lol...another point of view. maybe he should see if that dana milbank will come on in a hunter's costume. or maybe he can get milbank to wear a dress this time.

Can you name one lie Olbermann has said about ABC's drama?

"Can you name one lie Olbermann has said about ABC's drama?"

On yesterday's show he claimed:

"It's [the movie] a blatant attempt to shift blame for the nightmare to the Democrats and the Democrats alone."

The movie also blames the Bush Administration for failing to take actions to prevent 9/11. There is no "Democrats and the Democrats alone" aspect to the program.

SMG

How about saying it blames "Democrats and Democrats alone" for 9/11. I even linked to that statement. And you couldn't bother to click your mouse.

Hey,

Now that I am full time on this blog, how much do I get paid?

Who wants to bet that ABC winds up editing out all the Democrat objections, and leaving the Bush Administration holding the bag? That is what the Dems want, and hopefully not what they'll get. The Dems have always been the true anti-free speech party.

Who wants to bet that ABC winds up editing out all the Democrat objections, and leaving the Bush Administration holding the bag? That is what the Dems want, and hopefully not what they'll get. The Dems have always been the true anti-free speech party.

I am so buying 100 copies of this movie in it's original format. I want to know what the big secret is that the dems are hiding. I think it has something to do with all that stuff Sandy Burglar stole from the National Archives and stuffed into his g-string or his socks.

I just saw Sandy Berger on CNN and man did he sound desperate. I also saw Tom Kean and he made a point that really gets to the heart of the matter - the story covers the period from WTC I and WTC II which is almost entirely the Clinton Administration. Setting aside the "fake" segments, the real problem is that the Clinton Administration has done everything he can to seperate themselves from 9/11 and this film is going to have a very powerful effect. That every decision made under Clinton will be presented as another missed opportunity and even if ABC took out the scenes that Berger and Albright have complained about that aspect of the story will remain.

Variety magazine is reporting that the comedy may be cancelled altogether... goood riddance..

Sean Hannity is talking to the author THIS MINUTE, and he believes the film will be shown intact. More to follow...

That was fast. Now it sounds like editing has occurred.

We'll have to wait and see...

I am sure the OlbyLoons do not want ANY account of the Clinton Administration's efforts on terror in the years before 9/11 to ever air anywhere because there is NO account that is going to make their decisions look good in light of what happened - and they want people to forget that. You can scream all you want about how 9/11 happened on Bush's watch but the fact remains that Clinton was in office for 8 years after WTC I. To be fair to Clinton, he did have successes under his administration but the fundamental problem - Clinton's conflict foreign policy coming out of the Somalia debacle - is at the root of all that followed. Had Clinton been willing to act unilaterally to defend American interests he would have been far more aggressive in pursuing al Qaeda.

I love the idea that the media has beaten the crap out of Bush to "admit" his mistakes and yet when Wolf Blitzer asked Sandy Berger what he would have done differently knowing what he now knows he would not provide a single example. When Bush does it is arrogance or stuborness or blindness. What is what Clinton, Berger and Albright do it?

Hannity was running a clip from his radio show earlier in the day, not a live interview. Not that it matters.

J$ or RC, any chance of seperating the threads from critiques of Olbermann's show and everything else?

u mean you want one thread to discuss Path to 9/11?

anyone else want that?

Well, it seems like the show critiques always get sidetracked. I dunno. Just a thought.

Well, it seems like the show critiques always get sidetracked. I dunno. Just a thought.

Well, it seems like the show critiques always get sidetracked. I dunno. Just a thought.

I have to say that the most perplexing thing about this movie is to find Dems/Libs frothing at the mouth over a show being aired on ABC. Judging from some of the reaction I have seen, many Republicans really don't know what do when Hollywood is being accused of Conservative bias. To me this seems like a bit of a "taste of your own medicine". Maybe now that the Dems are on the receiving end of getting screwed over by these Hollywood types they will not be so quick to dismiss GOP concerns next time (not!).

I humbly apologize for ending up in triplicate. It was not intentional.

bigirv...

triplicate is a big offense here...

we will let it slide this time, since it was unintentional and you provided a proper apology.

let this be a lesson to anyone thinking about posting in triplicate.

:)

Yes, Kean and Berger on CNN. That was incredible.

However, on tonight's show I thought KO reached something of a peak. A lot of points and very little support.

Maybe along with your Mister Meter you should add a Points-to-Support Ratio.

Well KO's book is still out of the Amazon top-100,and this is going to be 9/11 weekend,so it's going to be fun to see what happens Mon.when his book is released.

Bob,

This little Clinton tantrum against ABC reminds me of a previous tantrum. Remember the time Billy attacked Petey Jennings (video link below -- a must see!):

http://www.dailyrecycler.com/blog/2004/11/buck-stops-with-ken-starr.html

bigirv,

Yes, it does matter, and thank you! I had H & C on the TV on my computer, just listening while looking at this site, and flipped to the video portion for a second and thought it was live. Then they went to a Fox News Alert (because they caught the cop killer in NY), and when they came back, no Hannity tonight!

Thanks for clearing that up. And sorry I posted erroneously.

Hmmm...

I must give credit where credit is due. Peter Jennings wasn't throwing snowballs.

Robert Cox:

"You can scream all you want about how 9/11 happened on Bush's watch but the fact remains that Clinton was in office for 8 years after WTC I."

And? The Clinton Administration captued all but one of the terrorists who perpetrated that crime (including Ramzi Yousef, the alleged ringleader). The only one who escaped, Abdul Rahman Yasin, was not put on any Most Wanted lists until 2001. No evidence existed at the time to connect the attack directly to Osama Bin Laden.

The bombings in Africa in 1998 were the first ones to bring Bin Laden and al-Qaeda to the forefront, but the air attack (Operation Infinite Reach) was criticized by Clinton's political opponents as trying to deflect attention from the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

As for the U.S.S. Cole attack, it was carried out less than three months before President Bush was sworn in. Clinton, who had inherited the debacle in Somalia from Bush's father, in turn did not want to commit to any large-scale military operation so close to the end of his Administration.

"Had Clinton been willing to act unilaterally to defend American interests he would have been far more aggressive in pursuing al Qaeda."

And he would have been excoriated by the very people who advocate unilateral action now. Congress was pounding Clinton on everything under the sun, including the 1996 anti-terror bill that they blocked as unnecessary.

I would bet a fiver that had Clinton taken unilateral action, Gingrich and his ilk would have screamed bloody murder and drawn up impeachment charges against him.

Why doesn't anyone ask democrats for a post event apology for being on the wrong side of welfare reform? How many families were driven from multi-generational non-productive poverty by that single act?

Why does Keith Olbermann hate the media?

olbermann hates everybody but himself and his little circle of parrots.
did'nt sandy berger get caught a while back with some documents in his pants? wonder what was on those docs?
Poor olby he is resorting to having one of the ultimate scummy socialist progressive websites licking his boots. I am talking about thinkprogress.org. This douche bag moron olbermann has the audacity to call Brent Bozell "Bozo the clown" . Ya want real nasty, ignorant liberal (I know redundant) scumbags? go read some of the posts on thinkprogress.org. Outright communists, degenerates and other liberal heroes post there daily. Some of the nastiest of the liberal "thinkers on the planet use that site as a sounding board to display thier outright hatred of America. So that is your new source of opinion Olberscum?? Good call moron!
What's next olbynut reading from the communist manifesto and quoting Mao & Che? Have you no decency you liberal traitor??
liberals and their mouthpieces like olbermann are more of a threat than the terrorists. At least the terrorists have the decency to declare war on America and not try to subvert, pervert and destroy from withing with a big goofy smile on their face.
OSAMA BIN OLBERMANN YOU ARE A TRAITOR. ( and a moron). bye!

riverdog:

"At least the terrorists have the decency to declare war on America and not try to subvert, pervert and destroy from withing with a big goofy smile on their face."

Thank you for painting ALL OF US with a very broad brush.

As a moderate with liberal tendencies, let me offer a large cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP, followed by a generous helping of KISS MY ASS! to the man who obviously forgot that "liberal" thought was responsbile for many of the great social advances in America (like, for example, abolishing slavery in the 19th century and then segregation in the 20th?)

The Founding Fathers were *gasp* LIBERALS! They rejected the ideology of "Divine Right" and monarchic systems of government and adopted the "radical" form of government known as a Democratic Republic!

The closest Olbermann will ever get to having different point of view on his show is if he turns around in his chair.

How long will before he says any Republicans / Conservatives who were killed on 9/11 deserved it because of their political orientation?

Has he ever flat-out condemned terrorism? I can't remember Olbermann ever acknowledging the positive gains the US has made in these last five years. Actually, I can't remember him ever saying *anything* positive about the United States since Countdown first aired. What a negative, spiteful man he is. What a pathetic way to live.

what is it with you uninformed a--holes? OH,I forgot you get all your information from that guy in his drug haze,Rush.

Discover the Secret Right-Wing Network Behind ABC's 9/11 Deception (19 comments)
READ MORE: 9/11, Google, 2006, New York Times, Disney

Less than 72 hours before ABC's "The Path to 9/11" is scheduled to air, the network is suddenly under siege. On Tuesday, ABC was forced to concede that "The Path to 9/11" is "a dramatization, not a documentary." The film deceptively invents scenes to depict former President Bill Clinton's handling of the Al Qaeda threat.

Now, ABC claims to be is editing those false sequences to satisfy critics so the show can go on -- even if it still remains a gross distortion of history. And as it does so, ABC advances the illusion that the deceptive nature of "The Path to 9/11" is an honest mistake committed by a hardworking but admittedly fumbling team of well-intentioned Hollywood professionals who wanted nothing less than to entertain America. But this is another Big Lie.

In fact, "The Path to 9/11" is produced and promoted by a well-honed propaganda operation consisting of a network of little-known right-wingers working from within Hollywood to counter its supposedly liberal bias. This is the network within the ABC network. Its godfather is far right activist David Horowitz, who has worked for more than a decade to establish a right-wing presence in Hollywood and to discredit mainstream film and TV production. On this project, he is working with a secretive evangelical religious right group founded by The Path to 9/11's director David Cunningham that proclaims its goal to "transform Hollywood" in line with its messianic vision.

Before The Path to 9/11 entered the production stage, Disney/ABC contracted David Cunningham as the film's director. Cunningham is no ordinary Hollywood journeyman. He is in fact the son of Loren Cunningham, founder of the right-wing evangelical group Youth With A Mission (YWAM). The young Cunningham helped found an auxiliary of his father's group called The Film Institute (TFI), which, according to its mission statement, is "dedicated to a Godly transformation and revolution TO and THROUGH the Film and Televisionindustry." As part of TFI's long-term strategy, Cunningham helped place interns from Youth With A Mission's in film industry jobs "so that they can begin to impact and transform Hollywood from the inside out," according to a YWAM report.

Last June, Cunningham's TFI announced it was producing its first film, mysteriously titled "Untitled History Project." "TFI's first project is a doozy," a newsletter to YWAM members read. "Simply being referred to as: The Untitled History Project, it is already being called the television event of the decade and not one second has been put to film yet. Talk about great expectations!" (A web edition of the newsletter was mysteriously deleted yesterday but has been cached on Google at the link above).

The following month, on July 28, the New York Post reported that ABC was filming a mini-series "under a shroud of secrecy" about the 9/11 attacks. "At the moment, ABC officials are calling the miniseries 'Untitled Commission Report' and producers refer to it as the 'Untitled History Project,'" the Post noted.

Early on, Cunningham had recruited a young Iranian-American screenwriter named Cyrus Nowrasteh to
write the script of his secretive "Untitled" film. Not only is Nowrasteh an outspoken conservative, he is also a fervent member of the emerging network of right-wing people burrowing into the film industry with ulterior sectarian political and religious agendas, like Cunningham.

Nowrasteh's conservatism was on display when he appeared as a featured speaker at the Liberty Film Festival (LFF), an annual event founded in 2004 to premier and promote conservative-themed films supposedly too "politically incorrect" to gain acceptance at mainstream film festivals. This June, while The Path to 9/11 was being filmed, LFF founders Govindini Murty and Jason Apuzzo -- both friends of Nowrasteh -- announced they were "partnering" with right-wing activist David Horowitz. Indeed, the 2006 LFF is listed as "A Program of the David Horowitz Freedom Center."

Since the inauguration of Bill Clinton in 1992, Horowitz has labored to create a network of politically active conservatives in Hollywood. His Hollywood nest centers around his Wednesday Morning Club, a
weekly meet-and-greet session for Left Coast conservatives that has been graced with speeches by
the likes of Newt Gingrich, Victor Davis Hanson and Christopher Hitchens. The group's headquarters are at the offices of Horowitz's Center for the Study of Popular Culture, a "think tank" bankrolled for years with millions by right-wing sugardaddies like eccentric far right billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife. (Scaife
financed the Arkansas Project, a $2.3 million dirty tricks operation that included paying sources for
negative stories about Bill Clinton that turned out to be false.)

With the LFF now under Horowitz's control, his political machine began drumming up support for Cunningham and Nowrasteh's "Untitled" project, which finally was revealed in late summer as "The Path to 9/11." Horowitz's PR blitz began with an August 16 interview with Nowrasteh on his FrontPageMag webzine. In the interview, Nowrasteh foreshadowed the film's assault on Clinton's record on fighting terror. "The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response -- or lack of response -- to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden to keep attacking American interests," Nowrasteh told FrontPageMag's Jamie Glazov. "There simply was no response. Nothing."

A week later, ABC hosted LFF co-founder Murty and several other conservative operatives at an advance
screening of The Path to 9/11. (While ABC provided 900 DVDs of the film to conservatives, Clinton administration officials and objective reviewers from mainstream outlets were denied them.) Murty returned with a glowing review for FrontPageMag that emphasized the film's partisan nature. "'The Path to 9/11' is one of the best, most intelligent, most pro-American miniseries I've ever seen on TV, and conservatives should support
it and promote it as vigorously as possible," Murty wrote. As a result of the special access granted by ABC, Murty's article was the first published review of The Path to 9/11, preceding those by the New York Times and LA Times by more than a week.

Murty followed her review with a blast email to conservative websites such as Liberty Post and Free Republic on September 1 urging their readers to throw their weight behind ABC's mini-series. "Please do everything you can to spread the word about this excellent miniseries," Murty wrote, "so that 'The Path to 9/11' gets the highest ratings possible when it airs on September 10 & 11! If this show gets huge ratings, then ABC will be more likely to produce pro-American movies and TV shows in the future!"

Murty's efforts were supported by Appuzo, who handles LFF's heavily-trafficked blog, Libertas. Appuzo was instrumental in marketing The Path to 9/11 to conservatives, writing in a blog post on September 2, "Make no mistake about what this film does, among other things: it places the question of the Clinton Administration's culpability for the 9/11 attacks front and center... Bravo to Cyrus Nowrasteh and David
Cunningham for creating this gritty, stylish and gripping piece of entertainment."

When a group of leading Senate Democrats sent a letter to ABC CEO Robert Iger urging him to cancel The Path to 9/11 because of its glaring factual errors and distortions, Apuzzo launched a retaliatory campaign to paint the Democrats as foes of free speech. "Here at LIBERTAS we urge the public to make noise over this, and to demand that Democrats back down," he wrote on September 7th. "What is at stake is nothing short of the 1st Amendment."

At FrontPageMag, Horowitz singled out Nowrasteh as the victim. "The attacks by former president Bill Clinton, former Clinton Administration officials and Democratic US senators on Cyrus Nowrasteh's ABC
mini-series "The Path to 9/11" are easily the gravest and most brazen and damaging governmental attacks on the civil liberties of ordinary Americans since 9/11," Horowitz declared.

Now, as discussion grows over the false character of The Path to 9/11, the right-wing network that brought it to fruition is ratcheting up its PR efforts. Murty will appear tonight on CNN's Glenn Beck
show and The Situation Room, according to Libertas in order to respond to "the major disinformation campaign now being run by Democrats to block the truth about what actually happened during the Clinton years."

While this network claims its success and postures as the true victims, the ABC network suffers a PR catastrophe. It's almost as though it was complacent about an attack on its reputation by a band of political terrorists.
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Discover the Secret Right-Wing Network Behind ABC's 9/11 Deception (19 comments)
READ MORE: 9/11, Google, 2006, New York Times, Disney

Less than 72 hours before ABC's "The Path to 9/11" is scheduled to air, the network is suddenly under siege. On Tuesday, ABC was forced to concede that "The Path to 9/11" is "a dramatization, not a documentary." The film deceptively invents scenes to depict former President Bill Clinton's handling of the Al Qaeda threat.

Now, ABC claims to be is editing those false sequences to satisfy critics so the show can go on -- even if it still remains a gross distortion of history. And as it does so, ABC advances the illusion that the deceptive nature of "The Path to 9/11" is an honest mistake committed by a hardworking but admittedly fumbling team of well-intentioned Hollywood professionals who wanted nothing less than to entertain America. But this is another Big Lie.

In fact, "The Path to 9/11" is produced and promoted by a well-honed propaganda operation consisting of a network of little-known right-wingers working from within Hollywood to counter its supposedly liberal bias. This is the network within the ABC network. Its godfather is far right activist David Horowitz, who has worked for more than a decade to establish a right-wing presence in Hollywood and to discredit mainstream film and TV production. On this project, he is working with a secretive evangelical religious right group founded by The Path to 9/11's director David Cunningham that proclaims its goal to "transform Hollywood" in line with its messianic vision.

Before The Path to 9/11 entered the production stage, Disney/ABC contracted David Cunningham as the film's director. Cunningham is no ordinary Hollywood journeyman. He is in fact the son of Loren Cunningham, founder of the right-wing evangelical group Youth With A Mission (YWAM). The young Cunningham helped found an auxiliary of his father's group called The Film Institute (TFI), which, according to its mission statement, is "dedicated to a Godly transformation and revolution TO and THROUGH the Film and Televisionindustry." As part of TFI's long-term strategy, Cunningham helped place interns from Youth With A Mission's in film industry jobs "so that they can begin to impact and transform Hollywood from the inside out," according to a YWAM report.

Last June, Cunningham's TFI announced it was producing its first film, mysteriously titled "Untitled History Project." "TFI's first project is a doozy," a newsletter to YWAM members read. "Simply being referred to as: The Untitled History Project, it is already being called the television event of the decade and not one second has been put to film yet. Talk about great expectations!" (A web edition of the newsletter was mysteriously deleted yesterday but has been cached on Google at the link above).

The following month, on July 28, the New York Post reported that ABC was filming a mini-series "under a shroud of secrecy" about the 9/11 attacks. "At the moment, ABC officials are calling the miniseries 'Untitled Commission Report' and producers refer to it as the 'Untitled History Project,'" the Post noted.

Early on, Cunningham had recruited a young Iranian-American screenwriter named Cyrus Nowrasteh to
write the script of his secretive "Untitled" film. Not only is Nowrasteh an outspoken conservative, he is also a fervent member of the emerging network of right-wing people burrowing into the film industry with ulterior sectarian political and religious agendas, like Cunningham.

Nowrasteh's conservatism was on display when he appeared as a featured speaker at the Liberty Film Festival (LFF), an annual event founded in 2004 to premier and promote conservative-themed films supposedly too "politically incorrect" to gain acceptance at mainstream film festivals. This June, while The Path to 9/11 was being filmed, LFF founders Govindini Murty and Jason Apuzzo -- both friends of Nowrasteh -- announced they were "partnering" with right-wing activist David Horowitz. Indeed, the 2006 LFF is listed as "A Program of the David Horowitz Freedom Center."

Since the inauguration of Bill Clinton in 1992, Horowitz has labored to create a network of politically active conservatives in Hollywood. His Hollywood nest centers around his Wednesday Morning Club, a
weekly meet-and-greet session for Left Coast conservatives that has been graced with speeches by
the likes of Newt Gingrich, Victor Davis Hanson and Christopher Hitchens. The group's headquarters are at the offices of Horowitz's Center for the Study of Popular Culture, a "think tank" bankrolled for years with millions by right-wing sugardaddies like eccentric far right billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife. (Scaife
financed the Arkansas Project, a $2.3 million dirty tricks operation that included paying sources for
negative stories about Bill Clinton that turned out to be false.)

With the LFF now under Horowitz's control, his political machine began drumming up support for Cunningham and Nowrasteh's "Untitled" project, which finally was revealed in late summer as "The Path to 9/11." Horowitz's PR blitz began with an August 16 interview with Nowrasteh on his FrontPageMag webzine. In the interview, Nowrasteh foreshadowed the film's assault on Clinton's record on fighting terror. "The 9/11 report details the Clinton's administration's response -- or lack of response -- to Al Qaeda and how this emboldened Bin Laden to keep attacking American interests," Nowrasteh told FrontPageMag's Jamie Glazov. "There simply was no response. Nothing."

A week later, ABC hosted LFF co-founder Murty and several other conservative operatives at an advance
screening of The Path to 9/11. (While ABC provided 900 DVDs of the film to conservatives, Clinton administration officials and objective reviewers from mainstream outlets were denied them.) Murty returned with a glowing review for FrontPageMag that emphasized the film's partisan nature. "'The Path to 9/11' is one of the best, most intelligent, most pro-American miniseries I've ever seen on TV, and conservatives should support
it and promote it as vigorously as possible," Murty wrote. As a result of the special access granted by ABC, Murty's article was the first published review of The Path to 9/11, preceding those by the New York Times and LA Times by more than a week.

Murty followed her review with a blast email to conservative websites such as Liberty Post and Free Republic on September 1 urging their readers to throw their weight behind ABC's mini-series. "Please do everything you can to spread the word about this excellent miniseries," Murty wrote, "so that 'The Path to 9/11' gets the highest ratings possible when it airs on September 10 & 11! If this show gets huge ratings, then ABC will be more likely to produce pro-American movies and TV shows in the future!"

Murty's efforts were supported by Appuzo, who handles LFF's heavily-trafficked blog, Libertas. Appuzo was instrumental in marketing The Path to 9/11 to conservatives, writing in a blog post on September 2, "Make no mistake about what this film does, among other things: it places the question of the Clinton Administration's culpability for the 9/11 attacks front and center... Bravo to Cyrus Nowrasteh and David
Cunningham for creating this gritty, stylish and gripping piece of entertainment."

When a group of leading Senate Democrats sent a letter to ABC CEO Robert Iger urging him to cancel The Path to 9/11 because of its glaring factual errors and distortions, Apuzzo launched a retaliatory campaign to paint the Democrats as foes of free speech. "Here at LIBERTAS we urge the public to make noise over this, and to demand that Democrats back down," he wrote on September 7th. "What is at stake is nothing short of the 1st Amendment."

At FrontPageMag, Horowitz singled out Nowrasteh as the victim. "The attacks by former president Bill Clinton, former Clinton Administration officials and Democratic US senators on Cyrus Nowrasteh's ABC
mini-series "The Path to 9/11" are easily the gravest and most brazen and damaging governmental attacks on the civil liberties of ordinary Americans since 9/11," Horowitz declared.

Now, as discussion grows over the false character of The Path to 9/11, the right-wing network that brought it to fruition is ratcheting up its PR efforts. Murty will appear tonight on CNN's Glenn Beck
show and The Situation Room, according to Libertas in order to respond to "the major disinformation campaign now being run by Democrats to block the truth about what actually happened during the Clinton years."

While this network claims its success and postures as the true victims, the ABC network suffers a PR catastrophe. It's almost as though it was complacent about an attack on its reputation by a band of political terrorists.
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When will the failed sports guy stop being a partisan hack?

I'll huffington and I'll puffington and I'll blow Your website down!

Out where the buses don't run. Johnny I'm still laughing over that one!!!!!!

This is a pretty funny website. A whole lot of constirnation! Mellow out... live life... have fun and love one another.

I am all for free speech as long as it is the "right" speech.

Doesn't everyone know that all writers of political dramas must be of the Left Wing persuasion.

signed,
The writers of the West Wing and Commander in Chief

Making a representation of the Clinton administration ignoring the Bin Laden threat in order to help further the Israeli - Palestinian peace process is unfair. My exact words were "The FBI did not believe we had enough evidence to indict bin Laden at that time and therefore opposed bringing him to the United States."

Signed,
Sandy Berger

This movie should be censored because I don't want anyone realizing that when I was getting all those Lewinskies in the Oval office, that I should have been more concerned about protecting the country. I don't want anymore searching Sandy Burglar's pants to really find out the truth either. This would damage my legacy.

See what I mean about liberal idiots? Anonymous' post shows that there is no reasoning with these lunatics. They credit themselves with everything from ending slavery to the actual design of the universe.
Yeah liberals have really improved America. The ACLU taking away any mention of religion in America. Outrageous taxes for more ludicrous "programs" and other absurdities. Affirmitave action which shows us all how evil giving one race favor over another by giving one race favor over another. Removing all sense of decency in movies, music, art and modern culture. Favoring the rights of sexual deviants and misfits to laughingly be allowed to "marry". Directly violating the US Constitution by enacting anti gun laws. Pushing America towards a socialist utopia that never did exist and never will. Blaming white men and white culture and America for all the world's ills. Accepting the premise of radical feminism that women have the "right" to murder children and hate men. Blaming America first anytime we are attacked. Actually believing that people like Ted Kennedy, Charles Schumer, Che Guevarra, Fidel Castro, and of course the ignorant and slimy Kieth Olbermann are good role models for this country. Lets' see i could go on for hours and hours about the "benefits" of liberalism but I will just ask one question. Are we better off today "morally" than we were say 40 years ago? Did we have the same high rate of crime, sleaze and general breakdown of society. Are we safer and happier now? Has all the "progress" of liberal ideology that has been stuffed down our throats or rammed thru our society really made us a better society? My answer, as you might guess is a resounding NO.
Liberals ned to be portrayed with a broad brush for the evils and ills they have forced upon our society, our culture and our very existence. From socialism to politcal correctness the left in this country has devolved from being actually concerned about people to just attacking religion, heritage , common sense and decency.
Liberals ARE at least as bad as the terrorists. they share the same goals and ideals but under a different set of flowery words. Terrorists hate us for our success and power in the world so do liberals. Terrorists hate us for our religion and so do liberals. Terrorists want to change our society to their ideals and so do liberals. Terrorists blame America first and foremost for the ills of the world and so do liberals. See the connection? liberals are terrorists but they don't fly planes into buildings or bomb subways. they burrow their way into the American court system, the universities, the public schools, and especially the media. From hollywood to the NY Times and the Boston globe liberals until just the past few years have had a virtual stranglehold on what information we recieve and how we recieve it.
Liberals are terrorists and fascists all rolled into one neat little package. they follow the patent formula of dictators and repressive regimes since the beginning of time. Control the press, control the government, disarm the people, change the language and impose speech codes, take over the courts, the education sysytem, and the media.
So mr anonymous don't you DARE preach to me about liberals! I will not shut up and I will not be silenced in exposing the wrongness and the subsequent hypocrisy that liberals use to sell their poison. YOu have the same goals and objectives as the terrorists- change America by whatver way you can for your own ideology.

Sandy Berger was afraid to return the documents to the National Archives due to all of the odd stains and pages that were stuck together with a rather "embarassing" biological substance...

David Horowitz deserves a pie full of anthrax

Damn that David Horowitz for pointing out the liberal hippocrisy at our nations colleges and universities. I am much more comfortable with my head securely rammed up my ass.

yeah anonymous your leftard hero Olbernuttjob deserves to be run thru a woodchipper.
Of course you left wing commies go after Horowitz. He exposes the commie scum that is brainwashing America's college kids. Horowitz desrves the medal of honor for exposing commie-progressive scumbags.
Tell me why you hate Horowitz so much? Is that many of today's colleges and universities demand free speech for everyone that only agrees with the communist party? Is it because they demand free speech only if that speech is politcally correct?
You liberals are such friggin hypocrites and are so brainwashed by these anti-American, pro communist professors that you can't even see the hypocrisy. They ought to just come out and call colleges and universities what they really are - traitor training camps.
sorry liberal traitor. Horowitz is a hero in my book for exposing liberal scumbags.

Riverdog,
Because of your great posts, that rivals mine.
Through my Sith powers I know annoit you Lord Dath Riverdog!
Rise Lord River dog and destroy the Jihadi Left!

Olbermann reality check..

CABLE NEWS RACE
THURS. SEPT 9, 2006
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 1,895,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,382,000
MTV PIMP MY RIDE 1,315,000
FNC SHEP SMITH 1,283,000
FNC GRETA 1,246,000
FNC HUME 1,231,000
CNN KING 769,000
CNN COOPER 735,000
CNN DOBBS 689,000
CNN BLITZER 592,000
CNNHN NANCY GRACE 537,000
CNN ZAHN 503,000
MSNBC HARDBALL 426,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 426,000
CNNHN GLENN BECK 420,000
MSNBC SCARBOROUGH 324,000

mlong:

Hope Brian @ TVN is noticing those numbers.

I just can't get how anybody can say theres a big rivalry between KO and O'REILLY when you look at those numbers theres no contest..even if Fox numbers are dropping like some claim..MSNBC is not getting any boost from it..and KO is clearly not getting any boost either from his "special comments" or that stupid book...hell GLENN BECK whose only been on TV a few months is getting numbers as good as KOs.

mlong,

The rivalry and "feud" are totally contrived by the MSM. As you point out, their ratings are extremely far apart. It would take an act of God for Olbermann's ratings to increase to anywhere near O'Reilly's.

And you can actually take Glenn Beck's ratings and DOUBLE them, because he gets ~400K each night at both 7 p.m. and 9 p.m. ET. I love the guy and am glad he's doing so well, especially after only a few months on the air.

Actually, I think the "feud" is contrived by Olbermann. I've seen children under the age of five act more rational than Olbermann. His obsession with O'Reilly is really weird and borderline perverted.

Glenn Beck has a great show. He's smart and funny, two qualities that Olbermann does not have in his arsenal.

Johnny writes:

"Judd Legum from ThinkProgress, one of those websites that's from way out there where the busses don't run; he's also from the Center for American Progress, known for their twisting of facts.

Legum jumped right in: the writer is a "conservative", he "appeared at the Liberty Film Festival". Aha! Olby brought up an obscure Christian youth group, and--what do you know--the director of the movie is on their board. Aha! Their mission is to have a "positive influence" on movies. AHA! Legum said something about an "untitled history project" which is from an "evangelical advocacy group" and maybe this movie is it. The Da Vinci Code-like connections become more and more sinister. KO took the direct quote "positive influence" and used OlbySpin to rephrase it: "remake Hollywood in their own image". So many leading questions, so little time."

Recently read someone making an extremely insightful and sobering point about this little exchange between Olbermann and Legum.

Substitute "communist" with every utterance of "conservatiive", "evangelical", "rightwing" and it will bring home to you how McCarthyite this stuff is sounding.

Actually, I think the "feud" is contrived by Olbermann. I've seen children under the age of five act more rational than Olbermann. His obsession with O'Reilly is really weird and borderline perverted.

Glenn Beck has a great show. He's smart and funny, two qualities that Olbermann does not have in his arsenal.

Nor does he have a personality. It makes me wonder, if everyone from Olby watch stopped watching his program, how far would the rating tank? Maybe low 200's? And what if they turned this program off in the prisons, would he have any ratings?

I watched the Glenn Beck show for the first time over the Labor Day weekend. I enjoyed it. I think it took some time to viewers to notice it, but it's catching on.

Keith has a perty mouth.

that last post by "prison guy" is vastly disturbing on so many levels. But hey there prison guy maybe you can "persuade" Kiethy's little "friend" Musto to share.
Glenn Beck is a pretty good guy and his show is catching on fast. soon he will pass olbermusto in ratings. Intersting that somebody like Beck can be on for only a few months and already be in a position to soon beat the olberloon in ratings.
I know the polls always show doom and gloom for conservatives but looking at the ratings for ultra-left wingnut shows it makes me wonder about the accuracy of those polls.
As I have said before I do not agree with everything O'reilly says . But he actually does something worthwhile . he goes after child molesters and liberal judges who enable them and left them off easy. I wonder if that may be one of the olberloon's issues with him? Oreilly also has guests on his show that actually debate hi not agree with him and kiss his ass. Ever notice how all of olbernuttjobs "guests" always seem to suck up to him and kiss his ass? A real news program has some diverging opinions not just agree with the host's drivel and bias.
I guess the liberal viewers just use olbermusto's show as a primer before they get really stoned out of their mind to the point of thinking the Daily Show with Jon Stewart is actually funny. I guess when you are stoned out of your mind and sitting on the couch anything can seem funny . Maybe when your brain cells are enveloped in a cannabis haze anything can seem like news even if it comes from a smirking,untalented, unfunny, liberal little prick like Stewart. and forget Colbert. He is only one step above an infomercial . I could only watch about five minutes of his "show" before I wanted to shoot my TV .
So olby you are in good company. your show is a tragedy wrapped in a conspiracy theory shrouded in the stupidity that is politically correct liberalism. But hey kiethy maybe comedy central can make you a permanent guest on South Park.

At least the Daily Show with Jon Stewart has the balls to have people on with different points of view. Thats the number one problem with KO's show he's afraid to have different views on his show and thats why people don't watch they know that all ther going to get is KO's liberal bias view of things backed up by people like John Dean who agree with him.

You got to wonder what would happpen if someone did challege KO hard on something whould he lose it and storm off?,is that why MSNBC doesn't make him have opposing viewpoints,because they know he couldn't handle the pressure and would throw a hissy fit on the air?

you are probably right about the olbernutt losing it if he actually had someone -gasp- dispute or disagree with him. you have to wonder serioulsy about the ethics and motives of a station like MSNBC to have someone like the olbyloon. I await the day that his olbernutiness loses it on the air and IT will happen eventually....can't wait, it's gonna be funny and hopefully final.

There are many lessons to be learned from this "PT9/11" controversy. I'm sure we will all be discussing them at some length in the days to come.

But if there is one thing I think we can all take away from this right now, it's that Hugh Hewitt is the most unctuous, intellectually craven, partisan shill on the current political scene. Nobody in this entire episode has behaved with less integrity, less dignity or less probity.

Case in point, regarding the comparisons between the right's demands regarding the Reagan biopic and the left's objections to "PT9/11:"

I am looking forward to Gabler's defense of the ABC film, but also to the reasoned differentiation between CBS's explanation and any explanation that ABC can or would ever be able to offer about changes to or cancelation of "The Path to 9/11."

First, hundreds of people have screened :The Path to 9/11," including me and many other critics and/or hosts of large audience shows. (Complaints from tiny lefty bloggers that I received a screener and others didn't ignore the fact that I requested it weeks ago and that I have an audience in the millions, not the tens.) To my knowledge not one professional critic has yet suggested the film is other than a powerful narrative of the era, especially chilling in its portrait of the enemy, or particularly damning of the Clinton-era fecklessness regading terror. It isn't like we don't know that Monica was a distraction and Madeleine Albright a less-than-brilliant Secretary of State (how about that late lurch towards North Korea?) John O'Neill was in fact fired; there were warnings that were ignored about the African embassy bombings, and no response followed the Cole attack and the American ambassador to Yemen was an obstruction to that investigation, Massoud was assasinated by al Qaeda. These are not debatable subjects. They are facts.

Second, the Reagan biopic served no purpose and memorialized no important event in American history. "The Path to 9/11" does both. The attempt to bury the latter is the attempt to erect an official history on one of the most devastating days in our nation's history. Those demanding its ruin are demanding censorship of the very worst sort.

Finally and most importantly, just because people complain that a film is inaccurate doesn't make it so. The Reagan pic was by CBS's own account a deeply flawed bit of anti-Reagan advocacy.

This is not the case about "The Path to 9/11," which is a powerful and hugely researched project, though it is not a documentary and does not claim to be. There is no reasonable case to be made that the film distorts history or slanders public figures in any significant way.

There's a whole week's worth of drivel like that and worse.

I suppose this does prove the Dean of Columbia's Journalism School's contention that Hewitt is no mere GOP mouthpiece. I'll repeat what I wrote about this earlier:

All those "smart, determined conservatives" who are "starting new organizations and making more converts" [as Lehman termed Hewitt and others of his ilk]are funded by a network of wealthy benefactors. They are not required to make money (I guess they are considered the loss leaders of the oligarchy) and their function is to simultaneously write the word and spread it. They've been fairly successful recently at making a market for their work, but it's still not big enough to sustain it. With the exception of actual political campaigns (at which point they actively coordinate with whichever strategic electoral wizard they've anointed), after 30 years of listening only to each other there is no need to explicitly inform anyone of the company line. They know it without having to be told.

I suppose you could call that "journalism." I call it "propaganda" and I'm stunned that Nicholas Lemann, of all people, hasn't figured out how this thing works by now. But when you hear some of Hewitt's interviews with DC journalists it's clear they haven't figured it out either.

Hewitt stands apart, actually, as being even more craven and unprincipled than the rest. In that way he serves an important purpose for the right. His mere presence in the discourse serves to make people like John Podhoretz and Jonah Goldberg seem like paragons of rectitude by comparison.

People of the center or left who continue to help Hewitt pretend to be a credible person by appearing on his show can no longer be considered credible themselves. By encouraging Hewitt's blatant intellectual corruption they are irrevocably tainted by that intellectual corruption themselves.

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Accountability

by digby

Fifty-seven percent of the respondents said they think it would be good for the country "if the Democrats in Congress were able to conduct official investigations into what the Bush administration has done in the past six years."

OWW POST REMOVED HERE

Oww you can't spam your site with 1,000 words "comments". I do accept GUEST POSTS so if you would like to submit your piece as such just send me an email. I have left up ONE version of this "hilarious" bit here: http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/09/path_to_911_-_o.html#28604 but the other three (so far) are being removed.

It's not a "speech" issue, it's a "Clutter" issue. If you really want everyone to see what you wrote the GUEST POST route is the better one to take.

Yes clutter is a really important issue. So I guess that means you'll be getting right on that issue of all the posts that get double and triple posted eh?

"I have left up ONE version of this "hilarious" bit here:"

Do the quotes mean you didn't find it "hilarious?"