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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    July 29, 2006
    Windmills or Bandwagon?: Virginia Newspaper Slams Olbermann's Nazi Salute

    The Virginian-Pilot has published an editorial condemning Olbermann for the use of Nazi imagery to promote his floundering television show.

    Here's the money quote:

    Keith Olbermann , take note. Olbermann, the MSNBC host, has a running feud with Fox News' Bill O'Reilly . It's pretty funny. The routine goes like this: O'Reilly says something outrageous, Olbermann lampoons him, then O'Reilly overreacts. It never fails, and O'Reilly never learns. Recently, Olbermann appeared at a meeting of the Television Critics Association. He whipped out a Bill O'Reilly mask and gave a Nazi salute. Not funny.

    Here's the rule of thumb: Whenever a political debate gets to the point where someone invokes Nazis or Hitler, it's time to stop. There is no connection between Hitler and ... well, pretty much anything or anyone else. Maybe Pol Pot. Maybe Serbia. Maybe Sudan. But that's about it. But not Bill O'Reilly.


    They allow moderated comments on their web site so I posted one. Hopefully the will print it...

    =======================

    Excellent editorial but...

    The Olbermann Nazi Salute was far worse than simply "not funny". As noted in the Miami Herald the Nazi Salute was pre-planned as part of NBC's promotional strategy for their cable news channel. Worse, the supposed basis for the stunt - that Bill O'reilly has defended Nazis is knowingly false and malicious.

    That GE executives would permit NBC to stoop to using Nazi imagery to boost ratings at their floundering cable news channel is a disgrace.

    =======================

    Of course, sharp-eyed readers will note how the editorial depicts the "feud" from Olbermann's point of view:

    O'Reilly says something outrageous, Olbermann lampoons him, then O'Reilly overreacts. It never fails, and O'Reilly never learns.

    At the Pilot, O'Reilly is Charlie Brown to Olbermann's Lucy. O'Reilly says "outrageous" things then "overreacts" and "never learns". Keith "lampoons". Somehow they missed the part where Olbermann makes things up, bases charges on erroneous transcripts lifted from blogs, touts propaganda from Media Matters for America, takes things out of context or, in the most recent case, flat out lies. The fail to note that Olbermann routinely slanders his opponents, especially O'Reilly. However, it does say something when even an MSM paper like the Virginia-Pilot takes issue with Olbermann's Nazi Salute. Too bad it's for the wrong reason - that it was "not funny".

    The Olbershphere weighs in...

    The Cable Game - mainstream America, in the form of the Virginian-Pilot op/ed page, is revolted too...

    ICN - Still more Nazi salute stuff...


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    In the beginning of Keith's slanderous and libelous assault on O'Reilly BO might have mention Olberdone by name a few times.
    KO has made King of Cable News Bill O'Reilly Worst person in the Woooorrrrrld 100 times alone not to mention the in the flow of the show BO.. Bullshit.
    How is that in anyway a tit for tat squabble?

    He hasn't named him worst person in the world 100 times.

    Olbermaniacal has attacked Bill O'Reilly, the #1 cable news show anchor on the #1 cable news network, in one degree or another, 100 times. Let's not split hairs, eh N.F.?

    And KfK has "attacked" me on this site around 50 times. Your point is?

    You poor innocent babe, Nonfactor! You never instigate (except just now).

    Point is, O'Reilly wants nothing to do with Krazy Keith. What we have here is the lamestream media encouraging a crazed stalker. It is a new low.

    lmao
    man so many kissin fox's news ass
    and just making people like me laugh my ass off
    you all seem to rant and rant

    about Bill O'Reilly vs Keith
    all im noticing is people going on and on about these ratings like who gives a flyin fuk
    i dont

    i like how keith actualty brings entertainment into news unlike bill who just rants and rants and cant debate the people who disagree with him
    guess everyone has been drinkin the kool aid
    and bills just been givin blowjobs to those who listen 2 him

    hell he defends nazis haha
    people dissin keith i guess
    love Nazis lmao
    respond to this or even delet it
    just makes you a nazi lover

    "entertainment to the news" = Personal attacks, void of facts
    Apparently Jason is a product of Americas Liberal Madrasshs.

    Ever notice Loons can't rhyme?

    Stop playing the part of the martyr or the poor persecuted liberal. It's quite unbecoming. Especially because you seem intent on defending the indefensible, Keith Olbermann.

    You took Nick to task for saying KO named BO worst person in the world 100 times when he was actually thinking of the total number of attacks made on O'Reilly by the no talent wonder boy of the left. That was my point.

    I took him to task because I corrected him? Okay...

    I'm not "playing the part of the martyr" I'm asking you what your point is.

    Ever notice Loons can't rhyme


    Liberals are much better at these things.

    O'Reilly is CONSTANTLY invoking Nazism to critique his foes, so by the logic of the editorial, O'Lielly should have packed up his falafels and quit years ago. Besides if O'Spotty hadn't slandered U.S. troops by repeatedly saying they committed the atrocities that were actually the doings of Nazis none of this would have come up. Add the fact that Olbermann claims that he was waving at a friend and you got a whole bunch of Right Wing B.S.. (BTW, the Nazis were Right Wingers too)

    Keith Olbermann shouldn't play the Nazi card. He's one himself, he supports the Nazis of our time: Iran, Hezzbollah, Hams and Al-Qaeda.
    Olbermann is a Nazi!

    Nazis were Socialist protectionists. Sorta like a Democrat Union Thug with enough guts to actually fight. So they were Leftists but with guts. I can see your confusion on the issue though and didnt mind straightening you out.

    Speaking of unions. Is Hollyweird still making most movies overseas still? You know to avoid union labor costs like teamsters, electricians,SAG and avoid the wannabe hanger-ons that like to be extras. Anyone know much on the subject?

    Jason mentions his post being deleted. Talk about leftist projection. To much KOS and MSNBC for you Che-son. Your becoming paranoid. Only leftists censor silly rabbit.

    Does Bill O'Reilly's mom run this website? Awww... did some nasty man make fun of Billsy-Willsie? Wah!

    Get a job, loser. KO is about ten times smarter than Bill is on a bad day.

    The ratings are low for his station
    His show on the brink of cessation
    The big story's abroad
    Where's the journalist-fraud?
    On Leno, then it's time for vacation

    I can see why you didn't want to clarify to Nick that Olbermann had attacked O'Reilly 100 times and not named him WPITW 100 times. I get that. It's embarrassing to admit that a man you admire is so desperate that he must stoop to such gutter levels to garner support among left wing skum.

    You are playing the part of the poor, attacked liberal. Why doesn't Kfk lay off me and so forth. Give it a rest. It's overdone.

    So, Keith Olbermann is smarter than Bill O'Reilly is, huh? I'd dispute that, considering the whole Nazi salute thing and Keith's decision to work for MSNBC.

    Here's a little factoid about the Nazis and Fascists of WWII. Hitler and Mussolini were both communists as young men. Let's call them international socialists. As they got older, they became more nationalistic in their socialism. The Nazis were great proponents of euthanizing folks like Terri Schindler, aborting the unwashed, such as the Jews and the Slavs, as well as killing off the elderly and the handicapped.

    What political party does that sound like today.

    P.S. The founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger, had some very kind words to say about her hero Adolf Hitler. Nice legacy, there PP. The black population in the U.S. is around 13%, yet the abortion rate among American blacks is at 30%. Hmmmm. As Margaret Sanger said regarding procreation, " More from the fit, less from the unfit."

    Re: Margaret Sanger, I seem to recall quite a few people had nice things to say about A. Hitler back in the day. For example, Charles Lindbergh. The German-American Bund. American Isolationists, including many Republican politicians. You could look it up.

    I can see why you didn't want to clarify to Nick that Olbermann had attacked O'Reilly 100 times and not named him WPITW 100 times. I get that. It's embarrassing to admit that a man you admire is so desperate that he must stoop to such gutter levels to garner support among left wing skum.

    And my question was: what is your point? If the definition of attacking someone is poking fun at them or calling them names then I'm sure you're guilty too, as am I, as is everybody. I've probably "attacked" my little brother 200 times in the past year, but it must have been because liberalism and such...

    You are playing the part of the poor, attacked liberal. Why doesn't Kfk lay off me and so forth.

    My point was to ask what the point was. And what do you mean "the part of the..." is that some infamous role you have built up in your head? I used KfK's name because he's just as guilty, and if you want to call anyone obsessed you have to do it to almost everyone else.

    Pat, if you'd like to argue if the Nazi's are on the right or left of the political spectrum I'd be happy to. The Nazi's are at the peak of authoritarianism and to the right (it shifts right because of the economic beliefs). Social views have nothing to do with pushing someone to the left or right (for example the Catholic Church is against the Death Penalty, does that push them further to the left? Does being anti-abortion push them further to the right? No.) You're also confusing the Hitler's Nazi's who wanted an Aryan race of super-beings with mercy killing of the terminally ill and a mother's choice to do what she wants with the cells in her body (first time I've heard abortion compared the holocaust). In fact, the opposite of Nazism is liberal socialism, so please do some research before you try to label Hitler's Nazi's as Democrats.

    The black population in the U.S. is around 13%, yet the abortion rate among American blacks is at 30%.

    If you're trying to make a point here you failed.

    Olbermann is a Nazi!

    And you're an idiot!

    Next Question!

    Non Factor, I think you know the point I was trying to make about American blacks and Abortion. There are more abortion mills in the inner cities of America proportionaly than in other parts of America with, let's say, whiter populations. When Margaret Sanger made those comments about " the unfit " she had blacks in mind, first and foremost.

    Charles Lindberg has long since been discredited as has the politicians of that time. How about Margaret Sanger?

    An unborn baby is a human being and not just a clump of cells. We're a clump of cells as well. No woman has the right to kill another human being, whether it's inside her womb or outside. Think about how your belief does extreme violence to basic logic. Only a matter of inches and minutes seperate a baby from being a mass of cells and being a human being, of being protected by laws and not being protected by laws. If a pregnant woman is beaten and her baby dies, it's murder because she WANTED the baby. But if she doesn't want the baby, she can kill it. It's madness.... liberal thinking at it's best. Science is on the side of the pro life moment, that's why the pro abortion movement now shrieks on about " choice " not that it's just a bunch of cells. Saying it's not human hurts your crediblility here.

    The Nazis and the Communists had a whole lot in common, starting with their dividing up of Poland and the shared rape of that country. They had their concentration camps, lust for power, their secret police, their persecution of Jews, etc...

    The Nazis would feel quite comfortable among the leftist ethicists of the Ivy League. Whether it's forced abortion by the Nazis among the Slavs and the Chinese government of today or the decision made by a woman today of her own free will, it's still murder.

    I'm not comparing abortion and the holocaust. Abortion far exceeds the holocaust, in size and scope. Hundreds of millions of unborn have been aborted world wide. The number is approaching 50 million in the U.S. alone since roe vs. wade.

    the Catholic Church is not against the death penalty in the same way it's against abortion. The late great Pope John Paul II said it should be used in extreme cases. He said those reasons are practically " non existent." But he allows for such reasons. There is no exception for abortion. NONE. Considering there are close to 20,000 murders in the U.S. annually and around 60 executions, I'd say we as a nation don't have an assembly line approach to the death penalty.

    John Paul II's encyclical was sent out to world leaders and not to America alone. You can be executed in many countries for the smallest of reasons.


    Just doing a google search I figured out a bit more about that quote you attribute to Sanger:

    "More children from the fit, less from the unfit — that is the chief issue in birth control."
    A quotation falsely attributed to Margaret Sanger, this statement was made by the editors of American Medicine in a review of an article by Sanger. The editorial from which this appeared, as well as Sanger's article, "Why Not Birth Control Clinics in America?" were reprinted side-by-side in the May 1919 Birth Control Review (Sanger, 1919b).

    from plannedparenthood.com, and sure, they could be lying completely, but I won't be arsed to look up more right now.

    An unborn baby is a human being and not just a clump of cells. We're a clump of cells as well. No woman has the right to kill another human being

    This is the main reason why I hate the "abortion debate." We can't even agree on what life is (and for that matter death) and people expect us to agree on anything or make laws for more than 300 million people. A blastocyst is not a human being; a fetus is not a human being. If they were humans they would be called humans by citizens and scientists alike. But it isn't just a semantics issue; it has to deal with what we define, not as life, but human life. All cells are alive, yes, but just because a sperm cell fertilizes an egg does not mean a human being is created (can we at least agree on that?). And beyond the scientific point--husbands, men, other women, and especially governments should NEVER be able to gain control of a woman's body simply because a sperm cell is a good swimmer. Women don't sign over their body because an egg of theirs now has a sperm cell in it--that is why it is called pro-choice--a woman has the right to choose what she does with her body. You may personally think that egg + sperm = human, but that does not make it true. Again, this is an issue about life and death, and we can't even agree where one starts and where one ends, and when people ignore science this issue is impossible to come to an agreement on.

    The Nazis and the Communists had a whole lot in common

    Hitler is rolling over in his grave. Sure, in some ways the Hitler's Nazi's are similar to the Stalin's Communist's (authoritarianism), and probably in some ways current and past U.S. governments have been similar to Hitler's Nazism, but that does not mean we should equate the two. Just look up Nazism and Communism on wikipedia--they're two completely different belief systems.

    It looks like the rest of your post is about abortion, and since you think fetus' are living human beings there's nothing I can really argue with. The last thing I can say is that abortion isn't the systematic killing of unwanted people as you believe. This is why your holocaust analogy fails, it's why your Nazi analogy fails, and it's why your argument is moot. A fetus is part of the woman's body, just as the eggs are part of her body, the only difference is that a sperm cell is in the egg and it may or may not become a child, naturally or otherwise.

    Ten bucks Douchebag rants on about Mel Gibsons tirade this weekend and makes him WPITW sometime soon.

    No mention of the more vile Nazi salute done by douchebag in public at a "journalist" meeting

    Liberals...good for not much more than a laugh

    I just wanted to mention that the Nazis were right wing to see if anybody would claim that they were left wing. DING DING DING!!! Took all of about 5 hours. I used to torture myself by listening to Flush Rimblaugh from time to time and one time he tried to make the same koo-koo claim. What kind of world do these numbskulls live in? Olbermann supports "Iran, Hezzbollah, Hams and Al-Qaeda." I'm not sure about the hams, but I'm pretty sure that he doesn't support the others. I will give this site some credit though. Unlike most right wing sites, they do allow an open discussion. Won't be coming back though, but have fun in your little world where the Nazis represented the left! Hahahah!