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    July 31, 2006
    Pew Poll: MSNBC viewers dumbest; O'Reilly smartest

    A study by The Pew Research Center for the People and the Press found that MSNBC viewers were the least likely to be able to correctly answer three simple "current events" questions. With just one in five viewers able to name the majority party in the Congress and identify Condeleeza Rice and Vladimir Putin, MSNBC (21%) edged out CNBC (23%) viewers as the dumbest of the dumb. CNN (31%) viewers were the smartest, followed closely by Fox News (28% viewers).

    The three "high knowledge" questions were:

    1) Which party has a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives (Republicans)

    2) What is the name of the current U.S. Secretary of State (Condoleezza Rice)

    3) What is the name of the current president of Russia (Vladimir Putin)

    Pew reports "The most informed audiences belong to the political magazines, Rush Limbaugh's radio show, the O'Reilly Factor, news magazines, and online news sources." Weekly Standard readers tied with the The New Republic for the top spot overall at 50. Rush Limbaugh listeners were the smartest radio audience at 48. The O'Reilly Factor viewers were the smartest cable news audience at 41.

    Pew either did not bother to ask or could not find viewers of Countdown with Keith Olbermann which is traditionally among the very lowest rated of the cable news shows. Also notable for its absence is Air America Radio which has ratings similar to Olbermann - pathetically anemic.


    Posted by Robert Cox | Permalink | Comments (133) | | View blog reactions

    133 Comments

    Take home point for all lefties: CNN beat Fox 31% to 28%! Stop reading when you get to that factoid!

    I bet they do have stats for Countdown. They must have asked people what shows they regularly view / listen to. Perhaps a more detailed report is in the works?

    Here is the question about O'Reilly, Limbaugh, King:

    ASK ALL:
    Q.40 Now I'd like to ask you about some other television and radio programs. For each that I read, tell me if you
    watch or listen to it regularly, sometimes, hardly ever, or never. (First) how often do you ... [READ AND
    RANDOMIZE]
    Hardly Don’t Regularly Sometimes Ever Never Know

    a. Watch Larry King Live
    b. Listen to Rush Limbaugh's radio show
    c. Listen to religious radio shows such
    as "Focus on the Family"
    d. Watch “The O’Reilly Factor” with Bill O’Reilly
    e. Watch “The Daily Show” with Jon Stewart


    Are these the top rated news shows on TV? Why ain't 60 minutes included in there? Exactly how did they choose these shows? And how did John Stewart's fabled audience fair? They doth not know much, methinks.

    Polls are annoying.

    My Lord, the press is a mess saga continues, circle the wagons left wing press -

    Did you see the numbers for MessNBC
    Trend in Credibility
    2000 - 28 % thought credible
    2002 - 28 %
    2004 - 22
    2006 - 21

    They're dead last. When did Opie start with MSNBC??? And NBC's stategy with Opie - (1) get him more exposure via gettign him in the news, (2) have him desperately try to draw attention to himself (planned Nazi references) (3) attack O'Reilly every night (4) be even more biased

    Where IIISSSS Jack Welch when you need him.

    I cannot imagine GE shareholders being pleased with these numbers...as a shareholder I certainly have written to GE numerous times. Hopefully soon they will take some action and kill off this Nazi propaganda known as Countdown

    As you are a shareholder perhaps you can get them to answer a question they have, so far, now answered for me.

    How does KO's use of corporate email square with GE policies on proper use of email, diversity, workplace harrasment?

    Do they support the use of Nazi imagery to promote their cable news network?

    Did Vladimir Putin have anything to do with Valerie Plame (same initials...hmmm), Abramof, Tom Cruise, or American Idol? No?

    No wonder MSNBC viewers don't know who he is.

    I can't wait to hear Keith's take on Mel Gibson's anti-Semitic tirade. It will be rich, I'm sure.

    Dammit! Why are all the other threads f'd up again?

    Let's guess ...DoucheBag will condemn Gibson (and rightly so), without mentioning his very own Nazi Tribute salute of a few Saturdays ago.

    Liberals,,,,about all they are good for is a laugh and as an example to children of what NOT to be when grown up

    Please tell me that Keith had announced he was leaving MSNBC because of his nazi salute and that he will be entering rehab for dumbass, leftwing broadcasters.

    So 21% of KO's audience are conservatives. Interesting. That means the 79% that are dumb as a box of rocks,leftists make up the balance of KO's viewers.

    We resent any and all comparisons to the leftwing dummies who make up the bulk of Keith Olbermann's audience.

    So do we.

    Sometimes the server gets messed up due to DNS attacks.

    We are on a few folks "bad list" and get targeted from time to time.

    I disavow any association with this show as well.

    Robert, you should take it as a complement that so many of the right people hate this site. Let's hear it for free speech, isn't that right leftists. Dumbasses.

    We're proud to say we've never had any association with " Countdown with Keith Olbermann."

    From World Public Opinion (url below)

    The polling, conducted by the Program on International Policy (PIPA) at the University of Maryland and Knowledge Networks, also reveals that the frequency of these misperceptions varies significantly according to individuals’ primary source of news. Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely.

    80 percent of Fox viewers have at least one misperception regarding Iraq.

    Fox viewers: dumb as a box of rocks, but good at Trivial Pursuit.

    http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/international_security_bt/102.php?nid=&id=&pnt=102&lb=brusc

    The dumbest poster on Olbermannwatch wrote:

    "Those who primarily watch Fox News are significantly more likely to have misperceptions, while those who primarily listen to NPR or watch PBS are significantly less likely."


    For a definition of "misperceptions," see the "proper perceptions" section of the PBS/NPR report titled "Interpreting the Iraq Quagmire: Are you pessimistic enough?"

    The Olbermannwatch faithful never miss an opportunity to look stupid.

    Here are a list of the "misperceptions" from that supreme idiot's leftist site:

    "An in-depth analysis of a series of polls conducted June through September found 48% incorrectly believed that evidence of links between Iraq and al Qaeda have been found,"

    I guess people get confused by the "Al Qaeda in Iraq" group (formerly headed by Al Zarqawi who lived in Iraq prior to the invasion and who was a dedicated terrorist). Silly Fox viewers! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda_in_Iraq

    "22% that weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq"

    I guess the uranium at Al Tuwaitha and the chemical warheads were only used for peaceful purposes? Never mind the testimony by Saddam's Air Force General who stated that weapons were moved to Syria in hollowed-out commercial planes prior to the invasion.
    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/7/17/171214.shtml
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200499,00.html

    "25% that world public opinion favored the US going to war with Iraq. Overall 60% had at least one of these three misperceptions."

    Gee, our congress voted overwhelmingly for the use of force, didn't they? We went to the UN first, didn't we? Who is re-writing history here?

    Now explain again that Fox viewers are somehow dumb. Seems to me they are the only ones who are informed. You can bet that all PBS and NPR viewers are unaware of all mentioned above. You certainly are escapist.

    KfK, the fact that you cited Wikipedia as a source says it all about your willfull misleading of yourself.

    Newsmax? Aren't they the guys involved with getting a gay prostitute included in the White House Press corp? 'nuff said. Still like to see full disclosure of Gannons cummings and goings at the WH.

    Al Qaeda in Iraq? You really are willfully ignorant. Just more hype from serial liar Dick Cheney. Its all been discredited and you know it. Al Zarqawi was nobody until we gave him the opportunity.

    Why did congress vote with the president? "Evidence" of WMD, nuclear bombs over New York, the war would pay for itself, Iraqis would welcome us, etc. Pretty much the fearmongering they are trying to keep going now. I won't stick up for this do-nothing congress, but you can if you want to.

    Did someone hit escape and eject you from your carriage when you were a baby? Did you get your head caught in a subway door? You may not like the sources, but the facts are indisputable chump. Nice Gay bashing by the way! Hey, wasn't there a Congressman who had a "Gay Prostitute" living in his appartment? You know, this guy:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/tours/scandal/gobie2.htm

    "Gobie's dream has come true. His accusation that Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) knew that Gobie had operated a prostitution service out of Frank's Capitol Hill apartment became national news after it was first reported Friday by the Washington Times."

    Now why is this guy still a Congressman?

    Here is a left-wing source for you since Wikipedia makes you jittery:

    Al Qaeda in Iraq:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/08/world/middleeast/08cnd-iraq.html?ex=1307419200&en=67185caf0ac17a01&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss

    "BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 8 — Al Qaeda's leader in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, was killed in an American airstrike on an isolated safe house north of Baghdad at 6:15 p.m. local time on Wednesday, top American and Iraqi officials said today. Islamic militant Web sites linked to Al Qaeda quickly confirmed the death, saying Mr. Zarqawi had been rewarded with "martyrdom" for his role in the war here."

    As for the Al Tuwaitha Newsmax story, you missed this part of the piece:

    "First, the facts - from a reliable critic of the White House, the New York Times, which covered the story long after the paper announced it was tightening its standards on WMD news out of Iraq.

    "The repository, at Tuwaitha, a centerpiece of Saddam Hussein's nuclear weapons program until it was largely shut down after the first Persian Gulf war in 1991, holds more than 500 tons of uranium"

    The Times went on to report that amidst Saddam's yellowcake stockpile, U.S. weapons inspectors found "some 1.8 tons" that they "classified as low-enriched uranium.""

    Go back to sleep escapist. Everybody else, watch this:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6162397493278181614&q=Obsession%3A+What+The+War+on+Terror+Is+Really+About&hl=en

    How dare you use facts and real quotations KfK.
    Yes its blatantly obvious that Iraq was just a peace loving Kite flying nation. No, no Al Queda.
    Why its just coincidence that all the splodey-dopes are there now. Anyone can see Cheney's a serial liar and those sploding muslims are all a figment of wild media lies and our imaginations. In fact if you have a good enough imagination you could invent the idea that the US created all the terrorists. Of course you have to overlook a lot of history to get there but if hit_escape can do it, it must be easy. So sing along:
    Bush is worser than Saddam, Cheneys a serial liar,la la la. 9/11 was a conspiracy Bushitler did it,la la la. Kerry could have done it smarter,la la la. The joos cause all the worlds problems,la la la. Neo cons must rule the world, fa la la. Saddam wasnt all that bad, fa la la la la la. Edwards can unite the 2 americas la la la. Hillary the smartest woman ever, fa la la.
    hit_escape is smoking reefer, fa la la. He watches KO and hates america, la la la. Iraq's a quagmire lets retreat, la la la. Cause that will show the world we can be nice and sweet,la la la.
    They wont see it as a weakness, la la la. Like they did when Clinton fled Mogadishu, la la la. So lets just quit being imperialistic pigs, la la la. While the religion of pieces blows the world to hell, la la la.

    This is pretty much my first blog ever. It is not my intention to piss any of you off, though I will. All I ask is that you read this with an open mind, and bear with me...

    I feel i should note this in advance for those of you who will attack me with the usual...

    I am not anti-government. I am not an anti-semite. (my favorite grandfather was Jewish) I am not entirely anti-war. I consider myself an undying patriot to my country.

    Now a theoretical scenario:

    You are buying a car. Do you entirely trust the dealer? Do you take him at his word, or do you look at the whole picture? Warranties, insurance, mileage, independent reviews, maybe the Lemon-Aid book for any known quirks... etc

    For those of you who just walk in and buy whatever the dealer says is best for you, at the sticker price, you can keep reading if you want, but it's going to look like a different language from here on in...

    My point is Bill O'reilly is a little opinionated, and maybe even a little animated in expressing those opinions. You might even say that he has a tendency to cut people off if their opinions differ, or he'll just tell you to shut up - sometimes he'll even have your mic cut. Who cares it's good for ratings...

    Where does 'fair and balanced' fit into that equation?

    When did it become unpatriotic to question OUR government? What freakin' country is this?

    What I find deeply saddening is that the most watched news channel has somehow made it Ok to demonize people for asking honest questions. Instead of people shouting "I didn't get to hear the other side of the story" they're shouting "Candy Apple Red!? I'll take it!"

    It's not just O'reilly. Ask yourself this. Who owns or sponsors almost all of the mainstream networks? Huge corporations do. We know how honest huge corporations are.

    Example:

    1997 - Fox fires 2 reporters & squashed their story about the effects of Bovine Growth Hormone after Monsanto (BGH creator and huge Fox advertiser) threatened to sue.

    wait, wait, this gets really good

    Just before Monsanto bought Searle Corp in 1985 in a deal which Rumsfeld, then CEO of Searle, made millions, Rummy was busy getting aspartame pushed through the FDA who refused to approve it because it killed monkeys and left holes in the brains of the surviving ones. Once Rummy's buddy Reagan was elected a couple years later, the FDA's authority was suspended until they could replace the commissioner. Early 1981 they did so, and he approved aspartame a.k.a nutrasweet. Rumsfeld got back into politics and served under Reagan in various forms shortly after the aspartame approval, while still acting CEO of Searle Corp. At least there was no conflict of interest.

    Mainstream media is corrupt. O'reilly, Olbermann, all of it. We all know it too. Yet here I am blogging (posting? Whatever) on a website where people are actually promoting the fact that Bill O'reilly viewers are smarter� Than what?
    I could learn more about journalism and fair debate from the hair on a gnat's leg than from Bill O'reilly. Bill O'reilly is as neutral as a Canadian hockey fan. Bill O'reilly wouldn�t know what a logical conversation was if it f#*^$ him and called him the next day. O'reilly (now I just like saying O'reilly) is the Jerry Springer of News. Jerry Springer knows his show is junk food

    There are many legitimate, very worthwhile stories that are missing from the media. Stories that affect society in a big, positive way. Unfortunately, they affect the fat cats in a big, negative way, and the fat cats employ people like Bill O'reilly.

    It's easier to shrug this off, than to look at it for what it truly is. That is what the fat cats count on. It should scare you that 6 companies own more than 90% of the entire media market. movies, t.v, radio, publishers, newspaper, magazines, all of it.

    Even if all six of these companies are saints, is the positioning not precarious? Does it not at the very least leave room for manipulation? The same reason we like competition in the marketplace applies doubly to the media. Why aren't we bombarded with that everyday? If you're still with me, I shouldn't need to explain.

    I invite any and all of you to look up a few topics.

    1. fractional reserve banking
    2. walk into your local school and check out their curriculum and reading material
    3 2000 election process
    4. crowd mentality

    Anyone who makes up their mind before hearing the issue is a fool�
    Chris Rock (comedian)

    Regards

    Uh, Robin, sweetie, did you take a gander at the masthead of this website before you posted? See, the masthead is this ribbon looking thingie along the top border of the home web page, you see, and it has large white letters that spell out some words. The letters in this masthead spell O-L-B-E-R-M-A-N-N-W-A-T-C-H, which spells OlbermannWatch. What that means is, Robin, is that we talk about Keith Olbermann, the mentally ill last place Keith Olbermann.

    Now Robin I didn't count all the words in your lengthy rant about O'Reilly, Monsanto, Searle, Rummy, aspartame, fractional reserve banking, and God knows what else entered your brain while you were wearing your Kossack tin foil hat. I do know that other than a passing mention of Olbermann being a part of the corrupt media culture, you offered nothing of substance pertaining to the very reason this very reason this website exists. As one of my grad school profs would say when one of his students would wander off into a meandering irrelevant discourse- "that's academically interesting but not germane".

    "My point is Bill O'reilly is a little opinionated, and maybe even a little animated in expressing those opinions. You might even say that he has a tendency to cut people off if their opinions differ, or he'll just tell you to shut up - sometimes he'll even have your mic cut. Who cares it's good for ratings..." from Robin.
    In defense of Oreilly he cuts the mic of people who do prepared statements and speaches instead of answering questions...an interviewer asks questions(Oreilly)...then somebody with a position answers them....somebody who's clueless gives talking points(speaches). And someone whos clueless talks about car buying.LMAO.

    "Where does 'fair and balanced' fit into that equation?"

    "When did it become unpatriotic to question OUR government? What freakin' country is this?"

    I think relative to Keith Olbermann, B. Oreilly allows on guests who have a differing opinion. Where as Keith O does not.

    What country do you think has the best system? The most freedom? The highest standard of living?

    I love huge corporations and small ones. They do the little things like find vaccines, cure disease's, feed large quantities of people, keep us from walking or riding horsies for transporting ourselves. Find and bring oil to market, research and develop things, and so much more......Candy Apple Red or covered wagon? Hmmm.
    Red's fine. They also keep us from hunting dinner. Plowing fields by hand, sewing our own clothes and so much more......Hard top for me but thanks for asking.

    I love FAT CATS. Me thinks its a sign of prosperity. And a rising tide lifts all boats BIG and little. Where poor and poverty just means someone else is paying for your groceries and not being bought with the fruits of hard labor. And housing is a gift from the taxpayers who work for the big fat cats so the little cats can watch Jerry Springer all day. We have the coolest poverty in the world here in the US of A. God I love this country. Complete with Nikes and Pell Grants and time for relaxation and to many other perks to mention. I think? I'd rather be poor in US of A than King of Siam. Yes i am sure of it.

    I'd like competition in the Education system. Now we are talking wide spread corruption, monopoly's and fraud, abuse and thats just Kindergarten.

    Fractional reserve banking or Gut Wrenching, Mind Numbing Poverty(think Africa where they have no fractional banking).......HMMMMM. Decisions, decisions.

    Fractional reserve banking or Gut Wrenching, Mind Numbing Poverty(think Africa where they have no fractional banking).......HMMMMM. Decisions, decisions.

    Right I forgot the tin hat... As original as that is hank, you missed the keep an open mind part..
    that's cute with the spelling thing too.
    (how do i find my way around a keyboard)

    see i provided some hints on things that matter regardless of Olbermann or O'reilly, Democrat, Replican, Leftist, Rightist.... It may not be what you want to hear at this site, but think outside the site hank.

    As far as my rant goes, you got me, it was lengthy. If all you were looking for was the name Olbermann followed by how much he sucks than i guess it would apppear as meandering irrelevant discourse, as you so eloquently put it.

    Here's a tip for you hank in return for your incredibly helpful ones
    Get your school prof to take your hand and take a look at the subjects i offered. If you still can't find anything, let me know. I'll take both of you by the hand and show you how to think for yourselves...

    Regards

    I have no idea what country is best. None of them are safe.

    Democracy is beautiful. I live in Canada, but I watch the U.S closely, as it affects my country as well. What the U.s and Canada have is a veil of a democracy.

    Check out your own constituion. Check out the Patriot Act, and what it did to your rights...

    "Fractional reserve banking or Gut Wrenching, Mind Numbing Poverty(think Africa where they have no fractional banking).......HMMMMM. Decisions, decisions."

    Is that a threat?
    It's not about just abolishing fractional reserve banking it's about what goes in it's place that matters...

    Is it o.k to mention documentaries or websites worth viewing here?

    Do whatever Lord Xenu tells you about documentaries.
    A threat, ahh no. No threat just a choice, life is full of them. I dont have clue about fractional banking and don't take you serious. Sorry but true. Your post just makes me glad i am sane. And i hope you are OK. Do not hurt yourself, everything will be ok. Just hang in there. And remember fractional banking doesn't kill people, people kill people.

    "Check out your own constituion. Check out the Patriot Act, and what it did to your rights..."

    Check out your countries tax rates and see what its done to your rights. No economic freedom when governments confiscate your money and give it to others. And check out your healthcare system and tell me how free you are to choose your Dr's and services.

    Don't believe what the corrupt, corporate controlled media says about Patriot Act. It's just more of there monopolistic propoganda.WINK.
    The Patriot Act hasn't affected most Americans in the slightest. 99% couldn't begin to tell you anything about it past the name. What rights do you think we americans have lost? Do tell.

    Sorry, I'm not anti-rich, or anti-corporation either...

    "Check out your countries tax rates and see what its done to your rights. No economic freedom when governments confiscate your money and give it to others. And check out your healthcare system and tell me how free you are to choose your Dr's and services."

    uh, I'm on your side. Both Canada and U.S are in same boat. I think we both have two of the best countries in the world. Both of our countries have democracies that are incredibly corrupt, and are getting worse. They are both in need of reform.

    "I dont have clue about fractional banking and don't take you serious. Sorry but true. Your post just makes me glad i am sane."

    Look, I'm way beyond the name calling at this point. I know I'm in the wrong spot to be saying this stuff, and I will leave soon. So far though nobody has chosen to investigate those topics, instead you just go O'reilly on me - without having a clue as you put it. Who's insane?

    I mean that as a question - not an insult. Seriously re read what you wrote. THINK.

    I don't care if any of you take ME seriously, check it out for yourself - wherever you want. I purposely did not include websites because I am not selling anything, and I do not want to bias this anymore than it already is...

    "And remember fractional banking doesn't kill people, people kill people."
    lol


    Nice Talking points Robin.

    Too Bad I've heard them all before.

    Nice try. Thank you for playing and please arrive home safely.

    "The Patriot Act hasn't affected most Americans in the slightest. 99% couldn't begin to tell you anything about it past the name. What rights do you think we americans have lost? Do tell."

    The problem IS that most people don't know anything about it past the name. They don't even know the amount of controversy it created within the goevernment and courts.

    Off the top of my head (i urge you to check it out) the Patriot Act allows government to declare someone like me (for speaking out against it) an "enemy combantant". They can therefore throw me in Gitmo if they so desire, without a phone call, lawyer, for as long as they want.

    also

    "The NSL is a little known statute in the Patriot Act that permits law enforcement to obtain records of people not suspected of any wrongdoing and without a court order. As part of the NSL, those served with the document are gagged and prohibited from disclosing that they have even been served."

    I submit to you, that this indeed affects each and every one of us. Yet most of us no nothing about it past the name. Why? Because it's hard to sell. Not to mention the underhanded, unconstitutional methods they used to basically sneak it through.

    Look for YOURSELF. Don't trust me, Olbermann, O'reilly, Bush, Kerry, or anyone but yourself.

    If you look through history, you will notice that highly tyrannical dictatorships started out similarly...

    "Nice Talking points Robin.

    Too Bad I've heard them all before.

    Nice try. Thank you for playing and please arrive home safely."

    Did you do anything about it then either?

    First off let me say I love Canadian People they are great! Then theres Robin.

    Just Two points:

    Number 1: If you're great fantastic wonderful GOVERMENT run health care is the end all and be all. Why are there now people making a living as Health Care Brokers in Canada so Canadians can buy operations and health care in the States?

    Number 2: Why did Canadian goverment ban Fox News and then when forced to finally lift the ban so it could be shown on the cable systems up there. The TAXPAYER FUNDED Goverment run CBC does a hit piece on Fox News?

    Bounus round: Canadian Goverment thought Howard Stern was too vulgar yet. Turn on CBC-AM for their Radio Plays and hear the F-Word tossed about freely?

    Look The Canadian people just tossed the Loony Lib PM and voted in the conservative guy. Let's step back and see what happens.

    We still have a boatload of freedoms down here in the states. Hey why are we still the country that everybody wants to come to? Yes we do have people that are trying to destroy that. But I don't live in the tin foil world.

    You're Factor statements? Stop watching that one video clip on Media Matters or Thruth Out or wherever and watch some currant shows. Those clips are at least five years old at this point. Yeah! Yeah! shut-up. Cut his mic. I saw the CBC hit piece. Blah Blah Blah

    Pew Reserch comes out with a poll and a few Loons get their panties in a wad. Hey, it happens every time.

    Hey, we got Profs down here right now say they have proof that George Bush blew up the Towers but, they can't show us. All that means is you can have a boatload of education and still be an idiot. It's the balance of formal and street education that you must obtain.

    Good-Luck

    One Last thing. What's up with the Maple Leafs letting Lindros go?

    Robin

    I just looked at you're last post at 1:40.
    You Are a Loon go away!

    "Robin

    I just looked at you're last post at 1:40.
    You Are a Loon go away!"

    Posted by: puck at August 2, 2006 02:18 AM

    Time Zones, heard of em? 1:40 on the site clock = 11:40 to me.... What time did you post that at??

    BTW, did I say somewhere that Canada rocks and the States sucks? I thought I said something like we both have great countries, we just both have corrupt governments. Canada has a shitload of it's own problems. What I've been saying goes much much deeper than a Canada/U.s thing....

    Here look

    Canadians top tax bracket is 54% to make less than half the money it takes to get into Americas top tax bracket - disgusting.

    I know a dual citizen builder, who refuses to do much business in Canada because our capital gains are lucicrous - disgusting

    I know business owners in B.C where I live, who advise against trying to start a small business in this province because the red tape is blinding - disgusting

    Didn't vote for Harper.

    Feel better? I'm not picking on your country. I actually care that your rights are being taken away slowly but surely as are mine. For me, it does no good to just keep this a Canadian effort. The U.S bankers would never let Canada break away from our debt based banking system, therefore IMO, it should be a joint effort, or even an American one at first, with Canada following like we usually do...

    Again, nobody has yet offered anything worth debating.

    "Yes we do have people that are trying to destroy that. But I don't live in the tin foil world."

    So if I were quietly taking all the support columns out of your house, and you knew about it, you'd put on a non tinfoil hat and look the other way?

    You'd wait untill your house collapsed?

    Robin you need to get up from you're computer go outside and take a deep breath. I'm serious! I've seen Loons come and go but I'm worried about you.

    Either that or you're living with that dopey prof and he's standing behind you telling you what to say.

    By the way, down here in the states we are still allowed to own guns so if you started messing with my house. I would walk out with it and ask the question. YO! WAZ UP?????????

    1:40 is 11:40 to me. Oh great you live out by Vancouver.

    Hey our Hockey Team lost the Stanley Cup let's go out and tear up the town and break into stores and loot them!

    Hey! the world bank is having a meeting in Vancouver let's go burn down a Starbucks and a smash the windows at a Mc Donald's.

    Sounds good to me!

    Hey! the world bank is having a meeting in Vancouver let's go burn down a Starbucks and a smash the windows at a Mc Donald's.

    Sounds good to me!

    Robin

    Try this site www.wbai.org You will love it Loon supreme radio. No need to thank me just trying my best to push Loons over the edge.

    Puck,

    I appreciate your concern. I probably do spend my fair share of time in front of the computer.

    You and I aren't on the same page.

    See I can look at Fox news or CNN whatever, AND wbai loon radio, and take both of them with a grain of salt. Then if I want to know about something, I go and look in places that EXPLAIN things in favor of, and against without ratings to worry about. Then with that info, you can even look at, say the Patriot Act for itself, and see it and black and white from the horses mouth. Then my favorite part is mulling over what I THINK of that information, and taking a position on it - or not.

    While I'm sure my "filter" is a little biased, I have changed my opinion before, and I probably will again. Nothing is set in stone.

    Paranoid? No. Skeptical, curious, cynical? Yes.

    Even your forefathers who created your constitution and bill of rights, promoted those values. Go find the quotes puck. They literally created those two gems so that we could question OUR gevernment if "curious" things came about that made us "skeptical", or even "cynical" about OUR government.

    take a look around puck.

    Thanks to people like me (not even a citizen) and our skepticism (sp?) people like you can tote your guns freely without even knowing that people like me have done things to interfere with bills that will eventually take that right away from you too...

    One more time. Debate me logically on any subject you like puck. O'reilly me one more time, then let's get down to it, kay.

    Make it quick, my prof puppetmaster is out buying a fresh batch of custom high grade tin foil, i'll have to answer all by myself...

    Regards

    Puck,

    I appreciate your concern. I probably do spend my fair share of time in front of the computer.

    You and I aren't on the same page.

    See I can look at Fox news or CNN whatever, AND wbai loon radio, and take both of them with a grain of salt. Then if I want to know about something, I go and look in places that EXPLAIN things in favor of, and against without ratings to worry about. Then with that info, you can even look at, say the Patriot Act for itself, and see it and black and white from the horses mouth. Then my favorite part is mulling over what I THINK of that information, and taking a position on it - or not.

    While I'm sure my "filter" is a little biased, I have changed my opinion before, and I probably will again. Nothing is set in stone.

    Paranoid? No. Skeptical, curious, cynical? Yes.

    Even your forefathers who created your constitution and bill of rights, promoted those values. Go find the quotes puck. They literally created those two gems so that we could question OUR gevernment if "curious" things came about that made us "skeptical", or even "cynical" about OUR government.

    take a look around puck.

    Thanks to people like me (not even a citizen) and our skepticism (sp?) people like you can tote your guns freely without even knowing that people like me have done things to interfere with bills that will eventually take that right away from you too...

    One more time. Debate me logically on any subject you like puck. O'reilly me one more time, then let's get down to it, kay.

    Make it quick, my prof puppetmaster is out buying a fresh batch of custom high grade tin foil, i'll have to answer all by myself...

    Regards

    srry

    How is someone from "America Jr." going to take my 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms? Why would someone from "America Jr." even care about our constitution, especially as it relates to a citizen's right to firearms? How about worrying about your own immigration laws or your country's inability to defend itself?

    Here's a message to Canada from Col. Jessup:

    "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand opposed."

    If "America Junior" wants to start defending itself, please do, then we don't have hear the incessant yapping that comes from such a "progressive" culture.

    Ask for a fair debate, and get your mic cut. Where have I seen that before... I'll make this my last then - if I want...

    "How is someone from "America Jr." going to take my 2nd amendment right to keep and bear arms?"

    Why would i want to do that. You obviously aren't even aware at the amount of times freedom threatning ammendmants to the bill of rights have been thwarted by people who actually pay attention and ACT to make sure you CAN keep your guns...

    Maybe I haven't been clear. Canada's democracy is a mockery. U.S democracy is a mockery. Both are corrupted by the SAME people. If/when our democracies crumble, it will be simultaneous. The reason I care about your democracy is 1. you're human 2. Our democracies are "linked"

    Why do you care about Iraq's democracy? Or Israel's, or Afghanistan's, or Lebanon's?

    I have a quote for you crash

    I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way...

    Regards

    A caption for the above picture......Bush conquering the world,little by little.

    scooter

    Robin how many lives have been lost in the nutra-sweet holocaust? Details if you can please, this is getting fascinating. Maybe the animal rights news releases about the monkeys too?

    Robin how many lives have been lost in the nutra-sweet holocaust? Details if you can please, this is getting fascinating. Maybe the animal rights news releases about the monkeys too?

    I could get into details, but I have the feeling they wouldn't be welcome - plus it would be very long.

    i typed "aspartame monkeys" into my search engine
    and the first in line was this. Check the link at the bottom for a list of 90 other studies...
    this is just one link.

    http://www.dldewey.com/columns/asparstu.htm

    A documentary you might find interesting is called Sweet Misery. I'm not condoning copyright infringement, but I'm told it's easy to find and download, if inclined.

    One more thing. There is indeed a ton of crap out there in (sigh) tin foil land, if you must. Same for mainstream media. There is also a ton of legitimate sources. Better than the seemingly all knowing News. Check the governments own declassified documents even. Example "Why was Lyman Lemnitzer fired by Kennedy?"

    It's there, and it's better than any 'reality t.v' - it's reality.

    Peace out

    Damn forgot

    A lot of these documentaries we never hear about are made by people who promote copying their video and giving them to anyone who wants one...

    Damn forgot

    A lot of these documentaries we never hear about are made by people who promote copying their video and giving them to anyone who wants one...

    Was your little steaming hors d'oeuvre with a commemorative flag tasty?

    Shit, the other source of protein for left.

    Shit, the other source of protein for the left.

    A day in the life of a 30 year old Olbermann fan . . .

    Wake up at noon

    Eat the last bowl of cereal and milk leaving parents with none, do not replace

    grab dirty clothes from floor, leave room a mess

    surf lefty net, get HUGE idea

    grab dad's camera

    run around town looking for shit while taking pictures, place novelty Bush flag in piles, do not clean between uses and store in dirty jean pocket

    search harder for shit over the course of the day than for a job

    Run home, post gross photos all over internet, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

    Is it just me, or is the shit pile above staged? The pile is too pristine and well-placed! I call for an INQUIRY!

    The best part of all of this is some Olbyloon ran around purposely handling shit all day. And not just dog shit -- horse shit and (undoubtedly) his own / human shit -- all for disgusting photos that produce eye-rolls from the sane and bizarre convulsions from crazy leftists. Seems these Olbermanniacs can't help torturing themselves.

    Imagine the loon who skittered around all day(s) acquiring these profound shit pictures. Can you see the eager Olbyite searching for shit, picking the shit up, organizing it, placing a novelty flag in it, then setting the camera on the same shitty ground, perhaps even laying on the ground to focus the camera while the stink of shit permeates the air? Can you see the horrified passers-by?

    These photos do have an effect on me. They make me worry that my children live in the same world with someone so crazy as to seek, touch and photograph shit.

    so, let me guess ... you morons probably think the following is a good idea ...

    Inside the administration, neoconservatives on Vice President Dick Cheney's national security staff and Elliott Abrams, the neoconservative senior director for the Near East on the National Security Council, are prime movers behind sharing NSA intelligence with Israel, and they have discussed Syrian and Iranian supply activities as a potential pretext for Israeli bombing of both countries, the source privy to conversations about the program says. (Intelligence, including that gathered by the NSA, has been provided to Israel in the past for various purposes.) The neoconservatives are described as enthusiastic about the possibility of using NSA intelligence as a lever to widen the conflict between Israel and Hezbollah and Israel and Hamas into a four-front war.

    despite abizade's testimony yesterday ...

    The top U.S. military commander in the Middle East told Congress on Thursday that "Iraq could move toward civil war" if the raging sectarian violence in Baghdad is not stopped. "I believe that the sectarian violence is probably as bad as I have seen it," Gen. John Abizaid, the commander of U.S. Central Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee. He said the top priority in the Iraq war is to secure the capital, where factional violence has surged in recent weeks despite efforts by the new Iraqi government to stop the fighting.

    because you think things are going better in iraq than is reported ... and because if we don't fight 'em over there we'll have to fight 'em over here ... and that the military can provide a political solution ... and that you can kill and/or occupy the terrorists sufficiently ... blah, blah, blah ... and all the other administration bullshit you believe, right?

    Robin/Anon/whoever,

    Why do I care about democracies in Afghanistan, Iraq, Israel? Well, because democracies don't attack other democracies.

    As far as this gem of logic:
    "You obviously aren't even aware at the amount of times freedom threatning ammendmants to the bill of rights have been thwarted by people who actually pay attention and ACT to make sure you CAN keep your guns..."

    Yeah, your right. Living in the United States of America all my life, attaining a degree in government from a prestigious university, and then a law degree from an even more prestigious university would certainly make me less "aware" than someone from the "Great White North". I assure you I know nothing about the Canadian system of government, nor do I want to know anything about it. If our two democracies are so bad, I am sure with a Canadian passport you would be welcome anywhere else in the world.

    One other thing. Who the hell quotes back the same quote made previously by the opposing debator? I assume you think you had some "ah ha" moment, that the recycling of a quote was warranted minus the part about holding a weapon. Maybe it was your revalation of "linked" democracies that lead you to this point to nowhere and nothing. Whatever it is I am sure you'll see this whole conversation as further persecution of you and those who think like you, and this will just continue your self-delusional road to martyrdom.

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    "Yeah, your right. Living in the United States of America all my life, attaining a degree in government from a prestigious university, and then a law degree from an even more prestigious university would certainly make me less "aware" than someone from the "Great White North""

    You're not one of those Americans are you? Where you think my sled dogs are out in the teepee, next to my snowshoes. Any Canadians you want me to say hi to?

    If i lived in a hole in the ground and you had your above "prestigious" credentials, We can still both read.

    Govenrment AND Law? Does anyone believe a word you say wheh you talk?

    Remember how I mentioned way back in my first post for anyone of you to check out the cirriculum and reading material in your local school?

    Why don't you take a look at how huge corporations have worked their way into our education system. They would be proud to read your last post - you're thinking just like they told you to.

    You're not going to like this, but as educated as you think you are, you're just programmed.

    How many studies have i seen where the high school drop outs (i went to college) employ the "A" students from prestigious universities.

    If you are indeed gov/lawyer educated, YOU should find it very simple to look into those topics i mentioned.

    It's way easier to sit in front of the tube, ocassionally wiping the drool from our bottom lips, while someone else tells us what's going on in the world. We shake our heads at how every other country in the world is getting propogandized out the wahoo, but we aren't, right?

    I'm willing to bet EVERY single one of you knows there's corruption in our government. But you leave it at that.

    If i'm delusional for delving further than what the news tells me, so be it. What does that make someone who reguritates information they only know as deeply as the news tells them?

    Turning your quote back on you, was just easier than trying to make up my own to say the same thing. Lazy, I am.

    Here's something to ponder Crash.

    Assume I am completely certifiable. Right the fuck out there. NUTS! Also assume I am a pathological liar, and a Taliban member.

    If i then told you the sky was blue, does who I am matter?

    Regards

    Shia's and Sunni's killing each other daily, Averaging 100+ dead every day, for months.

    "Sectarian Violence" is a buzz word meaning Civil War.

    buzz word is a buzz word

    Ted Turner (CNN) went public with his bipolar disorder.

    Apparently crazy people can do alright for themselves...

    Re:
    How many studies have i seen where the high school drop outs (i went to college) employ the "A" students from prestigious universities.

    Misquote. Not all highschool dropouts. Studies included "C" students as well...

    apologies

    Robin

    Of course there's corruption in the goverment. It's called New Jersey!

    I don't think anything about you being the type of Canadian you talk about. But you didn't say if you live in a trailer with a big huge giant dish so you can get Hockey Night In Canada! And all that other great fair and balanced reporting on CBC..........eh?

    Comon' Robin fess up what are you're favorite Kook sites. Hey did you like www.wbai.org? I was in the city last night and tuned it on for a while.....for a laugh of course!!!!!

    That sittin in front of the tv propoganda stuff you going off about? let me ask you this question. So I go on sites like w.b.a.i.,truth out,fox news, rush. So how in you're wonderous all knowing mind am I programmed. And I'm sure many people on this site balance their news out in one form or another where as you Kooks pretty much keep trying to come at it from one side no balance and we are supposed to swallow that? Didn't work before you got here. Won't work after you're gone!

    Check out the schools??? How out of it are you? Mind telling me where books like "heather has two Mommies" are a plant of big corporations? Sex Education being taught to 2nd graders? Mind tying that one to the Pfizer Corp. Sorry to go off folks but I can't pass this one up. In 04' I was in the Cleveland area. Where John Kerry was that day talking about no jobs in Ohio(yeah right). So I saw this place, a machine shop, big sign! $12.00 an hour to start plus bennies. I asked one of the workers. "Aren't people applying here? They said yes but they can't hire them because the schools aren't teaching basic math and other basic skills so they can't hire them. So tell me, how is Exxon/Mobil tied into that one?

    Look why don't you and that live in kook prof. boyfriend of your's go downtown and toss a brick through a Starbucks or something. You both need to get out of house!

    Ya know Robin deep down I think you're a decent person. Intelligent too. But damm you need some frikin' balance!

    Wait! I just read that post. YOU KEPT MY FREEDOM TO OWN A GUN?

    Now that I picked myself off the floor. I must know three sites you visit to get your information, just three. Common' you're proud of stuff like this? You just can't be serious! You're joking! You're treading into Jill Perry land you know that!

    But wait! And I'm really sorry to say this, I really didn't want to I thought there might be some hope. But! while you were keeping my right to own and bare arms here in the states! YOU LOST YOUR'S UP THERE!!!! How did you miss that one Einstein???????

    Robin, How long have you been living under the high tension wires?

    Is Art Bell your Hero too?

    Robin while i find you completely Koo-Koo,so what. And about education cirrucilum again whats your point? I see where your trying to go with it all.....corporations suck, governments are corrupt,etc.......not exactly a news flash,again i say so what? You know more than everybody else, your better informed,so what? Hows that helping you out? Or me? What do you recommend to remedy this? Your just another over educated blow hard that see's problems real or imagined ,names them and offers no solutions. So if all your points were correct, so what? Answer me that. Banking creates rich people. Does that bother you? Corporations influence schools? Not sure there but you say so.OK. They pay for most of it anyway,so let them have a say. They are financing schools with tax money on profits and payroll tax's of everyone who works for them. Which would you prefer our flawed system, or gut wrenching poverty? There's no UTOPIA so no third choice. Thats just reality. Face it. See our system for all its flaws beats the hell out of the alternative. Some alternatives: Bankrupt big oil with lawsuits,over regulate them, take the profit out of it. What would you get? Sore feet or a sore ass. From walking around or riding a horse. 2 choices because theres no UTOPIA.Face it. Again Big Pharmacutical's: Lawsuits till bankrupt, over regulate, over tax, bitch moan about profits and greed. In the end what would you get? Less life saving drug Research and development.Lowered life expectancy. Pain. Suffering. That would be a setback. Is that what they mean when the Liberals try to hide behind being Progressive? They mean setbacks. Again Walmart: Monopoly, evil blah blah. Do them in by restricting where they build, force a bunch of taxes hidden as regulations. Whats the net outcome? Less jobs in communities? Higher prices at store that aren't run as well. Hurt consumers. Corrupt government: The alternative to our (US) current political system? Communism? Nope huge failure. Socialism ? Its braking Europe and Canada as we speak. No for all its faults Democracy/Representative Republic/ Capitolism is light years ahead of the rest.
    So Robin to whatever points you make and whatever you think you know that is escaping everyone else. So what. Because there is no UTOPIA. None. Doesn't exist. And trying to fix a system flawed as it is, just might mean a lower standard of living, harsher conditions, shorter life expectancy. Not worth the risk. To much downside. Don't like big banking---put it under a matress or bury it. Worried about huge corporations? Leave them be. With all there faults the alternative is to painful to comprehend....plowing fields for grain,with horses, shooting at game to have meat, long nights in the dark because YOU wouldnt want a
    power company to profit, no cars because of evil car companys, wouldnt help to have them because we cant allow big oil to make $$$ so they shut down..and on and on. So now nobody has a job and we go backward to barter system and log cabins, hand built with blisters and all. So go off in the wilderness and bail but leave my im-perfect system be. Even with record oil profits I say let the oil flow, Walmart doesnt pat 100 % of employee healthcare--boo hoo. Leave them alone. Pharmacutical companies make huge profits--Super hope they develop more life sustaining medicines. Hope the researchers get rich beyond my wildest dreams. And schools being influenced by corporations?? I dont know. I think its more like they are influenced by the Industrial Teachers Complex and would be better served to have the influence of capitolism vs the current quasi commie NEA. But thats my opinion. More of the same if its as good as the first 40 something..........

    this is the dumbest blog I have ever come across.

    It's a long one, but my last one. (for real this time)

    Corporations don't suck. The crooked bastards who've infiltrated corporations suck.

    "Democracy/Representative Republic/ Capitolism" doesn't suck. The crooked bastards who... you get my point...

    I am not any more informed than you people. I am a hell of a lot more curious though. I am certainly not more/less intelligent. Uhg, i hate political correctness as much as I hate to agree with Lou Dobbs, but I honestly believe we are just "differently" informed. I'm not even that educated, truth be told. I'm as average as average joe's get. Six months ago I thought exactly the same way you do. It was a rough couple of weeks at the start. No joke. I know what most of you think of me - I used to think it too. You can imagine what my friends and family thought/think.
    I've heard it all from people way more important to me than you folks.

    I almost wish i didn't know at this point. Not because of the amount of corruption (and it goes deeeeep) but because of people's reaction when you tell them.

    Hitler is quoted as saying (i'm going to have to paraphrase) The bigger the lie, the less likely the people won't believe it.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_building
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstag_fire

    Take it for what it's worth.

    As far as a solution goes, I do have ideas. I also have an instant credibility issue with most. The solution is simple, it's getting people to take this seriously, and do something about it that's proving hardest. Nobody (myself included) likes coming to the realization that things are way more fucked up than just "corporations suck".

    Here I go with fractional reserve banking again...
    I am no economist, or accountant so some of the jargon goes over my head when it comes down to the actual numbers game.

    In a nutshell The Federal Reserve is not Federal. It is an easily manipulated private - for profit - bank that is above the law of the government. They word it a little nicer on their web page, but that is what it boils down to.

    Fractional Reserve Banking literally serves no other purpose than to concentrate vast amounts of money and power into the hands of few. It is literally designed to transfer entire nations wealth into their hands. Nothing wrong with a system that does great things, and the banks get rich in the process. Except there is nothing else the system does besides that.
    No wait it does to. It dooms the economy from the get go. Their wealth/our debt is all based on money that doesn't even exist! As long as this system is in place, we can reform the hell out of everything else and it wouldn't change a thing.

    Check out Nathan Rothschild, and his friends. Back in those days they spoke a little more freely about their intentions. There is nothing to prove that the Rothschilds don't have a major interest in world banking - including the U.S. and Canada - to this day.

    There have been succesful non fractional based systems including the tally stick system which lasted some 700+ years. A peice of friggin wood. Sounds ridiculous until you discover the British Empire was mostly built under that system.

    I wish I could explain it better. Even if I could, you should check out the moneymasters link below. They offer an actual monetary reform act. Documentary is harder to find on the net, and this one is copyright protected. (you can buy one at their site) I do not work for them, or even know them. They say the documentary is fast paced - it's not, and it's 3 hours. It is incredibly well documented and... mind blowing really. Makes it viewable with intermissions. I absolutely recommend anyone see it. Anyone who thinks they can just shrug off the mess YOU KNOW we are in as blah blah corporations suck, blah blah what's a canadian going to tell me about my country, blah blah, kookoo for cocoa puffs... should see it. Puck, if you want a real laugh, you should check it out.

    I don't really have favorite websites, per se. All of them are mostly crap, with a few good pieces tucked away somewhere in there. I like information from direct sources, such as official government sites, documents, transcripts, or other similar articles that represent conclusive "evidence".
    This'll sound korny (least of my worries, right)
    You end up just meandering around wherever the truth takes you, however ugly it may be.

    I've been to tin foil hat land. I didn't wear one, but i poked around. They all have the same problem too. All talk, no action. Too busy wondering this, or that. They are right about one thing - the corruption. They might not be my favorite sites, but they are useful at times.

    http://english.aljazeera.net/HomePage
    http://www.ifamericansknew.org/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
    http://www.defenselink.mil/
    http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/index.html
    http://www.themoneymasters.com/
    http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/newscorp-timeline.asp
    http://www.rinf.com/
    http://www.federalreserve.gov/
    http://www.lib.lsu.edu/gov/fedgov.html

    I do follow the news as well. CNN, BBC, CTV mostly. (out of convenience) I'd watch FOX too, if i didn't have to pay extra for it. BBC World or FOX. I went with BBC, which is the best of them (IMO)- and still owned by the public (pretty sure). They are all slanted, and lie through their teeth regularly. follow up folks. For all you know I could be lying through my teeth.

    So, IMO, Monetary Reform of any kind that abolishes FRB is KEY. It won't solve everything, but it will certainly make it easier to deal with the rest. It's been done before. So well in fact once, that the U.S exploded westward in a sea of money not based on debt. Meanwhile, the bankers spent 70 or so years recovering...

    Again my apologies for the length. Not to hear myself talk. (is that all i'm hearing by now?) Just a lot to say. Thanks for not throwing anything. It's been fun.

    It's 2:30 a.m my time, puck. Crazy. Middle of the evening on my current schedule.

    Regards

    I finally read Robin's series of meandering rants, and have some questions.

    One is Wtf would Canadian citizens be doing preventing the US Congress from passing a proposed amendment repealing the 2nd? (Plus the fact the states would have to ratify which would never happen.) First off, it wouldn't have even been an issue the last 12 years since the GOP took power. So when did this happen, Robin.

    Why do you keep making statements about "our government"..."questioning our government". It's not OUR government, Robin, if you live in Canada and aren't a US citizen. Unless you think the "I'm neutral, I'm Canadian, I'm just telling you all the things wrong with your country because I care about protecting your rights" stuff adds credibility to your ravings.

    Why do you have to include a "cut off my mic" or "go ahead and O'Reilly me" line in every post. Jesus, you've written more words on this this thread than the Unibomber's Manifesto. Who the hell has "cut off your mic?" You lose a lot of leverage when you keep repeating the same tired talking points over and over.

    Aljazerra? ALJAZERRA?????? There you go Scott, Do we need to go any further except to say.

    Thank-you for playing Robin you've been a wonderful guest and we mean that. Please arrive home safetly.

    And really. AND WE MEAN REALLY! Take care of you're self.

    We would like to give you a parting gift. Feel free to pick one of the following: "Spin Stops Here Doormatt" , "Factor Coffee Mug" or, Maybe you're live in pinhead prof. boyfriend likes to hit the links in between Wal-Mart protests. For him how about some. "NO SPIN GOLFBALLS". Again Robin nice to have you on the show, say goodbye to Robin crew.

    What do you think gos through Robin's mind when she gos to a bank to use her ATM card and she looks up and sees that camera looking at her?

    Robin I have a site for you. www.ultralounge.com

    You and you're live-in pinhead prof. boyfriend can't dance the Tin Foil Mambo!

    What do you think gos through Robin's mind when she gos to a bank to use her ATM card and she looks up and sees that camera looking at her?


    Probably thank god I'm not as ugly or stupid as puck.

    Aljazerra? ALJAZERRA??????


    Attack the source not the information, typical.

    Aljazerra? ALJAZERRA??????


    Attack the source not the information, typical.

    Ass

    I don't have to add anything. Once again thats why you are known as assnonymous.

    By the way folks just read this in Hondo's Picks in the New York Post today......and I quote.

    "Public Service Announcement: Al Frankin's Air America radio network is moving from WLIB to WWRL. That's 1600 on the dial for the four of you who still listen to that drivel."

    Priceless Hondo....Priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Aww, did I hurt your feelings? poor wittle baby.

    assnononymous? That is the best you can do? I see the class in quick and witty retorts you are taking is paying off there Fuck... I mean Puck.

    Robin the long and short of it is this....We trade paper and ink (money $$$) for goods and services.....we get that inked paper with work or inheritance, welfare, lawsuits, etc......say what you want, and distrust who you must, but in the end...I dont care who gets rich and whos corrupt in the Financials. Its a house of cards at best. That being said I wouldnt change it for the way things were during the barter age. And all because of standard of living. I mean they can't rip me off to bad as long as i can trade paper and ink for real things like food and shelter. So the corrupt have bigger homes and yachts, other luxuries. SO WHAT. Most in the US live so well we wouldnt change a thing. So you'll have to peddle your misery some where else. But best of luck.

    Assnonymous this site was set up to question sources. Maybe you hadn't noticed. But AL Jizzera isn't just a source. Its an anti -western civilization based Islamic cheerleading rag. Do you understand that? Information from them is not impartial and if you say it is you have less credibilty than, than.....we'll then Al Jizzera.

    Assnonymous this site was set up to question sources. Maybe you hadn't noticed. But AL Jizzera isn't just a source. Its an anti -western civilization based Islamic cheerleading rag. Do you understand that?

    Understand what their fuck? If you are going to make a claim like that you should present a little evidence. Also I notice you ignored the state dept on the list of her many sources. Do you understand that? probably not.

    that is the federal reserve.

    f**k... lol Ass thats so funny,witty, original,what class! why aren't you doing standup. You're killing me lol. Do you write you're own material. Man you must stay up all night. Poor little white baby......oh God thats too much! Mo Rocca better watch out The Ass is Comming LOL! Really you should write for Olby's show. Man stuff like that will send him right to the top!

    wittle....better correct myself, damm I don't want be on the receiving end of the rath of ass!

    **k... lol Ass thats so funny,witty, original,
    what class!


    HAHAHAH Well that was my point there stupid. Assnonymous? i love your third grade humor so clever.

    I do.

    You're killing me lol. Do you write you're own material. Man you must stay up all night. Poor little white baby......oh God thats too much! Mo Rocca better watch out The Ass is Comming LOL!

    The ass is comming? HAHHAHA your stupidity is amizing. Look stop wasting time and get back to work their toilets that need cleaned.


    Really you should write for Olby's show.

    I just wish I came up assnonymous. Ahh well, when you talk to someone from the special olympics what do you expect. eh Fuck? hahaha.

    I ignore the State Dept most of the time. Anyone with any sense does. All the cool kids are ignoring them like me, Rummy, Bush, Cheney etc.

    HHAHA I just realized you are Pat. there are no two peole this stupid in the world. Ahh well Say there puck don't you think you should get around to reading a midsummer's night dream since you are naming yourself after it? Probably hard to find time to read in your toilet cleaning job.

    Puck you got him ranting un-controlably.
    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED !!!!!!!!!!

    HHAHA I just realized you are Pat. there are no two peole this stupid in the world. Ahh well Say there puck don't you think you should get around to reading a midsummer's night dream since you are naming yourself after it? Probably hard to find time to read in your toilet cleaning job.

    Hey folks did it ever make you think the reason that Robin and her alter-ego ass spew this garbage is because they have crappy jobs at the bank?

    ignore the State Dept most of the time. Anyone with any sense does. All the cool kids are ignoring them like me, Rummy, Bush, Cheney etc.

    that is because you are against democracy

    Nope i make six figures copywriting. One of the reasons I have so much free time to play with you wittle baby fuck.

    Yes your the 1 based in reality. Bush will be taking over the country in 2009 renaming himself Supremo--Nazi-O--El Presidento. You poor tool.

    i think PUCk is Getting so Angry. So angry. he is gonna Scream! " I - CAN'T - TAKE THESE - LIBERALSS" I PUCK AM - A SMART GUY - STOP SAYING I"M STUPID I"M SMART. ( Sobs hysterically.) "I'm smart whay doesn't anyone beleive me. i'm puck it's from shakespeare. See I can pick a literate name. I can do it. Please beleive I will read it I promise. I can do that. I can do that. I'm smart. someone tell me I'm smart"


    sorry puck you are a moron. it's ok the world needs ditch diggers too.

    Yes all those un-elected useless lifetime diplomat, do nothing State Dept. employees. Make this country a stronger Democracy. Your great in a debate. If foolishness is your goal, that is.

    It is funny how esasy it is to bait the in-bred wing of the Republican party. Eh there Fuck?

    Yes all those un-elected useless lifetime diplomat, do nothing State Dept. employees. Make this country a stronger Democracy. Your great in a debate.

    So are you enjoyig the civil war in iraq and making Iran stronger?

    just when you thought puck couldn't get any dumber he does.

    I Am not dumb! someone defend me! Someone say it anyone! tell me I am not dumb! someone please.

    Hey puck Anon is an admitted out of work "over-qualified" liberal shit bum. How else do you think he has all day to play leftist? Hey anon...get a haircut and get a real job, na na.
    Cause the world needs someone to pick the cabbage same as it needs business men/women.

    Hey puck Anon is an admitted out of work "over-qualified" liberal shit bum. How else do you think he has all day to play leftist? Hey anon...get a haircut and get a real job, na na.
    Cause the world needs someone to pick the cabbage same as it needs business men/women.

    FUCK! I thought you quit. Good to have you back you little devil. Nope sorry tosay make an ass load of moeny doing what i love and get a lot of free time to do it. You I am sure are a retired garbage man or something.

    Oh and I don't have to get a haircut. when you are succesful people let you do what you want.

    No i hate Sunni's killing Shias and vice versa.WINK,WINK,NOD. Because thats never happened before. LOL. Yes Iran is very tough. I'll bet we could make them hide in caves in about......oh a day. But keep routing for the bad guys. Puck your not dumb. Hey puck can we question his patriotism now?

    Yes i am tired of your garbage. Thanks for asking.

    We'll Rush Limbaugh's over so its nap time. And Robin/Anon beware of the BANKERS.......bwahaaha.

    But keep routing for the bad guys

    I am not "routing" for the bad guys I'm not even rooting for Bush. I think he should be in jail.

    "Yes i am tired of your garbage. Thanks for asking"

    Well then you shoouldn't have went and picked a career in waste disposal and you wouldn't have to pick up my garbage.

    "We'll Rush Limbaugh's over so its nap time"

    Don't you mean breaks over, time to get back to garbage pickup?

    Damm I made a comment about ass having a crappy job at the bank and look what happened. Damm even had to use my name once. THE ASS ATTACKS!

    Robin at this time I'd like to say that I think you're a little looney, But this ass dude? WOW he is fallin' off the table looney left.

    Ass you need to put down that bottle of Thunderbird and get over to the tank. Before you do something to hurt you're self..........Oh thats right! You're an ass with a crappy job at the bank. Really, how much damage could you do?

    Yes ass Rush is over, now comes Shawn Hannity and then THE BOOGEYMAN HIMSELF "THE SAVAGE NATION"

    But really ass, I'm here to help. www.wbai.org
    You need to be with likemined people like you.
    You'll feel better and hey maybe you'll stop being an.......ass.

    Puck it is heartwarming to know know that we can always count on idiots like you.

    Do you think ass stomps his feet and holds his breath when he doesn't get his way?

    Memo to Ass: You're not holding you're breath long enough.

    You know what the best part of this would be? If ass was really Keith incog. Well Keith does hide under desks and in bathtubs soooooooo it's not really that much of a reach. Keith is that you?

    Ass? hahahaa I have to say your wit man. Fantastic. Calling someone ass. That's good. never have I seen such a retort. Ass. it just keeps getting funnier. anyway. Say can you ask you a question about your trash route?

    HAHAHA I guess puck's break is over. Stop slacking on the job or I am going to have to report you and then where will you go? Walmart I suppose.

    Common' ass (Keith) you're just not holding you're breath long enough just hold it until you pass out. Don't worry whats been inside you're head has been dead for a long time.

    Hey Anon, Come on. Quit picking on the retarded guy.

    Yeah keith would waste time with you.

    Man, awful bitter even for a garbage man.

    Keith that is you isn't it? Is Cindy one of you're groupie fans under the desk with you?

    Like it says at the top. MSNBC viewers ARE THE DUMBEST!!!!!

    And Keith and groupie Cindy just keep proving my point.

    Ah, Cindy don't bring you head up to fast you might bang it on the desk.

    I have to go now so you girls play nice till I get back okay.

    yes, it is I don't you wish you a million dollar contract and groupies instead of living your life as a garbage man? I have to say as a newtowrk newsman it is great fun to talk to the little people such as yourself.

    Keith

    whats a newtowrk?