SSSSSssshhhh Keith is on... We speak your name.... All praise Keith.... 33% disapproval rating.. I cannot wait to see the movie " the killing of the president ".. damn I love fantasy movies where everything comes out great in the end.

SSSSSssshhhh Keith is on... We speak your name.... All praise Keith.... 33% disapproval rating.. I cannot wait to see the movie " the killing of the president ".. damn I love fantasy movies where everything comes out great in the end.

Olby, I don't think you should be questioning anyone else as to their sense of morality. That might come back to haunt you.

Tonight Keith is going to link Donald Rumsfeld's private sector position with ABB during 2000 when the company sold nuclear technology to North Korea.

The question is...will Keith mention that this was done as part of Bill Clinton's policy towards NK??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Rumsfeld

"In 2000 this company (ABB) sold two light water nuclear reactors to North Korea, as part of President BILL CLINTON'S policy of persuading the North Korean regime to positively engage with the West."

- The Clinton Administration is duped into helping North Korea acquire nuclear technology.

- The North Koreans renege on their agreements and begin enriching uranium.

- And now...somehow...it's all Bush and Rumsfeld's fault.

I'd love to talk to the moron (Madeleine Albright) who actually thought that North Korea would only develop "peaceful" nuclear technology. These are the same morons who think you can negotiate with Islamic Extremists.

Geez,, we sold the materials for the nukes to the NOKO's ? Amazing how being greedy evil bastards who let MNC's run the country always bites us in the ass. NOKO is lucky they do not have oil, we would have been there a long time ago if Exxon stood to profit.

Well.. Clinton was just a figurehead for the MNC's so why should that be a suprise. We need to nationalize a lot more companies. State ownership is the way to go

I would like to see James Dobson under the wheels of a semi... goddamn jesus freaks.. let the rapture kill them all now.

Yay namecalling!

We need to call the liberals more demeaning names.

Republicrat,, there are plenty of dems who are jesus freaks as well... people who believe in that crap are insane. HEY GOD.... FUCK YOU.... I AM WAITING FOR THE LIGHTNING... WAITING... STILL WAITING..

f Krazy Keith didn't mention Bill Clinton's ongoing business deals with the UAE during the Port debacle why would he through Bubba under the bus on NK???

ah,, nothing yet...

still nothing...

ha ha ha !!! look at you idiots trying to mock olbermann! ha! too funny! you people are pathetic, keep up the good work! I promise to return when I need a good laugh!

Just the truth.. glad I just saw that.. I mean afterall she was there.. you were not, so I guess we should believe Wikipedia ?

George W. pulled Bandar aside.
"Bandar, I guess you're the best a--hole who knows about the world. Explain to me one thing."
"Governor, what is it?"
"Why should I care about North Korea?"
Bandar said he didn't really know. It was one of the few countries that he did not work on for King Fahd.
"I get these briefings on all parts of the world," Bush said, "and everybody is talking to me about North Korea."
"I'll tell you what, Governor," Bandar said. "One reason should make you care about North Korea."
"All right, smart alek," Bush said, "tell me."
"The 38,000 American troops right on the border." ..."If nothing else counts, this counts. One shot across the border and you lose half these people immediately. You lose 15,000 Americans in a chemical or biological or even regular attack. The United State of America is at war instantly."
"Hmmm," Bush said. "I wish those a--holes would put things just point-blank to me. I get half a book telling me about the history of North Korea."
"Now I tell you another answer to that. You don't want to care about North Korea anymore?" Bandar asked. The Saudis wanted America to focus on the Middle East and not get drawn into a conflict in East Asia.
"I didn't say that," Bush replied.
"But if you don't, you withdrawl those troops back. Then it becomes a local conflict. Then you have the whole time to decide, 'Should I get involved? Not involved?' Etc."
At that moment, Colin Powell approached.
"Colin," Bush said, "come here. Bandar and I were shooting the bull, just two fighter pilots shooting the bull." He didn't mention the topic.
"Mr. Governor," Bandar said, "General Powell is almost a fighter pilot. He can shoot the bull almost as good as us."

Bob Woodward
State of Denial
2006

Bill O'Lielly,

Perhaps you need more facts instead of relying on Olbermann for your news.

ABB could not negotiate, sell and deliver nuclear technology to North Korea WITHOUT the Clinton Administration's approval...use some common sense. How old are you...12?

Wal-Mart? Olby, you are scraping the bottom. BOR is #1 on the NYT bestseller list.

Just the truth.. did you just see the woman who was involved with NOKO and the Clinton admin.

Olby tells a Buck O'Neil story about chasing much younger women. KO knows no shame. Did Katy wear a red dress, Olby?

Buck was 94 years old,, was he supposed to chase after 90 year olds... dimwit.

As usual, O'Lielly, you miss the point. Haven't you been struck by lightning yet?

no,, let's try it agin... HEY non-existant god... FUCK YOU.

Keep playing with fire, O'Lielly. Just like your god, Olby.

You Republicans need to quit drinking the Fox News Kool-Aid. Keith Olbermann merely tells you imbeciles the truth.

I remember a couple of years ago when 14 people on a religous retreat in the San Bernadino mountains were killed on christmas day in a flood after torential downpours.. Why did god want to kill 14 of his believers on the 25th of December ?

You goofy leftists have religion on the brain. Hate of religion can be a religion itself loonies.

KFK,, hatred of religion.. Nah.. I just feel sorry for people so shutoff from reality that they need to believe in a man in the clouds. Sad, really. I am going to start believing that Morris the Cat is the ordained priest from Holland from the 14th century... does that make it true ?

O'Lielly, put the bong down.

Isn't funny that all these sports guys who know all about what to do and how to coach, and how to hit that un-hittable fast ball--all never played sports-ever. Let’s look at crazy Keith----on his bio--it said the orange man tan was busy at 14 writing a book about coaching. Now while other 14 yr olds were out wasting their time--the orange glow KO was typing away inside with Mommy--instead of say--playing a sport like a normal kid. IN fact the orange man--who in his interview --err make out session with bj Bill Clinton--whose questions to the former president were drowned out by the slurping noises Olby was making in bj Bill's lap made a career out of talking about sports other people--not Olbytard-play.
Olbermann received a bachelor’s of science degree in communications arts from Cornell University. And this makes the most hated man at ESPN an expert in exactly what? Lets se--President Bush has a BA from Yale--and a MBA from the Harvard B School. What does man tan olby have again? Oh yea-----little olby went to a private big bucks high school------and the best the putz was able to do was Cornell? My pet Airedale could get into Cornell----and yes my Airedale unlike the sports guy god olby--plays catch ----unlike olbytard whose only sport is lap diving into bj Bill's lap at each and every chance he get s to suck up to said Mr. Clinton. So now MSLSD gives olbytan an hour to parrot Kos and the rest of the lefty tin foil hat squad? And olbytard still can't get the ratings Nachman and poor crazy Phil got?
Olbyloon and his big bachelor’s of science degree in communications arts, hmm---come to think of it--I have one of those--I was at the Mets game and dying for some cracker jacks----and instead of something useful like a decoder ring--or plastic T-Rex----all I got was a bachelor’s of science degree in communications arts from Cornell University----so I tossed it away with my empty soda and hot dog wrapper.

Olbermann is a Propagandist. he never allows alternate views on his show and is never challenged. He's not to be taken seriously!

O'Reilly has used the term "hiding under his desk" numerous times recently to describe the spineless. Hmmm... what other orange-tinted, prime-time "news" host with perennial low ratings has been know to hide under desks?

Why has Congress waited? The Secure Fence Act, which requires that the border barrier be constructed, is a very high priority for Republican leadership in both chambers. They and the White House want to schedule the signing for what they see as the maximum impact to the midterm elections. This means waiting for other stories to fall off the front pages. My source told me that the terrorist detention and interrogation bill will be signed on October 17th, and they want this to come after that.

Expect to see this get signed somewhere between October 24th and November 1st. The White House considers this bill a front-and-center accomplishment and wants the boost to last all the way through Election Day. Bush and the Republican leadership in Congress (especially Bill Frist, I'm told) want this to get as much coverage as possible. After the signing ceremony, expect to see this bill get trumpeted in the final advertising push for all Republican incumbents running for re-election.

from captains blog

1) Bill O'lielly, you are an idiot.
2) Perhaps I am missing something here, but what exactly did Olbermann lie about? Seriously, I did not read anything that johnny dollar wrote that showed how Olbermann was lying about anything.

All I see are a bunch of people using oh-so-funny names for him.

"Love means never having to say you're sorry."

LOL. This is Olby's relationship mantra. He practices what he preaches, apparently. How many more will step forward?

He sniffs jock because he never played
He stalks girl-fans so he can get laid
He sends obscene mail
He's been known to fail
NBC should consider a trade

O'Lamely: "KFK,, hatred of religion.. Nah.. I just feel sorry for people so shutoff from reality that they need to believe in a man in the clouds."

Or a mentally-challenged orange man in an ill-fitting suit, for that matter.

SSSSSssshhhh Keith is on... We speak your name.... All praise Keith.... 33% disapproval rating.. I cannot wait to see the movie " the killing of the president ".. damn I love fantasy movies where everything comes out great in the end.

Posted by: Bill O'lielly at October 9, 2006 08:06 PM

geez sure wish you felt that strongly about people who enslave 1/2 of there population(muslims) there ohh enlightened 1.

O'Lielly, you are "erroneous, erroneous."

i really wish that people could stop clinging to the notion that if we don't support the administration, we don't support the country

I love America very much, but I also think human life is a beutiful thing

so to me the fact that our President has sent over 2,500 Americans to their deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan is just as horrible and heinous as the fact that on september eleventh 2001, Al Qaeda killed over 2,500 Americans.

it is the death, and the pain and the hate that
is perpetuated by this administration that I am against. I believe that it is my duty to speak out against that

having thrown my two cents in, I bid you farewell, and I hope that my statements are not
going to be used to add fuel to an already roaring flame feeding off of the death and misery in America and the world

i really wish that people could stop clinging to the notion that if we don't support the administration, we don't support the country

I love America very much, but I also think human life is a beutiful thing

so to me the fact that our President has sent over 2,500 Americans to their deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan is just as horrible and heinous as the fact that on september eleventh 2001, Al Qaeda killed over 2,500 Americans.

it is the death, and the pain and the hate that
is perpetuated by this administration that I am against. I believe that it is my duty to speak out against that

having thrown my two cents in, I bid you farewell, and I hope that my statements are not
going to be used to add fuel to an already roaring flame feeding off of the death and misery in America and the world

i really wish that people could stop clinging to the notion that if we don't support the administration, we don't support the country

I love America very much, but I also think human life is a beutiful thing

so to me the fact that our President has sent over 2,500 Americans to their deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan is just as horrible and heinous as the fact that on september eleventh 2001, Al Qaeda killed over 2,500 Americans.

it is the death, and the pain and the hate that
is perpetuated by this administration that I am against. I believe that it is my duty to speak out against that

having thrown my two cents in, I bid you farewell, and I hope that my statements are not
going to be used to add fuel to an already roaring flame feeding off of the death and misery in America and the world

whoops, didn't mean to double post there

Sulaweyo: "so to me the fact that our President has sent over 2,500 Americans to their deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan is just as horrible and heinous as the fact that on september eleventh 2001, Al Qaeda killed over 2,500 Americans."

Look dope, what was your plan for Afghanistan? Leave the taliban alone? Why is it that I never see you lefties decrying the moves by appeasers like Carter and Clinton -- the moves that got us where we are? No, you idiots blame the guy cleaning up the mess. When you get termites in your house, do you blame the exterminator for spraying noxious chemicals around? Do you blame your surgeon for cutting you when he removes a cancer?

and you didn't double post, you triple posted you feeble minded lemming.

Ah, so I'm a dope because I lament the deaths of My country's citizens?

honestly, the Afghanistan invasion was justified, the Iraq invasion was not.

also, do the Termites you've seen carry automatic weapons that can kill the exterminators?

it also sickens me that Dehumanization of the people we're supposedly liberating is so complete that you can refer to them as a cancer

Iran should be wiped off the map!

M(ess)NBC is become so hypocritical, it's really beyond absurd, with KTO leading the way. Tucker(I-have-2-left-feet)Carlson's show, for instance, criticizes Fox news for typographical spelling error's and such but when I witness the same thing occur on his own show, he doesn't even correct it. In fact, I e-mailed his show previously regarding an incorrect date that was displayed on one of his segment's, asking him to correct the mistake and he didn't even acknowledge it. Instead, I receive some automated e-mail inviting me to join newsVIPs. When I attempted to sign-up, I get the message, "Thank you very much for your interest. The panel is currently full." It's full of something alright, BS!!!

o'leilly you self important twit! your not worth a lighntning bolt. your misery on this earth is enough pain, why waste lightning?

o'leilly i got you figured out. your super ugly(sorry for your luck). i mean a 3 bagger. this has made you embittered. this left you as an easy mark for the homosexual advances of a leftist professor. he boffed you, brainwashed you and sent you out to spew hate and vile. this is your form of spreading the ugliness you see in the mirror daily to as many people as possible. as mr. T said..."Pity the fool"
get help man they have sex change operations nowadays or suicide or plastic surgery. Quit yapping and do something.

Sulaweyo,

Using your logic, WWII was a total failure:

* 2,390 Americans died at Pearl Harbor

* U.S. enters WWII

* 400,000 more Americans died

sulaweyo said: "also, do the Termites you've seen carry automatic weapons that can kill the exterminators?"

So if the termites are deadly, you vote to leave the house! Good idea. Just leave until they come get you in the next house. You could write policy for the Democrats!

If Afghanistan was "justified" in your allmighty opinion, why did you bitch about it? Look, admit you are a scared little man and all is forgiven -- we'll do the fighting for you and you can watch "Will and Grace" with your frappuchino

I, as do ALL OF US ON THE LEFT, agree with Sulaweyo.

The Iraq invasion was unjustified and illegal.

Release Saddam Hussein and quit torturing Al-Qaeda !!

** Democrats in '06...supporting the rights of Al-Qaeda against the evil Republicans **

well, there are several things wrong with that statement.
first: I don't think that world war two is a proper comparison, The nazis and imperial japan had annexed most of europe and eastern asia

second: the American military servicemen who gave their lives in WWII were facing a technological equal.

third: I happen to think the Deployment of U.S.
troops to Europe and the south Pacific
was entirely justified

okay KfK you want to hit below the belt, don't expect me to keep the gloves up either.

you were a bit frivolous in referring to the Taliban and Al qaeda as "termites"

i'll simplify my statement so as not to be again misconstrued: have you or any of your family members ever been on active duty, or even in a branch of thwe military at all?

Sulaweyo,

Did you think Clinton's military action against Iraq in 1998 was justified?

and to answer your question to KFK...I have 3 relatives in the military (active duty/retired)

ZING!

ah, here we go. a question that isn't wrapped in a personal attack against me.

no, I didn't think the bomboing campaigns in '98 were justified either

Interesting...

btw, I did.

What about the 1991 action against Iraq?

"The Iraq invasion was unjustified and illegal."

How many U.N. resolutions does it take (authorizing the use of force) before an invasion becomes "justified" and "legal"?

-Last count was 17...

and yes, I too have three family members that have served in the military (3 on the retired list, 1 honorably discharged)

Ah, so I'm a dope because I lament the deaths of My country's citizens?

honestly, the Afghanistan invasion was justified, the Iraq invasion was not.

also, do the Termites you've seen carry automatic weapons that can kill the exterminators?

it also sickens me that Dehumanization of the people we're supposedly liberating is so complete that you can refer to them as a cancer

Posted by: Sulaweyo at October 9, 2006 10:18 PM

Your a bleeding heart Sulweyo or a posuer. Either way because of the nature of our enemies, fighting and death are happening already. What you hate is now the people who spread death are finally paying a price. You wanna quote some death figures? OK. 42,000 killed on our hiways yearly. should we quit driving too? Dont fight because they shoot back? You are a chicken without the hawk.

damn typos, Four family members that have served.
sorry

on the highways the deaths are mostly accidental
the same can't be said of the deaths happening in Iraq and Afghanistan

Anonymous...you don't know the half of it...

16,000 Americans are murdered by Americans here in America every year.

We need to surrender our positions here in America also...we have lost.

Sulaweyo,
What would you do if Iran was wiped off the map?

well, if by Wiped off the map you mean ceasing to exist at all i'd wonder where the hell that stretch of real estate went

Sulaweyo,
What would you do if Iran was wiped off the map?

1) Bill O'lielly, you are an idiot.
2) Perhaps I am missing something here, but what exactly did Olbermann lie about? Seriously, I did not read anything that johnny dollar wrote that showed how Olbermann was lying about anything.

All I see are a bunch of people using oh-so-funny names for him.

I really wouldn't be able to do anything, in the grand scheme of things all of us pissing and moaning on this comments page don't have a lot of control over what happens on the Geopolitical front

We get it haydesigner... it wasn't funny the first time you posted it.

Sulaweyo would lament the unfair technological advantage we have. Since the Iranians arent on equal footing. Hey maybe we should give up in-door plumbing too.

LA's a quagmire. So is Detroit, Baltimore, DC, Cleveland, Chicago......Deep Blue quagmires. You know why? Because it would be un-fair to arrest criminals who victimize their neighbors. So the neighborhoods are violent and un-safe. Good old progressive thinking is easy from your gated community or secure condo. The do-gooders create chaos and then bitch when others have to clean up after them.

You know how many leftists it takes to defend the US?

Nobody knows its never been tried.

Bill O'lielly:

You are a sad, miserable, little weed of a person. You are irrelevant and unnescessary.

I don't need to send lightning to punish you, I need only to ignore you for the insignificant little speck of slime that you are, and let you live. Your unhappiness and suffering is punishment enough...

GOD

"You know how many leftists it takes to defend the US?"

* Posted by: Welfare is Slavery at October 9, 2006 10:59 PM

You misunderstand Lefty logic...

According to Lefty logic, we don't need defending against outside enemies...WE are the enemy. WE are the cause for all that is wrong in the world.

Sulaweyo,
I advocate wiping Iran off the map!

heh, the neighborhood I live in is hardly a gated community.

and why the hell should I have answers to the questions I raise?
if I had the bloody answers I never would have raised the questions.

Dear Red wolf:
I really don't care that you advocate wiping Iran off the map because it's not yours or my decision to make

Seriously, Sulaweyo- no name calling/sillyness...
WHAT is your plan/proposal for what we should actually do?

Iraq?
War on Terror in general?

I saw a protest, organized by the group ANSWER, on c-span shortly before we went into afghanistan in 2001. The left's hatred of America could'nt have been clearer. During the march, the protestors were chanting "fuck america and all it's might". There was another line to the chant but i can't remember what it was, i'm sure c-span has it in it's archives if anybody wants to check it out. I apparently was'nt the only one who saw it because it was shortly after that when liberals and the political left in general started to receive a lot of attention about their anti-american tendencies, even from the main stream media. Once it became clear that people were seeing ANSWER and other liberal groups for what they were, all the upside down american flags and american flags with swastikas that had been there during the first protest, disapearred, for the most part, from subsuquent protests. So you'll have to excuse me if i just don't buy into the new found patriotism that democrats claim they have these days.

LawStudentSteve,

I, as do ALL OF US ON THE LEFT, have repeatedly answered those questions.

We can start with releasing Saddam Hussein and surrending our positions in Iraq.

Then we can begin a dialogue with Al-Qaeda to determine their "beef" with us.

And when we come to the realization that they believe that their God wants them to kill all infidels (us) and that there is no hope of ever living peacefully side-by-side, then and only then we will be able to give in to their demands.

** Democrats in '06...ball-less since 1910 **

I really have no idea on how to rectify the current shitstorm in iraq

the war on terror however should probably be fought less with bombs and more with diplomacy.

the situation in the middle east is horrendous and it's the product of several hundred years
the western world's screwing around in other people's territory

I don't condone terrorism.

however the way we go about waging our war could just as easily be seen as terrorism by our enemies

and I'm pretty much done discussing this, I'm probably just going to get my knickers in a twist like most of you already have

Well, Sulawey- at least you're honest. However, I feel your "less with bombs and more with diplomacy" statement is a bit simplistic.

Diplomacy like the kind we had when Madeline Albright shook hands with North Korea when they "really, really, no finger's crossed" promised not to develop nuclear weapons?

Diplomacy like 17 U.N. resolutions (authorizing force) against Iraq?

Diplomacy like the strongly worded letters that the international community send to the leader of Iran when he calls for wiping Israel "off the map"?

I'm just saying that - love it or hate it - sometimes, we must fight. Its that simple.

Sulaweyo,

As soon as you figure out a way to convince millions of Muslims (extremist and moderate) that Jews are not "evil"...let me know.

They don't necessarily hate us...

They hate Jews...

And therefore they hate us for NOT hating Jews...

I happen to believe that when someone says, "My God wants me to kill you because you're an infidel"...there is no hope for negotiating with his belief. I must therefore kill him first.

Truth your right as always. Red i'm with you on Iran and North Korea too.

So Sulaweyo your hardly in a gated community? Ok. But alot of you do-gooders are. And let me tell you first hand when a do-gooder on a parole board lets the bad guys out early, they go right back to their old neighborhoods and terrorize those who wont or cant move out. So they bar their windows and stay off the streets after dark. If their lucky they have a weapon to defend against attack. Then when theres a fire in those old neighborhoods people always burn up. Because they had to bar the windows for security. Compassion has a high price. But i'm guessing the parole board members dont live in crime ridden heighborhoods. So they continue the cycle of violence. You wanna crusade against something that causes american casualties try starting with life without parole for sex offenders and all murderers. Death penalty preferably for murderers. That would sure save alot of children from predators. Most high profile sex crimes are from people who in a sane world would never have been free to begin with.

Progressive ideas kill!!

You wanna crusade against something that causes american casualties try starting with life without parole for sex offenders and all murderers. Death penalty preferably for murderers. That would sure save alot of children from predators. Most high profile sex crimes are from people who in a sane world would never have been free to begin with.

Progressive ideas kill!!
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What crock of shit! Bush and the criminals that pull his strings have just gutted this nations caufers spending now up to nearly 400 billion dollars on Iraq. They have shifted the tax burden to the middle class and leave communities and whole states without the funds for complete law enforcement. The idea of thinking that more treasury dollars goes into welfare for the poor rather than richest familys and corporations in this nation is pure Rush Limbaugh hog wash garbage. You need to get some education outside of Hannity and Limbaugh.

"the war on terror however should probably be fought less with bombs and more with diplomacy.

the situation in the middle east is horrendous and it's the product of several hundred years
the western world's screwing around in other people's territory"

Spoken like a true liberal. The middle east has been a violent anti-female, anti-jew, anti-christian province for 1300 years. We cause none of it. We have enriched their countries with dollars. Helped them with technology, medicine, and water scarcity. We are the good guys. They on the other hand enslave their women, raise their children on hate. Their rulers keep all the wealth and keep their citizens bare foot and pregnant. The state controlled media in those countries along with the education system keeps their hate focused on tthe US and the West as the cause of this. It couldnt be further from the truth. As mentioned above the rulers loot all the oil wealth. And were the bad guys? i dont think so. But you and the under-educated brainwashed citizens of those countries buy the US is bad line.

Weaver the self deciever. from limbaughs site but from IRS data: Only the Rich Pay Taxes!

The Top 50% pay 96.54% of All Income Taxes
The Top 1% Pay More Than a Third: 34.27
Dont decieve yourself. The successful pay for the less motivated. I wish it werent so but its is. Its the Kennedys Kerrys Rockefellers with all that inherited wealth not paying there fair share Bucko. And answer me this how come those mentioned above avoided the inheritance taxs. Beacause do as i say not as i do liberal hyppocrisy. Thats why.

Congrats, Weaver- you win WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD tonight on OW!!!!

You posted the perfect tolerant, diversity loving message. And we all know how libs love tolerance and diversity (except in ideas)!

Let's run down the check list, shall we?

*Name-Calling: CHECK (criminals)
*Hyperbole: CHECK (gutted this nations caufers, whole states without the funds)
*Delusional: CHECK (The idea of thinking that more treasury dollars goes into welfare for the poor rather than richest familys and corporations in this nation is pure Rush Limbaugh hog wash garbage)
and Weaver makes a good case for a NEW category-
*Profanity! (shit)

Way to go, Weave- you are tonights WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD (cue spooky music)...

WoW... a 30 min break in the discussion... is this thing on?!?

Habeas Corpus? Sounds nifty..Blimey,How do I get some of that?

The Top 50% pay 96.54% of All Income Taxes
The Top 1% Pay More Than a Third: 34.27
Dont decieve yourself. The successful pay for the less motivated. I wish it werent so but its is.

Posted by: Welfare is Slavery at October 9, 2006 11:44 PM

Do you think the reason the rich pay a higher percentage is BECAUSE THEY MADE MORE MONEY. You dream of being one of them but you never will be. If it wasn't for the working class that works for crumbs and buys there "stuff" where would the rich be. They make a nice dollar in this country and they should pay a nice dollar for the privilige. I don't hold anything against a man who was motivated and made a buck. Good for him. If you take the percentage of my income and every thing that I am taxed on I will bet you I pay a higher percentage than the rich bastards who you think are so wonderful.

Habeas Corpus!? Alright get me a Columbia U lawyer!! Let's rock this courtroom!! Oh no wait, this didn't happen either... )-:

Just the Truth wrote: "and to answer your question to KFK...I have 3 relatives in the military (active duty/retired)"

Nice answer, only I didn't ask the question -- your pal Sulaweyu did. That is the question every leftists asks. If you answer yes, you are a murderer. If you answer no, you are a coward. Serves them really well.

Sulaweyu is unfortunately incapable of understanding analogies. How could he be expected to understand anything of importance?

Codas, why do you hate the rich? You write:

"If you take the percentage of my income and every thing that I am taxed on I will bet you I pay a higher percentage than the rich bastards who you think are so wonderful."

Are rich people a separate species? Aren't they people? They weren't all born rich, were they? Don't they invent things (like the Google boys) or provide things (like the evil Wal Mart criminal family)? You sound like Hugo Chavez. Just see how well class warfare has worked for the poor in Venezuela and Cuba. Hate for the people who give you a job is not too smart, but you are not too smart, so it all makes sense.

Who said I hated the rich? I just don't like it when I hear that bullshit of they worked hard and you didn't so tough luck. A lot of people work hard and never get rich. I am not on welfare but i don't see myself inventing the next google or wal-mart. I could work myself to death and I will be lucky to have just what I need. I don't need to be rich, And I aint kissing their rich ass for the privlige of living in what they think is their country because they pay all the taxes. Who fights all the wars? Them? If they paid there fair share of taxes, all our taxes would go down.

Are rich people a separate species? Aren't they people? They weren't all born rich, were they? Don't they invent things (like the Google boys) or provide things (like the evil Wal Mart criminal family)? You sound like Hugo Chavez. Just see how well class warfare has worked for the poor in Venezuela and Cuba. Hate for the people who give you a job is not too smart, but you are not too smart, so it all makes sense.

Once again exact words of Rush Limbaugh. Talking about the work the rich the do to get rich. Let us not forget that the republicans have called "better buying power" our ability to by Wal-Mart quality goods. While ignoring the cost of prescription drugs and medical care. Never in modern times have more children of working parents been without access to medical care. The tax breaks for the rich are for the very rich. The national debt is a loan to the rich in the form of tax breaks and the loan will paid back by working class people that have less and less ability to own a home (not the same as buying one) or have affordable medical care. The so-called Christian voters have put in office a group of criminals that can do wrong simply because this class of people suffer from - you guessed it - Democrat Envy!

Cry me a river, Coduh...

From IRS data:
*The Top 50% pay 96.54% of All Income Taxes
*The Top 1% Pay More Than a Third: 34.27

The numbers were similar under Clinton as well.
But, please- be a good liberal and DON'T let facts get in the way of a good rant!

Who names themself "law student steve"? A law student? I don't think so. You know who does this, it's those fools with Democrat Envy!

Look out KFK- its almost 1am, and if you look at this site's postings from this time on (on average) its when the Olbyloons team up with the DUmmies and others to post, post, post.

You see, its the optimal time when conservatives (you know- those evil "neocons") go to bed... 'cause they have jobs (damn those rich!).

Anyway, at least they appreciate the fact that WE LET THEM POST. Most of the liberal sites either don't allow postings/feedback or censor/remove it (I'm talking to YOU Colorado Bob- you big pussy!).

So, for all you left-wingers, let me help you start off your nonsense:

*Bush is evil (Hitler, dumb, or stupid will also be acceptable)
*The people on this site are just a bunch of _____ (please choose from: brain dead zombies, repug-licans/repugs, and the ever popular NEOCONS. Yeah, neocons- that's always a good one.)

Don't forget the elements of a good liberal post-*Name calling
*Hyperbole
*Delusional
and for extra points-
*Profanity.

Good night and Good Luck you crazy bastards!

Stay Classy, San Diego.

Codas:

"A lot of people work hard and never get rich. I am not on welfare but i don't see myself inventing the next google or wal-mart."

Well it ain't all about you. Maybe your kids will invent or do something other than pester normal people on the world's best Keith Olbermann site. Then will you call them a--holes and demand they fork over the cash so you can buy lottery tickets and beer? As for "fair share of taxes," the rich pay nearly all of it. They also fund the cancer centers and other philanthropic entities. There are some asses out there like Theresa Heinz Kerry who play socialist on camera and pay 12%, so I have no problem with you badmouthing her. She still pays more than 99.9% of Americans. Anyway, why am I wasting time with a poor dimwit like you? I should be talking to a smart rich person instead.

As for "Democrat Envy" saying my words were someone elses, they were my own. And as for RICH REPUBLICANS, look at the richest members of congress you complete idiot:

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/06/13/senators.finances/

"The top three wealthiest senators are Democrats: John Kerry of Massachusetts, with a net worth of at least $164 million; Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, with a net worth of at least $111 million, and John "Jay" Rockefeller of West Virginia, with an estimated net worth of at least $82 million."

Hurray for limousine liberals and millionaire socialists! Elect them, and you will get to watch them party while you pay more taxes and lose ground to other countries! Hurray!

*The Top 50% pay 96.54% of All Income Taxes
*The Top 1% Pay More Than a Third: 34.27

Partial data strait from the Rush Limbaugh law students who suffer from Democrat Envy.

The above data leaves out all the changes in laws that have allowed most of these "top tax paying" corporations and the rich families that control them to make billions in this nation with price fixing. The pharmaceutical companies have achieved a new status in the Fortune 500. They have profited more than the other 499 combined. This is the result of price fixing - via government passed laws that republicans have been behind simply by being in control of congress.

And the profits of the oil corporations under Bush - highest in the history of the nation for any industry ever! All Under Bush and the Republicans.

You Rush Limbaugh garbage is just that - garbage. Radio disc jockey educated fools suffering from Democrat Envy!

Your Christian claims are as pathetic as your understanding of economics and politics!

Holy base = evil politicians

Go, Envy- Go!
You're soooooooo much smarter than us- and not at all condecending!

You go girl!

"Go, Envy- Go!
You're soooooooo much smarter than us- and not at all condecending!

You go girl!"

Sound like a law student or guy in a Security guard uniform playing on the company laptop while their pit ball barks at noises outside the trailer.

It's called Democrat Envy

Christian voter = evil politics

Envy,

by the way- your Howard Dean/MoveOn/Daily Kos talking points are MUCH better than our Rush Limbaugh garbage.

Sweet Georgia Brown, you are so damn smart!

"Go, Envy- Go!
You're soooooooo much smarter than us- and not at all condecending!

You go girl!"

Sound like a law student or guy in a Security guard uniform playing on the company laptop while their pit ball barks at noises outside the trailer.

ZING! You got me again!
JEEEEZE! Does your wit EVER cease?
Please, please- more... MORE!

You need to take your act on the road! You'd be a HIT! Just like Air America... oh, wait- they're not a hit... they're DEAD LAST by every measurable account.

Just like Krazy Keith!

and what's a pit ball?

Sorry- don't mean to question the "Envy" - 'cause (or is it Kos?) you're soooooo witty.

And smart.

And sexy- do you have any pics of you in fishnets?

...hello? Envy- you still there?

That's all you got? A bunch of neocon jibes and misspelled insults? Come on... at least throw in a "BUSH IS HITLER" reference...

Law student comes mainly from prison life. This is where dirt balls get their formal legal education. Excons actually are good source for law information.

And it only took you 3 post with me to swing it around to the homosexual tendencies that also comes from prison life.

Having democrat envy is nothing to be ashamed of but your soliciting with sexual anecdotes is.

Notice the silence on the link I posted, where all the rich Democrats are listed. I can see "Dem Envy" staggering around with blood pouring from his nose while groaning "does not compute." After all, he is a pre-programmed lib-bot, incapable of dealing with inconvenient truths.

YES! There she is! Great job... you have officially completed all of the requirements for liberal postings on conservative blogs- let's run down the check list:

*Name Calling: CHECK
*Hyperbole: CHECK
*Delusional: CHECK
and- for bonus points- homophobic slurs!

YES! A perfect liberal post! Great job, ma'am! You may now report back to your DU/MoveOn/Kos superiors.

Oh, no- KfK, you'll not hear from our witty friend on any actual facts... she only likes to "hit and run"...

Once the name calling and dem talking points are out, they're spent!

Maybe they need to test their propaganda in a North Korean tunnel before throwing it on this blog.

Well, its off to bed (for real this time).
You have the con, KfK... don't let litle girls like Envy take this hill on your watch :)!

Awhhh poor thing. Do you think you might return here for more abuse on November 9th. I promise to misspell some more words so you can use that for ammo in your envious pursuits.

You got it, cutie
xxxooo
-night

I need to go as well, but here is one last fact:

TOP SENATE MILLIONAIRES:

John Kerry, D-Massachusetts: $163,626,399
Herb Kohl, D-Wisconsin: $111,015,016
John Rockefeller, D -West Virginia: $81,648,018
Jon Corzine, D-New Jersey: $71,035,025
Dianne Feinstein, D-California: $26,377,109
Peter Fitzgerald, R-Illinois: $26,132,013
Frank Lautenberg, D-New Jersey $17,789,018
Bill Frist, R-Tennessee: $15,108,042
John Edwards, D-North Carolina: $12,844,029
Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts: $9,905,009
Jeff Bingaman, D-New Mexico: $7,981,015
Bob Graham, D-Florida: $7,691,052

LOTS OF D's in the top!

Pack mentality, same thing as going to church in Alabama or Mississippi? You can always tell the guys who have half a brain - they seek out others of the same dysfunction and seek atonement for their short comings only when they have others at their back. Me? I don't need such things.

We all will have a real fun come November. I promise to be here.

TOP SENATE MILLIONAIRES:

John Kerry, D-Massachusetts: $163,626,399
Herb Kohl, D-Wisconsin: $111,015,016
John Rockefeller, D -West Virginia: $81,648,018
Jon Corzine, D-New Jersey: $71,035,025
Dianne Feinstein, D-California: $26,377,109
Peter Fitzgerald, R-Illinois: $26,132,013
Frank Lautenberg, D-New Jersey $17,789,018
"Bill Frist, R-Tennessee: $15,108,042
John Edwards, D-North Carolina: $12,844,029
Edward Kennedy, D-Massachusetts: $9,905,009
Jeff Bingaman, D-New Mexico: $7,981,015
Bob Graham, D-Florida: $7,691,052

LOTS OF D's in the top!"

I love this. Who but millionaires can become Democratic Senators? We all know how the Republicans get to be Senators - they sell their soul to the devil and take money from large corporations. The Dems don't have this as a choice. They have morals, the Republicans wish they did which shows in their constant references to god and Jesus. Total garbage man. Try again!

I don't center my life on how much money i make or how much I pay in taxes. I don't care if some of my tax dollars go to pay for someones free lunch or health care. I don't blame or envy the rich. I wouldn't mind having money but I don't want it if it comes at the expense of somebodys broken back. If making money makes you happy, knock yourself out. But don't cry about how much you pay in taxes. You will die and the worms will eat you just like the poor who you think your so much better than. I pity people who love money. You can't get enough of what you love, so you'll never have enough.

You got it, cutie
xxxooo
-night

Posted by: LawStudentSteve at October 10, 2006 01:37 AM

This guy is the poster boy for the envious excuse makers that frequent here. Always bringing things back to overt homosexual tendencies.

Smooth move - you rule!

People have the president they deserve

I missed the beginning of the show so don't know exactly what happened in the first part.

"those polls that Olbermann has ignored for weeks because they were going in the wrong direction"
You've brought this up so many times, so I wondered if it were true. However, my research indicates it is just your usual spin. From what I have found KO reports polls infrequently (about 1 a month, even in the periods you have mentioned). When he does, it seems to be because of some event occurring (such as this Republican sex scandal).

" 'do nothing diplomatic stance' re Korea (a preposterous characterization"
OK. What has this administration done in regards to diplomacy?

"while [Shuster] predicted it would get bogged down"
He did not do that, nor did he predict Hastert would resign by Wednesday.

"Krazy Keith worried that all this talk about a coming GOP disaster might be overstatement."
If he such a liberal, why would he be worried that it was an overstatement? Wouldn't he want it to be true? Or is he just simply discussing politics?

"Politics changes quickly. A week can be a lifetime. Don't count your chickens before they're hatched. A stitch in time saves nine. Love means never having to say you're sorry. Life is like a box of chocolates."
LOL. That was funny. Stupid, but funny and it served to keep you from having to mention anything else, like
What no mention of the "scathing denunciation of the Bush foreign policy" by G.H.W. Bush's foreign policy advisor. Oh, that's right, his critique of Bush's lack of diplomacy might be proof of that "do-nothing diplomatic stance."

"of what the rest of the world considers a failed policy toward North Korea"
I'm sure, of course, that you have the hard numbers on that, and that you will dutifully post them, right?

" bragging that among all political books sold just at Wal-Mart stores, he was #2"
I realize that conservatives, especially neo-cons don't understand humor, but certainly you have to understand that KO was being facetious. I mean "among all the social science and political books" – LOL.

"But he said not one word as the price of gas continued to fall"
Why bother, everyone knows it. If he did, he should correctly point out how convenient it is that gas prices have fallen so low when the Reps are in trouble. And in doing so, you would, no doubt, criticize him.

Anyway, that's enough.

"People have the president they deserve"

Tell that to the millions of working parents who have no ability to afford medical care for their children. You ever have a child? You have kids? You know what it is like to put a child to bed at night who is sick as dog and you know if you take them to a doctor you will be pushed over the fincial edge and your credit if you have any will be ruined. You know what a lab tests costs these days? Or hospitalization?

Your comment demonstrates the depth of your ignorance.

Gotta go John Stewart is about to start.

People have the president they deserve"

Tell that to the millions of working parents who have no ability to afford medical care for their children. You ever have a child? You have kids? You know what it is like to put a child to bed at night who is sick as dog and you know if you take them to a doctor you will be pushed over the fincial edge and your credit if you have any will be ruined. You know what a lab tests costs these days? Or hospitalization?

Your comment demonstrates the depth of your ignorance.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 10, 2006 02:00 AM

A lot of people who post here about money and taxes and how terrible the liberals are have no clue of what it is like to worry about being financialy ruined in a blink of an eye. They don't have a clue what a human life is worth other than dollars. Thick and selfish. And even worse, they look up to people who make the poor look foolish and lazy. They probably never worked an honest day in their life.

hey poor people with sick children, listen up. go to the nearest emergency room and get your child some of the best health care in the world. you can pay later. compliments of the best country ever. your welcome.

"Castro another one of the Bushs perceived bogie men" Keith WHAT THE HELL DOES THAT MEAN ?

Someone help me out here. "Perceived bogie men", WTF does that mean ?

I just found out about this pathetic site. Ha Ha. Do your heads hurt from too much logic and real patriotism? Do you want Keith to stop talking so that you can stop all that painful thinking?

Well, you're out of luck. Crawl away - crawl back up O'Reilly's ass where you can curl up in steamy comfort with his most salient thoughts.

To "Welfare is Slavery":

I think it means: a leader of a weak, tiny, and impoverished nation that is presented to the American people as an existential threat to the way of life in our huge, powerful, and prosperous nation in order to facilitate through such propaganda our own leaders' attritional deconstruction of ...the American way of life!

see: "Emmanuel Goldstein"

Oops. the post above was not in response to "welfare is slavery", but to "Brian", who asked: "Someone help me out here. "Perceived bogie men", WTF does that mean ?"

Sorry for the confusion, you pack of deluded fascist goons.

Oops. the post above was not in response to "welfare is slavery", but to "Brian", who asked: "Someone help me out here. "Perceived bogie men", WTF does that mean ?"

Sorry for the confusion, you pack of deluded fascist goons.

Oops. the post above was not in response to "welfare is slavery", but to "Brian", who asked: "Someone help me out here. "Perceived bogie men", WTF does that mean ?"

Sorry for the confusion, you pack of deluded fascist goons.

Oops. the post above was not in response to "welfare is slavery", but to "Brian", who asked: "Someone help me out here. "Perceived bogie men", WTF does that mean ?"

Sorry for the confusion, you pack of deluded fascist goons.

"Deluded fascist goons"? WTF does that mean. Oh that’s was a response from a tolerant liberal who is open to all points of view ?

It’s a dangerous world folks. And not because of the likes of North Korean or Terrorism, but from the wacko views that this “new left” is expounding. I mean I use to consider myself to be “left of center”. These people are “left of WACKO”

I wonder if Olby will name Chip Reid and MSNBC wpitw tonight for THREE TIMES in one report this morning just after 9 AM talking about the TOM FOLEY sex scandal. No, I'm sure that's just an honest mistake (actually I'm sure it is) as opposed to Fox News intentionally mixing up party affiliation on a graphic because of "Democrat Envy."

Of course, that would also run in conflict with the new MSNBC policy of attacking Fox News and CNN on every show for every mistake.

LOL Love your blog Mr. Cox! You should consider doing an MSNBC Watch. The whole damn network is full of sheisters, as in David Sheister!

I had hoped that when Dan Abrams took over at MSNBC, he'd restore some objectivity to the network, but it's actually gotten worse. I'm wondering if Joe Scarborough was ever even a Republican. The SoB seems as intent on peddling unfounded propaganda as his liberal idiot cohorts, Olby, Slippery, and Matthews.

MSNBC really lost its way when Jerry Nachman died. Too bad they learn anything from him.

Boy, the freaks really do come out at night. I think Bob should close the blog and disconnect the server from 1:30AM to 6AM!

Codas deserves special mention. First he attacks the rich, then he tries to back track, all the while insulting the rich again. Make up your mind Codas -- do you hate the rich or do you REALLY REALLY hate the rich? Angry at the people who make you feel inadequate are you?

Winner of the insane lefty post of the overnight was "anonymous," who believes there are so many rich Democrats in Congress because Democrats can only get elected if they are rich. That comment is rich! Seems to me the George Soroses of the world are willing to spend tens of millions on your candidates. Problem is the candidates are miserable limousine liberal failures (like Jean Francois Kerry). People generally see through them. Just keep having kids and maybe you and your brood of nincompoops can change that.

Also, let me see if I have this straight. As I understand it the official KO/DNC position:

Bush is bad because he didn't get multi-national cooperation on Iraq.

Bush is bad because he tried to get multi-national cooperation on North Korea.

Is that that right?

Talk about can't win for losing. Do these people even listen to eachother talk?

Speaking of which, noted KO defender Radmod wrote: "He did not do that, nor did he predict Hastert would resign by Wednesday."

BUT, from the Wednesday, August 4 transcript of Countdown, as posted on MSNBC.com: "SHUSTER: It‘s already started, Keith. And, in fact, tonight, we‘ve been told by every lawmaker, every Republican lawmaker we‘ve called has said that Dennis Hastert will not be the speaker of the House this time next week."

You're right, Radmod. No claim by Schuster that he'd be gone by this Wednesday. Again, do you guys even listen to eachother talk?

"Every Republican Lawmaker we've called..." Perhaps Sheister should've said "All two Republican Lawmakers we've called". Sounds like Sheister's sources are the same as he had for his Karl Rove conspiracy stories.

"Every Republican Lawmaker we've called..." Perhaps Sheister should've said "All two Republican Lawmakers we've called". Sounds like Sheister's sources are the same as he had for his Karl Rove conspiracy stories.

Keith's ilk is the Sheehans and Smalleys
He's the host of the moonbat follies
Viewed with great pain
And total disdain
Watch Keith jack-off Clinton for jollies

Oops, reread my above post, and typo, it was the Wednesday October 4th transcript. Not August 4th.

Sorry

Scott,

Official DNC positions:

1. Democrats believe all people are dirt bags deserving multiple chances to steal cheat and lie, hence all the Democrat indescretions are a-OK since they are expected. Republicans believe in accountability, so their indescretions are the height of hypocricy and should be highlighted

2. All problems started with Bush in 2000. All problems will end when Bush leaves in 2008

3. Membership in the "Global Community" is more important than economic prosperity and national security. If we join the Global club, we will be safe and happy and get to play Bingo with Ahmadinejad and Canasta with Castro.

4. Patriotism = Fierce opposition to ones country, especially in the face of attacks from others

5. All Republicans are evil religious fanatics who hoarde money and use poor people as slaves (see socialist class warfare playbook for details)

Scott,
Thank you for posting the transcript of what Shuster said in order to help me prove my point. Shuster never 'predicted' anything.
He said "we‘ve been told by every lawmaker, every Republican lawmaker we‘ve called has said..." This is not a prediction, it is REPORTING. To quote JD "to say otherwise is disingenuous."

BTW, I realized you meant Oct., not Aug. Unlike some I realize that people sometimes make mistakes. It's when they are intentional that they are lying.

I think you need to re-read J$'s posting, Radmod.

The only reference to Schuster and predicting I see above is that "while Slippery predicted (the investigation) would get bogged down."

The part about Hastert's resignation: "Shuster did not reference his statement of last week which, if taken seriously, would mean that in the next two days, Speaker Hastert would be out of his job." Statement. Not prediction. J$ didn't say otherwise. He said Shuster made a "statment" last week.

It appears your premise is based on combining to sentences referring to different subjects.

hey poor people with sick children, listen up. go to the nearest emergency room and get your child some of the best health care in the world. you can pay later. compliments of the best country ever. your welcome.

Posted by: Welfare is Slavery at October 10, 2006 07:19 AM

Only an incredible selfish a--hole would say something that stupid. You are a very sad person. I aint thanking you for nothing. I pay taxes also. Your words speak for themselves to anyone who has any humanity.

Codas deserves special mention. First he attacks the rich, then he tries to back track, all the while insulting the rich again. Make up your mind Codas -- do you hate the rich or do you REALLY REALLY hate the rich? Angry at the people who make you feel inadequate are you?

I would NEVER feel inadequate to people like you. As a matter a fact, everytime I read some of the postings of persons like you I feel better about myself. Like I said, I don't care about your money loving ass. I just hate to hear your crying about paying taxes. I don't cry over it, so which one of us has an issue with money. I went to college also. I have a job and I have healthcare. I'm just not a selfish a--hole like some people.

You are all just crying because you know that your deluded dream of running the country forever is over. This country is sick of your lying homophobic "but very gay when it comes right down to it huh" greedy and just down right stupid ways. You are stupid if you supported the people that bankrupt this country. Stupid and guilty. You make me sick.

Codas, you really are silly.

In your post you assume I am:

#1. Rich
#2. A College graduate
#3. Crying about paying taxes

No wonder you have so much trouble comprehending the site! I have never talked about myself in the above posts. I have expressed disdain for socialism and class warfare. Seems that if you can't be rich, nobody should be.

Why you have to imbue me with the attributes you so despise is another matter, and of utmost interest to behaviorists and psycopharmacologists everywhere.

I'm new to this site, but not new to reading through other wingnut sites. It's funny how on every rightie site there are always folks still using the same ole "B B B but Clinton" argument. It's time to move on folks, Bill's been out of office for 6 years.

Hey...all Olbermann apologists...an intellectual exercise....

I challenge you to defend Olbermann's Worst Person segment last night...10/9....based on the following negative assessment from your's truly.

WPIW "bronze" for 10/9/06 was Bill O'Reilly for slamming the Cleveland Claims Dealer. Olbermann claims O'Reilly slammed the paper, "for publishing a negative review of his novel." Lie.

If you go to MEDIAMETTERS and play the video they put forth as evidence, O'Reilly clearly says he went much further than Olbermann implies and asked the paper why they did not clearly identify the reviewer as a member of the leftist and very biased MEDIAMATTERS.

O'Reilly received a letter from the paper's editors stating they felt they had erred and, "did our readers a disservice." Did you know that COUNTDOWN viewers?

Ah, the left wing propaganda continues through the deplorable Keith Olbermann. He makes the quick remark that O'Reilly's book, "sucks" and makes another snarky remark about 30% going to Andrea Mackris....Nice, classy...(oh, how I hope karmabites turns out to be true!)

So Olbermann lovers....Was this what a studious, intelligent, classy journalist does? IMO, no...Olbermann shows us all, once again, his childish, envious and pettish personality.

The part about Hastert's resignation: "Shuster did not reference his statement of last week which, if taken seriously, would mean that in the next two days, Speaker Hastert would be out of his job." Statement. Not prediction. J$ didn't say otherwise. He said Shuster made a "statment" last week.

au contraire, mon ami.
Now I don't recognize your nick so you may not be aware of the ongoing spin by JD. Last week, JD referring to Shuster's reporting said "Olby gave Shuster a chance to do some damage control and back off his prediction".

Now, as you have no doubt noted, I had said, "nor did he predict Hastert would resign by Wednesday." I made no claim that JD said, in this post, about such a prediction. Instead, I used it as a counter-balance, indicating that this time, as well as the last, Shuster made no 'prediction."

However, I could easily make the claim that JD was. He prefaces it with 'predicting' things will get bogged down, followed by the 'statement' last week, which JD termed a 'prediction' and never clarified/rebutted.

The whole idea is to make it appear that Shuster is a pro-Democrat analyst who makes predictions, not a reporter who is reporting what is going on. Typical JD spin.

Please note that JD also had said Joe Scarborough had 'predicted' a Dem landslide in the elections. From what I remember of the interview, Scarborough did predict, that is he gave his opinion. Shuster is not giving an opinion.

And then complains bitterly when someone allgedly gets the "facts" wrong about him.

Comment on the post by Scott. I saw the march by ANSWER a few years ago led by Ramsey Clark, traitor and should be shot and Sadmam lawyer, and NY City Councilman Charles "Everytime I see a white person I'd like to slap him" Barron. Barron said if the fed gov. did not give them economic reparations for slavery they were prepared to use force. I've never seen a bigger collection of losers and clowns other than the DNC.

I know there is a God because of people like O'Lielly. Their pure hatred shows what a person is like without God. Their constant mistrust of everything and their insecurities show what a life without Faith and hope leads to. His constant use of name calling shows how small of a person he is who has trouble keeping his own Simple Simon life from falling over the edge. These people have trouble the minute they step out of their sandbox.

Look, Olbermann is just the left's equivalent of Papa Bear or Rush. Of course he's not news. News is not equal to editorials. I THOUGHT cons would have figured that out by now. It seems one cannot slam Olbermann without also slamming Papa Bear, Rush Limbaugh, and their ilk. It's meant to be persausive and, as all digesters of conservative propaganda SHOULD know, it is not always pleasant to include all of the "facts" when trying to be persuasive.

I frankly would like to see Olbermann invite conservatives on to discuss issues. Let's see an ACTUAL debate! Can you imagine how crazy that would be?

Why can't conservatives talk honestly about the problems in their own party? I LOVE the quote- "Republicans believe in accountability, so their indescretions are the height of hypocricy and should be highlighted"
I would love examples of what you mean by this. How do republicans hold themselves accountable? I thought it was a favorite republican tactic to highlight that LIBERALS were hypocrites...not the other way around.

Why do republicans always equate dissent with being unpatriotic? It's hard for me to understand that- are republicans above reproach? They always frame dissent as interchangeable with hate. I am curious as to why they think this way. How do we know then when republicans are wrong?

Q: Did O'Reilly ever apologize to the Democratic Party for labeling Rep. Foley a Democrat on his program?

I seriously don't know if he did or not. So if Turkey Neck did in fact apologize don't hit me with a "gotcha".

indierik:
"I'm new to this site, but not new to reading through other wingnut sites. It's funny... blah, blah, blah..."

I think its funny how left-wingnut sites don't even ALLOW comments, or remove them if they are critical of the lib's ideas.

Student- try Atrios or Media Matters. They have comments unlike the Malkin or Powerline sites.

AFTER BLAMING CLINTON FOR 9/11, REPUBS NOW ADD NORTH KOREA

-- "We'll blame Clinton for Katrina the Next Chance We Get" --

WASHINGTON -- In preparation for the 2008 Presidential race, Republican Sen. John McCain added North Korea to a long list of problems the Bush administration now blames on former President Bill Clinton. Despite his party's control of the House, Senate, and Executive branches for several years, McCain accused Clinton -- the husband of his potential 2008 White House rival -- of failing to act in the 1990s to stop North Korea from developing nuclear weapons. Added McCain, "Not only is Clinton to blame for 9/11, but Iraq and North Korea as well. And apparently, Mark Foley got all his ideas from the Monica Lewinski scandal, so there's that too."

I'll take your word for it indierik- I mostly meant www.thank-you-keith-olbermann.com, where you CAN post, but that pussy Colorado Bob will remove your posts and ban you if he disagrees.

Or MoveOn.org
Or TheDailyKos
Or Olbermann's own site

The part about Hastert's resignation: "Shuster did not reference his statement of last week which, if taken seriously, would mean that in the next two days, Speaker Hastert would be out of his job." Statement. Not prediction. J$ didn't say otherwise. He said Shuster made a "statment" last week.

au contraire, mon ami.
Now I don't recognize your nick so you may not be aware of the ongoing spin by JD. Last week, JD referring to Shuster's reporting said "Olby gave Shuster a chance to do some damage control and back off his prediction".

Now, as you have no doubt noted, I had said, "nor did he predict Hastert would resign by Wednesday." I made no claim that JD said, in this post, about such a prediction. Instead, I used it as a counter-balance, indicating that this time, as well as the last, Shuster made no 'prediction."

However, I could easily make the claim that JD was. He prefaces it with 'predicting' things will get bogged down, followed by the 'statement' last week, which JD termed a 'prediction' and never clarified/rebutted.

The whole idea is to make it appear that Shuster is a pro-Democrat analyst who makes predictions, not a reporter who is reporting what is going on. Typical JD spin.

Please note that JD also had said Joe Scarborough had 'predicted' a Dem landslide in the elections. From what I remember of the interview, Scarborough did predict, that is he gave his opinion. Shuster is not giving an opinion.

Wow, wierd double post. Sorry.

Though I will say that double posting would occur less frequently if this site didn't give errors damn near every time I post.

Tru Dat, radmod... tru dat!

"I challenge you ..."
Fine. Let's go.

"Olbermann claims O'Reilly slammed the paper, "for publishing a negative review of his novel."
Sorry, that's not a lie. Even the link you provided to MediaMatters shows that. O'Reilly repeatedly called the paper and the review 'dishonest' with the implication that what was written was a lie. Hence the graphic "dishonest review".

Yes, the CPD did apologize for not indicating that the reviewer works for Media Matters. However, they did not retract the review, nor say that it was wrong. IIRC, it's called a 'clarification.'

Finally, just a tip :
"O'Reilly clearly says he went much further than Olbermann implies"
Olbermann said, not implied, IIRC, that Billo slammed the CPD for a negative review. Now if Billo went FURTHER than what KO said he would be saying WORSE things than calling CPD "blatantly dishonest" (even though, of course, Billo never, ever engages in name-calling, does he?).

I just don't think you meant to say that Billo said more bad things about them than he did.

Why you have to imbue me with the attributes you so despise is another matter, and of utmost interest to behaviorists and psycopharmacologists everywhere.

Posted by: KfK at October 10, 2006 12:30 PM

That's what I keep asking myself about you. I started this whole thing saying if you comprehended that it was wrong to just look at the amount of money the rich pay in taxes. If I made 60 million dollars last year, I will surely pay more in taxes than many others combined. But the percentage of my income along with taxes on things I purchased I dare say would be less than the average guy. That is what I said in so many words. I also said if someone worked hard and earned their cash, good for them. You assume I hate the rich. What I hate is people being sucked into the idea that they are going to be that rich someday and acting like they are. Looking down on people who don't have it so well, then when they grow old and find out that they weren't one of them, just some a--hole who treated people like shit because it made them feel special. I know what this site is thank you very much. It's a bunch people usin Keith Olbermann as an excuse to spout their very much programed into their head philosophy of liberal bashing, Clinton hating, very distorted version of Christianity. The more I read it, the more commited I become to never, ever, ever vote for someone who thinks like this. Thanks Olbermann watch!!!

radmod,

If what Olbermann said was true, O'Reilly would have simply said, "It is ridiculous that The Cleveland Claims Dealer had a negative review of my new book, CULTURE WARRIOR." No, in reality O'Reilly took issue with the fact that the obvious political bias of the reviewer was withheld from the readers....That was the subject of the scorn, not just the review itself....that is what I meant by O'Reilly went further than Olbermann suggested....so rhetorically your defense is squat.

O'Reilly's opinion that the review was dishonest goes back to the point that the political bias of the reviewer was not put up front in the original review. Again, Olbermann just left it at, "[O'Reilly] slammed the paper for publishing a negative review of his novel." That is a half-truth, or what I would call, a lie.

If O'Reilly was to only slam reviewers because they gave CULTURE WARRRIOR a bad review, I think he would need the entire next three FACTORS to cover them all. He slamed the particular review because the reviewer is a partisan and is a member a a group that is partisan.

When I first read the transcript from COUNTDOWN on msnbc.com, I thought that O'Reilly's ego and thin skin was up front again. But when I went to MEDIAMATTERS and actually watched the pience on FACTOR, I had to agree with Billo that the political agenda of the reviewer and his supporters should be clearly identified so that a casual reader will have a full picture of the review...either negative or positive.

When is Krazy Keith going to do a "Super Special Announcement" to address the charges in the New York Post story? Instead of talking about the Republican scandal, how about talking about your own? I wonder, will he call her a "monkey", or a "sloven political hack", or can he come up with something new? Of course he will blame the whole thing on Mark Foley, Dennis Hastert, Bill O'Rielly, Ann Coulter, Karl Rove, "Mister" Bush, Rumsfeld, and anybody else that pea-sized brain can possible spin up.

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TomPepsi said:
"When is Krazy Keith going to do a "Super Special Announcement" to address the charges in the New York Post story?"

When they start offering downhill skiing in Hell.

TomPepsi said:
"Instead of talking about the Republican scandal, how about talking about your own?"

How about that the Republican scandal has actual FACTS, while that tripe is based on innuendo and gossip (and now she is apparently upset that the Post published it at all)?

Sorry, cee but I don't buy it. O'Reilly DID bring up the disclosure point but kept calling the review and the CPD 'dishonest'. The implication is that since they were dishonest about disclosing the reviewer's credentials then the entire review was dishonest. Yet, O'Reilly didn't even provide a single example of where the review was dishonest. If he were being truthful, he would've not called it a "dishonest review." Instead, he would've called it a "partisan review."

Further he went on to claim that CPD hired the reviewer with the implication that they intentionally hired a left-winger to smear his book. Yet, again, he provided no examples of the review's dishonesty.

Is it dishonest, or even a lie if someone fails to disclose things? Possibly, yes but not necessarily so. KO takes great care in disclosing that so-and-so poll or article comes from an NBC affiliate/associate. Fox, from what I've seen, fails to do that. Did the CPD do that? Perhaps, or perhaps Billo didn't like how the reviewer was described (as from a "non-profit watchdog" group, which I don't know if they are or aren't). Did they do it intentionally. No, there was no dishonesty involved. Still, Billo failed to provide any evidence, whatsoever, that the review was dishonest.

codas,

I will try to reason with you regarding taxation (and as a correlate, social security). The poor pay almost nothing. The middle class does take a hit, thanks to tax and spend socialists, not because of the rich. The rich pay ALOT of money. There is no magic loophole -- they do pay.

Now, if you really want fairness, we should do what new Democracies have done in Eastern Europe -- a FLAT TAX. Everyone pays the same rate, whether middle class or rich. No more obscure tax code, no more crazy taxation schemes from socialists. These Eastern European countries have seen productivity soar. The big losers from a flat tax would be accountants and other leeches who benifit from complex Governmental regulation.

We could also reform social security so that the savings stay in a family. You work your whole life, pay into social security (huge taxe burden), then if you die at 66, the money disappears. Personal savings accounts would end that fiasco, and they would be higher yield. Of course, socialists hate that the Government would "lose money" in the form of less tax revenue, but WHY ARE THEY SPENDING THAT MONEY ANYWAY?

If you want to see what happens when personal savings accounts are permitted, see what has happened in Galveston County, Texas, since they opted out of the system in 1980. Please do read this and then respond:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2005-03-15-benefits-reform-galveston_x.htm

"Brian" asks "But what does that mean!!?" a lot.

The last time was because I referred to the red-meat mongrels on this website as "a pack of fascist goons". Apparently, Brian found this to be confusing because I'm supposed to be a "tolerant liberal", just because I hate stupid-ass fascist goons. I guess I don't know what Brian means.

Oops, I forgot perhaps the most important point.
Can a 'partisan' write a non-partisan review? Certainly.
If I asked you to write a proof that two and two is four, could you do it non-partisanly? Certainly.
Thus, if the review actually were 'dishonest' because of partisanship then O'Reilly would provide proof that it was dishonest. Which, of course, he didn't do.

Quite frankly, I'm a bit surprised at that. In the past he has never had a problem saying "I never said that!" about things that he said.

Sulaweyo,
Listen. The religious right is correct. Jefferson, Madison, Franklin, etc. were a bunch of fictional characters. Jesus Christs founded this country and wrote the Constitution. Every conservative knows Jesus was a violent, blood-thirsty warrior who loved killing people. Jesus only likes the rich and hates the poor. Also, Jesus loves people who make money from religion (Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc.)

kfk,
"We'll do the fighting for you." Really? You've been fighting in Afghanistan between your posts on Olbermann Watch?

According to you, Reagan cutting and running from Beirut, selling weapons to terrorists, paying off terrorists, arming and training terrorists helped the situation?

The socialist left is correct. The '93 trade center bombing, the truck bombing at Khobar Towers, the bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, the USS Cole bombing and 9/11 were a bunch of fictional events. Leftists founded this country and wrote the Constitution. Every conservative knows that responding to terrorism makes us violent, blood-thirsty warriors who love killing people. Leftists only like the poor and hate the rich. Also, leftists hate people who love religion.

Colbert: "According to you, Reagan cutting and running from Beirut, selling weapons to terrorists, paying off terrorists, arming and training terrorists helped the situation?"

Reagan failed in Beirut, and it emboldened the maniacs. As for fighting in Afghanistan, you can thank Jimmy Carter for showing the Russians we were weak and would allow aggression in Afghanistan. Cleaning up the mess with Islamists seemed like a good idea at the time, and we relied heavily on the "Northern Alliance."

Now, are you willing to admit the errors of the Democrat party, including Carter's abandonment of the Shah and facilitation of the Iranian "revolution," as well as the hostage crisis? How about Carter's wavering in front of the Russians that resulted in the invasion of Afghanistan, and the multiple terror attacks ignored by Clinton? Of course not.

Conservatives,
Maybe all you tough guys can explain what major wars you've won. The Democrats won WWI and WWII against conservative criticism. The Democrats started Korea but Ike cut and ran from it. The Dems started Vietnam but Nixon cut and ran. Bush had a chance to take out Saddam but cut and ran. Bush got bored in Afghanistan so cut and ran. Now Iraq and Afghanistan are going downhill. We all know about Reagan's atrocious record dealing with terrorists in the 80's. Lincoln was hated by conservatives who were pro-slavery. When you guys finally win one war for this nation then you can talk.

Of course Colbert -- change the subject instead of answering the tough questions. I'm sure the Democrat party of today can be relied upon to fight a war -- Kerry would have things all cleaned up by now.

You want to answer my last post?

radmod,

I know I won't persuade you, and that's ok...but it is obvoius to me that Olbermann took O'Reilly's complaint about full disclosure in a newspaper and turned it into an opportunity to throw insults (it "sucks") at his favorite foil. The claim that it was only O'Reilly slamming a paper because of a bad review, and that's it, was exactly not the whole story....but that's for the viewer to decide.

Your point with regard to a partisan vs. nonpartisan review is moot because we know where the reviewer gets his bed buttered, so his words are suspect....

I have read both WPIW and CULTURE WARRIOR....they both are 6th grade level reading level books, both are VERY loose and fast with facts and both have an agenda. The only thing O'Reilly has on Olbermann is new material.....WPIW is stuff I heard Olbermann say before and there was not much new. O'Reilly brings up some good stuff about issues I had heard about only superficially before and goes into detail about his side of the stories.

Have you read either books?

WelfareisSlavery,
You only stated federal income taxes paid. That's very misleading but you've obviously never had a job. The only rich people who inherit money are Kennedy's and Rockefeller's, idiot? I guess the Bushes have never inherited anything. Any money left over was burned? The right is supposed to be against the inheritance tax and supposed to call it the "death tax." That way stupid people think they pay it too. I'm not familiar with the Kennedy's or Rockefeller's finances but I assumed they have paid estate taxes. John Kerry's parents weren't rich. His aunt paid for his private education.

Colbert,

What your not familiar with fills the world. Like your knowledge of what the super wealthy do to avoid giving back their earnings/inheritance in death taxs. Like Bill"DEM" Gates and Warren"DEM" Buffet gave a bunch to some endowment to avoid uncle sucker from re-distributing it. Tell you what Colbert lets play name a rich person. You name Republicans and i'll name dems. Wanna play.We'll see who runs out first. We'll call it Which Party Caters to the Wealthy. I'll go first Barbara Streisand(the cunt,whore,bitch,hippocrite) oops(oh yeah i'm not a good christian so i can say that). Your turn.

The Kennedys never paid a cent in inheritance tax. They incorporate and use stock transfers to protect their wealth. When you get a job you'll need to learn more about finance, till then class is in. The Kennedys probably have a LLC holding their real estate so when they rape or drown guests its that much more complicated to sue. Thats why the media refers to it as the Kennedys Hyannis Port compound, rather than so and so's home. The rich protect their wealth allright. When the Bushs do it its because they are against the death tax, when a Rockefeller does it its because hes a hippocrite.

Hey colbert. You think baseball/basketball players take lump sums when they hit the big money? Nope. To avoid taxs they take it over time. Otherwise it would be like the lottery inasmuch as the government would take 40% and leave them 60%. Only people who earn it weekly/monthly have trouble finding shelters. So those still accumulating wealth get punished the most. High taxs are just Kerry and Kennedys way of saying you'll never be me.

KfK

You got me on the flat tax buddy. I am all for it!

Something we can agree on? Flat tax would be fair. Consumption tax even better.

Welfare is Slavery,
It's good to see you parroting my lines like a typical stupid conservative. I'm glad I taught you some new terms.

"I'm not familiar with the Kennedy's or Rockefeller's finances but I assumed they have paid estate taxes." I didn't say the wealthy don't do things to avoid paying estate taxes. I said I assumed the Kennedy's and Rockefeller's had paid estate taxes at some point.

Gates and Buffett are giving their money aaway to charity. They won't pay taxes on the money because they won't be using it. Their heirs won't pay taxes on it because they won't inherit that money.
If you're going to pretend to know anything about finances, learn to spell the word "taxes."

Professional athletes are paid salaries like other salaried workers are. Of course they don't take a lump sum. Maybe you should stop talking if you want to pretend to have a job. The more the talk, the more obvious it is you have no idea what you're talking about.

Now go find other taxes besides income taxes and estate taxes (not taxs) which workers pay.

kfk,
How was Carter supposed to stop Russia's agression? Use military force? Reagan used, trained, armed, funded the mujahadeen, foreign terrorists and the future al Qaeda, not only the "Northern Alliance."

Again, how was Carter going to stop the Iranian Revolution? I thought conservatives were against being the world's police? Carter should have militarily defended Afghanistan and the Shah?

The numerous actions Clinton took against terrorism have already been listed several times by various posters. Read the 9/11 Commission Report or Richard Clarke's book or official government sites. What did Bush do? All the attacks you mentioned were known by Bush. Why didn't he attack al Qaeda before 9/11?

sales tax, fuel tax, personal property tax, fica tax, social security tax, tobacco tax, alcohol tax, special cell phone tax, utility tax. you cant tax the rich enough to damage them but you can destroy the middle class with them.

colbert, so you admit clinton and carters policies were miserable failures. thats a step in the right direction. do nothing while the baddies get stronger was a poor idea. gotta love bush for taking it too the baddies. gwb in '08.

Colbert,

Carter abandoned the Shah. In addition, he made it very clear to the Russians that he did not believe in mutually assured destruction or military might. The Russians knew they would not be confronted and they took advantage. Likewise the Islamists knew the US was a paper tiger in Iran and they took advantage. They took our embassy workers hostage for 444 days while Carter did NOTHING. Imagine that today. Bush would fry the MF'ers and they all know it now. read this:

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/5/12/164726.shtml

"Remember Carter's human rights program, where he demanded the Shah of Iran step down and turn over power to the Ayatollah Khomeini? No matter that Khomeini was a madman. Carter had the U.S. Pentagon tell the Shah's top military commanders – about 150 of them – to acquiesce to the Ayatollah and not fight him. The Shah's military listened to Carter. All of them were murdered in one of the Ayatollah's first acts. "

Read and learn Codas.

slaverylover,
I admit you need to learn to read. I also admit Carter wasn't a good President. Clinton was a great President who tried to go after al Qaeda. By the "we haven't been attacked on our homeland since 9/11" logic, Clinton kept us very safe from early 1993 on.

I missed your list of wealthy Democrats. What's your point? I've stated numerous times, Census Bureau data proves blue-staters are wealthier than red-staters. The difference is the attitude. Democrats think: "I'm already rich, I don't need my huge tax cut. Spend the money on our military men and people who need it." Republicans think: "Screw the military men and needy. If they die because they can't afford to have proper armor, oh well. At least I have my tax cut."

kfk,
I know you're brainwashed. I know you can't think for yourself. You don't have to prove it by posting articles by newsmax.

I think that you are the bravest man in America. You are saying the things that need to be said and others are afraid to say.
During Katrina I lost my faith in the country I loved. I always thought that in the end, my country would protect me. As I watched those poor people suffering, I watched an incompetent administration fumble. My heart was broken. When you first spoke out so intelligently about this fiasco, I knew that atleast one person understood how I felt. You have expressed what I feel in my heart.
Your special commentaries are putting the awful truth out there for all to see. Maybe others will have the courage to join in and say to the world- THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. It is time to reclaim our country. Let the absolute power of one party, no matter what party, end. Vote them out on election day.
Keep up the fight. You are my hero.

I think that you are the bravest man in America. You are saying the things that need to be said and others are afraid to say.
During Katrina I lost my faith in the country I loved. I always thought that in the end, my country would protect me. As I watched those poor people suffering, I watched an incompetent administration fumble. My heart was broken. When you first spoke out so intelligently about this fiasco, I knew that atleast one person understood how I felt. You have expressed what I feel in my heart.
Your special commentaries are putting the awful truth out there for all to see. Maybe others will have the courage to join in and say to the world- THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES. It is time to reclaim our country. Let the absolute power of one party, no matter what party, end. Vote them out on election day.
Keep up the fight. You are my hero.