Why not? I'd like to know what it's all about.

Goody. I love gossip. Go for it.

YES! Another woman in DC just came forward last week on karmabites1 blog...when she found out via KO's radio show that he's shacking up with a 22 year old, and the DC woman thought SHE was his girlfrien. NOW, you can't get on Karma's blog!

I cant believe Yahoo linked to this site?

Oh nooooo...I'm getting a visual! Please stop!

Robert: By bringing it up in the first place, I think you've answered your own question.

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Olby took tonight off. Between this and the collapse of his beloved Yankees, he probably doesn't feel like working.

For people who despise Keith..you spend alot of time and resources on him...he must be a threat

Jim,

KO is entertainment. I never mention his name nor watch his show. But I do watch his rants on his website. I find him immature, and find it ammusing that big network executives would actually hire this guy and let him do what he does on air. His show calls into question everything that MSNBC does.

I believe Olby will launch into a "Special Comment" again attacking News Corp (Parent of NYPost) and claiming this is an orchestrated hit on him by Rupert Murdoch, Roger Ailes, The White House, etc., for speaking "truth to power".

So you feel it is appropriate to run unverified gossip in your blog?

You are no better than what you accuse him of.

I say no. Leave the reporting of gossip and the unsubstantiated to KO. It's his specialty.

Reality Bites,

I did my searching and I actually agree with you. It is unverified gossip. Maybe it's best to be left alone at this site, and ran on the gossip sites, or maybe KO can investigate it. How do I change my vote?

Reality,

No. I do not feel that it is appropriate to run unverified gossip on my blog. That is why, when she first approached me about breaking her story on this site (we would be THE natural choice, right?) I told her that unless we met and I could verify her story that I would not be willing to run with it. And when she ultimately went public with emails to the New York Daily News and then her own blog I did not post about it. When it came up in the comments section I said that the story only had merit if there was some violation of MSNBC or GE policy regarding the use of his company computer or sexual harrasment or whatever.

The difference is that now bloggers and others are reacting to the NY Post story so it is no longer a matter of publishing gossip but reporting the Post story and blogger reax to it.

Bottom line, I have held off linking the site, posting about it or otherwise fanning the flames on this story but now the story has gotten legs on its own. So, what to do about that?

My vote was no...but qualified.....If Mr. Olbermann goes into a rant is response to the reports then it seems like fair game......especially if hew uses the conspiracy defense with regards to Ailes, Fox, NY POST, etc....

It would be fair game because of Olbermann's and his ilk's commentary on the sexual misconduct of the likes of O'Reilly. The documentation of hypocrisy is a vital aspect of OLBERMANNWATCH, IMO.

Karmabites sounds like a self-loathing Olbyhater so enamored and obsessed with Keith that she couldn't handle his rejection. Does she work for Olbermannwatch.com? If not, you should hire her now- she'd probably write some pretty scathing posts about him.

Seriously though, I don't really care if you folks cover it or not, but it doesn't really seem newsworthy to me unless she was claiming wrongdoing- sexual harrassment a la BOR or something of that sort.

Ms. Karmabites should be covered only if she allows an interview with J$ and gives us material (e-mail) corroborating her story. After all, the integrity of Olbywatch needs to be protected.

We are all VERY aware of the very hypocritical double-standard in racism policies throughout Australia/America/Europe. So I decided to enforce this a little more simplistically.

The liberal definition of "racism" is: "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races."
However, the liberal definitions of these following nouns will confuse you as to why they differ from "racism":

"Feminism": "the doctrine advocating social, political, and all other rights of women equal to those of men."
"Journalism": "the occupation of reporting, writing, editing, photographing, or broadcasting news or of conducting any news organization as a business."
"Materialism": "preoccupation with or emphasis on material objects, comforts, and considerations, with a disinterest in or rejection of spiritual, intellectual, or cultural values."

The general reason these terms differ from "racism" is not because they are "innocent" or "objective." The reason they are different is because their definitions are based upon the word, not the suffix; "Feminism" is the act of bringing equality upon FEMALES...Not bigoted at all, right? (even though it is cited by bigotry). "Journalism" is the practise of writing media journals/reports for broadcasting; "Materialism" is basing moral/subject principles upon material objects (fashion-wear, jewellery).

The terms prior to this are descriptions used to describe the practise and/or occupation regarding the object of the word, not the suffix (feminists: feminine).

The only different one, along with a few others that are childishly used as terms of bigotry, is "Racism." As opposed to "racism" describing the practise one does to endorse/promote/protect one's own race, it describes a "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races." Why? Racism is, quite simply, the act of promoting one's own race, and rejecting moral/fatal threats to that certain race.

Anonymous wrote "It would be fair game because of Olbermann's and his ilk's commentary on the sexual misconduct of the likes of O'Reilly. The documentation of hypocrisy is a vital aspect of OLBERMANNWATCH, IMO."

I only read the Post's brief article about it- what is the alleged "sexual misconduct" here?

I'm hoping this is the place for this thread. If it gets moved that's fine, as long as i can find it to answer respondents.

This is my first real participation in this community. I experienced ALOT of trouble getting logged in and i've noticed that if there is one place that is REALLY ostracised it's anywhere that white folks wanna congregate to discuss white issues. Good and bad, right and wrong, love and hate, it's as if certain segments of this world don't want to allow us separate space. Freedom of speech is nowhere as denigrated as it is for white people talking white talk. Of any type. And i find that VERY SUSPECT when it's an obvious biological fact that birds of a feather flock together. It means that certain segments desire our destruction. And seeing as how i was born white, i've got to protest that.

My question is fairly simple. How many here have no interest in questions of white superiority [real or not], nationalism, racism, bigotry or any of that but just want to be able to live their lives and appreciate their race as it appears most other races in this country are allowed to do?

Every kind of pride is accepted except white pride. How many find that UNACCEPTABLE but will allow the other races their space as long as it isn't encroaching on our white right to be here also?

If they allow us the right to be us can you live with them in this world also?

Feel free to elaborate, i did....LOL And thanks. As ya'll get to know me i figure we'll get along.
steve

Sandy:

FWIW, Karma seems like a groupie who was spurned and is now dishing the dirt on KO. She is the ultimate example of the adage about " awoman scorned". I get the feeling she actually is pretty liberal, but has turned on KO after what he did to her. And what's funniest is the volume of hateful posts she gets from Olbyloons. But, unlike Colorado Bob, she usually keeps them posted unless they just cross the line.

I just can't wait to hear the Olbyloon attack on her as a Rovian plot.

The idea that we should have our own ethnic space and the right to live among our own kind is so natural that it is strange to have to defend that position with any arguments at all.

Perhaps as the empire loses legitimacy the idea will gain momentum.

I am no Keith fan. But let me get this straight.......

Hmmm. She 'strikes' up an email relationship. Cuz she admires him, NOT becasue he is a famous guy on TV that she does not actually know from Adam. Then flys herself to NY to meet him a hotel. Where she proceeds to have sex with him withan hour of meeting for the first time. And then she is SHOCKED when he treats her like a tramp. Wow..who could of seen that coming!! Oh and now she says the sex was no good and he was a cad, but she is UPSET when he says he does not want to see her again.

But she WILL blog about it. Because when you have NO self respect or class you may as well let the WHOLE world know.

Read the "New York Post" article about it or go to her blog.

KO does enough stupid stuff on the air to fill this website. We don't need to cover what some jilted woman says about him here.

However, if he starts talking about it on-the-air, that makes it fair game.

The KArabites thing is an example of what happens when the races are allowed to mix.

Read the "New York Post" article about it or go to her blog.

KO does enough stupid stuff on the air to fill this website. We don't need to cover what some jilted woman says about him here.

However, if he starts talking about it on-the-air, that makes it fair game.

Sexual misconduct in the tabloid sense like what O'Reilly was accused of doing....not the legal sense.

Read the "New York Post" article about it or go to her blog.

KO does enough stupid stuff on the air to fill this website. We don't need to cover what some jilted woman says about him here.

However, if he starts talking about it on-the-air, that makes it fair game.

How to solve all racial issues:
1) support your own kind
2) live among your own kind
3) educate your family & friends

Vote with your dollar!

let's continue the story and try to embarass him, after all, if it was O'Reilly involved in a scandal with a 20 something year old, it would be KO's top rated story for 5 straight days(not that anyone is watching his show anyway).

Of course she is a liberal. Who else would be jumping around the country to have annonymous sex with a freak like Olbermann. Just shows what this country is coming to with these liberal sucks running the country.

Get a clue you losers. This chick is white!! I'm not sure if this is better or worse.

Too bad the entire story about Ms. Karma did not come out...not only that she contacted him first...but when he seemed to be losing interest in her, she sent him nude photos. Funny, how that part does not appear anywhere in the story. She can continue being anonymous...but Olbermann is a victim of unproven defamation.

She was a consenting adult. What did she expect...a marriage proposal?

This is tabloid trash. Trash it!

It's a Page Six Story of the NY Post, which makes about as credible as if it were in the National Enquirer.

It's rumor and innuendo and should be treated as such. Leave it alone.

People people it is not against the law to be a lousy lover or a premature ejaculator.

K.O. = P. E. ( premature ejaculator)

You people are fucking nuts.

And i find that VERY SUSPECT when it's an obvious biological fact that birds of a feather flock together. It means that certain segments desire our destruction. And seeing as how i was born white, i've got to protest that.

My question is fairly simple. How many here have no interest in questions of white superiority [real or not], nationalism, racism, bigotry or any of that but just want to be able to live their lives and appreciate their race as it appears most other races in this country are allowed to do?

Every kind of pride is accepted except white pride. How many find that UNACCEPTABLE but will allow the other races their space as long as it isn't encroaching on our white right to be here also?
Posted by: Steve at October 9, 2006 01:11 PM

As a white person who has no shame of being one, I have to say that I also notice that you can't show pride in your race if your white without offending someone. However, the illiusion of "white pride" or unity is exposed as soon as you realise that there are many other factors other thatn race which seperate or unite us. My religion, politics, economic status, ethnic background all mater. Did the white people of this country gladly open their arms to my granparents when they arrived here. No they did not. If you were Slovak or Italian, Polish, German, on and on you were thought of as filthy low lifes. The skin tone of a person is the first thing we see, but I have as much or more in common with darker skinned people than I do with the rich white elite of this country.

In case you are wondering about our little troll:

SDK
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Apparently I am going to need to ban/delete for this person.

Thanks for the tip anonymous. I couldn't find the story anywhere. For those that like gossip...below is the link to the NY Post...it will be interesting to see K.O.'s rebuttal.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092006/gossip/pagesix/pagesix.htm

I rather like that KO has to use Cialis with his 20 some thing liaisons...that just cracks me up.

Hey Robert,

I think you should cross out part of Erie Bob's ip number if you are going to post it. It makes us all scared to post here.

I know you are proving your point that it's the same person, but I assumed I was anonymous here even though I have a screen name.

I used to post just as "Steve" (my actual name), but the multi-poster above has given me a bad name...

I think that G Monster has a point- Robert could have just posted that the troll with multiple postings was from the same ip address, not actually list it openly... however, I guess as long as you don't "abuse" the site, it wouldn't be a problem.

G.

I am not even sure that it IS Erie Bob because I noticed that there are two IP addresses using "Erie Bob" and this new person does not have the same "voice" as the original. I think it may be that this person used "Erie Bob" along with many other fake names.

As for publishing someone's IP address. I see your point but I'd say first then the person in question is engaged in "abuse" and does not deserve any protection. Second, an IP address is not the same thing as a home phone number or some other personal information. Third, I also have another IP address used by Erie Bob and I would like to give him the opportunity to clarify the matter; I would not want to ban him because someone else has used his adopted psuedonym to cause trouble.

"We have made it a point NOT to cover the claims made by "karmabites1" because OlbyWatch confines itself to what Keith says and does on his show"

Yet it has been brought up hasn't it? For example

http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/07/as_ko_goes_choo.html
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/07/as_the_world_tu.html

Isn't it a tad disingenuous to say it hasn't been covered. Especially when you have guys like Johnny Dollar saying that a brief blurb on Faux News is "covering it?"

Especially when you have guys like Johnny Dollar saying that a brief blurb on Faux News is "covering it?"

Sorry. Just read what I wrote.
What I meant was :
Especially when you have guys like Johnny Dollar saying that a brief blurb on Faux News about some event is "covering it?"

Hi Robert,

Sometimes I post on here from my office, and sometimes from home. So having 2 ip addresses should be common. As far as protocol on blogs go, I don't think everyone is up to speed.

I now understand what a troll is. Someone who uses multiple names to get thier point across. But in the early days I never would of known that, and would have been ignorant of the rule.

This may sound like a dumb question, but is there a place where one can go, to read about the ettiquette/rules/laws of posting on a blog site?

radmod,

You sort of have a point.

I think if you will re-read what I said you will not find me saying that "it hasn't been covered" so NO, it is not disingenuous to write what I wrote about.

What I wrote was "We have made it a point NOT to cover the claims made by "karmabites1" because OlbyWatch confines itself to what Keith says and does on his show, in the news and otherwise in public"

I also noted that when it comes up I try to focus the attention on matters of MSNBC/GE policy not KO's personal life. That would clearly imply that karmabites HAS been mentioned on the site but that I do not want to be dwelling on KO's personal life (alleged or otherwise).

I am glad you provided thhat second link because I need to edit that post to reflect that it was a GUEST POST from Brandon. Since that post has my name on it (in error) I can understand why you came to your conclusion. If you look at the post you will see that the main point of it was to report on a public OlbyLoon feud that we found amusing. The CLAIMS of karmabites are referenced briefly but are not the subject of the post.

That said, I was offered the story first (repeatedly) and took a pass unless the woman could back up her claims and that there was legitimate policy issue involved. I get a steady stream of emails from readers telling about some latest tidbit from her site and I ignore them. People have brought up in the comments and I tend to pour water on those comments.

You are free to believe what you want but I trust you will agree that if Olbermann Watch had really wanted to flood the zone on this story we could of done so. We have largely ignored it and I think we should have done. The question that I (and others like Becky at Relevant Torture and spud at ICN) am struggling with is whether or not to take up the story now that there is a legitimate news angle here - that Murdoch and Ailes appear to be using the NY Post to slime Olbermann. Fair or unfair, it is NEWS when two rival networks engage in this kind of thing.

To those comparing this to O'Rielly, talking about hypocrisy, etc:

I don't understand the comparison. O'Rielly was accused of sexual harrassment by a coworker and it is my understanding he settled the matter though he admitted no guilt.

This case with Olbermann, at least in what I have read so far, does not contain anything about sexual harrassment charges or wrongdoing, it is merely about a woman upset because Keith ended his relationship with her. The only issue I could see would be for moralists who would be upset that Keith is having sex out of wedlock. I don't think Keith ever attacked O'Rielly for this as O'Rielly was not accused of doing this. So where's the hypocrisy? Is it moral hypocrisy in the sense that Keith is doing something you might consider immoral, while critical of others on his show for immoral acts? If that's the case, then most all of us would need to stop posting critiques of anybody, as I doubt any one on here has not had a moral lapse in their lifetime.

Robert wrote "...struggling with is whether or not to take up the story now that there is a legitimate news angle here"

What is your struggle? I really dont see the difference if you run it or not. If you are concerned about the site being labelled as a site that will do anything to make Keith look bad rather than a site that is focused on clarifying/correcting reports and statements from Keith, I would not run the story then since it does not seem to exist for any purpose, other than to make Keith look bad.

The woman accused him of being "a dud in bed." In KO's defense, at his age, what was she expecting.

Sandy,

Sexual misconduct, sexual harrassment, sexual perversion, sexual immorality....I have never seen someone dance on a head of a pin so nicely. Simple question.....Would you like to have your daughter treated in such a manner by someone like the sensitive Mr. Olbermann?

O'Reilly is a pig too IMO, people should treat others with respect, and themselves too....Marriage, vows and keeping same vows is a nice way to show respect to someone you "love," but I am kinda old fashioned.

Ech.

"We have made it a point NOT to cover the claims made ..."

That would be true (Like you need ME to agree with you).

Long time listener, first time caller.

I'd say that this is completely unrelated to Olbermann Watch, except for one thing. This is the man with the self-proclaimed "Moral Force," who constantly mocks the failings of others. While it is indeed gossip-mongering, the KarmaBites1 story - if true - is proof of Olbermann's continued hypocrisy.

For that reason only, I voted yes.

Cee wrote: "Sexual misconduct, sexual harrassment, sexual perversion, sexual immorality....I have never seen someone dance on a head of a pin so nicely. Simple question.....Would you like to have your daughter treated in such a manner by someone like the sensitive Mr. Olbermann?"

I am not dancing on anything. In my opinion there is a HUGE difference between someone sexually harrassing someone else who does not wish to be party to it and someone engaging in a mutual relationship with someone else and then deciding to end said relationship. For starters, one is against the law and the other is not. What is your point- that Keith was supposed to have married her because they slept together?

I don't have a daughter, and if I did I hope she would not go into a hotel room with a man hardly knowing him. But if she did, that would be her decision, and his, a willing agreement between them which he decided to end, even though she apparently did not want it to end. Have you ever ended a relationship with someone of the opposite sex before? These things happen. Rejection isn't fun, but it is a part of life. It's very different making unwanted sexual advances on another human being, especially someone who works under you. I am not saying BOR did this, but that is what he was accused of doing and folks here have compared the two alleged situations when they have nothing in common except the question of morality (sex out of wedlock).

KO is the best, a patriotic American. The Rethugs are Rethugs only and patriotic Americans not at all.The Rethuglikans support only their party no matter the cost to America. Now America is deeply fractured and divided and you rethugs think that is just great. Once we were all americans and there was a left, a right and a center. But the R's have killed the center so now we have class and political warfare in america and it will only get worse until the Bushies are impeached and put in jail for the rest of their lives for lying to the american people. Also the Rethugs are not Pro-Life at all, they like the Catholic Church and the SBC are really ONLY Pro-Birth. Once the child is born they care not one bit for the life, health and welfare of that child or his family. You Rethugs are really Pro-Death, of our troops and all the Iraqis' and Afghani citizens. None of them deserve to die for the Bush family oil fortunes and those of the oil companies. Had Reagan not cancelled Jimmy Carter's energy laws and initiatives we would not be in this terrible situation. Those of you that support the Bush/ Repub/ nazi neocon/ corporatist/ Catholic and white southern Baptist confederates are worshipping at the wrong altar. Bush, despite his claims to be Jesus Christ is only a petty thug along with his friends Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzales, Powell and Ashcroft.
I say all of the above and I am not even a Dem.
I AM A CATHOLIC AND AN INDEPENDANT SWING VOTER who fears greatly for my beloved America.

KO is the best, a patriotic American. The Rethugs are Rethugs only and patriotic Americans not at all.The Rethuglikans support only their party no matter the cost to America. Now America is deeply fractured and divided and you rethugs think that is just great. Once we were all americans and there was a left, a right and a center. But the R's have killed the center so now we have class and political warfare in america and it will only get worse until the Bushies are impeached and put in jail for the rest of their lives for lying to the american people. Also the Rethugs are not Pro-Life at all, they like the Catholic Church and the SBC are really ONLY Pro-Birth. Once the child is born they care not one bit for the life, health and welfare of that child or his family. You Rethugs are really Pro-Death, of our troops and all the Iraqis' and Afghani citizens. None of them deserve to die for the Bush family oil fortunes and those of the oil companies. Had Reagan not cancelled Jimmy Carter's energy laws and initiatives we would not be in this terrible situation. Those of you that support the Bush/ Repub/ nazi neocon/ corporatist/ Catholic and white southern Baptist confederates are worshipping at the wrong altar. Bush, despite his claims to be Jesus Christ is only a petty thug along with his friends Cheney, Rove, Rumsfeld, Rice, Gonzales, Powell and Ashcroft.
I say all of the above and I am not even a Dem.
I AM A CATHOLIC AND AN INDEPENDANT SWING VOTER who fears greatly for my beloved America.

Krazy Keith's recent career has involve exploiting the personal life of others and now karma (pun intended) has caught up with KO.
Bubble bath's for everyone....

Sandy,

Yes, I have been a party of bad endings to relationships. But, I haven't had shallow sex with a stranger that just flew into town....

The question of morality is a little more important than you give it with reflection in your last sentence. You "hope," your theoretical child would not participate in shallow, meaningless sex? OK....self respect is something I thought was an important to people too.

Lastly, self righteous speech making makes any person vulnerable to people taking issue with their private poor behavior. Mr. Olbermann accusses all sorts people of all sort of "immoral" things like lying, being a coward, racism, sexism, homophoibia...all with an arrogant tone like that of the people he decries.
Sanctimony has been a tactic used in the special comments, you must admit.

Why can't he be as good to those poor girls as he portrays himself in front of the camera, Sandy?

Sorry folks about that double post, not sure what happened.
I know you all are not anti american and pro torture but...
what Bush and the Repubs are doing is now very dangerous. And I will be voting Dem from now on until there is a redress in the balance of power in the us. Now we have a one party system and no 'system of checks and balances'. That is not a democracy. I don't want to move to Canada or Israel to live in a free democratic country. If the Dems ever get back into power, and I don't see that happening, and if they get out of control I will vote Repub. The DAmn politicians are supposed to be SERVING us, 'we the people'. We are not supposed to be serving them. It's our damn tax dollars and the Repubs want to use it for corporate welfare, thats just criminal bullshit and we all know that.
WE all MUST WORK TO SAVE AMERICA, we are the people and America belongs to us not the damn politicians, of either party nor does it belong to any religious group. Let's throw the pope and the Falwells and Robertsons and Bush out of America.
Speaking of the Bushs', just how can one family do so much damage to our entire country. They should all be put in jail.
SAVE AMERICA, it is neither Dem or Repub it belongs to 'we the people' and thats worth fighting and dying for. If our troops are willing to fight and die can we do any less.

Cover it. It's out there now, all over the internets, in the NY Post. And more than one woman has come forward with similar stories about him both in short-term and long-term relationships. For someone who likes to preach to others about using their "moral force" in this world, I think he's a hypocrite who should be exposed.

Ok, I promise, only one more.
For those of you against Keith Olbermann you must remember that in the MSM there are only a few talking heads that speak for those of us on the other side, against Bush and the Rethugs. Those few are: KO, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, Lou Dobbs and Jack Cafferty. All the rest of them along with Fox are nothing more than shills, toadies and mouthpieces for Karl Rove. They might just as well go off the air and just let Fox tell us what Rove is thinking each day. Or mabe even Fox should go off the air and let Rove use their bandwidth to give us all a one hour talk each morning about his thoughts for the day.
And da-da, da-da, da-da that, thats all folks

Sandy,

Didn't O'Reilly's "victim" go to great lengths to get herself rehired by Fox News, and then go on just to record O'Reilly's "discussions" with her? She certainly does not sound like an innocent victim to me.

you can't be serious t-bob?

I AM A CATHOLIC AND AN INDEPENDANT SWING VOTER who fears greatly for my beloved America.

Posted by: t bob at October 9, 2006 03:42 PM

You and me both!

Lordy! I seem to have grown some racist troll apendages...suffice to say I think someone who has ridiculed me for my herculean efforts on Olbermanwatch (perhaps correctly) is making pretty poor use of their lunch hour. Suffice to say that someone might want to cease and desist before some other certain someones are alerted that their names and initials are being used to spread goofy racist material on the internet, subjecting that first someone to unending scorn and misery.

Robert, I'd say go ahead and ban that IP. There are at least 50 people who share it, and there is rather definitively one of them who can't be contained by the social compact. My plan is to resign my post here in light of this oversight scandal, but if and when I decide to fritter away more time on Olbermannwatch, I wouldn't be doing it from that location anywho.

I don't see the deal about the story. Sure, it's gossip, and it'll get talked about, but some of the stuff doesn't hold water.

I believe Olbermann talked to this woman via e-mails, and I believe she flew out to have sex with him. She claims that she sent him dirty pictures to start talking to him again. She claims that he was dull in bed (which conveniently cannot be proven or even disputed unless Olbermann agrees to talk on the subject). I've read the blog for bit (I'm a sucker for gossip) and some of the things on it just don't make sense. Why is Olbermann at fault when karmabites contacted him, sent him pictures, flew to New York, rented a hotel, and had sex with him? She claims he was horrible in bed and even impotent, then she says that he spent 8 hours with her (they had sex in less than an hour, you do the math).

And even if she does release the e-mails it won't corroborate half of the things she's saying. It's an interesting story, but factually lame.

nonfacter....you may be right but what does it say about KO as a person who revels in the personal agony of others lives displaying such shaky judgement. ko is a punk!

And she stated on the blog she was Latina, not African-American. I guess now the troll can come back and spew vicious bile about 'spics.

O.K. on second look, it looks from your list like the posts before today are really mine. I don't know if this has happened before but I will be making certain enquiries with certain people, if they have not already dropped dead from their own hipocrisy.

Maybe my jeremiads against torture were premature.

While it doesn't matter in my case, it would seem that the idea of kind of flipantly exposing entire ip addresses is pretty bad policy, and I don't see that it accomplishes anything other than to needlessly frighten the half of your following that;
a. connects from work and
b. acts a lot more vociferous than no doubt they are in person.

You could just say "hey, all these posts came from the same IP" rather than giving specific numbers. If your site does grow (which boggles my mind, but undeniably seems to be happening) it could be an issue for you.

Do some research there Erie. You'll find out that Bob has quite the readership. His site leaves the olbermann fan sites in the dust.

Well I was not making any big point by publishing the IP address per se. I just copied/pasted from the MT Admin page to make the point that there was something fishy about the bizarre posts coming into the site and that they appeared to implicate Erie Bob who is someone who I do not agree with but does not seem the sort to have made such statements or posted under multiple aliases. I will edit that comment to remove the IP addresses.

For anyone following the Erie-Bob-gate scandal, I have another update. Fresh in my inbox, the perpetrator has for all intents and purposes confessed, but clearly believes he has done no wrong to me or anyone else (aside from being a monsterous hipocrit), and that he is "serving poetic justice to the unwashed masses."

I wouldn't be expecting quality content from that IP.

Wait a minute. Quality content...Olbermannwatch... well, I'd probably ban it anyway.

"...is someone who I do not agree with but..."

Now Robert, I'm sure there are a lot of things that we agree on. I think most puppies are cute, for instance. You'll go for that won't you? And of course no one would deny that the Republican leadership is for the most part either criminally negligent like Bush and Rumsfeld or just criminally... criminal like Delay and Abramoff. So there are two things right there.

Can you think of a third?

"Well I was not making any big point by publishing the IP address per se."

No complaints from me Robert. I don't care. But someone else seemed piqued and I can see how folks might be worried there anonymity can be compromised given the level some of the rhetoric gets to on these sites. People like to vent.

I think I'm going into retirement here as the discourse seems to be funneling down to sex scandals. So people may want to give extra scrutiny to future posts purporting to come from Erie Bob Olberloon. You can always tell me by my calls to drop the weird obsession, stop electing Republicans until they clean up, and my moral high horse.

So what he bangs broads and then ditches them... I guess he is the only guy.. oh wait.. hell we have all done it.

Keith has been mentioning his "girlfriend" a lot on Dan's show lately. Gee, do you wonder when he found out the NYP was going to cover this story? And a person who has been extremely protective of his personal life suddenly feels the urge to mention his love life almost every day on a radio show? Hmmm.... Sounds like damage control to me.

I vote for no coverage of the karmabites story. Tabloid-i-ness is fun, I'll admit, but Olbermannwatch tries to hold Keith accountable for reporting un and half truths as facts, and exposing his wacked-out lefty biases.

I think the entire blogosphere (and TV-radio-newspaper sphere) would be better off with less of this kind of coverage and more substance. Maybe I'm just a fuddy-duddy, but it's really getting hard to get through the static of:
"He's gay!" "Oh yeah, well your guy is a pedophile" "Oh yeah, well your guy is a wife beater!"

in order to get to: Who will protect me from nuclear suitcase bombs coming in through the completely unprotected southern border of the US? or Why should we raise capital gains taxes? etc etc.

The blog is back up.

O'Liely: "So what he bangs broads and then ditches them... I guess he is the only guy.. oh wait.. hell we have all done it."

Yeah, using company e-mail to solicit sexual photos from a viewer / client, then structuring a sexual liason at the client's expense (she paid to fly cross country and paid for the hotel) is A-OK. Telling the clueless young woman to get lost and lose your number after the sexual interlude is a wonderful idea! What's better is doing it MULTIPLE TIMES.

No, Olbermann brought this on himself. Sexual exploitation via e-mail is a big thing nowadays -- Kreepy Keith is just another example of the depths to which depraved viscious creeps will sink.

By the way O'Lielly, the fact that you have "done the same thing" is not a smart thing to admit, although you get a pass, because we all know you haven't slept with anyone.

"you get a pass, because we all know you haven't slept with anyone"

ha!

That O'Lielly! He's a real charmer. Just like Olby.

Look whose ratings just kept falling day by day last week. And I don't mean Nancy Grace.

http://insidecable.blogsome.com/2006/10/09/fridays-numbers-21/#more-3515

KFK,,, hell, she said she was your sister.

At least Karmabites lends credibility that KO is heterosexual. Alas he has failed at that too ! What a surprise !!!!

Wow, O'Lamely, my sister is dead, so that makes Keith a big perverted necrophiliac. I'll call page 6 with the news now. You sure are inventive by the way! Are the "your mama" insults next?

And not a word about this on his show tonight. Not that any man in his right mind would call attention to a story about his impotence issues but we all know that Olby isn't right in the mind.

He's in damage control mode. Shhhh.

"Yeah, using company e-mail to solicit sexual photos from a viewer / client"

She sent him the dirty pictures of herself all on her own and unasked.

"then structuring a sexual liason at the client's expense (she paid to fly cross country and paid for the hotel) is A-OK"

He didn't force her to buy a ticket, fly to New York, rent a hotel, and have sex with him. You act as if he's some criminal mastermind manipulating some naive girl.

"Telling the clueless young woman to get lost and lose your number after the sexual interlude is a wonderful idea! What's better is doing it MULTIPLE TIMES."

Again, acting as if the woman is helpless. She made a mistake in flying to New York for a one-night stand, but she isn't a dutz and stop acting like it.

"No, Olbermann brought this on himself."

Brought what exactly?

The timeline of the Karmabites1 story has so many holes, back sliding and contradictions that one can question the "truthiness" of it!

Based on the info she provided, she kept attempting to contact him by e-mail and phone after the fling...that's when he supposedly said to get a life.

As for the "others" -- again, just "woe is me" stories that cannot be proven and sound exactly like Karma's.

To read these things may be great entertainment...but makes me wonder about the maturity of whomever is posting them. Heck, if I were Olbermann and had a fling with such whining, immature crybaby kids, I to would tell them to leave me alone, too.

If he did not ask her to stop sending the pictures, he's to blame as well.

So where is his denouncement of gossip? Where is his outrage over this? And why exactly hasn't he sued Karma for this blog before now to stop it?Theories?

Reality Bites/Kathy - Why don't you scramble back over to your own "comic relief" blog (or better yet, to the other schizos over at KO.org) where you can bellow all you want until your head explodes. I'm surprised you haven't had an aneurysm over this yet.

Talk about sock puppets. It must feel good to slavishly support someone who also follows the "Do as I say not as I do" code.

If the chick from DC who posted there is legit and goes public about her experience, that could be quite damaging.

You got to love the Olby loons. They have decided to portray Karma as a liar, because her story, in their deluded minds, is "full of holes." Seriously, they constructed a timeline based on her blog posts! Of course, they have quite the history about declaring something to be false/a lie. There was the Nazi salute photo which they swore had been photoshopped. That theory died hard when he went on Leno and admitted he'd done the ole' Heil Hitler routine. So then the spin became that it was okay to make a gesture filled with such hatred and bigotry the anti-defamation league demanded an apology (which Olbermann never issued). Then when rumors began to swirl he was involved with a girl just out of college, the Olbermann loons cooked up an elaborate scenario in which Keith was just acting as a tour guide to Ms. Katy. Now that it's emerged that he's living with her, the spin is that his personal life is no one's business despite the fact that it is Keith himself who threw those tidbits out there for everyone to hear.

http://www.forthisreliefmuchthanks.blogspot.com/

That's karma's website...

Brandon said:

"So where is his denouncement of gossip? Where is his outrage over this? And why exactly hasn't he sued Karma for this blog before now to stop it?Theories?"

I think something about not provoking crazy people would be appropriate.

""So where is his denouncement of gossip? Where is his outrage over this? And why exactly hasn't he sued Karma for this blog before now to stop it?Theories?"

I think something about not provoking crazy people would be appropriate."

Yeah, but we all know that KO is not about to avoid denouncing something unflattering to himself, no matter who it comes from.

Face it people, your excuses for him are flimsy.

Oh, I like the theory that he has people working "behind the scenes" to figure out who Karma is, and he's just biding his time until "she produces enough rope to hang herself".

WTF are you people on?

Where is that red tie? Any theories on how she obtained that exactly? Or was that all a photoshop job?

The Olbyloons claim any bad thing said against Olby is a plot by Karl Rove. Karl Rove wouldn't know Olby from dirt. I doubt they care who he is. No one watches his show.

The latest in today's Post is that he confirms a "close relative" died in May, although he would not confirm it was an aunt nor did he have any additional response to KarmaBites's story. But doesn't this confirm her story about the Aunt dying and him using it as an excuse to dump her? How will the Olbyloons explain away how it was that this woman knew about his relative dying unless he told her? He never mentioned it on air and no trace of an obit can be found searching either on Olbermann's name or his mother's maiden name.

He probably went to a baseball game.

In Philadelphia or DC.

I listened to Dan and Olby's ESPN show today. Olby didn't sound too peppy. Wonder why?

Maybe the NYP wants to welcome his new girlfriend to town.

"The latest in today's Post is that he confirms a "close relative" died in May, although he would not confirm it was an aunt nor did he have any additional response to KarmaBites's story."

I can't wait to hear the excuses for why he didn't take this opportunity to deny the story. It will probably be more of the "he doesn't give stalkers attention" or even "he's biding his time to REALLY get her!" drivel.

I wonder how long the Post will run these juicy tidbits?

I used to make it a hobby to read the Olby fan blogs but work has been very very hectic as of late so I haven't been keeping up with them. But But today I just had to go see what they said about Olbermann confirming elements of Karma's story. And do you know what they're saying? Nothing. Nothing at all. Nope. NOthing to see here, keep moving along. Nothing to see here. Move along people!

So there was the one (EROT) that insists the woman in question is obviously a mentally deranged, crazed, obsessive stalker and that not a single word of her story could possibly be true. And then there's the fan blog set up to debunk Karma who insists that Olbermann's secret police force is on the job and will root out whoever is "really behind" Karma and the great "hoax" being perpetued by her and her accomplices any moment and have them all executed or something.

And then there are the DUmmies. They urged others to email the Post and to complain about these kinds of stories. They emailed KO with suggestions about who they think she could be. Uh--he had a one-night stand with her, I'm pretty sure he knows who she is.

And of course the excuse for him not addressing this is that he wouldn't dare dignify such "trash" with a comment. But boy, he sure was all over Bill O'Reilly's little sex scandal and Rush's run-in witht he law over Viagra like a fly on crap wasn't he?

So while KO is confirming elements of her story are true, elements that she couldn't possibly have known from any other source but Keith himself since he never mentioned a death of a relative on-air before this confirmation to the Post, they remain in ignorance, even asking on one blog (ko.org) that she not be discussed at all. But these are the very same people who post detailed sexual fantasies involving themselves WITH Olbermann. Double standards and KO fanatics seem to go hand in hand.

And you know, they've never answered the question about where the red tie she says he gave her is at if she never met him because it's never shown up on the air again. Details are a bitch aren't they?

Oh, and to answer your question, Bob said in another thread that he's heard that certain individuals in the press have a rather thick folder on Olbermann and have had for awhile now and that we should expect more to come.

"they remain in ignorance, even asking on one blog (ko.org) that she not be discussed at all. But these are the very same people who post detailed sexual fantasies involving themselves WITH Olbermann."

Believe me, that's not the start of it with those folks.

This gets weirder and weirder each day. But what could one expect - that's Olby.

A bunch of stalkers calling another woman a stalker? Shocking.

Have you heard the newest over at the schizo ward?

"What does his acknowledgment of this small fact about a relative's death (assuming we can trust that catbox liner when it says he confirmed a fact!) suggest to me? It suggests to me the man is preparing something. Something he's not about to reveal yet, but will in good time, and when forced to--but perhaps only if forced to."

If he ain't done it by now, he ain't going to do it because that's a can of ex date-mates he doesn't want to open up. Really, they are quite sad and pathetic in their own little way aren't they? But oh so amusing. I guess they missed the parting shot on the Radio Show yesterday in which Dan described Keith as "saving democracy one FAN at a time." How much closer to an acknowledgement do you want to get.

And P.S. Anyone seen that red tie lately?

I hope he doesn't live by any schools or day care centers. What a creep.

Let's hope his radio partner Dan Patrick keeps his 3 preteen daughters out of KO's way. I'm sure he's just waiting for them to get to a fuckable age for him.

Would you let your young daughters anywhere near Olby if the reports about his girlfriend's age are true? Ew.

It's definately Tur and she graduated from college in 2005. You do the math. Dan told him today on the radio show it was nice of him to bring his daughter with him to the show and then mentioned how she was in junior high. He'll be 48 in January. She's 22, 23 tops. Yikes.

Dan really knows how to irk Olby, doesn't he? He needles Olby a lot.

That story creeps me out even more. Double ew. Eeeewwww. Maybe she has severe daddy issues. If Freud were alive today, I wonder what he would say about it.

Her daddy is younger than Olby I think.

I really think he was behind this blog the entire time. Something to fit in with he's persecution theory, something to make people think that the "Gop and Rove" are trying to shut him down. I can't imagine why he'd make up the part about being impotent but what's worse than having that spread about yourself on the NY Post? Sympathy. And of course people would tune in to see if he'd respond. A sure ratings booster he was probably thinking.

Those Post stories about him were among the most mailed over the last few days.

Her father is younger than Olby? Eeeeeewwwwwwww. That is gross.

I think the reason the blog is gone now is that Olby finally apologized to her or finally came to his senses and paid her off to make this all go away. That's why he hasn't denounced her, he can't. It's why there has been no arrest for stalking, no lawsuit for slander/libel: It's all true. If nothing else, he owed her big time for making those gay rumors about him go away.

Haven't you heard, Tara? The reason he hasn't sued her or denounced her is because HE'S PLANNING SOME BIG-TIME RETRIBUTION!1!!!111ELEVENONE1!ZOMG

He can't. It's all true and then some. He's just praying to God more women don't come out of the woodwork on this. He got into some major league trouble earlier in the year with his bosses at MSNBC when this first hit. There's not going to be any retribution towards this woman in the least.

He's hired a kid straight out of college to move in with him and pose as his girlfriend to save his ass over this. Oh yeah, he's planning on major smackdown alright. LOL. Really are you people THIS stupid?

It does not appear as if Dan Patrick approves of this arrangement. He makes fun of her on the air.

He did so again today by referring to Katy as Olby's daughter. And Olby did call her by name - he is living with Katy. She was talking in the background while he was on air. Dan said that when Olby brought her to the ESPN NY studio, the staff thought it was bring your daughter to work day. Olby responded by saying Katy didn't like being called his daughter. Dan tried to cover (not very well) by saying she's a nice girl. Dan also said that several emailers wanted to know if Katy were hot and asked Olby to post pics on Dan's show site. Olby didn't say she she was hot - he said she looked like Tina Fey. Boy, there's a compliment.

Didn't someone post links to her pics here before?

I'm hoping that Olby's exes give Lloyd Grove his inaugural scoop when he's back in business in a few weeks. They're welcome to go to another publication sooner, though, if they want to speed it along.

I've seen her pics. She's cute at best. and that appears to have been with some cosmetic enhancements. No wonder KO didn't want her picture posted on the radio show website as requested. Apparently he is buying her very expensive gifts, Prada & Marc Jacobs purses and shoes. "Girlfriends" don't come cheap do they KO?

About the swag, apparently she's dressing for the role to keep up appearances. That costs $$$$. He has a reputation for being cheap, so that must hurt. There goes his EBay card budget.

A man who never ever said a single word about his personal life is now yipping non-stop about her on-air. And he's moved-her in with him and wants to make a big point that people know he's moved her in with him. Now he's trying to prove that he's a big spender. Hmmm. Now why would that be exactly?

I think we're going to hear more nasty things about Uncle Pervy.

make that GranDaddy Pervy

Sugar Daddy Pervy.

Remember those Olbyloons who insisted he'd "never" date a woman "that" much younger than he was? Wonder what they're saying now about that? I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for a retraction from them though. They have a huge blind spot where he's concerned. Then again, maybe they're just deaf, dumb, blind, and incredibly stupid.

After all of the slurs he's leveled at women, I can't believe that he has any female fans left at all. Incredibly stupid is my guess.

Oh no, he's an equal opportunity slurer to hear them spin it. Too bad the evidence does NOT support that. Just as they overlooked his Heil Hitler salute, they are perfectly willing to overlook this as well. It still doesn't explain their stubborn instance that he'd "never" date a woman THIS young when clearly he's moved her in with him. Isn't this the same guy who ridiculed Donald Trump, Tom Cruise, and Nic Cage for doing the exact same thing? When will it occur to them that he's a raging hypocrite and liar?

I hope young Katy takes him for everything he has and then writes a tell-all book.

KB's blog is back up. Cheers.

Oh, I bet Olbermann will just be thrilled to hear that Karma is back blogging again.

Olbermann is lucky the Bush mob only tried to do a Lewinsky on him and not have him killed. We knew he is in their cross hairs for his unfavourable comments on the WH. Now he can fully appreciate the predicament Clinton found himself in!. Monica or Karma declaring their "availability" waving thongs, giving BJs or sex. Red blooded male fall for this trick everytime.

Olbermann is lucky the Bush mob only tried to do a Lewinsky on him and not have him killed. We knew he is in their cross hairs for his unfavourable comments on the WH. Now he can fully appreciate the predicament Clinton found himself in!. Monica or Karma declaring their "availability" waving thongs, giving BJs or sex. Red blooded male fall for this trick everytime.

Lydia, get a grip. Olbermann has got the fourth-lowest rated cable news shows in his time slot. His ratings pale in significance to the programs on CNN & Fox News. While you, in your little world of blogs and leftist websites THINK Olbermann is important, the truth is that he is little more than a gnat. And he got himself into this mess. If he was the genius you Olbyloons proclaim him to be, he'd never have thought with his dick now would he? It takes TWO and he was a very willing part in all of this apparently.

Lydia, your meds are wearing off.

I think Olby and his band of lunatic followers all need to see if they can get a group discount on thorazine.

These loonbags think any negative press about Olby is a Rovian plot. Maybe they can get a good deal on Thorazine at Costco (in bulk).

Well Olbermann is supposedly cheap so maybe that's what's wrong with him now: using generic anti-psychotic meds instead of the real thing. That would explain oh so much if you ask me. Apparently a large percentage of his fans have undiagnosed and untreated mental illnesses or else, just mass stupidity which prevents there seeing that he's wrong re just about everything.

"I think we're going to hear more nasty things about Uncle Pervy."

That's my hunch too. T

This is the reason he's suddenly moved this woman in with him and is talking about her publicly.

I have seen too many intelligent male fall prey to their ego without a single thought as to how/why a woman kneeling in front of them could affect their career. What sort of "woman" has sexual relations with someone and then proceed to broadcast the event to the rest of the World
unless she is getting paid to do so.

Thorazine???? Don't know it, but you obviously do. Perhaps YOU should avail yourself of the bulk discount,you are crowing about.

While you, in your little world of blogs and leftist websites THINK Olbermann is important, the truth is that he is little more than a gnat.
Posted by: Brandon at October 15, 2006 09:46 AM

So you think this is a leftist website? I guess you think he is important, you here. He must be a little more than a gant, he is a threat to a world veiw that needs to die soon before it gets us all killed.

The walrus was paul. And guess who was codas.

No, actually I don't think he's important. I think he's just very factually wrong. And that's what grates me about him, the sheer degree of lies, distortions and errors contained on his show, in every single show. He might be more popular if he actually tried to present the show in a balanced manner, and actually didn't use the liberal talking points as a guide to what he should cover for the night.

Olby definitely is in the midst of a major damage control effort. How long will the machine be on the spin cycle as far as his personal life is concerned? I'm surprised at how far he has gone to counter the accusations that he treats women like dirt. Sugar Daddy, it ain't working.

I hope Karma keeps hacking away at Olbermann and I hope the NY Post and the NY Daily News don't let up on him either.