How can a comment about "neglecting your education" possibly be construed to apply to someone whose education includes degrees from Yale and Harvard?

The GOP knows I can't tell a joke. It's all their fault. I wonder where Krazy Keith gets his man-tan. My 10 gallons tub of bronze is just about empty.......

Riiight....

Next your gonna tell me that Bush got better grades than Kerry...sure...

Great "newscast" again this evening...

They bring on Joe Trippi to analyze the race...nothing like having someone on analyzing the November elections who refers to the Democratic Party as "WE" on several occasions.

Yes, I think it is definitely fair to assume we are getting an impartial analysis.

I think Joe Trippi fell and bumped his head, because only the far-left wingnuts believe anything he had to say.

Oh man, the Dems' butts are on fire tonight with this Kerry blunder. It's funny to see Olby frantically trying to put out the flames. And with Olby's "fat ass," that may take some work.

Keith will talk about Bill O'Reilly even when the news story has absolutely nothing to do with Bill O'Reilly.

Keith Rules!

Amazing that the democratic party has to rely on "Citizen Keith" to save the day. The party is bankrupt and Olby is trying to prevent foreclosure.

Obviously Kerry did not attack the troops, but the idiot can't even apologize for the statement. And the dems wonder why they are in the minority?

If they're relying on Citizen Keith to save the day, they're screwed.

TiVo alert...Special Comment tommorrow.
Light a candle.

Remember if the Demo-flip-floppers need Krazy Keith's fat-ass to put out the Kerry fire he may slip up and slip out one of those Taco-bell gas bombs and blow the place up!

He'll blame it on the GOP, just like everything else.

Chris Wallace Ambush REVEALED....This guy could sit at the left hand of Goebells or Pravada.

At least Citizen Keith did not call Wallace a Monkey this time.

The show's not over yet.

I was happy to see Olby revisited the Wallace-Clinton interview. It's hard to get enough of the intellectual beatdown of the year.

its not keiths fault most of the people on the worst list are conservative, jeez if rush and o reilly stopped making horrible statements maybe youll get more liberals on there too

I saw the Wallace interview...Citizen Keith is rewriting history.

I like how every story that Keith does that has appeared somewhere else is "regurgitated" or "old news" or "shown on NBC earlier" or whatever.

This show is a COMPILATION of news stories. Believe it or not, that sometimes involves showing other reports and/or interviews.

Did john just say, "its not keiths fault most of the people on the worst list are conservative, jeez if rush and o reilly stopped making horrible statements maybe youll get more liberals on there too"????

Ummmm....when you say "more liberals", did you mean more than zero??

I like how every story that Keith does that has appeared somewhere else is "regurgitated" or "old news" or "shown on NBC earlier" or whatever.

This show is a COMPILATION of news stories. Believe it or not, that sometimes involves showing other reports and/or interviews.

So an impartial interviewer asked Clinton for his autograph? Big deal. At least he's not handing him a check.

'ol goofy-doofy olby sure had his kneepads on tonight fellating the titular heads of the demoncrat party. Wipe your chin olbermann .
This so called "news reporter" still does not comprehend that asking Klinton a legitimate question is not "sandbagging" . Well maybe coming from somebodylike olbermann who knows nothing about being a true news reporter but everything about being a nutcase political hack I guess he would not know news if spilled into his finely groomed face.
Oh the whining continues on Dumbdown with Kieth Olbermann. In his segment about the Indian coconut climbers he does not even realize in that calling it new that American deer hunters have been using the same exact thing- they are called climbing deer stands. What a dumbass. Olbermann must not get out of New York City much.
I just cannot wait for the jocularity and outright hysteria that he will bring with his much awaited new "special comment" tommorrow. Well isn't that special?
The biggest a--hole on TV will all implore us to believe his whining diatribe in favor of liberal demoncrats. Bring your hankie, it's sure to be a tear jerker.

Also, why no mention of the Democratic blogger causing the scene at the George Allen rally today?

I mean, the show is apolitical, surely he would mention it.

An autograph? That's the big story? If Chris was a Christine, Slick Willie would be asking for a Beege in return.

"Riiight....

Next your gonna tell me that Bush got better grades than Kerry...sure..."

And the next thing you're gonna tell me is that Kerry actually went to war and saw combat and Bush used his daddy's influence to get a fluffy, do-nothing position that he couldn't even show up for in the National Guard.... sure...

Also, why no mention of the Democratic blogger causing the scene at the George Allen rally today?
Posted by: Ohio Mike at October 31, 2006 09:09 PM

It's a good thing Keith didn't show that video. It looks like Allen's goons attacked him. What do you have against a Virginia citizen asking his senator a question?

Iraq is a nightmare and you all know it. Trashing Keith takes your mind off of it. It will never go away. It was on a republicans watch that all those American lives here and over there were lost. They had the power they craved and they sucked. Face up to it. Kerry or Clinton is not the issue. The republican nightmare is never to be forgoten.

To all of those people that really think what Kerry said was a crime I have to say I disagree.

I respect and honor ALL of the people who fight or have fought for this country in the armed services. They are HEROES.

That doesn't change the fact that many of the soldiers are there because they don't have as many options as the wealthy or those with scholastic scholarships.

If you think the military is loaded with sons and daughters of the captains of industry, think again. It is made up primarily of young men and women trying to make something more of themselves because they don't have much money and need more education.

I don't think many Senators or Representatives have kids in Iraq.

indierik then what do you and the olbyloon have against a real journalist asking an ex-president a real question??
and George Bush DID get better grades than kerry.

Olbermann was whining" Gee Chris Wallace sandbagged Klinton and got an autograph, I actually paid him for his interview with me and all I got was this lousy DNA stain on my new suit"!

The kook with the apricot hue
Used "monkey" when insulting a Jew
That's par for Keith's course
The hind end of a horse
Is where Uberloon has a good view

indierik,

Well, to answer your question about what I have against a Virginia citizen asking his senator a question, please read the following article:

http://www.jacksonville.com/apnews/stories/103106/D8L3U9H81.shtml

Please focus on the following section:

In a Monday posting on "Calling All Wingnuts," the liberal Web log Stark publishes, he hinted that he would attempt to provoke Allen before the TV cameras.

"I'm also trying to `Roger and Me' George Allen whenever I can," Stark wrote, referring to director Michael Moore's 1989 documentary in which he repeatedly tried to confront former General Motors' chief executive Roger Smith about the company's downsizing.

In August, Stark similarly approached Allen after a speech at a hotel near Staunton, loudly asking if he had ever used a common six-letter epithet against blacks.

Yeah, he is obviously just wanting to "ask his senator a question"....

"Citizen Keith" knew tonight was a losing effort. Kerry swiftboated his own party. His uppercrust, nerd, preppy, "let me tell a dubya joked" blew up in his face. They're not talking about Foley and young boys anymore, they are talking about Kerry damage control. Kerry is the quintessential idiot.

Keith has lost the privilege to be called by is given name. He shall now be known by his new name Kent Ovaries. That is all thank you.

Keith has lost the privilege to be called by is given name. He shall now be known by his new name Kent Ovaries. That is all thank you.

Time for Kerry to go windsurfing...alone.

My MSNBC unnamed,unidentified,high ranking,inside sources tell me that Krazy Keith rub that giant check that he gave to Bubba all over his body like a amorous kitty cat even smudging his man-tan in the process.

Dana Milbank and Aaron Brown must use the same hair color.

"indierik then what do you and the olbyloon have against a real journalist asking an ex-president a real question??"
Posted by: Anonymous at October 31, 2006 09:18 PM

I have nothing against the Wallace questioning. I'm just surprised Wallace didn't expect to get hammered, as he did. I know the right applauded when Bush fought back hard in the Matt Lauer interview (For the record I enjoyed it to. Lauer is weak.), and I like when politicians on both side of the aisle are forced to take on questions they feel cross the line. It's the same reason I don't like Olby (sorry Keith) or Hannity type interviews.

Ohio Mike- again, if he's a citizen he has the right to speak to his senator whether the senator will like the question or not. Did Mike Stark deserve to get thrown down? Those goons are lucky Stark contained himself, he's a former Marine that has been taught to take care of himself.

indierik,

Please just take a gander at his blog....you will see that he has no desire in "asking a question", and is only looking to cause problems.

Bush's SAT scores were higher than Kerry's. Bush got better grades at Yale than Kerry. Kerry's explanation for his low GPA was "I was taking flying lessons". Bush never made an excuse but he had an even better one: He was drinking half a case of Carling Black Label every night. Yet he still had better grades than His Lordship John Kerry(or is it the 3rd Viscount Halifax)

Senator Maccaca....Amazing how it rolls out of Citizen Keith's mouth with no backlash. Just the way he called Chris Wallace a monkey.

If it's just as bad as using the "n" word in other cultures, then why does Olby use the word over and over again?

Bush's SAT scores were higher than Kerry's. Bush got better grades at Yale than Kerry. Kerry's explanation for his low GPA was "I was taking flying lessons". Bush never made an excuse but he had an even better one: He was drinking half a case of Carling Black Label every night. Yet he still had better grades than His Lordship John Kerry(or is it the 3rd Viscount Halifax)

J$,

You have the wrong day's ratings linked above.

John (Lerch) Kerry's pathetic excuse for his outrageous comment is that he was commenting on George Bush not doing well in school.

Uh.. Senator..check the facts. Bush had better grades in college than Kerry did.

By the way, did you know Kerry served in Vietnam?
I hadn't heard that yet.

There are some pretty lame people in the world. I am learning this coming to this site. Kerry was talking about Bush not being educated in the history of Iraq and of Islam. You are some thick folks.

I agree he was not targeting the troops, but the pompous ass could not even apologize to those he hurt.

It's obvious now what he MEANT to say, but what he ACTUALLY said did, in fact, imply that people who join the service are uneducated. Rather than apologize for misspeaking, he let loose a display of his trademark arrogance and disingenuous dissembling.

Claiming Iraq is...

- something we're "stuck in"

or

- something we're "losing in"

...is to spit on the service and effort of every military soldier who has served there...even if you say it to try and take a jab at the President.

Little Feechie,

He may not have been "targeting the troops", but it certainly magnifies the consistently chronic flaw of the Democratic Party in that their perception of "elitism" allows them to look down their nose at the very people who have made a "choice" to "volunteer" to defend their country and make the most out of their eyes. His quotes only serve to reinforce the inference that Democrats admonish the military and what it stands for and instead base "success in life" and "one's value to society" by whether or not one has completed a college education. It is this cultural division from mainstream America that has costed them election after election.

After hearing the explanation, I don't think Kerry intended to malign the military. Without explaining his comment, it sounded as if he said if the students flunked out, they'd end up in the military because they were washouts. As most people do not follow pols so closely, I believe that Kerry needed to offer an explanation and apologize for the comment as it was vague and was unintentionally offensive.

Little Feechie,

He may not have been "targeting the troops", but it certainly magnifies the consistently chronic flaw of the Democratic Party in that their perception of "elitism" allows them to look down their nose at the very people who have made a "choice" to "volunteer" to defend their country and make the most out of their lives. His quotes only serve to reinforce the inference that Democrats admonish the military and what it stands for and instead base "success in life" and "one's value to society" by whether or not one has completed a college education. It is this cultural division from mainstream America that has costed them election after election.

Re: "college education"

"Liberal Brainwashing"

good points Lucas.

It is interesting to see that the right has embraced political correctness so completely.

Little Feechie,

He may not have been "targeting the troops", but it certainly magnifies the consistently chronic flaw of the Democratic Party in that their perception of "elitism" allows them to look down their nose at the very people who have made a "choice" to "volunteer" to defend their country and make the most out of their lives.

You are "spinning" his meaning and trying to use as an advantage to say it represents what Democrats believe. He misspoke. You know what he meant. The public has pretty much made their mind up about Kerry. You know he was only one state away from being elected your president. He fought in a war. I think he probably met a lot of folks, poor, rich, educated and uneducated when he was in the service. He knows who is there. Move on to something else.

"Claiming Iraq is...

- something we're "stuck in"

or

- something we're "losing in"

...is to spit on the service and effort of every military soldier who has served there...even if you say it to try and take a jab at the President."

I don't think so.
Saying we're stuck or losing in Iraq IN NO WAY "spits" on every soldier who has served there.
PLEASE.
People are capable of criticizing the way the war is going while still appreciating and respecting the soldiers.
The soldiers don't decide what we do over there. They take and follow orders.
It is possible to criticize those orders and decisions without "spitting" on the soldiers.

If you can't see that you are either a hopeless Bushie or not too smart.

tee-hee-tee-hee...*snort*...*chortle*...*snicker*...

I wuzz only tellin' a JOKE people!!!! Get yerselves a SENSE OF HUMOUR will ya!!!!

I know I shot myself in the foot (AGAIN!) while I was sticking it in my mouth, but come on...

Just gimme another purple heart, NOW!!!! I DESERVE IT!!!! nyuk-yuk-yuk-yuk-yuk....

Re: "college education"
"Liberal Brainwashing"

Ya ok...
What's the alternative? NOT getting a college education? Living in ignorance and not preparing for the rest of your adult life?

Just because the republicans don't want to in any way make education easier to get for Americans doesn't mean you should simply dismiss going to college.

Last time I checked most of the craziest right wing nutjobs in our government went to college too.

I know I shot myself in the foot (AGAIN!) while I was sticking it in my mouth, but come on...

Just gimme another purple heart, NOW!!!! I DESERVE IT!!!! nyuk-yuk-yuk-yuk-yuk....

Posted by: John "Effin' " Kerry at October 31, 2006 10:33 PM

Clearly you are ready to believe anything negative about poltical figures you disagree with. Oh sorry, I mean who your radio and tv leaders tell you to disagree with. The idea that Kerry shot himself is really stuoid and shows disrespect for a soldier. You are the one who is lacking respect.

"Just gimme another purple heart, NOW!!!! I DESERVE IT!!!! nyuk-yuk-yuk-yuk-yuk...."

Apparently the decision-makers in the military that all of you rednecks are so fond of defending to the death just give those fancy ribbons away to anyone, right? Kerry didn't deserve them, did he?

Just curious, any of you guys got any of those fancy ribbons? Do any of the Neo-Cons?

The soldiers don't decide what we do over there. They take and follow orders.

* Posted by: The Truth at October 31, 2006 10:30 PM

Who do you think is giving and following the day to day orders in Iraq?

Politicians here in America?

You think Bush, Rumsfeld or even the Joint Chiefs handle the day to day military details in Iraq??

No...other soldiers in Iraq give the orders.

It's one thing to say "We can do better"...but it's another thing to say "We are losing"

Last time I checked most of the craziest right wing nutjobs in our government went to college too.

Nice. Last time I checked, I went to college too. Bachelor's Degree in Aerospace and Mechanics. Then I got some more education with a Master's in Aerospace Engineering.

Still, it didn't prevent me from witnessing "on a daily basis" how prevalent and unabashedly open the liberal agenda was throughout my career.

I'm not knocking those who choose to get a college education. I'm knocking the institution and how flawed and irresponsible it has become since the hippie era.

I'm not knocking those who choose to get a college education. I'm knocking the institution and how flawed and irresponsible it has become since the hippie era.

Posted by: LucasCop at October 31, 2006 10:40 PM

And what was before the hippie era? The segragationist era? before that? The woman can't vote era. The slavery era? When were the good old days? I'd like to know.

Uh-oh, I've offended codas' sensitive sensibilities. Kerry screwed up his lame "joke" and now he is paying for it. Too fucking bad for you and the dhimmicrat party hopefuls.

"Who do you think is giving and following the day to day orders in Iraq?
Politicians here in America?
You think Bush, Rumsfeld or even the Joint Chiefs handle the day to day military details in Iraq??
No...other soldiers in Iraq give the orders."
It's one thing to say "We can do better"...but it's another thing to say "We are losing"

Who said ANYTHING about the day-to-day operations?
The problem is NOT the day-to-day operations. The problem is the strategy and planning of war operations, NOT the carrying out of those plans.

I mean really, can you not comprehend this?
A soldier may perform AMAZINGLY well in his duties. HEROICLY in fact. That does not mean that the job he was given to do was the right one.

I used to give Mrs Bush a break because she was married to an idiot, but accusing MJ Fox of being manipulative was over the top. Oh heck, it was probably just the Prozack talking. Maybe those sick people really should just shut up and stop using their disease to find a cure for their disease.

If you hear the entire clip as played on Hardball, it is clear that Kerry is talking about Bush. Even Pat Buchanan agreed to that. So shut up and ask Bush to apologize to our service men and women for ilegally putting them in harm's way and get us the heck out of their.

I coulda swore that West Point was a 4 year college...

"It's one thing to say "We can do better"...but it's another thing to say "We are losing""

Since you seem to not like the term "losing", could you please define "winning"??
Could you also please define "victory"??
Since we won't leave until we WIN or achieve VICTORY could that please be defined?
Or is it the old, "We'll know it when we see it, now just trust your President" BS??

Also, would you expect Bill Parcells to go into the lockerroom at halftime, losing 42-0 and tell his guys, "We're not losin fellas. We can do better".

A soldier may perform AMAZINGLY well in his duties. HEROICLY in fact. That does not mean that the job he was given to do was the right one.

* Posted by: The Truth at October 31, 2006 10:45 PM

Let me see if I can rephrase that...

Liberal says to the U.S. soldier, "Good job, soldier. Good job at doing the wrong thing (which is my opinion although it may not be yours). And congratulations on all your efforts for a losing War."

Thanks for setting me straight...I got it now.

Too fucking bad for you and the dhimmicrat party hopefuls.

Posted by: John "Effin' " Kerry at October 31, 2006 10:45 PM

That is until this country kicks repelican ass out in the street next week.

Thanks for setting me straight...I got it now.

Posted by: JustTheTruth at October 31, 2006 10:51 PM

Brain damge is what you got.

"Nice. Last time I checked, I went to college too. Bachelor's Degree in Aerospace and Mechanics. Then I got some more education with a Master's in Aerospace Engineering.
Still, it didn't prevent me from witnessing "on a daily basis" how prevalent and unabashedly open the liberal agenda was throughout my career.
I'm not knocking those who choose to get a college education. I'm knocking the institution and how flawed and irresponsible it has become since the hippie era."

I respect your education as well. In fact I would respect anyone's dedication to being the best at anything they can be.

I too went to college and at times found it pretty liberal. Not always though. I don't think its fair to say "college education = liberal brainwashing". If that was the case how do so many students stay republican after they leave school?
People are exposed to many different views in every facet of their life. Some influence them, some don't.

something about the "kerry was obviously referring to bush" spin which needs to be slapped down hard is the "obviously" part.

progressives have been doing battle with the institution of an all volunteer military since mid 2003, branding it early on as a "poverty draft".

the battle became formalized and physical with the so-called "counter-recruiting" movement and tactics developed by the afsc. this gave members of the media and pundits a means to newsify their agenda against our armed forces. when counter-recruiters were active, any seasonal dip in recruiting numbers were eagerly promoted through alarmist news items.

but two years of examination disproved the assertion that counter-recruiters presented any real effect on recruiting numbers. the media elites' explaination for this phenomenon has been to reaffirrm their base conciet that the only type of person capable of military duty is stupid by issuing news items asserting that the military has lowered its recruiting standards.

a google search of "lowering" "recruiting" "standards" results in thousands of hits from both the mainstream and leftwing activist media:

http://www.slate.com/id/2127487/ (uses the term "dumbing down" to describe new recruits)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15197832/
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1004-01.htm
etc.

other terms may be as effective. the point is that the leftwing conciet that military servicemembers are charictarized by intellectual inferiority, and that it is the noble concern of decent people that the military is the leading predator of our nation's stupid, is one which is profligate and comfortably shared amongst the left.

in stark contradiction of the notion that kerry "obviously" could not have meant the troops, it is in fact unlikely that he intended to convey otherwise. his message was not meant, to his thinking, with wanton malice. rather his intention was to spur his audience to moral action - to strengthen education as an alternative to the predatory appeals of military service.

of course, a shorter route to disproving kerry's spin is to try to parse bush into kerry's statement:

"education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you [may become a president who get's our country] stuck in Iraq."

i mean, honestly.

"Liberal says to the U.S. soldier, "Good job, soldier. Good job at doing the wrong thing (which is my opinion although it may not be yours). And congratulations on all your efforts for a losing War.""

Ya, that's it all right...
How about, "You put your life on the line for us, soldier. You performed bravely and admirably. I'm sorry we didn't get you the body armor you needed or enough backup to safely do your job. You did all anyone could ask of you."

I ask you...

Who's smarter?

The guy who IS President or the guy who lost?

To all of those people that really think what Kerry said was a crime I have to say I disagree.

I respect and honor ALL of the people who fight or have fought for this country in the armed services. They are HEROES.

That doesn't change the fact that many of the soldiers are there because they don't have as many options as the wealthy or those with scholastic scholarships.

If you think the military is loaded with sons and daughters of the captains of industry, think again. It is made up primarily of young men and women trying to make something more of themselves because they don't have much money and need more education.

I don't think many Senators or Representatives have kids in Iraq.

Posted by: The Truth at October 31, 2006 09:18 PM

Kerrys backing away from that angle. He's to big a coward to stand by his words. We have an all volunteer military. Kerrys also an admitted war criminal. He testified to participating in free fire zones, and witnessing atrocities that he didnt report to his superiors or that didnt happen. Kerrys my new favorite Dumocrat, fumbling at the goal line.......

Oh Brother. Where to begin? His entire report on the Chris Wallace interview with Bill Clinton was just unbelievable. "Unfair, ambush question"? Come on. The man himself said the question was "a perfectly legitimate question". Then, after commecial after commercial of "Exclusive new information about the Chris Wallace/Bill Clinton interview that you won't believe", it turned out to be the smallest and most unimportant thing. Chris Wallace asked Bill Clinton to sign his questbook. Wow! Stop the presses! Please Keith. Is this who you want to be? A partisan shill? I was hoping you were better than that.

How about, "You put your life on the line for us, soldier. You performed bravely and admirably. I'm sorry we didn't get you the body armor you needed or enough backup to safely do your job. You did all anyone could ask of you."

* Posted by: The Truth at October 31, 2006 11:02 PM

This I can agree with.

There's just no need to say they are "Losing the War" or "Stuck in Iraq".

"I ask you...

Who's smarter?

The guy who IS President or the guy who lost?"

I hope you don't believe Dubya is the smarter of the two. He can barely speak the language and he has destroyed every single business (including running the country) he got his hands on.
If he were posting on this site I don't even think he'd be the smartest one out here.

"I ask you...

Who's smarter?

The guy who IS President or the guy who lost?"
Posted by: JustTheTruth at October 31, 2006 11:02 PM

Yeah, that's a real strong argument. It's kinda like saying Britney Spears is a better artist than Marvin Gaye because she sold more albums.

Jummy,

You pretty much summed it up as far as I'm concerned.

Chris Wallace asked Bill Clinton to sign his questbook. Wow!
****************************************
Yea...I was surprised Wallace didn't give Clinton a check on air to inflate his ego. :)

Is KO trying to start a one-sided feud with Wallace now?

Mister Kerry was dumb in '04
In '06 he's worse than before
Open mouth, insert shoe
What more can he do?
Except bring back that moron Al Gore

Kerrys backing away from that angle. He's to big a coward to stand by his words.

Posted by: Welfare is Slavery at October 31, 2006 11:03 PM

If Kerry is a coward what the hell is Bush, Cheney and the rest of the Neo-Con band of brothers?
You're talking about someone who LIVED through the horrors of war.
A coward would be the guy that was too busy snorting coke, getting drunk and wrapping his car around trees to show up for National Guard duty.

I hope you don't believe Dubya is the smarter of the two. He can barely speak the language and he has destroyed every single business (including running the country) he got his hands on.
If he were posting on this site I don't even think he'd be the smartest one out here.

* Posted by: The Truth at October 31, 2006 11:07 PM

This is why I, a Pro-Choice Atheist, will continue to vote Republican.

Only a Liberal would think that the measure of one's intelligence is their public speaking prowess.

And only a Liberal would say that this country, with all it's prosperity, is ruined...

What color is the sky in your sad pathetic world??

It must be terrible waking up everyday and being you.

Has anyone noticed that John Kerry is not on the ballot? GOP strategy: Change the subject whenever possible!

Has anyone noticed that John Kerry is not on the ballot? GOP strategy: Change the subject whenever possible!

* Posted by: Phil at October 31, 2006 11:16 PM

Um...neither is Bush.

"If Kerry is a coward what the hell is Bush, Cheney and the rest of the Neo-Con band of brothers?
You're talking about someone who LIVED through the horrors of war."- The Truth

It's amazing how the Neocons, at one time, hammered Clinton for being a draft dodger and they are protecting the president that did everything he could to not be sent to war (the plane he learned to fly was never even used in Vietnam). It just shows how willing they are to eat whatever the GOP will feed them. Just a pack of Republican lever pullers.

Ohio Mike, I have corrected that link. Thanks for pointing it out. I have also deleted the spam reposting of this entire page by codas.

This is why I, a Pro-Choice Atheist, will continue to vote Republican.

Only a Liberal would think that the measure of one's intelligence is their public speaking prowess.

And only a Liberal would say that this country, with all it's prosperity, is ruined...

What color is the sky in your sad pathetic world??

It must be terrible waking up everyday and being you.

Posted by: JustTheTruth at October 31, 2006 11:14 PM

His inteligence is evident in more than the way he speaks. But it does go a long way in showing his lack of wisdom. Calling himself the decider and believing in the road map to peace was not very smart. Not knowing that there are different sects of Islam in Iraq. This countries reputation overseas is ruined. Maybe in the sad pathetic color of your world that doesn't matter. That shows your inteligence level.

Both Kerry and Bush should just go to their respective corners and shut up! Neither one is helping their cause at the moment.

By the way, I heard Mrs' Hillary and other Democrats accused of being "angry" a few months back, as if that were a bad thing. Nobody I've heard recently sounds as angry as Bush has sounded the last couple of days. Why is it OK for Bush, but not the Dems?

Why is it OK for Bush, but not the Dems?

Posted by: phil at October 31, 2006 11:27 PM

Because repelicans rule!

That shows your inteligence level.

* Posted by: codas at October 31, 2006 11:27 PM

"intelligence" has 2 L's

When trying to make a point...that's one word you should never misspell

When I can get in maybe I can also clean up this thread by deleting the spam reposting of the entire page by codas.

Posted by: johnny dollar at October 31, 2006 11:19 PM

Delete me if you wish. I wise man once said. "You can put a bullit in my head, but you can't kill a single word I ever said". If you cant take the heat, get out of the kitchen. You have a website, I have an opinion. If you don't want me here than block me.

No I delete you when you repost the entire page, from the top to the last comment, into a new comment. That is not permitted and if you keep doing it I'll keep deleting it until Mr Cox decides that he's had enough. And then he can block you.

No I delete you when you repost the entire page, from the top to the last comment, into a new comment. That is not permitted and if you keep doing it I'll keep deleting it until Mr Cox decides that he's had enough. And then he can block you.

Posted by: johnny dollar at October 31, 2006 11:35 PM

And just what exactly makes me special. You are going to delete others also I hope. Including those who insult on your side of the street so to speak.

I don't know what you are talking about "repost the entire page, from the top to the last comment, into a new comment." What does that mean? I'm Serious. I don't underatand.

codas- I think it was the work of a "Double Agent Troll". Someone copied this entire page of comments and reposted it under the name "codas". It made it looked like you spammed the site.

That meant you posted a comment that simply duplicated everything on the page, from the very top including all of tonight's show recap down to the comments that came after it, and put it all in one humungously long comment. I've seen this trick before, by people who want to bog down a site that already isn't the fastest responding site around. If it was some sort of bizarre accident you need not worry, because presumably you won't do it again. But if you do, it will lead people to think you ARE trying to spam the site, which I'm assuming was not your intention.

Johnny Dollar said:

"For the second day in a row there was no reporting whatsoever of the air strike at an Al Qaeda training center in Pakistan."

How about because nobody is sure WHO actually carried out the attack? The U.S. says that they may have used a Predator drone to make the strike, while the Pakistanis say that THEY were the ones who carried out the assault.

If it was some sort of bizarre accident you need not worry, because presumably you won't do it again. But if you do, it will lead people to think you ARE trying to spam the site, which I'm assuming was not your intention.

Posted by: johnny dollar at October 31, 2006 11:47 PM

I can assure that I did not do such a thing on purpose. I have stated many times that I apreciate this site and the opportunity to speak my mind on it.

I would add that a couple times here someone posted stuff sarcasticly with my name under it that I did not write. Just asking, but could that have happened?

It was your IP, so it was not an imposter. Just be careful in the future because that sort of stuff can bog everything down, even when it was done inadvertently.

I just noticed that you stopped counting the number of attacks on Bill OReilly? Did i miss the memo on this, or is this something new?

Once he went over the 100 mark we took a break. But they're all recorded, so if we want to pick up the count again, we can.

Ok thanks. I was getting worried there for a second. By the way--Great review of tonite's hour of spin.

Letter from Mike Stark

Richmond Times-Dispatch

Oct 31, 2006

The following is a letter to NBC29 from Mike Stark, the man who was tackled for a comment he made at Senator Allen's campaign stop in Charlottesville on Tuesday.

My name is Mike Stark. I am a law student at the University of Virginia, a marine, and a citizen journalist. Earlier today at a public event, I was attempting to ask Senator Allen a question about his sealed divorce record and his arrest in the 1970s, both of which are in the public domain. His people assaulted me, put me in a headlock, and wrestled me to the ground. Video footage is available here, from an NBC affiliate.

I demand that Senator Allen fire the staffers who beat up a constituent attempting to use his constitutional right to petition his government. I also want to know why Senator Allen would want his staffers to assault someone asking questions about matters of public record in the heat of a political campaign. Why are his divorce records sealed? Why was he arrested in the 1970s? And why did his campaign batter me when I asked him about these questions.

George Allen defends his support of the Iraq war by saying that our troops are defending the ideals America stands for. Indeed, he says our troops are defending our very freedom. What kind of country is it when a Senator's constituent is assaulted for asking difficult and uncomfortable questions? What freedoms do we have left? Maybe we need to bring the troops home so that they can fight for freedom at George Allen's campaign events. Demanding accountability should not be an offense worthy of assault.

I will be pressing charges against George Allen and his surrogates later today. George Allen, at any time, could have stopped the fray. All he had to do was say, "This is not how my campaign is run. Take your hands off that man." He could have ignored my questions. Instead he and his thugs chose violence. I spent four years in the Marine Corps. I'll be damned if I'll let my country be taken from me by thugs that are afraid of taking responsibility for themselves.

It just isn't the America I know and love. Somebody needs to take a stand against those that would bully and intimidate their fellow citizens. That stand begins right here, right now.

W. Michael Stark

Bill O'lielly how'd you feel about this ?...

2004
The New York Post reports that Franken, who recently signed a one-year deal with Progressive Media to host a live, three-hour liberal radio show to apparently challenge Rush Limbaugh, broke his glasses in the confrontation, but was not hurt after charging at a male supporter of Democrat presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche when he began yelling at Dean.

Franken, who said he was "deputized" by the Dean campaign to handle the heckler, said he did what he had to do to subdue the person trying to distract Dean from his message.

"I got down low and took his legs out," Franken stated, explaining he needed to fix his broken glasses with electrical tape after the fall.

Franken picked up the unidentified LaRouche supporter and body slammed him to the ground.

"I was a wrestler so I used a wrestling move," Franken exclaimed.

The police were called to the scene, but Franken was not immediately arrested for battery. The victim has not said whether he will pursue criminal charges against Franken.

Although he says he is not supporting Dean for president, Franken explained his physical action against the heckler was necessary to protect free speech.

"I'm neutral in this race but I'm for freedom of speech, which means people should be able to assemble and speak without being shouted down," Franken argued, neglecting the fact that he squelched the free speech rights of the heckler with his actions.

Afterwards, Franken said he would probably do it again if someone tried to vocally protest while a Democrat presidential candidate was speaking.

"I would have done it if he was a Dean supporter at a Kerry rally," he explained.

Can you say double standard Bill O'lielly..I knew you could :)

You're talking about someone who LIVED through the horrors of war."- The Truth
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Like John McCain(who suffered real injuries not just paper cuts) who called on Kerry to apologize to the troops?

I wonder how Keith Olbermann feels knowing that he affected these imbeciles so much that they had to create this masturbatory site?

Pretty good I bet.

KO didn't take a whack at the paper that broke the story, but let me. The paper is stupid. They took the line completely out of context. The whole pre-speech was made up of (poor) jokes about the administration. Who has seen the whole speech and still believes that Kerry bashed the troops? Well, ok, you're stupid, too.

If KO didn't scare the living shit out of you, this site wouldn't exist. Keep it building, suckers.

whats a rattlesnake in a woodpile?

whats a rattlesnake in a woodpile?

indierik,

Given that I asked you at 9:36 PM last night to actually read Mr. Stark's blog before defending his attempt to simply "ask his Senator a question", and you never made a single comment after that fact regarding it, I will assume that you realize that this wasn't a fight worth fighting.

Your silence speaks volumes. Thanks for not being too extreme of an idiologue.

Ohio Mike- I'm familiar with the Callingallwingnuts blog. I guess you're saying that if you're a blogger you forfeit your right to ask a senator a question. I'll remember that the next time Drudge shoots his mouth off.

P.S. I bet you voted for Jean Schmidt last year.

Wow! The Republicans are pretty desperate...taking a sentence out of context in a Kerry speech and whining about it like a bunch of little girls...

Wake up, folks! Kerry was talking about Bush before the statement and after. He was refering to the chimp. You want someone who explicitly insulted GIs? You have to look no further than Ann Coulter who refered to them as the bottom rung of society...

seriously i have never heard of a rattlesnake in a woodpile. Are you thinking perhaps of a Maccacca in the woodpile? Crotalus Horridus democratus.
I just can't wait until Kerry takes his foot out of his mouth long enough to take his head out of his ass.
Kissel i think that perhaps you are confusing reptilian traits with liberals like barneyfag and ted kennedy and miz hillary and howard "eeeaaahhh" dean . They are the slithering cold blooded legless chordates that you are referring to..
You liberals should research the lower vertebrates more closely. All the libs actually have more in common with those color changing wonderful lizards the chameleons. Miz clinton is a perfect example . she can change her postion even faster than a chameleon can change it's color.
and as if to seal your obvious liberal ignorance when ya got nothin you can always fall back on the ol tried and true nazi analogy. Wow you are articulate and witty enough to maybe someday be a writer for the olbermann comedy show and democrat pimping hour.

blindrat you leftards are real cute in a special ed sort of way. Nice of you to stop the short bus long enough to stop by ,take your little plastic helmet and bib off and offer some liberal words of wisdom. but that will not change the fact that kerry is an absolute idiot with a bad case of foot in mouth disease. You lefty kooks always complain about Bush being inarticulate yet Kerry cannot even open his big mouth without showing what an absolute whining loser he is.
And if you got nothing you can always bash Ann Coulter right? I never hear Coulter utter one disparaging word about our troops. You lefies cannot even stand one little blond girl kicking your little girly man's butts can you? The pussification of America brought to you by the progressive democrats.
With a person whose party has the likes of Howard "eeeeaaaahhh " dean and ted kennedy I would expect you would use the "chimp" ploy. But evolutionarily speaking the libs are a few notches below Bush when it comes to winning elections.
Blindrat you are so well named! after reading you plagaristic little drivel, stolen directly from DU and Kos and other commie blogs it appears the YOU are not only the bottom rung of society but are actually taking simian evolution backwards . Tell us all when your knuckles start dragging on the ground and we'll try to get you signed up as a democrat candidate.

"whats a rattlesnake in a woodpile?"

"Rattlesnakes seek protection from the cold by slithering under objects like rocks, undergrowth, split logs in a woodpile..."

Rattlesnakes are cold-blooded creatures. When it's cold, rattlesnakes shut down to the point of being completely immobile. So it would be virtually IMPOSSIBLE to get bitten by one from a cold woodpile. Just another horribly ill-conceived metaphor from nincompoop Keith.

Dear Anonymouse,

I understand your apprehension in having to support a wartime deserter as your leader. It must make the yellow streak down your own back itch when you hear Bush's folks trash every Vietnam veteran that they come up against. It hurts, I'm hip to that, son...

If you'd like the quote by Ann Coulter, let me know. I'll post it if you promise to apologize for your ignorance afterwards...

Deal?

ignorance is entirely your domain blindrat. You just have your liberal panties in a twist beacuse the dopey John Kerry is turning out to be the "October Surprise" for the Republicans. Maybe if Howard dean could duct tape Lurch's big mouth shut after he removes his foot.
No I will not apologize to some juvenile ignorant leftard like you blindrat. i would not even piss in your mouth if your teeth were on fire sonny boy.
Coulter never has said anything bad about our troops fool, that job is held squarely by you progressive commie nutjobs and your little chimps like Kerry and olbertard.
Once again Kerry has done a great deal to help conservatives get elected. thanks John boy! hope to hear from you again in '08!

Hey mouse,

If she never stated it, then agree to my terms, son...

Smell that folks? That's cowardice!

Well put Anon> Yet if sonny boy blindrat's teeth were on fire I would surely stomp that blaze out with my army boots. Every little ember, just to make sure his liberal crap is snuffed for good. Go home lefty. Your propoganda is tired.

Looks like benson is about to run from the same offer...isn't that right, chickenhawk?

benson ya ever notice how brave and mouthy these little leftards are when there is a keyboard between them and the ass kicking they so profoundly deserve?
hey tard- rat go ahead and post your little bastardized Coulter quote if that will help you get aroused enough before th next olbytard comedy and pimp show- ho hum (yawn) you lewft wingnut little twits are so boring and predictable . Kerry makes an a--hole out of himself (as usual) and as the typical little limp wristed left winger you myopic rodent you whine about Coulter and cry Nazi. so what else is new? maybe come back when you grow up and develop a brain and some sand to back it up rat boy. Chickenhawk rat turd?? you know not of what you speak.
DI OPRESSO LIBER! VERITAS ODIT MORAS

JT, thanks. But please do see my post @ 10/26. I have a request for you.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

As usual Victor Davis Hansen puts it in brilliant perspective. From NRO.

Kerryism [Victor Davis Hanson]

Kerry surely must be one of the saddest Democratic liabilities around. Some afterthoughts about his latest gaffe, which is one of those rare glimpses into an entire troubled ideology:

(1) How could John Kerry, born into privilege, and then marrying and divorcing and marrying out of and back into greater inherited wealth, lecture anyone at a city college about the ingredients for success in America? If he were to give personal advice about making it, it would have to be to marry rich women. Nothing he has accomplished as a senator or candidate reveals either much natural intelligence or singular education. Today, Democrats must be wondering why they have embraced an overrated empty suit, and ostracized a real talent like Joe Lieberman.

(2) How could Kerry possibly claim that he was thinking of the uneducated in the context of George Bush, who, after all, went to Harvard and Yale?

(3) Some of the brightest and most educated Americans are not only in the military, but veterans of Iraq. Two of the best educated minds I have met-Col. Bill Hix and Lt. Col. Chris Gibson, both Hoover Security Fellows-were both Iraqi veterans. What is striking about visiting Iraq is the wealth of talent there, from privates to generals. Without being gratuitously cruel, the problem of mediocrity is not in the ranks of the military, but on our university campuses, where half-educated professors and non-serious students killing time are ubiquitous. Personally, I'd wager the intelligence of a Marine Corps private any day over the average D.C. journalist. Every naval officer I met at the USNA, without exception, seemed brighter than John Kerry, whose "brilliance", after all, has managed to offend millions of voters on the eve of a pivotal election. If the Democrats lose, it will be almost painful to watch the recriminations against Kerry fly.

(4) This is not the first, but third, time he has denigrated soldiers in the middle of a war-and there is a systematic theme: John Kerry's assumed superior morality allows him to pass judgment from on high about supposedly lesser folk who become tools of a suspect military: thus we go from limb-loppers and Genghis' hordes to terrorists to dead-beats. The only constant is that the haughtiness is always delivered in the same sanctimonious, self-righteous, and patronizing tone.

(5) The mea culpa that Democrats are blaming the war and not the warriors is laughable after Sens. Durbin, Kennedy, and Kerry have collectively compared American soldiers to Nazis, Pol Pot's killers, Stalinists, terrorists, and Baathists.

(6) The problem is that Kerry is not just a senator, but the most recent presidential candidate of the Democratic Party, and thus in some sense, especially given the diminution of Howard Dean, the megaphone of the entire party.

(7) His pathetic clarification, as he blamed everyone from Tony Snow to Rush Limbaugh, displayed the same Al Gore derangement syndrome, and thus raises a larger question: what is it about George Bush that seems to reduce once sober and experienced liberal pros to infantile ranting?

(8) And why is the supposedly lame Bush so careful in speech, and the self-acclaimed geniuses like a Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, or Howard Dean serially spouting ever more stupidities? For all the Democrats' criticism of George Bush, I can't think of a modern President who has so infrequently put his foot in his public mouth, and, by the same token, can't think of any opposition that on the eve of elections seems to have an almost pathological death wish.

The Democrats should use this occasion to have an autopsy of Kerryism, or this strange new tony liberalism, that has turned noblisse oblige on its head. It used to be that millionaire FDRs and JFKs felt sympathy for those of the lower classes and wished to ensure that the hoi polloi had some shot at the American dream. But today's elite liberals-a Howard Dean, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, George Soros, Ted Turner-love the high life and playact at being leftists simply because they are already insulated from the effects of their own nostrums that always come at someone poorer's expense while providing them some sort of psychological relief from guilt. Poor Harry Truman must be turning over in his grave-from bourbon, cigars, and poker to wind-surfing and L.L. Bean costume of the day says it all. Posted at 8:35 AM

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FLASH CNN is reporting that Kerry once again is tucking his tail and running! Kerry has canceled his appearences in support of democrat candidates. Even Harold Ford, much to his credit, is admonishing Kerry for his traitorous and slanderous remarks. The call for Kerry's resignation is getting louder! You go Kerry! as in go away!!! ' Kerry will do for the democrats in '06 what he did in '04- help them LOSE!
hey leftrad who is the dumb chimp now?? HAHAHAHA!

FLASH CNN is reporting that Kerry once again is tucking his tail and running! Kerry has canceled his appearences in support of democrat candidates. Even Harold Ford, much to his credit, is admonishing Kerry for his traitorous and slanderous remarks. The call for Kerry's resignation is getting louder! You go Kerry! as in go away!!! ' Kerry will do for the democrats in '06 what he did in '04- help them LOSE!
hey leftards who is the dumb chimp now?? HAHAHAHA!

I'm John Kerry.......hey wait where is evrybody going.....do I smell???

anonymouse,

You still haven't agreed to apologize, son...

And, you are hiding behind the internet in my opinion, child. You neocons talk a good fight, but all you are good for is attacking women and children. That is why you support coward Bush and make fun of veterans like Kerry and Murtha...

The Just Say Anything party strikes again! I've got an idea. While Iraq goes to hell, we'll fisk the live speeches of Dem senators to try and reinterpret lame jokes, so everyone can be oh-so-offended and shocked-- shocked, I tell you, shocked. That will solve everything.

The president of the United States is spending his days looking for ways people might be inadvertantly offending the troops so he can take offense on their behalf?! Great use of time W. I'll save you some effort. Here are some insults to the troops you can find in your own back pocket;
- Laughing and joking with your retarded SecDef at a memorial service for war dead.
- Preparing only for the best scenario and not even understanding the worst.
- Hanging them out to dry with no clear mission or exit strategy.

Quit spending your days looking for misdelivered and misinterpreted jokes so you can Just Say Anything for electioneering purposes, and get to fucking work fixing what you've screwed up. Bush is the laziest, most political hack we've ever had as president. This is proof. He really believes the problem is political, and that some little political bandaid patched on a gaping policy wound is going to save the patient. But that's all he's got. Stupid gotcha politics and base-rage. When all you've got is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.

Stuff like this is a clear sign to indies that this president simply doesn't understand the job. You're royally botching the mission, and you are still consistently underestimating everything. No one who cared first about the mission, the troops, or the country could desire the continuance of this single-party monstrosity. It's a joke. Bush will ultimately cut and run from Iraq and cause the most damage to American prestige and power of any administration in history. And all he's doing right now is trying to figure out how it can all get pinned on the Democratic party.

Buh bye.

While the media is obsessed parsing the ad libs of someone on no ballot this fall, something truly ominous has just happened in Iraq. The commander-in-chief has abandoned an American soldier to the tender mercies of a Shiite militia. Yes, there are nuances here, and the NYT fleshes out the story today. But the essential fact is clear. In a showdown for control of Baghdad, the Iraqi prime minister took orders from Moqtada al-Sadr, and instructed the U.S. military to withdraw from Sadr City. The American forces were trying both to stabilize the city but also to find a missing American serviceman. He is still missing.

The U.S. military does not have a tradition of abandoning its own soldiers to foreign militias, or of taking orders from foreign governments. No commander-in-chief who actually walks the walk, rather than swaggering the swagger, would acquiesce to such a thing. The soldier appears to be of Iraqi descent who is married to an Iraqi woman. Who authorized abandoning him to the enemy? Who is really giving the orders to the U.S. military in Iraq? These are real questions about honor and sacrifice and a war that is now careening out of any control. They are not phony questions drummed up by a partisan media machine to appeal to emotions to maintain power.

And where, by the way, is McCain on this? Silent on Cheney's "no-brainer" on waterboarding. Silent recently on Iraq. But vocal - oh, how vocal - on Kerry. It tells you something about what has happened to him. And to America.

hey rat manure I don't apologize to leftards I apologize for them! You have given me nothing to apologize for asshat. You should say your sorry for being so stupid and juvenile. What are you trying to do compromise O'lielly's positon as #1 a--hole on this website?
you are nothing more than a little punk with his panties in a twist.
Kerry and Murtha need to have fun made of them. they are chickenshit liberals.
you left wingnuts would be funny if you were not so pathetic.
grow up rat girl.

This Kerry story is a real touchstone for Olby and other MSM outlets. Kerry, a known liar, says something direct and easily understood by his audience. He then lies and claims what he said was directed at the Bush administration. Olbermann immediatelky runs to defend the man known to lie like so:

http://www.swiftvets.com/videos/dazed.mov

Anybody with functioning ears knows what Kerry meant. Only the leftist apologists are buying the lies. Now, one thing Olby didn't count on is Flipper's ability to sell out his friends. What happens to poor Olby if Kerry flips and apologizes?

NBC executives sure are smart running with Meltdown on MSLSD. It makes the entire network look like a biased irreputable enterprise.

"Kerry and Murtha need to have fun made of them. they are chickenshit liberals."
Posted by: Anonymous at November 1, 2006 11:46 AM

Keep in mind this is coming from a coward that hides behind the "Anonymous" title. Why don't you be a man and enlist? Are you content being just another "Guardian of the Keyboard"?

I see O'Reilly's book on our University political book list, where is Keith's book, I did not see it.

The Media never shows us the good part of Iraq. There are people in some part of Iraq have better life than us. The only thing they do is how bad it is.

What Kerry said, if said by those at Fox, or by a Republican, I am sure it is all over. Kerry has insulted all soldiers, veterans and those who died for this country. There is no such thing of misintrpretation. Who will vote for this man to be our president?

Oh My God!!! I just discovered that Bush is actually an enemy agent in disguise!! I don't know how the MSM could have missed this obvious admission of intent to harm our country!!! Someone needs to parse all these political speeches more carefully...we are missing so much!

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

There is NO WAY to misunderstand the statement above. It very clearly says Bush is attempting to harm the United States!!! My god, how can the media miss this? There is no such thing of misintrpretation. Who will vote for this man to be our president? My god I'm going to move to those wonderful prosperous parts of Iraq that no one ever talks about. They have it soooo good.

You might be able to say in a roundabout way that maybe Bush was misinterpreted somehow -- EXCEPT we have the evidence that in fact he is a proven liar, and has indeed found incredible new ways to harm our country. So it's no coincidence. He simply slipped up and admitted to his evil schemes. This is going to guarantee and Democratic sweep this year. I can't believe this almost went unreported!

"There are people in some part of Iraq have better life than us."
Posted by: anonymous at November 1, 2006 12:02 PM

Wake up. There's a reason there are no time shares in Iraq.

AH HA!! To all you head-in-the-sand excuse makers, chew on this:

"It's in our country's interests to find those who would do harm to us and get them out of harm's way." --George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., April 28, 2005

So it's kind of a pattern there, no? How can you losers be so blind?? This man is trying to admit that he hates American Troops. Given his other statement's on torture, he is practically saying he is going to personally torture all of them. But you don't take his words seriously, which is the same mistake we made with Hitler. This man is a secret traitor!! What a bloodbath this election is going to be now. Democrats will controll all 5 houses of congress and the presidency!!

Keep defending Jean Francois and Olbermann will follow you lemmings off the cliff

posted by blinddumbass:

"And, you are hiding behind the internet in my opinion, child. You neocons talk a good fight, but all you are good for is attacking women and children. That is why you support coward Bush and make fun of veterans like Kerry and Murtha..."

Let's see, willie clinton assaulted/raped at least two women and harrassed at least 4 more. Ted Kennedy let a woman drown in a car he drove off in a canal while DUI and he ran home as a "Profile in Courage". It is also rumored he raped a woman. Here's a man that talks about a knowing what a working man goes through when the only bead of sweat ever raised on his brow was from the labor of him humping on some hi-classed whore. His nephew ought to be on death row for driving the shaft of a golf club through a girls head. Skakel pulled the shaft from teh girls head and the end pulled hair from one side of her head till it came out on the other side. The man said he sat in a tree and jacked off watching her through her second floor bedroom window. That's something blindrat would know all about. Robert Byrd participated in beating blacks, burning crosses in blacks yards and use of the N-word on TV. Gary Condit loves to screw aides and them dump them like trash. Then we have Barney the Fag that met his fag luver in the want ads and allowed him to run a gay bordello out of his government paid apartment. Daniel Stubbs raped a 17 year old and was heralded by democrats. Oh but wait, it was consensual. He's still a fag.

The real truth is John Kerry is a coward and a traitor. He got 3 PH's in (3) months for superficial wounds, none requiring medical attention other than salve and a band aide and one was self inflicted. Three wounds a real combat vet would not even seek mediacl attention. In the incident where the Green Beret was pulled from the water, Kerry ran when fire began and only returned when it was over. Now you know why his men supported him.

Jack Murtha is on record stating he did not deserve the PH's and both were for superficial wounds also. His 35 years in the Marines included only one on active duty. Jack Murtha escaped ABSCAM by the skin of his teeth. The video on the net shows him telling the undercover FBI agent "Can I get back with you in 24 hours on that $25k". The FBI decided they had went too long and had to make the arrests. Baby Hughey escaped being caught. Tom Harkin claimed to have flown combat missions in Nam when he flew a C2 out of Japan with supplies to Nam. Gore had two security guards with him while he wrote for a paper. They are all frauds. Just like you blindrat.

See you found enough time to pull yourself and your hand away from your porn long enough to post. You are one miserable person. What drives a person so that this board is his way of getting through the day. Your name calling shows what a child you really are. You barely have a 12 grade "ejukacion" and you are just pissed the world has passed you by. You spit out your hatred at will. Just like your life, a big pile of bull shit. Don't lie to me boy, I know you are a miserable, lonely individual. It's all in your post and you are one of the most ingnorant posters on this board. You call anyone that disagrees with you a liar when you don't know jack crap about them. But, anyone that questions the existence of God like you can not offend anyone on this earth. I made my way and I am damned glad of where I'm at. That can not be said for you. You are a loser. And now you are threatening to beat someone ass and that they are lucky they are hiding behind a keyboard. You are the coward.

Now get back to your porn or crawl back up in Mike Moore's hairy crack where you belong.

Larry Brock

The Media picks our president, not us.

Jack Murtha is being marched out. I'm sure he write about it at the fluffing post.

Jack "ABSCAM" Murtha
He is not interested in a $50,000 payoff at this time. (Maybe $100,000 will do the trick...lol)

Somehow the moonbats have developed a strategy to come on this site and seemingly make a concerted effort to type countless words debating politics, Bush, war in Iraq, etc.

Seems the focus should remain squarely on - what some can certainly consider - to be the most biased, discredited (sports) "journalist" ever to air reguarily on any of the three (former) major networks ABC, NBC & CBS.

Opie has that distinction. It's shame there is no civil discourse regarding media bias, but I'd like to be at the debate where NBC defends it's credibility. One word is indefensible - Olbermann. If they OK his show - you just have to assume they feel it OK to compromise their intrgity with anything/everythign else.

Please - some respected Journalist professor - spin a defense for credibility/NBC News and Olbermann. You'll be a laughing stock ala Ward Churchill @ Colorado

Hey CC. It's not as many as you think. These chicken shits are using more than one username like blindrat.

"Hey CC. It's not as many as you think. These chicken shits are using more than one username like blindrat."- Brick

It's not the truth, Brick. Cox and Dollar can check our IP. I'm sure they'd be happy to out one of us "chicken shits" if we used more than 1 name.

even if you only use one name here you liberals who post here are all a bunch of chickenshit moonbats.
indierik you presume I was not in the military?? once again you prove how very ignorant you are juts like all the rest of you leftards. Did YOU serve indierik?? I'll just be you did'nt.

And right on cue Kerry starts his back pedaling and flipping! Oh what will Olby do? Kerry yelled and screamed that he would apologize to no one. Well, that just changed this morning. From http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20061101/pl_nm/usa_elections_kerry_dc:

"A day after rejecting calls to apologize for his remarks, Kerry, appearing on the “Imus in the Morning” radio show on MSNBC, declared: “I said it was a botched joke. Of course, I’m sorry about a botched joke.”"

So now he's a little sorry, but as the phone calls come in and his lame excuses poll poorly except among the unhinged, Flipper will backpedal more. Of course, he will leave his apologists (like Olbermann) without any cover and humiliated. I LOVE Jean Francois Kerry, I really do! Keep defending him, Olbermanniacs!

I would vote for Jean Francois if I were you, lefties. Keep him in the public eye. Keep him as your nominee for President. We need more events like this before elections. We need Kerry pushing filibuster plans while visiting France just after his party has determined that a filibuster would be a big loser for them. We need him saying he voted for it before he voted against it. And most of all we need Olbermann to defend Kerry and expose himself in the process.

Brick,

I just read your post. It was enlightening. I think that I can help you out here, son...

Kerry served a tour of combat BEFORE his swiftboat duty, which he volunteered for. His rescue of the Green Beret is well-documented and even the Green Beret disputes the second-hand account of the Smearboat Vets.

As for your psychological evaluation of me, I just have to say that you should keep your day job (if you aren't unemployed). Personally, working for the military for the past fifteen years, I feel that I am doing my part...

Lectures from junior chickenhawks don't phase me much, son...

"indierik you presume I was not in the military??"
Posted by: Anonymous at November 1, 2006 12:41 PM

Yes, I served honorably in the Army. Not that it matters to any of the wingnuts here since you like to discredit veterans (Murtha/Kerry/Kevin Tillman) if they disagree with the current president. I figured out how the wingnuts operate- if you're a veteran you MUST be behind the president 100% if he is a Republican, but it is OK to dissent if he is a Democrat. Real hypocritical.

I can undertand the left's position on many issues, especially the environment. What I'll never understand is the support for NBC's decision to let Olbermann be the voice of the network.

Making decisions - especially on important issues - is all about getting all the facts & information. NBC News has made a carefully crafted decision to provide a primetime news show that absolutley, purposefully and unequivoally(sp?) presents one side of a story - with extremely important facts purposefully excluded. That is horrible journalism - and inexcusable. Anyone that would thrive on, defend and support such biased journalism, well it ain't saying much for your point of view.

I have read this site a bit here and there and I am unimpressed. The writing by this Johnny Dollar seems full of inaccuracies and much name-calling.
Here's a hint: Blog-reporting, if you write it well and seem truthful, then you will be respected. If you seem to be spinning and lying, you will be considered a fraud, a joke, and a liar.

I am equally unimpressed by all the name-calling on this site, primarily from right-wingers. I prefer the reasoned argument and don't name call, so I can't understand why you guys have to do it.

NBC claims Meltdown's a "news show"
That claim is a lie we all know
Propaganda at best
And a host to detest
Not surprising the ratings are low

What if Kerry says he's sorry on Imus and no one hears it....did he really apologize??

xperi --

Thanks but no thanks for the useless post. How about citing a few of the "inaccuracies" in Mr. Dollar's posts? Are you forgetting that people can read the posts and see you are lying?

Kerry did not apologize to the troops on Imus. He said he had left out one word "us", he meant "left us in Iraq".

When does Bush apologize for helping arm the insurgents?

When does Bush apologize for the very long delay in body armor?

When does Bush apologize for sending our troops into battle under false pretenses?

When does Bush apologize for letting Bin Laden go?

The dumb one's the Senator from Mass
He's got his head shoved way up his ass
He blew it in '04
Now he's done it once more
He's reigning dunce of the moonbat class

day 1
our troops are people who sisn't study and make an effort, so "they get stuck in IRAQ"

day 2
i'm not going to apologize for criticizing the president (i did not criticize our heroes-even though it certainly appears that way)

later day 2
(handler) he misspoke he meant to say that if your uneducated and intellectually lazy you end up getting us stuck in a war in IRAQ (apparently I leave out whole segments of statements when I misspeak-I meant that the president is stupid even though he got better grades than me and a higher SAT score, its true because I am a democrat)

day 3
Im sorry I botched a joke (but im not apologizing to the troops im apologizing to the press who have been helping interpret my remarks for 2 days now-even tho yesterday it was not a joke but an attack on our president, but today it is a joke that I botched...also, I am going to cancel my appearancs because its embarrasing that I started to get calls not to come anyway

KO:
President Kerry, whoops, sorry, Senator Kerry, here's a check, can I talk to you and lead you into what I actually wanted you to mean and you can just say that's right keith! then I can show how obvious that the words you spoke should not have been taken any other way than bush is an idiot

Anon --

I believe Democrats are the only ones allowed to directly state something in plain English, get a laugh and a few groans, then claim they meant something entirely different only after having their asses handed to them by their intellectual superiors. All I know is, Olbermann has decided to jump into Kerry's sinking boat, and now he will have a chance to experience Kerry's fine ability to stab his supporters in the back.

Medals . . . . ribbons . . . . troops are dumb . . . . I mean Bush is dumb . . . . voted for it before I voted against it . . . reporting for duty . . .

Olbermann, keep on defending Kerry! I wonder what our witless pamphleteer is scribbling under his desk right now.

Any polls out recently? Has this helped you socialist lefties? No?

They just showed a picture on the news of a group of soldiers in Iraq holding a banner that says

Halp us Jon KaRRy we R stuk een IraK

Kerry's right you don't really need an edumacation if you married rich ugly broads.

kfk, I would but poeple better at it than me have already done that and no one can dispute them or they simply bad-mouth them or call them liars. "useless post" thats funny cause I've never seen you post anything useful usualy just namecalling.
Kinda like how I mentioned I dont enage in namecalling but then you immediately call me a liar.

Money can buy KO's decency and conscience, if he has any, defending someone's insulting our troops.

Kerry shows again and again how out of touch he is with the mainstream. Now the democrats are throwing him under the bus.

I'm sure that "Citizen Keith" will come to his rescue in "special comment" tonight.

O joy, I can't wait.

For all you Right Wingers who seem to have nothing better to do than criticize an opposition pundant saying things you don't want to hear, I cannot understand why you cannot just get on with YOUR life, listen to Rush, listen to Hannity, or whoever you please, and let those of us who really enjoy the Olbermann show do so in peace? If you don't like his slant, DON'T WATCH, & don't LISTEN! What is the problem?

I don't like the slant from Rush, most of Fox News, and even Glenn Beck on CNN, so I don't watch or listen to them most of the time. When I do and then hear things I don't like, I don't rush to their associated smear sites for comfort.

Countdown is an OPINION show, just as is O'Reilly, Beck, Hannity, and several others. I have been searching for any evidence that MSNBC advertises it as a hard news show, and I can't find anything to that effect. If anyone calls this show a hard news show, regardless of who it is, they are simply wrong. If you want the news, you watch the nightly news.

So why can't you just let it go? Do you really believe that every opinion show has to be formatted exactly like every other opinion show?

Yes, Olbermann performs a service to many of us who think America's direction is WAY off track, by attacking the right wing spin in a way that NOBODY else is doing, and he often brings out points and facts that you simply will not hear anywhere else. If, in the process, he often spins things back the other way, so be it!

They just showed a picture on the news of a group of soldiers in Iraq holding a banner that says

Halp us Jon KaRRy we R stuk een IraK

_________________________________

I don't care what side of the aisle you sit on, that's hysterical.

Kurt-
In the final analysis, Kerry's remarks will only effect the base. Those that are already republican who might not have voted may be more likely to come out on Nov 7. I don't see how it will effect the Democrats at all unless a few fence sitters might not turn out due to feeling"oh no here we go again..." The Dem base will probably not be effected at all and swing voters...who knows, there are still 7 days before they climb into the booth!

Mike, a couple of points

first of all, the whole purpose of this site (which seems to get brought up evry 3rd day when one of you guys asks this) is that they are pointing things out that show that Countdown is in fact an OPINION show, BUT, MSNBC DOES purport it to be a NEWS show! and KO claims to be apolitical and non partisan, BUT ITS OBVIOUS HE ISN'T (many of your fellow dem posters refer to him a a newscaster, even the Murrow , god help me, references point towards a newscater)

next, if you don't like what the posters here say about KO and his show...to paraphrase you...don't come here, don't read, don't post, what is your problem?

finally, and I know from other posters that I am not alone here, I do not watch Oreilly, listen to Rush, and search for Glen Beck...so don't assume we all fax our fax machines and emails and radios tuned to bring in Karl Rove's highly encrypted broadcast and then go out and spread the wrod according to Rove

*** special comment ***

Then, suddenly - less than one week before election - defeat! Shameful, ignominious - defeat that set back for twenty years the cause of reform in the U.S., forever cancelled political chances for "Citizen Keith".

Then, in the third year of the Great Depression... As to all news personalities, it sometimes must - to Donahue, to Abrams and A-mess-NBC it did - a network closes! For Olby, in four short years: collapse! Eleven Olby special comments, merged, more sold, scrapped - Then four long years more - alone in his never-finished, already decaying, pleasure palace, aloof, seldom visited, never photographed, Citizen Keith continued to direct his falling empire ... vainly attempting to sway, as he once did, the destinies of a nation that has ceased to listen to him ... ceased to trust him...

pardon the errors above, tried to finish typing as quickly as possible before running to get a crying baby that just woke up

pardon the errors above, tried to finish typing as quickly as possible before running to get a crying baby that just woke up

Mike wrote:

"For all you Right Wingers who seem to have nothing better to do than criticize an opposition pundant saying things you don't want to hear, I cannot understand why you cannot just get on with YOUR life, listen to Rush, listen to Hannity, or whoever you please, and let those of us who really enjoy the Olbermann show do so in peace? If you don't like his slant, DON'T WATCH, & don't LISTEN! What is the problem?"

Ummmm . . . Mikey, did someone force you to come to this site? Was your browser commandeered by Olbermannwatch? If so, then you have a point. If not, then you seem to be the one bothering US.

As for the crackpots who think this latest Kerry gaffe is good for Democrats, I tend to agree. You see, Democrats love to seethe and whine, and they are miserable failures when in power. The best thing for them is to lose and Kerry is facilitating the process, so indeed he is "good for Democrats." Just think, Olbermann feeds on the anger of the loony left, so what would he do if he had to report on his lefty pals for once? Remember when he reported on Clinton, had a nervous breakdown and quit his job?

Xperi,

How about you try to respond to one fact in Dollar's post that you find incorrect? You called him a liar, by the way. Isn't that name calling in your bizarre world? Just point out the "inaccuracies" champ, and you will have beaten me at my own game.

To The Monarch:

I many ways, you are right...thats hysterical. In other ways you are wrong because the stakes are so high, and there are still many fickle voters out their who still don't really know what to believe, and just might be swayed by something comepletely beside the point like this.

I love Democracy but the sad part about our system of government is that many important elections are decided by "swing" voters who are often the least well informed and the most ambivilant. This is why spin and negative campaigning works.

NO Kfky, I didn't have to come here and I probably won't be wasting a lot of time here. That wasn't the point at all. The point was why can't you guys just live and let live????

If I were a pundant, I would probably feel like a failure if I didn't have a site dedicated to knocking me, so I doubt if you are hurting Olby at all.

I agree with you Mike this time. Media does play a big role to our decision. That is where we get the news.

"Keith Olbermann is the right person at the right time, and doing it in the right way," Dan Abrams says. He adds: "This is a really good sign for MSNBC on the whole. I think that we've found a voice to some degree. We still have a ways to go. One month does not make ratings success, but this is certainly the right direction."

Like Dan Abrams ever work a real day in his life? Check his pedigree and his connections.

Kerry

Thank God for the Liberal arts media
Who deciphered what I said in Pasadenia
I didn't mean what I said
It's a ketchup thing, with Heinze I only see red
Cheney, Bush & Rummy - it's really the fault of the three of ya

Ya know I was almost mortally wounded in Nam
Surrounded on all side by napalm
My boat took on fire
Despite what the Swifties said - those liars
I still remember Chrtismas in Cambodia - singing by the fire those Psalms

The doc said as a result of my injuries
I'll always say things I don't mean, he feared for me
So when I said our troops weren't so bright, Only Opie knew what was right
Why? the clunk on his head in the subway is my theory

Me and Opie are pals to the bone
Everything is Bush's fault, on and on we drone
For in my mind I'm really the President,
I'm suceeding Al Gore who set the precident
I just don't know, my appearances cancelled, why all my pals sent me home.

maddog keith

Mike:

We are attacking a messenger here. He is paid to do all this crap. Besides, this is the only way he can beat his conservative buddy at Fox. Republican is watching him every step. I am wondering what his rating will be after the election especially when the Dems are still not gaining ground.

Do you remember the 2004 after-election investigation. He was paid and encouraged by the Dems to do it until he got an email from Kerry's lawyer to tell him to stop.

Patrick, thanks for posting Victor Davis Hanson's commentary.

The only thing I would like to add is kerry throwing his Vietnam war medals over the White House fence back in the seventies. No, he threw someone elses medals. N, he threw his ribbons to the medals.

Oh hell, he threw something over the White House fence. I remember now, he threw what little honor he had left after lying under oath in the congressional hearings.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

"Mike" said:

"NO Kfky, I didn't have to come here and I probably won't be wasting a lot of time here. That wasn't the point at all."

Sorry I misunderstood you, Mike. You stated, "let those of us who really enjoy the Olbermann show do so in peace." I assumed that meant you were bothered by this site because it imposed itself on you and kept you from enjoying your show in peace. You know, maybe you and Jean Francois Kerry have the same problem, where you one thing but really mean something else. Perhaps you and Kerry have the same disorder? Just fill us in on what you really mean some time in the next decade.

Mike, you also stated:

"nothing better to do than criticize an opposition pundant"

and

"If I were a pundant"

Mike, did you mean pundit?

Suggestions:

- Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
- Search the Web for documents that contain "pundant"

To Mike:

Your comments don't make sense to me...I'm right, but I'm wrong.

Soliders in Iraq can make light of Kerry's (mis)statement. Funny how in wartime they have a better sense of humor than most of us.

And funny that when they deliver their punchline, they don't botch it like Kerry claims he did.

KfK;

No, I mean't exactly what I wrote! I was trying to be a little more tactfull and less condescending than you know apparently how to be. So how does GET A LIFE sound?

I really was trying to get an honest answer about WHY you people are so obsessed with a "pundit" you happen to dislike, but I guess that is just too much to hope for.

Do you really get a kick out of pointing out a spelling error? Does that make you feel superior in some way? Are you so sophisticated and educated that you never make a spelling error?

To Mike:

Your comments don't make sense to me...I'm right, but I'm wrong.

Soliders in Iraq can make light of Kerry's (mis)statement. Funny how in wartime they have a better sense of humor than most of us.

And funny that when they deliver their punchline, they don't botch it like Kerry claims he did.

To Monarch:

What doesn't make sense? This whole thing would be very funny if it were not timed in order to possibly influence an important election.

Believe me, I am not defending Kerry. I wish he had had the sense to keep his nose out of this election.

You called him a liar, by the way.

I'm sorry. Where did I call him a liar?
Wouldn't that be a lie to say I called him a liar?

Mike:

We are attacking KO for he has a very annoying behavior. He thinks he is the mmartest, graduated from Cornell. You have to agree of what he says, he would let you know that he does not like you and bash on you. He bash on someone on something and he turns around and do the same somehting.

Wait a minute, I am sure there are lots out there smarter than him, if he does not like to hear this, then I am sorry.

Mike spewed: "Countdown is an OPINION show, just as is O'Reilly, Beck, Hannity, and several others. I have been searching for any evidence that MSNBC advertises it as a hard news show, and I can't find anything to that effect. If anyone calls this show a hard news show, regardless of who it is, they are simply wrong."

Keith Olbermann has stated on-air that MSNBC's Countdown "is the news show of record." Yes, that's a direct quote.

Mike Kerry wrote:

"No, I mean't exactly what I wrote!"

OK! So you meant it before you didn't mean it, and now you mean it again, right? So I ask how did this website prevent you from "enjoy[ing] the Olbermann show in peace"?

I understand that you love Olbermann. Since that is the case, I encourage you to go watch him and leave us to our own devices.

Allow me to tell you why you are cruising this site, since you seem unable to understand your own actions. You love Olbermann and do not want anyone discussing his faults. If we go away, you don't have to confront the truth about Olby's show. You can defend your hero with the full might of your single cylinder engine. Asking everyone else to ignore the lies of your hero is not a smart strategy and wastes our time.

To "Dan Abrams": Thats fine, I'll take your word for that. Rush, and others claim to deliver the "truth" as well. He can call his show whatever he wants. That doesn't mean I have to agree with what he calls his show in order to like watching it. I am pretty sure that close to 100% of his audience has already heard the news and are just getting his perpective on it.

By the way, do those that you disagree with "spew", and those you agree with "make a point"?

To Anonymous: I have no idea what you were trying to say.

Barf Bag Alert...Special Comment tonight.

To RjR;

You are pretty good at twisting the words of people you disagree with. Why don't you start your own show?

Olbermann is not my "hero", but he does present a perspective no one else in the media has the stones to do.

I will answer you question after you answer mine, which you haven't done yet. Why are you so damned obsessed with "exposing" his so called "lies"?

The real irony behind Kerry's remarks is that they are true. Our military is largely populated by lower middle and lower income kids who, for whatever reason, were not working towards going into college, but want training and the possibility of attending college in the future.

God bless them. This doesn't mean they aren't highly intelligent and frankly, I think our military is better off with kids of this background.

Instead of lying that he said what he said...about their seeking to be able to navigate the educational system in order to get "comfortable jobs", why couldn't Kerry have used the fracas to speak up for more benefits for these men and women? Why couldn't he highlight that they deserve more pay and incentives?

Instead he tries to backtrack as usual and for stating the truth at that.

HE's TOO dumb to be president...

He's got stones...I'll give you that.
certifiable stones.

can't wait till election night.
Citizen Keith will need to be talked down off the ledge.

"To Anonymous: I have no idea what you were trying to say."- Mike

I just read anon's comments and I almost spit out the coffee I was sippin from laughing so hard.

"where you one thing but really mean something else"

followed by

"Suggestions:

- Make sure all words are spelled correctly.
- Search the Web for documents that contain "pundant" "

How 'bout you actually finish your sentences before jumping to criticize others (I know I'm not prefect). And things such as use single quote marks not double when quoting a single word. I read that here from 'radmod' whose name I used to see what would happen. Sure enough, kfk refused to reply when I did that. HA!

Cecelia, you might get a different perspective on what you wrote. I've been mainly flitting around the internet today and found some eye opening statistic re the educational, racial and socio-economic status of our volunteer military.

You might check little green footballs, Michele Malkin and Newsbusters. If you want to see more these sites all have some great links. In fact, our military is over representd in relation to population statistics in all the above categories. I was impressed. Just one fact I learned is that American Indians are and have been over represented through the 20th and 21st centuries. This is attributed to their culture, which honors warriors.

Please give it a try.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

-- Sen. John Kerry issues a statement saying: "I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended" by comments he made about being "stuck in Iraq."

**********

How about the Vietnam Vets while your at it?

Did Kerry apologize before he said he wasn't going to apologize - or after he said he wasn't going to apologize

Only Opie can clear this up

"Barf Bag Alert...Special Comment tonight."

I can't wait. Once again the cowards who sent America's finest into battle "without doing their homework" are going to be slammed by a true American Hero (with a capital H), Keith Olbermann!

The chicken hawks squawk the loudest when ever a decorated veteran is upon them for their callousness about the American dead in a failed campaign they've implemented. Kerry wore the uniform in battle under fire and therefore has a leg to stand on, which is more than can be said about the group of cowards that try to cut him down for being so bold as to take a stand on behalf of our troops. Kerry was right, Bush didn't do his homework and we ended up with a huge mess in Iraq!

Bush slashes the budget to give tax breaks to his billionaire buddies (Bush: "Some people call you the elite, I call you my base") and then under Rumsfeld's advice sends America's finest into battle on the cheap.

I look forward to Keith tearing the cowards a new one tonight for the despicable desperate actions of a failing political machine that jumps at any opportunity to put distance between the critical words of a war hero and their chicken hawk coward asses by exploiting the absence of the word "us" in John Kerry's comments about Bush not doing his homework on Iraq. Kerry is only guilty of being too serious a leader and not good at telling jokes. Bush and the Rove crime machine are guilty of the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi men, woman, and children, not to mention several thousand of America's finest in a war for the control of a sovereign nation's only natural resource - OIL! (Exon BP and Shell love the Republicans and it easy to see why)

Only cowards would live in denial about how much more unsafe the world is today because of a man and a political party that didn't work hard in school and do their homework and then went into Iraq and created the worst of all possible situations. The hatred that Bush has created around the world for Americans is made worse by the pussy cowards that foolishly defend the indefensible. Cowards!

This site is great, even though it is nothing more than a parasitic free ride on the coat tails of a great orator, it does bring many more people to listen to a great man and a true American Hero! Keep up the good work!

I have a very simple reason for why I believe kerry meant to disparage our military and their families.

I was told for months on end in no uncertain terms by kerry himself, the MSM, and every democrat with a soapbox that kerry was the second smartest (Hilary is the smartest) person in the world. That kerry is so articulate. That kerry is so suave and sophiticated. And it was repeated ten times a day and twice on Sunday.

I was not told, however, that he was an honest man. In fact, he himself admitted that his sworn oath before a congressional hearing was a lie. He really wasn't a War Criminal. A little poetic license from the smartest man in the world is justified when speaking truth to power.

I take him at his word. The 'joke' was intended as an insult to the military and their families and his denial is a lie.

Janet Hawkins
Grammie

they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

Jack Nich "You want the truth, you can't handle the truth

Abrams - you want the truth, we can't handle the truth

Gen. Nathan Jessup for President !

Janet,

I will. Thank you.

"they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country."

Buuuuttt - no mention of waterboarding

I am a veteran and come from a family full of war veterans....and these days, I am also a Democrat!

Tell me, someone, ANYONE; WHY are most of the neocons, who have been so callous about starting and defending something as serious as a war, not even vets themselves? I've heard this question asked many times, but I've never heard an adequate answer from the neocons themselves.

How can it be that the ones who love to scream how "Patriotic" they are the most have often not even served themselves????

"I take him at his word. The 'joke' was intended as an insult to the military and their families and his denial is a lie.

Janet Hawkins
Grammie "

"Grammie" clearly a label designed to appear disarming. But in reality who you are is and will remain an unknown as is the same for me. I have a handful of grandchildren yet I have no need to make that relevant for general purposes as you do wearing it on your sleeve as though you are short on other things of relevence. Each time I see your title I always think of the Gahan Wilson comic of Trick or Treater's smiling up at a monster hiding behind a grandmother costume as she reaches out to drop candy into their bag.

But now I have to rethink my assumption about your title, this last commentary clarifies that indeed you probably are a draw back to the simple minded of old, an old woman with little or no experience in being able to articulate a perspective or opinion unless it is pieced together from the opinions of a backwater husband from a time long past. Nothing you've written reflects that you are up on the biased news our corporate owned media spoon feeds us. Nothing insightful and nothing but simple minded denial about honesty. Certainly nothing brave, just another bone to through to peanut gallery you feel welcome in.

John Kerry - American Hero, decorated war veteran who knows what it means to wear the uniform under-fire. George Bush, Dick Cheney, Carl Rove, Rush Limpbaugh? Chicken hawks who have no clue what it means to put their life on the line for their country.

Hey, sometimes the truth hurts - live with it. Keith will send it all home big time tonight and I can't wait.

You picked yourself quite a spokesperson in Opie
> Fired after 6 months in Boston as a sportcaster
> Sportcaster contract not renewed twice in LA
> a failure on Fox sports
> 12 different jobs in 23 years
> Suspeneded at Espn - Left, burned all bridges

Quite the role model. See Mr Cox's Opie speak. Ain't notin this guy's bringin home to my house

Truth may well indeed hurt - just never heard it yet on Opie's show. Maybe tonight he will finally acknowlege "my career has been a miserable failure and I, like Jean Keer e" do too apologize.

Hey CC:

Sounds like Olby's resume' reads a lot like
Mr. Bush's did before he became the "Decider".

"Tell me, someone, ANYONE; WHY are most of the neocons, who have been so callous about starting and defending something as serious as a war, not even vets themselves?"- Mike

Mike, I've tried getting an answer from this crowd as I have from other Neocon sites. They don't have an answer, never did. They're all about advancing their agenda in a way that will cost them nothing.

Oh CC:

So your defintion of a career that is a "miserable failure" would be a Nationally televised 1 hour Cable show in prime time that clearly allows him much leeway to voice his own opinions. Oh yeah, with above average ratings that are on the increase.

Duh! Where can I go to "fail" like that?

He's got stones...I'll give you that.
certifiable stones.

can't wait till election night.
Citizen Keith will need to be talked down off the ledge.

Posted by: Little Feechie at November 1, 2006 03:48 PM

Oh please! You've been watching way too much Faux News. Come election night you and the rest of the pin heads will go into hiding out of pure humiliation that the party of Chicken Hawk Republicans have been booted out on their cowards asses. Then and only then will we be able to once and for all give Rumsfeld the boot and put a person in charge that isn't part of Cheney's mixed bag of tricks from the Project for a New American Century, a group whose primary goal always was to invade and divide Iraq so as to squeeze the most amount of oil from the nation on Exxon and the like's terms. Shit if you are going to be all for investing billions of our hard earned tax dollars into taking over an oil rich nations reserves at least you should be for having someone doing it that understands military strategy instead of pin heads that boot generals for speaking their minds. Bush can't even speak the english language without looking like an ass and he is the man that you call your leader. Not me.

Pin heads

"Sounds like Olby's resume' reads a lot like
Mr. Bush's did before he became the "Decider"."

Uhh... Who gives a rat's ass about KO's resume'? He is face in the crowd. Bush is a brain dead fool that can't even speak the english language. Drug addict and alcoholic who went AWOL and ran every business his daddies friends tossed his way right into the ground just like he has done to our nation. Hundreds of more muslims have an even greater desire to kill Americans now that Bush and Co. have slaughtered more than a hundred thousand innocent men, woman and children in Iraq.

Your comment demonstrates a pin head coward mentality that smacks of lacking stones of any-kind - you're a pussy!

To amonoumous above:

And you are such an idiot that you did not even understand my post. I was answering a post above questioning Olby's "failed" resume'. I hate to even admit that I'm on your side as far as Bush and the war because you clearly are not capable of reading and understanding a sarcastic post.

On the other hand, I have a feeling this "Anonymous" post was probably done by anti-Olby people just to try to make it look like his defenders are stupid.

Why don't you stop hiding behind "anonymous"?

"Bush can't even speak the english language without looking like an ass and he is the man that you call your leader. Not me.

Pin heads"

IRONY ALERT! :D

"Tell me, someone, ANYONE; WHY are most of the neocons, who have been so callous about starting and defending something as serious as a war, not even vets themselves?"- Mike

and yet the majority of servicemen list themselves as republican...

and war hero BJ Clinton sent troops to the balkans , somalia, ...

I will answer you question after you answer mine, which you haven't done yet. Why are you so damned obsessed with "exposing" his so called "lies"?

Posted by: Mike at November 1, 2006 03:46 PM

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aren't you paying attention Mike?:
Mike, a couple of points

first of all, the whole purpose of this site (which seems to get brought up evry 3rd day when one of you guys asks this) is that they are pointing things out that show that Countdown is in fact an OPINION show, BUT, MSNBC DOES purport it to be a NEWS show! and KO claims to be apolitical and non partisan, BUT ITS OBVIOUS HE ISN'T (many of your fellow dem posters refer to him a a newscaster, even the Murrow , god help me, references point towards a newscater)

next, if you don't like what the posters here say about KO and his show...to paraphrase you...don't come here, don't read, don't post, what is your problem?

finally, and I know from other posters that I am not alone here, I do not watch Oreilly, listen to Rush, and search for Glen Beck...so don't assume we all fax our fax machines and emails and radios tuned to bring in Karl Rove's highly encrypted broadcast and then go out and spread the wrod according to Rove

Posted by: Connor at November 1, 2006 02:13 PM

whoops...Posted by: Anonymous at November 1, 2006 06:49 PM...was me

Richard:

I don't have any way of knowing whether what you are saying is true or not - BUT - When I was a 19 - 23 year old serviceman, I called myself a Republican and believed most of what I was being fed as well. I got older, and I got smarter, just like many, if not most older veterans.

Somalia and the Balkins were PEACEKEEPING missions, not invasions. A big difference.

Conner:

So you are obsessed simply because a show has been mislabeled?

By the way, I just heard "liberal" MSNBC's lead in on the Kerry Story. It stated that Kerry has "apologized for what he said about the troops".

Wait just a minute! The debate was whether or not he was referring to the troops, or to Bush. For MSNBC's news department to make the assumption that it was the troops he was referring to doesn't sound so 'liberal' to me.

True to form, Kerry has issued a lame half-apology for his "misinterpreted" words. Will Olby retract his vigorous defense and report on Kerry's apology on Countdown? Or will he claim dirty Republicans have "misconstrued" brave Kerry's words and forced him to apologize when he didn't have too? Hmmmmmm . . . . her is the text of his apology in case Olby forgets to read it:

"I sincerely regret that my words were misinterpreted to wrongly imply anything negative about those in uniform, and I personally apologize to any service member, family member, or American who was offended."

I "sincerely" doubt Kerry means one word of that.

As for this lovely sentence by "Mike":

"Somalia and the Balkins [sic] were PEACEKEEPING missions, not invasions."

Define a "peacekeeping mission" there champ. Does "peacekeeping" include hunting down Somali warlords, 'cause that is the "mission creep" that BJ Bill allowed. Here is a link that I doubt you will read, from nice 'n liberal PBS no less:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/ambush/etc/cron.html

And a quote:

"UN takeover; "nation building" (UNOSOM II)
In March, the UN authorizes UNOSOM II, a UN operation with expanded enforcement power, whose mandate stressed "the crucial importance of disarmament" of the Somali people. This UN-led mission was to take over from the US-led UNITAF. The expanded operation's new mission goes beyond simply providing humanitarian relief, calling for the UN to facilitate "nation building," to get Somalia back on its feet by restoring law and order, shoring up the infrastructure, and helping to set up processes for establishing a representative government. By the end of March, 28 different nations send contingents to Somalia in support of the new militarized operation. The US officially hands over the command to the UN on May 4."

Hmmmm . . . . "Nation building" . . . . where have I heard that before?

To whoever calls himself 'coward watch' my, my aren't we the gentleman? And also a psychic and psychiatrist, able to see into the souls and minds of the dead and women you only 'know' through a few posts. And judging by the self adulating name 'coward watch' you appear to me to be a poster child for hubris.

I refer you to the site on little green footballs "A MESSAGE TO JOHN KERRY FROM IRAQ. Eight US soldiera standing in a line behind a banner that reads:

. HELP US JON CARRY
. WE R STUCK HEAR N IRAK

The fifth soldier from the left appears to be a woman.

I would be so grateful to hear your anaysis of the woman in light of your analysis of me and the men in light of the analysis of my husband. I will remind you what you said:

"you probably are a draw back to the simple minded of old, an old woman with little or no experience in being able to articulate a perspective or opinion unless it is pieced together from the opinions of a backwater husband from a time long past."

Could you please enlighten me about the men and woman in the photo based on the following that you said that was not gender specific:

"Nothing insightful and nothing but simple minded denial about honesty. Certainly nothing brave, just another bone to through to peanut gallery you feel welcome in."

I am always humbled and honored when a man of such superior intellect and morality deigns to take notice of me. Did I mention that I am a widow? Would you consider being my svengali?

You made me see with blinding clarity that without guidance my political opinions have gone from merely backwater to, oh I'm so ashamed, disagreeing with the GREAT ALLMIGHTY KEITH and the EVEN GREATER COWARD. So sorry, I meant COWARD watch.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

PS You have my name. It is so BRAVE of you to hide behind a pseodonmyn.

Hmmmm . . . . "Nation building" . . . . where have I heard that before?

Posted by: KfK at November 1, 2006 07:58 PM

Probably from George W. Bush: "I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation building."

Too bad he flip-flopped on that too.

radmod, obviously you and I must disagree on whether FDR was one of the greatest presidents we ever had.

I revere him for his role in WW II. Of course he made a very public flip flop.

He ran as the man who would keep out us out of the Eupopean War. Of course he was already covertly and sometimes illegally helping the allies. And after Pearl Harbor, he went to the congress for a declaration of war against the Japanese while fires were still burning.

I don't compare GWB to FDR. History will be the judge of that. But both men woke up in a world that had seminally changed for them and for our country literally overnight. And, thankfully, both reversed themselves.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie