O'Reilly constantly kicks KO's butt in the ratings. Fox News in the #1 rated news channel. KO continually goes after Bill O'Reilly and Fox News on his show. Sounds to me like he has a serious jealousy complex.

Jealousy is an ugly thing.

I guess KO will just have to engage in a new "Special Comment", launch into more fat jokes about Roger Ailes or Send himself more soap flakes in the mail.

Yes Faux news gets better ratings... better ratings from people from the age of 55 and over. Please continue do not let facts get in your way.

O'lielly,

I will be sure to let the facts speak for themselves. That is why I provided the data with links to the source so folks can see for themselves.

And what they will see is that Fox News gets better ratings than the other networks in EVERY DEMO for ALL TIME PERIODS over the past several years.

O'Lielly I hate to be the one to break this to you but KO's average viewer is about 2 years younger than Olbys.

O'lielly, nice swing and a miss.

But...but....but....but....duh.

"Send himself more soap flakes in the mail."

eddie, if I could reach through this monitor I would slap you upside the head for such an idiotic comment.

"What about the vaunted "Demo"? As you can see, in 2004 Keith was getting a paltry 113,000 25-54 viewers. This year, so far, he is getting 146,000 which is a highly respectable 17% increase. Of course, in 2005 Keith had 142,000 viewers per night in the demo which is again a barely perceptible increase in demo viewership."

I am not a KO fan, but going from 113K to 146K is a 29% increase.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061010/NEWS01/610100398

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/10/07/america/NA_GEN_US_Children_Dead.php

Some practictioner of "the religion of peace" feels "disrespected" by his wife so he beats her, slits his eight year old sons and three younger daughter's throats with a hunting knife.
Candidate for worst person in the world? Not in Olbyworld, not compared to some Fox worker who put the wrong letter on the screen for a few seconds.
Who cares about Islamist honor killings in our heartland when theres a right wing media cabal trying to destroy America!

"eddie, if I could reach through this monitor I would slap you upside the head for such an idiotic comment."

*** If you like Olbermann, then you love idiotic comments. Besides, Eddie was just speaking truth to power!

well can i post yet?

. I just discoved this website but I have a question. Is this o'leilly guy your special ed short bus problem child? it's silly little no brainers like him who will help republicans gain seats in November.
Olbermann is so egocentric he probably did send himself soap flakes just to garner attention and sympathy. The way olbermann shoots off his mouth and makes enemies I think that soap flakes in the mail are going to be the least of his worries.

Jim,

You're right. I did the calculation in the table but read the wrong line. I will fix the post.

Why aren't all you Olbermann haters in the army fighting the evil doers. No. You think the real enemy is your fellow Americans who don't agree with your politics. You hate Olbermann but you think Rush is great. Fox news is the administrations press secretary. You don't have a problem with the double standard in their values. Homophobic gay bashing homosexuals! You have got to be kidding.

This post was about Olbermann's actual ratings. It was posted on www.olbermannwatch.

Codas busts in with "WHY AREN'T YOU NEOCONS IN THE MILITARY?!?!"

Way to illustrate why Keith's ratings are in the toilet.

I don't actually hate Olbermann. I love seeing him make a fool out of himself acting all "high and almighty." Hypocrite in the truest sense. Don't listen to Rush either. Seems to me someone is painting with a pretty broad brush here.

U.S. INTELLIGENCE DOUBTS NORTH KOREAN TEST NUCLEAR

-- White House Doubts U.S. Intelligence Doubts --

WASHINGTON -- U.S. intelligence agencies say that North Korea did not produce its first nuclear blast yesterday. U.S. officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that seismic readings show that the conventional high explosives used to create a chain reaction in a plutonium-based device went off, but that the blast's readings were shy of a typical nuclear detonation. In response, White House spokesman Tony Snow said, "There are bad people who want to kill good Americans while we sleep. Thanks to the invasion of Iraq, we are safer since 9/11, but we're not safe yet -- Vote Republican or Die."

Codas,

I was pretty sure of my point of view until I read your incisive comment but after thinking carefully about what you've said I have come to see you are right. I no longer want to be a gay-bashing, double-standard endorsing, chicken-hawk, hater.

Now, how does that change the reality of Keith's lousy ratings?

ZING!

Bob said:

"Candidate for worst person in the world? Not in Olbyworld, not compared to some Fox worker who put the wrong letter on the screen for a few seconds."

Bob, you miss the point. The POINT of the WPITW segment is NOT to focus on murderers, rapists or dangerous criminals. Rather it is to focus on people or agencies who make stupid, embarassing or just flat-out ridiculous mistakes when they should know better.

Have any of the Olbermann TV Critics ever addressed that KO rarely has right-wing or conservative opinion makers on his show?
I can't remember the last time i saw an actual debate on Countdown...is he the only Cable Show that doesn't allow "TV Dissent"?

I guess the best album of all time is Thriller by Michael Jackson.. the best movie of all time is Titantic.. the best food is McDonalds hamburgers, and apparently the best episode ever of TV was Dallas,, pretty silly huh.. so is judging merit based on sales or viewership. No one ever even attempts to dispute this argument.

It's in his contract.

O'lielly,

No one attempts to dispute an argument that is not being made. There is nothing I have ever written in any post on this site that equates ratings with quality. This post is addressed to a simple point. A point so simple I am sure even an OlbyLoon like yourself can understand - that the constant barage of KO Bandwagon articles in the MSM follow a predictable pattern of reaching for whatever data they can find to portray Olbermann's ratings in the most positive light, that while KO has had some modest gains in viewership the facts do not match they hype.

Anon,

I did not write what you say about WPITW but I think you are wrong about this:

"The POINT of the WPITW segment is NOT to focus on murderers, rapists or dangerous criminals. Rather it is to focus on people or agencies who make stupid, embarassing or just flat-out ridiculous mistakes when they should know better."

Whatever the segment started out to be, what it has become is a ritualized point in the show during which Keith will take time from delivering his "stylized" (read, "slanted) version of the news of the day to attack his "enemies". Does he does this every day? No. Most days? Yes.

RCox:

I wasn't talking to you. I was talking to the "Bob" who made a comment at 4:20PM.

Mr. Cox

Would be nice if you kept a list of all the things Olbermnann has done that would get other journalists fired, things he has done to get himnself fired, list of his career failures. Kind of an "at a glance" bio of this nutjob, with his own (obscene) e-mails, score card of quests who disagree, career misteps, etc. Keep it posted right on your front page. Would save a lot of splainin'

1. Called colleague Rita Cosby Dumber than a suitcase full of bricks (Spring, 2006)
2. Affair with... docuemented on Web
3. Confirmed with Brian Lamb on C-Span
ESPN: "No, I burned the bridges and the river." I'm the only person to have done that."
4. 14 contracts in 27 years. Lamb - "Now you have told somebody you have signed 14 contracts in your 27 years of professionalism."
OLBERMANN: Yes, CNN, one, two, you know, I think that's right -- that might even be low"
5. Called Roger Ailes a "...
6. Referred to Ann Coulter a..."
7. Fired in Boston for ....
8. Suspended by ESPN for...
9. Ratings placing on KTLA -last
10. Contract lenght at Fox Sports...- appeared on air for ____ % of contract .

I think at an a glance bio posted permananlty would just about refute anyone out here trying to defend the loon. It's he who runined his own career. Just post his own actions and words

Anyway - nice job with the site

Robert.. perhaps we should not allow college educated people write media columns anymore. There is a direct correlation between education and political affiliation. There is a simple reason KO is on at 5 PM against O'Reilly... O Reilly does not people he disagrees with to speak without being attacked. Yes KO's lack of confrontation makes the show weaker than it would be if he had guests that he disagreed with. I also tire of seeing the same guest so often, it is abundantly clear that MSNBC does not get much money from NBC and based on the ratings it is perhaps warranted. I really wish there was no talk of ratings because in my opiniopn they are pointless, and if BOR had not gone out of his way to start a petition to have MSNBC replaced perhaps the vitriol between the two would be lesser. As I am sure you are aware when KO was mentioned by Mike Stark on BOR radio show which led to the infamous.. Faux security comment which was perhaps the funniest thing to ever happen on radio. The call can be heard here.http://www.callingallwingnuts.com/2006/03/09/repost-bill-oreilly-threats-part-ii/

5. Called Roger Ailes a "...
6. Referred to Ann Coulter a..."
7. Fired in Boston for ....
8. Suspended by ESPN for...

==================================

If you can not say it, do not list it. Oh... wait... I forgot... this is Olbermann Watch.com...

O'leily,

I am sure you think you are making a point but, for the life of me, I cannot figure out what it is. Care to rephrase your comment?

KO Rules the ratings because he has the balls to speak truth to power - ya gotta love the guy. He's a true American hero.
Keith is the Edward R. Murrow of our generation.

Oh.. and I think I know why Bill O' Reilly maintains his 2.0 ratings all of the time:

O'REILLY:>>> Now, the reason North Korea is causing trouble is that it wants to influence the November election.

That is not a partisan statement. It is a fact. America's enemies are emboldened by the stalemate in Iraq and feel they can do anything they want to do. They also hate Mr. Bush and want to weaken him as much as possible.

-Media Matters For America

That is the kind of hearsay that keeps the conservative base strong. It is something that the right in their places. Something that they all love: hearing how much terrorists hate Bush and how much they supposedly love Liberals...

...I can not wait for this bias-party to end. These fraudulent Mainstream-bias claims, and this fear block against Liberal viewpoints, and this talk radio-based hyperbole. It is all just anhilating any good will in the right leaning public in all ways.

If Kim Jong Il exploded anything to support Bush ---which I think he did NOT--- then it would be Bush's call to explode it... and Bill O' Reilly would never ever say that. Bill O' Reilly only speaks things that make him look acceptable to his base... and his base is specifically the kind that loves to think that they are smart on history and relations --- EVEN THOUGH THEY DO NOT EVEN KNOW ABOUT MELE`MY!

The moral of this post? That Bill O' Reilly keeps his frothy shares based primarily on the fact that right wingers are gullible, impunable, and altogether FOX lovers. Need I say more?

I watch KO every day. But, I can't seem to get through a single airing without getting PO'd about something. I checked out this site to see if I could engage in some intelligent debate. I'm an Independent who believes in voting for the right person for the job, regardless of political affiliation.

I've been content to remain silent until now. My comment is for RagingGurrl. You may want to take a step back, sister. It's possible you can't see the forest for the trees.

RagingGurrl,

Yes, Olbermann would be the "Edward R. Murrow of our generation" if Murrow had used his news show as a platform for attacking and defaming his television competition.

If he had used it as a vehicle for issuing personal and utterly one-sided political screeds

If he had used it as a forum for unchallenged DNC talking points.

If Murrow would have begun an televised interview with a politician by handing off a check to the pol's favorite charitty.

But since Murrow didn't do anything even similar to these things... Olbermann is not remotely similar to Edward R. Murrow.

What Olbermann IS is an arrogant and egocentric man whose only real allegiance is to his own whims.

You know; I can understand why Olbermann and O'Reilly are hung up on the ratings - their livelihoods depend on them.

But when the blogosphere partisans of these personalities start using the fluxuation of viewership numbers as rhetorical arguments against one another, the whole thing gets rather tautological.

I've breezed through this website a bit today, and all I see is huffing/puffing re: O'Reilly's ratings, with a healthy dash of prudish recoiling from Olbermann's outspokenness. How about actually comparing arguments from each side and doing a little fact-checking?

I know it neocon-chic to see truth as a free-market commodity, but its not - despite what those existential beatnik/hippies like William Kristol and Newt Gingrich may say. "Torture" still means "torture" and "separation of powers" still means "separation of powers" no matter how many people vote for Clay Aiken and how many for what's-her-name.

Cecelia and RagingGurrl -- Complete lack of respect for others and/or over-aggrandizing is the reason why I've avoided participating in these forums. They represent two extremes, neither of which is based in reality.

Sir Loin of Beef -- Here, here on the fact-checking comment.

O'lielly is funny. I've never seen him win an argument.

B2,

How are my statements unrealistic?

HASTERT: THE BUCK STOPS HERE WITH MY STAFF

-- Soros, Pelosi, Democratic Operatives, ABC News, Speaker's Staff, All to Blame --

WASHINGTON -- Arizona Republican Jim Kolbe said Tuesday he told the House official in charge of the page program as early as 2001 about Mark Foley. Kolbe is the second person to come forward and say that top Republican officials had early warnings about inappropriate behavior toward pages. Kirk Fordham, Foley's longtime chief of staff, is expected to tell the House ethics panel Thursday that he warned Hastert's chief of staff, Scott Palmer, about Foley's inappropriate conduct with pages in 2002 or 2003. In response Speaker Hastert said, "I didn't think anybody at any time in my office did anything wrong," he said, "But if they did cover something up, then they should not continue to have their jobs."

Cecelia,

I was referring specifically to your line: "What Olbermann IS is an arrogant and egocentric man whose only real allegiance is to his own whims."

Very few people are wholly good or wholly bad. Hitler comes to mind (note: wholly bad). But, I seriously doubt either you, I, or KO fall into either category.

B2,

If you have no beef with my other comments and thus think they are realistic, then my statement "What Olbermann IS is an arrogant and egocentric man whose only real allegiance is to his own whims" is a valid observation.

That you somehow interpret that statement as having suggested that Olbermann has ZERO redeeming qualities, and THAT after accusing ME of "over-aggrandizing", probably means it's best if you continue to refrain from speaking up in "these forums"...

It's probably better that Rush hasn't been covered by the media more. When I read the stories that have been done I usually imagine the soundtrack of Jaws playing in my head as Rush's rapid growth is described. Or Elmer Fudd "Be Afraid, Be Very Afraid". In my old leftie days I actually was.

Air America? Good people telling truth to power which negates anything negative like, say, embezzling money from a charity. Because it's about the feelings, not the actions.

Cecilia,

I thought RagingGurrl was over-aggrandizing. I thought your comments were severe. Maybe I should have made that clear.

Although I felt you made some potentially valid points in your post, I am not an Edward R. Murrow expert. Therefore, I'm not qualified to respond to those references. That doesn't mean I believe they were realistic. It just means I don't know. Maybe I should have made that clear as well.

I did interpret your comments "as having suggested that Olbermann has ZERO redeeming qualities", which I why I posted a second time. If that's not the case, maybe you should have made that clear.

I wasn't trying to pick on you. I've seen much more severe comments on this site and elsewhere. You just happen to log in at a time when I finally decided to contribute.

You are correct. I should refrain from speaking up in "these forums." I can see where I could come across as someone with a holy-than-thou attitude; when, in truth, all I really wanted to do is raise the bar of public discourse.

Can The Krazy One actually post on this website while his show is on the air???
It is obvious that he his a regular on this site.

speaking truth to power, edward r. murrow of our generation, blah, blah, blah.......Think up something new raginggurrl, you're boring the hell out of everyone.

And yet another "truth to power" from sweetie. Isn't it about time to choose another sixties slogan to rehash? Truth to power is on the same level as he's got bling or fer shure at this point.

Sir Loin of Beef and B2,

Things change all the time on this site. Sometimes we have name calling and sometimes we have interesting debates on topics derived from Countdown.

If you want to make some fact-based intelligent argument then go right ahead. If you do not want to make it in the comment section then take me up on my long standing offer to debate me one-on-one on the topic of your choice (hopefully somehow related to this blog or topics on it). As I am smarter than an OlbyLoon and am always right about everything I enjoy a good debate as much as the next person.

Who's calling names, Robert?

As for debate; I haven't seen any evidence of anybody willing to talk about anything but ratings or biographical distinctions beween Olbermann and Edward R. Murrow. I've left a number of posts here today that have ofered a number of topics, but have recieved little response.

Who's calling names, Robert?

As for debate; I haven't seen any evidence of anybody willing to talk about anything but ratings or biographical distinctions beween Olbermann and Edward R. Murrow. I've left a number of posts here today that have ofered a number of topics, but have recieved little response.

SLB,

I did not mean that YOU were calling people names. Only that this is what happens here sometimes. And then other times you get good discussions. This is a blog with open comments. The quality of the disucssion ebbs and flows.

Try me - what did you want to talk about?

O'Lilley...a response, per your request

".. perhaps we should not allow college educated people write media columns anymore"...Does that mean you are against free speech?

"There is a direct correlation between education and political affiliation"...I have a Masters and am a republican. Condoleeza Rice has a doctorate and is a republican, I can go on with a lst like this for quite a while of highly educated republicans....therefore, if we stick to your statement as TRUTH TO POWER...then does that mean that democrats rarely if ever achive even a high school diploma?

Robert - Thanks for the offer. I did notice you are the voice of reason on this blog more often than not.

B2 wrote:

"I did interpret your comments "as having suggested that Olbermann has ZERO redeeming qualities", which I why I posted a second time. If that's not the case, maybe you should have made that clear."

I'm not responsible for your having jumped to an absurd conclusion.

No one has to play numbers game, they speak for themselves. As long as nitwit keeps screaming about Bush, O'Reilly, and Fox News the left will keep showing up to watch. A few thousand leftists is not a Tsunami. They have a short attention span and no money so, in the end his number will go back to what they were.