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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    July 11, 2006
    COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN - JULY 11, 2006

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • WAR ON TERROR - MUMBAI TRAIN BLASTS KILL AT LEAST 100; BRUTAL KILLINGS OF 2 U.S. SOLDIERS POSTED ON THE WEB: Evan Kohlmann, terrorism analyst
    • SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW CENTER STUDY SHOWING GROWING NUMBER OF WHITE SUPREMACISTS ARE JOINING THE ARMY TO GET TRAINING FOR A "RACE WAR" ON OUR SOIL: Col. Jack Jacobs, U.S. Army (ret.) and MSNBC military analyst
    • WHAT IS RUDY GULIANI UP TO?: Dana Milbank, The Washington Post national political reporter
    • NEW YORK UPPER EAST SIDE BUILDING COLLAPSE: Jonathan Dienst, WNBC reporter

    "Numbers Don't Lie, but Keith Does"

    Olby did it again. He just can't help it. His Olbsession with Fox News has led him right into another whopper of a lie. But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Let's begin at the beginning.

    You can always rely on Krazy Keith to slip some sort of fallacy or distortion into his opening spiel, and tonight he didn't disappoint:

    Who is Robert Novak's source? Sources? Will he be revealing them Wednesday night?...And legalistically and journalistically, who told Novak he could give it, or them, up?

    Olby had to really stretch to get a dig in on Novakio, and that's just what he did here. He went from a question ("Will he reveal his source?") to an unfounded assumption ("Who told him he could do so?"). He doesn't know if Novak will be revealing any names on Wednesday night. So where did Krazy get the idea that somebody told Novak he could do so? He made it up!

    Yes, The Great Leak Case was the lead story on The Hour of Spin. KO noted that Novak said he still cannot reveal who his original source was. So what's with the bellowing about will Novak reveal something on Wednesday? Pure OlbyHype. Cue: David the Doctorer Shuster. He speculated about Richard Armitage being the unnamed leaker. Then it was time for the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann ratchet up the spin:

    Bill Harlow [CIA] had to have known, uh, that Valerie Plame was under cover...

    Good ol' Keith. Ever faithful to the talking points. Even Fitzgerald doesn't claim she was covert, so Olby uses the non-legal term "under cover".

    Does the fact that he was a confirming source with Novak mean now that, that he, meaning Harlow, could face some kind of prosecution in this?

    Now legally, the answer to that question is obvious. If Fitzgerald isn't prosecuting the original source because he found no crime to charge, how could be possibly prosecute a confirming source, someone who basically shook his head yes after the cat was already out of the bag? Why would Olby ask such a dumb question? Maybe to give The Doctorer a chance to ramp up the spin:

    Bill Harlow has denied Bob Novak's account of their conversation, and that's significant because it casts questions about Bob Novak and his integrity.

    Catch that? Harlow says one thing, Novak says another. That contradiction means Novak's integrity is in question, but not Harlow's. Judge Shuster has ruled that Novak's lying. Now you know why they call him Slippery. With all the long knives out for Novakio, we wonder why neither Slippery nor Krazy even touched on several salient disclosures in the column:

    • Fitzgerald has known who the original leaker was since he talked to Novak.
    • That first disclosure was inadvertent.
    • Novak learned Valerie Plame's name from Joe Wilson's entry in Who's Who.

    Next was Milbank, devoid of decorative duds. Dana made the odd statement that something bad happened but nobody is being prosecuted because "it's almost impossible to prove". Bzzzt! Wrong answer! Novak identified the prime leaker. Fitzgerald knew the name even before that. It's a snap to prove his identity in court. What makes prosecution impossible is that he couldn't find a law that made the leak a crime.

    Some nattering ensued about whether Novak and the Bush administration got through this whole mess "unscathed", and Dana opined that any damage would be slight. You can just imagine KO's face falling as he spoke. Here he devoted night after night to flogging the story, even when there was no news reason to do so. His experts told him that there would be all these indictments, Karl Rove included. And he's left with...this? Oh, he is fortune's fool.

    Say, what was Keith talking about anyhow when he said Novak might reveal something "on Wednesday"? You wouldn't know it by watching Countdown, because after that bit of hype at the top of the show, Olby never did explain what he was talking about. We'll tell you what KO wouldn't: it's Bob Novak's interviews on two Fox programs tomorrow evening (Special Report and Hannity & Colmes). Now why would Keith leave that out?

    Mr Humility then just had to respond to all the emails he has been "inundated" with since the Monday show. People, he claimed, were saying that they didn't like the "new format" with KO turning the bulk of the show over to someone else. Right. Olby blamed it all on a "dinner reservation". What, the hotel wouldn't let him go up to the room after 9:00 pm?

    #4: Terrorists attacks in India. Most inconvenient, since just yesterday Olby and his parrot were pooh-poohing the threat of terrorism. To avoid any embarrassment, KO rushed through this story in about 60 seconds, and let recycled video from NBC take it from there. Iraq and Afghanistan also got brief mentions, followed by oddball.

    #3: It's attack the military time again. "Skinheads" are infiltrating the army by the "thousands", according to the notoriously unreliable Morris Dees. Olby treated the SLPC press release as if it were a scientific study, but Col Jack Jacobs was there to bring a little common sense to the table. He tried to explain the "law of large numbers" to Keith, who insisted that "even one moderately trained white supremicist" can do a lot of damage, citing Timothy McVeigh. The second-stupidest question of the night, and the Colonel did an admirable job keeping a straight face as he explained to Krazy Keith that our soldiers are not armed with fertilizer bombs. KO got Jacobs to admit that relaxing standards could cause problems down the line. More breaking news from Countdown.

    #2: Baseball and Barry Bonds, Barbaro, Leann Rimes, Pink Ployd, and a slur against the great Jackie Chan. #1: The suicide explosion in New York.

    In the "worst person" segment, Olby complained about a Fox spokesman quoted in the puff-piece Times article. After all, this spokesman used the same line ("train wreck") she used in May 2004. Then comes the Keith Olbermann Lie of the Night:

    Since about that time our ratings are up about 26%, and Bill O'Reilly's are down 45%.

    It's time for another Olbermann Reality Check. But it won't be easy. For some reason, the TVNewser archive of the May 2004 ratings cannot be found anywhere on his site. Maybe KO thought with that information not at hand he could get away with this latest falsehood. But we poked around and found the numbers Keith Olbermann doesn't want you to see:

    May 2004 ratings:
    The O'Reilly Factor: 1,894,000 viewers
    Countdown: 319,000 viewers

    June 2006 ratings
    :
    The O'Reilly Factor: 2,141,000 viewers
    Countdown: 286,000 viewers

    For the OlbyPologists who refuse to admit his many lies, we'll make it perfectly clear:

    O'Reilly (May 2004-June 2006):
    Olbermann claimed: Down 45%
    The truth: Up 13%

    Olbermann (May 2004-June 2006):
    Olbermann claimed: Up 26%
    The truth: Down 10%

    The infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann, caught in another lie. Which is sort of like spotting a hole in a piece of swiss cheese.


    Posted by johnny dollar | Permalink | Comments (94) | | View blog reactions
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    "new information on that front"

    Gosh this is like the WMDs that were suddenly found but not really.

    I am going to sing in a barber shop quartet! I'm a rebel! I am Right wing Conservative!

    I claim this blog for the Far left!

    I claim this blog for the Far left!

    AOL is currently polling its clients on the "Feud". O'Reilly is currently winning in the voting. Questions asked: " Who would you rather watch?" and "Who has the brighter future?"

    Who would you rather watch?
    Bill O'Reilly 55%
    Keith Olbermann 45%

    Who has the brighter future?
    Bill O'Reilly 54%
    Keith Olbermann 46%
    --------------------------------

    These are as of 8:50pm Tuesday.

    Yeah, BO is winning... his show is a juggernaut. But, I tell you what. This is no FOX NEWS POLL with nothing but conservatives voting. This is the general public. And to have these two separated by about 10%... I'll take that.

    Do you think Olby could have stuttered any more when ranting about the Fox newswoman (second-runner-up, WPITW)? He sounded nervous to me. And he even mentioned the e-mails! HA!

    Fox spokeswoman, I meant.

    James said "This [AOL poll] is the general public{sic}."

    OK! So almost half of the people want to watch Olbermann, but they just never get around to it? This is a stupid unscientific poll meant to help Olbermann.

    I guess AOL likes Olby and wants to give him a bump in the ratings. Figures since AOL is also courting the illigitimate newsman Dan "fake memos" Rather.

    In the previous you noted moonbat 'gttim'. Dude, he's nothing more than an effeminate atriette appealing to his Napolean complex by typing drivel on the internet and playing the tough guy via bytes. I once wasted my time (about 15 minutes) trying to logically debate....he's just another atriette, no different than the rest...they're all the same (sadly, as there are some competent people on the left, just not illustrated by that segment). Just read your link to his site & he's bemoaning someone commenting under "anonymous" (the default for someone w/o a blogger account) and their being "a coward" for not leaving a name, while he won't post his own.

    Apparently, a pseudonym suffices in atriette-land when decrying someone not leaving their name.

    Ignore the idiot and his ilk, like most of society (and most certainly Georgia) has. I'm sure outside of a certain area of Buckhead/Midtown, ahem, he'd last about 20 seconds trying to trash-talk like that.

    "This is a stupid unscientific poll meant to help Olbermann."

    - I absolutely LOVE this. Anything that makes FOX or conservatives or republicans look anything less than perfect suddenly becomes 'stupid.' You pout like a four year old.

    -------------------------------------------
    "I guess AOL likes Olby and wants to give him a bump in the ratings."

    - No. For AOL to be pumping for Olbermann they'd have to be saying something that's positive on his behalf. The majority of people who vote in the poll wont even read the attatched article. Which is very fairly written.
    Face it, it doesn't make BO look good and you can't stand it. (KfK grumbles, "stupid, dumb poll anyway! just dumb.")

    No James, I am saying that if 50% of the people wanted to watch Olbermann, THEY WOULD you complete idiot. Olbermann's ratings suck, hence the poll is wholly inacurate. Why is that so hard for you to understand? Oh yeah, because you are a mentally challenged Olbyite.

    As for proping up Olbermann, clearly this poll is meant to do just that. They splash Olbermann's picture all over the place and ask Olbermann trivia. Good ol lefty John Stewart is featured there as well. The picture of O'Reilly is horrendous, while they use Olby's favorite picture from the NY Times.

    Most importantly, O'Reilly now IGNORES that loser so ther is NO FEUD! That is the best part. What's next, a special poll about Olbermann's "feud" with Bush? His "feud" with Cheney? How about his "feuds" with Nixon and McCarthy?

    Just vote your little butt off in that stupid poll loser -- unless it magically turns into ratings, it is meaningless.

    Oh, and this picture scares me:

    I bet that is his "e-mailing viewers for sexy photos" face! He looks like he's saying "come here little girl heh heh heh"!

    HA HA HA HA HA!

    On radio he sniffs sweaty jocks
    On tv he attacks women at Fox
    He’s a journalistic hack
    His pot has a crack
    “For this relief, much thanks” when he stalks

    Wow,,I hadn;t realized Olbermanns numbers were this bad..at some time the advertizers have to head for the exits

    KfK. You just make me laugh. You can do nothing more than throw sophomoric personal attacks at people. I pity you.

    The AOL poll has closed and Olby got smoked by BOR.

    ObserverDan - thanks for the link.

    Does anyone think this is a coincidence that MSNBC starts boost Olby as the centerpiece of their new strategy, The Times runs its puff piece, AOL runs this poll. Yet another wave of OlbyLove from the lefty media.

    Make no mistake, this is just more liberal media efforts to boost Olbermann and take down Fox News. Ironically, coming from the say company that owns CNN. I guess they figure they can't lose either way - known down O'Reilly and boost Olby who will eventually self-destruct anyway.

    For you OlbyLoons who have to have it spoon fed to you - a poll asking readers to choose between KO and BOR is to present them as peers and to present the respondants option as binary. The effect is more of the same, MSNBC and KO trying to boost ratings by clawing their way onto O'Reilly's coattails.

    I will post seperately on this too.

    Olbermann is a pathetic loser. He's a traitor and a seditionist. Why doesn't he discuss the India bobings? Because it proves the Islamists want to go after evryone. In Olby's mind they are freedom fighters taking on Bush and The Israelis. he's a sick man!

    wow ! this is cool. looks like conservatives are really p'ed off by Keith. my opinion is that both of them spin the news a lot. but AFAIK Keith doesn't claim that he is 'looking out for the ppl' or doesnt claim that his is a 'no spin' show like Bill O does. I am glad Bill O has some one to worry abt :-)).

    wow ! this is cool. looks like conservatives are really p'ed off by Keith. my opinion is that both of them spin the news a lot. but AFAIK Keith doesn't claim that he is 'looking out for the ppl' or doesnt claim that his is a 'no spin' show like Bill O does. I am glad Bill O has some one to worry abt :-)).

    It's not just conservatives but all clear thinkers who should be concerned about Olby who distorts, slants, and flat-out lies to promote his personal agenda.

    Nice summary Mr. Dollar. I love these "great leak case" shows. Olbermann preemptively eliminates any potential new viewers with his left wing obsession. Somebody should tell him that his lefty base is easy to please. If he wants his numbers to go somewhere, he has to try to get some normal people to watch him.

    KfK. You just make me laugh. You can do nothing more than throw sophomoric personal attacks at people. I pity you.

    James wrote:

    "KfK. You just make me laugh. You can do nothing more than throw sophomoric personal attacks at people. I pity you."

    I can do alot more than throw my beloved sophomoric attacks around. My posts contain quite a bit of material besides the attacks. Look more carefully.

    Thanks for your pity, by the way. I will take your pity and give you scorn in return.

    hate the message?

    attack the messenger.

    o'rielly has no credibility and a hicktown, rube, under educated audience.

    keith is growing and you guys just don't like the fact that he shows us the right's dirty laundry.

    FAUX NEWS is a dying hopefully all this crap about a "liberal media" will die with it because it will have had it's shot,fair and square.

    olbermann is the only liberal on msnbc.
    shut up and listen to the truth rightwingers. you have been hiding from it for far too long.

    James -

    You're dumber than Nonfactor (if that's possible).

    true patriot uttered:

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    o'rielly has no credibility and a hicktown, rube, under educated audience.
    -------------

    Oh,oh! Liberal elitism rears its ugly head yet again...

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    keith is growing and you guys just don't like the fact that he shows us the right's dirty laundry. FAUX NEWS is a dying hopefully all this crap about a "liberal media" will die with it because it will have had it's shot,fair and square.
    ------------

    Wishful thinking, at best... BTW - the 'liberal media' effect has been with us at least since the 60's - uncle Walter and all those folks...

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    olbermann is the only liberal on msnbc.
    ------------

    You mean besides Chris Matthews, David Shuster, Alison Stewart, Brian Unger, Norah ODonnell, Ron Reagan, the formerly flaming Phil Donahue, and then there's MSNBC blogger Eric Alterman (author of "What Liberal Media?")?

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    shut up and listen to the truth rightwingers. you have been hiding from it for far too long.
    -------------

    Sorry, pal. You've been inventing your version of it for too long. FWIW, although others here might be, I'm am not a right winger. But I don't buy into the poorly researched, baldly unsubstantiated, or sometimes entirely irrational paranoid assertions that I hear from folks like you. Nothing personal - I simply demand a little more critical thinking than I typically observe coming from the political left. Oops, I guess I'm sounding a little elitist, myself...sorry.

    best,

    -OM

    Johnny Dollar, are those ratings you quote isolated ratings from one day in May 2004, compared to one day in June 2006? I have a feeling that they are.

    You seem so eager to try and expose Olbermann as a liar that you fill your rants with cherry-picked facts. One day compared to another doesn't show an overall decline or increase in a shows overall ratings. Note that for future reference so you don't make yourself look like an ignorant partisan hack.

    Congrats again nonfactor, you are stunningly, obviously, totally wrong. You didn't even bother to click the links, did you? If you had, you would have seen those were ratings for the ENTIRE MONTHS in question. Keith said from May 2004 to now, and those are exactly the stats I put up.

    So YOU are the ignorant partisan hack, who can't even be bothered to click a link before making accusations and rushing to defend Keith Olbermann's indefensible lie. I await your apology.

    In school was it math that Keith failed?
    Or should NBC’s research be jailed?
    Their numbers are lies
    His logic defies
    Sanity based on comments he emailed

    Quote me the line Olbermann used.

    In honor of Kreepy Keith's kreepy laughter while he was naming the spokeswoman from Fox the 2nd runner up to WPITW, I present this limerick.

    When he laughs, it truly is weird
    Oh yes! It's worse than you feared!
    You would cringe if you'd hear it
    So never get near it.
    If so, your brain will be seared.

    Non, read the synopsis. It's right there, blockquoted for easy spotting even by someone who doesn't do his homework before levelling charges. I await your apology.

    If Meltdown's ratings are really so hot
    Why does it always show up in last spot?
    If up fifty percent
    Why not a dent?
    Another mistruth and Krazy Keith's caught

    What lines did he use before that? Did he say May 2004 to June 2006?

    KEITH OLBERMANN: Now Ms. Briganti first used the “train wreck” line in an interview with the Washington Post in May of 2004 in which she was quoted as an anonymous spokesperson. Since about that time our ratings are up 26% and Bill O’Reilly’s are down 45%.

    I await your apology.

    When Olbermann says "about that time" it seems to me that he ddoesn't mean May 2004, but a time around there. May is a sweeps month and it'd be reasonable to see a ratings spike in that time. I can't find the June 2004 or April 2004 ratings for the show though. He might be referring to quarterly ratings as well, because I'm sure his producers didn't pull the number "26%" out of a hat.

    I will admit though that I was wrong in saying that you pulled ratings from one day compared to another day, but that does not change the fact that you're a partisan hack--all of which are ignorant.

    Sounds as if Olbermann was intentionally vague, or perhaps the people writing the script were. I'll look for quarterly ratings and the others around May of 2004, and if it seems as if the numbers were just made up I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

    And note that I didn't say that the ratings you cited were taken from two separate days; I asked a question about them and said I had a feeling they were. My feeling turned out to be wrong--at least I can admit that, and at least my mistake didn't involve the changing of the Constitution.

    That's very generous of you. When Olbermann says "about" May 2004, he really means "about" what? March? February? August? If he meant that he would have said it.

    > He might be referring to quarterly ratings as well...

    Keep grasping at straws. He didn't say since that quarter. He specifically referenced May 2004.

    > May is a sweeps month

    Silly rabbit. There are no "sweeps" in cable news. I'd say "nice tray" but it's not even that.

    I still await your apology, but I expect I'll get one around the same time Keith admits that he lied to his audience again.

    > I asked a question about them and said I had a feeling they were.

    A little revisionist history there, non? Sure you "had a feeling" but you didn't leave it at that. To quote you:

    NON: You seem so eager to try and expose Olbermann as a liar that you fill your rants with cherry-picked facts. One day compared to another doesn't show an overall decline or increase in a shows overall ratings. Note that for future reference so you don't make yourself look like an ignorant partisan hack.

    Could you possibly have been wronger? Only if your initials were KO.

    If Olbermann wanted to say May 2004 he'd have said: "since that time" not "since about that time."

    Whatever you want me to apologize for--too bad. You haven't denied your partisanship, and there's nothing else in my post you could be personally offended by.

    "It's not just conservatives but all clear thinkers who should be concerned about Olby who distorts, slants, and flat-out lies to promote his personal agenda."

    LMAO! Because Faux News, O'Liely, Ailes, Murdoch, Wingnut Radio et al. would NEVER do anything like that! You guys kill me. I guess KO didn't get the memo that only the NeoCON artists are allowed to "distort, slant, and flat-out lies to promote THEIR personal agenda."

    Obviously, KO has hit a nerve, because the wingnut slime machine is after him full force.

    "It's not just conservatives but all clear thinkers who should be concerned about Olby who distorts, slants, and flat-out lies to promote his personal agenda."

    LMAO! Because Faux News, O'Liely, Ailes, Murdoch, Wingnut Radio et al. would NEVER do anything like that! You guys kill me. I guess KO didn't get the memo that only the NeoCON artists are allowed to "distort, slant, and flat-out lies to promote THEIR personal agenda."

    Obviously, KO has hit a nerve, because the wingnut slime machine is after him full force.

    nonfactor,
    You were busted. Either apologize or accept the notion that your cred is kaput (on par with Olbermann's).

    Johhny, I have to take issue with your KO quote. I have to wait for a transcript or the 9AM rerun, but I thought he said "Since that time our ratings are up ABOUT 26% and Bill O’Reilly’s are down 45%." Close enough normally, but maybe that would help Non settle his timeline controversy.

    If not, well, it still says something.

    However, it is clear from his latest diatribe that Non didn't even bother watching the show before attacking your synopsis. Rather, he chose to blindly defend his hero with no first hand knowledge of the issue.

    That really says something.

    Even Howard Dean would have to admit JD is correct and Nonfactor is completely off the mark. What I find amazing is a line like this:

    >Nonfactor: "Whatever you want me to apologize for--too bad. You haven't denied your partisanship, and there's nothing else in my post you could be personally offended by."

    The guy makes a false accusation and calls JD a "partisan hack." Once the accusation is proven completely false, Nonfactor posts the above snarky sentence rather than admit he is wrong.

    So Nonfactor doesn't care about the truth, or honest debate, or honorable behaviour, and I am left asking "what is the point?"

    Nonfactor, if you are going to come to the site, improperly read posts, erroneously attack, get yourself embarassed, then refuse to recant, why should anyone respond to you at all?

    He gets bitch-slapped each night by Ms. Grace
    But he brags that he's in the race
    Keith keeps on lying
    But the sponsors aren't buying
    A show that resides in last place

    Per Drudge, Olbermann is still behind Nancy Grace and even Hardball.

    I remember when Phil Donahue (the old MSNBC 8:00 show) got more viewers.

    How bad is it when you can't garner enough eyes to pass a certifiable ambulance chaser on Headline News? Or has it sunk in that he's getting virtually all the kossacks/atriettes and almost no one else?

    FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,264,000
    FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,801,000
    CNN LARRY KING 1,382,000
    FNC GRETA 1,340,000
    FNC SHEP SMITH 1,252,000
    FNC HUME 1,197,000
    CNN COOPER 1,132,000
    CNN DOBBS 823,000
    CNN PAULA ZAHN 679,000
    MSNBC HARDBALL 360,000
    CNNHN GRACE 354,000
    MSNBC OLBERMANN 349,000

    Krazy Keith has forgotten one fact
    That GE stockholders own his contract
    If last place he’s mired
    Then he will be fired
    They’ll deep-six the pot that is cracked

    Seriously -- the real question is what is wrong with MSNBC and the parent company.

    Last place. Let me spell that for you ... L-A-S-T P-L-A-C-E. How long will MSNBC continue with a program that almost no one watches. As it exists today, it's nothing more than an MSNBC welfare program for Keith Older-man.

    CABLE NEWS RACE
    MON., JULY 10, 2006
    VIEWERS

    FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,264,000
    FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,801,000
    CNN LARRY KING 1,382,000
    FNC GRETA 1,340,000
    FNC SHEP SMITH 1,252,000
    FNC HUME 1,197,000
    CNN COOPER 1,132,000
    CNN DOBBS 823,000
    CNN PAULA ZAHN 679,000
    MSNBC HARDBALL 360,000
    CNNHN GRACE 354,000
    MSNBC OLBERMANN 349,000

    Keif Inteview
    Keif Opie: Our ratings continue to surpass Fox News and the unementionable soul at Fox, O'Reilly
    Interviewer: Keif - but you are in dead, I mean the lowest, last place, and you mention O'Reilly every night on your show. I mean you are the catfish of ratings. A bottom feeder
    Keif: Yes - but we have made great gains while Fox has had casualties, I mean, lost viewers
    Interviewer: Keif - the numbers do not indicate that
    Keif: Dean, Milbanks, O'Donnell with guests like that - the numbers do indicate that, I mean clealry a conspiracy is evident and a Fox news indictment is pending , Milbanks told me.
    Interviewer: but Keif - somehow you are always coming up with stats how your viewership gains seem tremendous, while the Fox losses in viewers seem equally as alarming. Keif - the numbers you spouted just yesterday, well they just seem almost downright dishonest. Keif - it just seems like you're failing miserably
    Keif: we're not failing- we're the mothership, I mean the mother of all newsstations, I mean I am THE man at MSNBC - Abrams and the NY TImes told me
    Interviewer: Keith - do you think, in restrospect, that it's a failed, a flawed, a ridiculous strategy, a horrible business decision
    Keif: You're the worst person in the world

    Of course he knew what Novack was saying, everyone in Washington and NY knew what he had said, was gonna say and will eventually say. Get a grip.

    Check out the 5 year stock price for the New York Times- anyone see a "trend" i.e. sinking like the Titanic

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NYT&t=5y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

    What is it with this ridiculous media that insists on feeding us leftist garbage - Like Countdown - and mauling the shareholders. GE stock is in the pension plans of a lot of Corporate pensions, money people will rely on come retirement

    Abrams - get with it, stop this left ranting news garbage - people are literally not buying it. Just provide with both sides of a story - I'm smart enough to make up my own mind.

    Countdown has to go man - it's the ambulance chaser equivalent of the legal profession

    http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NYT&t=5y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

    Olbermanic provides a perfect case study in Liberal propaganda. Here is a guy who makes stuff up. As opposed to O'Reilly who merely gives his opinion. This means that O'Reilly, who never claimed to be objective is less biased than Olbermanic who portrays himself as objective and reports opinion and falsehood as fact while deliberately omitting facts that contradict his opinion.

    What many people need to realize is that it's the pretense of objectivity that indicates bias.

    O'Reilly = Fair and Balanced
    Olbermanic = Unfair and Imbalanced (mentally)

    It's easy to up your ratings 45% when you start with 2 viewers.

    Does anyone have the e-mail address for Miss Odorman? I'd like to send him a copy of his latest ratings.

    keith.olbermann@msnbc.com

    Hey--copy his boss too while you're at it (you know, the one he claims not to have at MSNBC), Dan Abrams: dan.abrams@msnbc.com.

    Seriously -- the real question is what is wrong with MSNBC and the parent company. Last place. Let me spell that for you ... L-A-S-T P-L-A-C-E. Seriously -- the real question is what is wrong with MSNBC and the parent company?

    ad revenues are up ... and increasing of late ... that's what's up with MSNBC.


    How long will MSNBC continue with a program that almost no one watches.

    MSNBC OLBERMANN 349,000. the program will continue as long as it makes money, which appears to be increasing.


    It's easy to up your ratings 45% when you start with 2 viewers.

    MSNBC OLBERMANN 349,000.


    Here I go again. Every time these ratings come out I write Keith a nice letter. I have been doing longgggggggggggg before this web site was formed. I politely ask Keith what favors are being exchanged in order for him to stay on the air. Honestly sometimes I tease him about “old Larry” Kick’ in his ass, but all in all they are nice emails. Regretfully Keith has yet to write me back with an answer. I mean I believe in a lot of stuff (Santa Claus, Boogie Man etc…) but I can’t believe this guy can stay on the air without some “monkey business” going on.

    FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,264,000
    FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,801,000
    CNN LARRY KING 1,382,000
    FNC GRETA 1,340,000
    FNC SHEP SMITH 1,252,000
    FNC HUME 1,197,000
    CNN COOPER 1,132,000
    CNN DOBBS 823,000
    CNN PAULA ZAHN 679,000
    MSNBC HARDBALL 360,000
    CNNHN GRACE 354,000
    MSNBC OLBERMANN 349,000

    Sorry I wasn’t being altogether truthful in my last post. I did once tell Keith that I think more people watch me piss in the morning then are watching him…but hey it’s a joke and I know Olby has a great sense of humor, right ?

    Silly rabbit. There are no "sweeps" in cable news.

    Funny, Johnny, considering just two months ago you mocked me for making the exact same comment.

    "Cable doesn't do "sweeps" - only the main over-the-air networks do." - Anonymous Poster, May 25th 11:31pm

    "Yeah yeah I've heard that before. Yet Keith waited until sweeps were over to take his three days off. We report, you decide." - Johnny Dollar, May 25th 11:32pm (emphasis mine)

    I like the post by "money talks" above:

    349,000

    Now, is that meant to defend or destroy Olbermann?

    As for the monetary juggernaut that is MSNBC, I fear you are horribly mistaken. They made money by stealing from Microsoft, but that train left the station. Now MSNBC is a write-off for NBC proper -- an outlet for taped refuse and fifth-rate no-talents.

    Joe,

    I like to send Olby e-mails too. It is especially fun because he is not allowed to answer. That leaves open the comic possibilities. for instance:

    Dear Keith,

    I heard that you hide under your desk and beg viewers for nudie pictures. If you don't respond to this e-mail, I will assume that this is true . . . .

    I enjoy mentioning that he is being punished for writing naughty e-mails. Imagine that -- his boss has told him he is not allowed to talk to viewers! That's Olby -- the 47 year old adolescent.

    Anon, I didn't mock you. In fact, I corroborated what you stated, indicating that I had heard the same thing. Where was I wrong?

    As of wed @ noon, its a dead heat. Better get the vote out or KO will get some bragging rights.
    John

    You may not know it but you are Olbermann's best friend. If I had a little cable show with no viewership how would I get people to watch? I'd say outrageous things. I'd things so outrageous that people would have websites dedicated to what I said every night. Can't you see this is part of the strategy? It's simple marketing warfare and you're being used as a tool. If you really want to piss him off igore him.

    >"If I had a little cable show with no viewership how would I get people to watch? I'd say outrageous things."

    Wow! What a great plan. Step 1 Get cable show Step 2 "Say outrageous things" Step 3 Ratings!

    I'm sorry, but that is not the road to success. You need to have substance. If your formula worked, every crazy crackpot in the world would have a hit show. Larry O'Donnell and Olbermann would be #1, followed by KKK members and Charlie Manson.

    >

    Ad revenues are up? How much are revenues up and are they enough to justify keeping a last place dog on the air.

    >

    There's an opportunity cost of money. Why would you buy a freaking 3% CD when you could get a 5% CD? You believe that MSNBC wouldn't rather have the ad revenue premium associated with having O'Reilly viewership numbers? What you fail to realize is that tv news/political commentary is a BUSINESS. A fool and his money are soon parted. You are the poster boy for that tagline.

    MSNBC OLBERMANN 349,000.

    Last place. Older-man is ahead of NOBODY. 'Bout says it all, chief.

    Dollar, please clear the air on one point regarding the ratings posted here and the ratings Keith-O refers to. Can we not stipulate that every time Olbermann mentions his numbers in relation to Fox, he is mining that small vein of what's been referred to as the "money demographic" ? Whereas, your citing of the always crushing numbers, Fox beating MSNBC, comes from the overall numbers?
    Is it not a fact that no matter where they meet on the playing field, overall or specific demographic, O'Reilly constantly tromps Olbermann? Thank you.

    Brandon:

    Thanks for the address.

    > Can we not stipulate that every time Olbermann mentions his numbers in relation to Fox, he is mining that small vein of what's been referred to as the "money demographic" ?

    No we cannot, because Olby has been careful of late to always specify the "money demo" when he's talking about his numbers. All he said this time was "ratings", and I'm sure to most viewers who don't know about the 8 ways from Sunday those numbers can be picked apart, figure his audience is up and Bill's is down. Which is untrue.

    Another minor problem with your theory: if you check the numbers for the "money demo" on the charts, THEY don't match Olbermann's stats either. So whether you consider total viewers or the key demo, Olby lied. Again.

    Dollar, thanks for the illumination. Silly me thinking there might be a fair and even playing field somewhere in Olbyworld. I'll let the numbers speak for themselves.
    Riddle: How do you know when Keith Olbermann is lying?

    I'd say when his lips are moving, but then he does write (or have written for him) a blog that he updates something like once every other Palm Sunday. So how about, When he's breathing?

    How much are revenues up

    can that be researched online? anyone? ... Bueller? Bueller?


    and are they enough to justify keeping a last place dog on the air.

    apparently so. unless ...


    Now MSNBC is a write-off for NBC proper

    if true, then Keith will definitely be staying for a bit.


    You believe that MSNBC wouldn't rather have the ad revenue premium associated with having O'Reilly viewership numbers?

    of course they would, but where to get it? granted Keith is in the comparative ratings cellar, but he's apparently one of the leaders among MSNBC's little galaxy of stars.


    Love those ratings. Candypants Keith takes it up the ass by the man that he attacks night after night.....Mr. Bill O'Reilly :)

    Not to worry, he will have his favorite sperm gobblers Milbank, Musto, and Mo Rocca come to his rescue. Are Keith's eyebrows matted with jiz?

    AmericasNewsToday.Org piece #1 title "Far-Left Coward Keith Olbermann Smears Fox's Spokeswoman, Misrepresents Ratings Again" - piece #2 title "The al-Qaeda Times caught lying again, traitors support traitors, NY Times lies about Keith Olbermann "success""

    Excerpt:
    "No matter how much money you spend on self-publicity or how many lies you tell, the truth is the truth and you Olbermann are nothing but a "Lying-Coward-Kool Aid Drinker-Piece Of Crap-Loon" who lives in a bubble, just one more O'Reilly wannabe."
    Excerpt:
    Far-Left 'Piece Of Crap' Keith Olbermann smeared FOX News’ spokeswoman Irena Briganti, in an altered image portraying her as the female version of Bill O’Reilly.

    Real smart there, Keith. Way to burn every possible bridge to the number 1 cable news network. Dumbass of dumbasses. Oh, yeah. It's all about your integrity or credibility! Sure it is. And another thing. Stop with the fake, creepy laughing. Later, tool.

    Larry the cable guy is a comic for morons.

    Sometimes I read my posts and I think, "Oh my god I'm stupid!"

    Left wing trollers are so original.

    i can't see to type I have too many cocks in my face.

    TONIGHT'S TOP STORY

    Breaking News: Ex-CIA operative Valerie Plame sues Vice President Cheney, his former aide, Scooter Libby, and presidential adviser Karl Rove.

    Hey Top Story,

    That is good news. Now we can hear all about Val and how her three year old kid ran around saying she was a spy, and how un-covert she was. This will be especially bad for the corrupt liar Joe Wilson. I didn't think they would be this dumb, but hey, they're leftists.

    Great, now I get to hear a bunch of conservatives try and vilify Joe Wilson.

    Hey "Anonymous troll under someone else's name"-- Go peddle your lame pick-up lines back at the glory hole.

    My apologies, back at dailykos.

    Yeah, I read about the Olberjerk fluff piece on AOL's main menu. It was so biased towards Olbermann that it made me sick. I also voted on the AOL poll and expected both of the numbers to be for Olbermann, but it wasn't. The thing that really bothers me is how Olbermann makes fun of the average O'Reilly viewers' age (71, according to MSNBC's poll). Olbermann sucks and I have seen his show a few times -- it's horrible and I hate the stupid coverage he gives to hollywood news. O'Reilly is the man and Olbermann knows it.

    Wow! What a great plan. Step 1 Get cable show Step 2 "Say outrageous things" Step 3 Ratings!

    I'm sorry, but that is not the road to success. You need to have substance. If your formula worked, every crazy crackpot in the world would have a hit show. Larry O'Donnell and Olbermann would be #1, followed by KKK members and Charlie Manson.

    JR....Every cable show, radio show, network show, etc. is a little sshow when it first starts. It takes marketing to make anything successful. There are many kinds of marketing. You shoud not be so quick to blow this off. It's a subject I know something about.

    Phil McCracken: "Every cable show, radio show, network show, etc. is a little sshow when it first starts."


    Yeah. . .when it first starts. Meltdown has been molesting the airwaves for three years now.

    As for your massive knowledge of TV, good for you!

    ah ..i finally came across a island of thinkers that sees the truth ...countdown is one of the most liberal peice of crap i;ve ever witnessed

    i even use to enjoy watching it until i woke up
    !!!

    THE NEXUS OF POLITICS AND TERROR

    Nexus No. 2, Thursday, June 6, 2002...

    Coleen Rowley, the FBI agent who tried to alert her superiors to the specialized flight training taken by Zacarias Moussaoui, who's information suggests the government missed a chance to break up the 9/11 plot, testifies before Congress. Senate Committee Chair Graham says, Rowley's testimony has inspired similar pre-9/11 whistleblowers.

    Monday June 10, 2002, four days later...

    Speaking from Russia, Attorney General John Ashcroft reveals that an American named Jose Padilla is under arrest, accused to plotting a radiation bomb attack in this country. In fact, Padilla had, by this time, already been detained for more than one month.

    * * * * *

    JUDGE DROPS PADILLA TERROR CHARGE

    MIAMI (CNN) -- A federal judge in Miami has dismissed the lead terror count against Jose Padilla, the U.S. citizen once identified as a "dirty bomb" suspect and detained for three years without charges as an "enemy combatant." U.S. District Judge Marcia Cooke tossed out the first of three counts in an indictment handed down last year, Padilla's lawyer, Andrew Patel, told CNN. The dismissed count alleged that Padilla and others plotted to "murder, kidnap and maim persons in a foreign country," Patel said. Padilla has pleaded not guilty to the indictment, which includes two other counts -- conspiracy to provide material support to terrorists, and providing material support to terrorists. Those counts remain, and a trial is scheduled early next year. Padilla was originally accused of -- but never charged with -- being a potential "dirty bomber," plotting to detonate a crude radioactive device in the United States, and later scheming to blow up apartment buildings using natural gas.