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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    August 16, 2006
    COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN - AUGUST 16, 2006

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    JON BENET RAMSEY: Lawrence Schiller, author
    POLITICIZING THE ALLEGED, PURPORTED, SUPPOSED TERROR PLOT: Dana Milbank, Washington Post
    ZOGBY POLL FINDS AMERICANS ARE ILL-INFORMED: Mo Rocca

    Dan Abrams has a vision for A-Mess-NBC, and for Countdown. Serious news coverage has gradually been cut back on The Hour of Spin, in favor of tabloid stories, attacks, gimmicks, and celebrity fluff. The promos for Countdown focus on celebrities, tabloid news, and even Bill O'Reilly attacks. Tonight the renovation of Countdown faced its ultimate test. There has been an arrest in the Jon Benet Ramsey case, and all the known facts about it could be relayed in about ten minutes, tops. But on Countdown this story dominated the opening spiel, and consumed more than two-thirds of the hour. Abrams will be studying the overnights very closely come tomorrow afternoon.

    Of course there was still room for OlbySpin. The Republicans are "politicizing" the terror war again, because the staunchly apolitical B.J. Clinton says so (his comments were "remarkably telling" according to KO). But the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann said not one word about politicizing from the (D) side of the aisle, including two specific examples we brought to his attention yesterday.

    Dana Milbank, devoid of dashing duds, echoed Keith's spin about the President campaigning on the terror issue, claiming he was telling people to "be afraid". Neither of them said one word about Ed Markey (D) who held a press conference in DC about port security, telling people to be afraid--and then, when something happened in Boston, took a plane and held another press conference there to the same effect. On The Hour of Spin, politicizing is only news when Republicans do it.

    And then there's this. Newpaper reporter Jill Carroll was kidnapped by terrorists in Iraq, and it was Big News on The Hour of Spin. Olby made it one of his featured stories day after day after day:

    Jan. 18: Our fourth story on THE COUNTDOWN, threats, kidnapping and terror, beginning with the desperate effort to secure the release or rescue of the abducted American journalist, Jill Carroll.

    Jan. 19: Our next guest with unique insight, perhaps, into what Jill Carroll is going through. Former NBC News correspondent Kevin Sites has been covering the war in Iraq since it began.

    Jan. 20: But we begin our third story on the COUNTDOWN tonight on this 25th anniversary of the day the embassy hostages were released in Iran, with the agonizing wait in Iraq for word on the fate of Jill Carroll. Our correspondent in Baghdad in Preston Mendenhall.

    The discredited Keith Olbermann gave heavy, repeated coverage of a newspaper reporter kidnapped by terrorists in Iraq. Yet for three days straight he has not uttered one word about the Fox News reporter and camerman who were kidnapped by Palestinian terrorists in Gaza. Why the double standard?


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    I thought about the fact that he hadn't mentioned the Fox reporter and cameraman, too. What's the deal? Can't he say something brief yet meaningful? That's right...sorry, forgot who I was talking about.

    Chris Matthews spent weeks pining and predicting the Rove and Cheney perp walk that never happened, anonymous source, unnamed HIGH ranking officials, and our panel of (Liberal) pundits. An orgy of hack journalism MSNBC style!!!!!

    Funny thing is the lame liberal MSM didn't care to ask Bubba Clinton what he thought about the UAE port deal.
    Oh wait I forgot Bill Clinton is on the payroll of the UAE. He has received millions in speaking fees from, along with heavy donations for the Clinton library from, the UAE!!!!!!

    " Yet for three days straight he has not uttered one word about the Fox News reporter and camerman who were kidnapped by Palestinian terrorists in Gaza. Why the double standard?"

    Keith Olbermann once agin proved he supports Islamo-Fascism. He never condemns anything that the Jihadis do. If he was just a Leftists I wouldn't care. But his support of Jihadism makes him the Tokyo Rose of our era!

    I agree there are some weak points.

    But it's important to point out: Jan. 18th was 11 days after Carroll was kidnapped, if you'd bothered to check. That's when KO started reporting by your account. It's only been 3 days since the Fox reporters were kidnapped.

    Meltdown has become tabloid news
    Jon Benet, Britney Spears, and Tom Cruise
    Keith's schtick is tired
    No facts required
    For the show that nobody views

    I didn't claim he STARTED reporting on that day. I believe he filed his first report on the day it happened. He hasn't filed his first report on this story yet and it's already THREE DAYS into the kidnapping.

    Johnny Dollar: You should have said that. Why didn't you note that he started reported right away, instead of using dates that were farther into the future.

    It would be more convincing.

    I agree w/ much of this blog, but you could do a better job.

    "The substitution of speculation for analysis." KO crows about this tonight in regards to the JonBenet Ramsey case. YET EVERY NIGHT, THAT'S HIS SHOW! Never let the facts get in the way of partisan hyperbole.

    Gee, maybe you're a fucking hypocrite, Olbermann. My analysis. Go crawl back in the tub, you're bathetic.

    Well, antipartisan, you buy me a subscription to Lexis/Nexis and I'll be able to quote vertabim what Olby said on every day of the calendar. Unfortunately I don't have that, and have to rely on the horrible msnbc website to find direct quotes, and their transcript archive is full of holes and unreliable. IT's like searching for a needle in a haystack.

    Fair enough. All these sites are like that.

    Fox, frankly, is not better at all. Perhaps worse.

    But they're all bad.

    I know many here won't like this: But NPR is quite good, despite any potential leanings.

    Keith Olbermann once agin proved he supports Islamo-Fascism. He never condemns anything that the Jihadis do. If he was just a Leftists I wouldn't care. But his support of Jihadism makes him the Tokyo Rose of our era!

    You'd think the Emperor of the Galactic Empire could afford a better writer. Do you just copy-and-paste Palpatine, because obviously your last original thought occured about two months ago...

    Yet for three days straight he has not uttered one word about the Fox News reporter and camerman who were kidnapped by Palestinian terrorists in Gaza.

    Well, considering there has been no "claim of responsibility", no demands, no video and no idea who did it, it leaves very little to say other than:

    Day 1: Masked Palestinians kidnap FOX journalists

    Day 2: They're still missing. Palestinian authorities are looking for them. U.S. officials demand their release.

    Day 3: Still missing...

    Day 4: Still missing...

    etc., etc.

    I can give you two reasons KO hasn't mentioned the kidnapping yet.

    1. It would involve him not being able to slam, bach , or deride FNC while doing it. See, this has nothing to do with spin (except the terrorist thugs in Palestine probably don't like the fact that FNC reports that there are terrorist thugs in Palesting). It would involve truthful, objestive, respectful reporting of a tragic story. Three things KO is incapable of.

    2. It was PALESTINIAN terrorists that did the kidnapping. Reporting that fact would go against the KO creed in so many ways. Lets count them.

    a) It would involve saying something bad about the Palestinian freedom fighters who just want their homeland back and are suffering under Isreali oppression.

    b) It is a kidnapping by a terrorist group (Pali has already gotten credit for those who missed it) that has been undertaking terrorist activities for decades. There wouldn't be anyway to blame the neo-cons or the war in Iraq for this one.

    c) The Democrats haven't come out and blamed the Bush administration for the kidnapping. Neither has the Republican party blamed the "cut and run" Democrats for encouraging it. So there are no quotes by Republicans for KO to play and cry that the Repubs are politicizing the kidnapping and say his now signature line "at the nexus of politics and terror."

    One last reason. Run a search on Centanni on either MediaMatters or Daily Kos. Nothing on either of those. So KO probably doesn't even know about it yet.

    It would involve truthful, objestive, respectful reporting of a tragic story. Three things KO is incapable of.

    Apparently you were asleep when Keith covered ABC's Bob Woodruff nearly being killed by an IED in Iraq.

    No, apparently YOU were asleep or just in your constant state of denial where Olby is concerned. He reported Bob Woodruff's accident all right, but don't you know that was ALL George W. Bush's fault? Why he was the one who personally detonated the IED.

    "it leaves very little to say other than: Day 1: Masked Palestinians kidnap FOX journalists"

    He hasn't even said that. Why not?

    Why not?

    Well, for starters, the story broke just 3 1/2 hours before Countdown went on the air. So details were incredibly scarce and, unlike a potential security threat, this is not a story that you rush. You need to verify and source it. Otherwise, it becomes like the infamous situation where someone finds out their loved one is in peril because the news told them before the authorities did.

    According to the Christian Science Monitor, when Caroll was taken hostage, they asked all news agencies to sit on the story as long as possible for her safety. I don't think it does anyone any good to talk about this story. I'm with you in general, Johnny, Olberman is a partisan and makes few bones about it. But you are barking up the wrong tree here. The fact that those guys are Fox puts them in more jeopardy, and frankly, everyone should shut up about it. This isn't something for stupid political games.

    I'm sure the thugs know who they have by now, but nonetheless, you're harping for MORE coverage rather than less only plays into their hands.

    "I know many here won't like this: But NPR is quite good, despite any potential leanings."

    FUCK YOU.

    "You need to verify and source it."

    So it wasn't verified by Tuesday? It wasn't verified by Wednesday? When will it be verified? Oh I know, on a Saturday, when Olby isn't there. How come MSNBC was reporting it on their other programs on Monday and Tuesday and Wednesday, but Keith Olbermann did not?

    "when Caroll was taken hostage, they asked all news agencies to sit on the story as long as possible for her safety."

    And yet Olby reported on it the very day it happened. Fox has not asked anyone else to sit on this story. MSNBC reported it on Monday, long before Countdown even aired. But Olbermann has deliberately made a decision that he will not report it. Since he went so heavy on the Carroll story, and is spiking this one, all I'm doing is asking a simple question. Why the double standard?

    "...all I'm doing is asking a simple question. Why the double standard?"

    Scenario: I know my wife's uncles are rascists. I will freely talk about the fact that they are rascists because they are. I make jokes about their rascism. Now say two Mexican thugs take one hostage and hold a gun to his head. Am I holding a "double standard" if I refrain from sending these guys a letter telling them my uncle is a big rascist?

    Olberman may have different politics than you, but you both are equally clueless and classless, and on this one, you outdo him by a mile. The thing you find most interesting about two people being abducted and possibly tortured and killed is that you can use it to question the credibility of some left wing comedian in a ratings fight with a right-wing comedian? You think it would be more honorable for him to talk up the incident, badmouth fox, and try to incite violence against the captives? It's your kind of thoughtless chatter that makes people like Olberman sound good.

    At least Olberman gets paid for his frivolous waste of time and makes people laugh. You volunteer your tastelessness and thoughtlessness for free and just make people queesy.

    "And yet Olby reported on it the very day it happened."

    O.K. now you are in O'Reily territory. Did you even bother to check if that was remotely true? Because it isn't.

    "Did you even bother to check if that was remotely true? Because it isn't."

    And you can prove that how? Tell me why a Lexis/Nexis search for the day her story broke comes up with a hit for the name "Jill Carroll" on the show: Countdown. Did you even bother to check if what you are saying is true? Now you are in Olbermann territory for sure.

    The local public access show detailing the lunches being served for the weekat the old folks' homes in town beats Olbermann in the ratings.

    "Tell me why a Lexis/Nexis search for the day her story broke..."

    Because you idiot, the story didn't break until several days after it happened. You are really messed up dude. Note to rabid partisan attack dog: Things happen in the real world even when you can't see them on that magic box in your living room.

    If you are vaguely interested in seeing the news all the big people read instead of the childish comedy trash you argue about all day, check out the series on the Christian Science Monitor.

    Wow anon, you answered your own question and don't even realize it. Read it again.

    "The local public access show detailing the lunches being served for the weekat the old folks' homes in town beats Olbermann in the ratings."

    HAHA...Yeah...it even beats it for breakfast, when the old folks don't even get up!! Olberman's ratings are zero times infinity infinity infinity.

    Well, idiot, Olby reported it didn't he? And stayed on the story day after day. He has deliberately NOT reported this story.

    It's amazing that Olbypologists get their panties in a bunch when all I did was ask a question. Why did Krazy Keith heavily report the Jill Carroll story and spike this one? Why the double standard?

    Forget it, you are a waste of time pal. You're bottom line is you think it is more honorable for Olberman to continue to report a story and make jokes about a network regardless of what that means for two human beings who's lives are in the balance. You can't understand a simple analogy and frankly I think you've lost your marbles.

    Bye

    John Zogby poll finds Americans are ill imformed.

    Who did Zogby interview, Meltdown viewers or Mo Rocca fan???(s)?????.....Or both of them?....And how crowded was the phonebooth?

    Well puck, I as a garbage you have not leanred much about how polls work. Here I suggest you read this.


    http://www.queensu.ca/cora/documents/pollingisuma.pdf#search=%22how%20polls%20work%22

    Here it is again.

    Well puck, I see as a garbage you have not learned much about how polls work. Here I suggest you read this.


    http://www.queensu.ca/cora/documents/pollingisuma.pdf#search=%22how%20polls%20work%22

    The discredited Keith Olbermann gave heavy, repeated coverage of a newspaper reporter kidnapped by terrorists in Iraq. Yet for three days straight he has not uttered one word about

    Keith has never been discredited although i know you sure wish that were the case.

    Well if being caught in multiple lies doesn't discredit someone, then you truly do live on OlbyPlanet.

    Zogby, the islam apologist, about as neutral a pollster as they come. Hah!

    Maybe he should poll middle eastern nations about the koran, e.g., HAVE YOU EVER READ THE KORAN YOURSELF? CAN YOU READ AT ALL?
    Answers: No, but my imam down at the wahhabi mosque has. & No, why should I have to read?

    HAHAHAHA what a fucking moron. Here Since you are obviously so dumb let me help you out.

    you could:

    a: Argue the poll was unscientifc. (Good luck there)

    b: perhaps show a counterpoll (maybe you can find one where the approval rating is 37%)

    c: Look in the mirror and say " am the stupidest person in the world and it is time to educate myself" The educate yourslef about polls.

    Well if being caught in multiple lies doesn't discredit someone, then you truly do live on OlbyPlanet.

    Well it certainly has discredited BillO'Reilly, Ann Coulter and Sean Hannity hasn't it?

    DETROIT (AP) — A federal judge ruled Thursday that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional and ordered an immediate halt to it.

    Man the fuhrer can't do whatever he wants. So sad.

    10:32 was quite the smackdown.

    I'm not sure I understand the Olbyists beef. When the story became 'out' in the Carroll situation Olby covered it in sympathetic fashion. The Fox story is 'out' and Olby isn't covering it, sympathetic or otherwise.

    What do the number of days have to do with it? Kidnapped is kidnapped.

    Zogby, the islam apologist, about as neutral a pollster as they come. Hah!

    yeah right, Zogby's an Islam apologist, Olbermann's an Islam apologist, David Shuster is an Islam apologist, Chris Mathews is an Islam apologist, the main stream media is an Islam apologist, the Government Accountability Office is an Islam apologist, the democratic party is an Islam apologist.

    you guys are so full of shit. anyone who disagrees with your extremist views is an Islam apologist.

    well, here's another Islam apologist for you: a black, feminist, liberal, activist, federal judge. swift boat away you delluded, extremist morons. stoopid black feminist liberal activist judges.



    NSA EAVESDROPPING PROGRAM RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL
    Judge orders immediate halt to program

    DETROIT, Michigan (AP) -- A federal judge ruled Thursday that the government's warrantless wiretapping program is unconstitutional and ordered an immediate halt to it. U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit became the first judge to strike down the National Security Agency's program, which she says violates the rights to free speech and privacy.

    The American Civil Liberties Union filed the lawsuit on behalf of journalists, scholars and lawyers who say the program has made it difficult for them to do their jobs. They believe many of their overseas contacts are likely targets of the program, which involves secretly taping conversations between people in the U.S. and people in other countries.

    The government argued that the program is well within the president's authority, but said proving that would require revealing state secrets. The ACLU said the state-secrets argument was irrelevant because the Bush administration already had publicly revealed enough information about the program for Taylor to rule.

    Fox News also is not commenting daily on the kidnappings. Something to do with resolving the issue. It appears the media in general is respecting the Fox line on this. Can one blame Keith for taking advantage of this non-barking dog?

    Please ObserverDan, do not think that repeating something makes it true. Fox has reported on this kidnapping since it happened. Monday. Tuesday. Repeatedly on Wednesday. MSNBC reported on it. So did CNN. All the wire services. Newspapers. You name it. But Keith Olbermann, who didn't hesitate to report on the Jill Carroll case, has deliberately said nothing about this.

    I don't know why that is. I'm just wondering why the double standard.

    "U.S. District Judge Anna Diggs Taylor in Detroit became the first judge to strike down the National Security Agency's program"

    Carter appointee.

    Carter appointee.

    right, which means she's an islam apologist. moron.

    Better than being a big brother apologist like yourself. moron

    Liberals haven't figured out this Jihad thing yet. You know death to the infidel.


    Jihad:
    A Muslim holy war or spiritual struggle against infidels.

    Infidel:
    An unbeliever with respect to a particular religion.

    conservatives haven't quite figured out that we can fight the jihad with warrents.

    evidence of crime

    get a warrent


    See! you can protect yourself from govermental abuse of power and still fight terror.

    You don't even know what you are talking about.
    We have the capability to and do SAVE EVERY communication on the planet.
    Do you understand what that means asswipe. We are not talking about rotary telephone shit anymore. We can log EVERY communication in the WORLD. And you liberals should thank your lucky stars that YOU are NOT in charge of protecting the free world.

    Liberals are fighting every effort to protect the civilized world from Jihad. The ISLAMIC-FACISTS strap bombs to little infants. What more do you need to know about what their mission is.
    Death to you me and all the infidels you silly limp liberal!

    or maybe liberals could figure out

    datamap

    look for patterns(words like al queda, names of known terrorist trainers)

    investigate individual to see if they pose threat.


    or on the other hand,

    watch as guy blows something up

    then get warrent.

    i guess liberals are right, either way we catch the guy, huh.


    Liberal episode of "Law and Order"
    Free the terrorist because the police didn't count to 30 before breaking the door down to a bomb making house.
    Limp Lame Liberals= Friend of Jihad!

    You don't even know what you are talking about.
    We have the capability to and do SAVE EVERY communication on the planet.
    Do you understand what that means asswipe. We are not talking about rotary telephone shit anymore. We can log EVERY communication in the WORLD. And you liberals should thank your lucky stars that YOU are NOT in charge of protecting the free world.

    Liberals are fighting every effort to protect the civilized world from Jihad. The ISLAMIC-FACISTS strap bombs to little infants. What more do you need to know about what their mission is.
    Death to you me and all the infidels you silly limp liberal


    HUH? English motherfucker do you speak it.

    or maybe liberals could figure out

    datamap

    look for patterns(words like al queda, names of known terrorist trainers)

    investigate individual to see if they pose threat.

    That is the other illegal program stupid.

    Conservative episode of law and order.

    man is asleep in his house the door is broke down. He freaks grabs his gun and shoots a cop who mistook for an intruder. Turns out the cops were supposed to be going into the other house, entered the worng on and got shot.

    based on a true story.

    maybe conservatives, who hate america so much they want to destry freedom, can figure out that if you don't have evidence that someone is up to know good then you can't bother. Gotta whole judicial system based on this. unamerican conservatives want to destry this

    these intelligence programs are important. To me, an offensive position against terrorism is WAY more pivitol to stopping terrorists than a defensive one.

    Its kind of like what joe biden said about iraq, (i'm paraphrasing) "you can put 100,000 troops in baghdad and it won't help secure the city".

    the same applies at home, sure you can put the national gaurd at the airport, fill important sites with thousands of security gaurds, spend billions checking every single piece of cargo at the ports, but we cannot protect everything all the time. It would be like we are just waiting around until something happens. I feel this is less effective than actively pursueing terroism.

    Honestly, if a group of would be hijackers were caught at the airport just before carrying out their plans, i would see that as a failure of the intelligence community. The government needs to go after these guys and catch them before they ever get to an operational stage. It sucks that we live in a world where we need the NSA spy program, but, clearly, we do need it.

    Olbermann has a nose for fake news! This Jonbenet killer story is a load of crap -- the bizarro who confessed is a sicko who craves attention (just like Olby).

    Anyone notice JonBenet's father's muted response? That guy is responding the way OJ would if they found the "true killers" of Nicole and Ron!

    Olby LOVES fake news, so he ran with this fake story. What a complete idiot.

    That is the other illegal program stupid.

    you're right, but the fact you call it illegal proves who here is stupid (and very nieve).

    the same applies at home, sure you can put the national gaurd at the airport, fill important sites with thousands of security gaurds, spend billions checking every single piece of cargo at the ports, but we cannot protect everything all the time. It would be like we are just waiting around until something happens. I feel this is less effective than actively pursueing terroism.

    If you want to remain in a free society a government has to have checks to its power. it is reasonable to say you have to go to a judge and say this guy is linked to bin laden give us a warrent. If you don't have the goverment can spy on you and me and there would be know way of knowing it.

    i agree with you kfk, sort of. I dont think that karr guy killed jonbenet ramsey. he appears sick and my guess is he became so obsessed with the case that he created this. I could be wrong but that is my initial reaction.

    Although i don't think the father did it.


    A lot of people may owe the ramsey's an apology if this guy is proved to be the killer though.
    ANyone see the south park episode where butter's parents try to kill him and then make up a story about how he was kidnapped. The ramsey's (as well as O.J.) show up and are blamed for killing Jonbenet. Matt and trey might feel bad about that.

    "Liberals are fighting every effort to protect the civilized world from Jihad. The ISLAMIC-FACISTS strap bombs to little infants. What more do you need to know about what their mission is.
    Death to you me and all the infidels you silly limp liberal

    HUH? English motherfucker do you speak it."


    You are as transparent as a pane of glass, troll. If I see one more lefty come on here and play the drunk-with-power, insane, right wing wack-o, I'll scream. You must have hung around Kos too long and think everyone on the right is as shrill and stupid as he is on the left.

    "Liberals are fighting every effort to protect the civilized world from Jihad. The ISLAMIC-FACISTS strap bombs to little infants. What more do you need to know about what their mission is.
    Death to you me and all the infidels you silly limp liberal

    HUH? English motherfucker do you speak it."


    You are as transparent as a pane of glass, troll. If I see one more lefty come on here and play the drunk-with-power, insane, right wing wack-o, I'll scream. You must have hung around Kos too long and think everyone on the right is as shrill and stupid as he is on the left.

    you're right, but the fact you call it illegal proves who here is stupid (and very nieve).

    in my opinion it is illegal, the court has not yet determined it to be so. We will see what happens. and I think you are the naive one. You are trusting your government with unchecked power and counting on them to never abuse it.

    Olbermann has a nose for fake news! This Jonbenet killer story is a load of crap -- the bizarro who confessed is a sicko who craves attention (just like Olby).

    So did just about every other media outlet. it was on the cover of USAToday.

    You stupid lame limp libs do not get it.
    If the ISLAMIC-TERRORISTS could deliver a nuke to NYC or Washington DC tomorrow they would do it without blinking an eye.

    We need TERROR PROFILING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You are as transparent as a pane of glass, troll. If I see one more lefty come on here and play the drunk-with-power, insane, right wing wack-o, I'll scream. You must have hung around Kos too long and think everyone on the right is as shrill and stupid as he is on the left.


    hey we will stop when you stop calling anyone who disagrees with the far right jihadist. You must have hung around Sean Hannity to long and think everyone is as fucking insane as he is.

    "It sucks that we live in a world where we need the NSA spy program, but, clearly, we do need it."

    Why? What particular part of it do you like. Do you really think after-the-fact oversight by the judiciary is a bad thing?

    I don't mind giving the feds a lot of leeway, but after the fact, I want to have some record of what they did and I want them to know that record is there. You want to sign a blank check to government power because you are scared. That is NOT a conservative position.

    You stupid lame limp libs do not get it.
    If the ISLAMIC-TERRORISTS could deliver a nuke to NYC or Washington DC tomorrow they would do it without blinking an eye.

    You fucking stupid right wingers don't get it if you have a reasonable reason to suspect someone it's not hard to get a warrent. if you monitor everyone you have a totalitarian society.


    He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither freedom nor security.

    Godamn fucking commie Ben Franklin

    "You stupid lame limp libs do not get it.
    If the ISLAMIC-TERRORISTS could deliver a nuke to NYC or Washington DC tomorrow they would do it without blinking an eye.

    We need TERROR PROFILING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"


    Ooooo....nick the troll is so scared and panicked he is hitting the exclamation mark 20 times. Because all right wingers are scared little girls, right "nick?"

    Beat it troll. We see through you.

    We need TERROR PROFILING NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    yeah, but we cant let our gaurd down on non muslims though. Non muslims may be less likely to carry out a terrorist attack, but they are just as capable.

    Plus, i think they are using profiling and are just saying they aren't to avoid legal action from groups like the ACLU or muslim leagues. Yes, profiling is illegal, but come on.

    O.K. let's drop the act. I have a feeling everyone on here is an Olberman supporter and we just pretend to be crazy rightwing nuts and then respond to our own posts.

    Show of hands. How many of us are really think GW is the worst president in history?

    worst. president. ever.

    check.

    yeah, but you don't even know if they are profiling arabs. that is the whole point it could be anybody. that is the problem of no goverment record. no judical oversite. it is dangerous.

    lets give this addministration the benefit of the doubt and assume their intentions are as pure as honey and we trust them with that power. Who is to say the next guy of either party is not going to use it to spy on their political oppents. I mean what is to stop them? No court oversite. It is treasonous to leak details of the program to the press. i don't trust this administration because I see an unprecedented power grab, but hey if you do take a second to imagine this power in someone's hands you think is unethical. hell for the fun of it imagine keith olbermann is president you don't trust him. would you be comfortable with him having the power to tap phones with no oversite at all?


    Heh. Guilty.

    "Why? What particular part of it (NSA) do you like."

    The part where they keep people from blowing shit up.

    "You want to sign a blank check to government power because you are scared. That is NOT a conservative position."

    No, i want them to be able to do what they need to do. I am all for them keeping records, but NOT if it in any way prevents them from doing their job, which is protecting americans.

    I would honestly rather have them do it illegaly (which it isn't) than have the whole program shut down because some dipstick slaps them with a lawsuit because they accidently tapped his phone (because his name was similar to someone else or something stupid like that).

    No, I'm really a rightwinger, but I thought it would make the left look bad if I impersonated one of them impersonating a right winger.

    I have much time...

    Terrorists get all their intel from the liberal MSM and the NYT.....and get laughs from Countdown with Krazy Keith just like the rest of us.....lol.

    "No, i want them to be able to do what they need to do. I am all for them keeping records, but NOT if it in any way prevents them from doing their job, which is protecting americans."

    So you don't know much about the program then, eh? Well, I guess that's fine. It means you're not a traitor, because it is illegal for you to know about it.

    You sir, are a simply a scardy-cat. Plain and simple.

    Fuck you pal. I'm not letting one of those dirty brown people take me out. Ick! I get all squishy just thinking about it. I need someone to protect me from the Islamo-scarries.

    oh come on. that is just sad.

    Terrorists get all their intel from the liberal MSM and the NYT.....and get laughs from Countdown with Krazy Keith just like the rest of us.....lol.


    Well in fairness Geraldo gave them troop postions.

    I'm outta here.

    I'm gay, that's why I love Oberman!

    posting with my name, real adult 2:59. why argue the issues when you can call me scared and post using my name. it saves you from getting your ass handed to you.

    Oh by the way, nice touch making me sound racist.

    You know you are a rascist.

    Typical liberal. Can't make arguments, so you try to take the ball and go home. What a baby.

    lay off newguy. He is on the right but he is having a discussion. He is not calling anyone names or questioning their patriotism he is just disagreeing.

    pick on nick all you want though :)

    I do? well, thank you for telling me.

    I point it out and yet you continue to post with my name. Yet at 3:08, you appear to be making my arguments. Are you okay, fake newguy?

    I love it. Look, if you want to make my arguments for me, go right ahead. I can use all the clones I can get.

    let's cut the crap. if you liberals want to tell me why we shouldn't be profiling arabs and anyone else the NSA thinks is a threat (ring a bell, wetbacks?) then go right ahead. But don't ruin the conversation with theis crap.

    you are pathetic. I've never used the term "wetback" in my life. I think we see who the rascist is.

    Is it true that most of the anonymous posts here are Krazy Keith's friend's, family, and interns from the doomed Countdown to cancellation?
    I heard this from anonymous high ranking sources.Just like how the MSNBC primetime lineup gets their info.

    oooo...look at me....my name is newguy and I have important opinions about blah blah blah that are going to save the world from the boogeymen!

    Whooooooo hoooooo look at me on the internets! Liberal media can't stop me now.

    yes nick. is it also true that you want to rub falafels between O'Jackoff's quivering splotchy thighs?

    Hey! Did someone say falafel? Gay falafel orgy? I'm in!

    Ewwww. Falafel Bill in gay sex orgies!

    Falalalala, la la la...fel

    I think big Billy wants to have a war on Christmas falafels.

    Hey! how can we talk about important life-altering topics all day like how the bad men want to get us if there are so many posts about falafels?

    Where is the deluded left-nut insanity of Bushywushy?

    Maybe the falafels are out to get us too. They pose as loofahs in our gay-boy intern's shower, then when we go to molest them like all good catholics do, they douse us in liquid explosive.

    Hey! That's not liquid explosive!

    We need profiling of these falafels now!!! We need to know where all the falafels are at all times so they can't blast us with "liquid explosive."

    Thanks kiddo! I knew you could do it! Bushywushy, you da man! Your special class must be so proud!

    a falafel is:

    A. A derogatory term for a towell-headed sandmoney
    B. Bubba Bill O'Lieley's preferred sex partner
    C. Bubba Bill O'Lieley's molesting partner's prefered sex partner

    you people stop joshing me....assnonymous you asshat...you porve it evryday that you have no brains and got your GED on the internet...stop eating if you wan to lose waite...i love elippses so much i wish i could marry them.......

    hey quizman, you mean sandmonKey? Ha your so stoopid you can't even spell. You probbably are a sandmonkey.

    Awwww, mushywushy, don't cry. The Wiggles come back on TV tomorrow!

    May nahme is fartsy from the seventh brigade of Iraqi terrorist sandmonkeys

    hi fartsy! welcome

    mah cheeken had little babies so I make them eat liquid explosive and hop over to oter cheekens at my naybors and blow dem up.

    ha. another glorius vittory for fartsy!

    congratulations fartsy. that was a shrewd move.

    don profile fartsy! i only blow you up of you laing eggs to compete wit fartsy. jes let fartsy have egg concessions and all is safe on you plane.

    no snakes too. ick. fartsy hat snakes

    Breaking News:
    25-54 demo (ls) Wednesday

    O'Reilly 8pm -708
    O'Reilly 11pm-468
    O'Reilly 04am-211
    Krazy Keith 8pm-167

    Bill O... King of Cable News
    Krazy Keith....posterboy for primetime failure.


    hehehehehehehhehehehheheheheheheheheh.....lol.

    Whoooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Ratings win!!! Bill is watched by the whole fucking world and orangeboy is watched by only his mother and pointy headed fuckers who count beans all day!

    farsty take this opatunity to extend congradlations to mr orieley. I never blow you up with explosive cheeken baby.

    Jesus loves a winner!

    If more people watch you, it means you are a more valuable person. That is why Jesus has favored you by making so many people love you so much.

    REPUBLICAN SWEEEEEEP!!!!! IRAN IS NEXT!!!!!!!

    Nick I'm going to post an IQ test here pretty soon. I'd like you to answer all the questions. we're doing an experipent to see if a monkey that has been fed crack since birth will score higher than the average conservative. I have picked you because I know koko can beat you and it significantly increase our grant funding for ape research if it does. can we count on you to be yourself when taking this test?

    orangeboy is watched by only his mother and pointy headed fuckers who count beans all day!


    Johnny dollar does spend a lot of time watching keith

    hey god,

    religion is slowly (but surely) being weaned out of America. It's what comes with an advancing society.


    Primitive cultures put more faith in gods and magic while the more advanced cultures rely on facts, instead of fantasies. And the same way that you see godlessness as Satan worshipping that your god will send the sky crashing down upon while He saves His believers taking them back to Heaven with Him to be Angels in the sky forever.... well, we see it as being really silly.

    Say your breath shit for brains.
    I am a refugee from today's Democratic Party.
    The thought of Dean, Kerry, Edwards, Sharpton, Hilary, Kennedy and rest of the Loony FAR Left scares the shit out of me.
    The Loony Left couldn't even support Israel in the war. That is Scary!!!!

    STEEL CAGE MATCH

    "You stupid lame limp libs do not get it -- If the ISLAMIC-TERRORISTS could deliver a nuke to NYC or Washington DC tomorrow they would do it without blinking an eye."

    vs.

    "You fucking stupid right wingers don't get it if you have a reasonable reason to suspect someone it's not hard to get a warrant -- if you monitor everyone you have a totalitarian society."


    * * * * *


    basically, this entire argument boils down to this: The right would sacrifice liberty for security, while the left would not. and this fundamental disagreement is succinctly captured by comparing and contrasting the following two statements:

    "Give me liberty or give me death." -- Patrick Henry

    "You don't have civil liberties when you're dead." -- Sen Pat Robers, (R) Kansas


    * * * * *


    on the one hand, liberals and Patrick Henry would argue that it is better to lose your life, and even possibly the country, rather than lose your liberty ("He who sacrifices liberty for security deserves neither." -- Ben Franklin)

    while on the other hand, conservatives and Pat Roberts would argue that it is better to lose your liberty than lose your life, or the country. ("Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice." -- Barry Goldwater)


    * * * * *


    now, here's the tricky part. many conservatives argue that we have lost no liberties of late, or at least none to worry about. while most liberals would say we have lost some very important liberties and the loss of any is a dangerous slippery slope that would eventually lead to losing all liberties (because as the framers of the constitution well knew, all governments abuse power ad infinitum, if you let them). and conservatives can relate to the slippery slope argument, because they apply it to the gun control issue.


    * * * * *


    so where does that leave the debate? as always, it leaves it in the hands of the voters at the ballot box (as long as it's not a Diebold machine. Ha!)

    but seriously folks, each voter's decision regarding this issue rests upon the side on which you choose to err, and by that i mean:

    • Do you wish to err on the side of caution in preserving the country at the cost of liberty?
           OR
    • Do do you wish to err on the side of caution in preserving liberty at the cost of the country?

    and i believe the answer to this conundrum can be found in the presidential oath of office itself -- which does not charge the president with protecting the country (as bush has often mistated), but charges him with protecting the constitution:

    "I do solemnly swear that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States."


    * * * * *


    what say ye?


    Here is something to think about for those of you (like Olbermann) who continue to bellow about Israel's "disproportionate" response in it's attacks on Hezbollah. First, here's the latest idiocy from former President and peanut man, Jimmah Carter:

    From an interview with the German magazine Der Spiegel (August 15)
    Carter: No, as a matter of fact, the concerns I exposed have gotten even worse now with the United States supporting and encouraging Israel in its unjustified attack

    Now, while you hold that thought, ponder this:

    "When the Israelis capture Arabs in their wars, the captured Arabs are well fed, well housed, and eventually returned to their homes. When the Arabs (specifically the Syrians) have captured Israelis, they castrate them, cut off their male organs, decapitate the Israelis, and stuff their male organs in their mouths and leave the bodies on the field. Sometimes they also defecate on the bodies."

    http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=10192

    Now you may resume practicing your Nazi salute as demonstrated to you by your Orange Hero.

    >>Say your breath shit for brains.
    ??I am a refugee from today's Democratic Party.
    >>The thought of Dean, Kerry, Edwards, Sharpton, >>Hilary, Kennedy and rest of the Loony FAR Left >>scares the shit out of me.
    >>The Loony Left couldn't even support Israel in >>the war. That is Scary!!!!


    Well Koko beat you Nick! Whew! We were kind of worried because she was tweakin' pretty bad. (Long time since she had that last hit of crack) but she buckled down and really concentrated.

    We are very proud of her. She showed a much greater understanding of the NSA issue and beat you hands down on mideast policy.

    So there you go. A cracked out monkey is smarter than the average conservative. although some have suggested that nick is far below the norm. we will see if through further testing if this is true.

    GOT CRACK?

    "Say your breath shit for brains.
    I am a refugee from today's Democratic Party.
    The thought of Dean, Kerry, Edwards, Sharpton, Hilary, Kennedy and rest of the Loony FAR Left scares the shit out of me.
    The Loony Left couldn't even support Israel in the war. That is Scary!!!! "

    Posted by nick at August 17, 2006 04:47 PM




    I said her. meaning your wife the crack monkey.

    O'Reilly watched by the whole f'n world? Are you insane? What is wrong with you people? Thousands dead. Millions unemployed. Half of middle Americans without health care, and you lunatics have nothing better to do than bash an articulate news reporter who actually tells it like it is. You people really know how to hate, don't you. You've brought it to an art form.

    O'Reilly watched by the whole f'n world? Are you insane? What is wrong with you people? Thousands dead. Millions unemployed. Half of middle Americans without health care, and you lunatics have nothing better to do than bash an articulate news reporter who actually tells it like it is. You people really know how to hate, don't you. You've brought it to an art form.

    Nick are incapable of making an argument of some kind?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAH look it's nick what an idiot!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAH look it's that HAHAHAHAHAHAH idiot! Read any good Tolstoy lately?
    Sooooo literate! HAHAHAHAHAHAH

    MUSHYWUSSY, you are so transparent.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAH look it's that HAHAHAHAHAHAH idiot! Read any good Tolstoy lately?
    Sooooo literate! HAHAHAHAHAHAH


    Much more than you! HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Hey, I can see your HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and up it to HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA any day!

    Hey Nick,
    Can you do Olbermann dressed as the Jihadi he is?

    Hey Nick,
    Can you do Olbermann dressed as the Jihadi he is?

    ok this is getting confusing which idot is pat so that i kow who to laugh at at? I'll laugh at them all that is the ticket.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA and raise you a HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    Hey we need a picture of bush that is the crack monkey. got the monkey ears and loves cocaine!!

    My God I wish I was as easily amused and thought I was as brilliant as these Olybloons do. Do you people have jobs? Lives? Do you do anything other than go to site to site to protect and defend your Leader, Herr Olbermann? Is he paying you perhaps? If so, you might want to ask for a raise or he might want to look into getting some better help because you people and your juvenile tactics are really wearing quite thin on the rest of us.

    HAHAHAHHA that argument is a pat argument.

    Olbermann is more embarassed by his protectors than he is angred by his detractors.

    angered

    Even money says this douchebag sits behind his desk tonight with a HUGE boner,,,NSA wiretaps "illegal"

    Wouldn't be surprised to see that gasbag Turley on discussing how the suspected terrorists have had their rights "raped" by this administration.

    They will hard all night

    I think tonight's show could be very interesting. I was shocked by how much time he spent in last night's show on the Ramsey case.

    Maybe Abrams is asserting himself in his new position. I'm sure Keith wants to talk about the NSA court ruling tonight. Abrams probably wants him to talk about the Ramsey case. Who's really in charge? I think tonight's show will be very telling.

    Jill Carrol was never in any danger. A google of her writings show her to be sympathetic to terrorists. She can get there story out. In fact she did before being taken. I am not ashamed to say I hoped for the worst for her, because in my eyes she had earned it.

    When DU and KOS side against a FOX reporter who is kidnapped at least we know they are being honest. Anything else from them would be insincere. They are the Nazi like Facsists in the US of A. Not BO, not consevatives, but liberals. Just listen when they speak and you will here it. Listen.....FOX News is bad for US of A. See i told you. Islam's war and hate was created by Bushie and Co. Hear it. Southerners are Hillbillys. Intolerant. Rush Limbaugh is a drug addict. Non-Compassion. ETC.....

    Liberals are the baby killers of the late 20th century and early 21st century. Think Abortion!! Now that is Hitleresque. Appeasement is going to get more people killed in the long run than standing and fighting now will. The lines are drawn......Who will win........GOOD or EVIL !!!!

    "yeah, but you don't even know if they are profiling arabs. that is the whole point it could be anybody. that is the problem of no goverment record. no judical oversite. it is dangerous.

    lets give this addministration the benefit of the doubt and assume their intentions are as pure as honey and we trust them with that power. Who is to say the next guy of either party is not going to use it to spy on their political oppents. I mean what is to stop them? No court oversite. It is treasonous to leak details of the program to the press. i don't trust this administration because I see an unprecedented power grab, but hey if you do take a second to imagine this power in someone's hands you think is unethical. hell for the fun of it imagine keith olbermann is president you don't trust him. would you be comfortable with him having the power to tap phones with no oversite at all?


    Posted by: Anonymous at August 17, 2006 02:51 PM"

    Wow our history books are like so weak. "Un- precedented power grab" Just a quick history lesson. I'll keep it simple. Roosevelt interns (think imprison) people of Japanese descent.
    Drops 2 nukes on Japan. Now that was "power"ful. Data mining is just a little less dramatic and you cant site ANY abuses. And this white house cant keep a secret with all the traitors afoot. So don't give me the well they happen but nobody can talk about it.

    Wow our history books are like so weak. "Un- precedented power grab" Just a quick history lesson. I'll keep it simple. Roosevelt interns (think imprison) people of Japanese descent.
    >Drops 2 nukes on Japan. Now that was "power"ful. >Data mining is just a little less dramatic and >you cant site ANY abuses. And this white house >cant keep a secret with all the traitors afoot. >So don't give me the well they happen but nobody >can talk about it.

    talk about missing th3 point

    as a garbage you have not learned much about how polls work.

    Man what an intellect!

    Well at least I made it through English class, but you probibly went through an outcome-based public school.

    Zogby, Folks wasn't this the guy that two days before the election in 04' said Kerry was up by like 15 points? When everybody else had it a dead heat? Oh yeah, that Zogby.

    So glad I'm disturbing you ass. But I digress.

    as a garbage you have not learned...........

    I missed that class in college, gee too bad I could have grown up to be a mister know it all just like you.

    as a garbage you have not learned........

    By the way how is your hambuger flipping job? No I take that back, you're very smart. You must be a stock clerk doing over nights at Home-Depot.

    Now go back to Mr. Olbermann and find another dopey website for me to laugh at.

    Hey here's one for you and Keith,and bushypantieboy. And I want you to take it to heart, please.

    www.thekidfrombrooklyn.com/video_disp.asp?videoid=1077

    And you don't even have to use compuserve to open it.

    cheers!

    I know. I know. I'm a bad man!

    Everybody else, say a prayer for Steve Centanni and the camera guy. Olby could have shown class by saying something however small. BUT OLBY! HAVE CLASS?????

    Where are those Karl Rove indictments? Bushy. Karl Rove? Indictments? Hello?

    The scoreboard wed July 16 2006

    Total viewers:

    O'Reilly: 2,119,000

    Paula Zhan: 870,000

    Nancy Grace: 613,000

    Dopey Olbey: 492,000 Last place! Bottom! Dead Last! Bottom Garbage Feeder!

    Ya know the Loons call me a garbage man but, they kneel at the alter of a bottom garbage feeder, last place cable host. Interesting!!!!!

    Oh in case you ask? He was last in the demos too!

    "Total viewers:

    O'Reilly: 2,119,000

    Paula Zhan: 870,000

    Nancy Grace: 613,000

    Dopey Olbey: 492,000 Last place! Bottom!"

    Let me guess these numbers came from FOX, O'Reilly has poked fun at Olbermann's ratings forever, sort of like the person whose a one-trick pony & only tells the same joke over & over & over again....Keith's been on over 3 years now, & likely is not going anywhere anytime soon....

    Olbermann's audience grows smaller by the day. It's not uncommon at all for MSNBC's taped programs to beat him in the ratings. While Keith's lunatic fringe group of desperate fans continues to try to distract from Olbermann's history of distortion, lying, and pathetic "reporting", not to mention his off-air antics, the public isn't as stupid as they apparently are and appear to be growing increasingly weary of Olbermann's antics. It won't be long before MSNBC feels the same and cans his ass. It's long overdue.

    No, those numbers came from you're boy over at tvnewser. an Olby hack.

    Oh oh! got ya with you're own numbers.

    One trick pony. I like that. you keep thinking that.

    Loons are so smart. Why did they use an old, tired, "those must be fox's numbers" line. Wow! must be slipping. again.

    Did you see where XM-Radio is dropping MSNBC from it's line-up in Sept. and also in Sept. Air-America is moving to a 5,000 watt (weaker) radio station in New York.

    Ground swell of liberal thought? More like the earth is begining to crack under the feet of the loons.

    "O'Reilly has poked fun at Olbermann's ratings forever . . ."

    No, not the case. BOR has really ignored Orange Boy for the last several months with very rare exceptions. You don't need to give a man who is hanging himself more rope.

    Olby's most deperate wish is that BOR would respond to his pathological obsessions about O'Reilly. If there really was a a two way feud, you would have seen O'Reilly highlight the letter sent to Orange Boy by the ADL admonshing him for using the Nazi salute, but O'Reilly is content to let Olbermann continue to slip slide away into ratings oblivion as more and more viewers of Meltdown become former viewers, disgusted with his one sided propaganda megaphone for the Sheehan/Murtha/Moore loonies.

    It's not just Lefties that watch Olbermann. It's also the Sleeper Jihadi cells of Hizb'Allah and Al-Qaeda. Since Al Jazeera and Al-Mansur isn't available, Olbermann will have to do!

    For the above post.....Oh my God!!!!!!!!!!

    I know. I know. I'm a bad man!

    No, just a very stupid one.

    Man what an intellect

    I don't think you have much business attacking anyone's intellect. You have to learn to make a coherent argument first. No Stick to what you do best, which is overeating and waste disposal

    Man! What an intellect!

    Attacking? Pot calling the kettle. but once again I'm glad I'm getting under your thin skin genius. By the way I heard you're buddy bushy gave you a Birthday party and you ate the cake sooo fast he had to open you're mouth just to blow out the candles.

    Man! What an intellect!

    When Loons like you get to using overeating and waste disposal over and over again, who's the one trick pony here Paul Simon? You think you sound coherent? People at www.wbai.org. laugh at you!

    Let me guess those numbers came from fox. Sorry Einstein, it was Neilson. Are you going to start yelling how they are right wing? Or tell us how polls don't work?

    Stick to what you do best simple mind numb robot, stay on the same attack! I don't want you're brain to smoke! Air-America needs the few listeners they have left.

    Man! what an intellect!

    Well, puck as a garbage you have not learned....

    Oh and stupid? Remember I passed English class.

    By the way I saw you're post came at 11:09a.m. do you get a break during the lunch rush at Burger King? Why Burger King? because loons always want it their way!

    Man! What an intellect!

    Ya know thats you're new name The Intellect I'm gona start to use that!

    Man! What an intellect!

    Yeah! I listen to Pacifica Radio. Bet ya that just knocked you face first into the deep fryer. But why did I post that? You don't even know what Pacifica Radio is!!!!!
    www.wbai.org = pacifica radio. You could be a blonde loon from Rio Linda, CA

    Man What an intellect!

    I would stay but, it's off to late night co-ed racket-ball.

    Cheers! Intellect. And keep those brilliant posts comming!!!!!!!