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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    July 12, 2006
    COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN - JULY 12, 2006

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • ONE-ON-ONE WITH BARBARA BOXER: Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.)
    • ROBERT NOVAK SPEAKS OUT: David Shuster, "Hardball" correspondent
    • WHAT'S RUDY GIULIANI UP TO?: Howard Fineman, Newsweek

    "What a Piece of Work Is This Man"

    Tonight we got a spinapalooza of bias, hypocrisy, and reckless slander from Krazy Keith. Plus it was "Attack the Media" night again on Countdown. "Attack the Media" is bad when conservatives criticize somebody's report. But in the Bizarro world of OlbyPlanet, "Attack the Media" is good when Keith Olbermann righteously bashes a competitor with six times his viewership.

    The Hour of Spin began with KO referencing Donald Rumsfeld's "odd sense of humor", when a National Guardsman asked him for better vehicles. Bellowed Olby:

    Donald Rumsfeld makes a joke out of it!

    For the record, Rummy's reply. After going on and explaining a bit about the budget and where it goes:

    I can't answer why your particular unit ends up with one of the oldest pieces of equipment, but I'll bet you Gen Casey can.

    All those Marines who chuckled at the Secretary's response (is this what Keith considers a "joke"?) must also have an "odd" sense of humor. At least it would appear odd to the likes of Olbermann. Then there was some talk about the strange locales that have been added to the Homeland Security list of possible terror targets, including a popcorn factory. Thus it was that Sen Boxer appeared for an exciting one-and-one with the Spinmeister. This means it is time to update The List (partisan politicos and strategists interviewed on Countdown):

    • May 22: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
    • May 30: Rep Barney Frank (D)
    • June 9: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
    • June 15: Bob Schrum (D)
    • June 16: Rep John Murtha (D)
    • June 19: Al Gore (D)
    • June 20: Sen Jack Reed (D)
    • June 20: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
    • June 23: Al Gore (D)
    • July 5: Lawrence O'Donnell (D)
    • July 12: Barbara Boxer (D)

    Barbara Bouncer let loose with a torrent of DNC talking points: Homeland Security is the department "that brought you Katrina". We need to change the Congress. Yes, she turned this into a Democrat campaign ad, and Olby allowed it. Hell, he probably encouraged it. Then it was on to Iraq and post-traumatic stress and time for O'Reilly Attack #99. KO said a "commentator of large mouth and small brain" addressed the subject and ran a clip from The O'Reilly Factor where Bill asked a question of Col David Hunt, who said Boxer knows better, that soldiers on depressants cannot go into combat, and that there's some lying going on. At that point, OlbySpin whirled into hyperdrive:

    Senator, give me your reaction to Mr O'Reilly and Col Hunt.
    Stop the tivo! Why is he asking for a reaction to Mr Bill? All O'Reilly did is ask if Boxer's assertions were correct. No matter. The mere fact that Mr Bill has a guest on who isn't sympatico with the latest progressive talking points is enough for KO to prod his guest to smear with impunity. But is Boxer really so dense as to fall into that trap? Will she go after O'Reilly, or confine her comments to the Colonel's opinion?
    Well all I can say is, they don't know what they're talking about.

    They? Who's they? What did O'Reilly say? He asked a freaking question! Bouncer went on to contradict the Colonel's statement, and says troops are going into combat while medicated with anti-depressants. Then the Senator continued:

    And the other thing they called me a liar on...

    Again, who's the "they"? She went on to quibble about some statistic, and rambled on about supporting the troops, mental health, and stopping the name-calling (are you listening, Olby?). Added KO:

    Of course, when we're talking about mental health that is not Mr O'Reilly's strong point to begin with.

    Apparently Olbermann wasn't listening. Then it was more campaigning: "our party voted", an amendment "by John Kerry", "we are for change". Thus ends a segment so biased that it would have embarrassed Baghdad Bob. Presumably now we will see elected officials like Sen Santorum and Rep Hoekstra invited on Countdown to rebut Keith's smears of them?

    Any mention of The Great Leak Case means the return of Slippery Shuster. First KO grudgingly ran clips from Brit Hume's exclusive interview, then Dave showed up to "analyze". It's a matter of who you believe, he told us, either Bill Harlow of the CIA, or Novak, who had discrepancies with Rove, Harlow, and maybe even primary source Mr X. Just as he did yesterday, Shuster went out of his way to impugn Novak's integrity, suggesting he was not credible but Harlow was. But he said not one word about Harlow's discrepancies: Harlow said Valerie Plame had done nothing regarding Wilson's selection to go to Niger. But the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee proved that to be a lie by turning up a document where she explicitly suggested him for the job. Isn't that a discrepancy, Slippery? Why do you only report on Novak's discrepancies?

    The double standard on OlbyPlanet is always fascinating, and of course hypocritical. Scooter Libby cannot be trusted because he has discrepancies with reporters like Tim Russert and the scribblers from the New York Times. The reporters are presumed truthful, the bureaucrat not. Now all of a sudden, it's the bureaucrat who is portrayed as righteous, and the reporter who is smeared. But there's no bias here, not on the "nonpartisan" Countdown.

    Other than that, both KO and Shuster carefully avoided Novak's other comments about the existence (or lack of it) of a conspiracy to discredit Joe Wilson. Or the fact that Plame was not covert, and that's why nobody, not even Mr X, was charged. This kind of selective reporting is what sets The Hour of Spin apart. Then the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann said there was something else that "raised journalistic eyebrows" (not an inconsiderable feat in his case). KO spoke of Novak's conversation with Harlow:

    If your source does not deny something and in fact seems to inadvertently confirm it by saying "don't run with it", I know I would have, at any stage of my career, including WBBR at Cornell, have had a hard time getting that past my bosses as a solid source. This is Jayson Blair-like, is it not?

    Shuster immediately agreed. Why skip another change to slander Novak? Of course, it wasn't Mr X who told him don't run it. It was Harlow, whom Novak turned to just to get a confirmation. And here's what Olbermann doesn't tell you about Novak's conversation with Harlow. When Novak first asked about Plame, Harlow said he'd have to take the question and get back to him. Harlow called back and asked him not to print the name. But that's not all he said. Quoting Novak himself:

    He said it is very unlikely she will ever go to Europe.
    Stop the tivo! Isn't that a little bit more than "don't run with it"? Olbermann compares Robert Novak to Jayson Blair, based on a false characterization of the conversation. Harlow actually said much more than "dont run with it", enough that even an addle-pated Cornell student who bumped his head once too often should be able to figure out what was going on. But to Olbermann it's an opportunity to again attack the media, since the target is someone who doesn't parrot OlbySpin. This is one of the most despicable smears KO has unleashed--and that's saying something.

    After that repellent display of character assassination, we felt like taking a shower. But duty demands that we stay on the job to report that oddball was followed by political news. KO was upset that Rudy Giuliani was campaigning for Rick Santorum, a guy who's way behind in the polls. Hey, we can understand that. We don't know why TVNewser, TV Guide, the MSM, and Dan Abrams are all campaigning for a guy who's way behind in the ratings.

    Speaking of polls, remember how Olby kept detailing every little Bush drop and downturn in the polls. When the Fox News poll came out showing him over 40%, all of a sudden the Presidential poll numbers on Countdown took a backseat. Tonight KO cited a Gallup poll about 2008 preferences (it ranked Rudy as the top GOP contender), but today's Gallup Poll found Bush job approval at the 40% mark for the first time since February (back when KO was hyping poll numbers ad nauseam). So do you think nonpartisan Keith reported on this Gallup poll number? Here's a hint: NO!

    With Fineman ready to conform himself to the approved line, Olbermann resorted to a tactic he usually saves for President Bush. (Since Giuliani is so popular, damage control was essential.) It's the one where whatever he does, it's somehow a bad move. Tonight's example:

    If Rudy Giuliani has designs on becoming the next President of the United States, is Senator Santorum the guy he wants to be associating himself with?.... Is he not going to, at some point, have to reconcile that, that, those stances on those issues that are so significant to the far-right, that just showing up for Rick Santorum, especially if Rick Santorum continues to crash and burn here, is it going to be enough just to, just to have been sitted, seated next to him with his hand behind his back?

    Then KO brought up Ann Coulter's comments about the Jersey Girls, and came up with another gem:

    To denounce it, Giuliani would have to blast Ann Coulter. But is not ignoring it ultimately worse than picking either an endorsement or a denunciation?

    How old is this story, anyhow? How many days has Keith been flogging it? Did Krazy Keith ask Barbara Boxer to denounce Dick Durbin's comparison of US troops to Communists and Nazis? Did he ask her to denounce Cindi Sheehan for calling terrorists in Iraq "freedom fighters"? Did he challenge Boxer because she neither endorsed nor denounced Harry Belafonte's claim that Bush is the world's greatest terrorist? Oh well, he probably just ran out of time. Sheesh!

    #2: Soccer head-butting (recycled from ITV), baseball, Barnard Hughes, and the "infamous Rupert Murdoch", getting blamed for something a columnist wrote in the New York Post. #1 was all about Vladimir Putin, with that expert on international affairs, Mo Rocca.

    In the "worst person" segment, press persons for a Republican (natch!) committee were "worser" because they put out a press release about an upcoming global warming documentary, and dared to criticize the reporter. When will these people learn? You want to attack a reporter, make sure it's Robert Novak. That's perfectly fine. Criticize anyone else and Olbermann will slam you for spouting "lies and crap".

    Wait! Stop the presses! It's an Olby News Alert!

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    Yes, the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann has done it! Another milestone for television journalism. O'Reilly Attack #100. Pop those champagne corks, Dan Abrams!

    O'Reilly's "worst person" status was shared with Laura Ingraham, because they were critical of the New York Times for publishing Donald Rumsfeld's vacation house photo. Bellowed Olby:

    They never mention that Mr Rumsfeld gave the Times permission to take and publish the photo, or that now even the Secret Service says publishing it represented no threat to anyone or anything.

    Talk about not mentioning stuff, Olby never mentioned that the photo shows a birdhouse, and the article goes out of its way to point out that a security camera is secreted in it. And Olby didn't bother to quote the Secret Service directly. Could it be because their statement didn't jibe with KO's false characterization:

    As you can imagine, we would prefer less information than more in that regard. However, we take necessary steps to provide security wherever one of our protectees lives, and do our best to be as unobtrusive as possible to neighbors and the general public.

    So did Rumsfeld give the Times permission to identify the hidden security camera? And is it true, as some have reported, that the Secret Service has upped security there since the publication? Don't expect any of that to be addressed by comedian Keith Olbermann, the most dangerous demagogue in America.


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    Boxer was, I believe, invited on the show to respond to attacks by O'Reilly.

    What a surprise.

    It remains to be seen if KO will invite Santorum and Hoekstra on to respond to his charges that they were engaging in "McCarthyite tactics".

    Since "Countdown" has a non-partisan host (in his words), I'm sure we'll see it later this week or early next.

    SMG

    Krazy Keith doesn't have the courage to allow any one with an opposing point of view. He knows he'd get his butt kicked.

    If Olbernut is attacking Guilliani that means the Left is scared of him. How come he refers to Republicans as far Right but never the Dems as Far left?

    Keith attacks Ann Coulter every night
    I'd take Ann even odds in a fight
    She'd bring her gun
    Mr. Man-Tan would run
    Under his desk to tremble with fright

    Holy Cow! You were shot out of a cannon tonight Mr. Dollar!

    The Republicans are more afraid of Guilliani than the Democrats are. The thought of a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-gun control, divorced, New York President scares the base. Change Guilliani's position on money and he's a liberal Democrat.

    Change Guilliani's position on money and he's a liberal Democrat.

    Okay, then why were the liberals in New York calling him a Nazi and fascist prior to 9/11? Hell, look what the lefties are doing to Joe Lieberman. He's pro choice, pro gay rights and he's getting savaged simply because he doesn't think Bush is the anti-Christ and because he knows that we need to win in Iraq.

    Anyway, I'd include law and order, national security, foreign policy, and judges along with economics in the differences between Guiliani and the mainstream of the Democratic Party.

    Other than those minor differences, yeah, he'd be a Democrat.

    Nonfactor is pretending Guiliani is not a hard core hawk visa vi Iraq. So much for his resemblance to Democrats This Republican would vote for Guiliani in a New York Second.

    "The Republicans are more afraid of Guilliani than the Democrats are. The thought of a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-gun control, divorced, New York President scares the base. Change Guilliani's position on money and he's a liberal Democrat."

    Wishful thinking on your part Nonfactor. He's not Pro-Gay marriage. He's pro Civil Unions so gays can recive benefits. He's shifted his Gun control position.
    Ironically the Christian Right hates McCain so much they'll back a Libertarian Republican like Giulliani. What Rudy has going in his favor is the fact he's to the Right of Bush and McCain on National Security and Foreign Policy. He's anti-UN, European Union, China and Isalmo-Fascism.
    He's a Nationalist that will put this counrty's interest above other countries. That's why he'll win the GOP nomination and crush Hillary and the Left in the general election.

    His Nationalistic views will neutalize his social views. That's why he's not even close to being a Democrat. the Dems are International Socialist that do the bidding of the UN, EU, Islamic nations and China. Rudy hate all of them!
    He'll also not hesitate to shut down the trasonous NY Times or have Olbermann locked up or deported!

    Nonfactor you proved my point, Rudy is the Left's worst nightmare. That's why Republicans back him!

    "The Republicans are more afraid of Guilliani than the Democrats are. The thought of a pro-choice, pro-gay marriage, pro-gun control, divorced, New York President scares the base. Change Guilliani's position on money and he's a liberal Democrat."

    Wishful thinking on your part Nonfactor. He's not Pro-Gay marriage. He's pro Civil Unions so gays can recive benefits. He's shifted his Gun control position.
    Ironically the Christian Right hates McCain so much they'll back a Libertarian Republican like Giulliani. What Rudy has going in his favor is the fact he's to the Right of Bush and McCain on National Security and Foreign Policy. He's anti-UN, European Union, China and Isalmo-Fascism.
    He's a Nationalist that will put this counrty's interest above other countries. That's why he'll win the GOP nomination and crush Hillary and the Left in the general election.

    His Nationalistic views will neutalize his social views. That's why he's not even close to being a Democrat. the Dems are International Socialist that do the bidding of the UN, EU, Islamic nations and China. Rudy hate all of them!
    He'll also not hesitate to shut down the trasonous NY Times or have Olbermann locked up or deported!

    Nonfactor you proved my point, Rudy is the Left's worst nightmare. That's why Republicans back him!

    Nonfactor,
    That's why the spokesman for Leftists-Islamist alliance Keith Olbermann is nerbvous about Guilliani! He knows Rudy isn't a wuss like Bush and will not hesitate to put the Traitorous Left in it's place!

    Hooray for Hezzbollah! They taught those Zionists a lesson.
    Fellow Lefties our allies are winning!

    Just because marines laugh at Rumsfeld's lame joke makes it okay? The troops need to protect themselves, and when one of them has a chance to talk to the Secretary of Defense about it he dances around the topic and ends with a "joke." I love how you just set one sentence aside to talk about the joke that Homeland Security has become in their allocation of funds.

    If this is the 99th "attack" on O'Reilly we must be in line for the 99th "defense" of the man. Going by your logic since O'Reilly had Col Hunt on and "allowed it" he by default "probably encouraged it," am I starting to get it right now? I don't agree with your or Olbermann's statement, but at least the Supermanesque jump wasn't made on the show like you've made in this 'analysis'. I'll also try and find the transcript to see if O'Reilly agreed with Col. Hunt or not.

    She went on to quibble about some statistic, and rambled on about supporting the troops, mental health, and stopping the name-calling

    Yeah, who cares, she was only talking about the health of our troops.

    First KO grudgingly ran clips from Brit Hume's exclusive interview

    J$ can know read Olbermann's feelings through the T.V. screen.

    suggesting he was not credible but Harlow was.

    So you're saying Robert Novak is credible?

    The double standard on OlbyPlanet is always fascinating, and of course hypocritical. Scooter Libby cannot be trusted because he has discrepancies with reporters like Tim Russert and the scribblers from the New York Times. The reporters are presumed truthful, the bureaucrat not. Now all of a sudden, it's the bureaucrat who is portrayed as righteous, and the reporter who is smeared. But there's no bias here, not on the "nonpartisan" Countdown

    Here you are assuming again that all reporters are the same and all bureaucrats are the same. Robert Novak is no Tim Russert.

    How does "He said it is very unlikely she will ever go to Europe." add anything to the conversation on Countdown?

    The whole "NYTimes Travel Section hates America" slant on this story about Rumsfeld's and Cheney's houses is hysterical. The location of the houses are public knowledge and the Travel section probably wouldn't have posted the location of the cameras without permission, and if they did do you think the terrorists now can assassinate Rumsfeld because of that? A similar article was published in a conservative newspaper months earlier and no outrage. This was just an attempted excuse for the conservative base to rally around the hatred for the New York times--even if it was just the travel section. Read this and become educated.

    Hey Nonfactor, what's your response to my posting on Rudy? Rudy scares you Lefties huh?

    The Republican base will reject Rudy Guilliani, at least until he changes his position on abortion.

    "The Republican base will reject Rudy Guilliani, at least until he changes his position on abortion."

    Wishful thinking. His Nationalist views will trump the Abortion issue. Who cares about abortion when you have Islmnao-Fascism and China/N.Korea as a threat. What unites the right is Nationalism.
    Once agion Nonfactor you haven't really answer my points. Why not try?

    We'll see.

    Translated remarks from the Russian President on the very public display of affection:

    Vladimir Putin:
    "Little Nikita and I are to be married. We allow this in the U.S.S., er, Russia. Once again we have demonstrated the Sovi, er, Commu, um, the power of the people to choose their own deviant lifestyle, if they so choose..."

    Keef's and Rocca's rating: TWO FISTS WAY WAY UP!

    Hell, look what the lefties are doing to Joe Lieberman. He's pro choice, pro gay rights and he's getting savaged simply because he doesn't think Bush is the anti-Christ and because he knows that we need to win in Iraq.

    To paraphrase a famous campaign slogan: "It's more than the war, stupid."

    Despite being endorsed by NARAL and Planned Parenthood, Senator Lieberman voted for cloture on debate over Justice Alito and then cast a meaningless vote when it was clear he was going to be confirmed.

    Lieberman is also opposed to hospitals being required to hand out contraceptives to rape victims. He argues that if a hospital refuses, the rape victim has only a "short ride" to another hospital. Is it any wonder the pro-choice crowd calls him "Rape Gurney Joe"?

    Despite overwhelming opposition both within his own party and within the realm of public opinion, Lieberman believed that the Congress was right to intervene in the Terri Schiavo case.

    He is opposed to same-sex marriage. In fact, despite the fact Lieberman claims he votes "90% of the time" with his party, on the votes that matter he walks hand-in-hand with the President.

    So it's not just the war. It's the fact that Joe Lieberman has suddenly decided after 18 years of being a Democrat he wants to be a DINO and still get party backing. That's not gonna wash with the rank-and-file. If it did, why is the august Senator sending out mailers nationally to recurit for volunteers?

    "The Republicans are more afraid of Guilliani than the Democrats are.

    Except that nearly every poll shows Rudy as either the leading Republican candidate or second for 2008.

    And WTF does Rudy being divorced have to do with anything other than another smear? Ever hear of Jane Wyman? Here's a clue: she was Ronald Reagan's first wife.

    I lasted 12 minutes last night. I couldn't take it! Its just so over the top. How in the hell can any network keep this guy on? Say what you want about Fox (to the right), CNN (to the left), I don't know what other then Anarchist would be used to describe it. I wish sometimes we could just throw the cuffs on a guy like Keith, go out to the town square, guillotine him and keep his head on a pike for all to see.

    [[Of course, when we're talking about mental health that is not Mr O'Reilly's strong point to begin with.]]

    When Olberman finally runs into O'Reilly face to face he is going to shit himself right on the spot. Who is going to clean up all of the cum on the floor?

    This probably marks a turning point in Countdown.

    Never before has there been this much slant on news.

    Incredible. It's just incredible.

    This probably marks a turning point for Countdown.

    Never before has there been this much slant on news.

    Incredible. It's just incredible.

    I'm not sure how the other members of MSNBC can watch this idioit every night and not think he doesn't hurt their credibility.

    This issue is not even a left or right issue in my mind. If he wants to have a liberal slanted show fine, but the manner in which he does it is getting more and more ridiculus. I can't imagine that Dan Abrahams wants this clown around long term.

    JJ

    There are no turns on Meltdown, for to turn you need direction. On Olby's show there is only dizzying, continuous spin.

    It does appear that Olbermann has been emboldened by his imaginary "success," and is more willing to make up the news now, kind of like a mad dictator who keeps pushing the limits. I can hear his subconscious saying, "so they haven't fired me yet? So they are relying on me? Well, I'll teach them a lesson!"

    So it's not just the war.

    You believe that if Lieberman came out against the war and critcized Bush for the action, the left would still be opposed to him?

    Sorry, I don't believe that would be happening.

    The standard to be a Democrat in good standing is you must express your loathing of Bush.

    If you don't, you're persona non grata.

    SMG

     
    PERMANENT U.S. MILITARY OCCUPATION NOW IN IRAQ STOP ISRAEL BACKED BY U.S. PRESENCE STOP ISRAEL ATTACKS LEBANNON STOP VIOLENCE ESCALATING QUICKLY STOP OIL AT SEVENTY FIVE AND HEADING TO A HUNDRED STOP MIDDLE EAST REGIONAL ESCALATIONS PROCEEDING PER PNAC SCHEDULING STOP PLEASE ADVISE PLANS PER SYRIA AND IRAN STOP MUST INITIATE PHASE III OPERATIONS BY 08 ELECTIONS STOP
     

    So how's that civil war in Iraq working out?

    Are you aware that no government in the history of civilization, other than the Bush Administration, has lowered taxes during a war?

    So how secure are our borders and/or ports? Wasn't Bush supposed to be the best at protecting American's?

    How sad is it that a president holds a news conference to tought a $300 billion DEFICIT where as when he entered into the presidency he was handed a $250 billion SURPLUS?

    Since Republicans control the White House, Senate and House of Representatives, how personally responsible are they for conditions in America today?

    Any thoughts on the fact that under this current administration (run at the top by 2 former energy men) the price of gas has more than DOUBLED?

    How do you feel about an administration that contantly uses fear of terrorist attacks to get whatever it wants accomplished? (btw, that too is also a terrorist tactic)

    Are you glad liberals passed such programs as Social Security, Medicare, the Civil Rights Act, women's suffrage, federal deposit insurance, unemployment compensation, rural electrification, child labor laws, minimum wages and the 40-hour work week?

    In 2000 Bush ran on the platform of both being a "uniter" and also "restoring honor" to the White House. You have to agree that he has defintely not "united" the country and is allowing torture "honorable"? Is there "honor" in the various scandals (Delay, Jefferson, Cunningham, Abramoff) that have erupted involving both parties? Is there "honor" in Rove helping out a CIA agent?

    AND, atleast Al Gore never got drunk and shot someone in the face.

    Oh yeah, where's Osama again??

    "Get 'er done!"

    Actually SteveMG many many many Dems loathe Leiberman. Why do you think he's having to run now as an independent? Please try to stay more informed.

    Actually SteveMG many many many Dems loathe Leiberman

    And they loathe him because of his support for the war and his unwillingness to call Bush a fascist Nazi monster.

    No one seriously believes that had Lieberman come out against the war and called Bush a monkeychimpHitler that the left would be organized against him. Lieberman is a decent guy who doesn't think conservatives are Satan's minions.

    And right now in order to be a Democrat in good-standing, you must not do that.

    This stuff about his NARAL rating or other policy views are meaningless. Harry Reid has a NARAL rating of about zero since he's pro-life. And the left isn't after Reid. That's because Reid is against the war and because he calls Bush names.

    Please, take ofr your ideological blinders and answer this: If Joe Lieberman had come out against the war, would Ned Lamont and the DailyKos crowd be after him?

    SMG

    If Joe Lieberman had come out against the war, would Ned Lamont and the DailyKos crowd be after him?

    Yes. I laid it all out already. You just choose to continue to beat the "it's the war" drum.

    And they're not after him any more than the Republicans "went after" Jim Jeffords when the New Hampshire Senator split off from the Republican Party and became an Independent back in 2001.

    If you took the time to actually read the news coming out of Connecticut, you could see how out-of-touch Senator Lieberman has become on almost every issue that matters to his constiuents.

    Anon wrote:

    "And they're not after him [Liebermann]any more than the Republicans "went after" Jim Jeffords when the New Hampshire Senator split off from the Republican Party and became an Independent back in 2001."

    If Jeffords had voted 90% with the GOP, no one would have been "after him". Also, we weren't asking Jeffords to denounce the policies of the Dems and the Clintons as evil and to call the Clintons liars. However, it seems that treating President Bush in this fashion is what is expected of Dem candidates to avoid the wrath of the frothing at the mouth fringe that speaks for so many of the Democratic faithful these days. Pity.

    out already. You just choose to continue to beat the "it's the war" drum.

    It's not me beating the war drum. It's the left that beats the war drum. It's why Hillary Clinton is in some of the same trouble as Lieberman.

    For every issue that Lieberman is allegedly in trouble with Democrats (both in Connecticut and outside the state), Clinton is in the clear. She was against cloture. She's 100% pro-choice on abortion. And yet the left is against her too.

    Why? Because she supported the war and is against a withdrawal of troops until the Iraqis are able to stand on their own.

    You actually believe that had Lieberman voted against cloture in the Alito confirmation and supported forcing Catholic hospitals to violate their religious views (so much for the liberal view of "separation of church and state") that Lieberman would not be in trouble with Connecticut Democrats?

    Joe Lieberman is a decent guy who wants to bring folks together. And the left in the Democrat party wants their representatives to piss all over Republicans.

    And yes I read some of the press in Connecticut.

    But I do so without ideological blinders preventing me from seeing things.

    SMG

    If you took the time to actually read the news coming out of Connecticut, you could see how out-of-touch Senator Lieberman has become on almost every issue that matters to his constiuents.

    Lieberman's loyalties lie with the jewish neocons who mapped out PNAC and fought for control of the Pentagon for the last couple of decades (and won). no, it's not some cloaked zionist plot, it's just the far right Likud party in concert with the far right Republican party (not that there's anything wrong with that).

    Rebuilding America's Defences (2000): Strategies, Forces And Resources For A New Century
    written by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC).

    Calls for unprecedented hikes in military spending, American military bases in Central Asia and Middle East, toppling of non-complying regimes, abrogation of international treaties, control of the world's energy sources, militarization of outer space, total control of cyberspace, and the willingness to use nuclear weapons to achieve American goals.

    Phase I   -- Iraq
    Phase II  -- Lebanon and Syria
    Phase III -- Iran
    Phase IV -- Saudi Arabia

    makes perfect sense: secure israel, secure the middle east, secure the oil. and who knows it might even work. we'll see.
     

    Lieberman doesn't support gay marriage, but does support civil unions and the right those provide.

    Lieberman thought that a filibuster on a supreme Court Justice would establish a dangerous precedent.

    Lieberman respects the right of religious institutions (that includes hospitals) to make their own rules and seems to understand their rights that form the basis of a capitalist society.

    I guess old Joe isn't pro-choice enough.

    With all this pragmatism, I know understand why the left hates him. That and the fact that he isn't so secular that Sweden would be proud. Respect for tradition means your out of the democrat "big tent". Real inclusive of you.

    I don't know where Osama is NOW, but I know where he WAS. The Sudan. Hell, I was offered him twice but I turned them down. There wasnt a BJ in it for me. Those Sudanes interns just didn't do it for me.

    Try as the media might try to build up Guiliani, and McCain for that matter, neither will receive the GOP nomination. Nor should they. So I must disagree with my otherwise illustrious Olberwatcher who thinks otherwise. Why would you vote for a man who is liberal on social but conservative otherwise over someone who is conservative across the board? Why would a liberal democrat vote for Giuliani when they can vote for someone who is liberal who is across the board? Rudy is for partial birth abortion for crying out loud. I don't think he has a reality's chance in the DNC of winning the GOP nomination. He has big name recognition and he did a great job rallying people in NYC and the country after 9-11. He's not as liberal as Michael Bloomberg but he's still very liberal.

    Since when did the New York times and other media become untouchable? It's truly amazing to ponder the arrogance! No one dares be THEIR watchdog.

    You actually believe that had Lieberman voted against cloture in the Alito confirmation and supported forcing Catholic hospitals to violate their religious views (so much for the liberal view of "separation of church and state") that Lieberman would not be in trouble with Connecticut Democrats?

    I think he'd be in less trouble. 78% of Connecticut voters believe that there should be a law requiring a hospital that recieves public money must provide emergency contraception to rape victims, even if the hospital is a Catholic one. 74% of Catholics surveyed believe the same thing. Yet despite strong public support from his own constitutents, Lieberman refuses to support any such law.

    And the left in the Democrat party wants their representatives to piss all over Republicans.

    No, we want Democrats who actually represent their constiuents, something that Joe Lieberman doesn't do anymore.

    NONFACTOR....Abortion is the law of the land. It's settled. We just use it to bash lefties over the head (and because it's wrong). Rowe vs Wade since'73...23 years and leftists cant win as many elections....hmmmm. Coincidence? I think not. Kill your children where's your future? Not in politics.

    KandyPants Keith and his followers believe with all their hearts the only threat to this country is GWBUSH.

    Republicans in Connecticut should cross over and vote Liebermann. Just to stick a thumb in the EYE of the lefties.

    Every cloud has a silver lining.High oil prices hurt a little for me...I mean sure i want .25 a gallon. But if you don't control the supply you don't control the price. But for me the silver lining is....they may take my $$$ and give it to people who won't work to support their own families, for housing(public housing),they may take it and give it to people for groceries(food stamps) but so far they dont give it to lazy people for fuel yet. So they get hurt the most. And that pleases me to no end.

    Correction 33yrs of Abortion**

    Republicans in Connecticut should cross over and vote Liebermann. Just to stick a thumb in the EYE of the lefties.

    Closed primary, smart guy. So only registered Democrats can vote.

    but so far they dont give it to lazy people for fuel yet. So they get hurt the most. And that pleases me to no end.

    What about the folks who can't get a job because the market stinks? You like seeing them get squeezed?

    Anon,
    I am actually dumber for having read the crap that you post. The market stinks? Who are these people getting squeezed? I know. I know. The NYTimes told you the market stinks, that things are awful, not for you, of course, but for somebody. For "those people", the economy is terrible.

    Please post some stupid stat telling us the economy is terrible. Anything from that dumbass, Robert Reich, will suffice.

    No crash he's right things are so bad in US under Bush, I actually saw a car from the 1990's today. I'm like hey thats an antique.

    The NYTimes told you the market stinks, that things are awful, not for you, of course, but for somebody.

    Actually, yes for me. I've spent the last 13 months unemployed because I have too much education to get a minimum-wage job and no jobs are available for people with my educational background.

    I don't qualify for unemployment because I just got out of college, and I don't qualify for welfare either.

    Every cloud has a silver lining.High oil prices hurt a little for me...I mean sure i want .25 a gallon. But if you don't control the supply you don't control the price. But for me the silver lining is....they may take my $$$ and give it to people who won't work to support their own families, for housing(public housing),they may take it and give it to people for groceries(food stamps) but so far they dont give it to lazy people for fuel yet. So they get hurt the most. And that pleases me to no end.

    The mindset of your average conservative. Ignore the corporate welfare that's going on and focus on the welfare for people who actually need it. Then dismiss all people who use food stams as lazy and treat yourself as a victim.

    Yes most people on welfare are sucking the nipple of Uncle Sucker,they got game,and play the system like a piano. Sure there are exceptions but rare.
    Anon that sounds really bad. Tough break and all.
    Maybe go back to school and take up something more usefull.Good Luck.

    Anon,

    Too much education in English Lit huh?

    I love how conviently no one decided to try to answer any of the questions that I posed earlier. So, naturally, I'll pose them again.....


    So how's that civil war in Iraq working out?

    Are you aware that no government in the history of civilization, other than the Bush Administration, has lowered taxes during a war?

    So how secure are our borders and/or ports? Wasn't Bush supposed to be the best at protecting American's?

    How sad is it that a president holds a news conference to tought a $300 billion DEFICIT where as when he entered into the presidency he was handed a $250 billion SURPLUS?

    Since Republicans control the White House, Senate and House of Representatives, how personally responsible are they for conditions in America today?

    Any thoughts on the fact that under this current administration (run at the top by 2 former energy men) the price of gas has more than DOUBLED?

    How do you feel about an administration that contantly uses fear of terrorist attacks to get whatever it wants accomplished? (btw, that too is also a terrorist tactic)

    Are you glad liberals passed such programs as Social Security, Medicare, the Civil Rights Act, women's suffrage, federal deposit insurance, unemployment compensation, rural electrification, child labor laws, minimum wages and the 40-hour work week?

    In 2000 Bush ran on the platform of both being a "uniter" and also "restoring honor" to the White House. You have to agree that he has defintely not "united" the country and is allowing torture "honorable"? Is there "honor" in the various scandals (Delay, Jefferson, Cunningham, Abramoff) that have erupted involving both parties? Is there "honor" in Rove helping out a CIA agent?

    AND, atleast Al Gore never got drunk and shot someone in the face.

    Oh yeah, where's Osama again??

    "Get 'er done!"

    The above post is based on my extensive knowledge of welfare fraud. You see I never speak without knowing what I am talking about and coming from a family of southern crackers that gamed the system I can assure that most are frauds. They suck the teet just like My daddy used to.

    Here's another.....

    Is it disgraceful that Bush would fly back to the White House, in the middle of the night, to try to hold a special session on Terry Schiavo but wouldn't fly back to DC for 4 days after Katrina hit?

    Well Terry Schiavo was brain dead you see. In psychological terms this would be social identification. It's where you tend to feel emotions for people you percieve as in your in group. In this case George Bush felt a certain empathy for Terry because he too is brain dead. So he precieved her as being a member of the braindead group.

    "So how's that civil war in Iraq working out?"

    You mean the one that elected that coalition government?


    "Are you aware that no government in the history of civilization, other than the Bush Administration, has lowered taxes during a war?"

    so...

    "So how secure are our borders and/or ports? Wasn't Bush supposed to be the best at protecting American's?"

    Good point ask your buddies Boxer and Feinstein and Clinton why they allowed 80% of California's ports to be owned by China?

    "How do you feel about an administration that contantly uses fear of terrorist attacks to get whatever it wants accomplished? (btw, that too is also a terrorist tactic)"

    Its called calling a spade, a spade; you terrorist loving, granola eating, sissy boy.

    "Any thoughts on the fact that under this current administration (run at the top by 2 former energy men) the price of gas has more than DOUBLED?"

    Well that's why went into Iraq, right? Dumbshit. I know this is hard for you liberals to understand, but the President doesn't control the market for oil. What he can influence is the ability to bring supply to the demand, but thanks to you dumbshit liberals that voted down Anwar over 10 years ago, and the restrictions on building refineries thirty years ago, that supply has remained steady while demand has grown exponentially. Its called supply and demand.

    "Are you glad liberals passed such programs as Social Security, Medicare, the Civil Rights Act, women's suffrage, federal deposit insurance, unemployment compensation, rural electrification, child labor laws, minimum wages and the 40-hour work week?"

    No. I am a true Darwinist. I believe in Social Darwinism as well. Did liberals event the wheel too?

    "Anwar over 10 years ago,"

    That's true if Anwar passed today gas would only be $2.95 a gallon and not $3.00 a gallon freaking democratic morons.

    Boy see Bush and Co. said we went to Iraq for WMD's. Than they said it was because Sadam was bad to his people. They never mentioned anything about going there for the oil. Interesting.

    BTW, Jesus was a liberal. Too bad Pat Robertson and his ilk aren't eh?

    Crash, you still didn't answer....

    In 2000 Bush ran on the platform of both being a "uniter" and also "restoring honor" to the White House. You have to agree that he has defintely not "united" the country and is allowing torture "honorable"? Is there "honor" in the various scandals (Delay, Jefferson, Cunningham, Abramoff) that have erupted involving both parties? Is there "honor" in Rove helping out a CIA agent?

    How sad is it that a president holds a news conference to tought a $300 billion DEFICIT where as when he entered into the presidency he was handed a $250 billion SURPLUS?

    Since Republicans control the White House, Senate and House of Representatives, how personally responsible are they for conditions in America today?

    Is it disgraceful that Bush would fly back to the White House, in the middle of the night, to try to hold a special session on Terry Schiavo but wouldn't fly back to DC for 4 days after Katrina hit?

    Oh yeah, where's Osama again??

    Also I love how those on the right always like to still blame Clinton for everything. If you all want to play that game than we can start blaming Bush 1 and Reagan b/c they held the office before Clinton. So it's all Reagans fault. Wait Wait I got it. It's all George Washington's fault. Wait wait, it's all the early British empires fault. Wait wait, it was the Roman's fault. Bush has been in office for 5+ years, blaming Clinton these days is truly sad. Oh well. Keep up the good work.

    1.4 million barrels a day. from ANWR. http://www.doi.gov/news/030312.htm

    Crash, so you believe in Darwinism even though Darwin pretty much said God doesn't exist?

    From the Ned Lamont website (http://www.nedlamont.com), on the first page:

    "I am running for the US Senate because we deserve a Senator who will stand up for Connecticut and stand up for our progressive democratic values. Rather than spending hundreds of millions of dollars a day in Iraq, it is time for America to refocus on issues back home: fixing our health care system, upgrading our schools, and rebuilding our aging infrastructure. We will start winning in Iraq as the Iraqis take control of their own destiny, just as America has to start investing again in our own future."

    End of statement.

    Nothing about cloture, nothing about judges, nothing about gay marriage, nothing about contraception and Catholic hospitals.

    Iraq, Iraq and Iraq.

    SMG

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4542853/

    Little impact from Anwar drilling

    That's right genious. I am an atheist.

    "That's right genious. I am an atheist"You will burn in hell with your liberal buddies.

    "That's right genious. I am an atheist"


    You will burn in hell with your liberal buddies.

    Pat,
    Your the reason why liberals say conservatives are intolerant.


    CROCODILE DUNDEE KILLED BY GUN-CONFISCATING POLICE

    November 2000

    Last August, Rodney William Ansell, the rugged Aussie whose real life exploits inspired the Crocodile Dundee movies, died in a shootout with Australian police who had come to confiscate his unregistered firearms. A police sergeant was also killed in the incident. Ansell had been named 1988 Australian Man of the Year for inspiring the movie and putting Australia on the Tourism Map.

    What motivated this shooting? In 1996, Australia adopted draconian gun control laws banning 60% of all firearms and requiring registration of all firearms and licensing of gun owners. As a result, Rod Ansell believed that police were coming to confiscate his unregistered firearms. In Austrailia today, police do not need a search warrant to enter your house and search for guns. Police can search door-to-door looking for un-surrendered weapons in their gun buyback program. They have been using previous gun registration and license lists to check for non-compliance and confiscate now illegal firearms.

    Notes former California State Senator H.L. Richardson "They outlawed every semi-auto, even those duck guns, pump shotguns and semi-auto hunting rifles. In today's Australia, it is illegal for any citizen except officers to own even .22's and sporting shotguns designed for duck hunting."

    ------------------

    White House Argued For Warrantless Physical Searches

    In the dark days after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, a small group of lawyers from the White House and the Justice Department began meeting to debate a number of novel legal strategies to help prevent another attack. Soon after, President Bush authorized the National Security Agency to begin conducting electronic eavesdropping on terrorism suspects in the United States, including American citizens, without court approval. Meeting in the FBI's state-of-the-art command center in the J. Edgar Hoover Building, White House lawyers talked with senior FBI officials about using the same legal authority to conduct physical searches of homes and businesses of terrorism suspects--also without court approval, one current and one former government official tell U.S. News. "There was a fair amount of discussion at Justice on the warrantless physical search issue," says a former senior FBI official. "Discussions about--if [the searches] happened--where would the information go, and would it taint cases."

    FBI Director Robert Mueller was alarmed by the proposal, the two officials said, and pushed back hard against it. "Mueller was personally very concerned," one official says, "not only because of the blowback issue but also because of the legal and constitutional questions raised by warrantless physical searches." FBI spokesman John Miller said none of the FBI's senior staff are aware of any such discussions and added that the bureau has not conducted "physical searches of any location without consent or a judicial order."

    When the Fox News poll came out showing him over 40%, all of a sudden the Presidential poll numbers on Countdown took a backseat.

    Well, that poll is now old hat. New numbers from FOX News has the President at 36%, down 5 points from the survey you cite.

    Even with a 40% approval in the Gallup poll, Bush's disapproval numbers from the same poll are at 55%. Time, ABC News, Bloomberg...they all show similar numbers (varying from 50-59% disapproval). A plurality, if not a majority, of Americans disapprove of the way the President is running the country.

    Soon, more people will be reading OlbermannWatch.com than watching COuntdown.

    What's with his obsession with O'Reilly, a man he cannot beat. It's like watching the Washington Nationals taunt the Globetrotters or the 1972-73 Oilers tauning the Steelers. You are O'Reilly's bitch. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO

    Non wrote "Robert Novak is no Tim Russert"

    Do you EVER know what the hell you are talking it. I swear you are dumber than a suitcase full of rocks.

    Robert Novak is a Tim Russert if by that you mean someone who is trusted and respected by his peers in the press. I guess you were not aware that Novak has a very good reputation among his peers as a reporter which is one of the reasons you have not seen the MSM folks going after Novak.

    I suppose when you spend most of your time with a bunch of dopey OlbyLoon pals spouting off your uninformed oneliners to each other you all get real warm inside imaginging how smart you all must sound.

    It is amusing and yet painful to watch you demonstrate the depths of your stupidity on this site. I think train wreck and then I think Olbermann and then I think nonfactor and it all makes perfect sense.

    Russert? You mean the Mario Cuomo staffer who now is "mainstream media"?

    He's juts an older, fatter, taller George Stephenopolis.

    Bashing Bush is easy, thats been done.True false no difference. Lets try something harder....hmmm like naming a piece of legislation that Dems sponsored that was good for Unions. Or why don't 1 of you leftists brag about your Big City success's like Boston, it's Democrat controlled.Hows crime under Dem "leadership", taxs, schools, poverty,or construction. Come on lets here some good news from Boston.LOL

    "In Philadelphia, which has had more than 160 murders this year, the police department has responded by creating a special unit charged with roaming the streets in the dangerous hours between 10 p.m. and 3 a.m. The program, which is expected to start soon, will shift 46 officers from other assignments."

    John Franklin Street (born December 4, 1945) is the 97th Mayor of the City of Philadelphia. He was first elected to a term beginning on January 3, 2000, and was re-elected to a second term beginning in 2004. He is a Democrat and became mayor after having served 19 years in the Philadelphia City Council, including 7 years as its President, before resigning as required under the Philadelphia City Charter in order to run for Mayor. He followed Ed Rendell as mayor.

    Street is very passionate on the importance of the Democratic Party. He once was floated the possibility of being a candidate for statewide office in Pennsylvania. Since some recent corruption scandals, those prospects have diminished

    In light of recent scandals and FBI probes, his relationship with the City Council are tenuous at best. He and former councilman Michael Nutter, an announced Democratic candiate for Mayor [1] when Street's term expires in 2007, are engaged in a political sparring match. However Street did endorse and campaign for a 2005 revision of Nutter's New York-style smoking ban.

    The April 17, 2005 issue of Time Magazine listed him as one of the three worst big-city mayors in the United States.[

    Lets do Baltimore:

    "Martin O'Malley believes the foundation of Baltimore's comeback begins with public safety and a commitment to making every neighborhood an even safer place to call home."
    What does Baltimore need a comeback from? Democrat rule.LMAO.

    2004 murder rate for Baltimore:
    murders per 100,000 43.5 in Baltimore
    murders per 100,000 5.5 nationally

    Lets do Baltimore:

    "Martin O'Malley believes the foundation of Baltimore's comeback begins with public safety and a commitment to making every neighborhood an even safer place to call home."
    What does Baltimore need a comeback from? Democrat rule.LMAO.

    2004 murder rate for Baltimore:
    murders per 100,000 43.5 in Baltimore
    murders per 100,000 5.5 nationally

    Don't forget New Orleans, where the National Guard has to keep the peace for Nagin (D), or the "crime emergency" in Democrat stronghold Washington DC.

    That wasn't me posting, Crash. I think that was Keith himself, trying desperately to be funny, savvy?

    Although I do think non-christians are bad people going to hell.