Is this what the right supports ? I mean I know Newt smart man,, but this may be the dumbest thing ever said...

Gingrich raises alarm at event honoring those who stand up for freedom of speech

By RILEY YATES
Union Leader Staff
20 hours, 35 minutes ago

MANCHESTER – Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich yesterday said the country will be forced to reexamine freedom of speech to meet the threat of terrorism.
Newt Gingrich

GINGRICH

Gingrich, speaking at a Manchester awards banquet, said a "different set of rules" may be needed to reduce terrorists' ability to use the Internet and free speech to recruit and get out their message.

"We need to get ahead of the curve before we actually lose a city, which I think could happen in the next decade," said Gingrich, a Republican who helped engineer the GOP's takeover of Congress in 1994.

Gingrich spoke to about 400 state and local power brokers last night at the annual Nackey S. Loeb First Amendment award dinner, which fetes people and organizations that stand up for freedom of speech.

Gingrich sharply criticized campaign finance laws he charged were reducing free speech and doing little to fight attack advertising. He also said court rulings over separation of church and state have hurt citizens' ability to express themselves and their faith.

Last night's event, held at the Radisson Hotel-Center of New Hampshire, honored a Lakes Region newspaper and a former speaker of the House for work in favor of free expression.

The Citizen of Laconia was given the Nackey S. Loeb First Amendment Award, which is named after the longtime President and Publisher of the Union Leader Corporation, owner of New Hampshire's statewide newspaper.

The Citizen scrutinized the Newfound Area School Board beginning last year over a series of e-mail discussions held before public meetings. It also used the right-to-know law to uncover costly decisions by the town of Tilton this year.

Executive Editor John Howe said the decision to pursue the stories led to at least one advertiser canceling its business with the paper.

"We try to practice what we preach, even if it costs us business," Howe said. "And it has and it will in the future.

Also honored was Marshall Cobleigh, former House speaker and a longtime aide to former Gov. Meldrim Thomson.

Cobleigh introduced an amendment to the state Constitution defending free speech. He also helped shepherd the state's 1967 right-to-know law through the Legislature.

Gingrich's speech focused on the First Amendment, but in an interview beforehand, he also hit upon wide-ranging topics.

* Gingrich said America has "failed" in Iraq over the past three years and urged a new approach to winning the conflict. The U.S. needs to engage Syria and Iran and increase investment to train the Iraqi army and a national police force, he said. "How does a defeat for America make us safer?" Gingrich said. "I would look at an entirely new strategy." He added: "We have clearly failed in the last three years to achieve the kind of outcome we want."

* Political parties in Presidential primary states should host events that invite candidates from both parties to discuss issues, said Gingrich, who criticized the sharpness of today's politics.

* Gingrich said voters unhappy with the war, the response to Hurricane Katrina and pork barrel spending were the main drive behind the GOP's rejection at the polls. But he argued Republicans would have retained the Senate and just narrowly lost the House if President Bush had announced the departure of embattled Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld before, instead of after, the election.

* Gingrich said he will not decide whether he is running for President until September 2007.

The event last night was sponsored by the Nackey S. Loeb School of Communications. The school was founded in 1999 to promote journalism and other forms of communication.

Spare us, O'Lielly and Olby. More left-wing hysterics. Do you honestly take Newt seriously?

Maybe NBC is interviewing new Countdown hosts in NY while Olby is in LA. His contract is up in March, you know. Like the home page counter says...

Well... the hick was responsible for the republican revolution, was speaker of the house for 6 years so apparently some GOP'ers took him seriously.

And most GOPers favor the First Amendment, particularly those who blog. More Olbyganda.

Did Newt date more in college than he did during his first marriage ? America knows about Newt that is why he is so hated throughout the country.

Again, another impartial discussion on Mr. Olbermann's show....

When discussing the likability of possible presidential candidates poll, guest and journalist made the following assessments regarding the #1 and #2 highest rated politicians (and I am paraphrasing, since I am devoid of TIVO):

Guiliani - It is just laughable to consider him "likable". Calling him the most likable would be like calling Robert Novak the most likable journalist.

Obama - This is just an example of how big a "rockstar" he is now.

Just making sure I understood correctly...the highest rated politician couldn't be considered likable by any measure, and the second highest rated is a "rockstar".

You have to love the impartial and critical analysis you receive every night on Countdown.

No one claimed Newtie was a saint.

Maybe Obama is #1 in the critical all-important key demo...

In Olbyworld, that would make perfect sense.

Please tell us how to stop male fertility, Olby.

Johnny:

You really should consider getting away from your "infamous, deplorable, Keith Obermann line. It sounds just like propaganda, the very thing you say you deplore in his shows. Do you really think anyone reading that line would expect an objective, unbiased analysis of his show? It sounds ridiculous every time I read it.

Johnny:

You really should consider getting away from your "infamous, deplorable, Keith Obermann" line. It sounds just like propaganda, the very thing you say you deplore in his shows. Do you really think anyone reading that line would expect an objective, unbiased analysis of his show? It sounds ridiculous every time I read it.

Check the FAQ and the Olbersaurus. I use it precisely because it DOES sound like propaganda, because it IS propaganda. It has to be, it's a quote from Olby himself.

Guiliani - It is just laughable to consider him "likable". Calling him the most likable would be like having Keith Olbermann on GQ's Men of the Year list.

Fox News Watch gets Worse Person of the World, the bronze, for misspelling his name. What a surprise. What took Olby so long?

Worst People in the World...

Fox News Watch

Christian Coalition

Bill Orally

Yep...I am definitely glad that Mr. Olbermann has "moved on" from BillO.

And BOR gets the gold from Little Olby Paper, who loves that rascal, Puff. It's his Olbsession - he can't let go.

Its pefectly fine to use "infamous, deplorable, Keith Obermann" here this is an opinion site..its KO who claims to be unbiased while giving left-wing talking points pretending to be news...and at least here there are opposing viewpoints such as shown by Bill O'lielly which is somthing KO will not allow on his show.

KTO just slammed Fox News(Watch) and O'Reilly(yet again). I expected Olber-dud to mention Cal Thomas' nominated Turkey award yesterday but true to form, Olby decided to attack Fox Newswatch today instead over the aforementioned name misspelling. What a dumb-ass!!! Keith's show has become so predictable, I'd prefer watching Nancy (Dis)Grace.

Fox News Watch gets Worse Person of the World, the bronze, for misspelling his name. What a surprise. What took Olby so long?
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This coming from the guy who used the wrong picture of Neil Boortz not once but twice on his show.

You brought up a good point Johnny...if KO wants to know what Gingrich is talking about why not ask him on his show?..I know why he won't he's afraid he would come on and KO couldn't take that chance...the new "Murrow" indeed.

Olbermann is infamously scared of flying. Wonder if he'd keep his seat on a plane if confronted with Imams?

Johnny D:

Another great review... Good point on Newt. He would be more than happy to appear with Citizen Keith, but KO does not have the Kahuna's nor the brain to take on Newt.

Loved the pictures of Newt as well... KO loves to grab the worst possible pictures of the people he hates and put them on his show.

Obviously, he learned this from Time Magazine.

Monkeymann managed to blame Rupert for profiting from a broken contract with ABC over the OJ deal.

So ABC gets cold feet and KO expects a company (FOX) with shareholders to say..."Hey Disney, keep the million bucks!!"

What an absurd nut KO is. He actually believes the crap he dishes out.

For the last time, shut up about Harry Reid. You use a DISCREDITED HACK from the Associated Press as the source. It's been three weeks, and not one person GIVES A DAMN about it except you, an arrogant a--hole who couldn't write copy for the Podunk Times without screwing it up. SO SHUT YOUR f---ING MOUTH!

Signed,
An ENRAGED Nevadan who is sick of listening to someone who KNOWS ABSO-f---ING-LUTELY NOTHING.

And you believe the HORSESHIT that Johnny Dollar writes, so what does that make you?

Oh, it's a Civil War by the way...NBC proclaimed it... Al Jazeera @ 30 Rock.

Hey ENRAGED Nevadan,

Which lobbyist son of Harry Reid are you?

Larry, Curly, or Moe?

The enraged nevadan must be Harry Reid himself!
What was he in the poll...# 17?

"Wonder if he'd keep his seat on a plane if confronted with Imams? "

He would great thanks them and prais Mahmoud Ahmadinejad! Then he would join them in prayer for a US Defeat!

Signed,
An ENRAGED Nevadan who is sick of listening to someone who KNOWS ABSO-f---ING-LUTELY NOTHING
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Please keep bringing it up Johnny...there must be something to it to get his fan so upset.

Condi was #4 in the poll... Olby swept that under the rug.... Hilarious Olbyganda.

What a selective journalist... Citizen Keith and his nightly declaration of principles.....

I'm a person who is SICK AND TIRED of a HACK like Johnny Dollar propping up ANOTHER HACK like John Solomon. I could spend three f---ING hours explaining WHY this is BULLSHIT, but none of you f---ERS would read it. So I am responding in a language that you understand!

I don't like flip responses, Rico. And I'm upset, mlong, because THERE IS NOTHING THERE! How would you like it if I spent three weeks making insinuations without a shred of evidence? It would piss you off. Well, I'm pissed! So what did you expect, flowers?

Does KO ever get an opposing view on the show?
Amazing that NBC news tolerates this...

O yeah, it's a civil war.. NBC said it...They want to BE the news...like that fink David Gregory.

Get Anonymous a shot and a beer.....breathe man...breathe....

> Please keep bringing it up Johnny...there must be something to it to get his fan so upset.

Absolutely. It's a treat to see him go ballistic, blaming some guy who doesn't even work for ABC News, when I'm citing an ABC News report. It's OlbyLogic in its most virulent form.

When does any program on MSNBC have an opposing views. All day its the same pundits, same topics, all saying the same thing as if scripted.

They mention FoxNews so much, I wonder if they charge Fox for advertising.

THERE IS NOTHING THERE! How would you like it if I spent three weeks making insinuations without a shred of evidence?
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Kind of like how KO kept going after Karl Rove on the Plame name leak case?

Like I've said before if this site gets people like you this upset maybe you should stop coming here.

Bravo on all of the reviews. I just started coming to this site about a month ago and the writing is tremendous. The term "Olbyplanet" makes me laugh every time I read it. And it truly is amazing that Olbermann can have one the same rotation of guests week after week (Man-Crush Milbank, Alter (who would predict the Lions would meet the Browns in the Super Bowl), Musto (creepy, indeed), O'Donnell, Crawford (also creepy and possible the next Max Headroon) and Huffington. How this show gets any ratings (when it isn't losing to game shows) is beyond me. Without debate, what is compelling about anything on Countdown? Shame some people can't see through this propaganda, whether you agree with some of the conclusions drawn or not, this IS NOT A NEWS SHOW.

Johnny Dollar:

"It's a treat to see him go ballistic, blaming some guy who doesn't even work for ABC News, when I'm citing an ABC News report."

Because, MORON, the ABC report RELIES on the reporting of John Solomon. It says right in the text of the ABC story that the information comes from an AP Story. Who wrote the AP story? JOHN SOLOMON, that's who!

God Almighty, you are an idiot. It's right there in black and white and YET YOU REFUSE TO READ IT!

You can't read a simple ABC report and you call me an idiot? Solomon didn't write the report because he doesn't work for ABC News. Solomon didn't report that Abramoff is implicating Reid, and neither did AP. ABC News reports that. Abramoff is fingering Dirty Harry Reid, and he's going down. Thank you ABC News, for driving Anonymous totally bananas!

Now that the Krazy Tan man has settled to the bottom of the cable news rating cellar once again will there be a "special comment" soon on the way ...lol.
I'm sure "Deal or no Deal" on CNBC last night means a 5th place finish in a five horse race for lard ass Keith.

For the last time, Dollar, the ABC report references the AP story written by John Solomon. I quote FROM YOUR OWN f---ING SOURCE:

"The Associated Press reported earlier this year that Reid wrote at least four letters helpful to the tribes that had contributed money to his campaign.

Reid has denied there was any connection between the letters and the contributions and has said he is a longtime opponent of certain kinds of Indian reservation gambling.

The AP reported that Reid acknowledged "routine contacts" with Abramoff's lobbying partners and intervening to block rival tribal casinos.

The AP also reported that Abramoff's billing records showed extensive contact with Reid's office over a three-year period in which Reid collected more than $68,000 from Abramoff's firm, partners and clients."

It's right there, YOU f---ING IDIOT! HOW f---ING BLIND ARE YOU?

Not so blind that I can't understand English like you. The AP story says nothing about Abramoff implicating Reid. But ABC does. That's the big news. The eeevil Jack Abramoff is now pointing the finger at Dirty Harry Reid. ABC News sez so.

Hey Mike

If the "infamous, deplorable," Keith Olbermann line offends you. Why don't you go call somebody who cares. Like Gloria Allred.

It will never cease to amaze me. If somebody is number one in a poll and Olbyloons don't like him. They just say, "It doesn't count."

And Olby proves once again what a low-life coward he is by not inviting Newt on. Hey if Newt is all that afraid of the big bad Olby he would have hid under his desk right? Even Edward R. Morrow had McCarthy on. I'm no Newt fan so I would like to see him go up against the all and powerful Olby of Loon. Wouldn't everybody like to see that?

I wonder if Keith's girlfriend is waking up in the morning finding her panties streched a bit. Like some fat-ass B**** was wearing them.

Ya know this Harry Reid thing could get really interesting. Say Harry tries to fight this and it draws out over the next year and a half. How is the (I love this term) "Drive By Media" gona keep this off the air? I could see it now. Everybody has to report that Harry Reid gets indicted. But on Countdown the lead story will be anonymous sources inside the White House have talked about MR. BUSH leaving the door open to the bathroom after he takes a dump.

A side note: Am I alone or should Roger Hedgecock have a daily national show?

J.D. Just a thought but. All this positive syrup press Dopey has been getting. Would maybe the fact is that nobody at M.S.L.S.D.A.J. has started contact talks with him and he's trying make it look like somebody might want him? LOL! Where could he go?

I just had this really sick thought come in my head. What if whats her name came over to Olby's apartment after the show one night to surprise him and found Olby. Mo Rocca, Creepy Musto, having a pantie party. With her panties!!!!!!!

I've got to go take a shower.

P.S. Johnny I don't know if you noticed.....but I think Anon has issues.

Skip it. You obviously don't give a FLYING f--- whether the story is credible or not. Therefore, I don't give a FLYING f--- about you, this site or anything else for that matter.

I'm done. Believe what you want, but you keep spreading this HORSESHIT and someone WILL find a way to SHUT YOU DOWN.

Harry Reid has always struck me a a pussy. Pelosi has more balls.

You guys will be arguing about the same thing with different media clowns until the day you die...

Are you really sick of biased news where opposing views are rarely discussed?

Consider these facts

1987 - Fairness Doctrine is abolished under Reagan

The Fairness Doctrine required our news media to give fair and equal time to both sides of an issue.

Congress fought it but Reagan vetoed. Congress tried again 91, and Bush Sr. threatend to or did vetoe.

1996 - Telecommunications Act of 96 made sweeping changes to ownership rules. That is why we've gone from roughly 80 major media companies back in 86 to a mere 6 now - who control OVER 90% of ALL forms of American media.

That's just their American holdings...

In 2000, two key corollary rules were thrown out.
1.The personal attack rule
2.The political editorial rule

Now the news can personally attack someone without giving them notice, or a chance to respond. They can also cover whichever political campaigner they want - again without the need to give the opposition equal air time, or even a chance to respond.

2003 - The FCC voted to further relax the laws - to much protest - even from within the FCC. They had the biggest response they had ever seen. 750,000 people sent in responses.

99.9% of them opposed the move. It passed anyway.

Except, there was an uprising in the Senate. All of the new FCC rules were tossed.

However, Congress attached a rider to an unrelated bill, and it passed - in virtual secret.

Now the FCC is proposing a new Act to replace the one from 96. This one is focused on bringing the internet into the picture...

I know some of you will think I'm a blowhard, but really, unless you like just arguing about how crappy the media has gotten, you need to understand why.

Media consolidation is dangerous - look at any fascist regime or dictatorship.

It benefits the big corporations at the expense of the citizenry.

For news that is a little less biased check out BBC World News...

Thanks for your time

Robin

"Said Bush, "The United States will not withdraw from Iraq until our presence there has become completely untenable."

Finally; the man clearly articulates the US objectives in Iraq.

"http://thehill.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/UndertheDome/112906.html

"At a private reception held at the White House with newly elected lawmakers shortly after the election, Bush asked Webb how his son, a Marine lance corporal serving in Iraq, was doing.

Webb responded that he really wanted to see his son brought back home, said a person who heard about the exchange from Webb.

“I didn’t ask you that, I asked how he’s doing,” Bush retorted, according to the source."
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This is your chosen leader? chickenhawk motherf---er.

It's too late boys and girls...no need to bother implementing global warming reduction initiatives...

smoke 'em if ya got 'em!

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23376247-details/Controversial+scientist+predicts+planetary+wipeout/article.do

Ok....so, olby does a whole segment on Newt and his statement, but in that segment, has no interview w/ Newt, no representative for Newt, nobody with similar views to Newt, and NOT EVEN THE FULL TEXT OF THE SPEECH has been looked at/studied/gone over?

Wow! Someone please hand olby another journalism award for the incredibly hard work and thorough research that goes into each and every show...

Kurt,

There's a pattern on the comments section of this site that is illustated in a microcosm in your post.

First you wrote, "The Newt story is important and needs more play than it has received. For giving it play, I commend Mr. Olbermann."

Therein lies the rub. If the Newt "story" is to be presented fairly, his side needs to be told...if not by Gingrich himself, then someone from his camp or within the GOP. In this case, and every other on Countdown, this act of balance is against the rules. Keith proceeds to present the story as absolute fact, finds an "analyst" to drive the point home, and moves on. This kind of reporting simply goes against every rule of journalism and therefore is disingenuous and should be ignored (and if ratings tell the story, it largely is).

From there, posters like you go off on diatribes about Iraq, Bush, and anything else anti-GOP as if it justifies the way Olbermann presents his "news". Who cares if the whole story isn't being told? As long as Olbermann throws it out there, he should be commended.

Until both sides of an argument are presented, Countdown cannot be taken seriously. At least on O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes, both sides are allowed to voice their opinions, which is why they have 4-5x the ratings Countdown does.

ever notice keith lifts his whole show from the internet? you can pretty much go on huffington post, or tmz, or drudge all afternoon and by 6pm you can tell what hes going to do that night

I was a lefty in the 1990s...did not care much for Newt...Now I'm a bit more conservative.

Newt has been making a lot of sense over the past year. I think if he runs, he will get the nomination. The republicans want a man from the base. Newt is the guy.

He's got some decent ideas if your really paying attention. I would vote for him.

There is no new writing on Countdown anymore, it is all, lifted, in some cases word for word, from liberal websites and gossip sites on the internet. And this is supposed to be the 21st Century Edward R. Murrow? What a joke.

Newt would love to appear on Countdown.
Monkeymann has no balls and therefore will not invite him on the show.

That's a major difference between him and O'Reilly besides the ratings, of course.

> You keep spreading this HORSESHIT and someone WILL find a way to SHUT YOU DOWN.

Hahahahaaaaa! Man, this is the sort of comedy gold you just can't get from Michael Richards. If this site did nothing more than bring the world wacky entertainment like this, it'd be worth all the effort. Hahahaaaa!

JD...

I dunno, sounds like a threat to me...he is like his olby-hero...but even olby apologized for his most recent threat to billo

PS: what is it now? 3 out 4 times olby has billo in the WPITW top 3 since he told the espn radio dan patrick audience that he was so over billo, he had grown up...laughable....plus the other posters got it right with the predidction that since someone made fun of the great and powerful O (Cal Thomas), he would soon show up on WPITW...lo and behold olby did not disappoint

> I dunno, sounds like a threat to me...

Well a threat from a nobody ain't much of a threat. But it does show how flexible the Olbypologists are, ready to clamp down on free speech the moment someone says something they don't like. Olbypocrisy exemplified.

and for the record, he gave the interview to GQ back in September and told them he was bidding adieu to his own personal "Puff the Magic Dragon". Just how many times will Olbermann be caught in his own lies before his fanatical fans wise up and realize how often he lies about the most simple of things and then (finally) begins to question the rest of the lies and distortions that come out of his mouth?

HOW TO STYMIE A SUPERPOWER ON ONLY HALF-A-MILLION DOLLARS A DAY

-- Ignored CIA Warnings Now Costing U.S. Quarter Billion Each Day To Screw Up War on Terror --

WASHINGTON -- As early as June 2003, the CIA informed President Bush in a classified briefing that the United States occupation of Iraq was likely to fail because it faced a "classic insurgency" that would be prohibitively expensive, if not impossible, to counteract. Those unheeded warnings have now left the United States spending over 8 billion dollars a month in Iraq, while insurgents have become financially self-sufficient, according to a recent government report. The report estimates that the insurgency in Iraq is raising an estimated 150 million dollars per year from a host of illegal activities to fund a growing rebellion which has the United States mired in an ever worsening quagmire.

Blowhard,

The Fairness doctrine goes against the 1st ammendment.

You don't like free speech?

Anon,

It goes against the 1st ammendment if you consider mega multinational corporations to have the same freedom of speech as you do.

Is it right that Time Warner has the same free speech rights as you - with the platform they have?

The Consumer Federation of America (much smaller than Time Warner)was looking for a platform to discuss their opposition of the 96 Telecommunications Act. Nobody would give them the time of day. They tried to BUY time on CNN, and were refused.

Does that go against the first ammendment?

Anyone in opposition to controversial topics can't even buy their way into the discussion...

How much did you hear, or do you know about the Act of 96?

The three major news networks covered the story for a whole 9 months...
for a sum total of 19 minutes...

I urge any of you to look into this - outside the mainstream media. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but based on history and looking at typical dictatorships, we are showing many signs of heading into a fascist totalitarian regime.

Robin

lol

Totalitarian Fascist Regime!!??

have another drink...

What do you think the war on terror is about?
We're trying to get rid of them.

blow harder...

Puck:

I'm a day late, but you might read this anyway!

Where did you get the idea that JD saying the "infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann" 'OFFENDS' me. Go back and read my post again....I said "it sounds a little silly to me every time I read it" and, I said...."it sounds like propaganda". What is your definition of "taking offense"?

JD's answer to my post was reasonable...yours wasn't

Anon,

Judging by your post, you probably only know about the war on terror from the news, which if you read my original post, you would know that I'm saying you can't trust everything you see on T.V.

The war on terror is an absolute farce. There are terrorists out there, but the threat they pose is highly exxagerated in the news...

Consider this:

Ever heard of the Riechstag Fire? It is well documented and proven that this was Hitler's key to gaining his dictatorship. There is also much speculation surrounding the event, the investigation, and the trial, as to whether Hitler himself was involved.

The Riechstag Fire was similar to our 9/11. The Riechstag was the central parliament in Germany at the time. Hitler claimed that Communist Terrorists were responsible. Whether he was involved or not is mostly irrelevant. The fact is, the attack on their Fatherland was key in rallying the people behing Hitler. Even political opponents got behind him under the circumstances. In less than a month, his dictatorship was in place - legally - with the signing of the 'Enabling Act'. All under the threat of terrorism.

Notice any similarities yet...

Common Traits Amongst Fascist States

1.Exuberant Nationalism
2.Enemies Defined
3.Rights Disappear
4.Secrecy Demanded
5.Military Glorified
6.Corporations Shielded
7.Corruption Unchecked
8.Media Controlled
9.Rampant Sexism
10.Intellectual Bullying
11.Militarized Police
12.Stolen Elections

Anything yet...

Do you think the Germans would have believed it?

Robin

Mike,

You actually expect a reasonable response from Puck...?

1.Exuberant Nationalism -- yes! i'm exuberant. why aren't you, moonbat?
2.Enemies Defined -- would you prefer they NOT be defined?
3.Rights Disappear -- oh yeah?! like which ones?! why don't you go to iran, moonbat and we'll see who disappears! ha!
4.Secrecy Demanded -- well, if you demand it, then it can't be much of a secret.
5.Military Glorified -- as well they should be.
6.Corporations Shielded -- the business of america is business.
7.Corruption Unchecked -- not true. there's lots of repuglicans in jail now.
8.Media Controlled -- yes! and by those who SHOULD control it!
9.Rampant Sexism -- what's wrong with sex?! you looney lefty leftist.
10.Intellectual Bullying -- hey, come on now. it's fun to bully intellectuals.
11.Militarized Police -- ha! it's called "military police", you moonbat.
12.Stolen Elections -- oh yeah? if they were stolen, then how come no one's reported them missing?!

Hmmm... so, based on your last two posts, we're (a) heading into becoming a fascist totalitarian regime and/or (b) we're already a Hitlerian dictatorship.

I so glad that you're not a conspiracy nut Robin...

"Hmmm... so, based on your last two posts, we're (a) heading into becoming a fascist totalitarian regime"

duh.
yes, torture is step toward fascism.

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and/or (b) we're already a Hitlerian dictatorship.

so much meaningless hyperbole, so little time.

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I so glad that you're not a conspiracy nut Robin...

believing in (a) does not require one to believe there's a conspiracy to commit (a).

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as usual, resident OW's are sorely in need of a course in remedial critical thinking to remedy your chronic intellectual laziness. turn off the fox propagandists and try to learn how to think for yourself.

as usual, resident OW's are sorely in need of a course in remedial critical thinking to remedy your chronic intellectual laziness. turn off the fox propagandists and try to learn how to think for yourself.

Posted by: Anonymous at November 29, 2006 06:34 PM

This reminds me of a grade school child that knows things are not going well in an arguement. The grade school wording is " yeah, well your stupid".

you are

Sorry, not left, right, or a conspiracy nut...

I simply don't believe everything they tell me. I like to know for myself.

All I did was point out some striking similarities to Germany's slide into dictatorship, and our current situation.

If you can't see it, you don't want to.

How much time do any of you spend doing your own due dilligence?
Let me answer that for you - none.

The news is where most of you get your info.

Anon with the moonbat list..

1.Exuberant Nationalism -- yes! i'm exuberant. why aren't you, moonbat?

I love my country - I am not exuberant about the current government.

2.Enemies Defined -- would you prefer they NOT be defined?

everyone has enemies, but to say "either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists" means if I don't fully agree with my government then I'm a terrorist.

3.Rights Disappear -- oh yeah?! like which ones?! why don't you go to iran, moonbat and we'll see who disappears! ha!

Why don't you read the Patriot Act - moonbat.

4.Secrecy Demanded -- well, if you demand it, then it can't be much of a secret.

???

5.Military Glorified -- as well they should be.

Nothing wrong with a strong military. We're not parading them in the streets yet...

6.Corporations Shielded -- the business of america is business.

I suppose the corruption that is rampant in corporate America is their business as well...

7.Corruption Unchecked -- not true. there's lots of repuglicans in jail now.

Bush isn't.

8.Media Controlled -- yes! and by those who SHOULD control it!

Who do you suppose controls the media?

9.Rampant Sexism -- what's wrong with sex?! you looney lefty leftist.

Sex is great. Sexism isn't. I can't say one way or the other if it's happening here. I presume that IF we slide into dictatorship we'll see more of it...

10.Intellectual Bullying -- hey, come on now. it's fun to bully intellectuals.

Sometimes. I don't want my government or news sources to be run by people who are afraid of a little thinking.

11.Militarized Police -- ha! it's called "military police", you moonbat.

Really? I wrote that down so I'll remember for next time.

12.Stolen Elections -- oh yeah? if they were stolen, then how come no one's reported them missing?!

Cute. You didn't vote for Bush even if you did. The Supreme court stopped a recount and gave Bush the presidency - not the people. Bush won Florida by 537 votes. It is FACT that BARE MINIMUM 20,000 legitimate votes from black, democrat districts in Florida were not counted. That's just ONE glaring FACT of the many that make it really hard to believe Bush won fairly.

Why wasn't it reported? Guess - moonbat.

All I am saying is the similarities are screaming at us. The consequences of not taking it seriously are way too high for me. If I'm wrong - great. If I'm not, then this is only the beginning, and time to do anything about it is running out.

I don't want to wake up one day and think - 'how didn't I see this coming?'

Robin

Robin,

It is also a fact that just as many military votes were not counted as well. Guess what. Good ole Al didn't want to count those or have a full state recount. He only petitioned for 5 counties. You are an absolute freaking moron if you think the election was stolen in 2000. You are also an absolute freaking moron if you minimize the threat of Islamic Extremism while simultaneously hyperventilating over your own supposed oppression and eventual condemnation to subjucation to a fascist leader here in the US.

I know this is hard for you to understand, but the so-called two greatest presidents in American history (Lincoln and FDR) were also the most oppressive. Suspending habeas corpus, imprisoning opposing political leaders, inturnment camps for entire races of people, and of course restricting the press. Stop watching Colbert, Stewart, and Maher and stop confusing skepticism for intelligence. Get a little perspective and take a deep breath and realize who the real threat is. Mulsim extremists and your knee-jerk acquiescence to that threat is much more of an issue than the NSA data mining calls from here to the Middle East.

Crash,

I'm glad you at least injected some intelligent thought...

I'm not excusing what Al did. The fact is a total of 1 million votes went 'missing' from that election nation wide. It's proven.

I'm no democrat either. They both play dirty, and are as crooked as the other.

It's proven that the Supreme Court declared Bush president, not the people.

It's proven that Jeb Bush was the governor of Florida at the time

It's proven that Katherine Harris was in charge of Florida's vote count (she helped stop the recount). She was also co chair of Bush's campaign.

It's proven they were in charge of the felon lists that were over 95% wrong and excluded minimum 20,000 legitimate votes from heavily democrat districts.

It's proven the guy at Fox responsible for the call, (sorry can't think of his name right now) is Jeb and George's cousin. Fox was the station who incorrectly jumped the gun saying Bush had won...

It's proven that U.S Civil Rights Commissioners agree that there are MANY discrepencies in the 2000 election.

Are you kidding me? At the very least you should be concerned with a few minor conflicts of interest...

I DO NOT condone blowing people up to get your point across. I DO NOT condone teaching your children to hate Jews, or Americans... silly...
There is a problem with extremeism - no question.
In case you haven't figured it out yet, throwing a bunch of bombs and troops around hasn't helped at all. In fact you could argue it makes it worse...

"but the so-called two greatest presidents in American history (Lincoln and FDR) were also the most oppressive."

I'm aware of their less admirable traits. Why do we let Bush get away with the same thing then?

Habeus Corpus - How many detainees haven't had access to the outside world only to be released 3 years later without charges... Read the Patriot Act.

Impisoning opposing leaders - Saddam was an ass, but he never touched American soil, and Bush admits he had nothing to do with the war on terror.
quote from Katie Couric interview: Sept 6 06

"You know, one of the hardest parts of my job is to connect Iraq to the war on terror."

Again, when asked what Iraq had to do with the war on terror...

"nothing" - he actually said that...

Internment Camps - heard of Pier 51, or Gitmo, or the multiple secret CIA jails all over europe and the middle east where they tortured people?

Read more than the 9/11 commission report, or than just the news. You want perspective - you hear both sides of a story, then make up your own mind.
That means even reading "al jazeera". I know, I know the terrorists propaganda blah blah blah...
You think America is the only country in the world that doesn't get propagandized?

I get called 'moonbat', 'moron', etc all the time. I can handle it. It's usually from people who refuse to look at the facts...

Robin