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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    July 7, 2006
    COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN - JULY 7, 2006

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • WAR ON TERROR: Juliette Kayyem, terrorism expert; Richard Wolffe, Newsweek

    7:14 pm No briefing yet from MSNBC, so we're guessing here. But based on his track record, we expect the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann to regurgitate his favorite spin points regarding the NYC terror plot.

    1. Downplay the story and minimize the threat.
    B. Question the timing of the report.
    III. Cook up some way it could be a negative to the Bush administration.

    9:10 pm Comedian Keith Olbermann was off and running, bellowing in his opening spiel:

    Plans so far advanced that we apparently were not sure until after we announced it if the target was the Holland tunnel for cars or the path tunnels for commuter rail. (1)

    Maybe Krazy Keith wasn't sure, but the FBI was. KO takes a newspaper report that got the details wrong and turns it into some sort of indictment of the investigators! But that's why it's The Hour of Spin.

    So it's been all of 48 hours since "terrorism expert" Juliette Kayyem was on Countdown. Why not have this protege of Dick Gebhardt and Janet Reno parrot some OlbySpin again? And make sure never to tell viewers that she is a partisan Democrat. Quoth Kayyem:

    We're so far into the Cry Wolf stage that you, nor I, nor maybe anyone out in the field can assess the veracity of some of these press conferences... (1 again.)

    Then Olbermann:

    The story breaks on the exact anniversary of the London subway bombings...is this all very convenient for those people who would benefit from Americans being in a constant state of anxiety or apprehensiveness? (B)

    Kayyem's brilliant response was, "I think you're right". It's all part of a scheme to "play on fears". She went on to say these were "crazy people, bad people...but it's right to be skeptical". (1) Then the Wolffe Man showed up, and KO suggested the administration was "taking advantage of, if not creating, fear" (B). Wolffie thought the political impact would not necessarily benefit the administration because the American people were experiencing "threat fatigue" (III).

    Oh wait, we have an Olby News Alert!

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    Keith Olbermann announced that Monday he will have an "exclusive interview" with...John Dean. Stop the presses! Dean will discuss his new book, "Conservatives Without Conscience". We can't wait to see the tough-as-nails grilling the sports guy will give the felon. And congrats to Keith. What a get! Dan Abrams should send him a bottle of champagne for snagging this one.

    Recycled tape from NBC covered the 1-year anniversary of the London bombings. The introduction to oddball mentioned Oliver North, who KO said has gone 19 years "without telling the truth at all...and speaking of equine rear ends...". #3: Monica Novotny with a report on "Shakespeare in a parking lot". What, not Shakespeare in a hotel room? Then a feature on "singing rednecks", recycled from some local station. Bowing to the pressure of Olbermann Watch the top 3 Newsmakers included a clip of Joe Biden's 7-11 comments, but of course that means it won't be used in the "worst person" segment. Clever Olby.

    #2 began with KO bragging that he avoids stories that cross the line into "bad taste", to intro a segment on a new magazine called "Shock". Since this is Countdown, and it is on MSNBC, this was, yes, another piece of video regurgitated from the network mothership. Then: Star Jones, Brandy, Catherine McPhee (recently slandered by Olby), Shannon Doherty, Rosie O'Donnell, and that which never fails to satisfy Krazy Keith: Cruise News! #1: Running of the bulls.

    In the Media Matters Minute, Sean Hannity was a runner-up. It's a twofer: one pick fills both the Fox News and conservative slots simultaneously. Watch for the Soros site to have the uproarious OlbyVideo posted Monday.

    Luckily, it's Friday, and that means 71 Olbermann-free hours await. For this relief, much thanks.


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    Wish Olby had had this info from Raw Story before the show.

    "The so-called New York tunnel plot was a result of discussions held on an open Jihadi web site,? said Philip Giraldi, a former CIA officer and contributor to American Conservative magazine, in a late Friday afternoon conversation. Although Giraldi acknowledges that the persons involved, three of whom have already been arrested in Lebanon and elsewhere - are indeed extremists," their online chatter is considerably overblown by allegations of an actual plot."

    "They are not professionally trained terrorists, however, and had no resources with which to carry out the operation they discussed," Giraldi added. "Despite press reports that they had asked Abu Musab Zarqawi for assistance, there is no information to confirm that. It is known that the members discussed the possibility of approaching Zarqawi but none of them knew him or had any access to him."

    Methinks Karl Rove called up the FBI and said "whaddaya got? We need something for 7-7 day". Then he leaked it to the Daily News, who has often been a receipient of tips from the administration. The Miami group was probably more organized then these guys.

    Krazy Keith did a fine impression of Scotty from Star Trek tonight. "The physics don't work! The physics don't work! I cannot change the laws of physics! "

    Escape, you are right on target with your quote! I like this line:

    "They are not professionally trained terrorists, however, and had no resources with which to carry out the operation they discussed"

    Nowadays anybody and everybody tries to claim to be a terrorist without even being fully trained! Why, back in the day you had to get an advanced terrorism degree from The University of Jihad in Afghanistan, then do an internship for two years before you could sit for board certification in terrorism!

    You know, it is amazing how difficult it is to destroy things. You really need to be a very bright person to get explosives and mix in some nails and ball bearings and blow yourself up. Just look at all the brilliant terrorists in Palestine who work at their craft for decades before they feel accomplished enough to blow themselves up. Look at shoe bomber Richard Reid, who was a virtual mensa member. He worked on his complex self-exploding thesis for ten years before he considered undertaking his final experiment.

    You know, sometimes on the fourth of July, people blow their hands off, but they do so after training for a considerable amount of time.

    Just keep on digging escape, and you will one day uncover the grand conspiracy behind life itself.

    New York-New York-New York-New York-New York-New York
    You thilly Amerikans -- you got punked!
    Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk-Nyuk
    Our Terrorist School isn't accredited with Al Qaeda!
    When will you ever learn!
    We're not getting paid!
    We're not PROFESSIONALS!
    We're doing this on our own time!

    Rove and Bush are desperate and need to scare us (and that means Americans in all 50 states) -- but it's so old. What is so scarey is when there really is a terrorist alert we won't react. The buffoons leading this country are turning us against each other, i.e. this ridiculous website. Funny how it was imperative that we invade Iraq to rid the world of Hussein, who didn't have any WMD's (but a hell of a lot of oil) but N Korea (no oil) is allowed to develop weapons because W doesn't believe in diplomacy --- until now -- Beyond me how right-wingers can follow this man and his failed foreign -- "We just going to show them people how to live like we do -- no clean water, no electricity, women raped and killed. The educated class has fled Iraq. But Georgie Boy has brought democracy to Iraq. Wow. And we were supposed to get lower gas prices. On the bodies of how many Iraqis? How many US soldiers? And every day Cheney makes more money. And more money. And so does the Bush family.

    Sorry. Just angry with you silly people who are so right wing (I don't even call you conservative because that doesn't exist anymore. You hate anyone who -- I don't get it -- how do you call yourselves Americans -- you want war, you hate everyone (55% of the country) who want honest debate. Everyone is a traitor unless they follow Rove's policys. George is no gentleman -- he has turned people against their neighbors and friends. Some uniter. And do you right wingers stop talking to your liberal relatives. Or do you stone them to death?

    Bowing to the pressure of Olbermann Watch

    There's gotta be a name for that. Where you think you have influence over other people, but have no evidence to confirm it.

    you guys love Olbermann's show

    Sorry. Just angry with you silly people who are so right wing (I don't even call you conservative because that doesn't exist anymore. You hate anyone who -- I don't get it -- how do you call yourselves Americans -- you want war, you hate everyone (55% of the country) who want honest debate. Everyone is a traitor unless they follow Rove's policys. George is no gentleman -- he has turned people against their neighbors and friends. Some uniter. And do you right wingers stop talking to your liberal relatives. Or do you stone them to death?

    Anyone, including the right wingers, who posts on this site does it because they love Olbermann's show. They may disagree with everything he says, but they love his show. Why else would they pay attention to it?

    No, we do it to document his outrageous lies and distortions. And I do NOT watch it every night. Perhaps 3 times a week tops and that's usually on tape so I can watch Bill O'Reilly, natch.

    And it seems to me that the left-wing has displayed an equal amount of hate for the right. It's all you do, hurl insults at us like attack-poodles, totally devoid of facts or reason. At least we have PROOF of Olbermann's lies and distortions.

    Of course, Brandon doesn't like the show which is why he watches it multiple times a week. And I'm pretty sure the left does have proof of the right's lies and distortions. websites like newshounds.us and mediamatters.org document all kinds of stuff.

    May I direct some of you to more appropriate websites, ones that are more befitting your mental capacities and emotional states...you'll have to Google the names though, I'm not gonna link to 'em from here.

    One "master" is named Jeff Rense, he believes in conspiracies that tie the Masons to the funny pictures on the back of a $1.00 bill. BTW, the Masons are really the ones in charge of, like, EVERYTHING.

    Rense's British blood brother is one David Icke, who's deep into this shit that postulates that reptilian aliens are really the ones in charge of, like, EVERYTHING. Oh, and this moron thinks, of course, the ENTIRE Bush family are, you guessed it, ALIEN LIZARDS!!! Whoa!

    Go to any of the websites that support either of these "gentlemen" and you will be given further instructions, like how to fashion Reynold's Wrap into nice little hats that can effectively deflect the cosmic rays being directed AT YOU.

    And no need to apologize for your ANGER. It's the only time anyone listens to you, as if they really care, anyway.

    To Jill Perry, Nonfactor and hit escape,
    It's one thing for us on the Left and Right to have disagreements, but you Leftists have crossed the line of treason. You guys are the ones that divided America by calling us Rightwingers hateful, divisive and mean spirited in the 90's. It just bothers you the Rove has fought back and for the 1st time since Reagan we actually give you a taste of your own medicine.

    It disgusts me that terrorists are being stopped and instead of being grateful that our government is protecting American lives, Olby at the behest of his masters Soros and Hillary spews doubt and spreads false conspiracies. If the Government hadn't taken these threats serious and had let them go through then you guys would blame Bush. I hope that they let the terrorist succeed so that way the blood of innocents is on the hands of you on the Left.

    The Leftists support for the Islamo-Fascist of Iran, Al-Qaeda and Hamas is sickening. Your joy over North Korea is treasonous. The funny thing is if terrorists or rogue states harm the US it would be NY or LA where the Left concentrates that would be affected. So it would be mostly leftists that wopuld die in terrorist attacks. For that I say that would be poetic justice!

    Hopefully Olbermann with his seditious and demoralizing broadcast that puts Tokyo Rose to shame would be among the victims. That would be justice

    Jill,

    Considering that you've extrapolated a dislike for the overt bias and one-sidedness that typifies Olbermann's nightly "news" broadcast... into a dislike for every liberal on the planet (regardless of whether they have an MSNBC show or not)...my guess is that you're more likely to pick up a stone and throw it at someone.

    And you know you are too, otherwise you would be here on OLBERMANN!!! Watch....

    thank you very much. That was HateHater blogging live from a mental institution.

    Emperor Palpatine, can you at least be original? I've heard all that "leftists hate america" jargen over and over. Its the same old crap. You all repeat the same old bullshit.

    Actually everyone, I'm Olbermann's lover! That's why I defend that giant of a man!

    I'm just a jerk so get over it!

    but you Leftists have crossed the line of treason.

    I can now add 'accused of treason' to my OW resume.

    I hope that they let the terrorist succeed

    I intend to hold you accountable for that. And though I don't like equating stupid things said by a person to a political belief this stupid statement was political, so I think it's okay.

    The Leftists support for the Islamo-Fascist of Iran, Al-Qaeda and Hamas is sickening. Your joy over North Korea is treasonous.

    Any evidence there, hotshot?

    Common, I think even the average conservative reading this site would agree that this guy has a few loose marbles.

    I don't think this conversation is going anywhere. I swear, there's some people on this site who need prozak, real fucking bad.

    To Nonfactor,
    "Any evidence there, hotshot?"
    Absolutely. The Left's hatred for Bush and the Right as oppose to hating the Islamo-Fascist. How come Olbermann didn't discuss the President of Iran's threat of an Islamic explosion against the West if Isreal doesn't leave Gaza? Why no condemnation of Iran from the Left? why?

    Emperor, aren't you that crack pot that's wants to blow up Palestine?

    *that

    "I intend to hold you accountable for that. And though I don't like equating stupid things said by a person to a political belief this stupid statement was political, so I think it's okay."

    The blood would be on the Left's hand for undermining and minimizing the threat of Islamo-Fascism. Why did Olbermann instead of praising law enforcement for stoping this plot just bash Bush? The irony is it would be leftists city that would be attacked and mostly Leftists that die. Hence the the illogical mode of thinking on part of the Left by rooting for the Islamo-Fascists.

    Prozak? It's P-R-O-Z-A-C, and that is child's play. You need the hard stuff dude, like thorazine with a lithium chaser topped off with a 2cc mainline of pentylenetetrazol. Whoo-hoo, you'd really be flyin'!

    Let me try and pull this plane out of its nosedive to the ground by asking our liberal/left friends a serious question. And I hope it's not either tendentious or slanted.

    We hear a great deal - see the comments above for example - the charge that Bush/Rove are manipulating the public by exagerrating the terrorist threat. They do this, according to critics like KO, in order to silence the Democrats, raise Bush's poll numbers and divert the public's attention from the terrible domestic agenda of the Administration.

    We also hear a great deal - Dean made this accusation on Sunday - that Bush's policies have not made us any safer. That he has alienated the Muslim world and isolated the US from our allies. And because of his incompetence, we're not safer.

    Question: How can both charge be made? Either there is a terrorist threat that, in the view of the liberal/left, has been deepened by Bush's policies or there isn't a terrorist threat.

    Which is it?

    SMG

    of course emperor. As if those guys in Miami were really mastermind terrorists diguised as dickheads living in a ware house.

    "Emperor, aren't you that crack pot that's wants to blow up Palestine?"
    No the Israelis are doing it any way! I know it bothers the Left that Israel can crush Hamas if it wants!

    steve, you're not serious are you? I think its possible to chew bubble gum and walk at the same time.

    I wrote Keith Olbermann a love letter!

    just because there's not immediate threat doesn't mean we're safer in the long run.

    The threat is fake. It's part of Karl Roves plot!

    Come Monday Keith will be on his knees
    For John Dean, the felon, the sleaze
    Expect obscene attacks
    From a couple of hacks
    A disbarred legal expert? Oh please!

    I chew Olby's left over gum all the time.

    that crazy man keeps copying my screen name.

    OK I'll admitt it the whole Islamo-Fascist thing is made up. We fired those missles and blame North Korea!

    OK I'll admitt it the whole Islamo-Fascist thing is made up. We fired those missles and blame North Korea!

    That man's nuts!

    The only rightie who doesn't act completely assanine in here is the guy who runs the site, rob cox

    Hey Lefties, would you guys cry if Israel crushed Hamas or killed the President of Iran?

    is that a rhetorical question?

    Did you know I shot JFK? I also have Elvis hidden. I rule evrything!

    Answer it!

    Answer it!

    I'm one liberal. I can only speak for myself not the entire democratic party.

    Hey Anonymous, quit stealing my name, bitch!

    Did you know I'm really an alien from Mars. I'm behind the UFO sightings! I also banged Valerie Plame that's why Joe wilson hates me. She screamed out my name when they were getting it on!

    Did you know I'm really an alien from Mars. I'm behind the UFO sightings! I also banged Valerie Plame that's why Joe Wilson hates me. She screamed out my name when they were getting it on!

    I'll steal yor name!

    Valerie Plame was great in bed!

    Valerie Plame was great in bed!

    Why Karl, you cuckolding fellow!

    Johnny writes:

    "Oh wait, we have an Olby News Alert!

    >>>

    Keith Olbermann announced that Monday he will have an "exclusive interview" with...John Dean. Stop the presses! Dean will discuss his new book, "Conservatives Without Conscience". We can't wait to see the tough-as-nails grilling the sports guy will give the felon. And congrats to Keith. What a get! Dan Abrams should send him a bottle of champagne for snagging this one."

    and

    "In the Media Matters Minute, Sean Hannity was a runner-up. It's a twofer: one pick fills both the Fox News and conservative slots simultaneously. Watch for the Soros site to have the uproarious OlbyVideo posted Monday."

    hahahahaha! Johnny, you're too much! Remember the ole "Log-rolling In Our Time" feature of Spy Magazine? Where are these guys when you need them...

    Are there any adults in here?

    I mean adults so we can discuss adult topics. Like Olbermann supporting child molestors!

    Hey Emperor, let me ask you a question. Do you support bringing democracy to Iraq?

    It's Friday, and everyone's drunk. As they well should be...

    No, I supported only a Genghis Khan style invasion to level the Mideast and set it back 1000 years.

    No, seriously. Do you support bringing democracy to Iraq?

    The righties want to kill people. The President of Iran? Why is that? Anyone who disagrees with Bush's failed policies must be killed -- unless he has a NUKE. Why are you right wingers so willing to kill people? Anyone who disagrees with Rummy, Cheney and their puppet Georgie Boy? Oh, so sorry I should show more respect for the president of the US. But, wait, he doesn't show any respect for us. Barb always told him he was KING. And you know his Amuricans are his loyal subject -- uh, peasants, un, whatever. Are you better off today than you were 6 years ago? How 'bout those gas prices. Thank you, thank you, George and Dick. It's called screw Americans. And you suckers support these crooks. You shoud be so ashamed.

    The righties want to kill people. The President of Iran? Why is that? Anyone who disagrees with Bush's failed policies must be killed -- unless he has a NUKE. Why are you right wingers so willing to kill people? Anyone who disagrees with Rummy, Cheney and their puppet Georgie Boy? Oh, so sorry I should show more respect for the president of the US. But, wait, he doesn't show any respect for us. Barb always told him he was KING. And you know his Amuricans are his loyal subject -- uh, peasants, un, whatever. Are you better off today than you were 6 years ago? How 'bout those gas prices. Thank you, thank you, George and Dick. It's called screw Americans. And you suckers support these crooks. You shoud be so ashamed.

    The righties want to kill people. The President of Iran? Why is that? Anyone who disagrees with Bush's failed policies must be killed -- unless he has a NUKE. Why are you right wingers so willing to kill people? Anyone who disagrees with Rummy, Cheney and their puppet Georgie Boy? Oh, so sorry I should show more respect for the president of the US. But, wait, he doesn't show any respect for us. Barb always told him he was KING. And you know his Amuricans are his loyal subject -- uh, peasants, un, whatever. Are you better off today than you were 6 years ago? How 'bout those gas prices. Thank you, thank you, George and Dick. It's called screw Americans. And you suckers support these crooks. You shoud be so ashamed.

    The righties want to kill people. The President of Iran? Why is that? Anyone who disagrees with Bush's failed policies must be killed -- unless he has a NUKE. Why are you right wingers so willing to kill people? Anyone who disagrees with Rummy, Cheney and their puppet Georgie Boy? Oh, so sorry I should show more respect for the president of the US. But, wait, he doesn't show any respect for us. Barb always told him he was KING. And you know his Amuricans are his loyal subject -- uh, peasants, un, whatever. Are you better off today than you were 6 years ago? How 'bout those gas prices. Thank you, thank you, George and Dick. It's called screw Americans. And you suckers support these crooks. You shoud be so ashamed.

    Jill,
    "The righties want to kill people. The President of Iran? Why is that?"
    He wants to wipe Israel an American ally off the map. He denies the Holocaust. He's also threating an Islamic explosion against the west.

    Jill, you proved my point. The left admires Islamo-Fascism.

    Emperor Palpatine, do you or do you not support bring democracy to Iraq?

    steve, you're not serious are you? I think its possible to chew bubble gum and walk at the same time.

    Sorry, I have no idea what your response means. And yes I'm serious.

    Is Islamic radicalism/terrorist a significant threat or is it not?

    If it's a significant and real threat, how can one allege that Rove has made the danger up (for the most part). If it's not a threat, how can one say that Bush's policies have made us no safer since 9/11?

    Now obviously one can both say it's a real threat and also that Rove has exagerrated it. But in order to say that, one has to admit it's a real and serious threat.

    So, is the danger from radical Islamists real or not?

    And I know I'm hoping against hope in trying to save this thread. It's probably a lost cause but I'm go for it.

    SMG

    Jill, speak for yourself.

    "No, seriously. Do you support bringing democracy to Iraq?"
    No we shoul've off leveled Iraq, Iran, Syria and Afghanistan back into the stone age!

    steve, you're full of malarkey. I responded to your question. I said that just because there's no immediate threat, that doesn't mean we're safer in the long run.

    Steve,
    Jill is a supporter of Islamo-Fascism.

    Jill, will you cry when Israel smashes Hamas?

    Emperor, I'm pretty sure all those countries pretty much ARE in the stone ages. What kinda fucked up country does beheadings?

    Jill:
    Good God, post ONCE, are you SPASTIC? It's just like that moron "Ed Neilly" earlier. Go back to kos and learn yourself some manners. Never mind.

    "Emperor, I'm pretty sure all those countries pretty much ARE in the stone ages. What kinda fucked up country does beheadings?"

    Good point, it would be like beating a dead horse!

    You're probably a liberal not Leftist. I differentiate between the 2.

    leave jill alone. Its obvious she doesn't know what she's talking about. Had she known that the leader of Iran wanted to "blow Israel off the map", I don't think she would have said what she did.

    "Emperor, I'm pretty sure all those countries pretty much ARE in the stone ages. What kinda fucked up country does beheadings?"

    Good point, it would be like beating a dead horse!

    You're probably a liberal not Leftist. I differentiate between the 2.

    Just give me a "yes" or "no". Do you support bringing democracy to Iraq?

    Reluctantly yes.

    reluctantly? what do you mean?

    Jill,
    You're just mad I dumped you once I met Valarie Plame. You missed the 3 hours of pleasue I gave you!

    Jill,
    You're just mad I dumped you once I met Valarie Plame. You missed the 3 hours of pleasue I gave you!

    steve, you're full of malarkey. I responded to your question. I said that just because there's no immediate threat, that doesn't mean we're safer in the long run.

    Sorry, you said something about walking and chewing gum at the same time. I had no idea what that meant.

    So there's no immediate threat.

    When Dean or Kennedy or Kerry or Boxer or other liberals say we're no safer now than we were before 9/11 (and you can go to the DNC website and find the quotes), your response is?

    Look my friend, the problem is that your party is just off its rockers. The statements coming from you folks emanate soley from a pathological hatred of Bush and anyone on the right. You guys and gals think, for some odd reason, that Bush and the neocons and the conservatives are more of a threat than radical Islam.

    And that is just nuts. And it's why you guys won't be running things again in this country for a long, long time.

    SMG

    I don't give a damn about those savages. I just wanted to see an Arab country smashed.

    yeah steve, if by long long time, you mean like 7 months from now when the new congress gets sworn in.

    Jill justs miss my good loving!

    Hey Karl, you're gonna run her off. I'm about to make my move if one of these impostors don't beat me to it...

    emperor, tens of thousands of Iraqi Civilians are dead, including women and children and Iraq didn't even have the WMD's bush said they had. Do you approve of that?

    Yeah you guys will hold a bare majority in either the house or senate. Then in 2008 Guilliani will come crush Hillary Stalin Clinton
    have massive coattails and the GOP will be in charge again.

    yeah steve, if by long long time, you mean like 7 months from now when the new congress gets sworn in.

    Not going to happen.

    Oh, I don't doubt that 4 years from now or 6, the Democrats may pick up enough seats to capture the House for a while. If the economy sours, anything is possible.

    But running one branch of government isn't running the country. And once the radical Islamists strike again, the public will go back to the folks who recognized where the real threat to the country came from. And that is not folks with a different political affiliation.

    George Bush is not your enemy. Radical Islam is.

    And it's my enemy too. Once you guys figure that out, then maybe you'll get to drive the country.

    Until then, dream on.

    SMG

    What the hell is Islami Fascism? Something you nut jobs from the right have made up. Wow. So now anyone who disagrees with Bush's policies for Amurican is an Islami Fascist -- which means what? An Islami Fascist hates Israel? - provide some proof An Islami Fascist is a democrat? like to see some proof of that, too. And yetyou right wingers never acknowledge the lies that Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney told that lead us into war. Proof that is on the record. Lies that are on the record. But that doesn't matter. Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney who are devote Christians feel that by supporting "supposedly supporting" Israel they can bring on the Book of Revelations sooner -- and then GOD himself will wipe out all Jews who have not become Republican Christians. And fire brand Jesus with a Uzi, who looks just like Baby George, will appear in the sky and non-believers in the GOP will be smote or smited or whatever. And then the true Isalmic Fascists --- Georgie and Dickie can rule the WORLD. As Georgie said last night about Kenny Boy that he hoped he was all right with the Lord -- who is whom? The lord is MIDAS? Beats the hell out of me who these Christian nut jobs believe in. Did Jesus believe in TORTURE? Turn the other cheek must have been written by some Islamic Fascist nut job. Right?

    "emperor, tens of thousands of Iraqi Civilians are dead, including women and children and Iraq didn't even have the WMD's bush said they had. Do you approve of that?"

    Many of those civilians where killed by Al-Qaeda. I honestly don't care for those people and their stupid religion that was founded Mohhamed, who was a genocidal pedophile. What abou Israelis that have dies at clubs and pizzareas?

    Giuliani? Do you think he could even win the republican nomination? He's been divorced like twice and kicked his wife out of the Mayor's Mansion (or whatever) to make way for that 20 something he was bangin. I don't think the base will approve of that.

    What the hell is Islami Fascism?

    Good grief. Today (7/7) is the first anniversary of the London tube bombings.

    Bombings done by folks who think Jews are pigs. Who think women should be forced to live all their lives inside. And not vote. Or drive cars. And a hundred-and-one other barbarities.

    And then she asks, "What's Islamic fascism"?

    Talk about sleepwalking through history.

    SMG

    steve said "And once the radical Islamists strike again, the public will go back to the folks who recognized where the real threat to the country came from". Right, the party that let Bin Laden off scott free and then headed to Iraq for no reason.

    "What the hell is Islami Fascism? Something you nut jobs from the right have made up."

    Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Hezzbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, The Muslim Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda.

    Jill, what do have to say about Iran's president threating to wipe Israel off the map and unleashing an Islamic explosion through the West?
    Answer that one!

    "Giuliani? Do you think he could even win the republican nomination?"
    Absolutely, he's a Nationalist and is to the Right of Bush on fiscal policy and foreighn policy.

    Emperor, what is your age?

    "Giuliani? Do you think he could even win the republican nomination?"
    Absolutely, he's a Nationalist and is to the Right of Bush on fiscal policy and foreighn policy.

    Right, the party that let Bin Laden off scott free and then headed to Iraq for no reason.

    Right, we just let him go.

    The military in Afhganistan screwed up. Gen. Franks thought he had enough troops and Afhgani tribesman to corner bin Laden.

    He was wrong.

    How that means we "let him go scot free" is just silly.

    Why did Clinton keep telling us in the 1990s that Iraq was a threat to the US? Why did the State Department under Clinton list Iraq as a state sponsor of terrorism? Why did the Clinton Justice Department state that bin Laden was working with Iraq? Why did Iraq violate UN resolutions for 12 years? Whyd did Iraq try to assassinate Bush, Sr?

    No reason?

    Hey Karl, don't you think Jill's gonna look smokin' HOT in a burkha? Wooo-hooo!

    Karl Rove is a bigger threat to the world than Iran. Islamic Fascists don't exist except for the RNC talking points! Israelis are evil and I hope Iran wipes them off the map!

    Georgie disbanded the CIA unit who's goal was to hunt down bin laden. BTW, you seem to have mastered the wingnut strategy of blaming everything on clinton. congrats.

    hey palpatine, I've asked you like three times already, what is your age?

    BTW, you seem to have mastered the wingnut strategy of blaming everything on clinton.

    I didn't blame anything on Clinton. Where did I do that?

    You said we went into Iraq for "no reason."

    I cited the reasons that Clinton made for removing Saddam.

    Bush stated those same reasons.

    Why were the reasons good when Clinton made them but bad when Bush made them?

    SMG

    "Georgie disbanded the CIA unit who's goal was to hunt down bin laden."
    that's becase the CIA is incompetempt and full of leaky rats. The Pentagon is responsible. It was the Pentagon that got Zarqawi not the CIA.
    Bin Laden is in Iran, the President over there has the same aganda. That's why we don't get him. The Iranians have him well hidden.

    exactly my point, Its bill clinton's fault. Even though bush cherry-picked the intelligence and twisted it around in order to sell it to the public, its still clinton's fault, right?

    I can't reveal it!

    its still clinton's fault, right?

    What? I never said it was Clinton's fault.

    I'm asking you. When Clinton pointed out that we needed to remove Saddam, they were considered good reasons by the Democrats.

    And then you said Bush had "no reason" to go into Iraq. Even though Bush's reasons were the same as Clinton's.

    Why were the reasons accepted by you when Clinton made them but not accepted by you when Bush made them?

    What's the difference?

    SMG

    Clinton cared about the people unlike King George. I trust the North Koreans more than I do Karl and George!

    I support child molestors!

    i was in grammar school when clinton sent us to Iraq. Besides, at least clinton didn't start a civil war there.

    I trust the North Koreans more than I do Karl and George!

    Flights leaving to North Korea every day. It's a paranoid regime run by folks who think Bush is a monster.

    You'll fit right in.

    Maybe little Kim will take a shine to you.

    Can you say: "Me love you long time"? in Korean?

    SMG

    SMG

    you guys are weird. It seems you'd rather just play Devi's Advocate than actually have to agree with a liberal on something.

    At least Saddam provided free health care to his people and Bin Laden built schools for the poor!
    We assasinated Zarqawi and that was wrong!

    "at least clinton didn't start a civil war there."
    I hope the Shiites and Kurds wipe the Sunnis off the map!

    Hey Jill Perry,

    Have you tried e-mailing Olbermann? He seems to enjoy hooking up with devoted fans like yourself. Actually, have you hooked up with Keith at all?

    Anyway Jill, why not e-mail Olby with all your thoughts. You should e-mail Dan Abrams (Olby's boss) as well. Here are the addresses:

    keith.olbermann@msnbc.com
    dan.abrams@msnbc.com

    Don't hold back jill -- tell them what you think. They enjoy viewer feedback.

    Olbermann speaks the truth and exposes Rightwing lies! I would have his kids!!!!!

    Valerie Plame gives great head!!

    North Korea? Fascinating place.

    Public toilets? No problem, just take a PISS in the middle of the street.

    Food? That's a bit of a problem. As a western "tourist" you might get to munch on some of the western "show" foods available at streetside stands. Like Lay's Potato Chips. With a use by date from 2001.

    But what the hell, like any other Stalinist state, IT'S A WORKERS PARADISE!

    the corporate media always portray liberal bloggers as extremist and right wing bloggers as moderates. they outta come to this site and check out the fringe looneys. Its like a freak show here! I'm going to try to forget about the vile hate that's been spewed by you guys here and go take a nice shower. In the words of David Spade, "Buh-bye!"

    Hey Karl, what's Valerie Plame like, you know, "under cover." Heh-heh-heh.

    Jill asks:

    >What the hell is Islami Fascism?

    Islami is a blend of prosciutto and salami, often found in Italian delis. Islami fascism is the intentional domination and centralization of the production of islami lunch meat as a means of forcing people to obey the rules of the islami producers. You remember the "soup nazi" from Seinfeld? Well, kinda like that but on a larger scale.

    Jill, I must admit you seem to really be inside Bushes head. You know he is a wildly theological man Hell bent on the second coming. Is there more? Does he have visions? Does he speak to God? I need to know.

    Also, when you said this:

    >"And fire brand Jesus with a Uzi, who looks just like Baby George, will appear in the sky and non-believers in the GOP will be smote or smited or whatever."

    I totally flipped, because I had a dream where that happened. In my dream, my girlfriend had just been attacked by Karl Rove while Tony Snow laughed and played a Moog organ. I suddenly felt a sharp pain in my fart-hole and when I looked up there was an uzi-toting republican Jesus baby that looked just like George Bush, and he was killing all non-GOP loyalists! I woke up in a cold sweat and had to pop six haldol tablets just to get back online (if you know what I mean, and I think you do).

    Jill, do you paint or produce artwork? Could we see some?

    What "corporate media," pray tell? The NYT, the LAT or the WaPo? What a load of horseshit.

    Where's the hate? Go to kos or DUng, you ninnies.

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    OH NO FELLOW OLBYITES! The evile she-Devil "Karmabites" of the horrible blog "relievemeofmyload" is planning to release a new batch of fake e-mail. WE MUST FIND A WAY TO STOP THIS LYING LIAR!

    Here is what she said:

    "the emails I'm planning on posting are of his reactions to very intimate photos I would send him. I've got over 100 emails. I have a lot of searching to do..."

    and

    "At first I would send just regular support emails but one day I decided to send a picture of me and he replied. The first ones were just head shots. Then when I didn't hear from him I wanted to grab his attention again so I sent a "sexy" photo. After some of those, he said if the photos got more revealing we would meet face to face and so..."

    Oh my lord Olby fans! If Keith did this at work . . . er . . . I mean Keith DID NOT DO THIS!

    Let's work people! Kos kids, flanking manoevers NOW! DU troopers, initiate web-based assault protocol! Someone call David Brock and have him get Kerry and Dean on the line! WE ARE AT OLBYCON 5 here people! This is not a drill!

    Okay, answer this one smart guys:

    Why are none of you complaining about the New York Daily News? They compromised and on-going secret investigation. The FBI even said they weren't going to go public with this yet, but were forced when the Daily News ran the story.

    Where's the outrage? The demands for the publisher and editor of the Daily News to be arrested? Or is it just the New York Times that isn't allowed to leak.

    I hate to waste my time posting this so far down, but someone asked why us liberals don't trust the administration to protect us or warn us in a meaningful fashion. It's because Tom Ridge admitted he didn't know WTF all the yellow alerts were for. He just knew the administration wanted them regardless.

    From USA Today:

    Ridge, who resigned Feb. 1, said Tuesday that he often disagreed with administration officials who wanted to elevate the threat level to orange, or "high" risk of terrorist attack, but was overruled.

    His comments at a Washington forum describe spirited debates over terrorist intelligence and provide rare insight into the inner workings of the nation's homeland security apparatus.

    Ridge said he wanted to "debunk the myth" that his agency was responsible for repeatedly raising the alert under a color-coded system he unveiled in 2002.

    "More often than not we were the least inclined to raise it," Ridge told reporters. "Sometimes we disagreed with the intelligence assessment. Sometimes we thought even if the intelligence was good, you don't necessarily put the country on (alert). ... There were times when some people were really aggressive about raising it, and we said, 'For that?' "

    Sorry, I just don't trust BushCo, never will and the sooner they're all out of office, the better.

    FWIW, when you click POST, you get a 500 internal server error. Even though the post goes through, folks probably don't think it did and try to re-post, hence, all the multiple posts.

    Hey! I bet Olby could leave much relief all over Jill Perry. And he won't even have to say thanks.

    Jill conservatives still exist. Yee Haw. We are just the stubborn, flag waving, pick-up/suv driving , gun owning, anti abortion, pro-freedom, hard working, family raising, non apologetic, hell raising, country music listening, strong willed, individuals we always were. Its the liberals that have changed. In fact i don't call them liberals anymore. To me they(you) are leftist revolutionists de-crying a perfectly good system as one that needs changed. Our country is not broken, most Amerocans live pretty dam good.Would you change that? Do you not think democracy would be good for Iraqi's? Are they less worthy of our help than the white Europeons we helped during WWII? Do you not like the thought of those dark skinned Arabs having a chance at Hope and Freedom? Roosevelt helped free Europe and that was a good thing. He was a liberal. One i disagreed with on social issues. But he knew the enemy when he saw them. And they weren't fellow countrymen. You should look at the hate filled bunch of self indulgent cry babies that have since filled the shoes on the Democrat side. You sound like a perfect example. Boo hoo this war isn't fair. I don't approve. Well tough shit. The people elected, VOTED in large enough numbers both Dem and Rep. that we are there. Bush had congressional aproval. So deal with it. By whining if you must. But it seems un-becoming. There have been several votes on removing the troops from Iraq and you can take the results up with congress as they voted over whelmingly to stay. To get us out of Vietnam the Democrats cut funding for the war because they held the power of the purse. They have chosen not to do that in Iraq because they want to keep there jobs. So if you want to have any credibilty when attacking our continued presence in Iraq you may want to spread the blame everywhere it belongs. Or risk sounding like you suffer Bush Derangement Syndrome. It seems to late for that but....As for WMDs on 911 19 men armed with box cutters became weapons of mass destruction. Do you remember? Box cutters and airplanes. So I strongly agreed with invading Afghanistan and Iraq because it sends a strong message. Message: WE CAN INVADE YOUR COUNTRIES AND DEPOSE THE LEADERS AND YOU ARE HELPLESS BEFORE OUR POWER. Now to me actions speak volumes. And Bush still has my full support. Bush as a leader is no buffoon and he isn't responsible for the divide. People who call our duly elected President buffoon have lowered the level of discourse in USA right now. Yes you and many others like you. And then after lowering the discourse you go oh how did we get to this level. The answer for you is simple it is called being in the minority. And liberals should get used to it. And las t but not least no we consevatives don't stone our liberal friends. They are already stoned or mentally challenged or they would not be Libs in the first place. Thats it you silly leftist.

    Jill Perry writes:

    "At least Saddam provided free health care to his people and Bin Laden built schools for the poor!
    We assasinated Zarqawi and that was wrong!"


    Holy cow! That sort of reasoning sounds just like that old ironic adage: At least the Nazis made the trains run on time...

    Where do these idiots come from!

    "The righties want to kill people. The President of Iran? Why is that? Anyone who disagrees with Bush's failed policies must be killed -- unless he has a NUKE. Why are you right wingers so willing to kill people?"--Jill Carrol quote
    Hey Jill you Left-Tard would you care to name names? Not counting the all volunteer armed forces. Your professors brainwashed you gave you one side of an argument and sent you into the real world of facts ill prepared to back up crazy comments like above. Now back it up or risk being the LIBTARD JOKE of th KO sight. And believe me you have stiff competition.

    Jill i keep reading your post and feel need to respond. Islamo-Fascist is a far leftist extremist with the actual guts to take actions(as opposed to leftist mouth pieces like yourself) they marry 12 and 13 yr old children, have multiple wives, treat women like cattle, stone women for percieved or real infidelty, commit mass executions in the name of Allah(piss be upon him), oppress there male citizens too, don;t allow dissent, freedom of expression, freedom of religion or just freedom. Actually in alot of ways like any American College campus without the beheadings. They kill children(Beslan), blow up night clubs(BAli), attack comuter trains full of people(Madrid, London), and fly jets into sky scrapers(NY,NY). GET IT NOW? Now did i make any of that up? NO. You leftards oppose fighting this enemy so that kinda puts you in bed with them.See? Now don't you have a bulldozer or something to stand in front of, over in gaza? Good luck with that.


    Sheesh!!! What a flood of belching and other similarly cognitive activity! This includes comments from all sides of the issue (whatever that is... it's a bit hard to be certain sometimes).

    A few observations:

    1. Few of the comments containing only a single sentence contribute anything useful to a discussion (in my opinion anyway). Such comments are most often intended either to taunt, crudely insult, or simply to litter the thread with off-topic if not completely pointless content. In other words - they are a form of 'spam'.

    2. Anything having more verbiage than the actual blog summary of the show has a significant probability of being spam. But less so than one sentence postings.

    3. The use of base profanity or invective laden viotriol is a strong signal that the usefulness of continuing the discussion is in doubt.

    4. Inflamatory characterizations of the opposing viewpoint almost *never* convince anyone to modify their position and are just as likely if not more so to produce the opposite effect regardless of whatever justification is supplied to back it up.

    5. Unsubstantiated infamatory assertions are an especially unproductive method of persuasion. In fact, it often appears to be a form of masterbation as if the poster is trying to convince him/her self that their position is justified and correct without doing the heavy lifting to provide a substantiated fact base and a clear line of reasoning.

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    I wonder if it would be possible to add a second message board to this site. It would be a controlled access board but would not need to be heavily if at all moderated and anyone could read the board. But they would only be allowed to 'post' to it after having specifically requested that privilege and having already demonstrated the capability for rational, adult discussion on the open access board. I'm not suggesting that there wouldn't still be passionate disagreement, however. Just that the discourse within wouldn't be nearly as littered with the assinine spew and other useless content that currently burdens this (largely) unmoderated board.

    FWIW...

    -OM

    Eauman,
    I have to admit your posts are always in the format you describe. You always post well reasoned and supported opinions/facts. And even your cpmplaint regarding the food-fight posting that goes on is done with mucho class. Hats off.

    My apologies for the rudeness towards Jill about multiple postings. She may be ignorant but wasn't being a malicious troll like that POS MOFO "Ed Neilly" who thought it was cute to copy and paste large portions of a page and then post them again on some of the other threads.

    Still waiting for an answer, or do you have nothing to say?

    Why are none of you complaining about the New York Daily News? They compromised an on-going secret investigation. The FBI even said they weren't going to go public with this yet, but were forced when the Daily News ran the story.

    Where's the outrage? The demands for the publisher and editor of the Daily News to be arrested? Or is it just the New York Times that isn't allowed to leak?

    Just maybe it has nothing to do with Olbermann who is, in case you didn't notice, the subject matter here. If Olby had addressed the issue I would've had something to say about it. But he didn't.

    Double standard the shame is your not outraged. Why is that? The NY slimes was allowed to leak. Nobody stopped them. I swear your deranged. You act as if complaints about the slimes in itself is censorship.

    Double Standard Day asked:

    "Why are none of you complaining about the New York Daily News? They compromised an on-going secret investigation. The FBI even said they weren't going to go public with this yet, but were forced when the Daily News ran the story. Where's the outrage? The demands for the publisher and editor of the Daily News to be arrested? Or is it just the New York Times that isn't allowed to leak?"

    1. Neither the FBI nor other officials seem to be terribly bent out of shape so far.

    2. There is at least 'some' difference between disclosing the 'existence' of an ongoing investigation and leaking details describing the methods by which such investigations proceed.

    3. After so many leaks that had the real potential to alert our enemies *before* we caught on to them, this seems like a rather less egregious offense. That is probably the most significant reason...

    Question: Why do you care? And do you still care now, given the above explanations?

    thanks,

    -OM

    Social anthropologists are in agreement. The country split hard and deep as the result of the Presidential election of 2000, Bush v Gore. The left did not accept the Bush victory and hence were never canditates for being ' united ' in any sense by President Bush. "United" is antithesis to half the country. The fact that the homeland has been safe from attack since 911 is meaningless to the left. After all, what's a little domestic attack by terrorists when you have a daily assault on the country by GWBush and Dick Cheney?

    Dear Double Double Standard

    Question: Who reads the Daily Snooze anymore?

    Answer: About as many people who watch Edward R. Moron on MSLSD.

    Now do you have a clue?

    ObserverDanfromOlbyLand Writes

    "The fact that the homeland has been safe from attack since 911 is meaningless to the left."

    Ah.....yeah. I have nothing to add except. Pay no attention to that Wingnut behind the curtain!

    Well then again let me add. A supposed progressive party that still can't get past 2000. Hello! wake up! it's 2006! YOU LOST! Oh heres another clue Sherlock. You lost in 2004!
    So in the words of that dopey website of yours.
    MOVEON!.......................Get a Clue! Buy a Vowel!

    Puck, talk about misunderstanding. Accused of being an Olbyloon is a first for me. Read it again and you will see we are on the same side.

    American College campus without the beheadings.

    Obviously you have never been to a college campus.

    Dan Opps! my foe-pa, something about that meaningless comment. Maybe we should send you out to other sites as our secret agent. Or, I should have another cup of coffee before I log on.

    Or maybe it was the Rain Forest Crunch coffee one of my lib friends poured for me the other day. Lib coffee effected my thinking. Yeah thats it!

    Hey look for this Monday night. I just got something in my inbox about how Pres. Bush stole the Mexican election. Hey why not? Quick! Loons run over to Truthnot! Wow! they had Deibold Machines in Mexico? Oh wait I got it. While everybody thought George was in Chicago, he really took Air-Force One. Landed in a Mexico-City suburb (with the running lights out of course!) Had ATF agents run out into a voting place, stole the boxes and threw them out over the Gulf of Mexico!!

    Quick Olbyloons run to the shores of the Gulf. They should be floating onto shore any minute now!

    I'm still looking for my testicles. Anyone? Anyone?

    I'm still looking for my originality. Anyone? Anyone?

    The ratings for Friday are out, and it looks bad for KO. Going up against a month old O'Reilly repeat, KO managed just 68,000 in the coveted "demo."

    Things are obviously getting so bad for MSNBC that TVNewser has stopped posting total viewer numbers.

    For June 06 v May 06, KO dropped about 2100 total viewers a night. Although he did, in fairness, pick up about 13000 a night in the demo. Sounds ok, so far, right?

    Except, BO was up in both total viewers and the demo. 222,000 total viewers gained, and 41000 in the demo. Per night average. KO averaged just 376,000 total viewers for the month, and 153,000 demo viewers; BO averaged 2.1 million, and 402,000 in the demo. Not so good.

    Paula Zahn reversed a trend, beating KO in both total viewers and demo, averaging 615,000 and 165,000. She gained 88,000 and 39,000 respectively.

    And Nancy Grace, while still lagging, averaged 427,000 total viewers and 137,000 in the demo.
    She dropped about 15,000 total viewers, but gained just shy of 20,000 viewers a night in the demo.

    The first week of July, Grace averaged 101,000 demo; KO 140,000; Zahn 175,000; and BO 314,000 with no new shows.

    Some centerpiece for your network. Maybe KO ought to turn his sights on Zahn instead of aiming at the big leagues.