby, dude.

    By the way, the real growth story with Keith and Countdown is when he gets aroused when he has on convicted felon John Dean. At one point I could have sworn I heard a thud coming from the bottom side of his desk.

    KO tonight had a segment on the SPLC claims that the military is being infiltrated by white supremecist neo-nazi skinheads. So who did he have on to discuss their research? A member of the group (like Tucker Carlson did Monday)? Nope. MSNBC military analyist Col. Jack Jacobs.

    Your criticism of BO's coverage of Kevin Barret rings hollow when you give KO a pass for the same thing.

    Crshedd,
    KO tonight had a segment on the SPLC claims that the military is being infiltrated by white supremecist neo-nazi skinheads. So who did he have on to discuss their research? A member of the group (like Tucker Carlson did Monday)? Nope. MSNBC military analyist Col. Jack Jacobs.

    Your criticism of BO's coverage of Kevin Barret rings hollow when you give KO a pass for the same thing.

    dear crsdsrrask,

    You wrote:

    "And if you REALLY read my posts, you will see I'm not dismissive of this site, just you."

    OK, help me interpret this:

    "I noticed your entire rant against Keith Obermann reads like Fox News, and especially Bill O'Reilly. You knock every quote you provide yet, you do not offer any hard evidence.

    I am sorry, I think we may have a different interpretation of "dismissive." Claiming the site is devoid of hard evidence when the site is full of hard evidence counts as "dismissive" as far as I am concerned.

    As I said before, don't mind me. Continue to be dismissive of the site and I will stay out of your way.

    And you did mention that "Charlie the Communist" thing in your post. Who the Hell knows what you were talking about? I just assumed that must be your nickname.