Right-wing blogs ARE responsible...

They have turned every issue into a life or death struggle, causing the more zealous of them to bomb clinics and discos, bomb federal buildings, punch sixty year old women...etc...

No, Blindrat... nutty people are responsible for their actions. If I read Democraticunderground.com
I may hate rightwingers even more, but all it makes me want to do is to hit ann coulter with a creme pie.

After a while, the average neocon is "immersed" in the propoganda...it amounts to brain-washing...

well... yeah they are mentally challenged but we shuld make them take responsibility for their actions. I mean of course Ann C has made some very violent comments about SC judges, wanting to see the NYT building blown up, and Michelle Malkin posted the e-mail addresses of people who sent her nasty e-mails after she had the experience with the war masters at the school in No Cal..ou know what I think you are right... they are all effingnuts. I sent Malkin an e-mail and she published my e-mail address and I have had an endless supply of spam e-mails since then. However I still like Malkin's lips,,, except when they are flapping.

I have trouble with making them responsible for themselves...after all, aren't they the ones who told us that learning about homosexuality would make our children homosexuals?

Right wing blogs are responsible for the bombing of discos and federal buildings? Really??

And aren't the liberals the same people that tell us that films which portray actors smoking cigarettes would make our children want to smoke cigarettes?

No Robert, liberals are the ones who told us that hearing a provate prayer (or seeing someone read a bible) at school would turn you into a raving fundementalist...

Er, "provate" should be "private" in the above post. (My bad)

No, Robert, psychiatrists told us that movie idols smoking would influence children to smoke. Personally, I don't care if they smoke or not...

JohnE, all we liberals worry about is you fundies harassing our children. There are no laws against bringing a bible to school. Sorry to burst your bubble...

Oh. And what about the ones who told us that violence in video games is not harmful to children (except when the violence is perpetrated against specific ethic groups such as the "get all the Haitians" line in Grand Theft Auto's Vice City. Was that the liberals too?

I can't keep it straight. Do liberals think that children ARE impressionable or not?

Cox,

You are fishing for a black-and-white response...

A logical fallacy...

Will telling children what a homosexual is cause them to become homosexual? No...

It was the neocons who first came out against violent video games.

blindrat,

You put your ignorance on full display thinking that "neocon" is a term that describes people who would have a political position on video games.

As for logical fallacies, I am more interested in my open letter to Keith Olbermann and his logical fallacies.

Cox,

Is displaying a threatening letter from someone who has threatened other public figures a fallacy? I have yet to see an Olbermann fallacy posted on this site...

blindrat....

Back in the big hair days of the 80's I remember a little liberal lady named Tipper promoting a ratings system for music that intended to protect our children from sexually explicit lyrics, violent lyrics and other bad lyrical influences.....to'mato/toma'to.....

Like I already said once today, Hypocrisy is soooo easy to find on the left.

Cox,

I have to admit you have a point there, I incorrectly made a sweeping generalization.

cee,

What does Tipper Gore have to do with video games, child?

And, to the person posting as me, I cannot stop you, so at least watch your spelling...

Here is my mistake. I committed a Relativist Fallacy when I rejected a claim by asserting that the claim might be true for others but is not for me. This sort of "reasoning" has the following form:

Claim X is presented.
Person A asserts that X may be true for others but is not true for him/her.
Therefore A is justified in rejecting X.

But I am still waiting for you to prove I've committed others.

You can sweep away so long as you eventually address the point of my open letter above...

"You have been highly critical of Rush Limabugh and President Bush. About the same time Castagana was sending his letter to you, Michael Lee Braun sent a fake anthrax letter to conservative talk show host Tom Sullivan, a regular guest host on the Rush Limbaugh show. Braun was arrested by the same Joint Terrorism Task Force who caught Castagana and has now been indicted for making threats against President Bush and mailing letters containing an unknown, white powder. By the logic which you now use to accuse Malkin and other right-wing bloggers, aren't you directly responsible for Braun's actions?"

A quote from the Huffpost author:
"When you decide that the way you're going to garner the ratings from the "folks™" and you know what you're saying is not just the freedom to state your case, but to demean your adversaries as destroyers of all we love and hold dear, you'd have to be completely devoid of all reason not to know that your overstatement of imminent danger to our way of life would be a call to arms to Chad and all the other crazies who believe you're looking out for them™ and wouldn't tell them any less than the entire truth."

This could be commentary about Olbermann railing against Bush in his special comments. The overstatement ofimminent danger to our way of life was the whole idea behind one of Kieth's special comments. Olbermann is inciting violence and is an accessory to a crime according to the logic used the writer of the HuffPo article.

Are you talking to me or the pretend me, Cox?...

blindrat...

From NPR All Things Considers (January 11, 2005)

Twenty years ago, Tipper Gore bought a Prince album for her 11-year-old daughter and was astonished at the explicit lyrics they heard when they played it. That incident prompted Gore, wife of then Sen. Al Gore, to go before Congress to urge warning labels for records marketed to children.

Since then, the national debate has extended to content on television, video games and the Internet....

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Also, When the new video football game, Smashmouth Football comes out next month, it is scheduled to have a feature in which players could become paralyzed for life, Underneath Sports has learned.

“It’s totally unnecessary,” said Tipper Gore, wife of former Vice President Al Gore and noted busybody. “The game can show other injuries, such as groin pulls, broken legs and ACL tears, it doesn’t have to show people breaking their necks!”

Noticed that Olbermann responded to the New York Post reporteing about Keith and the anthrax scrare

JohnE, You act as if Tipper Gore were the first and as if she wanted to BAN rock and roll records...

The folks that wanted music banned are, of course, Republicans. A warning label is NOT a ban...

This site has reached a new low. The juvenile, simple minded hateful comments on off topic personal attacks are one thing but stealing my id is another.

What are you all afraid of. The fact I am willing to admit my mistakes proves you all are brainwashed fools. But I too can be blinded by my prejudices. Admittedly the US is probably no better off with the democrats in control. And Keith Olbermann is a reactionist commentator recklessly pursuing ratings. But there might be some truth and good in each.

I am secure enough to admit my faults - are you?

Nice letter... Of course, the guy who sent the powder was a loon acting alone.

To blame it on some right wing hero-worship is absurd.

blindrat... dude, I'm not acting as anything (except in your mind maybe). I was just trying to help you out regarding Tipper.

By the way... someone stealing your ID *is* very lame.

JohnE, I overstepped myself. The republicans did not want to ban music. Who could ban all music? The emotions of these debates must be getting to me.

JohnE,

I'm sure that the identity theft is common, considering the structure of the site...

JohnE, thanks. There is no way we are going to reach concensus if these trolls keep interferring with our only medium of communication.

And in July of this year Ann Coulter said that she sent fake anthrax to the NY Times. So why shouldn't a wingnut who thinks she is a goddess be inspired to follow?

Bob, methinks you are feeling a bit on edge today.

blindrat,

I would not worry about your ID. When we see a comment that makes sense coming from someone using "blindrat" we all know that it is NOT you. So, no need to worry. Continue to rant and rave as usual.

How about banning the trolls?

Shouldn't there be way to register for this site so only accepted and identifed members are permitted to post.

I have no issue with the antagonistic back and forth of competing ideas. And I commend Robert et.al. for the welcoming forum for these open discussions.

But I am the one and only blindrat and I feel sometimes there can be too much freedom in anonimity.

Is it me, or is this Costanzo fellow a little over the top on his worship of Coulter and Malkin? Something seems fishy to me...

Cox,

Apparently, you don't want civil debate on your site. Don't feel bad. You are the same as every other neocon site...

Good luck, son...

blindrat,

I would like to have a better system for commenting. When we had 10-20 comments per post back in the old days it did not matter but when we get 100,200, 300 comments on a post then the whole system bogs down. I've spoken to my web host about alternatives. We are now looking at moving Olbermann Watch off of Movable Type which I do not like too much and trying Drupal. Not sure if that is any better but it can't be much worse.

The bottom line is money. I just don't want to spend money on this site. That is why I tossed up some Amazon links and blogads a few weeks ago. If I can generate some revenue from the site I can justify (to my wife) putting some cash behind OlbyWatch.

Of course, I am also open to donations if anyone wants to write me a big check :-)

blindrat,

If you think posing as me will succeed in scaring me off you are as delusional as the necons you worship.

Try taking a stand for yourself once instead of riding my coattails.

Try to get on Countdown and maybe you could get a check before the interview.

"is this Costanzo fellow a little over the top on his worship of Coulter and Malkin? Something seems fishy to me..."

Yeah, he's a nutcase. Just like the Unabomber. But HE and HE ALONE is responsible for HIS own actions, and HE (and HE alone) should pay the price, not every single person to the right of Nancy Pelosi. My fear is that the left, in typical fashion, will use this act (and others like it) to essentially make conservatism illegal.

Yes, something is very fishy. Can you sense "fairness" doctrine?

Cox,

Don't worry. Not that the election has passed and America begins it long two year slumber again I am sure comments will drop off.

I know, I know, just like Keith's ratings...how predictable the lot of you are.

from blindrat: "Cox, Apparently, you don't want civil debate on your site. Don't feel bad. You are the same as every other neocon site..."

Unlike the civil and highy intellectual discourse at the Daily KOS and DU sites.

Also, regarding "neocon"... (to quote Inigo Montoya from 'The Princess Bride') - "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

I have to agree on this one.... Not specifically Olbermann per se, but the concept, in general, that all conservatives think with one mind.

Since I'm pretty sick of the concept that all Democrats/Liberals/Progressives think with one mind, I have to be open to the idea that there are some differences in the values even among conservatives.

Throughout the last two years specifically, the rhetoric of both the right and the left has gotten ridiculous, to the point that each side is just monitoring the other and sniping every chance they get... Wingnuts, Moonbats, S-Ps, Neocons. This is pointless.

You can be a patriotic American and like liberal causes. You can be a patriotic American and think George W. Bush is our greatest president ever. You can disagree with Republicans/Conservatives/Neocons and still be a respectable, even moral person.

Bottom line, I watch Olbermann, I enjoy him, but I think blaming Malkin, Ingraham and Colter for this nutcase is unfair. They may be conservatives, but I doubt they'd approve of this behavior, any more than Jody Foster approved of John Hinkley.

I have to agree on this one.... Not specifically Olbermann per se, but the concept, in general, that all conservatives think with one mind.

Since I'm pretty sick of the concept that all Democrats/Liberals/Progressives think with one mind, I have to be open to the idea that there are some differences in the values even among conservatives.

Throughout the last two years specifically, the rhetoric of both the right and the left has gotten ridiculous, to the point that each side is just monitoring the other and sniping every chance they get... Wingnuts, Moonbats, S-Ps, Neocons. This is pointless.

You can be a patriotic American and like liberal causes. You can be a patriotic American and think George W. Bush is our greatest president ever. You can disagree with Republicans/Conservatives/Neocons and still be a respectable, even moral person.

Bottom line, I watch Olbermann, I enjoy him, but I think blaming Malkin, Ingraham and Colter for this nutcase is unfair. They may be conservatives, but I doubt they'd approve of this behavior, any more than Jody Foster approved of John Hinkley.

JohnE,

This'll be my last post here, since my pretender is actually posting more than I am...

A neocon is a conservative without conservative values. For example: Prowar, but not enough to join (eg Bush jr, Cheney, Limbaugh etc)...

Another example: For fiscal responsibility, but not for themselves (Reagan, Bush, Bush jr)...

Another example: Anti-drug, except if it is in their interest (Iran/Contra, Bush jr...)

I understand that the CSM had an editorial that professed to define the word; however, the definition has little to do with the Semetic explanation...

blindrat... sorry to see you go. In response to your last post.

So a liberal who is Pro-Abortion would have to have an abortion when they get pregnant?

JohnE,

This is definately my last post. I misspoke again, Bush was in the Air National Guard and Rumsfield flew jets in combat.

I also confused the issue with bringing up the Semetic explanation, that was a obvious ploy to win my point by trying to impress you with the old newsprint folk called a ten cent word.

Neocon has more of a fluid description that varies nearly geographically. In architecture its called venacular form or style.

Good luck to you all losing those blinders...

Bush deserted, dummy. If you disagree, tell us why he was grounded, son...

You may explain it as me, if that makes you feel better...

blindrat,

Who the hell are you talking to?

Blindrat I used to agree with you but you have obviously lost it.

Get some help friend. We need more people like you.

What blindrat smoking? More liberal acid tests?

"So a liberal who is Pro-Abortion would have to have an abortion when they get pregnant?"

Good point.

Apparently, hijacking a poster's name is how you avoid having to address his posts...

jdawg,

It is not "pro-abortion", it is "pro-choice". Therefore, the remark didn't require a response...

Cox,

I don't know what you are trying to pull here but it isn't going to work.

Desperate people and their desperate measures. What else should we expect from this culture of fear?

Just quit now son...

You quit son...

Hey dummy,

Cox knows our IPs...

Pull that crap on somebody else, son...

I am not leaving this forum so either man up and get a new name or quit now son...

Cox,

Do you want your site hijacked by any jackass that comes along?...

I'm seeing double...Pass the Grey Goose please.

It's a lot like that movie, Darkman...

It's like that episode of Star Trek with the Two Spocks...who's the Blind Rat with the Goatee? That's the very bad Blind Rat...very very bad...

So what if he knows our IPs...

I guess you and all the neocon jackboots would love to come in and end free speech.

Hmmmm... seems as though someone has highjacked my name too. (the previous JohnE post was not by me).

I guess kids will be kids... but it would be nice if the mods could do something about it if possible or practical (like banning or calling out the offenders).

So what if he knows our IPs...

I guess you and all the neocon jackboots would love to come in and end free speech...

Please someone take my name !!! Pleeeeze.

Please someone take my name !!! Pleeeeze.

I assure you, Feechie, that I am clean shaven...

Hey, blindrat number 2! Two questions: Explain why Bush was grounded and explain where the name "blindrat" came from, son...

Let's try this. Everyone post as blindrat and get it over with.

I have a headache.

It would be nice to get some sane Olby supporters on the board who are willing to debate the issues. Maybe even KO himself.

Blindrat
Blindrat 2
Son of Blindrat (SOB)
Blindrat in 3D

Just got off the phone with the L.A. Times.

They are running a story next week (scheduled for Monday) on our man Keith. The writer was on her way over to meet with Keith. I suggested she not mention her interviewing me for her piece.

messages to the real blindrat - just come back tomorrow and this guy will lose interest. The more upset you get the worse you make it. That said, you are motivating me to get the commenting issue addressed sooner. Your frustrations are valid and it is my job to get this straightened out.

Thank you Robert.

Good luck Robert... You provide an important forum and I enjoy visiting.

KO has every right to express his constitutionally protected rights and folks like you have every right to call his hand.

Krazy Keith is the host lacking wit
NBC must have heads full of shit
From blue-blogs he'll quote
But ignore the red vote
Uberloon is the orange hypocrite

"I guess you and all the neocon jackboots would love to come in and end free speech"

No, that's what you and the rest of the dhimmicraps want to do.

That dawg ain't gonna hunt.

I am Spartacus

NO! I am Spartacus

blindrat,

I would like to have a better system for commenting. When we had 10-20 comments per post back in the old days it did not matter but when we get 100,200, 300 comments on a post then the whole system bogs down. I've spoken to my web host about alternatives. We are now looking at moving Olbermann Watch off of Movable Type which I do not like too much and trying Drupal. Not sure if that is any better but it can't be much worse.

The bottom line is money. I just don't want to spend money on this site. That is why I tossed up some Amazon links and blogads a few weeks ago. If I can generate some revenue from the site I can justify (to my wife) putting some cash behind OlbyWatch.

Of course, I am also open to donations if anyone wants to write me a big check :-)

Citizen Keith is not going away. May be a worthwhile investment. You certainly have gravitas in the Blogosphere.

Funny how the big-name assasinations over the past few decades (Kennedys MLK) have been liberals targeted. Then we have reich-wing terrorism like OK City fed by the likes of right-wing punduits and christofacsists. Does not take much to add two and two together.

Conservatives = Nazis too lazy to march.

Go ahead and obsess about a cable newsman who points out the reckless dishonesty of the politicians you support. The right-wing can always dish it out, but apparently it is too cowardly to stand up to the bullies who quite obviously commited treason when they lied us into a war for oil profits and middle eastern military bases. And you haven't the guts to ask the tough questions(unlike right-wing Christian and American hero Alex Jones) about what happened on 9/11 and why, and you've sat back and watched a cowardly boy-president obfuscate, prevaricate and lie about what he knew about those attacks and when he knew it.

Go ahead and obsess about a cable newsman who points out the reckless dishonesty of the politicians you support. The right-wing can always dish it out, but apparently it is too cowardly to stand up to the bullies who quite obviously commited treason when they lied us into a war for oil profits and middle eastern military bases. And you haven't the guts to ask the tough questions(unlike right-wing Christian and American hero Alex Jones) about what happened on 9/11 and why, and you've sat back and watched a cowardly boy-president obfuscate, prevaricate and lie about what he knew about those attacks and when he knew it.

It's only a matter of time until KTO mentions this site.

Yes, that makes a lot of sense. Why not toss in Malcolm X?

Setting aside that there was no attempted assassination involved in the Castagana case, the three assassination attempts you mention all took place 40 years ago and you leave out attempts that took place shortly thereafter - on a Presidential candidate (Wallace), two attempts on Ford and one on Reagan. I don't think those guys were liberals.

Unless you are a conspiracy theorist (and why do I suspect that will turn out to be the case?), RFK was killed by Sirhan Sirhan, a Palestinian from Jerusalem so I am not sure how liberal or conservative has much to do with him. JFK was killed by Lee Harvey Oswald, a known Marxist who had lived for two and half years in the Soviet Union. MLK was killed by James Earl Ray, a man of no known political opinions. But in your mind, three assinations carried out 40 years ago plus a nutcase in Woodland Hills, California can be added up to produce the conclusion that conservatives are Nazis who endorece political violence. I am so looking forward to the Democrats being in power with kooks like you on their side.

And the Olbyloons (as Mr. Cox refers) are coming out to feed.

And the Olbyloons (as Mr. Cox refers) are coming out to feed.

"Funny how the big-name assasinations over the past few decades (Kennedys MLK) have been liberals targeted."

I realize that you're probably a regular over at kos, and you've been well indoctrinated by our public screwl system, but have you never heard of (ahem) Ronald Reagan? You _do_ know that some wacko tried to kill him, don't you? And surely you're aware of the lib death-porn/fantasy flick about killing Bush? And the attempts on Gerald Ford? Oh, but I guess since they're Republicans, they probably deserve to die in your twisted mind, eh?

Hard to think after drinking all that kool-aid.

And, BTW, ted, why are you posting the same junk in multiple threads? Can you not cut-and-paste something different?

The KO apologists are out in full force - is it a full moon tonight?

Bob,

You should write a similar letter to Brian Stelter of TVNewser.

I realize that you're probably a regular over at kos, and you've been well indoctrinated by our public screwl system, but have you never heard of (ahem) Ronald Reagan? You _do_ know that some wacko tried to kill him, don't you?

Yep, a attempted assasination by another reich-wing fundamentalist whacko, thanks for proving my point.

Oh yeah, and a fictional movie about a president being assinated does not = killing a leaderin cold blood -nice try

Care to point out a major liberal figurehead calling out for real blood? You can't becasue we are not terrorist scum like you. Right-wingers and fanatical muslims are just two peas in a pod.

Seems you little people are having trouble handling the TRUTH.

The DEMOs slaughtered and disemboweled the GOP in a landslide vote of biblical proportions, with your hero, GWB, throwing Rummy under a moving bus.

And then poor sodden W screamed "DADDY! HELP ME! DADDY!"

Quick game. Name the one Republican who beat a sitting Democrat in Congress.

Trick question, sorry. There are 435 seats in the House and NO REPUBLICAN BEAT A SITTING DEMO.

Not a one.

No wonder Karl Rove is drinking early, heavy and often.

Cheers kids!

Seems you little people are having trouble handling the TRUTH.

The DEMOs slaughtered and disemboweled the GOP in a landslide vote of biblical proportions, with your hero, GWB, throwing Rummy under a moving bus.

And then poor sodden W screamed "DADDY! HELP ME! DADDY!"

Quick game. Name the one Republican who beat a sitting Democrat in Congress.

Trick question, sorry. There are 435 seats in the House and NO REPUBLICAN BEAT A SITTING DEMO.

Not a one.

No wonder Karl Rove is drinking early, heavy and often.

Cheers kids!

"a attempted assasination by another reich-wing fundamentalist whacko, thanks for proving my point."

As usual, you are not only wrong, you are totally ignorant of the facts. Hinckley was found to be insane, and there is no evidence of him being a conservative, or in your warped lexicon, a nazi.

Here is a link to the facts.

http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/hinckley/hinckleytrial.html

Go, read it, if you can, and get educated.

"You can't becasue we are not terrorist scum like you."

Now, you're engaging in fighting words. The fact is, it's the libs and the dems who are being praised by the terrorists, not the conservatives or the republicans.

Not only are you woefully ignorant, you are a freaking moron.

And you can't spell, either. Proof that you're a product of our wonderful public skrewl system.

uh, sid,

WTF are you on about? Why are you so freaking angry? Your guys won, we'll be surrendering to your islamic masters soon and giving the country over to the illegals and we'll all be paying 50% tax rates or more. All so your people can "feel good"

So, why are you so angry? You are getting what you wanted.

Get. A. Life.

"we'll be surrendering to your islamic masters soon"

you can surrender to your masters anytime leave us out of your twisted fantasys.

_My_ fantasy?

Let's see, its the dems who want to cut and run.

It's the dems who want to kill the patriot act.

It's the dems who want to give constitutional rights to terrorists.

It's the dems who want to stop the foriegn surveillance act.

It's the dems who want no border security.

I, sir, madam, or whatever, AM NOT a freaking dem!!

My fantasy????

I envision public hangings for the terrorists and the liberals who side with them.

Better adjust your tinfoil, you're signal from KO is a bit out of phase - like 180 degrees.

Now, you're engaging in fighting words. The fact is, it's the libs and the dems who are being praised by the terrorists, not the conservatives or the republicans.

Uh huh,you all have been the best thing to happen to them since sliced pita bread, their recruitment must be 1000 fold now.

Oh yeah, you all sure scare us, the greatest liberal country in the world destroyed right-wing fanatism in germany once already in the past hundred years, ready for round 2 goosestepping right wing skum?

Thank you for your continued ranting. You just gave me the opening I wanted. YOU are the one who is helping the enemy of the US.

Check this out:

From http://pereiraville.com/scribble/?p=2034

The election results have caused us a bit of a problem here. The Taliban are telling everyone that they are winning the war and that the Americans are cowards because we voted for the peace party. Since the election the Taliban have stepped up their attacks because they believe victory is near. Usually, in November the fighting stops until April, but not this year. You should hear what Al Qada is saying, they released a tape the day after the election in Pakistan telling their supporter, “Soon we will drive the American Satan out, Devil Bush and his henchmen are gone and the weak have taken America over. Now we will take the Jihad (Holy War) to the shores of America, where we will kill the children and wives of the infidels”*** “We vow not to stop until we destroy the White House, even if it takes us a 100 years” “Death to America, Death to the Jews”. Now there is a picture of what we are dealing with. To them this is a religious war and they will not stop until the world turns to Allah. They intend on bringing the war to American. We are going to be at war for a long time, if not here back home.

These bastards bomb schools with kids in them. Every time we mistakenly kill a civilian the news makes us out like animals. These fanatics attack us then grab women and children and continue to shoot at us, who are the real animals? Lately, the Taliban have taken to executing people with college degrees or attending college because they are evil. “All you need to know is in the Koran, so those who study are Zionist trying to make us submit to the will of the Jews”. These people are just crazy, and you can’t reason and negotiate with crazy uneducated, religiously brain-washed people. The distain and hatred they have toward Jews and Christians is unbelievable. There I have to pontificate a little in each newsletter so why stop now. I don’t think people back home realize that even if we pull out this war will not be over, they will just bring it closer to our homes.
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This continues:

Last Tuesday the American public decided to lose the war in Iraq and though they may not have realized it, maybe the war in Afganistan. In doing so, they have delayed the war on terror, not realizing that even if we run away like scared rabbits, the war will continue until they can no longer hide their heads in the sand. Sadly, having voted to withdraw from the enemies homeland, it looks like the fight will be continued on our homeland. Bin laden said something to the effect that Americans can’t take a fight, bloody thier noses a little and they run, he said that back when we ran from Somolia, on election day Americans showed him he was right.
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Go read the whole thing, if you can. Tell me, did you go to a special school to be stupid, or is that just a requirement to join the tin-foil hat brigade?

Get. A. Brain.

Get. A. Job.

Get. Real.

moron.

More fauxnews memo BS trying to find any reason to say the terrorists support the left.

Are you folks stupid or what?

Terrorist reich wing sKKKum, go join up and kill/die with your fanatical buddies in the mideast and make the world a better place.

Anon,

you're an idiot, and I shall not waste any more time on you. Perhaps you'll wake up when the islamists are getting ready to saw your stupid head off.

you're an idiot, and I shall not waste any more time on you. Perhaps you'll wake up when the islamists are getting ready to saw your stupid head off.

More fearmongering, trying to terrorize our own people again huh?

Luckily you cowards are marginalized, now go cry like the terrorized/terroritst bitches you all are.

Blindrat, your an idiot. You use the world neocon to describe everything from people who read blogs all day to people who play video games. You have no idea what the word means. I want you to give me the definition of the word, so I can see how you are fitting it into these situations where it doesn't belong.

I challenge all of us to listen to what former Reagan and Bush administration officials, former military brass and fighter pilots, former CIA officials, along with numerous scientists and scholars, are saying about the 9/11 attacks. There are questions about that day that need to be addressed, and these people I mention are asking them. Some members of the 9/11 Commission believe that NORAD personnel lied to them. Why would NORAD lie? What are they hiding? Also, there was a spike in put options on American and United Airlines on September 7th, suggesting whomever took them out had some kind of prior knowledge of the attacks. Why hasn't the identity of these stock traders been revealed? Perhaps they were helping to fund Al Qaeda, who knows? Why didn't the administration readily admit from the outset that Dick Cheney was at the White House simulating wargames that morning? Why did they lie to us that night and say they'd had no warnings of such an attack? Why did Bush stay at Booker Elementary School for nearly an hour, thereby putting himself and those children in danger? There are many other pertinent questions that have simply been ignored. Just basic questions. Let's answer them rather than mock people who have experience and expertise in these matters. It is childish to insist that members of the Reagan and Bush administration, CIA agents, military brass, the victim's families, Michael Meacher, Daniel Ellsberg, Andreas Von Bulow, Gore Vidal, Paul Craig Roberts, Bob Bowman and countless others are all part of some vast tin foil hat crowd. Respectfully, I ask each of you to watch Terrorstorm on Google Video, a documentary created by right-wing Christian journalist Alex Jones. Watch 9/11 Press For Truth, watch 9/11 Mysteries, Part One, watch Loose Change. What can it hurt to hear alternate points of view? Again, the sentiments I express are shared by former Reagan and Bush administration officials, former military brass, former fighter pilots, former CIA officials, former Pentagon officials. Again, this includes Daniel Ellsberg, who, as we know, told the truth about Vietnam. Let's work together to determine the facts. And if the 9/11 truth movement is so ridiculous, then it should take no time at all to clear the matter up. But remember it is Lee Hamilton and Thomas Keane who contend that representatives from NORAD were hiding something when they testified. Are Hamilton and Keane tin foil hat people, too? Is the 9/11 commission now part of this tin foil hat conspiracy? Are all these former miltary and CIA, former Reagan and Bush officials just trying to make George W Bush look bad? That doesn't make sense. Why would they do that? They would have nothing to gain and everything to lose by taking such a stand. Ignoring these issues just adds fuel to speculation of American involvment. There are those who seem to be afraid to have an adult conversation about this. They protest too much, which suggests they realize something is wrong and don't want to face it. Most are skeptical until they look at the many documentaries and study the facts. Plainly stated, there is something wrong with the official account of 9/11, and polls consistently show that 80% of Americans agree. It's time for a real, courageous, honest investigation into the events of that awful day. Our future well being depends on it. Peace and long life.

no one is suggesting you be intimidated by keith olbermann. but it seems like you ARE intimidated by him, or you wouldn't have created this website. you actually seem afraid of him, and so you attack him personally. he may not have covered the murtha issue the other night, but he will address it if the story has legs. he has and does cover the mistakes he and others with whom he agrees make. you cannot honestly say the same, and you are well aware of it.

If you truly believe that only the individual can be held accountable for terrorist acts, and not those who stir them into zealot rage, then you should (if you have any balance of reason left) ignore the doings of people like bin Laden and Kim Jong Il.

Osama bin Laden can't fly a plane. All he did was stir up the dimwitted folk who can't think for themselves.

Coulter and pals stirred up this moron and he committed a terrorist act.

I don't think Ann is, or should be, held accountable for this guys actions, but I think she bears as much responsibility for this idiot's final actions, as Osama bin Laden bears for the 9/11 attacks.

When do we send the National Guard to bomb her neighborhood back to the Stone Age?

Care to point out a major liberal figurehead calling out for real blood? You can't becasue we are not terrorist scum like you. Right-wingers and fanatical muslims are just two peas in a pod.

Posted by: You killed all our leaders at November 15, 2006 07:54 PM
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How about the most recent Dem VP candidate...your boy KO played his clip last night?

and Ann Coulter is a MAJOR FIGUREHEAD of the party? she is a talking head pundit/author...that equals a major figurehead?

Seems you little people are having trouble handling the TRUTH.

The DEMOs slaughtered and disemboweled the GOP in a landslide vote of biblical proportions
Posted by: Sid Leader at November 15, 2006 08:07 PM
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check out this little historical quote (tip hat to newsbusters.org):

"You said the American people gave very clear orders. I read the transcript of your press conference yesterday and you talked at length of a Republican mandate. But in an off-year election where Republicans won the majority of only a 37 percent turnout, how broad a mandate can you rightfully claim?"
-- Bryant Gumbel to Senator Phil Gramm (R), November 10, 1994.

Now replace the word "Republicans" with "Democrats"; adjust the 37% to 43%(what I belive I heard on CBS); and note that after that 1994 election, the Republicans had a greater majority in both houses than the Democrats won on 11/7/06
(BTW technically, the democrats do not have a majority in the senate, 49-49, it is only because the two people who won as independents say they will caucus with the democrats that the democrats have a "majority")

I am interested in your response, great thanks!

PS:
858am and 910am are me...remember me popped off apparently

"Osama bin Laden can't fly a plane. All he did was stir up the dimwitted folk who can't think for themselves"

Yeah, right, that's all OBL did? No financial help, tactical help, logistical help....the 9/11 terrorists were "freelancers." Those pesky terrorist cells are imaginary.

Hello? The groups formed to advance fundamentalist islam are terrorist ORGANIZATIONS!

Please tell me the terrorist group Ann Coulter has founded so I can join it! (sarcasm)

cee,

We certainly live in interesting times. Good is bad, evil is good, and so on.

In the minds of the LLL, the ends justify the means, and the goal is power for them. If America is destroyed in the process, so what? If good people are slandered and destroyed, so what? If Islamic fanatics kill innocents, so what? All that matters is that Bush and the Republicans are destroyed.

Wonder how they'll feel when the islamonazis come to saw off thier stupid liberal heads? The tinfoil won't protect them from that.

Sid leader, whatever that means, I'm so glad you told me. I thought some of the candidates I supported lost and the dems squeaked into control of the legistative branch with a narrow majority.

Now I learn that I have been slaughtered and disembowelled in landside biblical proportions.

Watching my entrails slide away, I remains sincerely yours,

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

UPDATE: Michelle Malkin is "returning fire" at Hot Air

http://hotair.com/archives/2006/11/17/return-fire-olbermann/

think KO'll mention, much less respond?

Lil' ol' Michelle Malkin gives KO the bitch-slapping he so desperately needs.

I think KO needs to be careful of who he picks on. This time, he picked on someone, well, much better than himself.

Then again, that wouldn't really take much, would it?

Costanzo favors Malkin, and faked an anthrax attack.

So we can conclude that Malkin is culpable, and should be persecuted.

Al Queda has publicly stated it is happy with the Democrats winning the House and Senate, favoring them over a Republicna win, and has performed many actual terrorist attacks.

What does this mean we can conclude, using the same logic?

Or are we no longer using logic?

Only Olbermann could turn himself from Saint Thomas a Beckett into Henry II in one segment of his sitcom.

Olby doctrine is that any terrorism is 'alledged'. Bush's FBI and Homeland Security Dept are tools spreading the fear of a lying Thief in Chief. Bill O was a cowardous, cowering lying syncophant. As an aside, what FBI spokesman speaking where asserted that Bill O was lying and no one informed him of threats made.

What pundit used Rush Limbaugh as target practice? What pundit joked about shooting Cheney in the face? What pundit suggested severing hamstrings ( Bill O as Paris? what was KO thinking).

What pundit leaps in a single bound from may to thuggish, connection, idolizes, hero worship, truculent, troops and finally the denouement ACOLYTES.

I forgot. KO speaks TRUTH TO POWER.

Coward must be proud. Beating up on uppity women surely is an act of courage.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

You really need someone to proof-read before you publish, your piece albeit good, is filled with grammatical and spelling errors.

For instance -

"in order to cast aspersions on bloggers who have a right-of-center political view."

You mean dispersions, don't you?

There are a few other, you should ask either Michelle or LaShawn Barber to proof read for you.

"Please tell me the terrorist group Ann Coulter has founded so I can join it! (sarcasm)"

The terrorist group she belongs to, they all belong to? It's called Feminism. These women are hardly Conservative, where's Coulter and Ingraham's husbands and why is Malkin's husband minding her kids and being a house husband while she works?

Hardly Conservative behavior, we Conservtaive women who have fought Feminism back in the 60s when it reared it's ugly head really don't act like that.

This is why the Republican Party lost, you younger members don't know what real Conservative Values really are. Women in their 40s who haven't married are Fem-Nazis parading around in Conservative clothing, period.

Kate wrote "You really need someone to proof-read before you publish, your piece albeit good, is filled with grammatical and spelling errors...You mean dispersions, don't you?"

As a matter of fact...no. I mean "aspersions" because that is the correct word to use.

Maybe before YOU go around casting "DISpersions" on MY grammar and spelling you might want to start by citing grammacal and spelling errors rather than what you imagine to be MALAPROPISMS.

Here is a link that might help you

http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-cas2.htm

"Cast dispersions is an excellent example of a malapropism: using the wrong word through ignorance."

PS, I don't mind be corrected. I just don't like being corrected by fools.

Kate:

These fine CONSERVATIVE women (Malkin, Coulter and Ingraham), have made personal choices under the freedom CONSERVATIVES value. FEMINISTS (the way I understand the term), degrade choices made by women that do not fit their world view. The feminists devalue mothers and fathers....read some of Coulter's writings about her mother and you'll see your superficial impression of her is WRONGO.

Show me one quote where Malkin et al degraded "traditional" roles....they have not.

You should still get LaShawn Barber to help you, she is a much better writer than you and a good Christian.

"from California was arrested over the weekend. From your making charitable donations on-air, to you "feud" with Bill O'Reilly,"

Don't you mean to say "your "feud" with O'Reilly...

And leave O'Reilly alone, he's a good man. At least he has the brains and brawn to ignore Keith Olberman.

Blindrat wrote…

"JohnE,

This'll be my last post here, since my pretender is actually posting more than I am...

A neocon is a conservative without conservative values. For example: Prowar, but not enough to join (eg Bush jr, Cheney, Limbaugh etc)"

Simple-minded Lefties the world over agree. Say something enough times and the masses will agree with you.

I am a Conservative of the 80s and 90s. I was not born to a Conservative background. I left a pathetically liberal minded family after joining this military, that you of the left seem to hate so. That is except of course when our casualties being reported help your political aspirations. Then you seem to love us.

So by your definition, I am “Neo” Conservative. Admittedly, I am Prowar. Because unlike the lemon-hued bottom side of most liberal’s abdomens, I believe the attacks from 9-11 justified our response and I am not scared taking the fight to the people responsible for the strife our world now faces. Now, you may disagree with treatment of this cancer, but you would be a fool to believe the disease doesn’t exist.

I also left liberalism to escape the notion that if I waited long enough, the government would make my life happen for me. I never looked back on that pitiful existence. The differences between my family and I are as stark as the difference as the aforementioned color of our political bellies. Where my family complains about what the government can do to protect them, I thought I might be a good candidate to help in the endeavor.

Your side’s constant chiding of those who would support me without serving themselves, is a direct attack against my comrades and me. You tell them that unless they served, they don’t have a say in the matter. Yet, you seize every word from the likes of Mr. Olbermann, who has also never served, as if it is the gospel handed down from Moses. Where you call my supporters chicken hawks, I call those of your ilk who would fight for nothing, simply cowards. No play on words, just cowards. And for Mr. Olbermann to castigate those not in a position to serve themselves, is just the height of hypocrisy.

I don’t think anything I ever write on a blog will ever change one liberal mind. I think only more 9-11 will do that. But unlike your prayers being answered with higher October troop casualty numbers, I pray daily that 9-11 never is allowed to happen again. What I write is to bolster those who support us in the military. The lefts whole chicken-hawk argument is a straw man. I know not everyone can serve. Not everyone needs to serve. But everyone should try to support us. Those of you who do are to be commented. The leaders of this administration have supported us, regardless of what the leftist press has reported to you. It is dangerous business, but we have been given the tools we need. I thank them for it and encourage them that my unit is ready and willing for our next deployment. I thank all the Americans who have taken the time to send the little things that they can afford. They are always received in the same spirit in which you’ve sent them. And to the gentle people, whose prayers we hear answered in ours, don’t stop.

"commended" meant to say and...

PS,

Let me pose this question to all of you Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews lovers. Do you think, given your ascertain that bloggers from the right have incited the action of Mr. Castagana; that we in the military may blame the deaths of our comrades on the undeniably one-sided reporting that has come out of their network? If not personally responsible for pulling the trigger, they have given the enemy the impetus to do what they do. They have bolstered and encouraged the enemy with their condemnation of this administration and my military at any cost, while almost apologizing for the murderous behavior of those who would kill us.

"commended" meant to say and...

PS,

Let me pose this question to all of you Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews lovers. Do you think, given your ascertain that bloggers from the right have incited the action of Mr. Castagana; that we in the military may blame the deaths of our comrades on the undeniably one-sided reporting that has come out of their network? If not personally responsible for pulling the trigger, they have given the enemy the impetus to do what they do. They have bolstered and encouraged the enemy with their condemnation of this administration and my military at any cost, while almost apologizing for the murderous behavior of those who would kill us.

"assertion"

Sorry, Senator Kerry "did" warn us about this!

Sorry, about the double post too.

Let me see if I have this right. Ann Coulter is the same as Osama bin Laden?

Yes, I can see that leftist logic. If Ann Coulter had financed, planned, directed training, provided support doing item for item the same as Osama did, the left would have claimed she was far worse than Osama. But the fact that he did even worse than all that, targetting masses of innocents, while she had no operational ties to that guy means to their childish and lazy minds that they were just the same. You can see the laziness of thinking that brought them to that conclusion when they did the opposite of broadbrush demonization, which is called, WHITEWASH of what Osama did. It's easy, it's lazy, and it is dishonest as all h_ll. And if that lazy thinking dishonest person claims that it is what they believe, well then, that makes them a hypocrite too, since Bush believed the stuff he said too, and they claimed he was spreading lies.

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