Olby, why didn't YOU take on the NYP when they ran the stories about you being godawful in bed? What were you afraid of - that a whole lot more bad stuff might come out if you attempted to defend your own reputation?

You want Rs on Keith Olbermann's program? You initiate the fairness doctrine--- posthaste!

And why hasn't he sued them yet if everything they've written about him was a pack of lies? He doth protest too much if you ask me. A sure indication of a liar if ever there was one.

And now, another Special Comment is planned. Guess he got a look at Thursday night's ratings. #4 overall and that was even counting the "live and same day" ratings his buddy at TVN loves to quote so much.

"You want Rs on Keith Olbermann's program? You initiate the fairness doctrine--- posthaste!"

Fairness doctrine can only apply to public broadcasting - radio and television.

Won't apply to cable.

Then why do so many conservatives make such a big deal about the fairness doctrine? Public access is less than 1/5th the whole of television... what a waste of time complaining.

"Randolf should have bunted"! Now we can add Monday morning quarterback to the Olbertard's lenghty resume.

And don't forget serving as Sugar Daddy to a 22-year old, his favorite role these days.

And don't forget all the advice he likes to dispense to fellow broadcasters. You'd think he was a regular expert on the subject instead of the perpetual cellar dweller he is. If only they made a Viagra style pill that would swell his ratings.

If the purpose of the viagra is to swell something, I think it might have all gone to his head.

"Then why do so many conservatives make such a big deal about the fairness doctrine?"

Why do so many liberals want it re-enacted?

Two words: talk radio.

Won't Work: Liberal programs will be fairness doctrine monitored, as well.

when olbermann gets soap flakes in the mail it's a "terrorist threat" but anything else is just republican fearmongering. I wonder if olberyloon actually watches his show after he stumbles through it to see how utterly hypocritical and stupid it sounds.
I also wonder how much he paid the new deomcratic chimp for his interview. Was it as much as he paid klinton for his interview/love fest/ex president DNA gathering foray. Maybe we can all chip in and have him go drinking with Ted Kennedy up on Martha's Vinyard.
and what's with the stupid McDonlads segment? must be trying to build up suspense for another "special comment". Special as in special ed is more like it. I can just see the olbyloons racing to get on the short bus already.
So what's olberloon gonna do if the democrats do not gain power after all his free advertisements and ranting. Can he actually have any credibility or even go on TV again knowing all his bloviating, whining and screeching failed to put his party of leftists in power?
Tonight olbermann has been voted biggest a--hole in the woooooorld.

Well if The fairness doctrine was brought back, and if it was made to include cable would be good for one thing

Watching Robert Cox co-host Countdown!

"Liberal programs will be fairness doctrine monitored, as well."

Yes, but how many liberal radio programs are there compared to the conservative shows?

Talk radio is dominated by conservatives. So, applying a "fairness doctrine" would greatly diminish that dominance.

Err America is bankrupt (in so many ways). MSLSD is being sent to the network chop shop. Life is good.

Remember, in the little world according to Mr. Olbermann, when Democrats say that Bush has not made us safer, that the danger from terrorism is greater now than before 9/11, that our sea and airports are not safe, that our border is not protected, that we have no allies and that everyone in the world hates us, that is NOT playing on people's fears.

But the Republicans saying that Democrats policies will not make us safer, now that IS playing the fear card.

Amazing that Mr. Olbermann can do this show with a straight face.

Give him credit - no an Emmy - for best facial control while saying absolute nonsense.

Where did he get that suit, from the thrift shop or from his grandfather's attic, he looks like 70 years old tonight. Can you all get a picutre that he is dating his 22-years-old "daughter", so as his buddy, Dan Patrick, said. Oops, I think he is dating his grandaugher.

You are bashing the President and the Administration every night, I guess your purpose is to have the Republican party out, simply because you are a good American, so why did you ask such a question to Senator Obama that why would he like to get the President job. Mr. Olbermann, you claimed all the problems we have in this country every night, don't you want someone to fix them. Now I know, you are the one Cut and Run.

@Johnny

Tell me why you constantly dump on his ratings and book sales? Does ratings make his commentaries less valid?

I could argue that cable is only a small segment of the market. A lot of people don't get cable. Hey 2 Million a night O'reilly viewers is what... about 2% of the total voter base?? What if I told you Fox news site was waaayyy behind CNN site on internet hits, or that Al Franken has more best sellers than O'Reilly.

I could also tell you that G Bush's approval ratings is 37%, but does that mean Bush is not a good President? I personally don't think he is but that should not be the criteria for judging his performance.

Allan, have you read Johnny $'s nightly round-up of the outrageous lies, distortions and the like that Olby tries to pass off as fact every single night? We're suggesting that his book sales and ratings might actually go UP if he would only tell the truth and present his newscasts in a straight-forward manner instead of getting his talking points from the likes of Daily Kos and the radical left blogs he loves to quote from these days.

He has worn some strange clothing combinations this week. Maybe Katy forgot to pick up the dry cleaning on the way to Prada.

Won't Work: Go by quality, not quantity.

Al Franken vs. Rush Limbaugh...

Randi Rhodes vs. Laura Ingraham...

Thom Hartmann vs. Sean Hannity...

Mark Malloy vs. Michael Savage...

Ed Schultz vs. Glenn Beck...

Mark Levin vs. Mark Levin...

you get the picture...

"Won't Work: Go by quality, not quantity."

Well, fortunately (or unfortunately depending on your view) privately run radio goes by ratings. Folks listening.

And folks just don't listen to lefty radio hosts (for the most part).

And it's also why liberals want to re-enact the "Fairness Doctrine". If liberals were successful in talk radio, they wouldn't be trying to get it legislated.

Brandon

I agree he has a liberal bias just as many commentators on fox have a conservative bias. I look at it in a sense as being an equalizer, a sort of quid pro quo. Tit for tat.

But imagine him coming on as completely unbiased commentator...like Lehrer at PBS, he might lose all his viewership for not being hard hitting. Remember this is entertainment as well and people with strong political views like to watch these types of shows.

But if a Democrat president were ever to get elected and mess up like Bush, and if he did'nt let him have it...he would lose my viewership.

Won't Work: You are actually helping me to make my point:

The fairness doctrine's worth is because one side wants the other side not to be in so much power...

if the Liberals want the fairness doctrine, and the Conservatives do not want the fairness doctrine...

... and the Conservatives are in power... ...then this must mean that the fairness doctrine is viable, usually. Besides... all that happens with fairness doctrine in action is a minute-long piece at the end of the presentation where the opposited side gets to debunk the person making up lies... is that so bad???

Someone asked for a photo of Katy?
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ktbunch/81247203/

Is she supposed to be attractive?

> Tell me why you constantly dump on his ratings and book sales? Does ratings make his commentaries less valid?

As I have explained many times, Olbermoronn himself trumpeted his book sales and his alleged ratings on the air. So we are following his lead. If you think they are irrelevant, then you'll have to take that up with Olby.

That's the best he can do?

And re the "quality over quantity" argument. If Olby had the number one best seller what would your argument be then exactly?

Isn't that sad?

All the love that money can buy.

he dumped a hot latina for THAT?

I'm so sure he's gay.

Brandon: Actually... I do not think that Olbermann's book was that impressive...

I'm sure the Hot Latina actually expected a functioning partner. The WASP queen is no doubt easily orgasmic over all the Prada and Marc Jacobs he's gifting her with.

(continued)

His book was more of a collection of nearly a year of Worst Person in the Worlds... I think they just hit "print" in the transcript room.

OlbermanWatchUs: Photocopied scripts of old WPITW are indeed, not impressive in the least.

It's amazing what money can buy these days.

I asked my tag team partner today on the radio if he was in love with this child who is young enough to be his daughter, the one with the Dad younger than he is. And despite my asking him twice, he refused to answer. I hate to say her middle name might be BEARD but I'm beginning to have my doubts seeing how he's never talked about his personal life on the air before now, before certain stories made their way to the tabloid papers in NYC.

Well... I still love the book...

page 122 "The Lice Man Commeth"
December 5 2005

"Bronze winner: Bill O' Reilly. Apparently you have him to thank for the recent minor drop in gas prices.He told an interviewer "I have guys inside the five major oil companies... they got scared because of my reporting and of some others. They said, "uh ho." Thanks, Bill."

I really laughed at that one!!!

Approximately 30 minutes into their respective shows the hosts put forth the following content ready for cerebral digestion and fuel for lively debate among co-workers, friends, family and associates.

Show Time: Friday October 20 00:29:14 Hours into program.

* O Rielly - Interview with President Bush

* Olbermann - Kids stacking cups.

186k: Don't like cupcakes???

Well at least he didn't give OBAMA a check like he did Bubba but he sure came close to giving him a
"Lewinsky".

Bill got a "donation" and a Lewinsky from Olby, didn't he?

You know, I'm waiting to see how long before an Olbyloon posts a unsourced ranting, raving "article" on some totally off-topic subject in this thread.

I'm posting on the internets!

This is somewhat longish but worth sticking with. It's from ABC's "The Note":

"The Old Media giddy with excitement over the prospect of the Bush-Cheney-Rove-Mehlman machine losing, filled with guilt over complicity in an Iraq war it wants ended, flush with anticipation over two years of anti-Bush leaks from a gavel-wielding Henry Waxman, and substantially more interested in revelations about congressional pages than in trying to tell voters the truth about whether or not the economy is strong and getting stronger can barely contain itself on its secret morning conference calls with Howard Dean and George Soros, during which it was agreed just this morning that, yes, we can keep the meta-narrative ("The Democrats are going to beat Bush and run Congress!!") going for another 19 days, without interruption."

"Secret morning conference calls with Howard Dean and George Soros"???

So, ABC is stating that parts of the press - the Old Media - is working with Dean and Soros to promote the "Republicans are doomed" narrative through their reporting.

If KO sees this, he'll do another "special commentary" I'm sure.

Blaming Bush for it.

woooooooow freaky man

While we speak "truth to power," I am curious. Was the CD staff WPITW for showing a picture of Max Cleland instead of Neil Bortz (sp)? How about was NBC/MSNBC's Chip Reed WPITW for 3 times referring to the "Tom Foley sex scandal"?
I bet not, as that would fall outside the Dan Abrams, Keith Olbermann attack everything that is not NBC MO.

And folks, if you're keeping score at home, it took exactly 15 MINUTES from the end of Olbermann's show for an OlbermannWatch poster to call Barack Obama a "Chimp"

Congratulations on this little community you're running boys. Top notch, really - class all the way.

Allan wrote: "" Does ratings make his commentaries less valid?"

Allan, the short answer is, yes. Wanna know why? Because KO and MSNBC repeatedly lie about KO's ratings. 69% increase? Well, 33ish, 69, its all the same because KO talks truth to power.

Check the OW archives for the MSNBC lies about KO's ratings, then ask your question again.

Scott

OK Show me the links

a)Where KO makes the claim

b)The actual cable ratings

BTW Take your time on it, don't feel you have to rush. I'll check back tomorrow.

Gnite

The only reason that the ratings are an issue is because Karzy Keith makes them one. He likes to trumpet his every time they go up ever so slightly. But for some reason he forgets to mention when they sink again. Just like he forgets to mention that the stock market is going through the roof, gas prices are going down, the budget deficits are inking.

The only reason that the ratings are an issue is because Krazy Keith makes them one. He likes to trumpet his ratings every time they go up ever so slightly. But for some reason he forgets to mention when they sink again. Just like he forgets to mention that the stock market is going through the roof, gas prices are going down, the budget deficits are inking.

The only reason that the ratings are an issue is because Krazy Keith makes them one. He likes to trumpet his ratings every time they go up ever so slightly. But for some reason he forgets to mention when they sink again. Just like he forgets to mention that the stock market is going through the roof, gas prices are going down, the budget deficits are inking.

Yes, I messed up and posted the same message three times. But its really not my fault. It was the result of a devoius plan developed by Karl Rove, approved by President (Mr) Bush, and implemented by Donald Rumsfeld. Oh, and I was IM'd by Mark Foley too.

"But the Republicans saying that Democrats policies will not make us safer, now that IS playing the fear card."
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SMG I know we've agreed to disagree on some topics, but I must take issue with that.

So Bush's critics say...in response to Bush's claims that we are safer...no way, it's not true.

That is fearmongering.

But these examples:

A) Cheney said shortly after 9-11 "it's only a matter of time before a more serious attack occurs (or words to that effect)

B) The republican drumbeat: We fight them there or we fight them here. (I'm sure you heard that one before)

C) "They hate our freedoms" (Bush)

That's not fearmongering.

Well...I'll be a sonofagun.

Cheers

The fear mongering practices does not work on the those who don't vote Republican, not since Iraq became a quagmire.

Fear mongering is aimed at getting out the base. Simply put, those who are most hysterical about their xenophobia are those who suck up this garbage that Rove orchestrates.

The republican base is - is it not - the evangelical Christians? Known as the people of the bible belt (and those anywhere that have adopted the evangelical culture). Who are these people? Are they historically xenophobic? Uhhh... you're dam right! If you are too young to remember the 60's and the end of segregation then you may not fully appreciate the venom these people demonstrated towards outsiders of any kind. The bible belt is the epitome of a xenophobic culture and therefore the portion of our society that is quickest to suck up the fear mongering garbage put by Rove and his evil regime. This is why the ironic juxta position of calling yourself Of-Christ or Christian always goes hand in hand with being pro war any time our government claims we need to do it. Killing and torture went on in the south and therefore in the southern culture for more than 400 years. You think it all vanished into thin air in one generation? No way.

Johnny Dollar said:

"Monkeymann attacked a Senator (R) for being a liar"

Because DeWine IS lying. Not only did Rep. Brown provide PROOF that he had paid the tax bill in question (in 1994), Jon Allen (the spokesman for the Ohio Department of Jobs and Family Services) stated that DeWine's ad was patently false.

When you get caught in a lie and proceed to tell it even though everyone KNOWS it's a lie, you deserve to get WPITW.

The democratic staffer was fired for payback. La Hood was stupid enough to admit it. Turley ain't going to get much for fees off of this open and shut case.

All I can think about at this point is Kevin Tillman's letter and how these clowns are letting him and his brothers memory down, yet again.

Fox News

LAHOOD: Yeah, I’ll tell you why I did it, Jane. The reason why I did it is because Jane Harman released the Duke Cunningham — who sat on our Intelligence committee — report, in violation of the trust that she gave to Chairman Hoekstra, in saying that it would be released in a bipartisan way. She released it arbitrarily, and I’m furious about that. She betrayed the trust of the committee because that report was to be released in a bipartisan way. She released it to the media just to embarrass, 21 days before the election, Republicans on the committee. That’s the reason that I released my letter today.

ANCHOR: So it’s payback?

LAHOOD: Look it, this is–we’re in the political season, and if the ranking member on our committee wants to play politics, there’re some of us on the other side that can equally play politics, and I’m not afraid to do it.

"Tell me why you constantly dump on his ratings and book sales? Does ratings make his commentaries less valid?"

Yes. Olby has claimed his book was #18 on the NYT Best Sellers List. Except the list only goes to 15. Which means there is no 18. Which means he either lied, or is grossly uninformed, both bad signs in a "journalist."

Olby and MSNBC claims a 69% increase in ratings. The real number was something in the 30's. While a roughly 1/3 increase in viewers is fairly impressive, claiming more that double that is either, again, a lie or just gross miscalculation. Again, are these traits you want from a news organization?

To me, KO's ratings and book sales figures go to further check and balance "Look at me, look at me" Olbermann's accuracy, truthfullness, and credibility. And until he tells the truth, without spin ("I beat Billo's book at Walmart last week" or "To tell you how the books did, Billo's book finished behind the new Lemony Snicket book [never mind that KO's book was like 100 places behind Billo's book]}, his credibility as a journalist, will always be suspect.

When you get caught in a lie and proceed to tell it even though everyone KNOWS it's a lie, you deserve to get WPITW.
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If thats true then KO should have given himself a few in the last 3 years.

I think Katy is buying his new clothes at the discount rack at TJ Maxx. Maybe she's trying to make him especially hideous looking on purpose so no one elbows in on her sugar daddy and her Prada and Marc Jacobs days come to an end.

Allan, go look up the USA Today article that ran on Olby recently. I do not have the link but if you search this site, I'm sure you'll find it, if that's not too difficult for you that is.

And here's a thread on the ratings analysis for you:
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/10/a_few_words_on_2.html#more.

By the way, Olbermann has made similar claims re his ratings in pieces done on him by the Associated Press and the NY Times.

here, I know you Libs are research-challenged.

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/10/msm_ko_bandwago_15.html#more

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/10/olbywatch_in_ac.html

Every link you're looking for is within these two articles, plus detailed explanations of the "cooked" ratings claims being made by Olby and MSNBC, which USA Today was forced to issue a retraction/correction about.

Liberals may be research challenged but I am clearly caffeine challenged and should know never to post before I've had my first cup of coffee this morning. I meant to address Allan in that last post and instead, posted his name where I should have mine. In the immortal words of Homer Simpson, "D'oh!". Sorry about that Allan and hope those links help you.

the main reason that the olbermann's consistently low ratings are always mentioned is mainly to show how utterly unimportant he is. Liberals always love to try and portray their nutty political positions as "mainstream" . Yet entities like Air America cannot survive in the marketplace of ideas. If olbermann's low ratings are any indication of liberals support in the midterm elections then maybe the libs might have another big surprise in November.

Not sure why "Citizen Keith" should have to respond to a bimbo's account in the NY Post?

There's enough material out there to attack his jaded view of America and I see know reason why we need to get into the gutter.

Olby is very entertaining, even though I disagree with 98% of what he believes in.

Ratings - While "Citizen Keith's" ratings may be low as compared to O'Reilly, Madison avenue is buying the time because there is a unique group of people out there that watch him and consume products. I find the ratings comparisons irrelevant. Olby is no Air-america.

You also have to look at ratings over a long period of time. For example, how are Olby's ratings now over this time last year? I'm sure they are Up.

That's how people in the industry look at ratings. He's up over last year. They are selling Commericals for more money over last year with Citizen Keith.

MSNBC is quite please with Olby.

Liberals always love to try and portray their nutty political positions as "mainstream" .
Posted by: Anonymous at October 21, 2006 09:06 AM

It always makes me laugh when "you guys" think you think liberal political positions are out of the mainstream. Seen the latest polls on the president, the war, the republican controlled government? Yes, the votes in this country have leaned republican the last decade but that will change soon. And it's not like it has been a landslide. Gore got more popular votes than Bush if you remember. The cultural war has always been won by the progresive side of the debate. Sorry, but the mainstream is gonna kick you in the ass real soon.

"The cultural war has always been won by the progressive side of the debate."

You think that most people believe that more taxes, bigger government, affirmative action, partial-birth abortion, open borders, collectivism, rejection of tradition and nationalism are good things?

Polls are always misleading. It all depends on how the questions are asked.

"Polls are always misleading. It all depends on how the questions are asked."

Posted by: Crash at October 21, 2006 10:06 AM

MANY questions in MANY polls have been asked about Bush's performance and he still is in the 30-40% range. Are all of these polls misleading?

"Delivery," ultimately dictates what people support in the present. IF (and it is still if), more "progressive," ideology with regards to foreign policy, healthcare, economic regulation, retirement security and social policy, delivers what is promised, then people will continue to support it. It is not automatic any particular ideology will succeed or fail.

"Progressive," for me means making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods. Now if that is what is codas is talking about, then you better be prepared for negative consequence and be careful what you promise. History is frought with human derived ideas that were "progressive," and ended up either with unforseen consequences or caused a reaction that was also destructive.

The great example is Marxism....an extremely progressive idea. Another is Nihilism.....an extremely progressive idea. They both sounded good theoretically, but the apllication in an evil world killed millions.

The

Olbermann lied through his teeth again. He called Rockerfeller Republicans, Small Governmet Libertariansie, Rockerfeller Republicans are Leftwing Socialist Republicans. Libertarians belive in Economic and Personal freedom and aren't Moderate since we have strong convictions.
Once again in Olbermann's worl Moderates=Leftists.

The reason why ratings matter -- whether it's MSNBC, the parent NBC network or the boxoffice/DVD sale numbers for Universal Pictures -- is the General Electric Corp in its 110-plus years has never been one to support a losing proposition for very long. And if you just go down a few entries on the website, you'll see GE has decided to cut 700 jobs and $750 million from its media divisions, which includes moving whatever they salvage from MSNBC out of Secaucus to save money.

Will Keith survive on what's left of MSNBC or on CNBC? We'll see. But if "Countdown" is now going to be side-by-side with Brian Williams and the main NBC News division, it will be interesting to see if they allow Olbermann to continue with the same type of antics, or if they opt to shift the show over to the "SNL" or "Late Night with Conan O'Brien" sets, due to its lack of seriousness (though come to think of it, having Triumph the Insult Comic Dog critique Keith's efforts at the end of every "Countdown" probably would give a siginficant boost to at least the final five minutes of the show's ratings).

Libertarians belive in Economic and Personal freedom and aren't Moderate since we have strong convictions.
Once again in Olbermann's worl Moderates=Leftists.

Posted by: Red Wolf at October 21, 2006 11:45 AM

I conside myself more a moderate than anything and I have a strong conviction that this country should never, ever ever ever put their trust in a group of bible thumping warriors who discredit the bible and hide the reality of war from the eyes of a brainwashed public.I have strong convictions that economic opportunity for the lower middle class is essential to keeping this country together. I have strong convictions that immigration helps this country grow,if and only if it is legally done. I have strong convictions that if you have to search, get a warrant.
If you don't want abortion, don't participate in one. If you don't want gay marriage, don't get gay married. Don't legislate the bible. Pledge allegiance to the truth and don't try to impress God with oaths that mock his very presence. What do YOU mean by economic and personal freedoms? Do you think the current republicans are for that?

Allan:
"That's not fearmongering.

Well...I'll be a sonofagun."

You missed my highly developed and brilliant point (ahem).

I agree (largely) with you that the Bush W.H. and Republicans have been fearmongering by claiming that Democrats will risk our safety or enact policies that will endanger us.

But the Democrats have engaged in it too. This is not a "tu quoque" defense of the White House (or Democrats either for that matter).

The Democrats say that Bush has not made us safer and that if we don't change parties the danger will increase. Bush, they claim, has alienated our allies and angered the Islamic world by going into Iraq, using excessive force, et cetera, et cetera.

So, as in any election, both parties are claiming that they will do a better job and that the other party will do a lousier job.

We can debate forever, I suppose, which side is more unfairly making the claim; but both parties are doing it.

But our friend Mr. Olbermann only complains when one side does it.

SMG

Codas,
I belive people should learn to fend for themselves economically since dependence on the government leads to people becoming serfs.
I don't belive in governmnet intervention in personal lives. I hate abortion but it should be legal. I belive Marijuana should be legal. People should be allowed to buy guns easily.
As for Religious people. They don't bother me. I perfer Religious Christians over Muslims ulike the Left.

You're not a Moderate. You're a Moderate Leftist.
There is no Center. Your either on the Right or the Left.

Codas,
The only strong conviction the Dems have is to appease France, UN, China and the Islamic countries.

"Not sure why "Citizen Keith" should have to respond to a bimbo's account in the NY Post?"

So Keith was her partner. Was does that make him--a HIMbo? An OlbyBO?

It never ceases to amaze me how women are portrayed as sluts, whores, etc but the men they are having sex with remain vestal virgins.

And I note that Olbermann didn't dare go near the story of how the Karma story wasn't true, just used another baffling bullshit to go off again on the Post re his soap flakes scare as somehow disturbing a federal investigation. Too bad the die-hard fans here thinks it's some sort of veiled message to them and indicates Karma's story isn't true. Never mind Lloyd Grove has confirmed her story and has let the world know he has more incriminating email exchanges between Karma and KO. If he thinks the Post is lying why hasn't he sued them exactly? He's all for suing apparently, so why hasn't he sued? Methinks he doth protest too much in this case. But he knows that his average fan's critical thinking skills aren't that great and no doubt hopes that they'll believe it's all a big lie. Too bad for them it's not. If I were Karma, I'd release the emails just to screw them over.

Codas,
"Sorry, but the mainstream is gonna kick you in the ass real soon."
The left isn't mainstream. there's no mainstream.

"The cultural war has always been won by the progresive side of the debate."
Gay marriage has been defeated.

Codas,
"Sorry, but the mainstream is gonna kick you in the ass real soon."
The left isn't mainstream. there's no mainstream.

"The cultural war has always been won by the progresive side of the debate."
Gay marriage has been defeated.

I always find it amusing to hear the leftists try and portray their ideology as "mainstream". It is because of liberal bias that people like Rush have such unprecented popularity.
The left wingers are so far out of touch and used to the liberal bias from CNN and MSNBC and so unused to opposing viewpoints that they have the audacity to claim that FOX news is conservative.
If the marketplace is any indication of being mainstream then Olbermann being last in the ratings and Air America's imminent demise just shows that the ultra liberlal anti- American viewpoint is NOT mainstream.

the ultra liberlal anti- American viewpoint is NOT mainstream.

Posted by: Anonymous at October 21, 2006 01:36 PM

You just don't get it. To be rebelious is an American trait. To be anti government used to be a republican trait. Then they got power. The mainstream loved fat Elvis, Michael Jackson,Disco,The Flinstones, on and on. The population of common folks who have to fight to keep the bills paid and don't want to get killed by a terrorist are staring to understand that Republicans talk a good game but they make a big mess. We are not safer. We are extremly stretched militarily. We are in debt. There is corruption in politics. There always was. Fox news is not conservitive, they are a spokesperson for the whitehouse. They always put them ahead of every issue. They do debate, and then they humiliate.

SMG

"But our friend Mr. Olbermann only complains when one side does it."
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I know he has a liberal bias. But don't you think we need some balance here? Look at fox news there are more commentators there with a pro republican "conservative" bias than anywhere else.

I tend to view KO's bias as "anti-government bias". I'm a libertarian at heart, not a democrat. I much prefer guys like Pat Buchanan and William Buckley because they are more independant of mainstream republicans. And I never liked Hillary Clinton and I thought her husband Bill should have resigned for lying at the deposition.

I'll tell you and everyone on this board, if a democrat president conducts foreign policy like Bush has and KO does'nt go after him, he's off my list.

But at least give KO some credit when his arguments ring true that's all I'm asking...

Oh, so you mean that Olby had a "helluva" point when he tried to suggest that because Bush was campaigning for a candidate who had cheated on his wife that he was somehow condoning adultery but didn't bother to point out that Bill clinton, a self-admitted adultuerer is also campaigning for candidates, which ergo, must mean that the candidates he's campaigning for also condone adultuery. Fair and balanced? Not Ko. Sorry. And I'm a little weary of hearing the "But Fox. . . ". I don't watch Fox for your information. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it along with whatever drugs you're on that make you people think he's a modern-day Edward R. Murrow.

Karma's blog is back live again.

Annonymous said, "when olbermann gets soap flakes in the mail it's a "terrorist threat" but anything else is just republican fearmongering."

- If you'll remember, it was the NY Post (print version of FOX News) that outed that story. Keith tried to keep quiet, as per the request of investigators. So, he wasn't trying to 'fearmonger' at anyone.

Racist annonymous also said, "I also wonder how much he paid the new deomcratic chimp for his interview. "

- But, there's no such thing as a racist republican, right?

So why doesn't he have the guts to sue the NY Post if what he says is true and they were wrong? Don't believe everything you hear Olbermann say. As well-documented here, he plays fast and lose with the truth on a daily basis.

Codas,
I highly doubt the mainstream wants to be subjegated to Islamic rule.

Codas,
I highly doubt the mainstream wants to be subjegated to Islamic rule.

Brandon said, "So why doesn't he have the guts to sue the NY Post if what he says is true and they were wrong? "

- There's nothing to sue over. The NY Post was under no obligation not to publish the story. It was just a request that was made by the investigators, which KO decided to comply with, and the Post did not. You were accusing KO of saying his flakes were not fearmongering, but repubs were. I simply pointed out he wasn't pushing his mailing as a terror threat. That was, in fact, the Print FOX.

Brandon also said, " As well-documented here"

- Yeah, because this is a reputable news source.

Red Wolf said:

"I highly doubt the mainstream wants to be subjegated to Islamic rule."

*blink*

Dude, what the HELL are you on about now?

So why hasn't he sued the Post James?

But hearing Olbermann's rant last night you would assume that it was all lies. And if they were lying, Olbermann, backed up by the FBI's testimony that the Post had in fact, interfered with a federal case would give him a perfect case to sue them for right? Why doesn't Olbermann want to exact his legal revenge on Murdoch's minions? Could it be that they were in fact 100% correct and that's what pisses him off the most? And in case you haven't heard, Bob has offered to shut down this blog if you can find one claim made about Olbermann by him, to be false. So far, no one has taken him up on the offer. Now what were you whining about "reputable" again?

Sorry the person who isn't reputable here is Olbermann who has been proven over and over to be a liar and twister of words to suit his own personal agenda.

James, your "argument" makes no sense. Olbermann alleges that the Post screwed up a federal investigation. Surely if that is indeed the case, then the FBI and Homeland Security would be glad to back up his claims of the Post's culpability in all of this right? Wouldn't that make the perfect case to sue the Post for? An easy win, a victory over Murdoch's minions. So why is he just whining about it and not actually doing something about it, lying filing a suit.

And re this site and its reputation, find an error made about Olbermann by Mr. Cox. He has offered to shut this blog down if you can. So far, no one has taken him up on the offer. Now why might that be actually?

Sorry but the person playing hard and fast with the facts here is your precious Olbermann, as usual.

Okay, there are technical problems with the site again. Sorry about posting two very similar wordered posts but I didn't see the first one I made and then when I posted the second, the first showed up. Anyway, the points I made are still perfectly valid and I have yet to see an Olbyloon adequately explain why Olby hasn't sued the Post if they're so disreputable and have been printing "lies" about him. I argue that the problem is that they've been printing the truth about him and that's what bugs the hell out of him and his lunatic fans the most. Again, if the Post is lying about anything they've printed about him, why hasn't he sued them?

Olbermann is a propaganda artists for the Iranian/Al-Qaeda cause. He should be locked up and put in a helicopter. Then flown over the NY Times HQ. and hanged from the helicopter like the snitch in Scarface.

Bush is so cute!!

I love George W. Bush!!!

GOD BLESS YOU GEORGE!!

Bush is so cute!!

I love George W. Bush!!!

GOD BLESS YOU GEORGE!!

Bush is so cute!!

I love George W. Bush!!!

GOD BLESS YOU GEORGE!!

"Southern Hillbilly Chick wrote: Bush is so cute!! I love George W. Bush!!! GOD BLESS YOU GEORGE!!.."

Evidently Southern Hillbilly Chick posts in invisible ink...

And the left's labeling of the South and Southerners as "Hillbillies" is what keeps losing them elections in the south.

I love your penis shaped nose Bubba!!!

I have penis envy.

ALL HAIL BUBBA'S PENIS NOSE!!!!

Bush now says he never endoresed "stay the course". How in the world anyone supports this guy is beyond me.

If Olbermann only has guests on his show that predictably parrot his idiotic lunatic lefty Konspiracy theories, what does this say about the so-called non-partisan journalists that do his show? You know those newsweek guys with no partisan leanings. Soon you will be able disparage their work by saying "You can't trust anything he says. He does Olbermann's show." Yeah Alter, I am talking about you. Everyone on the planet knows your bald, that comb-overski is not fooling anyone. How can anyone trust someone who doesn't even know he is bald?

James you liberals always call bus a "chimp" or chimpy" but of coures there is a double standard with liberals- anything you say say is ok but anything comnsrvatives say is hate speech right?
I 'll just bet you had little or no outrage over the racist comments made by the left wingnut luminaries about Colin Powell and Condi Rice too right? Pleas continue to flaunt your hypocrisy.
you go on itn typical liberal fashion:
"Brandon also said, " As well-documented here"

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"Yeah, because this is a reputable news source"
well actually it is more reputable than the blatantly bias and hysterical olbermann. At least here on olbermannwatch.com liberals are allowed to extend opinions no matter how ridiculous they are unlike olbermann who has ZERO dissenting opinions on his show. But olbermann is typicalof the liberal fascism that tolerates no dissent.

Anon said, "you liberals always call bus a "chimp" or chimpy""

- I'm not quite sure what you're trying to say... but, I've never heard the democratic party using the term 'chimp' in reference to anything other than primates. And especially not the republican party or conservatives.

Anon also said, "I 'll just bet you had little or no outrage over the racist comments made by the left wingnut luminaries about Colin Powell and Condi Rice too right?"

- If you care to cite and post a link to these alleged comments by any democratic lawmakers, I'll be happy to denounce them as racist, just as I did yours. Please... feel free to find those links for me.

James why now are you suddenly changing the players in the game. Nobody said anything about the democrat party saying anything. You are not (as far as I know anyway) from the democrat party and I am sureley not a member of the democrat party. This is not about the democrat party per se . You can find for yourself various editorial cartoons and editorial writings and blogs with numerous references to President Bush as "chimpy" and other derrogatory names. Danny Glover and Belafonte have referred to Colin Powell and Condi rice as house niggers or something to that effect.
Why do you leftisist always try and change the subject? There was no mention of the democrat party saying these things only supporters of the democrat party making outrageous statements.I am sure you are aware of such things being said but in your selective liberal memory you now ask that I provide the links for you- bullshit pal - look them up yourself. They are there if you really want to see just how racist the left can be when it suits them.
The democrat party has no problem with Robert Byrd being an ex klan member years ago but will use alleged racial slurs by george Allen years ago to further their agenda and trash Allen.
liberals always use the race card when it suits them. Glad to see James that you like most leftists have become the self appointed defenders of non white people.
and once again because it seems that you are reading impaired- there was no metion made of democrat party- only the far left wingnut party supporters who can cry "racism" when it suits them.

Anon said, "use alleged racial slurs by george Allen years ago"

- Ummm.. how about video taped racial slurs from last month? Macacca? Remember that one?

liberalism is on the decline and has been on the decline for at least the last 20 years.

the liberals still control the media and the 'news media," which is essentially an adjunct of the entertainment industry.

james - so what? Allen has done good things for the "minorities" who you benevolent liberal white people think are not capable of advancing themselves without your help. You lefties are the real racists with your beliefs and programs that appear to try to help Blacks but only keep them further in poverty and servitude. Liberals will give a hand out but conservatives will give a hand up. I would much rather see Blacks owning their own businesses than living in the projects collecting the white man's welfare.
That's why people call Obama a chimp because he parrrots Jesse Jackson and the reverend Al. These guys NEED to keep racism alive in order to get a paycheck . If there is no racism then leave it to one of these clowns to stir some up. What they don't realize is that they perpetuate racism for it's own sake- in order to get money and keep themselves viable. Keep up the "victimization" and keep up the paychecks. All the NAACP and cohorts have done is turn into an extortion game. From the NAACP to SPLC all these charlatans have done is libe their own pockets and not really helped "their people". And just the other day Obama, who could have actually been a viable candiate in my mind until he sang the praises of Jesse Jackson, showed himself to be just another extortionist supporter.
If I were a black man I would be embarrassed by the efforts of Jackson et al and the lily white liberals who thought that I could not make it without their benevolence and help. I have Black neighbors who own their own houses all around me and believe me they do not need anybody's help to cry racism to get ahead- they live by their own merits and abilities.
the next time some liberal cries racism know that is from their own guilt. They must feel guilty thinking that Blacks cannot make it without their help.

Anon said, "These guys (Obama) NEED to keep racism alive in order to get a paycheck ."

- I don't think I've ever heard a more bigotted statement in my life.