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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    September 30, 2006
    The 18-Second Gap

    Slippery

    On Friday, Countdown reported on the latest allegations against George Allen. We noted that they did so by rerunning a report that aired Thursday on Hardball. David Shuster interviewed a woman who said she heard Allen using racial slurs.

    But as we revealed exclusively on Olbermann Watch, the Countdown version differed from the original Hardball broadcast in one significant respect. Snipped from the taped piece were a series of questions that revealed the political affiliation of accuser Pat Waring. We will disclose now what Keith Olbermann did not want you to hear.

    From the transcript of Thursday's Hardball, this is the exchange that was censored from Friday's night's Hour of Spin:

    SHUSTER: You volunteer, you acknowledge you are a registered Democrat.

    WARING: I am indeed.

    SHUSTER: You volunteer at the local Democratic office?

    WARING: I do.

    SHUSTER: Once a week?

    WARING: Once a week,

    SHUSTER: Couple hours?

    WARING: Yes.

    SHUSTER: What do you do for them?

    WARING I sit there and answer the phone and give people signs.

    Obviously, MSNBC believed that the partisan bias of the accuser was relevant if viewers were to fairly assess her credibility. Just as obviously, somebody decided that this exchange, roughly 18 seconds long, had to be removed when the piece was shown on Countdown. Result: the accuser's background as a Democrat activist was never disclosed to the audience.

    Who ordered that a pre-taped piece should be sent back to the editing bay, just to remove these particular 18 seconds? Was it notorious quote-doctorer Shuster who decided this report should be doctored? If so, why a special, edited version just for Countdown? Or is it more likely that the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann did not want his viewers to have the whole story, and once again put his thumb on the scales of fairness?

    Olberverse...

    Newsbusters: Keith Olbermann's "Countdown" took things further downward Friday by deliberately editing a report on the latest Democratic activist accusing Republican George Allen of being a racist...

    The Cable Game: ...partisan-identificaion disclaimer was missing from Keith Olbermann's show, which aired just a little while later on the same network. In other words, Olbermann disserved his viewers by depriving them of valuable context as to where the accusing woman was coming from.

    Instapundit: AN 18-SECOND GAP. Now where have I heard that before?


    Posted by johnny dollar | Permalink | Comments (183) | | View blog reactions
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    Oh please J$, there is a rational explanation for the missing segment. This is not a "Nixonian" style tape edit, nor is it an Orwellian manoever to control the media , nor was it bias. The original tape clearly was edited for time constraints. That seven seconds would have taken away from "oddballs." Just ask Sarah, hit_escape, nonfactor, blerie bob, and the rest.

    Well that IS a theory. If those 18 seconds had not been removed, Olby would have only been able to make five or six "fat jokes" instead of seven or eight. I suppose we can't rule that out, but something tells me there was more to it than that!


    I cannot stand David Shuster. FNC fired this loser and he is just where he belongs, with Chrissy the Spittleball.

    The Tesla is out. A sports car that can compete with a Porsche or a Ferrari and is battery powered. No gas needed. What do you think will happen to the price of oil?


    www.teslamotors.com

    250 miles on 1 charge. 0-60 in 4 seconds. Car costs $100,000 but it's only a matter of 5-10 years before the car is affordable to the masses. The other car companies need to get with it or they will be obsolete.

    I proved my point. Soaring gas prices created a need, and some genius went out created the solution. I heard he had a 50 million dollar budget, but had a finished project for $25 million.

    He came in under budget and the first 100 cars are already sold. Gas stations 20 years from now will no longer sell gas. They will be selling electric charges.

    From there it's just a matter of time before commuter planes can run on electricity, and who knows, maybe oil will become obsolete.

    I can see the oil producing countries dropping there prices immediately. I can see Chavez and Ahmenijad competing to see who can become nicer to the west first. Trying to sell thier oil while it still has value.

    Hate to post all over this board, but this invention is right up there with the personal computer and the internet. The world has just changed.

    did you have a problem with the swift boaters being republicans? no.

    G. Monster: yes, except a large majority of US electricity comes from burning oil. Get us to 100% nuclear like most of Europe, and *then* the Tesla becomes interesting. (Difficulty: the hippies put up substantial legal barriers to nuclear power in the 70s and 80s. GWB has demolished some of them, but it'll take decades to fully recover).

    My plan has worked. I have convinced the masses that the Swift Boat Veterans were the liars and not John Kerry. By using terms such as "the swiftboating" of an opponent, I have effectively given the swiftboaters a negative connotation. Who cares that 20 people see the so-called "heroic" rescue performed by Kerry as completely bogus, while only two (kerry and the alledged man rescued) see it another way. It doesn't matter that two of Kerry's purple hearts were as a result of self-inflicted wounds of stupidity, nor does it matter that Kerry would film re-enactments of missions for future reference (politics maybe). I am the media and I tell you only what you need to hear.

    Olby edits for bias, not time.

    Whomever took it upon themselves to edit this down and changed essential content deserves to be fired immediately. But it won't happen. Look what Olby gets away with on a nightly basis. Unbelievable.

    They didn't fire him for calling a Jew a "monkey," or for any of the other ridiculous acts he has committed on air lately, so why would Dan Abrams care about this? There must a separate standard for him. It obviously does not involve good taste.

    I saw the original report and I was concerned about the edit of the segment from the previous airing. While I really like Olbermann I wish he would have guests that disagree with him and question him on his comments. I think Keith is running with a title that no one else has or seemingly wants. I think not being able to question your beliefs is not challenging yourself, and kind of sad. I like the Special Comments however too much of the show is pure filler shit to me.. I could give two wits about Anna Nicole Smith ad her son.. sorry call me callous but there are far more importants issues... And the whole oddball things is nonsense. He has the same guests all the time, never interviews an average American. I do not think KO does a good job with his show except the special comments which I can watch on crooks and liars and miss all the other snide remarks. More often than not I am dissapointed in the show, and that pisses me off.

    Just more crap from KO. You don't blame a dog for biting, and you don't blame KO for being a sad sack of shit.

    O'Lielly, is that really you, or is an impostor using your alias? Are you OK?

    To your point, I think we would lay off Olby a bit (that's all) if he would at least present opinions that do not parrot his own. That got old a long time ago.

    Who are you and what have you done with Bill O'Lielly???!!!

    Well.. I am just tired of acting as foolish as Riverdog and I have decided to raise myself out of the muck and mire. As a leftist I am appalled at the lack of media personalities that the left has. I nominate myself.. all those opposed please raise your hand or forever hold your peace. I would like to see Molly Ivins get a show.. how about the Howard Zinn show on the History Channel .. what about the Noam Chomsky politics/ entertainment show we could call it Hegemony Extra, Extra. You see you righties have no idea about what true leftists think because you are forced to watch fake moderates pushed into liberal opinion by the media. When will they open up the media to true progressives , it is like calling Bush a conservative.. well we all know he is not a conservative he is a jesus freak in a position he as qualified to be in as if Rosey O'Donald was entered in the Mrs America contest... Sure she qualifies, but shit couldnb't you get someone better looking or on Bush's behalf someone smarter. Vive La Revolution..

    Now, that does sound like you, O'Lielly! Do you think Olby is a moderate masquerading as a liberal? I think he is less liberal than he appears to be, but his mission is to get ratings. I think he's trying to do that by appealing to progressives and attracting them as his fan base. "Trying" being the key word.

    O'Lielly,

    Tell it to Ralph Nader. Look what you guys did to him...

    Oh, and very good thinking about the growing up stuff, sweety.

    one big socialist a--hole on TV is enough- we have olbytoons and that is one too many .
    you say that you are going to raise yourself above the muck and mire and what do you do? You proceed to show the world what an a--hole you are once again. how about a nice case of STFU for you?
    all your heroes are zeros- if you have seen one communist you have seen them all.

    Riverdog.. Right now I am smoking some really good bud, and your silliness is making me laugh more than my old Cheech and Chong records.. could you please post more my friends are anxiously awaiting your next attempt at expressing yourself. You make as much since when you are typing as my dog does when he is " speaking "... shit you are dense.

    I have no problem with Olbermann BEING a Liberal, I just wish he'd own up to it and admit that he is instead of pretending he's not politically involved. I also wish he'd get his facts right, and invite an opinion on every once in awhile that wasn't straight from the Democratic Talking Points. That's my big problem with him, that he is not balanced in the least and then pretends he's not politically involved. It's just intellectually dishonest. Oh, and I wish he'd stop calling people "fat asses".

    Eighteen seconds removed? Maybe it was an Olbermann mini-homage to Rose Mary Woods.

    I figured you for a bonehead, be careful maybe the cops will pay you a visit now. Better keep a good look out that window. You never know if your phone or computer might be tapped either. be careful ,I would hate to see someone of your caliber get thrown into the stir and have some large Hells Angels type teach you some manners. I just really want to know- which one are you Beavis or Butthead.

    Hey Mutt...

    I am not afraid of getting a ticket... If you want to call the cops on me let me know I will give you the info you need. Now I just need to look up the number for Creedmoor so I will know where your trattle is coming from

    Right now I am smoking some really good bud,
    Posted by: Bill O'lielly at September 30, 2006 10:16 PM

    I used to do that and though I wouldn't want to recomend drug usage to anyone, I'm glad I did. It helped me look at life from another perspective than the one everyone else was selling me. There are some people who surely could use a few hours looking at the world upsidedown so to speak. Then maybe they wouldn't be so sure of themselves and they might even learn something about there own mind.

    OK bonehead give me the info! Creedmoor that's NY City isn't it Hmmn I have relatives in the City and some good friends of mine have a clubhouse down in the East Village real nice guys. You are making this easy my friend because you are so dumb.
    codas said: "There are some people who surely could use a few hours looking at the world upsidedown so to speak. Then maybe they wouldn't be so sure of themselves and they might even learn something about there own mind."
    well mr codas I guess like they say brain damage is for ever. I presume you meant "their own mind" not "there own mind" correct? read back on some of past posts and try and understand that ethnobotany was part of my studies and also part of my survival training. I know a little of what I speak . Wade Davis, Dr Richard Evans Schultes and Terrance Mckenna have all infulenced my thinking and expanded my knowledge very nicely thanks. If you need chemical alteration of your brain for introspection maybe what you learn in that introspection will be as false as the means to which you got there. You looked at things from a different perspective using cannabis and what ever other mind manifesting alkaloids you ingested without bothering to first comprehend what you were trying to find out. You had an answer in situation where there was no question. you took the easy way to enlightenment, fooled yourself into believeing that non reality was real and now you profess to have opened your mind. Better living thru chemistry eh? You could have saved your money and gone to a movie for all the enlightment you got thru cannabis my friend. Smoke a little pot and open your mind right? well be careful if your mind is too open from false knowledge your brains might just fall out. A mind that is too open is just the sign of a man without convictions.
    you poor little brain dead fools still have no earthly idea who you are dealing with yet do you?

    A mind that is too open is just the sign of a man without convictions.
    Posted by: riverdog at October 1, 2006 12:34 AM

    And a mind that is closed is a good thing then. I
    am sick of the idea that because you have convictions, you have a plan, that makes you noble or something. Charles freaking Manson had convictions and a plan also. So did Hitler. Your afraid to look inside of your mind. It would scare the living hell out of you. You say I fooled myself into believing nonreality was real while you live in your own belief that your mind should remain closed. You have the answers. You understand the secrets of life while a fool like me wonders whats it all about. Well a "Pothead" friend of mine had a bumber sticker that grasps reality better than most I think. It said, "If you think you know what's going on, your probably full of shit". Yep! And also, for you to point out my spelling errors is a joke. Look at yourself. Oh I forgot. You don't think that's a good idea.

    ah Bumpersticker philosophy -one of my favorites.
    If you maybe could read you would noticed I put the qualifier "too open" in my sentence about open minds. While a closed mind cannot learn a mind that is too open will allow anything in the way of ludicrous knowledge to enter and then be considerd wisdom .
    You use ol Chucky Manson and adolph as an example? Both were notorious drug abusers who also had their mind opened by various nefarious substances. Thank you for proving my point about a mind too open to realize reality and thus ifurther infulence society with their profound enlightenment. you make this so easy.
    I not only know how to just spell introspection I also know the mechanics of it. assuming that you are going to get wisdom from just burning a poor little plant is not really gaining any wisdom if you have no convictions beforehand. Like the wizard of OZ said " I did not really give you anything you did not have already".
    Playing with the pharmakoepia and experimenting with plant poisons does not give you wisdom or knowledge. Pharmacology alone does not a prohet make. The word psychedelic comes from the Greek and literally means "mind manifester". Plant entheogens only work on what is there already- it does not give you anything you don't all ready have.
    You see amigo if all that bud you burned had worked on what was already there you would realize that it is not me who is full of shit. I know myself and what is right and wrong in clearly defined tones; enough to recognize that it is you that is in need of the outhouse.
    NEXT!

    As a matter of fact riverdog, I am a drug and alcohol counselor in a misa program. I see the effects of drugs on human beings everyday. If you would have noticed, I said I did not wish to advocate using drugs, only that they helped me see things in a different perspective, which I do not regret. I am so glad for you that you know big words and what they mean in Greek. I have never to this point until the last few days ever posted comments on a website, let alone a right wing leaning one. I am actually stunned by the level of intelectual arrogance by some of the people that I have read. Excuse me for not spelling well. It makes me laugh when I get accused of not having convictions and of being a Godless liberal, then when I state a position I anm attacked for being stupid and when I fully acknowledge God I am not talking about the same one everyone else is I guese. It seems to me that there is no real hope of trying to get people who are sure they know the truth to question themselves here. I clearly stated in the past couple days that I am confused by life. I suppose you people think that is a weakness. Well kiss my ass then! People who think they know it all are scary to me. They scare me because I do know one thing for dam sure. They are not to be trusted with being in charge of anything because they can't learn as they go. Much like your dear leaders who are having no peoblem convincing large numbers of people that it is a good thing to kill, torture, jail, slander, as long as they say it is. And you buy it. And then you accuse other people who know them for the murderers and crooks they are of being traitors. If Christ himself walked this earth right now he would be in a stress position very soon I think, and you would feel safer wouldn't you. All this site is doing for me is making me glad I have eyes to see, and ears to hear so that I still use them to make up my own mind about the world. I don't need Olbermann. And I dam sure dont need arogant, selfserving power hungry ding dongs telling me how silly I am for not buying into the false christian morality that "some" people on this site are pushing.

    I don't consider them spelling errors as much as typos.LOL. you are smart guy but like me your typing probably sucks. being a godless liberal who believes in God just goes to show you that you are damned if you do and damned if you don't, metaphorically speaking of course. I am pretty new to all this computer stuff myself but I like the verbal debating when it is kept to a modicum of decorum so to speak. I also don't like to take any crap from some of the smaller minds here as diplayed by my sparring with the artist formerly know as clobert/o'liely/anonymous. Just the old biker coming out in me I guess- I don't take shit very well.
    Don't be so hard on yourself and others man. Nobody really has life figured out and anybody that tells you that they do has their mind so open as to be spilling shit out of their cranium
    When you say "you people" who are your referring to? I never professed to know it all or to be an evangelical Christian or be holier than thou. My problem is that I have clearly defined notions of right in wrong based on the paramaters of knowledge gained in my past. Everything good and bad and indifferent and everybody from bums to sages I have learned something from. I too have, on an informal basis ,helped people thru drug problems . Like the old saying goes reality is for people who can't handle drugs.
    The drug thing is interesting to me from many angles. Combine the history of substances that create altered states of mind and anthropology and a little archeology thrown in you have a volitile mix of religions and false prophets galore. My biggest epipihiny came from studying ethnobotany in the context of religious experience. The first religious experiences came from the use of entheogens- mind altering plants like cannabis, Psilocybin, papaver somniferum (poppies-poppies oops it's that wizard of OZ thing again).To get to the point I am trying to make is the greatest parable is to equate drugs, gensis and the human psyche. I am certainly no expert on the Bible but I do like the concept of Genesis and the garden of Eden. In the garden Adam and eve were told not to eat from the apple- the tree of knowledge. I believe that tree was a euphamism , a code word if you will for psycotropic plants . You mentioned that you thought that smoking a bone opened your mind. Myabe it does and maybe it doesn't. But in the end it makes you believe that you are smarter or at least more aware. I never said that I had never done any "experimenting" myself did I?? i am not just pulling theories outta my ass. I know of what i speak.
    More than apocolyptic verse and "end times" movies and those "end of the world in near"pamphleteers' my major conclusion is that people have come to think that they are smarter than God. Whatever your concept of God is, be it Buddah,allah, Christ, Vishnu, or the great Manitou humans with all their enhanced knowledge are coming to think that either they don't need God, they are smarter than God or that they ARE God. Atheists think they are the smartest of them all. The one thing that i cannot fathom and that really gets me is somebody thinking that they are the highest (no pun intended) form of intelligence themselves- that is no greater power or Higher Power as you probably teach. Those atheists , while of course they have the right to differ must think themselves as the "real cat's ass" as they like to say in Vermont.
    Man I hope nobody is reading this and thinking to themselves that this dude is ready for the rubber room! That dude being me. Look i don't have anymore answers about life than anybody else. all I can do is aknowledge what I believe to be right and wrong and try to do what is right. Ever heard somebody say that religion is the opiate of the masses? Well religion might not be an opiate exactly but it is a catylyst for opening the mind if you treat it right.
    as far as calling somebody unpatriotic it all goes back to tribalism in my mind. As smart and as technologically savy as we are we are all still primitve beings. tribalism was the basis for towns and countries and civilization itself. unfortunately it also the basis for strong diagreements. The tribe of the left and the tribe of the right today is really far apart on many things maybe all things. The thing that depresses me the most, that scares me the most is that it will probably take another attack frightfully a bigger attack for us all to be one tribe again. the greatest thing to bring two tribes together is to have common enemy.

    sorry to go on and on and on for so long and take up so much space. maybe I am just practicing to write my big book and just don't know it yet.
    happy trails...........

    Say riverdog,

    I asked you a question the other day, and like a good little talibanista republican, you ignored it.

    Why ?

    Because I PROVED you to be a liar about your claims of military service.

    You lied about it, to give yourself some credibility, and it blew up in your face. You made claims, acting as though you were a vietnam vet, but when confronted with your lies, you chose to ignore it.

    Well I am still waiting for an answer, because when you do answer, you will have to lie again. And I will be there to expose you again, for the liar you are.

    Since you have already been proven to be a liar, why should anyone believe anything that you say? No one should.

    Last thing, I know you will either ignore this, or you will say that this is an old topic, or some other inane "definition of is is " excuse, hoping it will go away.

    Your problem is, I aint gonna let it go. You are a liar, and that is that.

    Ok K williams/o'liely/colbert/ananonymous from NY how the hell can I tell a lie if I don't even answer?? WTF is wrong with you man??
    i went backa few days and could not find any posts under the mane K williams.
    not that i owe you any answers but you may ask the question again and i will respond if I feel like it.
    I am closing in on you , you know it, i know it and I am not going to let it go. ya know usually nobody has the balls to call me a liar to my face for two good reasons- the first si I don't lie- i don't have to the second is that if some snot nosed punk IS stupid/drunk/drugged enough to call me aliar that person usually gets carried away and requires stiches .
    I ain't gonna let it go either punk so go for it.
    just tell me what idiot name you are going to use so I know it's you- boo- ya better watch out, better not cry, better not pout I'me tellin ya why river-dog is coooming to town.
    rock on holmes I am waiting.

    not there anonymous /colbert'o'lie/ etc etc etc.- just like I figured...ya had your cahnce and you punked out just like olbermann and his fans. ha

    Riverrat opened his mouth and said:

    Ok K williams/o'liely/colbert/ananonymous from NY how the hell can I tell a lie if I don't even answer?? WTF is wrong with you man??

    I am not from NY, I am from Irving Texas. You LIED about being in the military. You lied about being "shelled". You have done nothing but lie.

    Now you dont answer, because you would have to lie.

    Now you asserted, besides your claims of being in the service which was a lie too, but you claimed that the NVA (north vietamese army ) had heavy artillery. They may have had HA, but if they did, it was parked in a warehouse somewhere, because they COULD NOT deploy it. they could barely get anti-aircraft guns deployed,

    Now you asserted that you were "being shelled" in vietnam. I say you are a liar. I say that if you were in the military, you were never in the field. Because if you were, you would have known that the statements you were making were plain propaganda.

    and then there is this little jewel.

    " just like I figured...ya had your cahnce and you punked out

    I dont spend all of my time here, just enough to expose you for the liar that tries to claim he served in the military. Taking a cue from your fearless leader ? I think so, and I believe that it is becoming evident to everyone here.

    So why dont you tell us about your heroic efforts in vietnam. Why dont you try to tell these others why you know that the NVA had heavy aritillery ? Tell us all what it is like to be shelled.

    You wont, because if you do, I will prove once again how full of sh1t you are.

    one more thing

    "WTF is wrong with you man??"

    I cant stand and wont tolerate little punks like you, that CLAIM to have served this country, to give yourself some sort of credibility, when I doubt you ever wore the uniform.

    Cowardly little chickensh1ts that havent and wont serve, claiming the mantle of one that has. That is my problem you lying piece of sh1t.


    Tell us all about some of your heroic actions in vietnam, and I will be here to expose you for the lying little punk you are.

    Olbermann's like an "illegal" alien media man. He commits the bias other MSM's won't. That being the overtly obvious hit pieces. Where the rest at least attempt to camoflouge theirs a little.

    You know, if anyone from Fox or CNN had omitted 18 seconds from a report which failed to mentinon the partisan political affiliation of someone making allegations against a DEMOCRATIC candidate, Olby would be all over it like white on rice. But when he does it? Not a word from his faithful fans who think he's perfect no matter what he does. See, this is the problem I have with his fan base, they are utterly blind to stunts like this.

    You just make up the news as you go
    That's the method to Keith's last-place show
    Lift, paste, and read
    Is all that you need
    To ensure that the ratings are low

    OK listen up a--hole because this is the last time that i am gonna have any contact with you.
    you think it's funny making fun of veterans? vets with honorable discharges? Men who seved their country? I am 54 years old man I don't need some left wingnut idiot twerp questioning me, my loyalty and my service to my country so here goes . i told you i was a survival instructor and advisor- I got out in 74 got my HD in 76. I was not regular army. Ya wanna ask me about claymores and tiger traps and bouncing betties and punji sticks dipped with human shit to start infections in case the bamboo did not kill sufficiently? You want to hear about delivering montanyard babies in the hills and spiders so big that you had to use the 1911A to kill them? I still fucking hate spiders! You want mud and rain for months? What do you want? You want the details about my foot and ball fungus from never being dry? YOu want to see the rust that's still on my Randall Knife? You want me to take out the piece of shrapnel out of my knee? I wish i could take it out and shove it down your damn traitorous liberal throat.
    Ya want details about my best buddy who was a Green Beret, a guy I instructed in survival who was on patrol when they hit trip wire mines? not the fancy ones we had- real homemade claymores with c-4 and ball bearings and nails-everybody but him got killed- cut to pieces everyone but him and he got hit and he still is not 100% today but he still is one of the toughest motherfuckers i know and he would just LOVE to meet you i am sure. just up until a few years ago when his back and my knee started really giving out we still used to ride the scooters ( that's harley scooters to you a--hole) all over the damn place and raise holy hell. Ya want to hear about another friend whoused to drop acid and go into the jungle at night tripping his ass off with just a knife and come back with gook ears on a bandolier around his neck?

    You want details about
    Mortars- 82mm & 122mm, rockets. That's artillery moron. you are gonna tell me about NVA regulars on the DMZ and the Ho chi minh trail who shot heavy artillery? you gonna make fun of being shelled for days with mortars and rockets and then question me?? The NVA had larger obscure stuff and after the jungle was defoliated they ran whatever bigger stuff they could. I don't know what the larger guns they had were. i am sorry i did not anticipate 35 years ago that today some bigmouth shithead would be questioning me so I did not go up the friggin gooks and ask them -hey this little faggot from texas has a question - I don't think so you little asswipe.
    Now that's it - no more talking to you, you brought up a host of bad memeories as it is. But I want you to tell me what have you done for your country? What gives you the right to come here and atack me and call me a liar? Tell me Mr K williams from Irving texas what gives you the right? now you put up or shut up. frag you momma's boy.
    TELL US NOW A LITTLE ABOUT YOURSELF??

    I saw the original report and I was concerned
    about the edit of the segment from the previous airing. While I really like Olbermann I wish he would have guests that disagree with him and question him on his comments. I think Keith is running with a title that no one else has or seemingly wants. I think not being able to question your beliefs is not challenging yourself, and kind of sad. I like the Special Comments however too much of the show is pure filler shit to me.. I could give two wits about Anna Nicole Smith ad her son.. sorry call me callous but there are far more importants issues... And the whole oddball things is nonsense. He has the same guests all the time, never interviews an average American. I do not think KO does a good job with his show except the special comments which I can watch on crooks and liars and miss all the other snide remarks. More often than not I am dissapointed in the show, and that pisses me off.

    Posted by: Bill O'lielly at September 30, 2006 08:22 PM

    >>>That seven seconds would have taken away from "oddballs." Just ask Sarah, hit_escape, nonfactor, blerie bob, and the rest.

    Hey! I live for Odd Ball! Don't be messing with my Odd Ball segment. 18 seconds here and 12 seconds somewhere else, would also allow them to run another commercial to make the almighty dollar.

    Johnny Dollar, Olbermann mocks you personally by making it exactly 18 seconds and causing you to put on that tin-foil hat. Did Waring make a partisan statement you objected to or is this just a smoke screen to avoid talking about Allen's racial slurs?

    Since you're on a tear to set the record straight, why don't you write a post concerning the injustice of the media failing report a republican operative speaking on behalf of Allen?

    "In a September 26 "Inside Politics" column by reporter Jennifer Harper, The Washington Times noted that Sen. George Allen's (R-VA) former University of Virginia football teammate Doug Jones asserted that he never heard Allen "use any racially disparaging word" and he never "witness[ed] or hear[d] about him acting in a racially insensitive manner," but failed to identify Jones as a member of Allen's re-election campaign and chairman of the GOP's Mount Vernon District office in Virginia."

    Brandon, CNN is a news network; MSNBC is a joke. No other network would have tolerated Olby's rants, check-passing, name-calling or foolishness in general.

    O'liely you are so full of shit! now you are all nice and acting like you are mister conversation. You are such a piece of shit.
    i like the way you even signed your name and all at the bottom of your post. what a nice touch coming from from such a sexually confused little boy. Who cares what you like and don't like about olbermann a--hole?
    the little turd says:"I saw the original report and I was concerned" yeah well like the guy on the daily show says who the fuck are you? who cares if you are concerned .
    you are so transparent and if you want guerilla warfare that's what you got pal- in spades because nothing you say from now on will go unchallenged or unchecked. hope you enjoy the fruits of your labor because from now on it's open season on a--holes like you...good luck, youll need it.

    slap O'liely, you take all this so seriously and so bitterly that you might just win the next World's Biggest Olberloon competition.

    you think it's funny making fun of veterans? vets with honorable discharges? Men who seved their country?


    No I dont. I dont believe that you are any of those things. I also find it despicable that someone would claim to be a veteran, when I, and by now most of the others here, know that you are not.

    Let me answer part of your question before I continue. I served 69-70 with the 4th I.D. at 3 different firebases and firesupport bases in Vietnam. That is how I knew you were full of shit and a liar.

    The NVA, nor the Vietcong ever set up heavy artillery in South Vietnam, or anywhere close enough to the DMZ to make a difference. The reason that I know that the NVA and the cong were unable to deploy heavy guns, howitzer, or any other cannon, is because they could not get them set up.

    Since you claim to have been there, you would have known just how much effort, men, and materials it took to set up and defend our firebases. And once our firebases were setup; with the overlapping fire ranges , it was IMPOSSIBLE for the enemy to setup any sort of firebases themselves. They did not have a clue about self-propelled guns. And the terain would not allow them to pull larger tank, truck, or animal towed artillery pieces into the area.


    The things you talk about, are tube mortars. Not heavy artillery. And the only vietnam era troops that would call mortars or rockets artillery, would be swabies and flyboys. But you said you were in the jungle right. The chances of a swabie being in the jungle would be slim and none, and flyboys might get shotdown, but I doubt you were a pilot, too much of an idiot.

    Rockets,,, I would say that you must be joking, but I believe I will stick with my first thought, you are a lying piece of shit that doesnt know shit from shinola.

    Further, I do make fun of the soldiers that WERE being "shelled" in Vietnam, because the NVA and the vietcong were the only ones being "shelled". They caught royal shit, from our firebases. Our troops may have come under "rocket attacks" or "mortar attacks" and maybe if you were some sort of special forces working way up beyond the DMZ you might have run into some "shelling" . There is one other possibility.

    You might have been one of the idiots that called in our artillery on your own positions, in which case you got some of our boys killed. Because once we got the co-ordinates for a strike, we could have outbound rounds on the way in 30 seconds, and could kill anything and everything around.

    there were literally thousands of times that a squad, plattoon, or another fire base would call for fire support, and we were VERY GOOD at killing what we were asked to. Ask some gireens or troopers what they thougt about our work. The flyboys got most of the credit, cause nothing is more impressive than napalm going up, but pound for pound, we put tons on targets. But they got all the glory. I can live with that, cause I know how many american asses I saved.

    Our captain bragged to the colonel one day, that with good co-ordinates, and a forward observer or a FAC "foward air controller", our fire team could put one in a rice bowl.

    As far as making fun of our troops, I have not done so, and again that makes you a liar. What I have done is to confront some loud mouth chickenshit that CLAIMS to have been in Vietnam under fire.

    The thing is, people like you make a mockery of those that DID serve, fighting, bleeding, and dying, so that some clown like you can ACT as though he served.

    I will wrap up now, with one caveat. You say you will ignore me and not respond. I understand why. You can not afford to debate me about this, and you are a coward. Just more PROOF that you are a lying piece of crap. a spinless gutless wonder, that wonts to be a John Wayne, but is more like peewee herman.

    I do reserve the right to continually confront you, and remind everyone here, that anything you say is suspect, because we know you to be a lying punk.

    Riverat,

    The last post is mine, in case you couldnt figure it out.

    one more thing, you want to bring my mother into this, tell you what , we could get together for an up close and personal, and I could tell you what your mother, and animal husbandry have in common. did you grow up saying bahh bahh.

    I guess not, that would be your fathers kids huh ?

    I guess you just bark.

    could not get all your lies and bs into one post could ya wannabee? The shit you talk about you got from movies. Smokin pot and watching Apocolypse now does not qualify you as "vetran" you lying POS while you were pounding your pud in the mud I was near the DMZ you whiny shit! I told you did survival. If you ahd really done any of the shit your say you would have caught the montanyard clue. But of course you did not. Maybe the ho chi trai, could have clued you in punk but no, you let that one pass too. all the shit you know you got from movies and I just proved it.
    is this how you get your rocks off? insulting vetrans?
    so THAT was your mamasan i nailed in saigon- get over it you bastard son of a gook whore. i'll bet your mamma so proud of her fi dolla boy.
    face to face- name the place. you talk brave but you are just a punk little fag .

    I know you are, but what am I?

    "Olby edits for bias, not time."

    I don't like the guy either, but when you get stuff like this it only undermines your point. The fact is, EVERYONE on TV edits for time. And you can't prove that this was not edited for time - I mean geez, the guy stuff envelopes for the Dems for a few hours once a week. What kind of 'smoking gun' is THAT supposed to be?

    Most likely, this snippet was taken out for time considerations. I'm sure Olbermann's people considered it a bonus that the edited piece did not help them make their case. All reporters tend to truncate information that does not fit into the context of their story. That doesn't make it right (sometimes they would be better off reconsidering their position), but it means Olbermann is hardly an anomaly.

    Olbermann is without a doubt a sliimy, mob-pandering ass without a discernable trace of self-respect. There should be plenty of evidence for that without the need to stretch things this far.

    "Swiftboating" is when you tell vicious truths about someone...

    > Most likely, this snippet was taken out for time considerations.

    Bwahahaaaa! Yeah, with all the other stuff in that program block, which was NOT one of the ones subject to a hard computer break, it was that particular 18 seconds that had to go. Not Olby's cracks and fat jokes. Not showing the 'macaca' clip for the 219th time. No, the only part they could cut is where they reveal that their eyewitness has a political bias.

    That's why it's the Hour of Spin.

    Nixon edited his tapes for time only as well. Snitch, you need to alert the masses

    Swiftboating" is when you tell vicious truths about someone...

    like writing book called state of denial


    >face to face- name the place. you talk brave ?but you are just a punk little fag .


    Ahh, one of Robert's clear thinkers no doubt.

    slap O'liely, you take all this so seriously and so bitterly that you might just win the next World's Biggest Olberloon competition.


    If only he were a moderate and clear thinker like riverdog!

    By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer
    Sun Oct 1, 12:59 PM ET

    "Olbermann's growing popularity, and growing partisanship, along with the response to Clinton's "Fox News Sunday" interview also indicate that Fox's foes have less fear about taking the network on."

    "Olbermann's growing popularity"? Do dupes like Bauder and Al Associated Press ever search for any evidence to support their allegations?

    Funny... the Right loved Woodward's first two books about the Bush administration. Just another example of the Right calling someone a liar when the don't like the information and facts their putting out there. The Right is a walking, talking double-standard.

    (by the way, how's the world of the Moral Right doing these days, Mr. Foley?)

    "If only he were a moderate and clear thinker like riverdog!"

    Well, I don't see riverdog renaming himself "slap O'lielly".... or "slap that person arguing about VNA heavy artillery or something"...


    Tom said, " Do dupes like Bauder and Al Associated Press"

    - Again, is there anyone the Right doesn't attack when they don't like the message. Woodward, the AP, NBC... why don't just bury your head in the sand with the Weekly Standard and be done with it.

    James: Olbermann came in dead-last in the 8pm time slot on Wednesday. How can you think for one minute he has a "growing popularity" when his show is now regularly in fourth place behind O'Reilly, Grace, and Zahn? If they mean "growing" as in the gap between the other shows and his grows wider as his ratings decrease, then yes, the article was correct. It's got nothing to do with me not liking the message, I dislike the message contained in this AP article because it is incorrect and leave the wrong impression on the reader. I believe it's called making a mistake. And I believe the media should be held accountable for their mistakes. And the writer of this article was in error because Olbermann's ratings have only declined since he began his raving & ranting. Yet not one single writer doing a story on him in the past month has actualy pointed that fact out and instead has relied upon data from either MSNBC publicists or Olbermann himself which cherry-pick information and fail to reveal the true state of his ratings which SUCK. If that's too complicated a concept for you to grasp, then I suggest you go back to your Weekly Reader.

    "And I believe the media should be held accountable for their mistakes. And the writer of this article was in error because Olbermann's ratings have only declined since he began his raving & ranting."
    ----------------------------------------------

    How many magazines and newspapers are there in this country? What is the most popular of them all? Nation Enquirer and The Star types. What does this tell you? That you live in a nation who is continuously duped by idiots that make judgments about God and country based on cultural teachings instead of logic and intellect. Fact is the "base" of the Republican party is loaded down with dumb Christians who think obesity is the norm and God keep's an eye on their hillbilly ass while letting a billion Muslims live in poverty simply because they were born into something other than a privileged western culture. Ten commandments 5th says honor your mother and father. Does it say not to if they are Muslims? Should a billion Muslims dishonor their parents by becoming Christian? No. So your sick mentality of God wants you to be rich and powerful crap that the Republican/evangelical mind set is the exact same mindset that Christians used to justify slavery. Tell me what you know about the history the oil rich nations of the middle east. Tell me why you think the hatred of Americans is better under your "Christian" president than before he got in power instead all you excuses. Fact is the worst thing this nation could have done was elect a president that was voted into office by the dumbest of Americans - bible belt hillbillies!

    All this arguing over KO's show is a vile and disgusting waste of time. Your a--hole in the Whitehouse has more than a billion Muslims chomping at the bit to kill you for the very reason you are here arguing trivial hog wash. CNN and Fox along with MSNBC are all corporate owned and all engaged in propaganda that serves corporations - not you!

    You guys are simplest of stupid a--holes just like the a--holes that fought tooth and nail to hold onto slavery and then segregation - bible toting ignoramuses!

    Who gives a flying fuck about a single news commentator when they all are selling us a bill of goods. This sight reminds me of two hillbillies arguing over which care is more classy - the 67 camaro or the 69 charger. Who but a bunch of hillbillies gives a shit?

    "(Difficulty: the hippies put up substantial legal barriers to nuclear power in the 70s and 80s. GWB has demolished some of them, but it'll take decades to fully recover)."

    How many times do we have to repeat it? The huppies did NOT do it, the GOVERNMENT did it! Stop blaming the wrong people.
    Len

    Classic Olby logic. Because tabloid magazines like the Enquirer exist your argument seems to be that who cares who gets the facts right? So that somehow gives him a pass to lie and get facts wrong on a nightly basis because he's spinning the news the way you want it spun? Sorry buddy but that doesn't wash with me. And if you were in your right mind, you'd realize the sheer hilarity of your pathetic attempts to justify Olbermann's screw-ups, lies, and distortions. May you and he one day see the light.

    Nothing like a bit of ...raving..."logic and intellect" from Ratings Kulture of the Klan Game...

    Oh, and P.S.? Your distorted view of the average GOP'er reveals a disturbing biased, prejudiced view. And you call yourself a liberal? Bet check your handbook buddy, you seem to be missing a few pages there on political correctness.

    Where did the writer call him/herself a "liberal" I was born and raised more christian conservative than any of you idiots. I just didn't happen to have parents that jumped onto the "us and them" metality you fools thrive on.

    National Enquirer only has the significance your arguement gives it - ie ratings based on audience size rather than demographic.

    Pin headed simpletons are so easy to flame!

    "Where did the writer call him/herself a "liberal" I was born and raised more christian conservative than any of ****you idiots.***** I just didn't happen to have parents that jumped onto the "us and them" metality *****you fools***** thrive on.

    *****Pin headed simpletons****** are so easy to flame!"


    Yeah, What You Said.... "you fools", "you idiots" and you "pin headed simpletons" is a better more broadminded mentality that the "us and them" one...

    (If THEY didn't exist WE'D have to make THEM up... :D )

    Johnny, he could buy about 30 seconds a show if he stopped pimping "his" book.

    So then you didn't make an argument based on quantity of viewers as significant? And then deny you did by down playing the use of this argument with the National Enquirer? What I am waiting for you to deny is your white southern protestant heritage?

    Calling you an idiot and a--hole stands and I invite you to use it all you want as a reference for how I think of you.

    "Calling you an idiot and a--hole stands and I invite you to use it all you want as a reference for how I think of you."

    No, thanks. "Doofus" describes you perfectly.

    So then you won't deny your heritage as being white southern protestant. Would care to deny your "Christian"? How about how old you think the earth is? 44,000 years old? Plate tectonics? Evolution? You know those that deny they are animals always fail to control the animal within. This is precisely why our planet is going to hell in a hand basket. Muslims and Christians both deny the animal within and both have the longest history of blood letting murderous war. The evil and dead know what I am talking about.

    Dumb idiots. Let me hear you deny your white Christian identity?

    "The evil and dead know what I am talking about."

    No doubt...


    Repeat after me:

    "I am not a typical republican. I did not adopt the white southern protestant mind set of - we need to have an enemy to ridicule to feel our standing in society is something other than kin of Klansmen."

    How about: "You can't label me Christian just because I like Bush, because I am an atheist."

    Or how about this: "I am not a white person totally naive about what it is like to live in a third world nation whose national wealth is controlled by western banking system."

    Uneducated means educated beyond your gullible white southern mentality of - there's lot's of us so we must be right.

    Who are the strongest people in the world, the ones who can survive on goats and dates are the ones who eat at McDonalds? Who are the most disciplined? Who have the most reason to hate who? How does your "Christian" mentality help you deflect these understandings? Is it the same exact way they did when Africans were sold like cattle by your bible toting Christian fore fathers?

    Show me some more of the love Jesus filled your heart with.

    I won't deny my God or my heritage for you or for any liberal hate-mongerer. You seem like a deeply disturbed individual with a high degree of hate in your heart. I suggest you get some counseling for that. It sounds like you really could use it.

    "Show me some more of the love Jesus filled your heart with."

    Glad to:

    You're a doofus.

    And P.S. again, last time I checked, several of us in fact, were born above the Mason-Dixon line. Again, I know it's easier for you to believe we're all uneducated southerners but the truth would show that we are well-educated, gainfully employed, and far less unprejudiced as you appear to be from your ranting and raving posts. Olby is that you? Nah, of course it's not Olby, he'd be making a Jew/Nazi joke if it was him posting here. Maybe you ought to have a word with your buddy about his hate-filled heart.

    "Who gives a flying fuck about a single news commentator when they all are selling us a bill of goods. This sight reminds me of two hillbillies arguing over which care is more classy - the 67 camaro or the 69 charger. Who but a bunch of hillbillies gives a shit?"

    NOW you have stepped WAY over the line.
    Us transplanted hillbillies out here in AZ argue endlessly about this.
    For the entire first 1/2 of the keg contents.

    However, as a group, we VERY definately DO agree about whose "care" is more classy.
    That would be the "care" provided by the other guy's wife.
    Which, as a simple lust, becomes far more important after 1/2 a keg.

    Sorry I digressed so much.
    I was going simply say,
    for all you'all's education and edification,
    whether right-wing or left-wing, or simply another a--hole "winging it",

    "All your bias are belong to us".


    Well, I don't see riverdog renaming himself "slap O'lielly".... or "slap that person arguing about VNA heavy artillery or something"...

    He called someone a fag

    Jesus gave me love in my heart and a .45 in my hand. The world is not going to hell from religion it is going to hell from lack if religion and the actions of secular progressives.

    So anyone that can throw the same crap you sling is full of hate and disturbed? But it's ok for you to do it?

    How about you demonstrate you're not an idiot, show me that I am wrong. So far you have confirmed my belief that you are a white southern protestant not necessarily by background but by culture, meaning you and your family could be from France but your personal identity is with white southern protestant culture. Tell me how Jesus guides you to respond to me with "get help" when I point out to you that you are failing to show me the love of Jesus. Is it that Jesus is the one I am having this debate with? Where did the attacking fool go that was here just before I brought up the love of Jesus? Are you that simple? You attack with bravado with a perceived group of backers but feel alone with Jesus and change your tone? Why wasn't Jesus with you from the beginning? When do we get to the part where you toss out some bible quotes like a wizard throws balls of flames?

    we need more people like "jesus is love" to post here to reveal the great truths that whitey is supressing from you. whitey doesn't want you to know how to free yourself--notice how the overwhelmimg white congress is trying to put a tax on the internet so only the rich top 3% can have all the information and control it?

    the real christians are the ones who stand up to southern redneck whiteys who are full of hate but try to to impress by memorizing scripture. listen to jesse jackson, louis farrakahan and al sharpton,they show true love for the poor than you racist whiteys. "jesus is love" -- keep posting here and show up the southern rednecks for klan worshippers that they are!

    Dan_P,

    You ignorant Arizona hillbilly. The '69 Charger is much classier, even if your own spouse is in it.

    "Jesus gave me love in my heart and a .45 in my hand. The world is not going to hell from religion it is going to hell from lack if religion and the actions of secular progressives."

    NOW WERE TALKING! There's the true love of Jesus and a coward. You won't be seeing me fluff myself up with a ".45" I stand on my own two feet fight with my bare hands argue with the brain of a human, not a slave of propaganda honed over 400 years of getting poor white trash to do the bidding of slave owners and the plantations they run.

    How many poor white men went off to die to keep slavery legal in the Civil War? And what if they won? Would Slavery have helped them earn a living wage in the south or undermine it? How do you get hundreds of thousands of poor white men to die for slave masters? How do they do it today? Through religion that's how - on both sides of the ocean. It is not a war between secular people you stupid a--hole it is a war between Christians and Muslims. Where the hell have you been? Are you next going to tell me that the US military is not 95% Christian? You demonstrate my argument beautifully!

    Thanks for the help here. Your a good man. A coward but a good man!

    And P.S. again, last time I checked, several of us in fact, were born above the Mason-Dixon line. Again, I know it's easier for you to believe we're all uneducated southerners but the truth would show that we are well-educated, gainfully employed, and far less unprejudiced as you appear to be from your ranting and raving posts.

    you know after i read what is below i can't help but agree with you. Why would anyone think you are a bunch of uneducated hicks? I mean look at the compelling case being built here.

    >could not get all your lies and bs into one >post could ya wannabee? The shit you talk about >you got from movies. Smokin pot and watching >Apocolypse now does not qualify you as "vetran" >you lying POS while you were pounding your pud >in the mud I was near the DMZ you whiny shit! I >told you did survival. If you ahd really done >any of the shit your say you would have caught >the montanyard clue. But of course you did not. >Maybe the ho chi trai, could have clued you in >punk but no, you let that one pass too. all the >shit you know you got from movies and I just >proved it.
    >is this how you get your rocks off? insulting >vetrans?
    >so THAT was your mamasan i nailed in saigon- >get over it you bastard son of a gook whore. >i'll bet your mamma so proud of her fi dolla >boy.
    >face to face- name the place. you talk brave >but you are just a punk little fag .

    are you just upset because gays can't legally marry show me the love? Why do you liberals hate jesus yet love talking nasty to reliious people. you sound like you need menatl help with your anger issues. Supposedely you liberals are tolerant but you don't sound tolerant to me. Tell me why you hate us so bad? Did you have a bad childhood? Are you having a tought time with your adolescent years?
    Jesus tells us that people like you should get help for the hate that is in your heart and soul. You need to get some help because you sound like you could very easily commit an anti-religious hate crime. Maybe you feel like burning a church or killing a nun or priest. Please get help sir before you hurt someone or yourself. At least pray for forgiveness of your sins and try to find love in your heart. Maybe you should go to church and at least confess your sins and ask for forgiveness. We will pray for you.

    Look, my parents are in town and I have to go to dinner at my daughters house and help watch my grandchildren while she cooks us dinner. I promise to be back later. You guys are great fun. I always love interacting with good christian people. Thanks for the love.

    Later

    >Jesus gave me love in my heart and a .45 in my >hand. The world is not going to hell from >religion it is going to hell from lack if >religion and the actions of secular progressives


    That's the problem in the middle east lack of religion. Man if we could only get some people in this world who take their religion seriously.

    OK, I confess. I am not really a transplanted hillbilly.
    I AM a transplanted real cowboy, earned in my youth.
    The cultures do have a bit in common.

    1. Your word is golden. Give it, and then abuse it, and you'd better leave "the territory".

    2. Guns. I have a LOT of guns. I've never sold or traded a gun I've obtained. And, I never will.

    3. I have two favorite quotations:
    A. "The world is full of data, much of it yearning to be analyzed."
    B. "You can NEVER have too much ammo".

    Real cowboys, and the "real working" white trash, have my respect.
    They earn it every day.
    And, you have to EARN their respect.
    With actions and deeds. Bullshit doesn't count.

    Speaking of which, there seems to be many VERY large piles around here.

    OK, I confess. I am not really a transplanted hillbilly.
    I AM a transplanted real cowboy, earned in my youth.
    The cultures do have a bit in common.

    1. Your word is golden. Give it, and then abuse it, and you'd better leave "the territory".

    2. Guns. I have a LOT of guns. I've never sold or traded a gun I've obtained. And, I never will.

    3. I have two favorite quotations:
    A. "The world is full of data, much of it yearning to be analyzed."
    B. "You can NEVER have too much ammo".

    Real cowboys, and the "real working" white trash, have my respect.
    They earn it every day.
    And, you have to EARN their respect.
    With actions and deeds. Bullshit doesn't count.

    Speaking of which, there seems to be many VERY large piles around here.

    >face to face- name the place. you talk brave >but you are just a punk little fag .

    How about your bedroom. i will be there this evening with your wife.


    "Maybe you should go to church and at least confess your sins and ask for forgiveness. "

    Oh please...Jesus says doofus take your meds.

    I will wrap up now, with one caveat. You say you will ignore me and not respond. I understand why. You can not afford to debate me about this, and you are a coward. Just more PROOF that you are a lying piece of crap. a spinless gutless wonder, that wonts to be a John Wayne, but is more like peewee herman.


    one more thing, you want to bring my mother into this, tell you what , we could get together for an up close and personal, and I could tell you what your mother, and animal husbandry have in common. did you grow up saying bahh bahh.

    I guess not, that would be your fathers kids huh

    you know after i read what is below i can't help but agree with you. Why would anyone think you are a bunch of uneducated hicks? I mean look at the compelling case being built here.
    yes. whoever wrote the above needs help seriously i agree with you anonymous people who like like this about being in the US military need serious therapy. some people may just be too ignrorant to help much though. People like you who spend hours monitoring website looking for people to attack and then lie about yourself. That's just plain wrong.
    i noticed after the river guy accepted the meeting you suddenly shut up- did not like getting called on your stupidity or could I sense a large yellow streak running up you back .Who do you think you are john Kerry? if you are then I am a swifboat here to expose your cowardice and lying. Did you shoot yourself in the foot like Kerry did to get out of the service. you sound all clucked up.

    "Speaking of which, there seems to be many VERY large piles around here."

    I have a favorite saying too:

    Doofus'es happen.

    Just try to step around the...stuff, Dan, and you sound like you're a good man.

    "I always love interacting with good christian people. Thanks for the love."

    No problem. We enjoyed doing unto you..big time...

    face to face- name the place. you talk brave >but you are just a punk little fag .

    How about your bedroom. i will be there this evening with
    why do latant homosexuals always sound like they are fascinated with normal sex acts?
    when will this board be moderated to remove the
    deviants?

    face to face- name the place. you talk brave >but you are just a punk little fag .

    How about your bedroom. i will be there this evening with your wife.
    why do latant homosexuals always sound like they are fascinated with normal sex acts? you folks sound mildly dangerous.
    when will this board be moderated to remove the
    deviants?

    "G. Monster: yes, except a large majority of US electricity comes from burning oil."

    Almost none of the US's electricity comes from oil. It's almost entirely coal, nuclear, natural gas, and hydro (in that order). Petrolium makes up 1.5%.

    http://www.eia.doe.gov/cneaf/electricity/epm/epm_sum.html

    "Dan_P,

    You ignorant Arizona hillbilly. The '69 Charger is much classier, even if your own spouse is in it."

    OK Cecelia, you win. About the cars.
    Providing you are not talking the "General Lee" '69 Charger.

    Actually, right now, my garage has a totally original and original paint '71 Camaro Z28 (black stripes), an '86 CJ-7 Jeep "rock 4 wheeler", and a '04 Corvette Z06 Z16 "Lemans Commorative Edition". The pickup and travel trailer have to reside outside.
    But, those are all different stories.

    In 1969, I AVERAGED 120 mph from Midland, MI to Milford, MI. In order to get to the resturant on time for my Saturday night birthday party, after my boss made me attend a seminar. In a 1969 Dodge Charger. Nice car. It belonged to General Motors. I belonged to General Motors too. I was NOT elgible for overtime. I may have been a "BIT" unhappy.

    The Charger did NOT have a Confederate flag on it. {:^)

    And, as far as "even if your own spouse is in it".
    I don't really think I'll buy that, since we separated last Sept., after 41 years of marriage. {:^)

    I will buy the "ignorant" part, if you will be so kind as to change it to
    "ignorant cowboy".
    Thanks so very much, in advance,
    Dan

    So I'm not misquoted, I never said anything about it taking oil to make electricity. I commented on how great it is to finally have an electric car that can do 0-60 in under 4 seconds.

    Hey, I know where "show me the love" received his inspiration--- remember this gem from the Orange Boy himself?

    Lloyd Grove reveals in Thursday’s New York Daily News that Olbermann was forced to apologize after his e-mails found their way to Grove’s inbox and exposed the host of "Countdown with Keith Olbermann" as insulting and frequently obscene in responding to viewers who taunted him.

    Two viewers told Grove that Olbermann responded to their charge that al-Qaida terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi was his "hero" by telling them: "Hey, save the oxygen for somebody who can use it. Kill yourself."


    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/15/151053.shtml?s=ic

    Of course, I'm sure that slipped out of Olbermann's mouth because of the influence of some white protestant uneducated hillbilly prof that he had at that bastion of conservative thought Cornell.

    Oh by the way "show me the love" please weigh in on the recent Nazi salute that Olby fired off in public to Bill O'Reilly and his subsequent admonishment by the ADL


    why do latant homosexuals always sound like they are fascinated with normal sex acts?
    when will this board be moderated to remove the
    deviants?


    When your mom stops slurping cock for crack

    hi, i just found this site. i've only read bits and pieces and i comment only on the small amount of material that i have read. i choose to post here because i can't think of anywhere better to do it.

    i was wondering. do you think perhaps that doing things like talking about KO's ratings, fake tan, and insinuating that he likes to dress up in womens clothing, could be working more against your credibilty than for it? why tarnish the good points you have to make with cheap shots? i'm eager to hear any response.

    -juice

    hi, i just found this site. i've only read bits and pieces and i comment only on the small amount of material that i have read. i choose to post here because i can't think of anywhere better to do it.

    i was wondering. do you think perhaps that doing things like talking about KO's ratings, fake tan, and insinuating that he likes to dress up in womens clothing, could be working more against your credibilty than for it? why tarnish the good points you have to make with cheap shots? i'm eager to hear any response.

    -juice

    We're merely using the same tactics that Olby uses every night during his hour of spin.

    now is that any way for an ex vitenam combat vet to talk?? Watching Rambo six times does not give you a purple heart.

    why tarnish the good points you have to make with cheap shots? i'm eager to hear any response.

    -juice

    Posted by: juice at October 1, 2006 10:08 PM

    Be cause cheap shots are what they live for. I makes them feel superior. And theu must feel superior.

    And while you're at it, perhaps you could explain why Olbermann felt it necessary to refer to Chris Wallace, a distinguished journalist, as a "monkey", a term that is considered to be a slur term against Jews. Wallace is Jewish.

    And then when you're done explaining that gem, why don't you explain why he felt it was necessary to keep making slams against Roger Ailes weight when Olby himself is quite weight-challenged? Is 'fat ass" now a term of endearment.

    As I see it, we only use tactics here that Olby uses himself. But this is just more of the typical liberal mindset of "it's okay if we do it, but no one else can do it to us." And you call us hypocrites? LOL. Too funny.

    Blah blah blah OLlbytard. blah blah blah Godless liberals. Blah blah blah why do you hate christians who love to torture people to death to make them feel safe. Blah blah blah fags liberals and retards are all coming to get us.

    blah blah blah anonymous is a liar and a chickenshit. go back to your closet assmunch

    Brian Stelter of TVNewser routinely links to Media Matters. Now that this item is posted in NewsBusters (http://newsbusters.org/node/8016), will he link to it? Of course not.

    "..will buy the "ignorant" part, if you will be so kind as to change it to
    "ignorant cowboy"."


    Not a chance, Dan_P.

    There's no such thing.

    It has to be tough right now if you were one of the sheep that followed along right into the path of the wolf now ready to devour your dreams of never losing power. It won't be long now. What a relief it will be to have these incompotent leaders held to account. The lies worked because the country was scared. They had their chance to lead. They sucked.

    psychic election predictions,paranoid hillbilly conspiracies,angry threats..You gotta love the net..

    Barging way off topic, as is my wont, to hijack the thread for my own nefarious purposes.

    '..will buy the "ignorant" part, if you will be so kind as to change it to
    "ignorant cowboy".'

    "Not a chance, Dan_P.
    There's no such thing."

    So, Cecelia strikes again ! ! !

    Well, sure sounds like you must "know the culture".
    This was an obvious attempt to "smoke you out".
    And, I win. But, so do you.

    I've known a LOT of cowboys who weren't "real high" on the IQ scale.
    Same for my characterization of "working white trash".
    But, they sure did know how to try, and just maybe get, what they wanted out of life.

    THAT is not ignorant. And, it's why I liked hanging out with them. And, still do.
    Even though my wife hated every last one of them. "Below her class".
    Which, of course, proved SHE has no real class. And, she's gone.

    And, cowboys and white trash mostly just didn't care AT ALL about national political games.
    Just their lives. Paychecks, the rent, the car, weekend fun, and hooking up.
    THAT is not ignorant either. Might as well die with a grin on your face.
    So, they are actually "smarter" than a lot of "posters" here. OK, maybe "most" of the posters. {:^)

    And, now for something completely different, back to
    "Talk Sex with Sue Johanson" on the Oxygen channel.
    She is SO "sincere" and SO full of "standard response sh_t" I just can't stop grinning.
    I'd love to take her to dinner. Just to see if she was really that "sincere". {:^)


    Just so everyone knows, given all my bullshit above.

    Keith Olbermann is about as far from the cowboy culture of individual integrity as anyone can get.
    And not be in jail for life.

    Although Marine Col. Jeff Cooper wasn't really a cowboy, just a REAL Korean war hero,
    he had the concept down perfectly at the "Gunsite" training facility he started,
    which is a few miles north of my house. The father of modern pistol technique.
    Sadly, he just died.

    The facility is a favorite with "spooks", both government and private,
    due to its realistic 360 degree "shooting scenerio" setup for training.

    The title of one of his books says it all:

    "To Ride, Shoot Straight, And Speak The Truth".

    I'll channel Col. Cooper's view of Olbermann,
    from the great pistol range in the sky.

    -- SPIT --

    Midland home of Dow Chem. Milford next to Camp Dearborn and the GM test grounds adjacent to Camp Dearborn. Novi, South Lyon 12 mile road.

    Driving all the way at 120 miles/hr would be an exageration.

    Guns and cowboys in Michigan? All hat and no cattle.

    You can always tell the men from the boys. The men need no talk of guns to hold a stiff upper lip. The boys can't talk tuff without the talk of guns simply because talking tuff requires some brains. The gun thing is like mother's apron - something to hide behind.

    Born and raised in Michigan, I know first hand how all the southern trash came up to work in the auto industry then moved north. The Michigan Militia is a perfect example of the degree of hillbilly infestation our state has absorbed through out it's history. I tell my friends here that Michigan is a southern state north of Detroit. Like I always said it ain't where you're from it's where you act like your from.

    "Midland home of Dow Chem. Milford next to Camp "Dearborn and the GM test grounds adjacent to Camp Dearborn. Novi, South Lyon 12 mile road."

    OK, you have some of the locations "pretty close" to correct, although "considerable" miles apart. Novi is way east of the Proving Ground. And, South Lyon is quite a ways south. Camp Dearborn is a couple of miles east of the MPG.

    My trip was from Midland, at a Dow facility at an I-75 entrance, to M-59, using I-75 all the way. I did not say I drove to my "home" in Milford, or drove to the Proving Ground, which would be M-59 to Hickory Ridge Road "south". Those would be "very difficult" destinations for that "average". And, insane on the two-lane roads.

    The restaurant was at the M-59 exit. OK, I "cheated" a bit. I did NOT say from parking lot key start to parking lot key stop. I calculated time/speed from on ramp to exit ramp. And, BTW the way, I was passed by two vehicles, one with a man smoking a cigar. Life was different in 1969. This was not the fastest "trip average" I ever did, although all of them were extremely stupid.

    "Driving all the way at 120 miles/hr would be an exageration."
    Your opinion, my data based on my description above. There is no defense for this anti-social behavior, other than to plead idiotic youth. Which is a little difficult at the age I was then. This was NOT the fastest trip average I ever did.

    "Guns and cowboys in Michigan? All hat and no cattle."

    That would be a "Texas saying", recently popularized by people with BDS.
    I never said I was a "cowboy" in Michigan. I never was.
    I said I grew up working on a cattle ranch.
    Which I did.
    And, which experiences sent me to engineering school to get an office job.

    Michigan was an absolute bitch to obtain and register a handgun. I did one. All my other guns came later, bought in the land of the free (AZ), or rescued from my father.

    So, as a real "Michigander", ever been down to the "New Hudson Inn" at Milford Road and Old Grand River. It's not a good place to "mouth off".

    See how much easier it would be to sort out "war stories" in person over a few beers ?
    Instead of responding based on assumptions.

    And, driving this thread FAR from the topic,

    All Hat:
    "You can always tell the men from the boys. The men need no talk of guns to hold a stiff upper lip. The boys can't talk tuff without the talk of guns simply because talking tuff requires some brains. The gun thing is like mother's apron - something to hide behind."

    OK, I have a concealed carry permit. And, I don't carry. And, I don't advertise that "I could if I wanted to".

    I got it so I wasn't violating a Federal Law "1000 foot distance" driving next to an elementary school on the way to my target shooting range with my target rifle unloaded in the trunk. The carry permit provides an "exemption".

    And, because I wanted to find out for myself how good the education and training was that was required. It was VERY good.

    I don't need to carry to feed my ego.
    Someday I may regret that decision.

    "Born and raised in Michigan, I know first hand how all the southern trash came up to work in the auto industry then moved north. The Michigan Militia is a perfect example of the degree of hillbilly infestation our state has absorbed through out it's history. I tell my friends here that Michigan is a southern state north of Detroit. Like I always said it ain't where you're from it's where you act like your from."

    "Southern Trash". "Hillbilly Infestation".
    Yes, there are definitely elements that qualify.

    Just like there are elements of "elitist snobs" who qualify as total a--holes.

    I know which group I'll take my chances on finding friends who will cover my back.

    I won't be trying to contact you.

    And, driving this thread FAR from the topic,

    All Hat:
    "You can always tell the men from the boys. The men need no talk of guns to hold a stiff upper lip. The boys can't talk tuff without the talk of guns simply because talking tuff requires some brains. The gun thing is like mother's apron - something to hide behind."

    OK, I have a concealed carry permit. And, I don't carry. And, I don't advertise that "I could if I wanted to".

    I got it so I wasn't violating a Federal Law "1000 foot distance" driving next to an elementary school on the way to my target shooting range with my target rifle unloaded in the trunk. The carry permit provides an "exemption".

    And, because I wanted to find out for myself how good the education and training was that was required. It was VERY good.

    I don't need to carry to feed my ego.
    Someday I may regret that decision.

    "Born and raised in Michigan, I know first hand how all the southern trash came up to work in the auto industry then moved north. The Michigan Militia is a perfect example of the degree of hillbilly infestation our state has absorbed through out it's history. I tell my friends here that Michigan is a southern state north of Detroit. Like I always said it ain't where you're from it's where you act like your from."

    "Southern Trash". "Hillbilly Infestation".
    Yes, there are definitely elements that qualify.

    Just like there are elements of "elitist snobs" who qualify as total a--holes.

    I know which group I'll take my chances on finding friends who will cover my back.

    I won't be trying to contact you.

    blah blah blah anonymous is a liar and a chickenshit. go back to your closet assmunch

    Posted by: hollow point law at October 1, 2006 10:36 PM

    Why do so many people here assume that everyone who doesn't agree with republican right wing political taliking points called a fag or a liberal queer? I don't think about "homo's" at all until I hear people ranting and raving how they are going to take over the country. Why are some of you so obsessed with them? Do you think about something else besides this? Seems a little gay to me.

    Ratings games was correct when he said "CNN and Fox along with MSNBC are all corporate owned and all engaged in propaganda that serve corporations - not you!" You have been brainwashed if you think there isn't big money behind all the big lies we have been told in order to keep certain people in power. Why are there so many people defending the loss of your rights and priviliges that have been fought for and defended by people who deserve a better future than the one thats waiting for us if we don't wake up soon.

    "Even though my wife hated every last one of them. "Below her class".
    Which, of course, proved SHE has no real class. And, she's gone."


    Along with two Jehovah's Witnesses and a census taker...

    His book is rated worse than his show
    Compared to Bill, he's always below
    Another defeat
    He just can't compete
    I hear Keith whining "say it ain't so"

    So, does this suggest that Chris Matthews does not have as much of a left-wing bias as Keith Olbermann?

    Good morning all.
    Hey, Cecilia, maybe you can help me out. I was just making a few posts yesterday on the CDW KO 09/27 site and addressed this very genteel, loving, articulate and persuasive Kulture of the Klan as Hey Doofus.
    I came to this site and see there is a 'real'? Hey Doofus? As you know, I just started reading and participating in blogs very recently. I'm not yet up to speed.
    My perception is that there are some people using multiple names, maybe a few sharing some names and maybe some people posting fraudently under other people's names. I registered at Newsbusters (very, very good site). It is remarkable for the lack of foulmouthed, snarling personal abuse. I would very likely have been rebuked for addressing Kulture of the Klan Hey Doofus.
    Any thoughts anyone?
    Personally, I promise to do my best to not resort to insulting name calling and language. As always, I definitely won't participate in graphic descriptions of my opponents and their mothers, children, pets engaging in anything. Aren't there enough appropriate places in this world to indulge yourself to your hearts content in whatever turns you on. Satire,sarcasm,pointing out logical inconsistencies etc are still on the table.
    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    PS Grammie, having spoken from her privileged place on high (He was very old at the time, but I personally knew Moses when I was a little girl) is going to have a double martini - vodka - on the rocks and prepare lunch. Now, play nice children. Grammie DOES NOT want to take out Grampie's belt when she comes back. I kinda enjoy whupping the s...* out of you. Its just it makes me tired these days.
    * Stuffing. You're not going to catch Grammie with her pantaloons down.

    Cecilia, 'fornicatings pecans'. I had to pour another. I spit the first one out laughing so hard.
    I propose an annual award. The Ladies and Gentlemen Annual Award. The first nominee TADAAAAAA Cecilia for the phrase*******fornicating pecans**********.
    Cecilia gave us all a lesson in how to be graphic and genteel at the same time.
    May I add that to my lexicon?
    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Sorry - See Cecilia's post I refered to above at stop scaring Kieth.
    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Janet,

    It seems the name changing thing is more pervasive than I thought.

    The only thing I'm certain about is you and me...and I'm not too sure about you... :D

    Do know...if there's ever anything posted under my name using the terms "ergo", "cultural construct", or "inclusive".... it's not from me...

    quite the matured intellectual riverdog.

    quite the matured intellectual riverdog. got your panties wadded by a pothead.

    Dear cecilia,
    You are right again. None of us can prevent others from presenting themselves fraudently and dragging us into it.
    Question: what does .......:D mean?
    I am completely computer illiterate (no comments please regarding other literacy). You have no idea how difficult it has been to get this far.
    I'm pretty sure I would be able to pick up a planted message from some. It can't be very easy to imitate style, grammar, spelling etc for very long.
    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    It's a lame thing people do when they want to convey a smile in this medium.

    Damnit Janet.... Some of you people will get the reference. Newsbusters is pure rightwing nonsense, they will kick any opposing opinion off immediately after you register if you have a dissenting opinion. I hate sites that only have one voice or one opinion. Is Newsbusters connected to that nutjob David Horowitz ? A pox on their server.

    In regards to the post about the klan: An inclusive study of American opinions regarding race in america has convinced me, that while we republicnas covertly use race as a way of stiring up our base, it is nothing more than a cultural construct. Real race differences do not exist and are frankly a silly way of classifying ourselves, the discrimination many of us may practice or feel towards arabs, or africans is nonsensical; ergo i am joining the democratic party and will live forever in harmony with my fellow man.

    Just teasing, don't get upset.

    Well at least you spelled my name right.

    Actually, alter-Cecelia, I've read that race differences are indeed non-existent. The only way to determine race genetically is by identifying for a glomerate of characteristics that in themselves are not race specific.

    Therefore I'm a Republican because I make no distinctions based on race.

    (and none on ethnicity, national origin, or geographics of birth... as some trolls do...)

    Kulture of the Klan has nothing to do with race anymore - correct. Today the Klan kulture is the duality of being in pursuit of the moral high ground while at the same time living in denial about the immoral pursuits of your political positions. The practice of living in denial stems from hundreds of years of bible in one hand chains of slaves in the other. This is the legacy of the klan kulture. Today the "base" of the repubs is the klan kulture. Today the corporate slave masters use the same tools plantation owners used to manipulate the "base" into fighting their war (slave owners war). Poor and middle class "Christians" of the southern protestant bent vote into office politicians that represent the wealthy elite instead of their "base".

    It is the gullibility of religious people that allow both Muslim and Christian leadership to send their followers to the slaughter to fight for causes that are not really justified by either side. i.e. Iraq had nothing to do with 911 yet the Christians pretend it does simply because they live in denial and can't face how badly they are being manipulated. Who else but the same people that send money to fat greasy TV evangelists could be suckered into such folly?

    Have you ever actually been to the South? As a lifelong resident, let me tell you that I have no idea in hell what you're talking about re a "Klan Kulture". I have never known a single soul who claimed membership in the Klan. Not one. You make it sound as if every white southerner has a white hood in their closet.

    So, what? This individual is a democrat! So what? Does that make this democrat's statement any less true? In my opinion, this piece of information tells me that this democrat probably tries not to be a bigot. No offense to republicans, but stereotypically speaking, some like Allen are probably sad that the confederates lost to the union.

    Just as in the case of Rosa Parks, who was a staunch civil rights activist before and after she stayed seated in the black area of the bus after having been told by the white bus driver to give her seat up. Some people said that by Parks being a civil rights activist, she and other people planned to have her stay seated on the bus and they allege that she is no hero, but I don't believe that is true. I believe that her long time commitment to civil rights made her strong and prepared her for whatever racism might impinge on her right to humanity.

    The same thing might be said for this "democratic activist" who might, just might want to prevent a racist bigoted individual who appreciates the history of the confederate (including the acceptance of slavery) from having a chance to run as the President of free people not enslaved blacks.

    >Actually, alter-Cecelia, I've read that race >differences are indeed non-existent. The only >way to determine race genetically is by >identifying for a glomerate of characteristics >that in themselves are not race specific.

    That is correct, or so I've read.

    >Therefore I'm a Republican because I make no >distinctions based on race.

    The south became the Republican base after the passage of the civil rights act. in large part because of its passage. So come on, join the all "inclusive" party! it's fun, and everyone is doing it!

    >and none on ethnicity, national origin, or >geographics of birth... as some trolls do...)

    Nor I, as some of the non-trolls do


    JT,

    You make it sound like the south went Republican the next year. Republicans helped pass the civil rights bill.

    I think Howard Dean, mentioned something about God, guns and gays... having to do with the south being Republicans.. He might be onto something, though he does disdain traditional bible-belt positions.

    I do remember one time he said something else that had merit about the DNC needing to find some sort of commonground with people who drove pickup trucks and had gun racks int the back. Raised a firestorm among those egalitarian dems who wouldn't be caught dead with that type...

    That something I don't understand. If I truly wanted to persuade someone to my point of view...coming to a blogboard and insulting everyone and a especially an entire geographic region would not be the way I played it.

    My bad...

    to all you pompous self righteous liberals who think that anybody that disagrees with your liberal lunacy is a bigot all I have to say is that I have lived in Alabama, Florida and Georgia at various times in the past 10 years. I have never seen or even heard of the Klan anywhere.I never even saw ANY racist groups .I lived in rural areas and in cities . The liberals that I have met have been more bigoted toward rural white people than the rural white people were bigoted against blacks.
    Liberals always loveto cry racism because thay can't have what few ideas they have stand alone. Liberas NEED racism to make themselves feel worthwhile and of course to get votes. Just like Jesse Jackson needs to keep racism alive to keep getting a paycheck.
    If liberals were sincere and correct about racism then why has every liberal policy and program along with spending billions of dollars created a system and beauracracy that perpetuates poverty? With all the effort and cries of racism there is more poverty to day than ever. Yeah sure it's George Bush's fault right?

    JT,

    "You make it sound like the south went Republican the next year. Republicans helped pass the civil rights bill."

    That's true an overwhelming majority in both parties voted for the bill. Although there is the famous quote from johnson "We just lost the south for a generation" interesting to note that kenndy who promised the bill was the last Democrat from the north to win the whitehouse.

    Still having said that (of which I am sure you are already aware), I don't honestly believe any thoughtful Republican is racist, nor do I believe that any thoughtful Democrat is a racist. I think they happen to have differnt ideas on how to approach the class struggle dividing whites and African Americans. I also think their are plenty of bigots in both parties to go around.

    What I think you are missing though is that i was actually not trying to insult anybody (Although I do my share of that) I was taking your comment about not using the words "inclusive" "ergo" and "Cultural construct" and creating a mock post, that is all; just being goofy. my tone was actually meant to be playful and not sarcastic. Race was the first thing thing that came to mind when trying to think of a cultural construct (probably because of the klan posts). They were not meant to respresent your opinion on the matter. I am not accusing you of being racist. So if I offended you: then sorry, I didn't mean anyhting by it.

    >I think Howard Dean, mentioned something about >God, guns and gays... having to do with the >south being Republicans.. He might be onto >something, though he does disdain traditional >bible-belt positions.

    I wouldn't say that is entirely true. Dean is pretty fiscally conservative guy who happens to be more pro-gun than a lot of democrats. he happens to be form the east coast and is therefore easy to label.

    >I do remember one time he said something else >that had merit about the DNC needing to find >some sort of commonground with people who drove >pickup trucks and had gun racks int the back. >Raised a firestorm among those egalitarian dems >who wouldn't be caught dead with that type...

    I seem to remeber that it was the comment of those that wave the rebel flag would actually be voting more in their interest if they voted Democrat. the people offended were African Americans who 9wrongly in my opiniion) were more upset about what that flag represents. Also that was during a primary and reminds me of some of the swifboating of Mccain during the Republican primary.

    >That something I don't understand. If I truly >wanted to persuade someone to my point of >view...coming to a blogboard and insulting >everyone and a especially an entire geographic >region would not be the way I played it.

    No doubt, when i do it, it has done nothing more than entrench the position of the person I have insulted. if anyone on the left or right is actualy trying to persuade then that doesn't help. of course tempers flare and the lables fly from both sides.

    KISSINGER ADVISING BUSH ON QUAGMIRE

    -- President Determined to Make Same Mistakes Again --

    NEW YORK -- Henry Kissinger has been advising President Bush and Vice President Cheney about Iraq, telling them that "winning is the only meaningful victory strategy". In response to charges that "Iraq is Arabic for Vietnam", Bush said, "Iraq is nothing like Vietnam -- Iraq is a desert, and besides, there's no Viet Cong in Iraq."
    .

    Jt,

    I'm sorry if I conveyed the notion that I thought you personally had been insulting. I see how you could only take it that way since I was speaking to you when I said it. I really meant the folks who come here and who jokingly or seriously say they are here to try and change minds and then seem to not care who they offend.

    You haven't been insulting. I've enjoyed talking with you.

    I agree with much of what you've said. However, it's my personal opinion that Howard Dean was "swiftboated" in a sense by the DNC leadership along with some in the media--- Chris Matthews (who I do like) comes to mind. I'm not at all conspiratorial minded, but I do think they thought Kerry a more viable candidate and engineer the silly bruhaha over Dean's "scream".

    "We just lost the south for a generation"

    That was 42 years ago. There's been two generations since who have been schooled and have worked side-by-side with their fellow southerners of all colors.


    The South is no more racist than many parts of the country.. The problem with the South is religion, but religion is a serious problem throughtout the World. Sure would be nice if people would wake up..

    O'LIELLY YOU ARE ANOTHER a--hole THAT NEEDS TO SHUT UP YOU AND YOUR LITTLE PILLOW BITER FRIEND COLBERT ARE WHINY LITTLE LIBERALS HITS
    I'LL JUST BET YOU ARE COLBERT- OR HIS LITTLE PILLOW BITING BOYFRINED
    SHUT UP YOU a--hole O'LIE YOU NEED TO CAN YOUR BULLSHIT AND TAKE IT ELSEHWERE

    Are you tools so-ill informed that the best insult you can come up with is calling someone gay ? I smell Rivermutt all over your post, down to the crappy spelling, and typing in caps may be just your way of covering up your nonsense. I think spellcheck is available on your Vic Commodore 64.

    Are you tools so-ill informed that the best insult you can come up with is calling someone gay ? I smell Rivermutt all over your post, down to the crappy spelling, and typing in caps may be just your way of covering up your nonsense. I think spellcheck is available on your Vic Commodore 64.

    AH YOU DOUBLE POSTED O'LIAR SO WE CAN READ IT TWICE NICE TOUCH LEFTARD BUT LIKE COLBERT NOBODY WILL READ YOUR STUO=PID WORDS OR RESPOND TO YOU ANY MORE . GET USED TO IT

    Por Little Colbert.. Please Kill Yourself. Your family is asking me to request that. Make them happy for once.

    O'LIE YA BETTER TAKE THE HINT AND SHUT IT
    THERE IS NO RIVERMUTT TO SAVE YOU LEFTARD
    NOBODY WILL LISTEN YOU OR RESPOND TO YOUR STUPID LITTLE FAGGY POSTS
    IT JUST YOU AND ME NOW O'LIAR
    JUST US AND I WILL MAKE YOU VERY WORD YOU POST HERE A LIVING HELL
    GO BE LEFTRAD SOMEHWERE ELSE
    ALL ALONE OYUA RE IN THE WILDERNESS OF MY MIND
    HAHAHAHA

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
    THE PILOW BITER MADE A FUNNY
    HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
    O'LIE YOU ARE THE WORLDS BIGGEST a--hole
    NOBODY HERE WILL RESPOND TO YOUR POSTS BUT ME
    GET USED TOIT
    NO PEACE FOR YOU COLBER-OLIELLY PILLOW BITER

    The Wilderness of your mind.,, shit if someone was to crawl into your skull they would hear crickets and feel a nice breeze.

    RICE: NO MEMORY OF CIA WARNING

    -- Enrolls In Memory Enhancement Seminar --

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she cannot recall CIA chief George Tenet warning her in July 2001 of an impending al-Qaida attack in the United States. Rice also does not recall Richard Clarke's urgent January 2001 transition memo titled, "The Al-Qaeda Network", nor the August 2001 presidential daily briefing, "Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S."
    .

    Oh good. I have enjoyed the discussion with you as well.

    So... you all have this website dedicated to one specific person: Keith Olbermann?!? Is it because Keith Olbermann primarily refreshes Media Matters?

    Well... the left can play this game as well!... It seems as though this Senator Imahofe guy is the Newsbusters equivolant of Keith Olbermann... you know... promoting Newsbusters research on the Senate floor and on C-Span.

    Maybe we will have a (first name forgotten) Imahofe watching website, so that when Mr. Imahofe does his own Keith Olbermann, we, the Liberal/Progressive movement can name our "worst person in the world"! LOL!

    HAHAHAHAHAHA
    THE COLBERT-OLIELLY MADE ANOTHER FUNNY
    HAHAHAHAHA
    NOBODY WILL RESPOND TO YOU WILL THEY ASSMUNCH?
    LONELY ISN'T IT? EVERYBODY HERE IS TIRED OF YOUR SHIT DON'T GO AWAY MAD JUST GO AWAY

    HAHAHAHAHA
    NEW TO THIS WWEBSITE HAHAHAH
    COLBERT YOU CAN'T FOOL ME
    IKNOW A PILLOW BITER WHEN I HEAR ONE
    NEW TO THIS SITE HAHAHAHA
    THAT'S FUNNY
    YOU REALLY ARE RETARDED AERN'T YOU ??
    RETARDED AND WHINY AND A LIAR YOU ARE THE PERFECT LIBERAL
    HAHAHAHAHAH

    Admit it: Senator Imahofe is to Newsbusters what Keith Olbermann is to Media Matters!

    I have never seen so many faggots on one website.

    I've always thought that Keith was gay..ie, suits he wears

    but seeing all you princess' obsessing over a man...

    GAY GAY GAY

    but hey. that's you thing. run and cut with it.

    You are the one obsessing... we are sticking up for the poor guy... take one good look at Keith Olbermann, newt time ... you know ... after the Anthrax scare, O' Reilly petition drive, low ratings claimers... you will see a battered and unfortunate Olbermann --- like the rest of the nation sees! ...

    juice wrote: "hi, i just found this site. i've only read bits and pieces and i comment only on the small amount of material that i have read. i choose to post here because i can't think of anywhere better to do it.
    i was wondering. do you think perhaps that doing things like talking about KO's ratings, fake tan, and insinuating that he likes to dress up in womens clothing, could be working more against your credibilty than for it? why tarnish the good points you have to make with cheap shots? i'm eager to hear any response."

    As you are new you do not realize that you are making the same points that have been made here many times before. I do not write about KO's skin tone or clothing preferences so let me address what I do write about - Keith's ratings. We report Keith's actual ratings because Keith (and MSNBC) routinely lie about this ratings in order to create the appearance that Keith is a "success" in the hope that this fake "momentum" will somehow translate into real momentum. We generally concern ourselves here with pointing out KO's many false or misleading statements. If Keith will stop telling lies about his ratings we will stop cover them. Clear enough?

    AND COLBERT IS TO PILLOW BITING WHAT "NEW TO THIS WEBSITE IS ALSO TO PILLOW BITING.
    COLBERT YOU ARE ABOUT THE DUMBEST MOTHERFUCKER I HAVE EVER SEEN
    NEW TO THIS WEBSITE
    MAN YOU ARE NOT EVEN A CHALLENGE
    YOU ARE STILL THE AWARD WINNER FOR WHINING
    DID JOHHNY DOLLAR SAVE YOU YET
    HAHAHAHA
    YOU a--hole

    Robert Cox: Keith Olbermann is not the one to pick on... Bob Barker, Nancy Pelosi, Oprah... they are the big shots ...

    EVEN IF OLBERMANN EVER TELLS THE TRUTH ABOUT HIS RATINGS YOU STILL HAVE THE FACT THAT HE LIES. HE SAYS HE IS A JOURNALIST HE IS NOT. HE SAYS HE IMPARTIAL HE IS NOT. HE SAYS HE HAS NO PARTY AFFILIATION YET HE PIMPS FOR THE DEMOCRATS DAILY.
    THEN YOU HAVE THE ISSUE OF HIS ARROGANCE , CONDSECNDING ATTITUDE AND THE FACT THAT HE HAS MICHAEL MUSTO ON HIS SHOW.
    SO YOU HAVE A WEBSITE FOR AS LONG AS OLBERMANN IS ON THE AIR SPEWING HIS LIBERAL CRAP.
    HIS HAIR WHICH IS STARING TO RESEMBLE JIM TRAFFICANTS AND HIS ORANGE GLOW JUST ADDS TO HIS ABSURDNESS.

    yeah. me obsessing. this is the first and last time i'll come to this website. since, instead of information it's just filled with a bunch of cackling hens that are truely obsessed with a "MAN"... you don't think that's gay?

    don't get me wrong. Olberman sucks.

    you guys "REALLY" suck....

    wahhhhhh olberman...wahhh olberman....
    take the dildo out of you asses and become real men. do something productive like learn how to blow up the world.

    stop obsessing over a man. a gay man.

    i'm sure he'll go out with you queens if you only ask...


    shit. he's last in the ratings. why do you care?

    answer: you're gay for him, that's your thing.

    just stay on your side of the fence.

    Billo: you are going to have to be more specific when you say "wahhhhhh Olbermann"...

    I do not care wether or not Keith Olbermann tells the truth about his ratings anyway... in this day and age... research is easy enough to do on your own --- no need to complain to the initial liar, Olbermann.

    YEAH! WEA LL THINK OLBERMANN-BOY IS GAY
    JUST LIKE
    "NEW"
    NEW TO THIS SITE"
    "COLBERT'
    "O'LIELLY"
    THEY ARE ALL GAY
    COLBERT YA STILL WHINING? YOU LITTLE PILLOW BITER
    THE SHADOW KNOWS HAHAHAHAHAH

    "shit. he's last in the ratings. why do you care?

    answer: you're gay for him, that's your thing.

    just stay on your side of the fence."
    --------------------------------------------
    This kind of commentary comes from the Mark Foley republicans - closet homosexuals that release their sexual fears by calling others gay. Standard fare for uneducated hicks. Olberman puts fear in closet homosexuals/homophobes simply because he calls things as he sees them. That is exactly what I am doing here. You can always tell the men that are confused about their sexuality - they project their fears in the form of attacks on others for being what they fear we see in them. We see it all right.

    POR Little Colbert: not as though your nickname does not give it away, but you are immature.

    The Mark Foley republicans really show their true colors with the constant references to gay sex. It is the demons of sexuality that haunt them. Guns and hunting, race cars and trucks are the safe subjects. They clam up when the conversation gets analytical fearing that others might get a sense of the secrets they hide within. These are the people that become the Jeffery Dahmers of this world. The bulk of serial killers come from the white southern protestant world of uncle rape and sexual demonization. Homophobia is literally about survival in their world. The attacks on personality types like KO's are common though out their social circles. Anyone that says it how they see it is a threat to them. Gay bashing is the logical response and done purely in self defense!

    Covering up: did you write this same statement on 2 seperate threads?

    Damn, first time I come on this site I run into Hanoi John Kerry the phony hero screaming about his great exploits in Cambodia (you know, the Hanoi John that was ordered to Cambodia by President Nixon before he became president)and someone that doesn't believe the liar, or he is right and the other guy is a liar. Not enough evidence to tell the difference. Could be the same guy arguing with himself. Democrats have that habit.

    Has either of those in the argument ever buried their ass and face in a shit ditch to duck the ChiCom copies of the (USSR) Russian 122 rockets with a few mortor rounds in between? Lots of them launched from bamboo tripods, that saved on weight when they carried them in. Been there, done that.
    Vietnam Vet
    1970-71

    Damn, first time I come on this site I run into Hanoi John Kerry the phony hero screaming about his great exploits in Cambodia (you know, the Hanoi John that was ordered to Cambodia by President Nixon before he became president)and someone that doesn't believe the liar, or he is right and the other guy is a liar. Not enough evidence to tell the difference. Could be the same guy arguing with himself. Democrats have that habit.

    Has either of those in the argument ever buried their ass and face in a shit ditch to duck the ChiCom copies of the (USSR) Russian 122 rockets with a few mortor rounds in between? Lots of them launched from bamboo tripods, that saved on weight when they carried them in. Been there, done that.
    Vietnam Vet
    1970-71