everyone check out the last thread. blind rat has lost it!

"Sounds like Keith may have a new home waiting for him when his pink slip arrives."

I'm sure the good folks at Al-Jazeera will welcome him with open arms - he is, after all, in agreement with them.

Hey blindrat

You paint your bald spot?

I wasn't aware that Blindrat ever had "it" to lose.

What is wrong with something counter balancing Faux news ?

When that something avoids news and doesn't deal in facts, there's a problem.

Is Marash an "acolyte" of KO?

"What is wrong with something counter balancing Faux news ?"

You mean, in addition to ABC, CBS, NBC, (P)MSNBC, CNN, the A(wt)P, NYT, etc, etc, etc?

That dawg ain't gonna hunt...

Please...

jdawg-
yeah, I too love it when we point out anything on any part of the MSM and they say it is only counterpoint to fox news...

even if fox news were wholly, deeply conservative in its viewpoint without allowing any other point of view (even moderate -R), people really need 7+ other outlets to balance it?

Scary Uncle,

All I can say is, Fox News must be pretty darn powerful to need so many other outlets to "counter balance" it.

Guess it has to do with all those other channels ratings dropping like rocks when something really balanced comes along.

You wait, tho, the dhimms will be pushing for the 'fairness' doctrine again - you know, the one that says only libs can broadcast....

Jdawg,, oh yeah.. the mainstream media is liberal... I guess that is true to people who think that Faux is not so crooked that it walks with a limp.

"the mainstream media is liberal..."

Thank you for admitting it. (I know that wasn't your intent)

"I guess that is true to people who think that Faux is not so crooked that it walks with a limp.
"

whatever...

For those of us who actually take the time to research such things...

It's been very well documented for many years, going all the way back to the mid 80's. Even the MSM itself admits it's own bias. Marlin Maddux (sp?) wrote a well-footnoted book on the subject called "Free Speech or Propaganda" back in the 80's that was an eye-opener for me. Since then, there have been numerous studies to prove the left-wing bias of much of the MSM.

It's apparent to literally everyone - except, of course, the kool-aid drinkers who refuse to accept anything other than what they are told to accept by their MSM masters...

please someone...post a link to the study that found that prior to the recent election, democrats got favorable stories about 74% of the time and republicans got favorable stories about 12% of the time...for our ol'bud O'lie

Scary Uncle,

Go to newsbusters.org, theres lots of stuff there.

In regards to this al-jazeera thing, there's a good post at hotair.com:

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/15/al-jazeera-english-debuts/

Pretty difficult to find favorable stories about the Republicans these days. When your party's leader lies a nation into a war and acts like a mentally challenged dictator(even the most macho Republican idealogues are truly afraid of these gangsters in the White House), you're gonna get bad press. So go ahead and obsess about a cable newsman who points out the reckless dishonesty of the politicians you support. The right-wing can always dish it out, but apparently it is too cowardly to stand up to the bullies who quite obviously commited treason when they lied us into a war for oil profits and middle eastern military bases. And you haven't the guts to ask the tough questions(unlike right-wing Christian and American hero Alex Jones) about what happened on 9/11 and why, and you've sat back and watched a cowardly boy-president obfuscate, prevaricate and lie about what he knew about those attacks and when he knew it.

Pretty difficult to find favorable stories about the Republicans these days. When your party's leader lies a nation into a war and acts like a mentally challenged dictator(even the most macho Republican idealogues are truly afraid of these gangsters in the White House), you're gonna get bad press. So go ahead and obsess about a cable newsman who points out the reckless dishonesty of the politicians you support. The right-wing can always dish it out, but apparently it is too cowardly to stand up to the bullies who quite obviously commited treason when they lied us into a war for oil profits and middle eastern military bases. And you haven't the guts to ask the tough questions(unlike right-wing Christian and American hero Alex Jones) about what happened on 9/11 and why, and you've sat back and watched a cowardly boy-president obfuscate, prevaricate and lie about what he knew about those attacks and when he knew it.

Pretty difficult to find favorable stories about the Republicans these days. When your party's leader lies a nation into a war and acts like a mentally challenged dictator(even the most macho Republican idealogues are truly afraid of these gangsters in the White House), you're gonna get bad press. So go ahead and obsess about a cable newsman who points out the reckless dishonesty of the politicians you support. The right-wing can always dish it out, but apparently it is too cowardly to stand up to the bullies who quite obviously commited treason when they lied us into a war for oil profits and middle eastern military bases. And you haven't the guts to ask the tough questions(unlike right-wing Christian and American hero Alex Jones) about what happened on 9/11 and why, and you've sat back and watched a cowardly boy-president obfuscate, prevaricate and lie about what he knew about those attacks and when he knew it.

uh, ted, WTF are you on?

I think you need to get your meds adjusted. Quickly.

jdawg--Respectfully, I ask you to watch Terrorstorm on Google video, a documentary created by right-wing Christian journalist Alex Jones. What can it hurt to hear an alternative point of view? The sentiments I expressed are shared by former Reagan and Bush administration officials, former military brass, former fighter pilots, former CIA officials, as well as Daniel Ellsberg, who, as you know, told the truth about Vietnam. Let's work together to determine the facts. Peace.

ted, I don't need to look at your loony conspiracy videos. I've seen all the moonbatty "Bush knew" "it was an inside job" (yada, yada, yada) garbage. I know the truth. It came home to us on 9/11 (unless you think Bush did THAT, too...) and it was done by Islamonazis who have been at war with western civilation since the 7th Century.

Grow up, get a job, get a brain, see reality for what it is. Please.

Rcox,

First I have a feeling you have never watched Al Jazeera and just formulated your opinion from what our press and government says. I know this to be true since you labled Al Jazeera as the "anti-American propaganda organization in the world." Really? I guess you could say then that Fox news is the largest "anti arab propaganda organization in the world." Is that any better? No. AJ has been consistently against the war on Iraq with it's coverage. So? The Amercian people are too. AJ was supportive of our action in Afghanistan. They are also anti al Qaeda. I know you wouldn't believe this with the way our leaders have criticized the network but AJ often has editorials criticizing the tactics and philosohphy of al Qaeda. I have never once seen anything that would be called supportive of any terrorist group. They initially were very critical of Hezbollah when it kidnapped Israeli soldiers. Yes they show the al Qaeda videos. I guess you are too US centric in your world view. Since al Qaeda is more of threat to the arab world than to our own, these videos do matter to the people that live over there so it would make sense they would show them on the network. Yes they have showed dead soldiers. I see footage of dead Iraqi soldiers all the time here. I have used AJ as a way to keep up with news in my family's country. I never once have felt they are anti-amercian and I am a natural born citizen of this country. They often are as critical of other Arab governments as they are with US policy at times. Yes they have a bias for their region but so do the networks here. I for one am happy to see them get an English speaking network and hope in time that cable networks will pick it up but I figure they will have hard time breaking in to an alrady crowded market. Shame on you for mocking people for taking jobs with them just because it is an Arab company.

If they're anti-Al Qaeda, why are the network of choice for Bin Laden video messages? Are you telling me they have no idea who the couriers are that deliver those videos directly to their studios? You make me sick.

jdawg--Respectfully, I again ask you to watch Terrorstorm. You obviously have not seen it. Listen to Paul Craig Roberts, former CIA official Ray McGovern, Daniel Elsberg and others. I make no accusations, but let's work with facts. It is not the Democrats or the liberals who are raising these questions. It is primarily conservatives, miltary and intelligence personnel and the vivtim's families themselves. Peace.

jdawg--Respectfully, I again ask you to watch Terrorstorm. You obviously have not seen it. Listen to Paul Craig Roberts, former CIA official Ray McGovern, Daniel Elsberg and others. I make no accusations, but let's work with facts. It is not the Democrats or the liberals who are raising these questions. It is primarily conservatives, miltary and intelligence personnel and the vivtim's families themselves. Peace.

jdawg--Respectfully, I again ask you to watch Terrorstorm. You obviously have not seen it. Listen to Paul Craig Roberts, former CIA official Ray McGovern, Daniel Elsberg and others. I make no accusations, but let's work with facts. It is not the Democrats or the liberals who are raising these questions. It is primarily conservatives, miltary and intelligence personnel and the victim's families themselves. Peace.

jdawg--Respectfully, I again ask you to watch Terrorstorm. You obviously have not seen it. Listen to Paul Craig Roberts, former CIA official Ray McGovern, Daniel Elsberg and others. I make no accusations, but let's work with facts. It is not the Democrats or the liberals who are raising these questions. It is primarily conservatives, miltary and intelligence personnel and the victim's families themselves. Peace.

Hasan,

You might want to re-read my post because I did not mock people for taking jobs at al Jazeera "just because it is an Arab company" so please climb down off your high camel for a moment and let me respond to your rather inane comment.

As a matter of fact I have watched Al Jazeera. I have also traveled around the world including the Middle East. I take in news and information from many news sources including those outside the United States. Guess what, I am even an EU citizen and have an EU passport. I have friends here and abroad who are Muslims including my youngest daughters best friend; and there family is at my house every week. I have no problem with Arabs or Muslims.

Now, I can't claim to have understood much of the talk on Al Jazeera because it is not broadcast in English. I have watched it at the home of a friend from Morocco who gets in on Satellite dish. I have also seen clips from Al Jazeera translated from time to time. What I do know is that when I ask my friends what they are being told they have a radically different sense of what is happening in the world then I do. For example, during the intifada all they were being shown was the result of Israeli military action without the context that Israel was also being attacked (they would argue they were defending themselves but let's set that aside).

Now, while an anonymous commenter coming to my site claiming to "never once have felt they are anti-amercian" might seem compelling to YOU, it is not much of an argument for me. Next time try some facts and figures.

As for the rest...let me just toss back your own words...

"AJ has been consistently against the war on Iraq with it's coverage"

Brave of you to admit that. It is sort of my point.

"Yes they show the al Qaeda videos"

In fact, they are the preferred media outlet of al Qaeda, no?

"Yes they have showed dead soldiers."

Again, my point. Also they have broadcast hostage tapes of American soldiers.

"They initially were very critical of Hezbollah when it kidnapped Israeli soldiers."

Initially? Sure, right up until Israel took action to get them back. Then it was Hezbollah propaganda 24/7, right?

"I have never once seen anything that would be called supportive of any terrorist group"

Newsflash Einstein, Hezbollah IS a terrorist group so running their propaganda as "news" IS supporting a terrorist group; same with al Qaeda, same with Hamas.

"AJ often has editorials criticizing the tactics and philosophy of al Qaeda"

Yep, and the New York Times has David Brooks on the Op-Ed page. So what?

"al Qaeda is more of threat to the arab world than to our own"

Really? Where do you hail from? I live in New York and was standing on 34th and Broadway watching the Twin Towers collapse, killing 3,000 Americans including friends, neighbors, former classmates and work colleagues. Not sure where you live in the U.S. but I think al Qaeda has killed more people from the New York metropolitan area then they have killed in the entire Middle East since they first came into existence. Around here we think al Qaeda is a pretty big threat so I have not the faintest clue what you are talking about but you better sell this story
walking.

"I see footage of dead Iraqi soldiers all the time here."

Really? All the time? Name the last time and provide details please. For the past three years Iraqi soldiers have been part of the U.S. coalition and I think you are full of it.

Other than I think you make a good point.

jdawg, hanan, and robert cox--Each of you keep the fighting the good fight. But take a look at Terrorstorm, 9/11 Press For Truth, 9/11 Mysteries, Part I, among others. What harm can it do to spend an afternoon hearing what the military, intelligence and scientific communities have to say about the 9/11 attacks and the Bush Administration?

You mean the freaks who believe that the WTC collapses were "planned implosions"? Please. Adjust your tin foil hat sir.

guys--I'm just asking you to listen to what former Reagan and Bush administration officials, former miltary brass and fighter pilots, former CIA officials, along with numerous scientists and scholars, are saying about the 9/11 attacks. There are questions that need to be addressed, and these people I mention are asking them. The 9/11 Commission believes that NORAD personel lied to them. There was a spike in put options on September 7th, suggesting whomever took them out had some kind of prior knowledge. There are many other petinent questions that have been ignored. These are just basic questions. Answer them rather than mock people who have more experience and expertise in these matters than you or I. It is childish to insist that members of the Reagan and Bush admnistration, CIA agents, military brass, the victim's families, Michael Meacher, Daniel Ellsberg, Andreas Von Bulow, Gore Vidal, Paul Craig Roberts, Bob Bowman and others are all part of some vast tin foil hat crowd. These are people who know more about such matters than you or I, and they are asking logical questions.

9/11 was not an "inside job". there is absolutely no evidence that suggest that it was. And the "experts" you site are all nuttier than Olby on his best day and that's really saying something.

I appreciate your passion and loyalty. And if what you say is so clear cut, than it should take no time at all to clear the matter up. But it is Lee Hamilton and Thomas Kean who contend that representatives from NORAD were hiding something when they testified. Even if 9/11 was not an inside job, there are questions that need to be answered. Why are you afraid of this? And whomever took out those put options knew something. Perhaps they were helping fund Al Queda, who knows? Ignoring the questions just adds fuel to speculation of American involvment. Are Hamilton and Kean tin foil hat people, too? Is the 9/11 commission now part of a vast tin foil hat conspiracy? Are all these former miltary and CIA, former Reagan and Bush officials just trying to make George W Bush look bad? That just doesn't make sense. Why would they do that? They would have nothing to gain and everything to lose by taking such a stand. You seem to be afraid to have an adult conversation about this. You protest too much, which suggests you realize these men and women are asking the right questions. I thought it was all bull, too, until I looked at the many documentaries and studied the facts. There is something wrong with the official account of 9/11, and I have a feeling you know this. Peace and God bless you sir.

I appreciate your passion and loyalty. And if what you say is so clear cut, than it should take no time at all to clear the matter up. But it is Lee Hamilton and Thomas Kean who contend that representatives from NORAD were hiding something when they testified. Even if 9/11 was not an inside job, there are questions that need to be answered. Why are you afraid of this? And whomever took out those put options knew something. Perhaps they were helping fund Al Queda, who knows? Ignoring the questions just adds fuel to speculation of American involvment. Are Hamilton and Kean tin foil hat people, too? Is the 9/11 commission now part of a vast tin foil hat conspiracy? Are all these former miltary and CIA, former Reagan and Bush officials just trying to make George W Bush look bad? That just doesn't make sense. Why would they do that? They would have nothing to gain and everything to lose by taking such a stand. You seem to be afraid to have an adult conversation about this. You protest too much, which suggests you realize these men and women are asking the right questions. I thought it was all bull, too, until I looked at the many documentaries and studied the facts. There is something wrong with the official account of 9/11, and I have a feeling you know this. Peace and God bless you sir.

Ted---
I watched your documentary...
I loved the part where Kyle keeps saying "REALLY?!?!?" after Bus admits that he was responsible for the twin tower attack...you and Matt Stone do excellent work

"You have the liberal Marash taking money from Qatar's emir, Sheik Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani, who is funding the new network with over a billion dollars in Middle East oil money..."

Almost makes you wonder why neocons weren't as concerned when Bush was making oil deals with the same folks. Might account for all of those blacked-out areas of the first 9/11 report...

Actually, Ted, you make a good point. We should investigate...

cool now I have a doppleganger too! too bad he can't spell my name right, but oh well!

Hi ConnEr! What side of the aisle are you from?