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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    January 17, 2007
    COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN - JANUARY 17, 2007

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • IRAQ; THE SENATE; SEN. HILLARY CLINTON (D-N.Y.): Howard Fineman, Newsweek and MSNBC political analyst
    • WHAT IS THE WHITE HOUSE DOING TO FEDERAL PROSECUTORS?: Jonathan Turley, George Washington University law professor and constitutional law expert

    Keith was spoilin' for a fight as he bellowed the opening spiel: Congress to propose pass resolutions (non-binding), a troop limit, and who will be the saviour: Hillary or Obama? Eeevil Bush is replacing federal prosecutors according to the law. "Domestic spying." Girls gone wild. James Brown. What, no segment on the far-right propaganda that suffuses Grease: You're the One That I Want?

    MADMAN

    The Hour of Spin proper began with Olby decrying a head of state who refuses to act in accordance with "elected lawmakers" or the most recent vote. On OlbyPlanet, you don't need a President. Just conduct a poll and there's your policy. Adoration of Chuckie Hagel, since he joined with Dems to oppose the troop surge escalation. A general says the plan has a 50/50 chance of success. Well that's better than it got from the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann who before it was even announced decreed it would fail. Clips of lawmakers against the surge: Hagel, Biden, Clinton. Olby tossed in a "wonderfully" to describe Hillary's comments. Clips of lawmakers supporting the surge: [sound of crickets]. Another reason why The Hour of Spin is the most biased hour of "news" on television.

    Olby asked the Pundit for All Occasions if non-binding resolutions can have any effect; Howie whined that the President "ignored the advice of Congress" and the "mid-term elections". Does that sound familiar? Yes, it is near-perfect parrotting of the OlbySpin that began the hour. Keith was worried that the Senate bill might be filibustered, and Fineman thought that might work. But KO brightened up because, see, the Dems really do have a plan for Iraq. Or two, or three, or four. Great thanks.

    Then it was time to give some free PR to Hillary and Obama--that is, beyond the glorification they got in the first segment. Are they really electable? For that Monkeymann turned to Craig Crawford, aka Olbermann's Brain. He had a convoluted electoral analysis that boiled down to: if you get enough electoral votes, you win. KO tried to take any issue of experience off the table with both his approved candidates, suggesting it was "just a front for qualms about race or gender". It's a "code word". Brain, of course, chortled his agreement. He knows better than to do otherwise. Citizen Keith warned the Dems that they had better not nominate someone who appeals to red states because Brain has the math all worked out. So there.

    After oddball and an attack on Fox and O'Reilly, came another episode of Olby and the Perfessor, this time about "Mister" Bush and his federal prosecutors. This "controversy" naturally emenates from a Blue Blog Source (Talking Points Memo). Apparently some prosecutors have resigned, and the real reason has to be not what the Department of Justice says, but rather what Fat Ass and his Kingsfield insist: payback for prosecuting politicians. What's more, they're using an outrageous method to fill the vacancies: they're following the law!

    The "purge" of prosecutors is "frightening", according to Citizen Keith. They're "circumventing" the Congress, claimed The Perfessor, because they're following a law passed by Congress. Then The Perfessor went off on his usual tear: habeas corpus, they're acting "outside the rule of law", "violating the constitution". Edward R Olbermann wants Gonzalez impeached. Yada yada yada. You've heard it all before. Great thanks.

    The girl-fight caught on video (regurgitated from a local NBC station), student tasered, Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan (KO avoided calling her mother a "bag" this time around), O.J., and James Brown, whose body lies not amouldering, in a room somewhere. "Man on Fan" Olbermann was really concerned about why his family doesn't just dig a hole and put him in it, so much so that it took up an entire program block. In the Media Matters Minute, the "worst person" was Dinesh DeSouza (conservative), for making a rather sophisticated argument:

    FDR gave away Eastern Europe through Yalta, and then the Soviet Union invaded Afghanistan, the Muslims had to fight back and that's where bin Laden got his start.

    To an anti-intellectual like Olbermoronn, of course, this is just high-browed, pointy-headed stuff; so he simplified the point to DeSouza "specifically blames" FDR for 9/11 (Blue Blog Source: Think Progress).

    OLBY

    Taciturn terriers: Whatever happened to The Great Leak Case? Is Slippery Shuster still waiting outside the courthouse for that Karl Rove indictment? It's coming! Any minute now! The stock market hit another historic high today, oil prices continue to decline, $2 a gallon gas could be on the horizon, but you won't hear any of that on Countdown. Nothing on the indictment of the guy who ran the UN's Oil for Food program. An American Imam's hate speech is never going to get coverage from Herr Olbermann. Just like the top Al Qaeda militant killed, or the calls to pardon border patrol agents who fired on a drug dealer. And in the ongoing scrutiny of Naked Right-Wing Propaganda Masquerading as Entertainment, somehow the discredited sports guy didn't get around to railing against NCIS. On their last episode, the team disrupted an terrorist plot to set off a massive explosion in the DC area. NCIS is not on Fox.

    NAME

    Olbermann's book In the wake of his attack on Jack Bauer, the book that bears Olberman's name has sunk to #8,861 at amazon.com, while "Culture Warrior" is #106. The OlbyTome is #2,714 at Barnes & Noble; O'Reilly's book is #94 there, as well as being one of 2006's top ten best sellers. The ratings for Tuesday have not yet been published, but you can take this to the bank: the discredited sports guy lost to his nemesis by orders of magnitude, both in total viewers and in the critical, beloved, all-important, coveted "key demo". Tonight's MisterMeter reading: 3 [GUARDED]


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    Ah, another visit from the Perfessor. MSNBC probably has studio time regularly scheduled for him.

    Hi all!

    I'm wondering... Anybody else think that the recent explosion of left wing rehtoric by some of the other MSNBC hosts (Matthews and Scarborough), as well as the team attacks on FNC (Tucker and Scarborough), be a message from management to KO that they don't really need him?

    Letting him know that they can be crazy left wing nut jobs without him.

    Keith is on the verge of a huge new contract and he will be number one when this pathetic pile of shit president is thrown out... and one day it is my dream to piss on the gravesite of this criminal.. too bad the pretzel had more of an exit plan...

    Keith is on the verge of a huge new contract and he will be number one when this pathetic pile of shit president is thrown out... and one day it is my dream to piss on the gravesite of this criminal.. too bad the pretzel had more of an exit plan...

    Posted by: Bill O'lielly at January 17, 2007 9:13 PM

    Wow, a real Mensa calibur post.

    calibur ? You freaking twit... dumbass.

    Number one at what exactly though O'Lielly? Have you seen the ratings? You do know that Olbermann has never even come CLOSE to beating Bill in the ratings right? He doubles his ratings in the demos nightly, sometimes tripling them. Olbermann only has good ratings on two nights of the week and lately, he hasn't even been managing that-last Thursday for example was a ratings disaster for Olby. You know, I could say that I await the day that monkeys will fly but that doesn't mean they ever will.

    So a couple of US Attorneys resigned and it's a national scandal. I don't recall hearing a peep out of anyone on the left when Olby's hero, "the Great Stainmaker",(he of the biological material) FIRED every US Attorney in every district across the country. Hypocrites!

    Interesting point about Scarborough's slide towards the left. And he's earning him better ratings, on one night last week he beat Olbermann in the ratings didn't he?

    You can't blame the Olbermann-maniacs for thinking that Ko is somehow within striking distance of Bill O'Reilly in the ratings. He gets on television and announces quarter hour ratings where because of some freak accident or something, he came CLOSE to beating O'Reilly they really think that it means that he has beaten him in the past when the truth is anything but. And a lot of people don't see the ratings so they remain really ignorant about the true nature of Keith's ratings thanks to KO's frantic spinning about his ratings on air. It's intellectually dishonest of KO to mislead his audience regarding his ratings but as has been documented here, it's the least of what Keith is dishonest about.

    brandon
    don't you know facts never get in the way when the moonbats want to roar.don't let facts get in your way o'lielly,hope you have your tinfoil hat on.i think your late for your 9/11 thruthers meeting.oh yeah olbermoron still blows.

    O'Lielly,

    You are sounding a little less unhinged than normal. Are you sure you are OK?

    Rico,
    Olbermann only speaks the truth. You guys hate him for that. His name will echo through eternity!

    Olbermann speaks the truth? Yeah that's why Johnny is able to document his many lies and distortions on a nightly basis.

    KAF just knows he is eventually be going to recognized in history books as the fella who 'exposed' the "infamous deplorable Keith Olbermann" and saved America from his ravages.

    Yes, It's such a thankless job at the moment, but his time will come!

    Buffalo,

    Let me make it clear that I do not hate Krazy Keith. I am glad that his show is on and hope it continues for many years to come. But I really wish he would stop doing sports shows because I think he hates all sports and all athletes.

    You guys are a bunch of Bushbots. You can't put a candle to Olbermann's great intellect. He exposes the Right's racism against people of Islamic origin, he exposes the Reichwing's warmongering and he stands up for Liberal values against the Klan culture! He's a hero and one day his face will be on Mt. Rushmore!

    Rico,
    You Klansmen are a regressive species of primates compared to Olbermann. His word is the truth! Listen and you might learn!

    Folks, I hear you all got a problem with four hoofs. Well, I'm here to tell you that if that's your problem, I'm the answer. Hope y'all like stew!

    Buffy, how come you never actually talk about anythign Olbermann has said? How come all you do is attack people and call them names? How come when we point out how something he's said is wrong, you just yell and scream about how stupid you think everyone else is?

    I thought your shtick was funny at first, but now it's getting old.

    Could you make it a twofer Bill and take out Mike while you're at it?

    Sorry Brandon,

    I feel your pain, but I don't "do humans".

    I'm in reel trouble now....Brandons out lookin fer a hired gun to come git me!

    It was the age of great showmen and traveling entertainers, like the Barnum and Bailey Circus and the Vaudeville circuits. Cody took the lead from fellow showman 'Pawnee Bill' and put together a new traveling show based on both of those forms of entertainment.

    How appropriate...in real like Bill Cody joined the 'circus.' Welcome to the circus of Olbyhaters, paleface.

    Mike,

    I have to admit that I am worried about your well being. It looks like KAF has stolen your mojo or something.

    This site's existence is a glowing tribute to Olbermann. Keep at it! Most people who say stoopid stuff get paid for it...And I'm sure Johnny Rotten is on Ruppie's Payroll-if he's not, he's just like you guys - free whores.

    If Bill Cody can't take care of Mike, maybe KAF can just get a restraining order against him for stalking because Mike has become a little too obsessed with KAF.

    I'm a hunter. Mike doesn't count as a human. He's a liberal. Have at him Bill.

    Well thats real sweet of you to worry about me like that Rico.
    And to think, that mean old 'libral', KAF won't even lend me a dime!

    Olbermann Bad!
    Bush Good!
    Olbermann Bad!
    Fox Good!
    Olbermann Bad!
    O'Reilly Good!
    Blah! Blah! Blah!

    Olbermann Bad!
    Bush Good!
    Olbermann Bad!
    Fox Good!
    Olbermann Bad!
    O'Reilly Good!
    Blah! Blah! Blah!

    Olbermann Bad!
    Bush Good!
    Olbermann Bad!
    Fox Good!
    Olbermann Bad!
    O'Reilly Good!
    Blah! Blah! Blah!

    Olbermann Bad!
    Bush Good!
    Olbermann Bad!
    Fox Good!
    Olbermann Bad!
    O'Reilly Good!
    Blah! Blah! Blah!

    Don't you guys have...

    an Original Thought?

    .

    .

    a Job?

    .

    .

    .

    a Family?

    .

    .

    .

    .

    a Life?

    .

    .

    .

    Sex?

    It's Mike who posts here all hours of the day and night. And it's you liberals who keep posting the same talking points (Bush Bad! Olbermann perfect!). I'd say that it's the libs here who don't have a life.

    Everyone,
    This is what you must think:
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Bush is evil, Olbermann is good!
    Long live Hillary!
    Long live Obama!

    Mike,

    Not too be picky with you or anything, but I thought you recently said that we weren't supposed to be too hard on each other for spelling and grammatical errors.

    I think that you have a "double standard" here: one for KAF, and one for the rest of humanity. I think he's got to you, Mike.

    I dropped a 'glowing tribute' to Keef , this morning, into the crapper.

    Olbermann is perfect!

    Rico,
    Olbermann is the truth. Deal with it loser!

    Lets see, lets discuss Olbermann:

    - Olbermann lies! Probably not intentionally, but guilty of distortion and hyperbole at times!

    - Olbermann is obsessed with O'Reilly! Yea, probably!

    - Olbermann is too 'liberal'! I don't know, since mostly what he talks about is the war and Constitutional issues. Maybe he's just anti- Republican and anti-Bush.

    - Olbermann calls himself a 'newsman' when he's actually a commentator! Yea, probably.

    - Olbermann doesn't debate! Yea, but it's not really that kind of a show. There's plenty of 'debate' shows on anyway.

    OK, nuff said about that. Next subject please!

    Rico, you missed the joke again, darn it.

    KAF has his flaws and that really wierd Olbermann obsession, but his spelling is actually pretty good, better than mine in fact!

    I am so thankful that Olby doesn't have a "debate" show. Aren't there enough of those fight-fest hours on teevee? I've yet to see any issues resolved/solved from any of the Hardballs, Factors, Hannity & Who? programs out there.

    Olbermann is a 60 minute show of Propaganda for the Left and Jihadis/Iranians!

    everytime i look at Olbys mug on t.v, reminds of somebody wearing one of those "Groucho Marx" fake nose and moustaches...damn dude..trim those eyebrows. This is the funniest blog on the net!!..OLBY-PLANET!!!..BWAAAAAAAAAA!!

    He even attacks a show, 24! He says nothing about Jericho which is on CBS, so I guess that's ok!

    Olbermann is such a miserable person, he'll attack Battlestar Galactica for unfair portrayal of the Cylons!

    Olbermann is a one dimensional attack machine. If Hillary wins in 2008, he'll become spokesmen for the Whitehouse!

    I'm out for the night!
    There's no point in posting since all the Leftists/Islamic lovers will just write that Bush sucks and America is horrible.
    Get a life you losers!

    "Olbermann is a one dimensional attack machine. If Hillary wins in 2008, he'll become spokesmen for the Whitehouse!"

    ...And since you admitted Fox is Okay, What's wrong with that?

    I dropped a 'glowing tribute' to Keef , this morning, into the crapper.

    Posted by: QQ at January 17, 2007 10:32 PM

    Uh, better get that checked by a doctor, I don't think that's normal.

    And if you're thinking about Keith while you're on the toilet, you'd better see a psychiatrist as well.

    "I'm out for the night!"

    No, getting drunk on Mad Dog, Jerkin' to Olbermann's Picture and Passing Out doesn't count as

    "Out for the night!"

    Just, admit it, you're girlfriend has the computer tonight so she can surf the singles sites.

    How dare anyone insult Olbermann. He's a giant of our times who ratings put O'Reilly to shame!
    Orally has 2.4 Million Viewers vs.Our Hero who has 6.4 Million. Olbermann is on the rise!

    I jerk off to Olbermann's picture everynight! I love him he's my Idol!

    Bush is really controlled by Aliens. The ice storms are his fault! Evrything bad in the world is Bush's fault! He has magically powers!

    Heckuva Job Brownie!

    This site should be banned!
    Bush sucks!

    I hate you Bushbot Christians. You gus are a bunch of anti-Semites that want us Jews exterminated! Like your idol Hitler. Well it's not happening, Olbermann will protect my people!

    Stay the Course.

    During an October 22, 2006 interview on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’”

    Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!

    BUSH: We will stay the course. [8/30/06]

    BUSH: We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. [8/4/05]

    BUSH: We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the temptation is to try to get the President or somebody to put a timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We’re just going to stay the course. [12/15/03]

    BUSH: And my message today to those in Iraq is: We’ll stay the course. [4/13/04]

    BUSH: And that’s why we’re going to stay the course in Iraq. And that’s why when we say something in Iraq, we’re going to do it. [4/16/04]

    BUSH: And so we’ve got tough action in Iraq. But we will stay the course. [4/5/04]

    Maliki disses Bush :

    Jan. 17 - America's refusal to give Baghdad's security forces sufficient guns and equipment has cost a great number of lives, the Iraqi Prime Minister said yesterday.

    Nouri al-Maliki said the insurgency had been bloodier and prolonged because Washington had refused to part with equipment. If it released the necessary arms, US forces could "drastically" cut their numbers in three to six months, he told The Times.

    Even Maliki, Bush's only friend left in the world, cept for Cee of course, has criticism for Bush.

    In her public testimony before the 9-11 commission, Dr. Rice stated: “I do not remember any reports to us, a kind of strategic warning, that planes might be used as weapons.”

    Dr. Rice admitted privately to the 9-11 panel that she had “misspoken” when she said there were no prior warnings, but then proceeded to repeat this claim in public.

    Bush is evil!
    He's an evil man!

    Bush is a scumbag loser. He looks like a Chimp and is a genocidal maniac! He's evil and I hate him!

    "This site should be banned!
    Bush sucks!"
    no you commie liberal asstard olbermann sucks and should be banned and O'lielly should be used as toilet paper.
    liberals are traitors and olbermann is the biggest a--hole on TV.

    During his Veteran’s Day 2005 address, Bush charged that “ . . more than a hundred Democrats in the House and the Senate -- who had access to the same intelligence -- voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power. "

    The Washington Post extensively analyzed this claim, concluding that: “Bush and his aides had access to much more voluminous intelligence information than did lawmakers, who were ependent on the administration to provide the material…Bush does not share his most sensitive intelligence, such as the President's Daily Brief, with lawmakers. Also, the National Intelligence Estimate summarizing the intelligence community's views about the threat from Iraq was given to Congress just days before the vote to authorize the use of force in that country. In addition, there were doubts within the intelligence community not included in the NIE. And even the doubts expressed in the NIE could not be used publicly by members of Congress because the classified information had not been cleared for release.” (Washington Post, 11/13/05) See http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/dpc-new.cfm?doc_name=sr-109-1-129

    This was confirmed by a Congressional Research Service report which found that the “President, and a small number of presidentially-designated Cabinet-level officials, including the Vice President (3) - in contrast to Members of Congress (4) - have access to a far greater overall volume of intelligence and to more sensitive intelligence information, including information regarding intelligence sources and methods.”

    In reality it was Aliens from Alpha Centauri, under the control of Karl Rove that did 9/11. Under orders from Cheny, the Aliens used their gravitational beams to control the planes and ramm the twin towers!

    I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees. President Bush (09/01/05)

    It really caught everybody by surprise" and was a major reason for the delay in the government's emergency response. Michael Chertoff (09/04/05)

    That 'perfect storm' of a combination of catastrophes exceeded the foresight of the planners, and maybe anybody's foresight. Michael Chertoff (09/05/05)

    Two Days Warning. The White House situation room received a report at 1:47 a.m. the day Katrina hit, predicting that Katrina would likely lead to severe flooding and/or levee breaching. Two days before Katrina hit FEMA predicted that Hurricane Katrina could be worse than Hurricane Pam.

    The child Red State is at it again.

    Hey red State, wouldn't playing in your sandbox be more fulfilling than taking people's names.

    What a dope !

    Heckuva Job Brownie!

    The fact is the Aliens under the control of Karl Rove and Cheney along with the evil neocons control everything! Storms and Earthquakes are all Bush's fault! Congress has began to use tin foil hats that defelect the Alien's mind control weapons. That's why Congress is fighting back!
    It's a galactic plot and only Olbermann can save us!

    I wish Bush was controlled by Aliens, couldn't be any worse...

    In fact when the levees broke, theere were reports of UFO's. The Aliens using their laser weapons to break the levess. This was done so Blacks would leave Louisiana! It's part of Bush's genocidal plans!

    What are levess?

    I am controlled by aliens!

    Someone's got their Fat Fingers on the Keyboard again!

    Johnny Dollar :oil prices continue to decline, $2 a gallon gas could be on the horizon, but you won't hear any of that on Countdown.

    And you won't hear Johnny 2 cents talk about why the prices at the pump are hardly dropping even though the price of a barrel of oil is plummeting.

    In fact I am so powerful, that a poster that keeps changing his name has all my qoutes! That's my mind control powers. He's obsessed with me and jerks off to my picture every night!
    In fact I'm always on his mind and he has nothing else to talk about!

    The alliens destroied the levess!

    What is a qoute?

    Bob,
    I'm letting oil prices drop. I control everything! I want people to suffer so get over it. Prices will drop to $45 dollars a barrel and the prices at the pump will still be high! Ha ha there's nothing you can do! I must do my Alpha Centauri masters's bidding!
    I am Bush and I control everthing with my evil brain!

    I am in your thoughts and dreams name changer! I control you!

    Uh, you can't even control your keyboard.

    You talk about me all the time! I'm in your thoughts!

    Bush,
    Everything is your fault! When car broke down it was your fault!

    I hate you Bush!

    Bush,

    When I Flunked Skool it was yor falt

    Thos dam Muslam kids got all the good seets

    Bush is an evil man! Hitler would trmble being in his sight!

    Resident Bush to GOD:

    You talk about me all the time! I'm in your thoughts!

    Posted by: President Bush at January 18, 2007 12:04 AM

    GOD: No George, it's the other way around, remember? Take your medication.

    Typical Scenario:

    KO Bashes Bush in a Special Comment.

    Johnny Wad comes on and tries to assail KO for having the views he does about Bush.

    Libs come on and back up Keith by illustrating why they feel the way they do about Bush, and, essentially, why Keith is right.

    Johnny Wad and the other Neocons claim the Libs are 'off topic' by saying this isn't 'Bush Watch' or 'Iraq Watch' and by doing so they are deliberately trying to 'Change the subject?'

    HUH?

    I think THAT is trying to change the subject!

    80% of the GENERAL public doesn't agree with Bush. Your tiny Island of Dystopia is getting smaller and smaller.

    You rightwing pantywastes can't handle the light of day shining on the lies and deceptions of the past six years. Crawl back in your hole - your time is done.

    "or the calls to pardon border patrol agents who fired on a drug dealer."

    Johnny, for someone who claims to be a lawyer you seem to be ignorant of the law. These men were CONVICTED and SENTENCED. They surrendered today to the U.S. Marshals. What these groups wanted was for the President to pardon them or for them to be out on bond while their appeal is pending (a motion that was denied, by the way).

    In other words, these groups wanted SPECIAL TREATMENT for two men who were found guilty of shooting someone (admittedly non-fatally) and then trying to cover it up. Tell me why the HELL this makes sense?

    To Professor Bunsen Honeydew (Bob) and the rest of the talk tough crowd:

    The group who still desires victory in Iraq may be small....but the policy continues....and actual support for the group is still huge in the BILLIONS of dollars Congress is still allowing to spew out of the US Treasury into the operation.

    Is the Democrat controlled Congress like that textbook case....the impotent, empowering, codependent mother who gives her grown son food, shelter and the money to buy his drug of choice?

    Is this what the founders wanted Congress to be?

    From reading The Constitution, I know that President Bush is behaving just like the founders wanted the executive to act. (We can debate this point today, if you all want to)

    I challenge all of you, and Olbermann, to put your speech to real world use and STOP the war mongers! Being an eloquent person never stood the test of history (Olbermann apologists are deluded to believe Keith will be considered an important part of this "drama")...action always followed a truly great speech...for good or ill, in the historical texts I have read.

    So professor, stop the hate speech and take a look to your left.....Senator Kennedy's bill still sits, after a week, without action. Instead, we get a nonbinding resolution that will come and go in a 24 hour news cycle.

    The Iraqis and American Troops that are killed during that 24 hours will still be dead....not impacted one iota by the anti-war rhetoric.

    TO make my point crystal clear to the dull, and dimwitted professor:


    From AP....

    "'If my Democrat colleagues are truly opposed to the mission in Iraq, then as the new majority in Congress they should schedule a serious debate and a vote on cutting off funding for our troops,' said Cornyn, R-Texas.

    "The resolution does not call for a withdrawal of troops or threaten funding of military operations, as many Democrats have suggested. Instead, it says the U.S. should transfer responsibility to the Iraqis 'under an appropriately expedited timeline' that is not specified.

    "Biden, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said his panel will debate the measure on Jan. 24, the day following Bush's State of the Union address. A swift committee review would pave the way for debate on the floor as early as that week, although Democrats say it is likely Republicans on the committee will want to make changes.

    "Biden said modest changes to the bill might be used 'to attract those who share our view but may not like our specific language.'"


    Changes to language?.....Big Deal! And this is still over a week away.....WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE DEATHS THAT WILL OCCUR UNTIL THEN!

    To quote Sgt. Liam Madden AGAIN:

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too."

    Confused:
    If the public is swallowing up this Bush-Bashing and can't stand him as you love to document daily- how come the your queen Keith is still doing so miserably in the ratings? Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.

    Kurt...I am sorry to hear you feel this way....I really don't want you to have to feel scared! Please accept my apology for supporting such a horrid and evil man that has resulted in your disturbing feelings! I really must remember, the next time I evaluate my choices for elected office, that how my fellow citizens feel is really what is important.

    I must remember that people's feelings should not be hurt, and that any policy or law should always start with how it will make someone feel. The candidate that conveys a feeling of happiness, freedom and contentment will now be the paramount factor I take into account as I watch debates, listen to speeches and research the political landscape. How do I feel...I will try to stay in touch with this....ok?

    How did Hillary make me feel yesterday?.....I'll have to watch the tape of her exciting press conference.

    How will Senator Obama make me feel....I'll let you all know after I rewatch his web announcement.

    Let me re-listen to Senator Biden on Imus......my feelings were pretty preoccupied when I listened to him the first time...I was in my car!

    Oh yeah....Representative Kucinich....he always makes me feel fuzzy all over!....I just like the sound of his voice!

    How old are you, Kurt?.....

    Do you drink alcoholic beverages or take any pharma that has central nervous system effects?

    "I look forward to once again becoming a strong nation of free men and women permanently endowed with those precious, inalienable rights and to electing representatives and even a President who stand tall, proud and strong with us in that shining city on a hill."

    Mmmmm...mmmmm...mm.mmm....Mmmmm...mmmmmm...mm.mmmm (To the tune of "My Country 'tis of Thee")

    Kurt Kissel,
    So you don't want no security at airports. If France is so free explain the Islamic riots there and how some parts of the country are no go zones? This is a free country. What delusions do you live in. Typical Olbyloon paranoid!

    Did someone use Kurt's name to post a satirical take on a leftist's irrational fear mongering?


    Oh....and speaking of leftists....WONKETTE has a great announcement:

    "Guess what, everybody? It’s time to march on Washington again, on a nice freezing-ass Saturday when nobody’s watching the news and Congress isn’t in session. No oil for blood!

    "MoveOn, the National Organization of Women and the Care Bears are among the great organizations that have finally come out against the Iraq Occupation and are going to make some voices heard via marching around. So don’t forget to go protest on Saturday, January 27. It won’t make a bit of difference, but you might get lucky with a hippie!"

    http://wonkette.com/politics/iraq/the-war-will-end-on-january-27-229412.php


    ###
    Will Keith Olbermann, OZ (Colbert), Kurt, Professor Honeydew (Bob), Sir Loin of Milquetoast, Comic Book Store Guy (Buffalo), The Pa. twins (Donora/Bushkill) and Mike be there?.....If yes...let me know I'll meet you all at a STARBUCKS!

    cee

    KK,

    I think you need another drink of a "white Bordeaux". All of your discomfort is due to your "feelings", not "prolonged analysis". In other words, get out of your tizzy.

    KK,
    How does it fell to know that your beloved France is rapidly turning into an Islamic state?

    Red Wolf,

    You can hold down the fort. I gotta go to work now.

    Come on Kurt....The idea that the election of a particular executive would have resulted in __________ is only two things.....

    1 Irrelevant to the current challenges we face as a country.

    2 Unanswerable.

    I remember 10 years ago when Oliver Stone put out the silly movie, JFK...I think he said if JFK had been President in 1965, there would NOT have been a Vietnam. I reacted the same way then....how could anyone seriously make a claim to a what if?

    No matter how you slice it...."what if?" is regret. Fine, you regret Bush is The President....I do not. Nothing changes....so what legally can be done to achieve consensus on a policy some claim 80% of the country dislikes?

    If the left is serious about changing policy, as a representative democracy, constructive steps should be made to achieve those changes.

    If Keith Olbermann is right (I say he is not) and Bush has violated basic tenets of The US Constitution...his next breath should utter the words, "articles of impeachment and subsequent removal from office."

    If you are right (I say you are not) when you say, "Dubya has systematically dismantled the infrastructure of rights and protections we have long enjoyed and which define us as Americans," then your next breath should utter the same as Olbermann's. This is what infuriates me about the continued droning discourse.....right is right.....wrong is wrong......When people start using legal terms and moral arguments....ACTIONS ARE REQUIRED! Lets stop arguing and do something constructive.

    I disagree that there is evidence Bush has violated his oath of office, lied or even suggested a violation of my rights as I understand them in the legal framework of our country. This means I do not have to work for Bush's removal from office....If this changes, I will be the first on my phone to my Senators and Congressman to ACT!

    You have the challenge of getting your representatives to do, constitutionally, what the founders imagined....control the executive if he/she is not acting in the best interests of The United States.....


    Take away his money!
    Remove him from office!

    "Tout n'est pas rose dans la vie."

    Yo no intiendo una idioma de salvajes! You hablamo un idioma que es mas cerca al Latin que los barbaros Franceses habla!

    Kurt Kissel,
    What about the Islamic riots in France! Hmmm!
    Hey how Marsailles or the outskirts of Paris?

    "If Keith Olbermann is right (I say he is not) and Bush has violated basic tenets of The US Constitution...his next breath should utter the words, "articles of impeachment and subsequent removal from office."

    If you are right (I say you are not) when you say, "Dubya has systematically dismantled the infrastructure of rights and protections we have long enjoyed and which define us as Americans," then your next breath should utter the same as Olbermann's. This is what infuriates me about the continued droning discourse.....right is right.....wrong is wrong......When people start using legal terms and moral arguments....ACTIONS ARE REQUIRED! Lets stop arguing and do something constructive."

    Cee, you don't build a case for impeachment overnight. That's what doomed the Republican impeachment of Clinton - they went out guns blazing before they had an ironclad and airtight case. Thus, they were seen as playing politics with the most serious of charges.

    Democrats do not want to be seen in the same light. So the rule of thumb is INVESTIGATE and then, when you have a BULLETPROOF case, go for it. Otherwise the backlash is going to be just as bad.

    "What about the Islamic riots in France! Hmmm!
    Hey how Marsailles or the outskirts of Paris?"

    How about that it's been OVER A YEAR since that occurred? How about that there hasn't been anywhere NEAR that level of unrest since?

    Stop sounding the same notes, Red Wolf. The tune has gone quite stale.

    EE...First, Olbermann is not The Democrats in Congress....he and many of his guests have leveled legal allegations against President Bush that rise to the level of impeachment....yet I never hear the word out of his mouth.

    Interestingly, I also never heard Keith spew his Special Comments in 2004, 2005 or early 2006 when the polls were not at 30% support for The President.

    My calling of a political and cynical bluff (made only to increase ratings) with regards to Olbermann now extends to those in Congress and on this board that parrot the rhetoric. If The Democratic Party continues to behave like Iraq is only a political issue....that millions of people lives and futures are not in the balance, my low opinion of them as a party in the past will be confirmed. However, if SOMONE can show leadership to counter Bush in war policy and achieve a different result that fulfills the predictions made nightly on COUNTDOWN and on this board by the left....I will be the first to acknowledge my error.

    Iraq is so much more than an opportunity for MSNBC and Keith Olbermann to have an increase in ratings. It is also so much more than an opportunity for certain political parties to achieve more power. It is a war that should be won by The United States OR lost and abandoned by The United States.

    Secondly, Nancy Pelosi has already said impeachment is not going to happen....How could she make this claim?.....My opinion is that The Democratic Party does not have the political guts to make the choices that may be best for our country. The best choice right now is to have a debate and vote of war funding....it's not happening.

    EE, two points. First, the constant theme from the Dems and their supporters has been that impeachable offenses have been rampant and obvious. That we are quickly sliding towards a dictatorship, with the GWB cabal attempting a bloody coup on the backs of innocent Iraqis and our own military.

    Second, how does an investigation produce results if none takes place. The obligation to stop this madness rests with those who believe that our country is within a hairsbreath of collapsing from within. With that in mind, you are now endorsing a quiet, don't make political waves investigation. If the evidence is so obvious and abundant and investigation should produce results fairly quickly.

    Where is the political leadership that so many want so desparately to save our country from the dark forces of the GWB regime? Where is that leadership that we here at OW have been stridently and continuosly told would happen when their leaders took over the Congress from the rubber stamp Republican majority?

    A serious threat like this one can not be talked to death while crouching behind political cover.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    "How about that it's been OVER A YEAR since that occurred? :
    Yeah, right there were riots on New Years and French police can't go into certain towns! That hasn't change. The fact is you guys on the Left are in denial that you're favorite nation, France is being taken over by Islamo-Fascists. They're having kids, the French aren't!

    "Second, how does an investigation produce results if none takes place. The obligation to stop this madness rests with those who believe that our country is within a hairsbreath of collapsing from within. With that in mind, you are now endorsing a quiet, don't make political waves investigation. If the evidence is so obvious and abundant and investigation should produce results fairly quickly."

    I didn't say anything about it being quiet. I said it has to be BULLETPROOF. The last thing you want to do is make this kind of serious charge with a case full of holes. Waxman, Conyers and the rest of the Democratic chairmen have said that they are going to go after the Administration hard for their actions. (Lieberman was supposed to be on the Hurricane Katrina oversight, but he suddenly reversed position.) But some committees are still getting organized - hearings could start as early as next week.

    And the Senate Armed Services Committee and the Sernate Judiciary Committee have held hearings about the war and are now ramping up hearings on the domestic surveillance program.

    Looks like Olby finished third on Monday night, which is usually his strongest. He better keep attacking 24 or else they'll continue to take viewers away from him. Then again, O'Reilly had nearly 2.5 million viewers on Monday night (to Olby's 700,000, or 3.5-to-1), so maybe 24 isn't a direct competitor to cable news programs.

    Oh, and here's some economic news that you'll NEVER hear on Countdown:

    WASHINGTON - The Labor Department reported Thursday that consumer prices rose by 2.5 percent in 2006, the best showing since prices had increased by just 1.9 percent in 2003. The improvement came in spite of the fact that consumer prices jumped 0.5 percent in December, as gasoline prices staged a momentary rebound.

    The slowdown in inflation translated into more spending power for Americans. The government said average weekly earnings for non-supervisory workers rose by 2.1 percent last year, after adjusting for inflation. That was the biggest gain in nine years.

    Inflation-adjusted weekly earnings had fallen for three straight years, a development that Democrats argued in last fall's election campaigns showed that President Bush's economic policies were not working for the middle class.

    In other economic news, the number of newly laid off workers filing claims for unemployment benefits fell to a seasonally adjusted 290,000 last week, the lowest level in 11 months and an indication that the labor market began the new year in good shape in spite of weakness in housing and auto manufacturing.

    Meanwhile, the Commerce Department reported that construction of new homes rose by 4.5 percent in December to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 1.642 million units, raising hopes that the worst of the housing slowdown may be coming to an end.

    The 0.5 percent December increase in consumer prices had been expected, given that gasoline costs rebounded during the month. However with crude oil prices setting 19-month lows in recent weeks, the expectation is that gasoline costs will resume their downward trend and stay well below the record level of over $3 per gallon, set last summer.

    For all of 2006, energy costs rose 2.9 percent, a significant slowdown after an increase of 17.1 percent in 2005 and 16.6 percent in 2004. That price moderation occurred in recent months. After advancing at a 22.8 percent annual rate in the first six months of 2006, energy costs fell at a 13.4 percent rate in the final half of the year.

    The moderation in energy in the second half of last year helped lower the overall price increase to 2.5 percent, down from a gain of 3.4 percent in 2005, which had been the biggest price jump in five years.

    Core inflation, which excludes volatile energy and food costs, rose by 2.6 percent in 2006, up from gains of 2.2 percent in both 2004 and 2005. That was the fastest increase since a 2.7 percent rise in 2001.

    The Federal Reserve has been watching the performance of core inflation closely for signs that the surge in energy costs in recent years was breaking out to more widespread inflation troubles.

    In an effort to prevent that from occurring, the Fed raised interest rates at 17 consecutive meetings as a way of slowing overall growth enough to keep inflation under control.

    Analysts believe the central bank could start cutting interest rates by this summer if core inflation continues to show improvement.

    The report on the Consumer Price Index offered good news on that front, showing that core inflation was rising at an annual rate of 1.4 percent in the final three months of the year, just half of the 2.8 percent rate of increase turned in during the July-September quarter. It was the best showing of the year.

    KK- I am just happy to see you NOT jumping on the "This country is so f---ed up! We used to be the best! Now we suck bacause of Bush" Bandwagon.

    That is a reason I would never be liberal... I love my country Dems and Republicans!

    Reading Red Wolf try to debate Kurt Kissel is a lot like watching a comic character like Elmer Fudd try to debate Einstein!

    EE says that investigations against the President should be commenced forthwith and that . . . "Conyers and the rest of the Democratic chairmen have said that they are going to go after the Administration hard for their actions". Speaking of the esteemed representative Conyers, maybe EE hasn't been filled on the latest activities of the learned gentleman Conyers:

    "In a report released Friday, Rep. Doc Hastings, R-Wash., and Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., of the House ethics committee said Conyers acknowledged requiring his official staff to perform campaign-related work. Conyers, who is set to assume the chairmanship of the House Judiciary Committee, cited a "lack of clarity" in communicating what was expected of his staff and accepted responsibility for his actions.
    "(Conyers) agreed to take a number of additional, significant steps to ensure that his office complies with all rules and standards regarding campaign and personal work by congressional staff," said Hastings and Berman.
    The finding could provoke debate on Capitol Hill next week, The Hill said, as Democrats move to reform House ethics rules when the assume control of Congress. It might also raise questions about Conyers' role as chair of the Judiciary Committee, the newspaper said, but a spokesman for Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif. -- the incoming House Speaker -- said Conyers will chair the committee.The inquiry grew out of complaints by former staff members that Conyers had required staff to work on campaign, baby-sit his children and run personal errands."

    Note particularly the next to the last sentence--Pelosi is going to let this fool chair the committee while professing that she cares so much about ethics issues. And she has been speaker less than 2 weeks and she is already dealing w/ corruption in her own ranks. The legacy of the Clintons continues!

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/?feed=TopNews&article=UPI-1-20061230-20544400-bc-us-conyers.xml

    Also, RedState...you won't hear Olbermann seriously take on Bernanke's discussion today about the real problem with our fiscal policy....our over-extended entitlement programs:

    "Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke warned the U.S. Congress on Thursday that failure to take action soon to deal with the budgetary strains posed by an aging U.S. population could lead to serious economic harm.

    "'Unfortunately, economic growth alone is unlikely to solve the nation's impending fiscal problems,' Bernanke told the Senate Budget Committee.

    "Bernanke acknowledged that official projections suggest the U.S. budget deficit could stabilize or shrink in the next few years, but cautioned: 'We are experiencing what seems likely to be the calm before the storm.'

    "Left unchecked, the costs of so-called entitlement programs, such as Social Security and Medicare, are set to soar as increasing numbers of the baby boom generation retire.

    "'Dealing with the resulting fiscal strains will pose difficult choices for the Congress, the administration, and the American people,' Bernanke said.

    "'However, if early and meaningful action is not taken, the U.S. economy could be seriously weakened, with future generations bearing much of the cost," he added.

    "Bernanke cited projections by the Congressional Budget Office that showed spending on entitlement program would reach about 15 percent of U.S. gross domestic product by 2030"

    Cutting Defense and war spending is ok with The Democrats....but don't touch those entitlements!

    Redstate - I guess all that "good news" you just cited completely makes up for the fact that over 3000 Americans have died, and 20,000 others have been seriously injured in this incredibly stupid foreign policy adventure? I suppose it also justifies the record National debt that just keeps right on rising, and rising, and rising..?

    Don't be angry at Med Wolf and Med State, Feel sorry for them.

    In a previous post Med Wolf actually thought he was

    "Attacking Islam"

    Dream on Chicken Hawk!

    EE, in light of what was ballyhooed and vociferously promised you seem surprisingly satisfied by a meager appetiser.

    The Dem leadership is very experienced as both House members and the party in power. They have known they would control the House and the basic parameters for over two months. They had outlined for years the need for investigations and shape and focus of those investigations.

    And that is not even bringing up their seeming reluctance to use the power of the purse to influence and change the ability of the CIC to continue with this immoral war and wholesale power grab.

    I still contend that they are not living up to their rhetoric because it could be very damaging politically.

    Personally, I'm quite happy to see them renege. Are you?

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Nah- Fox News isn't Fair and Balanced.
    Tonight's primetime guests include Hillary and Colbert. Can't wait to see your overhyped hero KeithO's ratings for tonight while Stephen Colbert is on O'Reilley. Loser!

    "I still contend that they are not living up to their rhetoric because it could be very damaging politically."

    Grammy-The Republicons have been in power for well over a decade. Bush has been in office for 6 years. The Dems have been in control of congress for exactly 17 days.

    Patience my dear, Patience my dear!

    "I still contend that they are not living up to their rhetoric because it could be very damaging politically."

    Isn't saying you're going to do one thing, and then doing another damaging politically?

    Ask Bush, he might have the answer to that one.

    Stay the Course.

    During an October 22, 2006 interview on ABC’s This Week, President Bush tried to distance himself from what has been his core strategy in Iraq for the last three years. George Stephanopoulos asked about James Baker’s plan to develop a strategy for Iraq that is “between ’stay the course’ and ‘cut and run.’”

    Bush responded, ‘We’ve never been stay the course, George!

    BUSH: We will stay the course. [8/30/06]

    BUSH: We will stay the course, we will complete the job in Iraq. [8/4/05]

    BUSH: We will stay the course until the job is done, Steve. And the temptation is to try to get the President or somebody to put a timetable on the definition of getting the job done. We’re just going to stay the course. [12/15/03]

    BUSH: And my message today to those in Iraq is: We’ll stay the course. [4/13/04]

    BUSH: And that’s why we’re going to stay the course in Iraq. And that’s why when we say something in Iraq, we’re going to do it. [4/16/04]

    BUSH: And so we’ve got tough action in Iraq. But we will stay the course. [4/5/04]

    Redstate - I guess all that "good news" you just cited completely makes up for the fact that over 3000 Americans have died, and 20,000 others have been seriously injured in this incredibly stupid foreign policy adventure?

    This is classic Olby thinking. There can be no "good news" while Bush is President.

    This should be the focus of a topic all its own, as a columnist, Lowell Ponte, has cited "Krazy" Keith (and his - and his leftist sycophants' - attacks on "24") in an article about the terrorist threat and the very real possibility of "dirty bombs" going off in one or more U.S. cities (you know, the threat that Olberthehill doesn't take even remotely seriously):

    http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/1/17/105719.shtml

    RedState:

    Since you love to cite numbers and ratings. So, why didn't you also cite Tuesday's numbers, as well as Monday's, which clearly showed KO back in second place, well above 3rd place Zahn and comfortably leading his own network....again!

    For some wierd reason, it seems to me KO's ratings are more important to the KO haters like yourself than they are to the people who actually like him. Why is that?

    KO is obviously one of those love-him-or-hate-him characters, and you should really appreciate that. After all, so is this President who you keep defending so aggressively.

    Did you also see the new report on Inside Cable News showing that damned liberal anti-war activist Jon Stewart as being ahead of O'Reilly in the America's favorite TV personality contest?

    Charlie Kane would be oh so proud of "Citizen Keith" Another great review of Olbyplanet.


    L.F.

    Rico,
    Olbermann only speaks the truth. You guys hate him for that. His name will echo through eternity!

    Posted by: The Buffalo at January 17, 2007 9:38 PM

    --------

    is that the hallelujah chorus i hear playing...?

    "I still contend that they are not living up to their rhetoric because it could be very damaging politically."

    It may not even have to come from the Congress - there is a possibility, using Section 603 of the Jefferson Rules of the U.S. House of Representatives, that a state legislature could pass a resolution calling for the impeachment of the President. It would then be sent to the House, where any member can acknowledge it and then it is moved to the top of the procedural ladder for debate.

    The state of New Mexico is "fast-tracking" such a resolution in their current 60-day session. If it were to pass, no governor's signature is required for it to become effective.

    Did you also see the new report on Inside Cable News showing that damned liberal anti-war activist Jon Stewart as being ahead of O'Reilly in the America's favorite TV personality contest?

    Posted by: Mike at January 18, 2007 12:35 PM

    Where does Olbermann rank???

    FYI:

    If you're playing at home and trying to tell the spoofers from the real folks, Buffalo refers to himself as 'Buffalo' while people who are pretending to be him (poorly I might add) go by 'The Buffalo."

    Lets see, lets discuss Olbermann:

    - Olbermann lies! Probably not intentionally, but guilty of distortion and hyperbole at times!

    - Olbermann is obsessed with O'Reilly! Yea, probably!

    - Olbermann is too 'liberal'! I don't know, since mostly what he talks about is the war and Constitutional issues. Maybe he's just anti- Republican and anti-Bush.

    - Olbermann calls himself a 'newsman' when he's actually a commentator! Yea, probably.

    - Olbermann doesn't debate! Yea, but it's not really that kind of a show. There's plenty of 'debate' shows on anyway.

    OK, nuff said about that. Next subject please!


    Posted by: Mike at January 17, 2007 10:39 PM

    --------
    That's all we ask for, Mike...I wish KO could be like you

    "There can be no "good news" while Bush is President."

    Cancer deaths are down.

    Little Ben Ownby is home.

    Sure there can, it just seldom has anything to with Bush and his failed policies.

    "That's all we ask for, Mike...I wish KO could be like you."

    That's all we ask for Fred Bear, I wish more people posting here could be like you!

    Attn: Johnny Dollar

    You know, after reading several of your posts about various episodes of COUNTDOWN, i'm starting to sense a pattern in not only your writing, but your 'thought process' as well. Not only do you rehash the same monikers and ham-fisted jokes about Olbermann, but you don't seem to see the larger picture at work here. You're doing exactly what you are 'railing' against: spinning. But, that seems to be standard operating procedure in 'news' and the rehashing of that news on the internet these days from all sides ( i'll refrain from using any of the obvious labels, seeing as how people seem to think that if they slap a label on someone that it validates their thinking, no matter what that thinking is ). So, my question to you is this: are your political and social opinions derived from research and 'facts' or are you simply decrying Olbermann ( and other NBC employees ) because that's what's so popular now? Having recently found this site, i'm wondering what your point in all this really is.

    "And that is not even bringing up their seeming reluctance to use the power of the purse to influence and change the ability of the CIC to continue with this immoral war and wholesale power grab."

    Great truth Grammie... and all you get in response is....

    Patience!

    Well, again the moral argument really loses its credibility when all that is being offerred is a NONBINDING RESOLUTION AFTER THE STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS!

    Wow, that'll really be a bold move!

    IF the left in this country did know how to act morally or honorably Senator Kennedy's bill would be being debated already....It is all politcial showmanship...."I'm against the war and increasing troop numbers." Then.......nothing!

    Come on guys...where is your action? Let's get this done already....A Kennedy-Hagel Bill just like The Cooper-Church Amendment....for goodness sake, it took 6 months to over-ride the fillibuster in the Senate in 1970 and it still didn't pass until it was watered down in early 1971!....What about all this killing?

    How about that Iraq War funding?.....let me repeat Sgt. Liam Madden AGAIN:

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too."

    Hello?...Leftists?

    Cee:

    It's good to see somebody on your side referring to something Senator Kennedy did as honorable...we don't see that very often.

    Remember that the Democrats are simply the lesser of two evils. As things stand, they have become that little knoll in the path of the rolling snowball. They are far from ideal themselves, nor do they seem to be the ideal answer, mainly because they won't stand together.

    KK,
    "But, if I might ask: What is more French than a demonstration turned rough? It's as French as creme brulee."

    Only it's done by Frenchmen, but bt Islamic invaders. French Islamic groups openly brag about turning France into an Islamic state and withing a generation they will have the numbers!
    But like all on the Left this doesn't disturb you. Thank God for Hispanic immigration here, at leat America will remain American!

    Come on guys...where is your action? Let's get this done already....A Kennedy-Hagel Bill just like The Cooper-Church Amendment....for goodness sake, it took 6 months to over-ride the fillibuster in the Senate in 1970 and it still didn't pass until it was watered down in early 1971!....What about all this killing?

    How about that Iraq War funding?.....let me repeat Sgt. Liam Madden AGAIN:

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too."

    Hello?...Leftists?

    ____________________________________________

    Wow, conservatives and soldiers alike rooting the Dems into action. This place has gotten a bit weird lately.

    I think Johnny's off doing more 'research'

    "Wow, conservatives and soldiers alike rooting the Dems into action. This place has gotten a bit weird lately."

    I am just trying to instill some honesty in a debate that should no longer be politcal, partisan or superficial anymore. Forget 2008 for 6 months and let's get this war argument resloved!

    I think the Dems should cut funding off for Iraq. It's a waste. If we're not going to level that shithole, why be there! Screw them let the Shia and Sunni kill each other! Either we we won. Instaed of having Muslims against us, now they all want to kill each other. Bring the troops home, not just from Iraq, but from Afganistan, Germany, Korea, Bosnia, Kossovo and Japan. Screw the world let's focus on home!

    ....resolved under The guidance of The US Constitution.

    ""I still contend that they are not living up to their rhetoric because it could be very damaging politically."

    Grammy-The Republicons have been in power for well over a decade. Bush has been in office for 6 years. The Dems have been in control of congress for exactly 17 days.

    Patience my dear, Patience my dear!

    Posted by: at January 18, 2007 12:25 PM"

    You have misinterpreted and misrepresented my post in your response.

    First, I said they have KNOWN for over two months that they would return to power and the basic parameters of that control of the house. I would not believe anyone who said they had not made and could not make plans in that time. Would you?

    Second, I said that the Dem's leadership is very experienced both as members and as the party in control of the House. That fourteen years of Repub control did not wipe the years of experience from the Dem leadership.

    From Rep Conyers own bio sketch:

    " elected as a Democrat to the Eighty-ninth and to the twenty-one succeeding Congresses (January 3, 1965-present); one of the managers appointed by the House of Representatives in 1988 to conduct the impeachment proceedings against Alcee Lamar Hastings, judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida; chair, Committee on Government Operations (One Hundred First through One Hundred Third Congresses); chair, Commitee on the Judiciary (One Hundred Tenth Congress)."

    From Rep Waxman's own bio sketch:

    "Answer Rep. Waxman began his service in 1974. Prior to that time, Rep. Waxman served three terms in the California State Assembly,".......

    Committee on Oversight and Government Reform
    In 2007, Rep. Waxman became Chairman of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, the principal investigative committee in the House. From 1997 to 2006, Rep. Waxman served as Ranking Member of the Committee, conducting investigations into a wide range of topics from the high cost of prescription drugs to waste, fraud, and abuse in government contracting. He formed a Special Investigations Division that prepared hundreds of investigative reports on local and national topics for Members of Congress."

    From Speaker Pelosi's own website:

    "Since 1987, Nancy Pelosi has represented California's Eighth District in the House of Representatives. The Eighth District includes most of the City of San Francisco including Golden Gate Park, Fisherman's Wharf, Chinatown, and many of the diverse neighborhoods that make San Francisco a vibrant and prosperous community.Overwhelmingly elected by her colleagues in the fall of 2002 as Democratic Leader of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi is the first woman in American history to lead a major party in the U.S. Congress. Before being elected Leader, she served as House Democratic Whip for one year and was responsible for the party's legislative strategy in the House. On January 4, 2007, Nancy Pelosi was elected Speaker of the United States House of Representatives."

    These three alone have a total of 82 years experience in the House, 36 years in the minority and 46 in the majority. An awesome record to my mind. My contention is that the Dems have enough experience AND pwer to hit the ground running.

    And they did. Look at what they did when they took the reins compared to what their rhetoric was.

    Ain't politics grand?

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Screw the world! It's time for Fortress america. Splendid Islolation is the way to go! After we level Iran WW2 style!

    "FYI:

    If you're playing at home and trying to tell the spoofers from the real folks, Buffalo refers to himself as 'Buffalo' while people who are pretending to be him (poorly I might add) go by 'The Buffalo."

    Posted by: Upon Further Review at January 18, 2007 1:00 PM"

    My observation in the the spirit of this. Kurt Kissel may have an imposter on his heels.

    The dead giveawy is the imposter uses paragraphs. :)

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    You guys here are just upset Olby is a hero. You guys here are just upset Olby is a hero. He's standing up to this Fascist regime for the people. Unlike your hero the Chimp, Keith cares about the average American and has fought for many causes including a cure for cancer. Olbermann was recently cited for his great charitable works. He helped build houses for the poor recently in Michigan! He's a great man and will be remembered as the American Mandela! He's the true heir to Martin Luther King! He's America conscious!

    The 1:06 post could not possibly be the 'Brandon' we all now and love. Brandon could never articulate that well, nor could he possibly be that objective. And I can't see him taking on his hero, Johnny, under ANY circumstances.

    However, this new poster may not really be an imposter. Maybe he just didn't realize the name was already taken.

    Opama - BEGONE, KNAVE!

    Yeesh...

    Opama 1:53 was yet ANOTHER imposter. I wonder why Robert doesn't do something about this idiot. Does he LIKE having someone screw up his discussion board by having someone constantly pose as other posters, and then spew over the top rhetoric?

    To all the good guys, I don't know any of the technology or details how the internet and blogs (correct term?) work.

    So I may be suggesting an impossibly difficult process.

    I would like to see some way to stop or mitigate this constant hijacking of the debate and the site by those who obviously have no intention of playing the unspoken rules.

    Any seconds?

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    To all the good guys, I don't know any of the technology or details how the internet and blogs (correct term?) work.

    So I may be suggesting an impossibly difficult process.

    I would like to see some way to stop or mitigate this constant hijacking of the debate and the site by those who obviously have no intention of playing the unspoken rules.

    Any seconds?

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    I'm sorry. I had a brain disfunction and hit post twice.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Seconds!

    The Opama at 2:03 is an imposter. I'm the rule one who admires Olbermann the great humanitarian.
    He will win the Noebel prize!

    I am just trying to instill some honesty in a debate that should no longer be politcal, partisan or superficial anymore. Forget 2008 for 6 months and let's get this war argument resloved!

    Posted by: cee at January 18, 2007 1:25 PM

    Couldn't agree more. It's far too important to be name-calling partisans!

    I didn't start distrusting Bush until a few years into his presidency. Even though I had serious reservations as to his intellect. The Dems could very well be full of hot air and end up looking stupid, but let's wait a little longer and cee.

    In watching the numbers in the little ratings game, it appears that it is not so much that KO's numbers vary that much. It seems to be more that Paula Zahn's numbers fluctuate so wildly. Could it be that her show is so much more subject driven than personality?

    I agree Grammie....I am now second guessing posts and holding back because I don't want to falsly accuse someone of something they did not say!

    An example....it is possible OZ (Colbert) said the following on Tuesday, 1/16/07 10:25PM (he's almost become this mean to me in the past).....

    "I hate Bush, I hate Christians. The radical Right must die!"

    But on further reflection, and the increasing obvious activity of imposters, I decided to give OZ the benefit of the doubt that he would post such garbage.

    I am so confused!....Robert help us!

    I was kind of hoping that I would win the Nobel prize.

    Olbermann has done more to bring awareness to the plight of Aids in Africa than Bono! Olbermann is a great caring man!

    This site is full of Chicken Hawks! You guys attack a real hero like Olbermann, who has reported from some of the most dangerous places on Earth. He has more balls than any of you Rightwing cowards will have!

    Mr Anonymous,
    You take potshots at us and yet don'tleave a name? You're the chicken blogger!

    Mr. Red Wolf:

    Where did an 'anonymous' take a "pot shot" at you? I looked back and couldn't find one, not recently anyway.

    That said, I am occasionally guilty of posting under 'anonymous' myself, simply because I forgot to fill in the name blank on that particular post.

    But that's not even in the same league as someone taking over a name that they KNOW is currently being used by an active blogger....and trying to make it appear they said something ridiculous that they did not, and would not say!

    THAT is what everyone is complaining about.

    Great article dissecting GWB's dysfunctional psyche
    and how we all got into this mess in the first place.
    Posted here for clear-thinking liberals who care.
    As the nitwits on the irrational right
    would begin gnashing teeth were they to read it,
    as it plumbs the depths of many non-sectarian-regressive realities the right can't handle,
    like intelligence, nuance, insight, psychology, and Bill Clinton.
    http://www.alternet.org/story/46794/

    He's a chicken blogger! Without a brain! Cut and paste queen!

    "Great article dissecting GWB's dysfunctional psyche"

    No, it's simply a second rate hatchet job, devoid of any empirical evidence upon which to base its wildly speculative conclusions that could have been written by dozens of other hacks like Ivins, Dowd, Clift and similarly deluded left wing fringe smear artists. To gain true insight into GWB you should read something by someone who really knows him and understands him. I recommend Rebel in Chief by Fred Barnes.

    http://www.amazon.com/Rebel-Chief-Inside-Controversial-Presidency/dp/0307336492/sr=8-1/qid=1169150972/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5052991-8048723?ie=UTF8&s=books

    The leftwing cowards are out in full force today. "Bush lied, Bush lied, Iraq was not a threat, were all cowards" The only reason we needed to go to war with Iraq is that Sadam violated the terms of his countries surrender. He shot at U.S. planes and he violated 19 UN resolutions. Would we have allowed Japan or Germany to shoot at U.S. planes or throw out our weapons inspectors after they surrender? Well I guess if Olbermann and his friends ran the country we would. I would like any of you moon bats to justify WWI with the same logic you use to condemn this war.

    Mike, you may have misinterpreted Red Wolf, comment.

    I thought he was replying to: "Posted by: at January 18, 2007 2:36 PM"

    I've noticed Red Wolf, or anyone else for that matter, address an 'anon' as Mr Anonymous.

    Additionally the point by Red Wolf contextually addresses January 18, 2007 2:36 PM post. 'Chicken Hawks' accusation by an anonymous 'chicken blogger'.

    Red Wolf spoke for me on that one.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Correction, I've NEVER noticed.

    Sorry.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    I read the article at the link, blankman 2:59PM.....

    An silly, childish attempt at a polemic without evidence to support the accusations.....

    and worse....Ms. Smiley's work contributes nothing constructive to the problems we face as a nation.

    It was essentially cocktail hour conjecture from the liberal ruling class.

    Stop wasting our time, and valuable bandwidth!

    You're right Grammie, I'll give you that. For some reason I dodn't notice that ridiculous comment right above his.

    However, I suspect that comment might have been a spoof too because of the KO "has reported from the most dangerous places on Earth", and the 'hero' parts.

    Cee,
    I be Mr. Anonymous is the guy who's hijacking names.I don't even know who's who anymore. My name has been hijacked several times. My gut instinct it's that phoney Vet Rightwingers are Cowards and Buffalo! Ever since I challenged him to give me his contact info, he's stop posting. Since then my name and other people's name have been hijacked. He's obviously a frusted loser wiorking the nightshift at Wendy's!

    Guantanamo Bay Naval Base, Cuba -- I AM WRITING from the darkness of the U.S. detention camp at Guantanamo in the hope that I can make our voices heard by the world. My hand quivers as I hold the pen.

    In January 2002, I was picked up in Pakistan, blindfolded, shackled, drugged and loaded onto a plane flown to Cuba. When we got off the plane in Guantanamo, we did not know where we were. They took us to Camp X-Ray and locked us in cages with two buckets — one empty and one filled with water. We were to urinate in one and wash in the other.

    At Guantanamo, soldiers have assaulted me, placed me in solitary confinement, threatened to kill me, threatened to kill my daughter and told me I will stay in Cuba for the rest of my life. They have deprived me of sleep, forced me to listen to extremely loud music and shined intense lights in my face. They have placed me in cold rooms for hours without food, drink or the ability to go to the bathroom or wash for prayers. They have wrapped me in the Israeli flag and told me there is a holy war between the Cross and the Star of David on one hand and the Crescent on the other. They have beaten me unconscious.

    What I write here is not what my imagination fancies or my insanity dictates. These are verifiable facts witnessed by other detainees, representatives of the Red Cross, interrogators and translators.

    During the first few years at Guantanamo, I was interrogated many times. My interrogators told me that they wanted me to admit that I am from Al Qaeda and that I was involved in the terrorist attacks on the United States. I told them that I have no connection to what they described. I am not a member of Al Qaeda. I did not encourage anyone to go fight for Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden have done nothing but kill and denigrate a religion. I never fought, and I never carried a weapon. I like the United States, and I am not an enemy. I have lived in the United States, and I wanted to become a citizen.

    I know that the soldiers who did bad things to me represent themselves, not the United States. And I have to say that not all American soldiers stationed in Cuba tortured us or mistreated us. There were soldiers who treated us very humanely. Some even cried when they witnessed our dire conditions. Once, in Camp Delta, a soldier apologized to me and offered me hot chocolate and cookies. When I thanked him, he said, "I do not need you to thank me." I include this because I do not want readers to think that I fault all Americans.

    But, why, after five years, is there no conclusion to the situation at Guantanamo? For how long will fathers, mothers, wives, siblings and children cry for their imprisoned loved ones? For how long will my daughter have to ask about my return? The answers can only be found with the fair-minded people of America.

    I would rather die than stay here forever, and I have tried to commit suicide many times. The purpose of Guantanamo is to destroy people, and I have been destroyed. I am hopeless because our voices are not heard from the depths of the detention center.

    If I die, please remember that there was a human being named Jumah at Guantanamo whose beliefs, dignity and humanity were abused. Please remember that there are hundreds of detainees at Guantanamo suffering the same misfortune. They have not been charged with any crimes. They have not been accused of taking any action against the United States.

    Show the world the letters I gave you. Let the world read them. Let the world know the agony of the detainees in Cuba.

    "If I die, please remember that there was a human being named Jumah at Guantanamo whose beliefs, dignity and humanity were abused."

    Jumah,
    Drop dead!

    "They have wrapped me in the Israeli flag and told me there is a holy war between the Cross and the Star of David on one hand and the Crescent on the other. They have beaten me unconscious"

    Those soldiers should be given medals! Too bad they didn't kill Jumah!

    Fred Barnes, executive editor of The Weekly Standard, is one of those figures who drifts in and out of political consciousness: genial, conservative, always on television and rarely very memorable. But Barnes plays a particular, and to some quite important, role in the Washington media and political establishment. Where Bill Kristol may show more fealty to his conservatism than his president, or where Ann Coulter is too vitriolic for the good of her own side, you can always find Barnes calmly toeing the administration's line. When even FOX News panelists seemed uncomfortable with the administration's position on torture, there was Barnes defending the policy. When the president nominated Harriet Miers--and most conservative commentators and intellectuals rebelled--there was Barnes supporting the choice. He is the perfect Bush hack. Barnes's obsequiousness, on display in his new book, Rebel-in-Chief: Inside the Bold and Controversial Presidency of George W. Bush (Crown Forum, $23.95), is so deep it leaves you wondering what motivates it.

    Rebel-in-Chief's portrait of Bush is fawning and at times unintentionally amusing. It is also unlikely to change any partisan minds. What it does reflect is the startling conviction that movement Republicans--after five years of complete GOP control of every branch of government--somehow remain political underdogs in the nation's capital.

    Barnes's readers are handed the dispiriting spectacle of a very experienced writer in pursuit of a very dubious thesis. The book has two ever-present goals, and they are not entirely distinct from each other. The first is to show that Bush is a brave leader, willing to trust his gut and do what he thinks is right. When Barnes meets the president in the Oval Office, we get this paragraph:"[Bush's] job, he told me, is to 'stay out of the minutiae...' To stress the point, Bush called my attention to the rug; he had been surprised, he said, to learn that the first decision a president is expected to make is what color the rug should be. 'I wasn't aware that presidents were rug designers,' he told me. So, he delegated the task, to Laura. Typical of his governing style, though, he gave a clear principle as guidance: He wanted the rug to express the view that an 'optimistic person comes here.' The rug she designed is sunrise yellow." Lest the reader miss the point, Barnes inserts some helpful exposition: "Bush is a big picture person, eager to concentrate on major issues and delegate smaller ones. That explains why he let Laura design the Oval Office rug."

    Having framed Bush as a man of principle in matters of interior design, Barnes wants to argue that this characteristic also explains his domestic policies. The huge spending binge of the last five years presents a problem for conservative defenders of Bush. There are two honest ways for them to address this part of the president's record. The first is to say that the (non-defense and Homeland Security) spending increases were simply made to capture votes, and thus farm subsidies and prescription drug benefits and the like are necessary to sustain Republican Congressional majorities and control the White House. The second is to say that conservatives do not care about the deficit as long as tax cuts keep coming. What we get from Barnes is this: "[Bush's] view of government is Hamiltonian: It's a valuable tool to achieve security, prosperity, and the common good. His strategy is to use government as a means to achieve conservative ends." Later in this same paragraph Barnes notes that some of these ends are not really conservative at all. But rather than admitting that perhaps Bush has political priorities like all other politicians, he lets the clear implication of his own words go unmentioned. This is a defense of Bush you don't hear even from right-leaning magazines and talk shows, who frequently attack the president for an insufficient commitment to conservative values.

    At this point in the narrative, the main question before the reader is why the book is so adulatory. It would be easy to say that Barnes has simply traded away his integrity and become a partisan because the pay is better, and it allows him to write books like this, which I imagine will sell quite well. But Rebel-in-Chief is so sincere that one is left with the unmistakable impression that Barnes really does see Bush as a serious underdog, that the establishment is truly out to get him. Which completely undercuts Barnes's ability to appraise Bush honestly.

    The above poster was me.

    Mr Anonymous,
    What's your point with these stupid articles no one cares about!

    On The Factor, Bill was pointing out disgraceful record of The People's Republic of Vermont on child abuse. He even showed the disgraceful judge in the case run and hide from the truth.
    This loser Olberfool continued to vomit democrat talking points. He never shows one of these judges, who ruin children’s lives, as his "worst person". But who cares about children when you can spout propaganda.

    Mike, you're right about the dangerous reporting being fallacious. But that is not conclusive to my mind that the post is a spoof.

    There are some on this site who would defend KO to the death (hyperbole, I know) over the slightest perceived refusal to acknowledge KO as a great man.

    Either way, the fault is with Chicken Blogger from start to finish.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    I think Red Wolf has hit on a good strategy. From now on all these anon types are going to be Chicken Blogger to me.

    This site is going down hill! With name changers, spoofers and people just posting articles that no one cares about!

    Bill O's been voted most admired male TV personality!
    Let's see Dobberman pulling some magic portions out of his @$$ to refute this.
    BTW rumor has it Dobberman has been given his 4m$ salary request.

    Factor:

    You don't really deserve a response because of you're cowardly 'cowards' remark, but I will give you one anyway.

    IF shooting (but not hitting) at US planes in the No Fly Zone and throwing out weapons inspectors (who they later let back in under threat) was proper justification for invading a third world country, then THAT is the justification that should have originally been put forth to Congress and the American People as justification for the invasion, NOT "mushroom clouds", aluminum tubes, WMD, and certainly not 911. Don't ever forget one thing...Iraq NEVER attacked US.

    When we choose to go into any elective war, it should be because it is inarguably in our OWN best interst to do so, NOT to exact revenge, teach somebody a lesson, or exert dominance.

    By the way, arn't you the same Einstein that equated being a 'Socialist' with questioning whether or not Army weapons systems work as they should or not? I'm still waiting to hear how you came up with that masterpiece of brilliance?

    The poster at 1:06 was not me. Just another spineless liberal coward pretending to be someone far better than they will ever be.

    Oh, and 'Facto"....(you must really worship this guy since you keep quoting his show and even named yourself after him):

    KO is not talking about the Vermont child abuse case because his is primarily a POLITICAL show. Now, show me some evidence that he supports or coddles child abusers? There are PLENTY of shows on that highlight this kind of thing, his doesn't need to be another one! You couls accuse hardball of doing the same thing.

    MSNBC on the whole, however, has been quite active on the front against child abuse, or have you been so busy watching Fox, that you have completely missed the "To Catch a Predator" series?

    But KO will talk about Lindsey Lohan and Paris Hilton and whatever is the latest bimbo of the month. Try again Mike. We're all familiar enough with Olbermann's program to know that he has covered kidnapping cases, he has covered court cases, etc on his show. He just chose not to cover that like he chooses not to cover any number of topics. It's not that his is "primarily" a political show. That's more of your lies and BS as you spin for Olbermann, you know, the guy you say that you don't care about?

    Attention all Keith haters...STICK THIS IN YOUR EAR>


    "I think it's really kind of sad and pathetic, some of the things that he's been lobbing at us these days," Capus told reporters here. "I don't quite understand it. I assume it's because Keith Olbermann has had such tremendous growth and there's real momentum behind Keith's broadcast."
    O'Reilly has long been the ratings leader in cable news. But Olbermann, who has stepped up commentary criticizing President Bush in the last five months, has seen some ratings growth opposite O'Reilly.

    As O'Reilly has been criticizing NBC, prime-time host Joe Scarborough of MSNBC has criticized him, making O'Reilly a frequent topic on the MSNBC program.

    "As far as I'm concerned, he's not commenting on NBC News," Capus said. "He's just trying to do this personal feud. The more he does it, the more success we have, so he can do it any time he wants, as far as I'm concerned. And I think the audience knows exactly what's at play here."

    "On The Factor, Bill was pointing out disgraceful record of The People's Republic of Vermont on child abuse. He even showed the disgraceful judge in the case run and hide from the truth."

    Once again it was the PROSECUTOR'S call to make as to the case, NOT the judge. The prosecutor chose NOT to pursue the case and to plead it down. YOU are making a decision with only a fraction of the facts. And the people who know all the facts of the case (including legisltors who were briefed after O'Reilly got his nose out of joint about it) AGREED that the plea was the best option available because there was too much risk of total acquittal at trial.

    Yes, he got probation. LIFETIME probation. Which means if he commits ANY CRIME (even spitting on the sidewalk), he GOES TO PRISON.

    And Vermont recently passed new laws tightening minimum sentences for sex offenses. But they could not be applied in this case because the crime occured BEFORE the law went into effect.

    "This loser Olberfool continued to vomit democrat talking points. He never shows one of these judges, who ruin children’s lives, as his 'worst person'"

    WRONG!! Edward Cashman was named Runner-up Worst Person on January 6, 2006.

    You want to come up with uncreative nicknames and useless name calling, I can't stop you, but I can leave you with this:

    You just don't get it
    Ratings for the factor still fall
    Go eat a loofah

    "This loser Olberfool continued to vomit democrat talking points. He never shows one of these judges, who ruin children's lives, as his 'worst person'"

    WRONG!! Edward Cashman was named Runner-up Worst Person on January 6, 2006.

    You want to come up with uncreative nicknames and useless name calling, I can't stop you, but I can leave you with this:

    You just don't get it
    Ratings for the factor still fall
    Go eat a loofah

    Mike,
    Olbermann devotes time to celebrety gossip, why doesn't he go after judges that let pedophiles off? How come all he does is bash America but he gives Iran, China, Venezueala and Noth Korea a pass? Why is that? How come he cheerleades for Hillary Clinton and Obamam adn claims to be non partisan? Why does he admit he's a Leftist and his show if the Left's answer to MIchael Savage?
    If he was honest, then I wouldn't attack him. I don't attack Bill Maher because he's honest!

    Brandon:

    All I can say is that I personally watch his show for Political reasons ONLY. I agree that the Paris Hilton crap is, well....crap! However, I think he does that for comic relief, and not hard news.

    Brandon: I ACCIDENTLY penned your name in above, because I had it on my mind at the time...my apologoes!

    Brandon is addressing Brandon @ 3:57 PM. Would the real Brandon please stand up.

    This is getting surreal.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Mike, why don't you check off the 'Remember Me' circle and you won't have that problem anymore.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Heck Red Wolf, I'm cheerleading for Obama myself (but not so much Hillary). And yes, I REALLY do wish we could see more of Bill Maher without having to subscribe to HBO to do so!

    O'Reilly did show the cowardly prosecutor. I am sure it is great comfort to the parents of that child that the monster who destroyed their child's life is on "LIFETIME" probation. Why don't you move next door to him, since lifetime probation will protect your kids.

    Olbermann mouthpiece Barry has dropped in for another visit with his usual distortions, which one would expect from an Olby sycophant.

    Barry, regrdless of what Mr. Steve Capus says, BOR has completely ignored Olbermann for a very long time in spite of Olby's pathological obsession. Now it appears that not only is Olby obsessed w/ trying to get BOR to say something-- anything-- about Olbermann, but Capus is obsessed with it too. Meanwhile, Olby's ratings remain far behind in BOR's rear view mirror as Olby gets humiliated night after night in the ratings game.

    Mike,
    That's not my point. If you want Barack Hussein Obama to run, that's up to you. The point about Bill Maher is that he's an honest Leftist. I respect that hence that's why I don't bash him. He's entitled to his opinion. Olbermann acts like he's holier than thou, claims to be non-partisan and condemns people for the very same things he does. He's a hypocrite! Hence that's why there's Olbermann watch. To expose him for the Leftwing hack he is!

    Red Wolf:

    Well, obvously we disagree that KO is a "leftwing hack", and nothing either one of us can say will change that, so lets just move on.

    I think Bill Maher actually calls himslf a 'libertarian'.

    I usually don't watch "The Factor' or 'Colbert', you can bet I will be watching both tonight (if I can just get home in time).

    I just did Janet. Believe it or not, I'm a little bit backwards on this computer stuff!

    Kurt Kissel,
    Who cares about the Guatanomo detainees! Jusk kill them I say!

    EE said ""On The Factor, Bill was pointing out disgraceful record of The People's Republic of Vermont on child abuse. He even showed the disgraceful judge in the case run and hide from the truth."

    Once again it was the PROSECUTOR'S call to make as to the case, NOT the judge. The prosecutor chose NOT to pursue the case and to plead it down. YOU are making a decision with only a fraction of the facts. And the people who know all the facts of the case (including legisltors who were briefed after O'Reilly got his nose out of joint about it) AGREED that the plea was the best option available because there was too much risk of total acquittal at trial.

    Yes, he got probation. LIFETIME probation. Which means if he commits ANY CRIME (even spitting on the sidewalk), he GOES TO PRISON.

    And Vermont recently passed new laws tightening minimum sentences for sex offenses. But they could not be applied in this case because the crime occured BEFORE the law went into effect. " From O"reilly "Well, if I don't know what I'm talking about, set me straight, right? Where exactly are we misreporting?

    The truth is that we have told the truth.

    Vermont prosecutor Andrew Costello didn't want to take the case to trial because he thought the little boy would not be a good witness. But there are other witnesses, as we explained. And Costello hid out � hid out � when we traveled to Vermont to talk with him.

    Once again, Vermont is a restorative justice state. It believes the most heinous criminals should be rehabilitated. Its legislature voted down Jessica's Law shortly after that horrific 60-day sentence from Judge Cashman.

    Are my facts wrong on that? Are they?

    Vermont is a perfect example of a state held hostage by a corrupt secular progressive power structure that is bringing shame on what was once an outstanding place to live.

    You want to debate putting a 4-year old on the stand? We're up for that debate. You want to put a violent, convicted felon child molester back on the street without a court fight? We're not up for that. "
    As for the it not being the Judge's call GEORGIA GOSLEE, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: "Well, I'm rather outraged about it, Bill, actually, because statutory authority in Vermont allows a couple of things to happen.

    First of all, there can be a determination by the court as to whether or not the child testifying in court may become traumatized. Upon the finding by the court, and that can be made by the judge who assigns it or by any party, by the prosecution or by the defense attorney or by guardian ad litem." This guy also attacked his wife with a screwdriver and is a violent convicted felon. As for "LIFETIME probation " That only applies if you catch him. Would you want this guy next door to you and feel safe because if he's caught again he goes away? And how about if he is caught again? Why do you put him out there to do it again anyway? Does that console his next and last victim? Cases like these are what really make me mad. Yet LIBS cooly state their facts are the best way to go. Yet they break a blood vessel if GWB is even mentioned.


    WHITE HOUSE BACKS OFF ILLEGAL SPYING (RULED UNCONSTITUTIONAL) THAT IT SWEARS WAS LEGAL

    -- Gonzales Grilled By Senators; Lies As Best He Can; Further Erodes BushCO Credibility --

    WASHINGTON -- Senators demanded details Thursday from Attorney General Alberto Gonzales about new orders putting the government's domestic spying program under court review -- and questioned why it took so long to do so. Last August, a federal judge in Detroit declared the spying program unconstitutional, saying it violated the rights to free speech and privacy and the separation of powers. Bush secretly authorized the program shortly after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks and vigorously defended it as essential to national security after it was revealed in December 2005. He will not reauthorize the program once it expires, officials said.


    > He never shows one of these judges, who ruin children’s lives, as his 'worst person'"
    > WRONG!! Edward Cashman was named Runner-up Worst Person on January 6, 2006.

    Runner-up worst person is NOT "worst person". It's "worser" but not worst. So the first statement is correct.

    "The rule of law keeps nations and peoples strong and secure. If we ignore the rule of law, Boston becomes Bagdad and Kansas City becomes Kabul.
    There aren't that many Muslims in this country to do that! If they were to act up, Americans would deport or exterminate the leaches!
    Besides the people at Guantanomo are foreigners! Dump them in the Carribean! America should look out for itself, screw the Eurotrash runned UN!

    How well did the terrorist treat their prisoners? Well they cut their heads off on TV. Maybe Bush doesn't want the terrorist to go to trial because he is worried they will go before judges like the ones in the People's Republic of Vermont and "LIFE TIME PROBATION". Bill O already showed Quantanamo and how the terrorists are being pampered. We all now know that you believe terrorist of the US military. You are the enemy within.

    `Vermont is a perfect example of a state held hostage by a corrupt SECULAR PROGRESSIVE power structure`

    Oh yes, and we can see by the fruits of their labor on the ground, in places like New Orleans and Baghdad, that it`s much better to be held hostage by a SECTARIAN REGRESSIVE power structure like the one in the white house.

    But didn't Bill Maher once have a show on the network? A.B.C. if I remember right.

    Late night after nightline wasn't it?

    I would pay if H.B.O. didn't insist on running crappy movies over and over.

    Gee Star Wars Three, Wedding Crashers

    Well Max ain't no better. Moving Violations? I thought they burned that movie twenty years ago!!!!

    Bill Maher, I'll give him props. Along with Alan Commes and I'll throw a shout-out to Ed Schultz. And Lionel, if he's not on his "George Bush blew up the towers rant".

    But right now Jerry Doyle is on!!!!!!!!

    But Olby isn't a left wing hack. If Fox News gave him 4+million and said 'tone down the Tin Foil Hat stuff'. Olby would become a right wing hack. Which means he's just a paid hack.

    Example? Remember when he did fill in on N.B.C. Nightly News Weekend Edition? No wild eyed conspiracy nut with multi camera changes and seat twists.

    Straight forward teleprompter news reporting.

    Filling in for Paul Harvey? Nope! Rather toned down and a bit conservative I might say.

    And that! as Mr. Harvey would say is.....'The Rest Of The Story'!!!!!!!!!

    When asked about Condi as a potential president, she said: "Dr. Rice, who I think would be a really good candidate, is not interested. Probably because she is single, her parents are no longer living; she's an only child. You need a very supportive family and supportive friends to have this job."

    No, it wasn't Barbara Boxer who suggested that being a single woman is a disqualification for being president. It was Laura Bush. And no one screamed bloody murder. No one suggested it was a setback for feminism, an attack on single woman, an argument that being married and having children are qualifications for making good public policy.

    So why the hullabaloo about Barbara Boxer's comments? Simple. Conservatives need someone to blame. Their policy is bankrupt. Their war has failed. They have no answers.

    So why not beat up on Barbara Boxer? It's better that than looking in the mirror. Easier to create an issue where you can be right than to face the one where you're wrong.

    Puck,
    You're right. Olbermann isn't really a Leftists. He's just a mercenary that goes to the highest bidder. Right now NBC, George Soros, the Clintons, The Iranian Ayatollahs are lining his pockets.

    This site is going down hill! With name changers, spoofers and people just posting articles that no one cares about!

    Posted by: Red Wolf at January 18, 2007 3:34 PM

    Red Wolf is such a joke !

    He's been the main culprit for the spoofing !
    What a total hypocritical jackass he is !

    And he "doesn't care" about the articles b/c it's too much for him to read at one sitting.

    Since Little Wolfie is like our special education child here, please wherever his aide is that watches him, please come get him, take him away, and leave him ...somewhere else !

    "Brandon is addressing Brandon @ 3:57 PM. Would the real Brandon please stand up."

    Perhaps if i continue to post on this site i should change the name i post under

    "Are my facts wrong on that? Are they?"

    Yes, they are. First of all, a 4-year-old child is likely not considered a "competent witness" under the law (although Vermont does not use age as a factor, the determative issue is the child's ability to know the difference between the truth and a lie). Second, we don't know anything about the other witnesses or their credibility.

    Next, Bill (and you) are making ASSUMPTIONS without ALL THE FACTS. The prosecutor (who knows all the facts) determined that the risk of acquittal was too high. When the outcome is a choice between a guaranteed guilty plea or the HIGH chance of total acquittal, prosecutors are going to take the sure thing. This was NOT a slam-dunk case where the risk of trial was acceptable.

    "As for the it not being the Judge's call GEORGIA GOSLEE, FORMER FEDERAL PROSECUTOR: "Well, I'm rather outraged about it, Bill, actually, because statutory authority in Vermont allows a couple of things to happen"

    She's talking about TRIAL PROCESS. I'm talking about SENTENCING. Once the prosecutor and defense agree on a plea, the judge has two choices - accept the plea as agreed to or reject it and (usually) force a trial.


    FREELY-ELECTED MALIKI BLAMES BUSHCO BUMBLING; WHITE HOUSE LONGS FOR U.S. APPOINTED FIGUREHEAD

    -- Chief U.S. `Diplomat` Rice Has Foot Surgically Removed From Mouth --

    WASHINGTON -- The White House on Thursday dismissed charges by Iraq's prime minister that the United States has been slow to arm Iraqi security forces, helping insurgents and costing American and Iraqi lives, and has wavered in its support for his government. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki said the need for US troops in Iraq would drop `dramatically` in three to six months if the US speeded up equipping and arming the Iraqi military. Al-Maliki said suggestions by Bush administration officials that the US did not fully support his government had given `a morale boost` to Iraqi insurgents, referring to US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's remark last week `that his government is, in a sense, on borrowed time, not just in terms of the American people, but in terms of the Iraqi people.`


    Runner-up worst person is NOT "worst person". It's "worser" but not worst. So the first statement is correct.

    Posted by: johnny dollar at January 18, 2007 4:56 PM


    OMG, johnny rotten explaining to us the nuances of Countdown. THAT is funny.

    "The poster at 1:06 was not me. Just another spineless liberal coward pretending to be someone far better than they will ever be.

    Posted by: The Real Brandon at January 18, 2007 3:47 PM"


    Don't you just love the internet, it affords everyone the opportunity to make grand generalizations about people that they know nothing about. This post almost makes me want to stick around here for a while.

    I`m sorry. I had a brain disfunction and hit post.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    "Vermont is a perfect example of a state held hostage by a corrupt secular progressive power structure..."

    BAAAHHHHH!

    O'Reilly!

    BAAAAAHHHH!

    O'Reilly!

    BAAAAAAHHH!

    "The 1:06 post could not possibly be the 'Brandon' we all now and love. Brandon could never articulate that well, nor could he possibly be that objective. And I can't see him taking on his hero, Johnny, under ANY circumstances.

    However, this new poster may not really be an imposter. Maybe he just didn't realize the name was already taken."

    Correct, i was simply using my real name; had no idea it was already in use. my apologies.

    "Yes, they are. First of all, a 4-year-old child is likely not considered a "competent witness" under the law (although Vermont does not use age as a factor, the determative issue is the child's ability to know the difference between the truth and a lie). Second, we don't know anything about the other witnesses or their credibility." From O'reilly "All right, now what you have here is you have the aunt. She was the original person the four-year-old told I'm afraid of this guy, James. You have the brother, who's a couple years older than the victim, who says he told me, the four-year-old told me this guy was molesting him. All right, that's two. You have the mother of the boy, who confronted James, knows James. And James at first denied and then admitted the crime to the mother. Then you have social worker Kyle Hoover from Family Services in Vermont, who interviewed the little boy in front of police officers from the Manchester department. They heard what the little boy said. And then they gave the little boy a drawing, an anatomically correct drawing and said tell us on this drawing, point out what happened. And the kid did. This is in front of the social worker and the police. All right, that's what you have. Is that enough?

    Before you repost tell me what you think? I think they should have gone to trial. I think probation is a joke. I think if you let him walk because of the victim;s age you let all other molesters know you can go after kids 2,3,4 etc without fear. You also said this "She's talking about TRIAL PROCESS. I'm talking about SENTENCING. Once the prosecutor and defense agree on a plea, the judge has two choices - accept the plea as agreed to or reject it and (usually) force a trial.

    I want a trial . You think not? You also said 'Once again it was the PROSECUTOR'S call to make as to the case, NOT the judge" So what if he makes a ridiculous call. Cant the Judge do something?

    "I just did Janet. Believe it or not, I'm a little bit backwards on this computer stuff!

    Posted by: Mike at January 18, 2007 4:16 PM"

    Mike, you made my day! I am absolutely backwards on this stuff.

    As my son, who makes his living with computer applications, once told me "Mom, you know that book Computers for Dummies. Don't buy it, its too advanced."

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    > it was the PROSECUTOR'S call to make as to the case, NOT the judge

    They are both at fault. The Prosecutor should not have offered such a deal in a case like this. And the Judge shouldn't have agreed to it. He could send them back to bargain further, propose his own sentencing agreement, or reject any plea deal whatsoever.

    Right he made it sound like O'reilly did'nt know what he was talking about. And I 'm thinking well if a prosecutor was paid off and the D.A. also on a murder charge and both agreed on probation,your telling me the judge has no say? Very unlikely but I think shows why a Judge should have a say so.

    When people quit being nasty, the debate here just sorta dries up, hmmmmmmmmm...

    So Mike thinks that because HE watches Olbermann for the political segments that makes Countdown primarily a political show despite the fact that Olbermann frequently spends far more time doing silly segments involving Hollywood Celebs (which by the way, he has said represent his highest rated segments). Okay, only in Mike's world does what he says make it the way he says it is. Again, I present you with a prime example of Olbyloon thinking at it's finest.

    When Olbermann was still trusted at NBC, he was indeed given the chance to co-host Weekend Today at one point, and of anchoring the NBC Nightly News Weekend Edition only). Once he decided to make the turn to the hard left, he's never been given the honor of hosting/anchoring either show again, nor will he ever again.

    "So Mike thinks that because HE watches Olbermann for the political segments that makes Countdown primarily a political show despite the fact that Olbermann frequently spends far more time doing silly segments involving Hollywood Celebs (which by the way, he has said represent his highest rated segments)."

    Countdown is PRIMARILY a show about politics.

    pri·ma·ri·ly
    1. essentially; mostly; chiefly; principally

    It's just as Primarily about politics as this is Primarily a political blog.

    If it wasn't primarily about politics, why would you hate him so much?

    Read Johnny's headline recaps of the shows and tell me Countdown isn't PRIMARILY about politics.

    Did you catch the last Special Comment. It wasn't about Lindsey Lohan.

    Anyone notice that that the the atomic scientist who handle the "doomsday" clock pushed it forward? Not because of a nuclear threat but because of the threat posed by global warming.


    The board of directors of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, which manages the clock, said they decided to put global climate change into the mix because the dangers posed by that phenomenon in terms of the actual and potential destruction of human habitats have become "nearly as dire as those posed by nuclear weapons."

    "I think if you let him walk because of the victim;s age you let all other molesters know you can go after kids 2,3,4 etc without fear."

    Hyperbolic ranting will not score points with me, sir.

    "I want a trial . You think not?"

    I think that the prosecutor (having ALL the facts and not just the ones presented on television) is in a better position to make that determination. Bill O'Reilly doesn't have all the facts. YOU don't have all the facts. You're making an assumption based upon just the facts that have been presented.

    Now if the DA took this case to trial and LOST, you'd be screaming about that. It's an imperfect system - always has, always will be. Especially in light of recent Supreme Court decisions that make it much more difficult to get hearsay testimony (which is what almost all of the witnesses other than the victim would be giving) admitted if the victim is available to testify in open court.

    Criss Mathews just said; "The human cost of this war is something nobody talks about, why?"...

    Same question I keep asking!

    He's talking to Joe Biden right now, who has a hell of a lot more common sense than our illustrious president!

    "When asked about Condi as a potential president, she said: "Dr. Rice, who I think would be a really good candidate, is not interested. Probably because she is single, her parents are no longer living; she's an only child. You need a very supportive family and supportive friends to have this job."

    Mrs Bush was asked a question about the possibility of Condi Rice running for president. The first part of the response indicated an opinion that she would be a good canditate and went on to state that Ms Rice is not interested in running. Then Ms Bush speculated that the reason could be that her immediate personal support system would make a difficult task virtually impossible. Nowhere did Ms Bush question Ms Rice's qualifications.

    On the other hand, B Boxer questioned Ms Rice's QUALIFICATION to execute her duties based solely on her marital and familial situation.

    Big difference.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Grannie.....It's looking like The Democrat Party is paying for the war....and abandoning the American People!.....


    From GMA...

    Sawyer: As we sit here right now, 3,500 troops are moving in. That's the first of the surge. It has begun. Fifty-one percent of the American people say they want Congress to stop the surge. Money is the method at hand to do that.

    Are you going to move to cut off funding for troops going into Iraq as part of the surge?

    Watch the full interview Friday, Jan. 19 on "Good Morning America" from 7 to 9 a.m.

    Pelosi: Democrats will never cut off funding for our troops when they are in harm's way.

    It is, I think, very difficult for the president to sustain a war of this magnitude without the support of the American people and without the support of the Congress of the United States. That's why Congress will vote to oppose the president's escalation, from the standpoint of policy. We will have our disagreement.

    Sawyer: But short of that — questions posed, resolutions passed — short of that, are you acquiescing in the surge if the pocketbook is the only other control mechanism?

    Pelosi: The president knows that because the troops are in harm's way, that we won't cut off the resources. That's why he's moving so quickly to put them in harm's way.

    But we will hold the president accountable. He has to answer for his war.

    (I will now end all my posts with the following signature until The Democrats fulfill their promises to The American People)

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    Uh....I mean Grammie...sorry.

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    Can someone please tell me what segment of "the Factor" will host Colbert, so I don't have to sit through the entire agonizing show? My personal definition of torture is sitting through an entire O'Reilly episode!

    I see he's led off with "Shaun Hornbeck" and something about, "Stockholm syndrome". Good thing Bill O understands what is REALLY news and what isn't. All KO wants to talk about is a silly old war and politics!

    The fact that this guy leads the ratings leading off with what SHOULD be insignificant stories like this is probably a symptom of what is wrong with America!

    Let's examine the TIME he spends on subjects. I'd say THAT determines what the majority of his show is about and he spends less time on those opening two segments than he does the rest of the show which tend to be about far less weighty matters. Sorry, that does NOT make his show a political show primarily no matter what you THINK.

    Lets see now. 20 minutes into both shows. KO's been on the war and the politics involved the whole time, and O'Reilly hasn't gotten to it yet!

    Now O'Reilly's gone on to "medical Marijuana".

    Yep Bill O's jumped right on the important stuff!

    Now 30 minutes into the show, O'Reilly has gone on to something about "the morning rave" about something that happened at some local radio show somewhere. He still hasn't gotten onto the most important story of our time. Instead, he's busy inventing stories and causes...no wonder Factor fans live in such an insulated world.

    Mike,

    I thought you don't even watch O'Reilly.

    Now 32 minutes into the show, after a brief and fairly funny break with an 'Oddball' segment, KO is back on the war with George Mcgovern, who I've never seen on his show before.

    Meanwhile o'Reilly remains tied up in his little world of invented stories.

    Yeah Mike

    Olby last place ratings doing same old stuff.

    O'Reilly doing Stockhom Syndrome, jumping over to medical Marijuana. Oh yeah, and he has first place ratings.

    But Mike thinks O'Reilly should be doing Olby stuff.

    Gee how fast could Mike run a station into the ground if he became the program director?

    But then again I could see where some people might need a few segments to get something because they might be a little slow.

    Should I send the short bus over?

    Rico:

    I don't except when somebody like Colbert is scheduled to appear! I figured I might as well check on the whole show in the process.

    Mike,

    You seem to be choosing to sit through the "entire agonizing show". I feel so bad for you. I guess it's too late for somebody to tell you which segments Colbert will be on.

    Mike, which is the most important story of our time?

    - That Olbermann hates Bush and all Republicans

    - That the Left believes that surrender in Iraq is our only option?

    - That the Left believes that the way to confront terrorism is to capitulate to it?

    - That the Left believes that "real news" comes from the Comedy Channel or a show on MSNBC with puppet theater?

    Which is it?

    Mike,

    Please tell us the bad things about the O'Reilly show. Content please. I agree with anyone who says that O'Reilly is a pompous blowhard. I get PO'd at him for that, too. But what views does he have that offend you?

    Now at 40 minutes, O'Reilly's finally on to Colbert and taking claim for his success. Still hasn't mentioned the biggest story of our time!

    George Mc govern?

    Stealing Larry King's guest eh?

    Meanwhile O'Reilly remains tied up in his little world of invented stories.

    Mike oh that guy in Vermont didn't molest that four year old? That guy didn't attack his wife a screwdriver?

    Gee didn't somebody die from a stunt at that radio station?

    Oh yeah George Mcgovern most people will look at him and say. "Am I watching something from the seventies?" No, that guy on the screen looks older than George Burns!!!!!

    IT 'offends' me that he invents stories and causes. 45 minutes into his show, and he still hasn't talked about anything important yet!

    O'Reilly is having fun with Colbert and the Left actually thinks he's serious with this interview...

    Mike,

    No doubt you spend all night, talking in your sleep, about "the most important story in the world". Doesn't the little woman ever tell you to "SFTU!"?

    Mike,

    Oops! I meant "STFU!"?

    Is this funny or what O'Reilly made Mike and his buddies sit through forty minutes.

    You see Mike when you have the first place show you can set up the segments as you wish.

    The most important story in Mike's mind?

    When that damm nurse going to get here with my meds?

    Yeah Puck, those things happened, but do you want to know about some of the tragic things that happened in my community recently, yours...the thousands of similar stories that happen every day across America but never get blown up into a 'National' News story.

    How bout that car that ran off the road in front of my house just last night? It turned over and plowed into my neighbor's house and a young girl was hurt? Shouldn't O'Reilly be covering THAT too, because the idiot driver was going too fast?

    Mike is absolutely correct!

    Only Olbermann's puppet theatre can give us the real IMPORTANT news of the day.

    8:52 and it's starting to look like O'Reilly is going to do the WHOLE damned show without even mentioning the most important ongoing story of our time.

    Absolutely amazing!!!!!

    And this guy LEADS the in the ratings!.....wow, how this makes me fear for the future of America!

    Now O'Reilly's capping off his pathetic show by promoting himself, meanwhile. he did not spend 1 damned minute on anything important.

    Johnny, you think THIS is a real show???

    Mike...Mike...

    Olbermann's format is the SAME everyday

    He starts with how much he hates Bush
    Follows it up with an interview with someone else who hates Bush
    Runs down a list of other Republicans he hates
    And finishes with puppet theatre

    This will only get him ratings for so long...even the Left can't take the same thing every day

    Anon, I don't recall hearing KO say "I hate Bush" one time!

    Mike, you have answered your own question:

    "...the thousands of similar stories that happen every day across America but never get blown up into a 'National' News story."

    BOR is not a newsman and NIETHER is KO.

    BOR as the all time winner of the WPITW award by KO should have been your first hint.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    I don't watch Bill O'Reilly but it's my understanding that his format is that it's an opinion and talk hybrid. So wouldn't that make it his choice what he covers? That he could devote an entire hour to a single subject if he so chose? And he may for all I know. At any rate, Fox does NOT advertise it as a NEWS show so I say that O'Reilly gets to talk about anything he wants to, whether you like it or not.

    And hey, let me sound like an Olbyloon here and suggest you change the channel and not watch if you're so offended. I've heard that advice repeated here many times, and from Mike of all people. Maybe Mike should follow his own advice.

    Brandon, you misunderstand....AGAIN!

    I'm not 'offended' at all, and I only watched to see the much balleyhooed 'confrontation' with Colbert. I just thought I would pay attention to the format of the entire show while I was at it.

    It does, however, make me sad for America if this is what the majority of people want to see TV 'news' commentary devoted to.

    I now understand that KO's show and O'reilly's has less in common with each other than say....O'Reilly and Nancy Grace, so comparing their ratings is stupid!

    Mike is correct.

    You people shouldn't watch O'Reilly, who often has opposing views/opinions on his show, when you can watch Olbermann who will only interview Dems/Liberals...oh...and the occasional puppet on Puppet Theatre

    So after one show you've decided you're an expert on O'Reilly's show and you've also decided you'll dictate to him what he should talk about on his own show? Your arrogance is astonishing.

    A quote from Mike, " I now understand that KO's show and O'reilly's has less in common with each other than say....O'Reilly and Nancy Grace, so comparing their ratings is stupid!"

    No, you don't understand. You see, Nielsen compares shows in the same time period, not the show's "type". That is the way it has always been done and the way it will no doubt always be done but you, being you, have decided that's invalid too because you don't agree with it. King Michael has spoken everyone--the Nielsen ratings system isn't to his liking and should be changed immediately to make HIM happy.

    "Should I send the short bus over?"

    No, but if I want the short bus, I now know it resides at your house.

    Mike:

    BOR's show wasn't that bad -- at least he didn't do a story about the alleged encounters of Richard Gere w/ gerbils. Now that would be just unwatchable. Which is why J$ should get a medal of honor for enduring a recent edition of Olbermann that included this story as one of the top five.

    Mike, can you name a story that BOR has ever done which is as repulsive, sophomoric, vacuous and moronic as this?