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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    August 8, 2006
    OlbyWatch Getting Results: ADL Condemns Olbermann Nazi Salute; Says KO Trivializes Holocaust

    As Keith Olbermann continues to adopt a holier-than-thou attitude in criticizing Mel Gibson's drunken, anti-semetic rant, the Anti-Defamation League has published an open letter to Keith Olbermann condemning him for his callous, pre-planned invocation of Adolph Hitler at the recent TCA conference in Pasadena, CA.

    Citing "complaints from our constituents, including Holocaust survivors and their families", the ADL says KO's "repeated use of the Nazi salute" is "offensive and repugnant in any context" and called on Olbermann to "reconsider" his "use of the Nazi salute".

    We believe that the use of gestures and imagery associated with the Nazis – even in jest – only serves to trivialize the Holocaust and denigrate the memory of the six million Jews and others who died as a result of Hitler's Final Solution.

    This is my email to the ADL on July 23rd, 2006

    ===========================

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I was wondering if you would care to comment on Keith Olbermann's behavior at the Television Critics Association event on Saturday?

    Robert Cox
    Editor
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    Olbermann's Nazi Salute
    http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/07/olbermanns_nazi.html

    As Islamo-Fascists fire rockets into Israel as part of their plan to wipe Israel off the face of the map, Keith Olbermann is thousands of miles away from the front lines entertaining his own band of shock troops - those psuedo-journalists who label themselves "TV Critics" - with a "hilarious" Nazi salute, hoping to equate the trouncing he is getting in the cable news ratings race with a genocide that saw the murder of 12 million people including more than 6 million Jews.

    ===========================


    Posted by Robert Cox | Permalink | Comments (34) | | View blog reactions
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    This is a good test to determine whether there is actually a "feud" between O'Reilly and Olbermann. If O'Reilly devotes an entire segment to this and, in Olbermann fashion, brings on an unchallenged guest to analyze how psychologically impaired Olbermann is, then maybe you can say there is a feud.

    I'm betting though that O'Reilly does not even mention this on his show, allowing Olbermann to twist in the wind. This would reaffirm my contention that the alleged "feud" between O'Reilly and Olbermann is a one-sided series of jealous outbursts by Olbermann against his vastly superior competition, BOR.

    Dear Sir or Madam,

    I was wondering if you would care to comment on Mel Brooks' outrageous musical comedy "The Producers", which swept the 55th annual Tony Awards, winning a record 12 awards.

    To quote Mr. Brooks, "Rhetoric does not get you anywhere, because Hitler and Mussolini are just as good at rhetoric. But if you can bring these people down with comedy, they stand no chance."

    Robert Cox
    Editor
    Olbermann Watch


    The Producers On Tour
    http://www.producersontour.com/

    You mean as psychologically impaired as the person who believes that Keith as a newsman is somehow similar to Mel Brooks, an artist? Sorry charlie, no one is buying that weak ass argument but you Olbyloons. Try again. And this time use your own name instead of Bob's okay?

    I'm sure that this letter from the ADL will soon find it's way to the MSM before long.

    "But if you can bring these people down with comedy, they stand no chance."

    Olbermann does a poor imitation of a comedian and he isn't bringing down anybody. Olbermann himself has been brought down many different times in his various employment stopovers and MSLSD is just another in his long line of stopovers before he is either run off or storms out in a jealous hissy.

    "Today, as Islamo-Fascists fire rockets into Israel as part of their plan to wipe Israel off the face of the map, war is too important to be left to politicians. They have neither the time, the training, nor the inclination for strategic thought. I can no longer sit back and allow Islamo-Fascist infiltration, Islamo-Fascist indoctrination, Islamo-Fascist subversion and the international Islamo-Fascist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids."

    Looks like the ADL has now lumped Olbermann in with Mel Gibson - and true to form the OlbyLoons don't know what to say.

    Maybe you could try cartoons again?

    Olbyloons can be counted on to turn completely silent when their hero Orange Boy is caught once again in his latest hypocrisy. Whether he is taking O'Reilly to task for alleged boorish behavior towards the opposite sex or chiding others for using Nazi references against polticial opponents, our centerpiece boy at MSLSD once again plays out his life's motto: "Do as I say, not as I do"

    Does this better late than never reprimand from the ADL mean Keith will make himself "worst person in the world" tonight?

    I'll be surprised if he mentions it.

    I read the story @
    http://blog.americasnewstoday.com/2006/08/08/adl-antidefamation-league-destroys-keith-the-nazi-olbermann.aspx

    , and I needed to check you out guys, the ADL made my day today. :)

    That cartoon was okay but I'd still prefer the one with a Bush flag in a pile of crap. Are you Olby loons taking request tonight?

    oh oh,,,ADL to be WPITW????

    does KO have the balls?
    I doubt it

    Lets see, Olbermann did a Nazi salute to mock BOR. You put a Nazi salute animation on your site to mock Olbermann. Did you get the ADL to approve your graphic? As I posted on the original thread, I don't approve of either. By your own standard, you suck.

    This is Olbermann Watch, we don't HAVE standards.

    Want proof?

    Look in the mirror - you are allowed to post comments here.

    Hey hitescape, by your standards, shouldn't you be praising J$an RC for posting that hilarious piece of leftist satire by KKKeith Olbermann?

    A couple things:

    First, I have to concur (kind of) with the earlier post. I think you should just put KO's original Nazi salute picture up; why alter it? Let people see what he actually did the first time they come to visit this site.

    Second, Brian Stelter finally posted the link (kind of) to the ADL condemnation. BUT, it is quietly inserted at the bottom of a ticker entry, unlike the large, lengthy post Olbermann gets when he attacks a fellow journalist or when another commentator he doesn't like is criticized. Or, like the full post with pictures he devoted to a Daily Kos criticism, without initially disclosing that the site founder appears in commercials for Ned Lamont.

    Third, it doesn't matter anyway, because Drudge linked to this at around 8 p.m. and he gets more readers in an hour than Brian Stelter will in his lifetime.

    Does this kid really think the Anti-Defamation League criticizing a Nazi salute by Keith Olbermann will just go away?

    Yes. Yes I do.

    From Countdown msnbc website transcript dated:

    • June 22, 2005 | 12: 05 p.m. ET

    Enough with the Nazi references! (Keith Olbermann)

    LOS ANGELES - A message to Dick Durbin, Rick Santorum, and Robert Byrd - as they combine to delay my reports to you about the night I inadvertently offered Bill Clinton my New York City subway pass, and my experiences behind the scenes at "The Tonight Show," and my private eight minutes with Mary Carey.

    The message is this: Boys, just don’t say "Nazi" ever again in your life.

    There’s no place for the reference in this culture. Not about the Republican tactics, not about the Democratic tactics, not about Guantanamo Bay.

    The Republicans are not the SS, and the Democrats are not the Gestapo, and Gitmo is not Buchenwald.

    Apologize profoundly and profusely, burst into tears if you will, but the analogies are wrong, offensive, and deeply hurtful. And I speak as a European of protestant descent.

    More over, this particular moment in our history is no time to pour more ice into the crevices of our national political discourse. We have enough of the makings of fighting in the streets, enough of the rancor that preceded the caning of Senator Sumner on the floor of the Senate in 1856, without people throwing the devils of the 20th Century into the mix.

    In fact, it would be a really good idea, for the sake of the country, and to steer out of this skid of Party First and Country Second that now pervades both sides, if the three distinguished gentlemen resigned, or at least announced they would not run again. Because apologies or not, they are at best, carrying the disease of branding other American leaders - no matter how wrong-headed some of those "others" might seem to you - with the same kind of vitriol that enabled the rise of the Nazis in Germany.

    And the following day --

    June 23 2005 | 2: 35 p.m. ET

    Karl Rove on Maple Street (Keith Olbermann)

    NEW YORK — In the ravings of Karl Rove against liberals (and the ravings of liberals against Karl Rove), I am reminded of yet another in my endless supply of pop culture references: The Twilight Zone episode called "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street."

    As political allegory, it was pretty simple, but also very effective.

    Something, or someone, starts screwing with the lights and the electricity on an ordinary suburban street. Within minutes, the residents have concluded that aliens from outer space have invaded. As alliances and rivalries dissolve and re-form with incredible swiftness, these neighbors accuse each other of collusion with the invaders. One of them finally starts shooting. The director pulls back to a nearby hill, where sit two real aliens, one of whom sagely reminds the other that there's no need to actually attack any of these stupid humans — you can just scare them a little bit and then wait for them to tear themselves apart.

    Think of how we responded — politically — to 9/11. First there was overwhelming non-partisanship. Years of deteriorating relations between the parties vanished; were even apologized for. And within three years the Republicans were insisting that a Democratic presidential victory would mean more terrorist attacks. This year our "leaders" started the Nazi references — Senator Byrd first, Senator Santorum next, most recently Senator Durbin.

    And last night, Karl Rove slimed Durbin (and, of the Nazism invokers, only Durbin) and uttered the unforgettable line: "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."

    Two minor points. First, Rove's name goes on the list. I suggested here yesterday that if you start talking about the other party the way politicians did just before the Civil War, you're out. Senator Byrd? Retire. Senator Santorum? Quit please. Senator Durbin? The analogy was far too over the line to get back. Resign.

    And Karl? Start Roving.

    Second minor point. As a veteran of eight years in therapy, and a fascinated student of the process, it should be noted that people who publicly deride it tend to actually be those who know they need it most. Latent On-the-Couch-iality or something. Somewhere from deep inside Mr. Rove is screaming "get me a shrink."

    From Countdown msnbc website transcript dated:

    • June 22, 2005 | 12: 05 p.m. ET

    Enough with the Nazi references! (Keith Olbermann)

    LOS ANGELES - A message to Dick Durbin, Rick Santorum, and Robert Byrd - as they combine to delay my reports to you about the night I inadvertently offered Bill Clinton my New York City subway pass, and my experiences behind the scenes at "The Tonight Show," and my private eight minutes with Mary Carey.

    The message is this: Boys, just don’t say "Nazi" ever again in your life.

    There’s no place for the reference in this culture. Not about the Republican tactics, not about the Democratic tactics, not about Guantanamo Bay.

    The Republicans are not the SS, and the Democrats are not the Gestapo, and Gitmo is not Buchenwald.

    Apologize profoundly and profusely, burst into tears if you will, but the analogies are wrong, offensive, and deeply hurtful. And I speak as a European of protestant descent.

    More over, this particular moment in our history is no time to pour more ice into the crevices of our national political discourse. We have enough of the makings of fighting in the streets, enough of the rancor that preceded the caning of Senator Sumner on the floor of the Senate in 1856, without people throwing the devils of the 20th Century into the mix.

    In fact, it would be a really good idea, for the sake of the country, and to steer out of this skid of Party First and Country Second that now pervades both sides, if the three distinguished gentlemen resigned, or at least announced they would not run again. Because apologies or not, they are at best, carrying the disease of branding other American leaders - no matter how wrong-headed some of those "others" might seem to you - with the same kind of vitriol that enabled the rise of the Nazis in Germany.

    And the following day --

    June 23 2005 | 2: 35 p.m. ET

    Karl Rove on Maple Street (Keith Olbermann)

    NEW YORK — In the ravings of Karl Rove against liberals (and the ravings of liberals against Karl Rove), I am reminded of yet another in my endless supply of pop culture references: The Twilight Zone episode called "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street."

    As political allegory, it was pretty simple, but also very effective.

    Something, or someone, starts screwing with the lights and the electricity on an ordinary suburban street. Within minutes, the residents have concluded that aliens from outer space have invaded. As alliances and rivalries dissolve and re-form with incredible swiftness, these neighbors accuse each other of collusion with the invaders. One of them finally starts shooting. The director pulls back to a nearby hill, where sit two real aliens, one of whom sagely reminds the other that there's no need to actually attack any of these stupid humans — you can just scare them a little bit and then wait for them to tear themselves apart.

    Think of how we responded — politically — to 9/11. First there was overwhelming non-partisanship. Years of deteriorating relations between the parties vanished; were even apologized for. And within three years the Republicans were insisting that a Democratic presidential victory would mean more terrorist attacks. This year our "leaders" started the Nazi references — Senator Byrd first, Senator Santorum next, most recently Senator Durbin.

    And last night, Karl Rove slimed Durbin (and, of the Nazism invokers, only Durbin) and uttered the unforgettable line: "Liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers."

    Two minor points. First, Rove's name goes on the list. I suggested here yesterday that if you start talking about the other party the way politicians did just before the Civil War, you're out. Senator Byrd? Retire. Senator Santorum? Quit please. Senator Durbin? The analogy was far too over the line to get back. Resign.

    And Karl? Start Roving.

    Second minor point. As a veteran of eight years in therapy, and a fascinated student of the process, it should be noted that people who publicly deride it tend to actually be those who know they need it most. Latent On-the-Couch-iality or something. Somewhere from deep inside Mr. Rove is screaming "get me a shrink."

    It is "Adolf" not "Adolph" Hitler! Why do people keep making that mistake?

    The Anti-Defamation League penned a fairly soft plea to Keith Olbermann to quit using the "Sieg Heil" when referring to Bill O'Reilly.

    It's offending Holocaust survivors and others, they say. Fair enough. The voices of Holocaust survivors should be heeded with great care and tenderness -- as should the voices of other tragedies.

    However, first I'd like to see them. In their words. Then, I'd like for them to be introduced to O'Reilly's words. And THEN we can talk of curbing the "Sieg Heil."

    In a beautifully ironic twist...

    O'Reilly finds the ADL's standards to be too strict: "[H] called the ADL 'an extremist group that finds offense in pretty much everything'; and labeled ADL president Abraham Foxman 'a nut.'" Perhaps it's because the ADL told him to stop peddling one of the "oldest anti-semitic canards"?

    But here of some of O'Reilly's statements over the past couple of years, just about Jews. Which is to say nothing about Arabs, civil liberties, women and rape, the use of violence, and other Sieg Heil-worthy comments:


    In 2005, O'Reilly hosted jew-hating white supremacist David Duke as a commentator on Ward Churchill (note: it would be fine if he were on to discuss his Jew hating and if he were opposed by a sufficiently rational voice).
    Christmas 2004: O'Reilly to Jewish caller: "[I]f you are really offended, you gotta go to Israel"
    “There’s a very secret plan…to diminish Christian philosophy in the U.S.A”
    "[Is the outcry over The Passion because] the major media in Hollywood and a lot of the secular press is controlled by Jewish people?"
    "The New York Times is sitting this [conflict] out, absolutely sitting it out editorially. And I believe it's because they don't want to alienate their liberal Jewish base here in New York City. Am I wrong?"
    "George Soros. He's the moneyman behind it. It's a philosophy. Go on the websites and look at it. It's there. It's a secular, progressive..."
    "You have a very big split in the Jewish-American community. You got a lot of Jewish liberals, a lot of Jewish far-left people, who basically feel that, you know, you don’t have a right to go after terrorists because it’s our fault, the United States’ fault. And some say it’s Israel’s fault because we’ve been mean to them, therefore they have a right to do whatever they want — behead people on camera, all this terrible stuff. OK? That’s a far-left position."

    This all doesn't necessarily make O'Reilly a Nazi or completely justify Olbermann's Sieg Heils but it would be nice if every letter from the ADL of this nature would include reasons why a person might go so far... (MediaMatters, Forward, ADL)

    Evan Derkacz is a New York-based writer and contributor to AlterNet.

    12:03PM:

    You sound just like the rest of the Olbyloons and Kossacks: they blame the Jooooos for all of this. We should all just let Olby have his fun.

    This will only lead to KO either giving WPITW to:
    ADL
    Mr. Cox
    Mel Gibson (why? KO doesn't need a reason)
    BOR (it's BOR's fault that Olby did it! If only BOR wasn't so successful!)

    divi fili,

    The attached comments (from 12:03) were made by BOR, did you read the article...

    The ADL has complained against every other network and anchor as well. Including your beloved Fox.

    Bill O'Reilly
    The Radio Factor with Bill O'Reilly
    c/o Westwood One
    2020 M Street, NW
    Washington, DC 20036

    December 8, 2004

    Dear Mr. O'Reilly:

    We were deeply offended, as were many of your listeners who have contacted us, at your remark to a Jewish caller on the December 3 Radio Factor that, "if you are really offended" about attempts to convert Jews to Christianity, then "you gotta go to Israel then."

    American Jews are Americans. Jews and other religious minorities are part of America's great tradition of religious freedom. The discomfort with proselytizing, or the intrusion of Christian teachings in public schools, is a very legitimate concern.

    More dangerously, your remark plays into one of the oldest anti-Semitic canards about Jews, that they are not full citizens of a country and are not entitled to all of the rights afforded to the majority. The notion that religious minorities have no place in a Christian America and should leave may be acceptable for extremists, but it is unacceptable coming from a popular and respected media commentator.

    We hope that in future you will be more sensitive to these issues.


    Sincerely,

    Abraham H. Foxman
    National Director




    ADL Resources






    Interesting letter from Foxman, since O'Reilly did not say you gotta go to Israel if you're offended that people are trying to convert you. He said if you want to avoid the celebration of Christmas, which is a federal holiday, and it offends you, then you should go to Israel.

    The statement is a little much in either version, but Foxman obviously didn't hear it himself since he got it wrong.

    Since Robin can't defend Orange Boy's Nazi salute, she tries to dig up an 18 month old letter to BOR issued by the ADL admonishing O'Reilly for alleged insensitivity to Jews.

    What hogwash. A more reasonable interpretation of O'Reilly's comment to his disgruntled Jewish caller (to whom he suggested that he's "gotta go to Israel") is that religious freedom and freedom of expression under the First Amendment are cornerstones of this constitutional republic that we call the United States of America and if you want a protected sanctuary from evangelical Christians who might attempt to convert you from Judaism to Christianity, you can never expect our lawmakers to put the clamps on these folks so that the Jewish (and other religious minorities) will never have to hear such a spiel. So, O'Reilly was simply telling the listener that if his expectation is to be free from this sort of proseltyzing, "you gotta go to Israel", where (presumably) the chances of such widespread attempts to convert Jews to Chritsianty is much less.

    So, Robin THAT comment ("you gotta go to Israel") is your attempt to equate O'Reilly's "insensitivity" to Jews to Orange Boy's "Hiel Hitler" salute? Good lord. Instead of all these gyrations to try to draw some bogus moral equivalence between O'Reilly and the disgusting and amoral Orange Boy, why don't you spend some energy actually trying to defend you Orange Hero? Do you think the ADL's December 8, 2004 letter to O'Reilly was A-OK, but that the ADL should have ignored Olbermmann when he fired off the universal symbol of Jew hatred, the Nazi salute?

    Since Robin can't defend Orange Boy's Nazi salute,

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    no defense is necessary.
    mocking supporters of fascism with fascist salutes is the work of a patriot.
    supporting fascists like you do is the work of traitorous scum.
    if the founding fathers were around, they'd tar and feather your unconstitutional ass.

    Glad to see you removed the nazi animation at the top of the page. Thanks.

    In June 8, 2004 CNBC which along with MSNBC are all part of NBC fired financial commentator John Layfield also known as Pro-Wrestler JBL after he did some Nazi salutes at a Munich,Germany house show.Now if they fired him for those actions how in the world do they defend KO?

    Since Robin can't defend Orange Boy's Nazi salute, she tries to dig up an 18 month old letter to BOR issued by the ADL admonishing O'Reilly for alleged insensitivity to Jews.

    What hogwash. A more reasonable interpretation of O'Reilly's comment to his disgruntled Jewish caller (to whom he suggested that he's "gotta go to Israel") is that religious freedom and freedom of expression under the First Amendment are cornerstones of this constitutional republic that we call the United States of America and if you want a protected sanctuary from evangelical Christians who might attempt to convert you from Judaism to Christianity, you can never expect our lawmakers to put the clamps on these folks so that the Jewish (and other religious minorities) will never have to hear such a spiel. So, O'Reilly was simply telling the listener that if his expectation is to be free from this sort of proseltyzing, "you gotta go to Israel", where (presumably) the chances of such widespread attempts to convert Jews to Chritsianty is much less.

    So, Robin THAT comment ("you gotta go to Israel") is your attempt to equate O'Reilly's "insensitivity" to Jews to Orange Boy's "Hiel Hitler" salute? Good lord. Instead of all these gyrations to try to draw some bogus moral equivalence between O'Reilly and the disgusting and amoral Orange Boy, why don't you spend some energy actually trying to defend you Orange Hero? Do you think the ADL's December 8, 2004 letter to O'Reilly was A-OK, but that the ADL should have ignored Olbermmann when he fired off the universal symbol of Jew hatred, the Nazi salute?
    &&Since Robin can't defend Orange Boy's Nazi salute, she tries to dig up an 18 month old letter to BOR issued by the ADL admonishing O'Reilly for alleged insensitivity to Jews.

    What hogwash. A more reasonable interpretation of O'Reilly's comment to his disgruntled Jewish caller (to whom he suggested that he's "gotta go to Israel") is that religious freedom and freedom of expression under the First Amendment are cornerstones of this constitutional republic that we call the United States of America and if you want a protected sanctuary from evangelical Christians who might attempt to convert you from Judaism to Christianity, you can never expect our lawmakers to put the clamps on these folks so that the Jewish (and other religious minorities) will never have to hear such a spiel. So, O'Reilly was simply telling the listener that if his expectation is to be free from this sort of proseltyzing, "you gotta go to Israel", where (presumably) the chances of such widespread attempts to convert Jews to Chritsianty is much less.

    So, Robin THAT comment ("you gotta go to Israel") is your attempt to equate O'Reilly's "insensitivity" to Jews to Orange Boy's "Hiel Hitler" salute? Good lord. Instead of all these gyrations to try to draw some bogus moral equivalence between O'Reilly and the disgusting and amoral Orange Boy, why don't you spend some energy actually trying to defend you Orange Hero? Do you think the ADL's December 8, 2004 letter to O'Reilly was A-OK, but that the ADL should have ignored Olbermmann when he fired off the universal symbol of Jew hatred, the Nazi salute?

    Since Robin can't defend Orange Boy's Nazi salute, she tries to dig up an 18 month old letter to BOR issued by the ADL admonishing O'Reilly for alleged insensitivity to Jews.

    What hogwash. A more reasonable interpretation of O'Reilly's comment to his disgruntled Jewish caller (to whom he suggested that he's "gotta go to Israel") is that religious freedom and freedom of expression under the First Amendment are cornerstones of this constitutional republic that we call the United States of America and if you want a protected sanctuary from evangelical Christians who might attempt to convert you from Judaism to Christianity, you can never expect our lawmakers to put the clamps on these folks so that the Jewish (and other religious minorities) will never have to hear such a spiel. So, O'Reilly was simply telling the listener that if his expectation is to be free from this sort of proseltyzing, "you gotta go to Israel", where (presumably) the chances of such widespread attempts to convert Jews to Chritsianty is much less.

    So, Robin THAT comment ("you gotta go to Israel") is your attempt to equate O'Reilly's "insensitivity" to Jews to Orange Boy's "Hiel Hitler" salute? Good lord. Instead of all these gyrations to try to draw some bogus moral equivalence between O'Reilly and the disgusting and amoral Orange Boy, why don't you spend some energy actually trying to defend you Orange Hero? Do you think the ADL's December 8, 2004 letter to O'Reilly was A-OK, but that the ADL should have ignored Olbermmann when he fired off the universal symbol of Jew hatred, the Nazi salute?

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    Johnny No Sense Read your history that is the way Americans saluted the flag for years. But then again that means you have to read opposing view points. In addition, who knows if you can even read. Seig Heil is not the universal symbol of the anti semetism. There are far too many symbols to promote all hatred. You right wingers are all the same. Yeah you are so open minded with inclusion. PLEASE get real. For you and your friend Cock it all about keeping people in their place.