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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    September 21, 2006
    COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN - SEPTEMBER 21, 2006

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • COMPROMISE ON TORTURE: Craig Crawford
    • DISASTER IN IRAQ: Thomas Ricks
    • CONGRESSIONAL CORRUPTION: Melanie Sloan, C.R.E.W.
    • O'REILLY IS A LIAR: Marcus Baram, RadarOnline

    The opening spiel, besides teasing another O'Reilly attack, featured the launch of another Krazy Keith Konspiracy (KKK): the whole torture debate is a trick aimed at "keeping our eyes off Iraq"! But if it is, Olby took the bait and made it his lead story. Of course he led off with the lie that torture is "of almost no use in gaining reliable information" in noting the agreement between "Mister" Bush and the Senators.

    KO was puzzled how the President and the Senators could both be telling the truth. To resolve this enigmatic issue, Olby called in Craig Crawford, aka Olbermann's Brain, and immediately struck a cynical note:

    Might there be less to this deal than meets the eye?

    Brain giggled that it was the White House who backed down on "rewriting" (OlbySpin) the Geneva Conventions, and when it came to tonight's KKK, well, Brain swallowed. It helps the Republican Party, he chortled, and distracted from Iraq. Then, using the tried and true propaganda technique of repetition, Krazy Keith asked:

    Why do you want to torture people, when torture consistently gets people to lie to you and make stuff up that they think you want them to tell you?

    The answer: because you're lying, Keith. Just ask Brian Ross.

    A clip from Tim Ryan (D) with him accusing the adminstration of using this to "change the subject" from Iraq. Aha! The Democrats' talking points join in perfect synergy with the KKK of the day. Mere happenstance? Like Sherlock Holmes, we do not believe in coincidences. KO was ready to urge his party leaders to kick it up a notch:

    Why isn't every Democrat on Capitol Hill following Congressman Ryan's lead there?

    Brain snickered that the Democrats don't have the "peasant mentality" that the younger Turks like Ryan do. Following Keith's lead, he added that they have to bring their game to the next level. After Great Thanksing Crawford, Olby went on to talk about the rise of killings and "torture" (worse than under Saddam!) in Iraq, citing a UN report. Here we go again: what is the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann not telling us this time? Manford Nowak, the Austrian law professor who came to these conclusions, got his information from people in various Middle Eastern cities, and, for his part, has never even been to Iraq. Um, OK.

    Some talk about troop levels led into a return appearance from Thomas Ricks. The military has problems "recognizing reality". A clip from a Bush presser led KO to suggest the President was contradicting himself, and Ricks blamed it all on "redefining" what it means for the Iraqis to "stand up". He proclaimed the US effort to be "dysfunctional" and sidestepped Olby's suggestion that "we're making it worse".

    The #4 story was about corrupt politicians. All of a sudden poll numbers were news on Countdown, because they showed the Congressional approval rating was down to 25%. Then came a list of "tainted" lawmakers: three Democrats, three Republican Senators, with Olby taking special note of "Rick 'Man on Dog' Santorum", and two GOP House members. Also mentioned were several politicos on a sidebar list of people to watch, including Bill Frist Dennis Hastert (R) and John Murtha (D).

    All of this led Keith "Man on Fan" Olbermann to introduce Melanie Sloan, from C.R.E.W. (a "nonpartisan" organization whose honchos are drawn from the ranks of outfits like Olby's favorite Soros site, Media Matters). Sloan named William Jefferson (D) the most ethically dubious member of Congress. Countdown viewers must have been thinking: who he? For all his legal troubles, Jefferson has gotten barely a notice from KO. Olbermann Watch had to hector Keith for months just to get him to mention the guy!

    Sloan may be a Democrat (a protoge of Joe Biden) but she was mostly even-handed, despite KO's best efforts. Still, she did get in a dig at Tom Delay (R), who isn't even in Congress any more.

    After another award-winning chapter of "oddball" and a tease for Herr Olbermann's latest indulging of his chief Olbsession, we got a puff piece on Clinton's Global Initiative. Richard Branson's three-billion dollar pledge to fight global warming was handled with a taped rerun from NBC. (Branson himself was too busy talking about it over on Fox to bother with visiting Keith.) Though Olby said not one word about it, the report did include a five-second clip of the goings on at the UN. Not surprisingly, that was the only mention of Hugo Chavez on the entire Hour of Spin.

    MADMAN

    There was a tease for another Big Olbermann Interview: B.J. Clinton, tomorrow on Countdown. Watch the tough questions fly! See Olby hone in with searing follow-ups! And also a tease for the latest on Mr Bill. Followed by a tease for the latest on Mr Bill. Followed by surveillance cameras in England (more recycled video from the network mothership). Then Michael Jackson, Barry Bonds, Cameron Diaz, and Justin Timberlake. Oh, and Breaking News: KO pimped his book (while naming Enron's Jeff Skilling "worst").

    Finally, the Big Moment: the latest installment of the discredited sports guy and his incurable infatuation with Mr Bill O'Reilly. Still flogging his flippant dismissal of threats to O'Reilly's life from yesterday, KO launched into another thrilling edition of "Factor Fiction". Because Keith knows it's fiction, and cited an online magazine (Radar) as his "proof" that O'Reilly is "lying again". All this based on an "unnamed Fox News correspondent", an unnamed Fox spokesman, unnamed somebodies from unnamed other news organizations, and an unnamed "law enforcement official" who was "not aware" of any of this.

    Marcus Baram, of Radar, at first refused to take Keith's bait ("he's not telling the truth") and would only say that O'Reilly might be exagerrating. Then Baram warmed up and said "it feeds into his own fantasy", though Fox was visited by FBI agents regarding the kidnapping of their reporters in Gaza. Keith "Man on Fan" Olbermann grunted an mm-hm to that, another puzzling reference to Countdown viewers who never heard a word about it from old infamous and deplorable. The interview creaked on, devoid of news value, reaching its peak of ludicrous pseudo-journalism when Baram quoted a competitor of O'Reilly saying it was "all B.S." Like, how would a competitor know? Like, which competitor was it? Hell, it could have been Olbermann himself who gave that quote. We wouldn't put it past him.

    While Olby regularly spikes genuine news because it doesn't fit his propaganda goals, he eagerly lapped up every unsubstantiated word from the Radar scribbler. (It's the topic du jour on A-Mess-NBC, given the coverage from Tucker Carlson and Joe Scarborough.) But is the left-leaning Radar a reliable source? Do they have an agenda? Keith won't tell you. We will.

    It wasn't that long ago that Radar "outed" the CIA background of Anderson Cooper; it took a while, but eventually observers realized that exposing CIA ties, however tenuous, of a reporter could make him more of a target to terrorists. Dare we say, it might even put Cooper on an Al Qaeda "death list". Clearly, Radar has a vested interest in pooh-poohing terrorist threats made to reporters, if only to cover their own backsides.

    But why should anyone believe Radar anyhow? They had a huge exclusive--Mary Mapes (whose critics were "wingnuts", according to Radar) was rejoining Dan Rather at HDNet. Only one problem: it wasn't true. Said Mapes: "They totally made it up. It's hilarious." Oops. This, ladies and gentlemen, was Olbermann's Great Source for O'Reilly attack #113.

    NAME

    In addition to spiking news about Hugo Chavez and the other visiting "dignitaries", Keith was careful not to bring up another inconvenient truth. The Army just had its best recruiting year since 1997. Just like falling gas prices, that isn't consistent with OlbySpin, so you won't hear it on Countdown. In the ratings game, where Krazy Keith insists he is surging, he once again finished in a humilitating fourth place. Tonight's MisterMeter reading: 2 [LOW]


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    As expected, KTO didn't apologize for being wrong about the release of O'Reilly's book. What surprised me was that his #1 story(more Bill bashing) spilled over into Joe Scarborough's show as the lead segment. What happen to Scarborough's show? I used to view it(preferred it to Greta's show) but lately I can't even tolerate it. Same with Tucker(lack-luster dancer) Carlson. I guess we have Dan Abrams to thank for this.

    "Man on Fan," LOL. Bravo, Johnny.

    The primetime ratings show how America feels about MSNBC. 'Nuff said.

    I like the "Mister Meter". Is that new, or have I just not noticed it before?

    Gee, and I was expecting Keith to name Brian Ross, Charlie Rangel and Nancy Pelosi as the three WPIWs tonight...

    Johnny Dollar,
    Bill Frist was one of the most corrupt Senators. The Republican mentioned as a person to watch was Dennis Hastert. If you're going to criticize his show at least quote it correctly.
    How was Olbermann supposed to attack Clinton's initiative? Did Fox attack Richard Branson? Is Laura Bush evil for trying to get kids clean drinking water? Outside of your absurd and psychotic hatred of President Clinton I'm not sure why you advocate attacking his initiative.
    One might point out that simply because a magazine is wrong about one thing doesn't make it wrong about everything. However, we all know Bill O'Loofah is better than God in all possible ways so if he said it, it must be true.
    Finally, what do you want to be reported about Iraq? How no one has been killed since the war began? How no American has lost his or her life? How the Iraqis all love each other and are handling their own security? How perfect everything is? Should I quote Bush casting doubt on the rosy scenario you see? Then you can attack him too?

    You're correct about Hastert/Frist and I've made the correction. Thank you for your input.

    But your other points...

    > absurd and psychotic hatred of President Clinton

    You have no idea who I hate or why. Unless you can read my mind, and unless your stage name is Kreskin I doubt that very highly.

    > I'm not sure why you advocate attacking his initiative.

    I don't know where in the wide world of sports you came up with that. Please quote where I said his initiative should be attacked. Now you're just making stuff up, like radar.

    > because a magazine is wrong about one thing doesn't make it wrong about everything.

    Oh wow, Deep Thoughts from Colbert. Like it or not, track record for accuracy is not an irrelevant point when judging the quality of a story based on unnamed sources, most of whom had NO KNOWLEDGE WHATSOEVER of what they were yammering about.

    Thank you so much for your constructive contributions.

    Johhny Dollar,
    Most sources had "no knowledge whatsoever" refers to the Mapes or O'Reilly piece? If it's about O'Reilly, how do you know what anaonymous sources know? If it's about Mapes, how do you know who the anonymous sources are and what they knew? I never saw the peice but I've read many rumors about politics, sports, etc. Simply because the rumor doesn't turn out to be true doesn't mean the sources had no idea what they were talking about. Take Hillary for example. Assume she decides not to run. Does that mean we go back to anyone who mentioned rumors from sources she would run and claim they have no credibility? Did none of the sources have any idea what they were talking about? Maybe what they said was right and she changed her mind? Maybe Mapes did consider joining Rather and changed her mind? Are you so close to the story to know for sure? Even if they were completely wrong on that story it doesn't mean they are wrong about everything. Take you, Johhny. You claimed Olbermann said Frist was on a sidebar list of people to watch. That is blatantly false. Does that mean you have no credibility? Should we assume you're wrong about everything you write?
    Joe Scarborough seemed skeptical of the story as did Roger Cressey. But wait. Scarborough was probably forced to say what he said and Cressey is secretly a commie. Right?

    You said this about the Clinton mention: "we got a puff piece on Clinton's Global Initiative." Here is Webster's definition of "puff piece": "an article or report in the media that is based on exaggerated praise to promote a person, entity, or event." What "exaggerated praise" did you have a problem with?

    I may not be Kreskin but you hate President Clinton for his fictitious scandals, especially Monica (although the Monica BJ actually happened).

    Instead of "man on fan", how about "man under desk"?
    Or MUD for short. I think that fits Olby perfect.

    You tell me how O'Reilly's competitors, who have a vested interest in cutting him down anyhow, could possibly know what the FBI allegedly told him in private? Or how some other guy at Fox would know the contents of this private conversation? There's no basis whatsoeverk to suggest they had any knowledge of it at all, None. Zero. Radar did not have a single source, even anonymous, who said this conversation never happened. They may think it's fine to base a conclusion on the theory that x, y, and z didn't know about it so therefore it's all a lie. And we know Olbermann's sourcing is equally irresponsible. But that doesn't make Radar's article anything more than speculation by the uninformed, for the uninformed.

    As for the "puff piece" comment, what makes you think I was objecting to it being a puff piece? On something like a humanitarian outreach program, puff pieces are perfectly acceptable. Once again, you claim something that isn't true.

    As a final fabrication, you insist that I "hate" Clinton for "fictitious scandals". I can assure you I don't hate B.J. Clinton for any fictitious scandals.

    The thing to watch on KO's show now is not what he's going to talk about..thats easy...Bush bad,I hate O'Reilly for kicking my ass every night,the "Buy My Book"!,"Buy My Book"!,"Buy My Book"! plea and of course those "special comments"but what to watch is how will he'll avoid stories that he dosen't like or don't support his leftest views even if there big and everyone else is covering them likes Hugo little rant that even turn off some hard left Dems,the rise in Bush's poll numbers,the chances that the Republicans will retain control of congress and so on.Yea he's a real Edward R. Murrow all right.

    Another thing is watching how all of MSNBC is following KO lead in attacking FOX and other news networks Both (Tucker and Joe now have "beat the Press" segments) on their shows,which I quess when your in last place and nothing else works must be the only thing they got left in their playbook.

    Johnny,
    How did the federal law enforcement official know the agents only talked to management at the meeting about Steve Cetanni? Why did Leah Yoon not know about this? O'Reilly isn't keeping his "private conversation" private by talking about it on "20/20." So why did the anonymous Fox source and Leah Yoon not hear about it yet?

    Olberman is a joke - Claims his book is in its 3rd printing - Amazon ranking is dropping faster than Olbermann's pants in a San Fran. bath house.

    Publishers at times intentionally under print to make that exact claim!

    mlong, it's pathetic how Carlson and Scarborough have followed Keith's lead and now trash the competition as he does. It's just tacky, and as a result, I no longer watch ANY of their programs.

    Olbermann supports Hugo Chavez. He didn't mention him because he agrees with his rant at the UN.

    Look, Colbert. You can ask all the unanswerable questions you want. You can doubt, you can be skeptical, you can say you don't believe it. You're just an unknown nobody on a comments thread.

    Olbermann claims to be a journalist. He lies about stuff routinely. And in this case, he states that O'Reilly's account is 'Fiction" and that he's "lying". And guess what? Man on Fan Olbermann has NO IDEA whatsoever if it happened and if O'Reilly is lying or not. He declares metaphysical truth based on nothing but his loathing hatred for Fox and O'Reilly.

    That's not journalism, my friend. It may be jealousy, envy, arrogance, and his own diseased relationships talking. But it ain't journalism.

    Olbermann supports Hugo Chavez. He didn't mention him because he agrees with his rant at the UN.

    "The Army just had its best recruiting year since 1997."

    Yup, they are recruiting older, lower IQs, and hitting minorities hard in in cities with high unemployment rates.

    The commercials targeting minorities are shameful. You wouldn't even believe it. I see them constantly.

    There should be a draft. If we are at war, then everyone should participate.

    I hope Olbywatch gets a "punching up" meter going to mock Krazy Keith's infamous defense of his activity. Also, I heard BOR has punching bags with "certain peoples' faces on them". Gee, I wonder who. Can J$ or Mister Cox work that into a new graphic?

    mlong, it's pathetic how Carlson and Scarborough have followed Keith's lead and now trash the competition as he does. It's just tacky, and as a result, I no longer watch ANY of their programs.
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    They were supposed to have been the "balance" to the left wingers on MSNBC but all they are are a poor man's Hannity and O'Reilly or a better term is their neutered conservatives..they have Tucker dancing and Joe doing Entertainment stories from Hollywood..while Hannity and O'Reilly do interviews with the President and other important goverment officials.It's really sad.

    Everybody check out TVNewser. Right above a piece praising MSNBC for "breaking news" earlier today, there is a lengthy piece bashing Fox News for blasting Hugo Chavez all day.

    Funny thing is, someone should tell young Brian Stelter that Nancy Pelosi and Charlie Rangel were bashing Chavez along with Republicans. So Fox really was fair and balanced, since both political parties are in agreement on Chavez.

    Just another instance of this kid trying to prop up MSNBC while putting down another network. He tries to belittle CNN all the time too using his juvenile analysis. Someone should put this child in his place.

    Mr. Dollar---As you are already providing synopses of Countdown,would it be too much trouble to provide a list of advertisers?One person's boycott won't amount to anything,but I want to ensure that I provide no support to anyone affiliated with this show.TIA

    The "Mapes" example. Rest of the story here,

    From Radar Online:
    >>>>In fact, as Mapes confirmed when we phoned her at her Dallas home on Tuesday, she told a Radar reporter last month that she was in serious discussions with Rather to join him at HDNet. Mapes now claims she didn't realize their conversation was on the record, and never said the deal was finalized. Since then, their talks have apparently come to naught and Mapes has moved on to other projects. Radar should have called Mapes to update the story, we regret the error, and we wish her well.

    I think, at best, you could accuse them of going off half-cocked, but not lieing.

    Everybody check out TVNewser. Right above a piece praising MSNBC for "breaking news" earlier today, there is a lengthy piece bashing Fox News for blasting Hugo Chavez all day.
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    Remember when MSNBC's "breaking news" about John Mark Karr was herald as a big deal and FOX was dissed for being late about it? Who had the last laugh on that one?

    It must really hurt this guy to have to post those daily ratings with his beloved KO and MSNBC on the bottom.

    About Olbermann's book, the way Amazon has their "search inside!" arrow graphic aimed, it looks like they are trying to figure out what is actually in KO's brain too.

    9-22-06 as of 1:10 am

    Amazon.com ratings:

    Olby #56, out since 9-11

    Culture Warrior #59, due out 9-26

    Keith do you hear footsteps behind you?

    My fav quote from the Bill O'Really? Al-Qaeda-is-out-to-get-me mess.

    >>>>Asked about O'Reilly's claim, Fox News' reaction was equally confounding. Media relations director Leah Yoon repeatedly insisted the network had "nothing to say," because O'Reilly's interview is being aired on ABC.

    "We shouldn't be shouldering the burden of something he said on someone else's network," she said.

    Way to stand behind your #1 Fox!
    Watch'er back Billo!

    Amazon.com ratings:

    Olby #56, out since 9-11

    Culture Warrior #59, due out 9-26
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    This is going to be fun...How will KO spin it when C.W. passes Olby?

    Like I said I think we can look forward to a lot of ultra "special comments" and I'm sure the personal attacks on O'Reilly are going to be ramped up too.

    > I think, at best, you could accuse them of going off half-cocked, but not lieing. [sic]

    Love that escape dude. Where ever did I accuse them of lying? I accused them of being sloppy and inaccurate, not the best qualifications for a story, but maybe it works for Countdown, since Olbermann ASPIRES to be sloppy and inaccurate.

    >>>>Sloan named William Jefferson (D) the most ethically dubious member of Congress. Countdown viewers must have been thinking: who [is] he?

    Not really, when the story was breaking Olbermann did five mentions of him. Some of them were by Brian Unger.

    In the meantime, the Plame-Wilson investigation was going full-bore. Whitehouse officials outing a CIA agent who was working covertly on WMD's in Iran usually trumps a congressmann hiding cash in his freezer.

    Sorry to break this to you, escape, but you should keep up with the news. Plame wasn't working on WMDs in Iran, according to the Washington Post. She wasn't covert, according to the law. And the biggest lie from Olbermann that you've bought: she wasn't outed by a White House official. It was a State Department guy who outed her.

    Other than that, you did fine.

    The final word on the Plame-Wilson investigation is there was no crime commited and Libby's case (which has nothing to do with the "outing" of Plame) could still get tossed.

    You guys are a little behind the curve on Plame-Wilson's true responsibilities, let me catch you up.

    >>>>>According to current and former intelligence officials, Plame Wilson, who worked on the clandestine side of the CIA in the Directorate of Operations as a non-official cover (NOC) officer, was part of an operation tracking distribution and acquisition of weapons of mass destruction technology to and from Iran.

    This would have been useful intel for the upcoming attack of Iran, no?

    http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Outed_CIA_officer_was_working_on_0213.html

    >>>Not really, when the story was breaking Olbermann did five mentions of him. Some of them were by Brian Unger.

    >>>In the meantime, the Plame-Wilson investigation was going full-bore. Whitehouse officials outing a CIA agent who was working covertly on WMD's in Iran usually trumps a congressmann hiding cash in his freezer.

    So KO is capable of handling only one story at a time? That's not much of a Countdown, now is it?

    Colbert,

    "simply because a magazine is wrong about one thing doesn't make it wrong about everything"

    That is true. And this is not really a KO-centric point but as someone who spends a good deal of time dealing with ethics issues in journalism I think you are missing the point. The problem is using anonymous sources. They should be used sparingly and not as the only source(s) for a story. I don't know anything about this magazine but if they have a history of granting anonymity to sources, not outing them if it turns out those sources lied and then keep putting out stories based on anonymous sources they are not a credible news organization. In this case, it is possible that Radar already addressed any past transgressions and has tightened up how they handle anonymous sourcing but if they have not and Keith is putting them on their air to put out unsubstantiated allegations given a poor track record then he is doing nothing more than airing rumors and innuendo. And given keith's track record, THAT is a KO-centric point.

    BTW, spud at ICN linked this:

    Refugees from Scarborough Country
    http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27268469.shtml

    it tangentially mentions KO so I did not link it directly.

    "That is true. And this is not really a KO-centric point but as someone who spends a good deal of time dealing with ethics issues in journalism I think you are missing the point. The problem is using anonymous sources. They should be used sparingly and not as the only source(s) for a story."

    And if they are, one should not use that story as proof of some point. So I trust any minute now you will be slapping down your chosen heir J$ for claiming that Olbermann's statement that torture doesn't work is a "lie." He based that claim on 100% unsourced, leaked material from a single reporter.

    Goose. Gander. Sauce.

    Readers of these boards will be aware that yesterday I was elected to lead the Olberloons, elected with a comfortable margin in the highest turnout election ever held on Olbermanwatch. I am afraid that the bland and partisan poll that has been put up today may be scaring off some people from reading my acceptance speech posted there, so I am reposting it here. I trust scrupulous administrators to recognize that prose like this can never be called "clutter:"

    Friends, CoxLovers, Olberloons, lend me your eyes.

    I come not to praise Olbermann, but to bury him. On Olbermannwatch, the ticky-tack legalese of grammar is fetishized to infinite hours, the good quickly interred beneath a mountain of words uttered by bored, nit-picking TV obsessives. But Cox is an honorable man, and he has given me leave to speak for the wronged, and now by your voices you have given me leave to lead you all, CoxLover and Olberloon alike, to a place of peace and sanity far from this madding crowd.

    One cannot be wrenched violently from the cave of shadows. Having been shackled there from birth by family connections, wealth, advantage, paranoia, evangelical christianism--or the opposites--CoxLovers and Olberloons alike must be lured into turning their heads by gentle persuasion and sometimes even by shadows themselves. For if they were to look directly at the true light that lies outside the maniacal darkness of this site without some transition, they would go instantly blind.

    In assuming the mantle of leadership of the Olberloons, I will be constantly providing this gentle guidance. While speaking deep truths, I promise to continue to leave you all room to make surface misinterpretations so you can be comforted by your old shadows, the shadow of the "terrorist sympathizer," the "communist," and the "hysterical liberal." The march to the raw, fresh air of truth will be long, but it will end in success.

    These profound votes of the past two days have shown two things. First, that while half of you have bad taste in women and yearn for square-jawed, faintly Germanic mediocrities, the turnout suggests this group as a whole is more interested in their Olbermann obsessions than in girls, by a fairly wide margin. Second, it has shown that you trust me to lead you from the dark wilderness of this obsession, to help you put down the remote and the Doritos and start living healthy, productive lives in the pure light of truth and traditional American values. I will not betray that trust you have all placed in me.

    Does one have to source common sense?

    To the guy who Abrams reports to:

    Hey - can I have Abrams job at MSNBC? There's so much going on in the world - so may cool people and humor can be found in so many place. I mean a line up of Carlson, Scarborough and the biggest loon of all, Olbermann. This isn't friggin TV - this is a laughing stock of how not to do things

    We can do four classy interesting, humourous & honest hours - and get people watching

    I mean really - look at the state of your Mess NBC. Abrams has let the inmates run the asylum -You have a guy like Olbermann who has one objective in life - get ratings at any cost. ANy in the "know", can never belive anything he says. Make the wise decision, cut the cord and resort back to class.

    Come on - give me a year and I'll provide ethics plus ratings and four great hours. Get great writers - a lot of good personalities and some honesty. It will quite a while to get back the integrity Olbermann is losing for your network daily - I mean his off the wall quotes he used on air can be cannon fodder for years to come but we can come clean, admit the errors and provide some quality news and entertainment.

    "Does one have to source common sense?"

    No, one need not source "common sense," especially when it is the "common sense" of every failed dictatorship on earth. But when one goes to prove that something is technically and mathematically a "lie," one cannot admit as fact in that attempt anonymously sourced, leaked reports.

    So let me get this straight.... Olberdouche says the Bush administration is in favor of "torture" and re-writing the Geneva statute. Both of which are patently false and then tries to bolster his already false claim with a further false claim that torture doesn't work anyway.

    Wait... I get it. In Olbermannworld, two negatives (i.e. falsifications) = a positive (i.e. a truth). So that means that as long as Olbermann lies in even numbers it is all good, that's just how hard Keith works; twice as hard to invent a truth.

    9-22-06 as of 2:08 pm

    Amazon.com ratings:

    Olby #65, out since 9-11

    Culture Warrior #52, due out 9-26

    Think KO will say anything or will he just lie about it?

    Most likely all the comments about book rankings will cease to be a nightly feature of The Hour of Spin. Instead look for Olby to cherry-pick quotes from bad reviews of Mr Bill's book and toss them in, hoping to depress his sales.

    Maybe the loon could do a live broadcast from the front of a Barnes & Noble demanding an apology - from everyone, and certainly Mister Bush, for not buying his book

    But - could you imagine a large crowd with some "rowdies" yelling out:
    " Hey - it's Mister Bush's fault"
    "How's was the 6 months you spent at you job in Boston"
    " Hey why did you leave Fox Sports after all the ratings success"
    "Hey - where'd you get that tan, Mars man"
    "Hey - watch those subway doors
    "Hey - which one of your five cohosts, Musto, Fineman, Liar Creepy Liar O'Donnell, Rove is guily Crawford, or Milbanks bought your book
    " Hey is it true you told an e-mailer to ....

    We're talking Olbermann here. Of course he'll lie. It's all he knows how to do.

    As Of 3:00 p.m. 9-22 on amazon:

    Olby's book: #66 out since 9-11

    Culture Warrior: #38 due out 9-26

    I think the new poll question for tonight should be. How many times will Olby pimp his book in one hour?

    Now, as of 3:06 the Olberman book is #67!!! Whoooohoooo. You're going DOOOOOWN, Orangeman! Oh yes, 3:06:18 it just ticked down again. Oh damn! Now at 3:06:52 it ticked back up! Definitely just an aberation though. Well get through this...and...YES there it is, back down to #67. Oh yes! This guy is so only selling a few thousand books!!! Oh, damn, this is fun. Who needs fresh air or girls when you can watch someone else's book sales tick around all day? Shit, I've got to cut the commentary and get back to work on this--3:07:27, up a notch, nothing to worry about...

    "I think the new poll question for tonight should be. How many times will Olby pimp his book in one hour?"

    And the followup question will be how many obsessed Olberphobes will spend Friday night in front of the TV, hands shaking their dorito bags from the excitement, and sit there and count every reference.

    It's 3:58, September 22, 2006. You will never get the time you wasted here back.

    Oh, damn, this is fun. Who needs fresh air or girls when you can watch someone else's book sales tick around all day?
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    Uh don't forget it was KO that made a big deal about his book sales we're just keeping the truth about where he really stands on the rankings.


    It's 3:58, September 22, 2006. You will never get the time you wasted here back.
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    How much time do you waste on a site you don't care for?

    hello scumbags! and how are the fear-based extremists today? i suppose ya'll are still into theocracies, like the Taliban. and how 'bout the torture thang -- i'll be ya'll are still advocating torture, just like al-qaeda. it's funny you and the terrorists both agree that the end justifies the means. don't feel too bad though, in every era there are repressive-minded folks like yourselves who represent the scum of the earth, so at least you'll never be alone. have fun being fascist with the little time you have left, losers!

    hello scumbags! and how are the fear-based extremists today?
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    Hi Keith ready for your BJ for Bubba tonight?

    "it's funny you and the terrorists both agree that the end justifies the means."

    What.... like affirmative action, redistribution of wealth, eminent domain, abusing the court system for legislative purposes?

    Dude what planet are you on? And is comfy there?

    I had to stop at the first sentence to inform you of something. It's not a conspiracy, it's politics. It's smart politics for the GOP to talk about torture instead of Iraq, hell it'd be smart politics to talk about Katrina instead of Iraq. Your attempts to avoid issues and insulting Olbermann over discussing the topic are pathetic.

    And again, you want to make it seem like torture is a tried and true method to getting confessions, and if someone says otherwise they're liars. Some believe torture works, some believe it doesn't, and you aren't lying when you claim one position or the other.

    Lets see what dollar can fault Olbermann for next. Oh, here it is, another reason to insult the man because he's citing a United Nations report! It's just so much easier than looking at the issue at hand!

    It's also funny to see how fast you dismiss some issues, so fast that you don't even get in an insult at Olbermann--see Bush contradicting himself. Quick! Move on to the next issue so we can find another way to kleverly insult Keith! (hahaha)

    "Olbermann Watch had to hector Keith for months just to get him to mention the guy!" Hold onto that sliver of hope, dollar. You really do mean something, and you're special in your own way! You're important! And Jefferson isn't news until he at least gets indicted. Conveniently OlbermannWatch skims over any topics involving corrupt Republicans selling their vote to the highest bidders. Not enough room in the blog I guess.

    I skipped the rest of the blog, seems like the rest of it was on O'Reilly and how you're sad that he didn't say "Mr." more times.

    > you aren't lying when you claim one position or the other.

    But you are lying when you say the "unanimous" view is that it doesn't work, which is what Olbermann said.

    > another reason to insult the man because he's citing a United Nations report!

    I get the impression that you are deliberately dense to avoid agreeing with any criticism of the Great and Powerful Olb. The point was not that he cited a UN report, but that he cited it without telling his viewers how the "report" was created, which goes to the reliability and credibility of it. In other words, he left out anything that didn't fit his spin, which makes it propaganda.

    > And Jefferson isn't news until he at least gets indicted.

    That's the biggest joke yet. Just like Karl Rove isn't news until HE gets indicted? Hahahahahahaha!

    > Conveniently OlbermannWatch skims over any topics involving corrupt Republicans

    Olbermann Watch is about watching Olbermann. Not corrupt Republicans. Olby covers them in depth. It's the Democrats he skims over, and we expose his rampant bias.

    > I skipped the rest of the blog

    Hardly surprising. Some people can't handle the truth.

    Many people claim something to be unanimous when there are at least a few people in the world who disagree (Killing is unanimously evil - if you want to claim that that statement makes me a liar go ahead, but nobody will take you seriously).

    All that's necessary in reporting is citing a report, if you want to do a report about the report then you can go about how it was created, but if you're citing it in a segment about a larger issue it isn't necessary. If you're curious you can always look online and figure out who made it and how it was made.

    I think you might have misunderstood what I was saying. Talking about Jefferson isn't news, meaning that there isn't anything newsworthy to say, and the only way you'll hear him brought up in a news segment is if someone is doing a report about potentially corrupt politicians. Karl Rove was in the news because he went was continuously going to the Grand Jury and the leak case was in the news.

    I thought OlbermannWatch discussed topics Olbermann talked about (or isn't that the excuse you use when other issues are brought up?). My point is is that even if Olbermann talks about corrupt Republicans your "reviews" are somehow absent of anything other than "Olby blathered on about something about a politician selling his vote, but on to more important insults..." I never claimed that you should watch corrupt Republicans, I simply commented about how eager you are to not mention them.

    > the only way you'll hear him brought up in a news segment is if someone is doing a report about potentially corrupt politicians.

    The exact sort of segment Olby had on time after time after time, only mentioning Republicans and never mentioning Jefferson. Thank you for making my point.

    You never had a point, johnny.

    You'll continue to ignore corrupt Republicans in favor of calling Olbermann names you think are clever (klever). Your priorities are sure in line.

    Robert,
    I agree anonymous sources should be used as little as possible but the Washington Times, Fox News, NY Post, etc. use anonymous sources too. I'm sure you have no problem with those anonymous sources. I say I'm sure because you've shown no problems about Brian Ross' anonymous sources.
    I find it interesting J$ and you are both acting as if the article had no named sources. "They should be used sparingly and not as the only source(s) for a story." Was Leah Yoon a made-up character?

    Colbert,

    I have spoken on numerous journalism panels on this very topic including at the National Press Club where one of my fellow panelists was the editor of USA Today. I do have a problem with the use of anonymous sourcing and have said in various public forums - and directed at the very people who use them as a matter of course. I mention USA TODAY because there policy has been to NEVER use anonymous sourcing something they changed in order to put out the NSA phone records story (a report which turned out to be flawed).

    Did you know that in a First Amendment Center survey of journalists that 90% reported they had NEVER used an anonymous source in a story, Did you also know that almost all of the uses of anonymous sourcing in the press comes from journalists in Washington? It is really a beltway issue where journalists offer sources anonymity as a matter of course. The result is that people in our government are allowed by the press to make all sorts of statements without any accountability for what they said. That is wrong. It is a disservice to our democracy and runs contrary to the primary mission of the press.

    In certain cases such as the Brian Ross case, the use of anonymous sources is warranted because the CIA officers and their families would very likely be al Qaeda targets if there names were known.