Rival?
KO is a pimple on the ass of O’Reilly!

Hey Bob,

you were mentioned in the daily news.
http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/438832p-369599c.html

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/438832p-369599c.html
"Mostly it's Olbermann, host of MSNBC's third-place Countdown......"

That’s a shaky third.
Some nights he is 5th if CNBC has got a hot “Poker” game on….hehehehehehhehe…lol.

NY Daily News story confirming what I thought - the Olbermann & NBC News strategy "never really done on TV before" Powers that be at NBC now setting a great new standard, all ethics in media crumbling.

NBC News - using this all out marketing strategy to promote Olbermann's way left agenda - just this week - Tonight show appearance, Imus a lame attempt to spin the "rivalry" (note - the "rivalry" is with Paula Zahn or Poker - not O'Reilly), Nazi references, attacking O'Reilly nightly

Yeah Russert, Brokaw and Williams, Gregory & Mitchell - please continue to tell us what is wrong with America.

NY Times stockprice 21 1/2 - what a 7 year low?

What a disgrace

Keith Olberdone= parasite

MSNBC could double their primetime ratings by just showing endless repeats of “Dateline Predator 1-6” or those prison shows...lol.

OMG!!!

Sorry to change the subject, Mr. Cox, but that NY Daily News article has got me enraged! Hopefully you'll put up a separate post so it can be addressed.

I'll just excerpt some of my issues from a post I wrote over at TVHeads:

The print media has been writing for months about a "feud" between Keith Olbermann and Bill O'Reilly. Actually, no such feud exists; instead, Olbermann has what is becoming a scary obsession with O'Reilly, and has attacked him on air and in public 100 times and counting. Keith's friends in the media write about this constantly; no matter how often anyone writes to them to correct them about their use of the term "feud", they will not let up!" The "feud" has NEVER been more incorrectly magnified than in Helen Kennedy's column today in the NY Daily News. She quotes Robert Thompson of Syracuse University: "It's comic relief. These guys are one step away from doing a Tom and Jerry routine and pounding each other with big rubber bats."

But keep in mind, again, that O'Reilly has never mentioned Olbermann and has simply referred to him only TWICE! Yet in the mind of the author and her cohorts, this constitutes a feud!

And Ms. Kennedy finds it convenient to ignore that fact, coming out with the conclusion that "the planspoken, blue-collar O'Reilly frequently fails to ignore the snarky Ivy League pest poking fun at him." Therefore, referring to Olbermann twice (vs. his 100+ attacks on O'Reilly) means he "frequently fails to ignore" Olbermann? Is not ~98/100 a fairly high level of frequency?

Can anyone tell me why this pathetic writer, who is obviously taking sides here, finds it necessary to refer to O'Reilly as "blue collar", despite that O'Reilly has a Master's degree from Harvard, vs. Olbermann's bachelor's degree from Cornell? And why is Olbermann referred to as the "snarky Ivy League pest"? Why does the author mention that Olbermann attended an Ivy League school while omitting the fact that O'Reilly did (at Harvard) as well? Isn't Harvard rated higher academically than Cornell?

For future reference, just remember this formula:

Master's degree from Harvard = blue-collar
Bachelor's from Cornell = Ivy League

Writers in the media can write whatever they want with impunity! Do you think they will ever be called in by their management to answer to the fact that the "feud" is one-sided, and is not a feud at all? Or that responding only TWICE to over 100 attacks is "failing to frequently ignore" someone? Or will they be asked how they could refer to Olbermann as an Ivy Leaguer and O'Reilly as "blue-collar", despite O'Reilly's higher level of education at a better institution? NO! They're in power; they have control of the media and they determine the type of spin they want a story to portray.

My degrees are not in journalism, but I thought basic fact-checking and writing about truth was the foundation of journalism. But the longer I read so much of what is put out there by these newspaper journalists, the more I see that the profession of journalism is a laden with deception and/or fraud.

"the profession of journalism is a laden with deception and/or fraud"

All very well said, but I'd put profession in quotes. In the 60's & early 70's the revolution was to question everything, search for the truth. We've come a complete cycle - teach and encourage deception and fraud, be scared of the truth.

Is the MSM loooney Liberal?
This non feud is similar to their love for Jon Stewart from the Daily Show.
Remember how you couldn�t read a paper or watch a news or variety show without someone kissing Stewarts ass? You would have thought he had 15 million viewers!
The crazy liberals did the same thing with that fox show �Arrested Development�.
The show NEVER broke the top 70 yet it got press like it was Seinfeld and if you casually mentioned that you didnt like it you were called an idiot and told that only smart people get it.

Robert, have you seen the Rachel Maddow quote on Keith Olbermann? She did an interview with "Edge" magazine. Said that they had wedged Keith between two right-wing shows and he was killing them. Is Hardball right wing? Is Joe's celebrity gossip hour right wing?

The real embarrassment for the MSNBC primetime lineup is on Fridays when they air the Prison shows or umpteenth repeat of Dateline Predator they do better then the mon-thurs primetime MSNBC stuff.

Thanks for pointing me to the mention in the Daily News.

I did link to the Maddow quote in the "KO Notebook Mini-blog" which runs along the right-hand column of the blog. It is actually a feed from Del.icio.us. You can get both the blog and the miniblog in one package if you subscribe to the RSS feed (see the top of the page for more).

Thanks, Robert. I just read your explanation of the RSS feed and it sounds great. I'll give it a shot.

The Daily News story is simply taking the line from the PR folks at MSNBC, who desperately want people to believe there's a feud, even if all the invective is coming from one direction. They want people to get the idea that Keith and Bill are locked in a video steel cage death match so they'll tune in to see the next bit of catty venom that's let loose.

This might actually work a little for MSNBC on a short-term basis. If they can convince enough people there really is some sort of feud, with both sides lobbing verbal bombs nightly, they might get a little ratings boost. But that only works if O'Reilly and Fox are dumb enough to take the bait. If they decline to treat Keith as a ratings equal, only the hard core will be willing to sit through a nightly snark-fest on Countdown with no reply coming from the other side.

Unless you're totally committed to the cause and just can't stand O'Reilly, one-way stuff like that becomes boring pretty quickly.

How come Olby baby snickers ever time he says Bush is on a working vacation. Now MSNBC wants US to snicker when they say Olbermanns on a “working” vacation.

Al Gores appearance on Countdown did nothing for KO.
Petition drives from the Looney Left hate sites did nothing for KO.
This latest KO media lovin blitz will do nothing for KO.

I've been surfing through this site and reading the posts over the past couple of days and have noticed a very consistent message. The tone of this blog and the message it conveys is to counterpoint Keith Olbermann and his so called misinforming of the public(Again I have asked for evidence of this yet no one has come forward with any). Now first off, everyone is entitled by the constitution of this great country to be given the freedom of speech. So, if you feel KO is misinforming the public than by all means you have every right to do so. But my only question is why KO? According to some of the so called informed on this blog, he is last in rating, no one watches his show, his show is poorly produced, and he will be cancelled at any moment...oh and he is a nazi lover. Anyway,why KO? If according to the informed he reaches the least amount of people....again this solely based on your expertise of reading ratings numbers, WHY HIM? No one watchess him anyway....can't we be more effective by going after the O'Reilly's, the Limbaughs, The Hannity's, The coulters, the beck's and so...these people have a bigger audience and are misinforming more people on a daily basis so let's take on those guys!!!!!...........I mean this is logical right?...or is it what lies underneath the surface of this blog......KO is considered a liberal democrat and you can't stand the fact he is actually countering the misinformation spewed by afformentioned talk show host?

" I have asked for evidence of this yet no one has come forward with any"

Sheesh. Do you really believe that every time an OlbyLoon shows up, we are going to go over stuff that we've already explained time and time again? You can find dozens of Olbermann lies documented and exposed in the archives of this site. If you're too lazy to read them for yourself, then don't blame us.

JOhnnyDollar-Sheesh. Do you really believe that every time an OlbyLoon shows up, we are going to go over stuff that we've already explained time and time again? You can find dozens of Olbermann lies documented and exposed in the archives of this site. If you're too lazy to read them for yourself, then don't blame us.

Again where is the proof he misinforms and thank you for answering(avoiding) the other topics I covered.

They're called archives. Get off your lazy liberal butt and look up what you see, the proof is all right here and has been well-documented by Johnny$$$ and Bob.

They're called archives. Get off your lazy liberal butt and look up what you seek, the proof is all right here and has been well-documented by Johnny$$$ and Bob.

Fat chance of him getting off his lazy ass Brandon. He needs to be spoon fed like the little child he is showing himself to be. Not worth the time or effort. He's just an amusement to most here and we're all just waiting in anticipation of an OW induced meltdown. You don't want to miss it.

Haven't the conservatives on this site been predicting a meltdown since Countdown started?

Oh, and if people want to show that Olbermann is misleading the public on purpose to advance an agenda they could get some proof. If they don't want to prove it they don't have to get any proof.

"Haven't the conservatives on this site been predicting a meltdown since Countdown started?

Oh, and if people want to show that Olbermann is misleading the public on purpose to advance an agenda they could get some proof. If they don't want to prove it they don't have to get any proof."

First off, where did I specify a KO meltdown? I was refering to ORS. He's starting to show the symptoms and I just felt he needed to be watched so no one would miss the enjoyment.

Secondly, nice use of double speak there. Haven't seen it since grade school many years ago. Suits you well.

I'm pretty sure you're using the term doublespeak wrongly here.

Missy, I did put up a seperate post on the NYDailyNews piece.

MSM KO Bandwagon #93: KO Serves up mud and liberal TV Critics Say "Yum"
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/07/msm_ko_bandwago_2.html

Enjoy!

(YAWN) symptoms............huh?......all I'm asking for his proof..........I have read through this whole site, including archives and ....well....um.....where is the proof. So get off your lazy conservative butt and provide some proof......let's have looksy.....show me what you got.....and again thank you for avoiding the other points of my post.

Shhh...I think O'Reillysucks is KO.

Try reading the O'Reillysucks blather with KO's voice....
(Wordy, could have been said with one sentence...Condescending, like he is better then us)

NONORS keeping asking for proof and when it is provided he ignores it and repeats the request. Hmmm. Maybe there is a pattern here.

So here we go again.

Here are two recent links.

The first one proves that NBC is using Nazi imagery to promote Olbermann and MSNBC; the second one proves Keith is lying when he claims that O'Reilly "defended Nazis".

GE & NBC Universal resort to using Nazism to promote MSNBC
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/07/first_leno_now.html

Olbermann Defends Nazi Salute with Lies and Slander
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/07/olbermann_defen.html

Now, what's the problem?

This is all you have......is this basis of your whole blog........huh?...I mean...I really thought.....atleast I was hoping to have a real discussion here but I don't think I'm going to get one.......stop avoiding the question or changing the subject..........where is the proof for the fourth time.....these articles basically prove my point.....you are taking an article based soley on an opinion....so please when you're talking archives.....I mean you have this whole site set up....and you ......this is all you have.......what next...are you going to blog about next.......

and again...you have failed to answer the main question in my blog above...here is a little tidbit in case you forgot....

I've been surfing through this site and reading the posts over the past couple of days and have noticed a very consistent message. The tone of this blog and the message it conveys is to counterpoint Keith Olbermann and his so called misinforming of the public(Again I have asked for evidence of this yet no one has come forward with any). Now first off, everyone is entitled by the constitution of this great country to be given the freedom of speech. So, if you feel KO is misinforming the public than by all means you have every right to do so. But my only question is why KO? According to some of the so called informed on this blog, he is last in rating, no one watches his show, his show is poorly produced, and he will be cancelled at any moment...oh and he is a nazi lover. Anyway,why KO? If according to the informed he reaches the least amount of people....again this solely based on your expertise of reading ratings numbers, WHY HIM? No one watchess him anyway....can't we be more effective by going after the O'Reilly's, the Limbaughs, The Hannity's, The coulters, the beck's and so...these people have a bigger audience and are misinforming more people on a daily basis so let's take on those guys!!!!!...........I mean this is logical right?...or is it what lies underneath the surface of this blog......KO is considered a liberal democrat and you can't stand the fact he is actually countering the misinformation spewed by afformentioned talk show host?

I saw the O’Reilly shows in questions. BO was not defending Nazis. He misspoke and the next day an e-mailer corrected him. If you see the shows in question you will realize just what a nothing story this really is. I will bet the farm that KO NEVER saw the show in question but in fact got his info from the koz-kids or one other Liberal hate sites!

I saw the O’Reilly shows in questions. BO was not defending Nazis. He misspoke and the next day an e-mailer corrected him. If you see the shows in question you will realize just what a nothing story this really is. I will bet the farm that KO NEVER saw the show in question but in fact got his info from the koz-kids or one other Liberal hate sites!

BillO misspoke........no!!!!!...bite your tongue.

Let’s put it this way ass-wipe.
IF BO’s comments were so callous and divisive don’t you think KO would have shown a clip of said comments on his show??? The video clip would be all over the internet if it were that heinous you anus. What do you say to that Keith!

Thats right ORS keep using the attack,attack,attack mode. It's working real well at Stale-Air America Radio

Rush:600+ stations

Hannity:500+ (i don't listen)

Beck:400+

Savage:high 300's

Air-America Radio: 89 stations and stuck!!!!!!
Air-America Radio, The olby of radio!

LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

Pucky...again...I don't know why you keep bring up air america radio.....I'm mean you're more than welcome to do so....but....yea......it's not a matter of subject right now......again take a deep breath...reread my post.....reread it again.........there may be some big words in there so just sound them out......and then come back....and write a intelligent repsonse...now I know you can do this pucky..I beleive in you.

Nick....nick..nick....nick...nick....nick...nick...nick......nick.....nick...nick....nick.....nick.......nick....um......MSNBC has to get approval for-.....nah just forget it anyway...I don't think you would understand. Go back to recess.

NIck-
I may have misjudge you...I just took a gander at your post.....heinous you anus....(chuckle).....that was great.....can I use this...I mean...I think you stumbled on to something here......

KO has in the past played BO clips.
Like the slanderous and libelous KO present situation KO is daring BO and FOX to engage them in petty litigation.
I mean really who needs the press??? Why it is Cable News Bottom feeder Keith Olberdone that’s who!!
KO= Parasite

again read my post above dated 7/28 timed at 506pm.....and answer my question....c'mon it's a legitimate request......that's all Im asking.........and by the way.

BO= witchhunter

I wonder which one (or more) of the Olberdone Cable News Bottom Feeder defenders is KO.
We know he spends much of his free time going to Yankee games, flirting with interns, and posting on messageboards.....hehehehhe.lol.

Nick...stop changing the subject and answer the questions.

If this was such an explosive story there would be video all over the internet.
I watch BO all the time. It is silly to say that he is a fan of the Nazis.
Olberdone just wants to be acknowledged and loved by his daddy BO and get some exposure.
Poker shows and Prison Specials crush KO in the ratings.
KO...soon to be TKOd....hhehehheheheheheeeee.lol

What say you (heheheh...lol)

Okay Nick...last chance please read the post specified below and answer to it......geez sometimes I feel like I'm talking to Rumsfeld....

Nick, I can't spell it out for you anymore...this does not come in pop up book format.....

Get a clue Nick. He's a minor celeb at best, by his own admission. You could tell the other night on the Tonight Show the audience had no idea who he even was. Maybe if someone like O'Reilly had done this, there would be video all over the internet but given that it's a minor celebrity, it's quite remarkable it has made as many papers as it has.

OM really needs to take his gig back to ESPN and read the baseball scores. Of course, he is no Berman.

I'm just trying to get my questions answered that's all....posted on 7/28 @506pm.......i mean can someone pleeeeeeeease answer this....

Wow...don't tell me this is what passes for "analysis" these days.

It's called hyperbole. Are people really offended? I mean, people besides ridiculous far-right borderline-retarded clowns?

Thank you....finalyy someone with an intelligent thought.

ORS - But my only question is why KO?

THIS is the question you want answered?

Well, as the founder of this great blog I think I can answer that better than anyone so let give it a try.

The number one reason why I created Olbermann Watch is because I knew it would be a magnet for OlbyLoons like you and I would rather have your time occupied posting your drivel on this site then out working to elect a candidate that represents their loony left views. Consider it my little contribution to the safety and future of our democracy.

seems like you are keeping more Republicans occupied judging by who posts to your site.

"KO is a pimple on the ass of O’Reilly!"

More like a pimp seelin' the ass of his bitch O'Reiilly

Robert...you raised my excitement level there...for about a hlf second.....honestly I was hoping for something more......actually expecting.....sir, you are the leader of this blog and this is your answer...your thought process.....honestly, this embarrasing....for you. When you have childish responses, avoiding questions, changing the subject......my question to you what are you trying to accomplish here......creating a parameter for morons...because I can tell you...as we've witnessed on this blog there are none......I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Hey, ORS, don't you understand? Are you really THAT dense? Any coherent argument you attempt is rendered useless by your faulty grasp of the English language. SPELLING? (poor) USAGE? (pitiful)

Olberschmuck would be very disappointed.

Go away and come back when you can express yourself as if you hadn't been lobotomized.

Hey, ORS, in your case the horseapple didn't fall far from the, well, I think even YOU know where you came from!

Robert good answer. Keep the Loons close and the Moonbats closer.

From OREILLYSUCKSSUCKSOLBY: "WHY HIM? No one watchess him anyway....can't we be more effective by going after the O'Reilly's, the Limbaughs, The Hannity's, The coulters, the beck's and so...these people have a bigger audience and are misinforming more people on a daily basis so let's take on those guys!!!!!...........I mean this is logical right?...or is it what lies underneath the surface of this blog......KO is considered a liberal democrat and you can't stand the fact he is actually countering the misinformation spewed by afformentioned talk show host?"

KO a liberal democrat. No. He's a Certified Moonbat. JFK was a liberal democrat. KO's more from the baby killing, tree hugging, terrorist loving wing of the Democrat party.

O'reilly, Limbaugh, Hannity go on record daily maybe you could enlighten the site to there mis-information. That would be some sort of out of context quotes at best. Those guys are mainly opinion and don't claim to be news. They allow the other side's point of view so it can be opened for ridicule. Which they do a good job of ridiculing. KO is more like KOS website in as much as no opposing opinion is tolerated. KO, KOS, DU, etc. Leftist opinion does not hold up to debate so they don't allow any.

Scooter.......I enjoyed your post.....I did manage to guide mself through the river of delusion and B.S......and when I got to the end...found there was nothing more than ignorance...

First off and I think even you know this(I hope).......no one in the Democratic party loves terrorists.....there is really no need for an arguement here....because think of how ridiculous this sounds.

Secondly, if you think Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and hannity do not smear or misinform.......then you are simply a lost cause.......and if you don't realize this now.....then I feel sorry for you but you will forever be in the land of ignorance......more or less a permanent resident.
I hope everyone in your family knows it's unsafe to leave you unsupervised.....and they keep you away from the neighbors dog......good luck to you.

As for the other alien or something who likz too grayed my posts lyke he's a Englash teecher.....I will utilize my spell check and of course type slower.......

Anyway...in regards to your statements..........do you ever or should I say have you ever...made a point about anything.....or for that matter....is there a point to your whole existence......get back to me when you can-..........never mind you're probably confused already.

The thing is...when you and scooty make these points and ramble on like a couple of douchebags......I actually feel better about our situation(that is us democrats)....you are the type of life forms that spew the same garbage over and over and over....and over....and well look at the current approval rating for Congress(27%)......and Lil Georgey(35%)......let me tell you a little secret....the american people ahve stopped buying the rhetoric.....I mean this whole site I actually took serious for about a day and then realized...this is not a threat...there is nothing but a bunch of......I don't know what a person would call you guys....something that defines....ignorance...stupid...dumb.....vile........misinformed......retarded.....stupid.....slow.......careless.....really dumb.....maybe I'll stick with douchebag......or dumbasses...or necumpoops(sp?)....or filth......maybe I'll combine them.....doubaspoopts.....anyway...I'm going to sleep great tonight knowing 1- with you doubaspoopts around everyday will get better and better for us Democrats..or dare I say us liberals...and 2- I found a new form of entertainment......this is exciting...almost lie a video game or something.

I talk to you life forms tomorrow...nanu nanu.

It must be true. YOU prove it isn't.
Just like the Dan Rather CBS debacle hardly watched Countdown host Keith Olberdone is on a Bill O'Reilly is sympathetic to Nazis tour without providing a shred of evidence.
The LOOOONEY Liberal Left minions record and document anything right of Howard Dean but CANNOT come up with any video backing the bottom feeder cable news disappointment Keith Olberdone's assertion about the king of cable news Bill O'Reilly!!!
MSNBC= no ratings
What a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSER KO is!!!!

I think I've reached the point of skimming over comments from ORS in the same way I skim over the cartoons.

Note to ORS - don't let that stop you from posting. I am sure someone finds you interesting. Just not me. Best of luck to you.

Nick...here is a link for you....www.mediamatters.org

don't say I never tried to help......you loon.

ORS you make my point and look foolish when you ramble on and don't adress points made.

Yes terrorist loving leftists. Go to zombietime.com and see what a left wing rally looks like. Hint it ain't pretty. Its as anti Bush as you and is heavily attended by Communists, Anti Semites, and every sort of oddity you could imagine. And its coming out. You can't stop it. Your side is Loony Toons. Polls you site are laughable because of the way there conducted. But I believe congress has low approval ratings because of airtime given to your moonbats in congress. They get all the face time on TV and thats why congress polls so low. Thats reality deal with it.

ORS you make my point and look foolish when you ramble on and don't adress points made.

Yes terrorist loving leftists. Go to zombietime.com and see what a left wing rally looks like. Hint it ain't pretty. Its as anti Bush as you and is heavily attended by Communists, Anti Semites, and every sort of oddity you could imagine. And its coming out. You can't stop it. Your side is Loony Toons. Polls you site are laughable because of the way there conducted. But I believe congress has low approval ratings because of airtime given to your moonbats in congress. They get all the face time on TV and thats why congress polls so low. Thats reality deal with it.

ORS you make my point and look foolish when you ramble on and don't adress points made.

Yes terrorist loving leftists. Go to zombietime.com and see what a left wing rally looks like. Hint it ain't pretty. Its as anti Bush as you and is heavily attended by Communists, Anti Semites, and every sort of oddity you could imagine. And its coming out. You can't stop it. Your side is Loony Toons. Polls you site are laughable because of the way there conducted. But I believe congress has low approval ratings because of airtime given to your moonbats in congress. They get all the face time on TV and thats why congress polls so low. Thats reality deal with it.

Bye george soros that place looks about as objective as bottom feeder Olberdones daily lefty pulpit.

Scooty...here is the thing...it's obvious you can't read past three sentences because if you could you would've noticed I addressed each and every one of your ignorant statements in your post.......secondly, I visited that web site you spoke of and I agree with you...these people are insane...but you denounce everyone who disagrees with this administrations policies and label terrorist lovers.......now didn't we fight for years and years, war after war so we could have that freedom......I can honestly say I was on board with Georgey after 9/11.....and going after Bin Laden.....but as we have seen....the agenda of this administration has miss the mark several times since them. Iraq is just one example........now to again to label anyone who disagrees with a POV as a terrorist lover...is equivelant to Mccarthyism....it's like say all right wing people think like Ann Coulter does........you can spin the polls however you want, the proof will be in the elections in November.

ORS, for you to address an envelope would make you cataleptic. As for issues, reading kos must give you brain freeze. Soros must be damned proud of his minions.

Non sequitur....non sequitur....non sequitur....ad infinitum. What a hunt and peck typist punk.

ORSS..........proving it over and over again that
he is the dumbest person in the world.

But you gotta love him...he is entertaining......in a bottom feeder sort of way.

The media wing of the Democrat party loves Terrorists. They never do any stories about all the Islamic honor killings in US and mainly in Europe and Islamic countries. They never run any negative stories about terrorists at all. But they hammer Bush Co. everytime they get a chance. No Dan Blather piece about Osama never volunteering to go to paradise as he sends his followers there. But Blather tried to sway an election right or wrong. He doesnt treat Osama so negative. None of the news outlets do. How easy a story to put out that Osama doesn't have the courage to blow himself up and is a coward. Now did our media do that story. NO. Thats no coincidence. News is just as much about what they don't say. So yes the media wing of the Democrat party including and especially KO are terrorist sympathizers through omission.

You were on board with georgey after 9/11. Wow how big of you to support the POS after an attack against our way of life and the death of 3000 American citizens. You don't get it and you never will....sigh. Well keep looking for Utopia and remember if things get rough get going change sides, blame people, criticize and ridicule. Appease. Dont try anything difficult and hope for the best.

Scooty...this is a great topic...I'm serious because this is a great discussion.......of course I'm going to disagree with you here, but here is why.

When you say liberal left media...who do you mean?
Dan Rather(Blather as you say) was 100% wrong for what he did. No journalist should put there views or agenda before the facts of the story they are reporting.......so were in agreement.

Secondly- to say the liberal media loves terrorist is a huuuuuge stretch. I consider myself a liberal(bet you didn't know that) and I can't find one ounce of my body that loves terrorism or terrorists and I certainly would depise anyone who would. Are there people in this country and in the media that make these asinine statements...absolutely.....is it the majority...absolutely not. I think when people write stories and do expose's on Al Queda or other terror groups it's with the thought process of trying to understand their way of thinking. I mean, for instance if a guy is willing to blow himself up in a Starbucks in the name of Allah, wouldn't you want to know why because maybe, just maybe understanding the process of this vile human being may get us one step closer to finding out what we can do to prevent this........Scooty, if you're about to get into fight with someone or better yet let's say you're a baseball pitcher and the guy coming up to the plate is a monster of a hitter, wouldn't knowing his weakness in the strike zone make him an easy out or at least control the damage he may do.Now I have seen plenty of negative stories on terrorists....everday in fact.

The other point about the wrath Georgey takes in the media.....well there are a lot of reasons for this....in my opinion. Like I said in another post, I was behind him after 9/11.....let's get Osama and make him pay for what hehas done....and then what happened....Iraq happened and for no reason. Everything we were told about Iraq has been proven wrong.....you have to admit this.
And if you had a choice as to which country is least to worry about and your choices were North Korea, Iran, and Iraq.......everyone would have said Iraq.....so the beating he takes in the media is well deserved...he has really screwed things up.....the situation in Iraq gets worse and worse...there are so many topics of discussion but I 've chosen these...hopefully you respect my points as I do your and don't respond with adolescent name calling and lower yourself to other morons on this board.....lets' have a discussion.

Wordy lib he is :(

Osama isn't key to anything. Hes a figure head,a syptom to a huge disease. I already understand it and dont need the media trying to convince me all muslims aren't bad. I get it. But enough of them think just like Osama that getting him is small potatoes. Invade there countries, depose there leaders and expose them as the poseurs they are. Help them get Democracy or at least out of filthy poverty, And maybe you end there un-warranted hatred of the US. GWB was exactly right on. Osama's just a symptom we need a vaccine against the disease. We need to all get on the same page on that subject. Currently we have the luxury of time. Time to debate topics because we don't toil in the fields from sun up till sun down wondering how we'll eat for today.
So yes lets be civil and discuss topics. I'm all for it.

ORS wrote:
"hopefully you respect my points as I do your and don't respond with adolescent name calling and lower yourself to other morons on this board"

Hah-ha-ha, an imbecile name-calling his superiors "morons." What a silly...