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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    December 7, 2006
    COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN - DECEMBER 7, 2006

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • BAKER-HAMILTON COMMISSION SCRUTINY: Dana Milbank, Washington Post national political reporter and MSNBC political analyst
    • IRAQ SURRENDER GROUP?: Jonathan Alter, Newsweek Magazine senior editor
    • DRUNK SANTA: Johnny Herlofsky, drunk Santa

    Is Dan Abrams getting worried about his own Edward R Murrow? The promos on A-Mess-NBC for tonight's Hour of Spin focused on, of all things, drunk Santa! He realizes that the tabloid and fluff portion of Countdown gets more viewers than any of the "serious" portions. But the ads were just a bait-and-switch, to lure the unsuspecting masses into watching one of the most virulently despicable spinapaloozas in recent memory. The opening spiel went on as scheduled: "Mister" Bush and Tony Blair, "radicals on the right" in the "hate-based community" attacking Baker and Mary Cheney, the first lady's dress, water on Mars, and, the really important segment, drunk Santa.

    MADMAN

    First up, the Fabulous Baker Boys Commission Report. Decreed Olby:

    "Mister" Bush sounding more stubborn than ever!

    He followed the lead of the blue blogs to cherry-pick some obscure findings in the document, then turned to today's presser. Krazy Keith, in his most sycophantic manner, referenced David Gregory and his "valid and incisive questions". We thought KO was about to soil himself. Then clips from the presser, picking out the most extreme, argumentative inquiries. Misciting the name of a game show (it's "1 vs 100", not "100 to 1"), Monkeymann then ran clips from the Armed Services Committee hearing; the only question showed was from Clinton (D).

    While the video was running, someone told Edward R Olbermann that he got the game show name wrong, which would mean that the entire purpose of mentioning it (plugging an NBC product) would have been lost. So he referenced it again while bringing on Dana Milbank, denied dashing duds. Rule #1 was invoked, with Olby picking on the Prez for saying progress hasn't been as rapid as he would like. Therefore all his political opponents will hit him over the head with it. DM stammered that Bush is "very anxious" about all this. Bush joked to Lawrence Eagleburger: "Where's my drink?" Olbermoronn, ever the slovenly political hack, took his cheap shot:

    How come he's the guy going through the 12 steps, though, when it's the, uh, it's the grief of the, uh, of the military families?

    He banged his papers on the desk as he spoke to give his smarmy aside additional "resonance". Then he opined that "Mister" Bush had better really make a big change in tactics or it will be a "half-baked whitewashing". Olby said the reporting of casualties is "reminiscent of VietNam", . Dana said "untruths have undermined his credibility". KO complained that the Democrats are "too passive". And a good time was had by all, evidenced by Citizen Keith's great thanksing of DM.

    Then it was on to "slime" from the "rabid right". When has Keith Olbermann ever complained about slime from the "rabid left"? How about...never? Rev Olbermann was on his high horse about a headline in Rupert Murdoch's New York Post, which gave him a chance to bring up...what? Think hard, now. OK, your time is up. Yes, Mr Humility once again brought up the story of his fake anthrax letter to again slime the New York Post for reporting news. It's tonight's installment of Attack the Media! The eeevil Murdoch, after all, "bankrolls" Bill O'Reilly, so let's bring up the latest attack on Mr Bill again! (Not that Krazy Keith is obsessed, mind you, but he even brought it up on his radio show today, where he embellished the story with the lie that O'Reilly said the "best" outcome in Iraq would be for everyone to kill each other.)

    The meat of Olbermann's objections are a prime exemplification of OlbySpin. He has repeatedly cited people like Wesley Clark, Gen Eaton, and other military types on Countdown, always spelling out their military background and credentials. Because he agrees with what they say. Now Fat Ass Olbermann is up in arms about a column in today's New York Post, which he described simply as written "by a columnist named Ralph Peters". Actually Lt Col Peters is a retired US Army Officer who spent nearly two decades in this country's service, which is nearly two decades more than Citizen Keith. Olbermann didn't tell you that. But we did.

    In a perversely illogical argument, KO cited Tony Snow as proof that the White House is in sync with most of the report (even running again the clip of Gregory vs Snow). Why is this illogical? Because just a few weeks ago, Edward R Olbermann was lecturing all of OlbyPlanet about dissent, about speaking truth to power, about disagreeing with the government. Now he's attacking "right-wing slime" for dissenting and disagreeing with the government? Don't try to figure it out. It's OlbyLogic.

    Back to where we left off: KO attacked Fox because someone expressed criticism of David Gregory, and went after Rush Limbaugh for reading a listener's email and daring to criticize the Fabulous Baker Boys Commission. Wait a minute, wasn't it just yesterday that Olby was dismissing the FBBCR as all but meaningless? Why yes it was, but when the eeevil conservatives go after someone, Olbermoronn will condemn them even if it means he has to do an instant volte-face. He brought in lefty Alter to pile on. They're the "far radical right", Fox is a "wholly owned subsidiary of the White House", yada yada yada. If Keith "Man on Fan" Olbermann wants an example of rabid hate, this repellent exhibition exemplified it. But he wasn't done drooling his contempt all over the Countdown set. There was more to come.

    After bragging that George Clooney watches Countdown (figures), Herr Olbermann turned his venom on several critics who didn't like the idea of Mary Cheney raising a child in a home with no father. Of course, Olby can't spew hate if there isn't someone to parrot his loathing, so who better than Sam Sader, from the bankrupt Air America? He likes to see "right-wingers heads explode", then said the right-wing's "heads are imploding". OK. Self-loathing, gay-hating, virulent, hypocritical conservatives. He agreed with KO that the eeevil right has a "litmus test", and that's why Giuliani's candidacy is "dead on arrival". Right. That's why the latest poll of Republicans shows Rudy in first place. Dolt.

    #2: Life on Mars (recycled video from NBC), Britney Spears, Oprah Winfrey, and Cruise News! #1: Drunken Santa from YouTube. In the Media Matters Minute, the discredited sports guy went after John McCain (R). What happened to the O'Reilly attack? Oh, he covered that with Alter.

    OLBY

    Taciturn terriers: What does Krazy Keith have against Bill Richardson? The guy says he's running for President and KO blue-pencils the story. For the second day, Mr Merkle ignored Senate testimony by distinguished experts about how the media have misrepresented the science of climate change. There was no "worst person" nomination for Miles O'Brien, who was so disinterested in the hearings that he fell asleep--Edward R Olbermann would have to report that the hearings took place. Can't have that. Jimmy Carter is caught falsifying and plagiarizing. Since it's not Ann Coulter, you know that will never see the light of day on OlbyPlanet. Finally, we would be most remiss if we didn't point out that KO still refuses to tell his viewers how Jack Abramoff has pointed the finger of corruption at none other than Sen Harry Reid.

    NAME

    Olbermann's book The book that bears Olberman's name is down to #472 at amazon, while Mr Bill's "Culture Warrior" is #22. The OlbyTome continues to struggle at Barnes & Noble where it sunk to #1,651, but O'Reilly's book is #18. And Mr Bill's literary triumph is still #3 on the New York Times Best Sellers list and on Nielsen's BookScan. Wednesday night found our favorite slovenly political hack in third place. But of course, Keith will tell you that the only important number is the critical, beloved, all-important, coveted "key demo". And in that category, he finished in a humiliating fourth place: behind The Factor, Nancy Grace, and a rerun of Deal or No Deal. Tonight's MisterMeter reading: 3 [GUARDED]


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    The Steelers-Browns game is on. Thank goodness J$ will recap the show so we don't have to miss one minute of smashmouth football. Johnny, you're the best!

    Milbank has his prick suit on.

    Olby is going to stick up for cheney's pregnant lesbian daughter....new levels of deplorable.

    Smashmouth football or mushmouth Olby - you decide.

    The NY Post...the most well read paper in NY is now "the fringe"...Olby has taken leave of his senses.

    Citizen Keith at his finest...slamming Murdoch now.

    Yes, the most well-read paper in NY is on Olby's shit list. You see they printed details of his short-comings (and not coming) in the bedroom. Not to mention what a wuss he was after his soap flake scare. I knew there was a reason why I liked the NY Post.

    "Surrender Monkey"...thats a new one!

    He just asked Alter if the folks at FNC were "too scared to do adversarial journalism". This from the guy who still refuses to invite anyone on the show who disagrees with him. Nope, no hypocrisy here.

    Actually, the phrase "cheese-eating surrender monkey" has been used by Olby to describe himself.

    Perfect - Olby the green man describing possible life on Mars.

    Hey, remember according to Olby, and the rest of the knuckleheads on the left, "adversarial journalism" means attacking people who the left doesn't agree with.

    If you ask intellegent, but probing, questions to ALL your guests... including democrats... than as Chris Wallace found out, you're just a "monkey" for the White House and therefore eeeeeeevil.

    This stuff is priceless. In his love-fest with Sedar they attacked conservatives who oppose gay marriage. KO worked in a reference to Fred Phelps, the guy in Kansas whose church members protest at military funerals.

    What numbnuts neglected to mention is that Phelps is a longtime Democrat who has blasted BillO as a "Hell-bound blaspheming hypocrite," and "a demon-possessed messenger of Satan."

    I sense the official mascot of Media Matters will be giving a "special comment" soon.

    He's taking on water fast.

    And we all know what Howard Beale, Jr. does when things start to go bad.

    DARN YOU "ANONYMOUS"... DARN YOU AND YOUR ACCURSED "REMEMBERING THE FACTS" AND "QUOTING SOURCES!"

    YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED!

    When Olbermann says he wants more "adversarial journalism"... he doesn't mean HIM! You're just supposed to accept that!

    Facts and truth have no business in King Olbermann's Court! Next time, REMEMBER THAT!

    Tonights show upset me tremendously.....Krazy Keith was green again.....lol!

    At one point Sader tried to make a funny. He made a reference to Mary Cheney and the hormonal mood swings of an expectant mother. Why am I pretty sure that if BillO had made such a comment he would be denounced as a misogynist and named the WPITW?

    Olby spewed this....Sader made a funny, LOL....If Billo said such a thing....krazy Keith sure was green....numbnuts didn't mention....yayayaya yak, yak, yak, heh heh heh Olbyloon's are stupid yadayadayadayakyakyak..............................................................................................................................
    Sounds just like my Grandmother's gossip party!

    "Sounds just like my Grandmother's gossip party!"

    Yeah, but you HAVE to attend your Grandmother's party.

    Why are you freely coming here?

    Let me guess: not the smartest member of the family, right?

    Today on the Dan Patrick Show, there was some discussion over the rumor that Barry Bonds might be signing with the Cardinals. Keith took this opportunity to point out that Bonds would be linked with Albert Pujols since he would bat behind him in the lineup, then again brought up the rumors that Pujols was linked to steroid use over the summer.

    Keith apparently can't let that one go.

    I guess he owes Al another apology. Put it on his tab.

    I just checked the Jawa Report and read the blog of a sergeant giving his opinion on the Baker report. (There is an excerpt with a link to his blog). It makes me want to scream at Olby. Does he ever read anything that our troops say? They are more qualified than anyone to speak to the issue.

    Hate Ollie North if you will, but he was again on Hannity and Colmes reporting from Ramadi. I find him credible because he is right there with the marines. I find it amazing that the morale seems to be what it is. Two people whom I highly respect (one more than the other), Pat Buchanon and the late Pope John Paul II, were against the war, for different reasons. I can see what a mess it is but why can't victory still be an option when the men and women serving still believe? Olby has done nothing constructive for America, even if he does bring a different viewpoint. All the talk about conservatives against gay rights as a cover for their own secret gay feelings really ignores his own personality disorder. Olby seems quite content that the whole Middle East will probably blow up (which is what will happen with a quick withdrawal). Just so he can make his stupid jokes. AT least when you listen to Arianna Huffington, she seems concerned about the outcome. Of course, he has to pretend outrage for the troops. How often has he personally covered a story involving men and women actively serving?

    Ass kissers.

    What Olbermann and his lackey Alter didn't tell their viewrs was that the email Limbaugh read from his listener was criticizing the Surrender Commision for it's call to appease the Islamo-Fascists of Iran and Syria and sacrificing Iraq, Lebanon and Israel to the new Caliphate. Of course the Left would love this since their Islamic liberators can then turn their guns on Europe and then come free them their evil capitalist Christian oppressors in America.

    What the pro-Islamic media doesn't tell us is that James Baker is a hack of Saudi Arabia. His law firm represents the interests of the Saudis here in America. So of course his recomendation is to sacrifice Israel to thw Caliphate like a good Dhimmi.

    Hey Lefties any take on this?

    Red Wolf,

    The lefties aren't here right now. They took their wives to the berka shop to get them fitted.

    Remember, James Baker, when Bush 41 was in the White House, said something along the lines of "f--- the Jews, they didn't vote for us". A real class act.

    Yes, I forgot to mention that too. I bet Baker is Muslim. Either that or he's a good Dhimmi. He's an ati-Semitic jerk. Why is he taken serious? He's only barely a step above David Duke. Why are Jewish liberals praising this guy?
    He's an enemy where the ADL?

    Yes, I forgot to mention that too. I bet Baker is Muslim. Either that or he's a good Dhimmi. He's an ati-Semitic jerk. Why is he taken serious? He's only barely a step above David Duke. Why are Jewish liberals praising this guy?
    He's an enemy where the ADL?

    "His law firm represents the interests of the Saudis here in America. So of course his recomendation is to sacrifice Israel to thw Caliphate like a good Dhimmi."

    Why the hell would the Saudis want that? The U.S. props up the Royal Family with the oil money, and the Royal Family would be gone in a millisecond if Radical Islam took over. It's in their own self-interest to keep Radical Islam suppressed.

    To 'Rico': You got the quote essentially correct, only the last sentence was more like, "They didn't vote for us anyway." It also should be noted (though of course Olber{thehill}mann won't) that James "F***-the-Jews" Baker's law firm, Baker Botts, has offices in Saudi Arabia and Dubai (as in Dubai Ports), thus those who put two and two together can figure out the rest - this, besides what 'Red Wolf' has duly noted.

    And K.O. (a rather apropos set of initials - in terms of him being the one 'K.O.'d' in the bestselling book lists and TV ratings) is hardly the only one to call the President 'Mr. Bush,' though I'd agree with him it's excessively condescending and insulting. On the other side of the political spectrum, Michael Savage (a repeated "WPITW" entrant) uses the appellation whenever rhetorically 'questioning' the President on such matters as his support for amnesty in the immigration issue or his efforts to push Dubai Ports deals. For that matter, the trained Ph.D. turned radio talk show host referred to James Baker tonight as "Mr. Baker" (and was very pointed about it) when he rhetorically "asked" him some questions relating to the Mideast strife.

    Anonymous,
    like atypical Leftist you keep defending Radical Islam. The Saudis are radical muslims. They're a Sunni version of Iran. They oppress women, don't allow other religions and kill gays. Is this the type of people the Left likes as allies. People how stand against what you guys stand for?
    Why does the Left also always stick up for the Facsist in Iran. A regime that has openly called for genocide of Israelis?
    I don't understand. I'm convinced Michael Savage is right!
    Liberalism is a mental disorder!

    Johnny D outdid himself tonight.

    Monkeymann was in rare form tonight, even without special comment.

    He was extra deplorable. He biggie-sized himself tonight. Dana Milbank remains an irrelevant one trick pony.

    Pat Buchanan ripped into Huffington on Scarborough country. It was fun to watch.

    Phil Bronstein was actually making sense, I kind of like him.

    David Gregory still insists on BEING the news.
    He's deplorable as well.

    Olbermann distorted what the Right was upset with the Surrender commision about. We're mad at the fact the Baker wants to sacrifice Israel to make the Fascists in Iran happy!

    Olbermann distorted what the Right was upset with the Surrender commision about. We're mad at the fact the Baker wants to sacrifice Israel to make the Fascists in Iran happy!

    Anybody know where to find video of tonight's NY Post segment and the Worst Person segmant? Thanks

    Olby must have some "smackdown fans" in his key, coveted demographic. He found humor in showing the drunk Santa falling close to 100 times. This man cracked his rib and whiplashed his head.

    Olbermann is just a hack for Muslims. If his praise of the Baker report doesn't prove it. I don't know what will.

    I notice a silence from Lefties tonight. Come on defend James "I hate Jews" Baker and his cowtowing to Iran?

    I hear crickets!

    Red Wolf,

    Yes, it is true that liberalism is a mental disorder. But the term "mental disorder" is kind of vague. It's like saying somebody has "cancer". Well, just by coincidence I have come up with the precise diagnosis, and I am putting it all down in a book. When it is published, it will cause millions of leftists to commit mass suicide. That will be a happy day indeed! As long as they are alive, they continue trying to get us all killed, so I am writing as fast as I can. I am trying to save our lives.

    do you ko sheep ever get tired of the same guests over and over again. milbank,wolfe,alter sorry he got his health care in the USA. ko to cnn for zahn my first new year prediction. keep up the good work so we don't have to watch J$. oh yeah all you sheep go to HELL.

    even the left is tired of KO

    Rico,
    If you make this book and Leftists read it. Before they commit suicide, they might convert to Islam and do suicide bombings!

    Red Wolf,

    They're already Islam's bitches.

    Rico between us and Granny we've dealt the left a massive defeat here. hey you really want to go at it with Leftists, Marxists and Islam-lovers. Go to
    Http//:www.thinkprogress.org

    They're nuts overthere!

    Hey there! Your johnny dollar sumation of today's Countdown went missing something --- Keith Olbermann said that since Rudolph Giuliani was not for heterosexuality, he said that Guiliani maybe needs to throw chairs to get get the attention of conservatives!!! LOL! Is that a good consellation prize for not being against homosexuality?!?!?

    Olbermann Watch [Us Bicker],
    What's your opinion of known anti-semite James Baker's plan to sell Israel out to Iran and Syria?

    Olbermann Watch [Us Bicker],
    What's your opinion of known anti-semite James Baker's plan to sell Israel out to Iran and Syria?

    Red Wolf: Actually... I am already aware of the IOraq study group being infiltrated with unrelated Israel/Palastine submissions... I heard that the phrase "right to return" was found within the finished product of the report. Of course, I dismiss the Baker commission. There is no way that you can have a bipartisan solution to htese problems. Not in any way can you get anything the size of the Baker/Simpson commission that can solve this problem. I regaurd this as entertaining but not successful (like this site ;-) )

    Red Wolf,

    James Baker was with Bush 41 in 1991 when they stopped the ground war after 100 hours. I was apoplectic. I kept shouting into the TV "Don't stop now you idiots! Keep going!" But nobody listened. If they had finished the job in 1991 there would have been no need for Operation Iraqi Freedom in 2003. Damn, I hate it when I'm right.

    Olbermann Watch [Us Bicker],
    OK you seem reasonable answer this to me. Why does your fellow Leftists always stand up and defend the Iranian regime, but always attack Israel?

    Rico,
    I felt the same way.

    I answered your question --- you answer mine ... did you catch Keith Olbermann on Giliani? :-)

    Olbermann Watch [Us Bicker],
    Olbermann and the Leftists hope Guilliani doesn't get the Republican nomination. They know he'll take the gloves off on Hillary and he neutralizes the Dems on social issues. The Left dreads him.

    Olbermann Watch [Us Bicker],
    Olbermann and the Leftists hope Guilliani doesn't get the Republican nomination. They know he'll take the gloves off on Hillary and he neutralizes the Dems on social issues. The Left dreads him.

    Olbermann Watch [Us Bicker],
    Olbermann and the Leftists hope Guilliani doesn't get the Republican nomination. They know he'll take the gloves off on Hillary and he neutralizes the Dems on social issues. The Left dreads him.

    An entire blog devoted to some guy's cable show? Why don't you just ask him out on a date?

    What's next? A "Wayne's World" blog?

    I'm sure you WILL find plenty of leftie nuts at thinkprogress, but there seem to be a few right wing nuts right here!

    Damn, what twisted minds you guys have - It's like that mentally deranged nut, Michael Savage x 10 - I never would have believed it, but here you are!

    Left wing nuts or right wing nuts, it doesn't matter: Both are a scorge on America!

    So Rico; So you shouted at your TV and NOBODY listened? I just can't believe that. When I shout at my TV, everyone jumps!

    Olbermann is the ONLY opposition based show on tv, and still, that is too much for you morons to take. You love to question keith's facts and opinions, but you take everything Rush and all the repug. rumpswabs say as gospel. Perhaps someday you can have your perfect, ass kissing, sycophantic, yes-man type of world, but hopefully not in your , or my, lifetime, you Un-American douchebags.

    Hang all these right wing facists, hang 'em high.

    They lost the Iraq war.

    I agree! Keith Olbermann sucks and it's our duty to watch him night after night to make sure we know why he's such a bad anchor for questioning our Dear Leader!

    Remember, 8 pm. Eastern Standard Time on MSNBC!

    The hate-filled reaction to Mary Cheney's announcement knows NO ideology.....

    http://blessed.cf.huffingtonpost.com/

    Olbermann and Seder overlooked their political side's manipulation of the announcment by using it as an issue (like the link above). The private decisions of Ms. Cheney are not the property of the left. People can have an opinion and may voice it, however, it is wrong to go into full media mode with commentators, photoshop pics (like the link above), and jokes about pregnancy hormones.

    I may have an opinion about families that do not have an involved biological father (or mother)... but the Cheney family also deserves their privacy AND respect and I hope people would remember that as well.

    Olbermann simply sees Mary Cheney as a good source for a story to fill 8.5 minutes of COUNTDOWN airtime....HE IS SLIMY!

    BTW gents, this far-rightie considers Giuliani a very likely choice in the Republican primary.

    You see, Mr. Giuliani may have personal beliefs that do not agree with mine, however, he also has a view of our federal governance more in line with my thinking....especially with the judiciary and the role of The Supreme Court. He is a conservative and he deserves my evaluation as a registered Republican.

    Plus, I know it would frost the liberals if Giuliani attained the Republican nomination for President....2008 here we come!

    Did Olbermann or Seder actually say Giuliani's candidacy is "dead on arrival"? They are really politically tone deaf if they actually believe that!

    I used to support John McCain and voted for him in the 2000 Republican primary in Connecticut.

    Now, I think he is too old and, more importantly, he should have supported killing the filibuster (the "nuclear" or "constitutional" option) on judicial appointments (especially now that the Senate is under Democratic control). Not supporting Bush with regards to his court appointments and not allowing them to come to a full Senate vote as The Constitution requires was wrong and makes him persona non grata to me. I think many Christian conservatives feel the same way about McCain now....especially after the 2006 election and change in the congress.

    The other potential candidates are not as well known to me....we'll see....But Giuliani is a front runner now....even among some evangelicals, like myself. The pseudojournalist Olbermann should do some research before he agrees with the liberal shill from AIR AMERICA.

    olby always pimps for the sexual degenerates- he must pander to his base.

    Olbermann is the ONLY opposition based show on tv, and still, that is too much for you morons to take. You love to question keith's facts and opinions, but you take everything Rush and all the repug. rumpswabs say as gospel. Perhaps someday you can have your perfect, ass kissing, sycophantic, yes-man type of world, but hopefully not in your , or my, lifetime, you Un-American douchebags.

    So you aren't disputing that Keith is bends stories to fit his agenda, has only Democratic guests on to comment, and should not be considered a journalist, Felch? I'm not sure how Limbaugh is relevant to this discussion: Rush doesn't claim that he is politically neutral, nor does he claim that his show is a "news program".

    "Hang all these right wing facists, hang 'em high.

    They lost the Iraq war."


    Actually, sorry to tell you, they won their war. They have violently liberated the US citizenry of over 300 billion dollars which we brainlessly shoveled to their military industrial cartel in return for NOTHING - nothing except for 3000 dead soldiers and the promise of more trouble and more war in he furure.

    Bush and his henchmen never tried to "win" this objectiveless war - every step they've taken has ensured the continuation of this profitable sitation. How many of the drowning rats here at Olbermannwatch are profiting as well? Very few, I would suspect. Pathetic mental slavery or venal mercenary extortion; those are the two rolls available for actors on the right.

    --Hadley said on Sunday that the Iraqi Army on which he claims our early plans for success depended just "melted away" in 2003 - well sure; if you call an official announcement and order of disbandment by Paul Bremmer "melting away".

    --They ORDERED our troops on the ground to leave Saddam's weapons depots unguarded; arming the insurgency for years to come. Then they blamed the troops!

    --Are you aware that the Baker Commission has reported that there are only SIX individuals in the US Green Zone complex that speak fluent Arabic? They don't care about winning hearts and minds - they just want our money with no questions asked!

    --Moqtada al Sadr was manufactured as a Shi'ite enemy to the US when Bremmer closed his newspaper and forced his hand against us - you can't have a internecine chaos with only one ethnic group angry and at arms now, can you?

    Wake up, idiots!

    That's right, Tofutti!

    We !@#$% neocons managed to take all of your money and give it to the military industrial complex so the cabal-like (not cartel) owners of the complex (all 33 of them-its a mystical number thing) could up their bank accounts by half while lowering yours by half. We are also grateful the insurgents we hired secretly were available on short notice to come into the amories we left the doors open to. al Sadr was born in Toledo and was trained for years in the secret Nevada desert base to become a leader of insurgents and their motuhpiece. This all happened because most of you are too stupid to understand why Bush had Condi get those "packages" delivered to the World Trade Center over the Labor Day holiday 2001.

    I am sending you some of my home made Kool Aid for Christmas, Tofutti...please ignore the property of Jim Jones label on the cap...

    Next you'll be telling us how W and Blair got to a secret compound in the woods and worship a giant ManBearPig!

    Seriously Tofu...I begged you to get back on your meds, but you just wouldn't listen...beware of silent black choppers!

    Never saw this site before. After reading alot of it I still watch and like Countdown.

    Kurt:

    I am sure there is some truth to what you say, but there is a lot of liberal wishful thinking spread throughout your post. "Dead in the water," is an overstatement.

    We will see after Giuliani's fund raising event in a couple of weeks. Already however, many of Bush's Texas donors (a demographic similar to your golf buddies) from 2000 are putting their huge bucks behind Rudy....

    Thomas Hicksan
    Bill Simon
    T Boone Pickens

    Also, with the congress being D, the rank and file GOP will look at The White House in 2008 as critical. If Giuliani can do what Bush did in 2000 and seem unbeatable in the general election, many will be happy to support him.

    He is almost identical to conservatives with regards to foreign policy, war on terror, unwavering supporter of Israel, and a hawk. The social issues will not be overlooked, but Giuliani is a pretty masterful politician and will be capable of navigating these obstacles.

    Also, if he can gather support from mid Atlantic blue states like NJ (going to possibly be moving the primary forward), he may be in a good position to be seen as the inevitable winner in the primaries. The south will follow.

    Fred Bear,

    Your sarcasm suggests that you have no inclination whatsoever to question what is being done with your money. "Conspiracy theories" are fine and all, but I'm taliking about a simplistic bait-and-switch swindle that we've allowed to proceed right under our noses. Can't you force yourself to ask: what is being done with all my money?" Can you name anything that has been effectively purchaced to our benefit for our $300 billion?

    Why do you people insist that this executive branch must be allowed to opperate completely without oversight or responsiblity? Why don't you accept that a grown-up nation should afford such expenditures of lives and money at least the same amount of scrutiny that is regularly insisted on for every local dog-catcher in the country?

    You are a world-class rube.

    ...and Fred,

    Is it my suggestion of the term "Military Industrial Complex" that set you off on your reactionary sarcasm? Such pedantic disdain is the typical response by which right-wing drones respond to discussions of the MIC.

    But do you know from where that term entered the American lexicon?

    DrFelch said "...not in your , or my, lifetime, you Un-American douchebags."

    I can't believe you're questioning my patriotism DrFelch! Un-American???? I'll have you know I'm a 100% all-american douchebag (and don't you forget it)!

    "Olby is going to stick up for cheney's pregnant lesbian daughter....new levels of deplorable."

    Keith exposed the right wing's hypocrisy on gay marriage and their treatment of gays.
    Very well done Keith !

    The word HYPOCRISY is such an enigma to the right !

    What is Andra Mitchell doing at MSNBC, reading news from the Teleprompter? They are running out of staff to read news.

    I have a problem MSNBC keeps asking this quesiton, "Are we ready for a black president?", they are talking about Obama. Why can't they say it nicely, African American President, does it sound a whole lot better? We are all Americans, we are all equal under the Consitution, please do not distiniguish us by the color of our skin. It looks like MSNBC/NBC are having problem with a "black predient" but not a "woman president". It sounds like to me they want to pick a president for us.

    Note: Indian Americans are not the same as American Indians.

    Bear,

    Hearings are coming next year for Halliburton, Custer-Battles, Blackwater etc; make no mistake. The equivocating DLC will not win the struggle for the integrity of new majority party. The incestuous links - often lacking a single degree of separation - between these favored companies and major policy-setters in this administration will be scrutinized and exposed.

    I wonder what your jokes will sound like then? Will you continue to babble in sarcastic condescension, or will you just shut up and watch your leaders' sequential iron-clad indictments?

    Jonathan Alter hit the nail on the head last night when he said that now that the right sees that everything they've been saying about the Iraq War HAS BEEN WRONG,the only thing left for them to do is to lash out in anger.

    I also find it hysterical that the more we hear of retired generals and right wingers like Ed Meese and Jim Baker say what a disaster this war has been,the more to the waaaaayyy right they have to go to find someone to agree with them in their dogma on Iraq.

    When the left,center and right agree what a catastrophe the Bush Administration has made of this war it really isolates all the chickenhawks and mentally deranged,the ones who keep insisting to push on, and stay the course, into one neat little pile of morons.

    Party over country is their battle cry !
    Damn reality and the facts !

    There was a great song written during the Vietnam War that totally applies here:
    "Waist deep in the Big Muddy, the big fool says to push on !"

    Bob, keep building the strawmen brother... they're much easier to knock down than an accurate recital of conservative views.

    Your Bush Derangement Syndrome slip is showing. ;-)

    I see hypocrites on both sides of the Cheney-lesbian-daughter-pregnant equation. Yeah, Bush-Cheney have opposed gay rights legislation. But Olbermann & the liberal crew have championed them, until of course, Cheney's lesbian daughter got knocked up and then it was a subject of jokes and derison for them. So who is really being more hypocritical here? Tie-contest as far as I can tell. But perhaps Olby is flashing back to his days on-air in Los Angeles as a local sportscaster where he frequently made jokes against gays on-air. Once a gay-basher, always a gay-basher.

    Pete Seeger! A great American patriot.

    Bob, your post is brilliant in its clarity - these drowning rats are desperate,

    John E wrote: "Bob, keep building the strawmen brother... they're much easier to knock down than an accurate recital of conservative views.

    Your Bush Derangement Syndrome slip is showing. ;-)"

    What's your point John? How did Bob's post misrepresent "conservative views"? You forget that your prime opinion setters just labeled Baker, Hamilton, Meese, Posdesta, O'Connor, and the rest of the center-to-right members of the commission as "Surrender Monkey's" - or are you disputing this marching-order?

    Why don't you support your last post by providing a little of these mysterious "conservative views"?

    Is Olby for or against gay-rights then? He is for now and was against years ago, sounds like most Dems.

    What do you want to hear, I will say it.

    thank you Sir...
    If only the rats marched to the sea and jumped in !

    I love when the idiots mention "Bush derangement syndrome" or "Bush bashing"..as if we should ignore the King is not wearing any clothes...or his failures and policies that are hurting this country and Iraq.

    What about THE BUSH POLICIES IN IRAQ ARE NOT WORKING. THE COUNTRY IS DETERIORATING...does the Bush cabal not understand ?

    MSNBC feels sorry for Hillary Clinton for her husband scandal. Unbelievable.

    I am a woman myself, I don't feel sorry for her. She is the most phoniest person on this planet, she likes a pupeet, whatever her supporters want he rto say and do, she will do it in a heart beat. What is exactly on her mind, I bet you even her husband does not know. She stays the course on this marriage for she wants to be president one day.

    I don't vote for a president because of gender, color of the skin, I vote for a person that I believe who has the best fit to lead this country and the world.

    As long as you can do it, go ahead.

    First of all...Thanks Bob...for using my cabal reference...how sweet!

    Next, Tofutti! Brother! You are so like your hero Olby! I make a simple sarcastic post and immediately you are able to discern each and evry single thing about me? ("Your sarcasm suggests that you have no inclination whatsoever to question what is being done with your money")...umm, didja ever think there stewie that maybe, just maybe now, my sarcastic approach was meant to deflate your overblown self important unwavering belief that all your ideas are always correct.

    Or maybe I could do it too...let's see you had 3 different responses to my single post...I take that to mean that you 1) have OCD...seek help; 2)have an overblown image of yourself and your opinions, aka delusions of granduer...seek help 3) place waaaaaaaay too much importance on your hero KO...seek more help

    PS: Bob, I am glad my post in the other thread was able to help you get back into the swing of things internet/this site -wise...just keep checking back to the main page everyday for each new thread

    Sir Loin:

    Regarding the ISG report... instead of a serious new look at our options oving forward in Iraq, this report consists of platitudinous, utterly naïve wishful thinking.

    Other than its negative comments regarding the current situation and policy in Iraq (which you and your comrades loved I'm sure), what exactly in the ISG recommendations did you like???

    Let's see... nope; no relevant content in Fred Bear's last post.

    It's not about my intellectual superiority to you, Fred - It's about you abdicating your common sense and responsibility as an American citizen. How much money have you lost to Nigerian Internet swindles?

    Bob:

    Get you head around this... I'm not happy with how things are going in Iraq (and haven't been for some time).

    I'll ask you the same thing I asked Sir Loin... other than its negative comments regarding the current situation and policy in Iraq, what exactly in the ISG recommendations did you like???

    JohnE,

    I'm not saying I liked any of it - beyond, as you say, its general condemnation of Bush's policies to date.

    The discussion you are commenting on was about the orchestrated ultraright-wing media attack against the report that ensued at the moment it was released. The point having been made was that the far right now finds itself defensively "swift-boating" essentially the entire American political spectrum except for their own frayed, shrinking end.

    The boat's sinking - the stupid rats will drown.

    Tofutti...tofutti...Tofutti....tsk, tsk tsk

    "Let's see... nope; no relevant content in Fred Bear's last post." -Well, ya know, Fred Bear see, Fred Bear do...you understand that one correctly right? or do I need to go into a whole long paragraph as to what that statement means?

    "It's not about my intellectual superiority to you" - good, because you would have to prove it first....which of course, you haven't

    "It's about you abdicating your common sense and responsibility as an American citizen" - Man...how many ladders you need for that high horse there stewie?

    "How much money have you lost to Nigerian Internet swindles?" Gee I figured out how to block that kind of crap...I am sorry if you haven't and lost the half of your money the cabal hasn't taken...yet

    The best part of the report, and I quote, "The troops have learned to aim low because the towels on their heads makes the enemy look taller."

    "Finally, we would be most remiss if we didn't point out that KO still refuses to tell his viewers how Jack Abramoff has pointed the finger of corruption at none other than Sen Harry Reid."

    News flash, Johnny - NOBODY CARES! It's been 23 days since you started this tally and, so far, not even NewsBusters or FOX News has touched it. Give it up, man.

    BS Sir Loin... in addition to the (as you say) ultraright-wing, the report was trashed in part or wholly by people and organizations covering the political spectrum... hell, the people and government in Iraq didn't even like it. The only people embracing the report have been the mainstream media and the insurgents in Iraq.

    How many days did Olber say that Rove would be indicted. Definately more than 23 days.

    John E,

    ....my own preferrence would follow Rep Kucinich's recommendations; that we instantly cut off funding for the war and bring our military home. Then we need to pay to fix the mess we've made - the houses, cars, factories, stock portfolios, and trust-funds of the people and corporations that conspired to create and profit from this war will hopefully bear a lot of this obligation, following procedural court seizure of their assets - but the sheep-like American people will have to pay as well. Maybe we'll at least get some accounting of this forthcoming expenditure, as opposed to those of the past four years.

    So now we know what Bush thinks of the report. What do the Dems think?? Looks to be another case of attack Bush's position but have not alternative plan.

    Sir Loin:

    Although I completely disagree with you, I respect your position more than the "consensus" claptrap I read in the ISG report recommendations.

    BS Sir Loin... in addition to the (as you say) ultraright-wing, the report was trashed in part or wholly by people and organizations covering the political spectrum... hell, the people and government in Iraq didn't even like it. The only people embracing the report have been the mainstream media and the insurgents in Iraq.


    Posted by: JohnE at December 8, 2006 12:18 PM


    It is disliked for as many reasons as there are critics. What's your point? My point was that the neocons have absolutely NO friends left. How does the wide and diverse debate surounding the commission's report have any bearing on this?

    "Finally, we would be most remiss if we didn't point out that KO still refuses to tell his viewers how Jack Abramoff has pointed the finger of corruption at none other than Sen Harry Reid."

    News flash, Johnny - NOBODY CARES! It's been 23 days since you started this tally and, so far, not even NewsBusters or FOX News has touched it. Give it up, man.

    Posted by: Anonymous at December 8, 2006 12:16 PM


    Johnny:

    Stay the course.

    "Are you now or have you ever been in the acquaintance of a NEOCON?"

    Bellowed Keith Olbermann at witness after witness when Speaker Pelosi brought him in to run the House UnAmerican Neocon Activities Commitee.

    Sir Loin:

    Apologies if your point was "that the neocons have absolutely NO friends left"... I didn't respond to *that* point because it was so inane. If you want to go "neener-neener you have no friends", knock yourself out.

    JohnE,

    Yes, the "consensus" nature of the findings was far too "safe and equivocal - at least in regard to specific recomendations. But I expected little else from the characters making up the committee - this was politics, not so much of investigation.

    The statements that heaped generalized criticism on the bush administration somewhat surprized me, but I suppose they are merely trying to salvage some credibility for the conservative movement in the wake of the BUsh years.

    My big problem with the report is that the recomendations ignore entirely the horrible debt owed by the American people to what's left of the Iraqis; and that is the real issue.

    "Apologies if your point was "that the neocons have absolutely NO friends left"... I didn't respond to *that* point because it was so inane. If you want to go "neener-neener you have no friends", knock yourself out. "

    John, if its so inane, why did you enter the f---ing discussion in the first place? You people are exasperating - you start losing an argument you entered into freely so you lash out at the issues themselves!

    Sir Loin,

    We don't see eye-to-eye on the "big problem" with the report... but at least (in this holiday season) we can both agree, the report sucks! :-)

    Sir loin said "John, if its so inane, why did you enter the f---ing discussion in the first place?"

    LOL... good point, I guess. I was responding to other phrases in your comments (thanks for the heads up regarding that not being allowed).

    If you want to go "neener-neener you have no friends", knock yourself out.

    Posted by: JohnE at December 8, 2006 12:34 PM


    John displays the naivete of the typical neocon cultist: When most people involved in geopolitical discussions would recognize a referrence in that contest to "the neocons having no friends" as referring to their shrinking ranks of political allies and partners in coalitons. The neocon cultist, however, boils this down to school-yard terms - rendering the matter moot due to vast discrepancies in understanding.

    Not surprising. This is, after all, a group that elects its presidents based on their denominational piety and whether or not they'd be fun at a barbeque.

    Anybody know a charity organization that gives Christmas presents to kids of soldiers??

    Sir Loin said: "John displays the naivete of the typical neocon cultist: When blah blah blah neocons having no friends blah blah blah shrinking ranks blah blah blah blah. The neocon cultist blah blah blah blah vast discrepancies blah blah blah."

    LOL... Instead of 'naivete'... shouldn't you have said 'delusion' or 'immaturity'? :-)

    Uh oh, JohnE...

    Dr Tofutti is back in full delusional form...

    Dr Tofu...you are so quick to determine what a person is based on just a few items posted on a single website...May I ask where you got you degree in psychology? I would like to check out your references before placing any value in your psychological conclusions.

    From AP

    CHICAGO

    "A man who authorities said wanted to commit acts of 'violent jihad' against civilians was charged Friday in a plot to set off hand grenades in garbage cans at a shopping mall, authorities said.

    "Derrick Shareef, 22, of Rockford, was arrested Wednesday when he met with an undercover agent in a parking lot to trade a set of stereo speakers for four hand grenades and a handgun."


    ####
    Wow, a lone terrorist suspect is ARRESTED!..... What happened to Olbermann's prediction about the United States Citizen's loss of habeus corpus under George Bush and the evil Republicans? ]

    Will we have a comment from demogoger-in-chief tonight on COUNTDOWN?

    "LOL... Instead of 'naivete'... shouldn't you have said 'delusion' or 'immaturity'? :-)"

    ...I guess I could have used those terms - or even "girlish emoticon addiction".


    I have a problem MSNBC keeps asking this quesiton, "Are we ready for a black president?", they are talking about Obama. Why can't they say it nicely, African American President, does it sound a whole lot better? We are all Americans, we are all equal under the Consitution, please do not distiniguish us by the color of our skin. It looks like MSNBC/NBC are having problem with a "black predient" but not a "woman president". It sounds like to me they want to pick a president for us.

    Note: Indian Americans are not the same as American Indians.

    Good point, Jane. Now ask yourself this question: How many african American anchors does MSNBC currently employ? Hmmm....

    Early morning: Imus, with entire on-air staff being white.

    9:00 AM- Amy Robach (white)
    10:00 AM- Contessa Brewer (white)
    11:00 AM- Andrea Mitchell (white)
    Rotate them, throw in an occasional Chris Jansing.
    3:00 PM- Alison Stewart (call her black, but she's definitely mixed and is married to a white producer who happens to produce there)
    4:00 PM- Tucker Carlson (soon to be gone, but white)
    5:00 PM- Hardball (orange Chris Matthews)
    6:00 PM- Tucker again (why, nobody knows)
    7:00 PM- Hardball
    8:00 PM- Olbermann (green)
    9:00 PM- Scarborough
    10:00 PM- DocBlock

    When KO and Milbank get together, which one do you think is the top and which one is the bottom???

    Most AFrican Americans support Bill Clinton, if both Mrs. Clinton and Obama are in a race, I would like to see it, that is a hell of a race.

    I see the Foley report has been released and the conclusion is that "no House rules were broken". It's not just Republicans I'm criticizing...there are Democrats on that commitee as well! It seems that Congress still refuses to police itself and hold members responsible when members do not uphold a high ethical standard. Can we impeach the entire government, including Congress?

    Typical Mike...wanting to take down the entire government of the most prosperous, generous, and diverse country in the world.

    Foley resigned, as he should have, and there was no evidence or allegation that Foley had sex with the pages or harmed them in any way. There was no proof that Republicans broke any house rules. Rumors fly around Washington all the time about almost every member of Congress in terms of their personal lives...what did you expect them to do?

    Even the Democrats on the panel understand this, but in the usual Mike fashion, "Everybody sucks, let's complain about everything and anything, and let's fire the entire U.S. government! Ugh.

    Typical Mike...wanting to take down the entire government of the most prosperous, generous, and diverse country in the world.

    Foley resigned, as he should have, and there was no evidence or allegation that Foley had sex with the pages or harmed them in any way. There was no proof that Republicans broke any house rules. Rumors fly around Washington all the time about almost every member of Congress in terms of their personal lives...what did you expect them to do?

    Even the Democrats on the panel understand this, but in the usual Mike fashion, "Everybody sucks, let's complain about everything and anything, and let's fire the entire U.S. government! Ugh.

    Typical Redstate, you take everything you hear or read literally, as if a little humor or an overstatement cannot be used to make a larger point. Your brain seems very limited, but of course, because of that very limitation, you will never see this about yourself.

    Now, I'm sure that most people got the point, but I will go into more detail for the benefit of the mentally slow bloggers such as yourself.
    The 'larger' point was that Congress has not yet gotten the message that their oversight and ethical committees are toothless...and they steadfastly refuse to police themselves in any meaningful way, every single time!

    This latest whitewash is just another example of that culture of cover up.

    Rule 23 states something to the effect that all members must always act in a way that reflects positively on the ethics and integrity of the House. This clearly did not happen in the Foley case.

    Last year, the onset of the Abramoff scandel pointed to a HUGE problem with K Street and the undue influence of lobbyests on OUR reresentatives. They had a golden opportunity last year to atack this cesspool of corruption, and yet they did nothing....again!

    And finally, is it just completely beyond your limited mental capacity to debate a point with an idealogical adversary without including a personal attack?????

    "Your brain seems very limited, but of course, because of that very limitation, you will never see this about yourself.".........

    "And finally, is it just completely beyond your limited mental capacity to debate a point with an idealogical adversary without including a personal attack?????"

    Gee hypocrisy just like Olbermoron....mikey see mikey do

    Olbermann scares you right wing morons.

    Good.

    Olbermann scares you right wing morons.

    Good.