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"COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)
Host: Keith Olbermann
Topics/Guests:
Keith bellowed in the opening spiel that the SotU speech has been "overshadowed" by The Great Leak Case. Yeah, America can't stop talking about it. Everything is Cheney's fault. Plus Hillary Clinton's "first interview" since launching her committee, and...oh yeah...the State of the Union which maybe this year will have "intentional" jokes. The Hour of Spin lives up to its nickname once again.
The lead story was The Great Leak Case. Ah, it's like the good old days once again on OlbyPlanet. Fitzgerald "alleging" that Cheney was somehow involved; Libby's attorneys "attempting to paint" Libby as innocent. And of course, that means Slippery Shuster is on the scene. He gave a detailed rundown of the most salacious portions from Fitzgerald's opening statement, and Krazy Keith suggested that all this being made public the day of the SotU address was "fortuitous". KO noted that "they threw Libby under the bus" [Bingo!]. Great thanks.
Then we got a repeat of an Olbermann Lie; an oldie, but a goodie:
Those 16 words in which "Mister" Bush had claimed in 2003's address that Iraq had tried to secure weapon-grade from Niger ultimately proving to be false.
For those who tuned in late, "Mister" Bush never mentioned Niger in that SotU, and never claimed anything other than what British intelligence reported. But Olbermann is only a stickler for accuracy when he wants to be, and tonight he didn't want to be. This was a precursor to Herr Olbermann's claim that Iran wasn't really involved in Iraq as the eeevil Bush claims. When Howard Fineman came on, Oralmann amplified his lie, now stating that "Mister" Bush stated that Iraq "had obtained uranium from Niger". Olbermann lies are like a screensaver: they constantly change, but they hide the real truth. The Pundit for All Occasions harped on "credibility" as KO came up with one example after another of Rule #1 (it's bad for Bush): Dick Cheney will be sitting behind him, the Libby trial is going on, he's trying to do a "U-turn" to domestic issues, yada yada yada. Great thanks.
Next came "Lying in State", the Fat Ass rundown of "lies" from previous Bush SotU speeches (Blue Blog Source: Daily Kos). Since Oralmann lied twice about what Bush said in just the first segment, why should anyone believe any of this propaganda? And when he said that Gen Shinseki asked for more troops and then was "ousted", making this the third Olbermann lie of the night, we quit counting.
Then the Big Interview with Hillary. It was another hard-hitting, brilliantly incisive job of questioning from "Man on Fan" Olbermann:
Oh, that's right, we have to update The List. Done.
In the Media Matters Minute, John Gibson (who works at--of all places--Fox!) was "worst person" for daring to defend something that Fat Ass himself has done repeatedly: report a story from Insight magazine (Blue Blog Source: TVNewser). After Olbermoronn repeated his Niger lie again, Matthews joined Olby for SotU coverage, and that's when we bowed out. Anything to avoid having to suffer through more of the slovenly political hack, even if he is sharing time with Chrissy.
Since this was SotU night, we'll give the infamous, deplorable one a pass on non-barking dogs. Olbermann's book The book that bears Olberman's name is down to #5,550 at amazon.com, while "Culture Warrior" is #163. The OlbyTome is #2,490 at Barnes & Noble; O'Reilly's book is #562 there, as well as being one of 2006's top ten best sellers. Monday's Hour of Spin, the one that brought us one of Krazy Keith's most outrageous examples of Olbypocrisy, found the discredited sports guy in third place, losing even to Paula Zahn, though he did eke out a second-place finish in the critical, beloved, all-important, coveted "key demo". Tonight's MisterMeter reading: 9 [SEVERE]
UPDATE: Newsbusters caught Keith in an embarrassing blunder tonight. And they put even more flesh on the bones of the rank Olbypocrisy first reported by Olbermann Watch. Good work, Busters.
Hey Olby! Where's my apology?
Olby's whooping it up with all the chicks in D.C. while he's briefly away from his little girl. You know what a player he is. He's too busy trying to score with hot politicas to apologize to you, Al. He owes so many apologies to people, especially women (so we've heard), that you'll just have to take a number.
So that's why Olby gave Bubba that personal check on air - to secure an interview with Hillary after she became a presidential candidate. That doesn't sound like a conflict of interest, does it?
Keith would be more interesting if he just sat there for an hour and said."I hate Bush,I Fox News" over and over again,his boring blather and outright jealous hated of Fox News has just gotten WAY too old.His ratings are horrendous and the only reason he has his show is that MSNBC couldn't find anyone else that wanted to go head to head with O'Reilly,and believe me they definately tried.Couldn't make it at ESPN and now hes taking MSNBC's 8pm time slot down the dumper too.Whats next for Keith,Girls Gone Wild ????
How difficult is it to get the "16 words" from Bush correct?
Takes 5 seconds. Here's what he said:
"The British Government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."
Sought, KO, not acquired. Africa, KO, not Niger.
The allegation was/is true. The British government stands by it this very day.
But this is a hopeless fight, JD. The lie has gained hold and nothing can be done to un-ring that bell.
Only in Olbyworld does the opening arguments of the Libby trial take precedence over the SOTU Address.
Is not Niger in Africa? Or do you need Google Earth? If you Google Hussein and Niger, you'll find that the British report he was referring to said Niger. He didn't say Niger because he didn't know where it was. Obviously neither do you.
"Is not Niger in Africa? "
Is Niger the ONLY country in Africa that has uranium?
Iraq also sought uranium from the Congo.
If you Google the British report - the Butler Report - it refers to attempts by Iraq to acquire the material from both Niger AND the Congo.
The British intelligence - the information Bush was referring to in his SOTU - cited attempts by Saddam in both countries.
Apparently, David Schuster didn't save his worst for "Countdown" tonight, and instead delivered a bogus report on what would be alleged at the start of the Libby trial on MSNBC Tuesday morning, which, according to Steven Spruiell over at NRO, had been, ah, 'redacted' from the MSNBC website by late afternoon when it turned out the memo he said was destroyed still exists.
http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTBiMzA0ODMzNGE5ZTA2ZWU0NzkxZmRiZDM3MDBjZmQ=
Olbermann did not do a worst person in the world when he was interviewing Mr. Clinton ... what is up with that ?!?
Johnny, I just got done watching Hillary (yes they got that video right up!) over on msnbc.com
I think I found a goof.
I could only watch it once. I'll try again in another hour but in the second half I think she calls him Gene.
"And when he said that Gen Shinseki asked for more troops and then was "ousted", making this the third Olbermann lie of the night, we quit counting."
You might want to read the article a little deeper - yes, Shinseki was not RETIRED, but the way he was treated (Pentagon officials called it a "castration") he might as well have walked away:
From the same article:
"What really happened is that in April 2002, 14 months before the end of Shinseki's term as Army Chief of Staff, Donald Rumsfeld leaked the name of Shinseki's successor to the Washington Post — effectively making Shinseki a lame duck. But while Rumsfeld was probably hoping Shinseki would take the hint and choose to retire early, he didn't force him out — and in fact Shinseki ended up serving out his full term. What's more, Rumsfeld did this nearly a year before Shinseki's congressional testimony about needing "several hundred thousand" troops in Iraq. Rumsfeld disliked Shinseki, but it was mainly because of disagreements over weapons systems and Rumsfeld's view of "transformation," not troop strength for the Iraq war.
Or so I thought. But I wasn't aware that Shinseki had been privately challenging Rumsfeld's troop estimates for the war as far back as late 2001. Rumsfeld may have had other disputes with Shinseki as well, but the troop strength issue really was one of the reasons that Rumsfeld announced Shinseki's replacement so far ahead of time."
If anything, Olbermann SOFT-PEDALED it by calling it an "ouster" - would YOU want to be in a job where you were basically impotent for 14 months?
Bottom line is Olbermann lied that he was "ousted". He wasn't. He served longer than many. IN fact, only two in history have served longer than he did:
http://www.defenselink.mil/home/dodupdate/For-the-record/docs/2006-11-03a.html
His term was up, one way or another. Olbermann saying he was "ousted" after speaking out was a lie, and still is a lie.
Yep! we have a goof on the tape!!!!
She calls him Gene!
Wow! she does'nt know the great Edward R. Moron??
They probably said when she came in "Mrs. Clinton, Keith Olbermann would like to interview you".
Hillary: Who?
Hillary Hack: Ah Keith Olbermann, don't worry Mrs. Clinton, he throws softballs so big he makes Larry King look like Sandy Kofax.
And I saw bottles and a bar in the backround, where did they do this? At a Blarney Stone?
Ah no! It was Terry McCallif's (sorry Terry I know that last name isn't spelled right.) book party!
Keith had to do a suck up ambush soft ball interview!!!!
Yeah, kinda like that 'softball' he threw when he asked her to explain her vote autherizing war!
>>
***AHEM***
"Johnny Dollar was over at Newshounds and posted at one of the comments section."
Sorry for being a tattle-tale, $.
Hey, we're at least talking about health care again. Maybe this election did mean something after all.
I was eager to log on as the only part of "Countdown" I was able to see over here was the segment on lies and misrepresentations in earlier SOTU addresses on a French language station, out of Belgium I suppose. That was certainly revealing, and Mr. Olbermann is masterful at having that type of segment pieced together. Informative and artful.
As for the SOTU address itself, a rather dismal CNN International broadcast .... I was struck by how uninspired and flat it all was. Dubya almost seemed to put himself asleep after the admitedly gracious introduction of Speaker Pelosi. Still that frat boy charm when Dubya wants to summon it ...! He should try it more often.
By contrast, Senator Webb blew me away. I was pleased he won the election, but I never cared that much for him. That changed. What wonderful candor! Even those who might disagree with his comments must surely appreciate his honesty. And, how nice on SOTU night to hear from someone who has a personal stake, who is making a true sacrifice in the war. It gave Senator Webb's remarks power and authenticity. What a great treat that was.
> "Johnny Dollar was over at Newshounds and posted at one of the comments section."
Oh, stop the presses! Actually you should stop the presses. Usually when I point out their lies they summarily delete my messages. Someone must have slipped up.
"Olbermann saying he was "ousted" after speaking out was a lie, and still is a lie."
So naming a successor 14 months BEFORE his term was up was what...a "congrats on a job well done"?
He was marginalized and minimized BECAUSE HE DISAGREED with Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz. He was an Army Chief of Staff on paper, but in truth he was about as effective as a clip of paper bullets.
K0 has interviewed all three major Democratic Presidential candidates today, and he had a dialoque with Brokaw, Russart, & Williams as well. All you Olby haters must really be gnashing your teeth tonight!
"on a French language station, out of Belgium I suppose"
Great, KO will fit in nicely with the anti-American media in Europe.
Just what we need. More hate against the US.
If the Europeans expects us to bail their asses out of trouble one more time, forget about it. You're on you own.
Ungrateful bunch.
Hillary sez: "I -- think -- that -- Keith Olbermann -- still -- has -- some --- more -- important -- inter-viewing -- to do -- for -- the -- upcoming -- two-thousand & eight -- presidential -- elections -- of this -- nation."
No, I don't think the Europeans are worried about that at all. They are probably wondering if they might have to bail us out of trouble this time!
> K0 has interviewed all three major Democratic Presidential candidates today
So when will he have the major Republican candidates on Countdown and interview them?
Ohboy thinks the Europeans, after having advised us NOT to do something so very stupid as to invade Iraq, and then turn out to be right, makes them "anti-American".
Kind of pathetic really, that some so called Americans actually think like this!
I don't know Johnny, have they asked to appear on Countdown?
LMAOOOO..."the good old days on OLBYPLANET!!!!'...oh god..too funny
By contrast, Senator Webb blew me away. . . What wonderful candor! Even those who might disagree with his comments must surely appreciate his honesty.
Posted by: Kurt Kissel at January 23, 2007 10:51 PM
More twaddle from the inflated ego of Kissel. Webb's lame rebuttal to the President's succicint and powerful defense of the state of our economy was laughable. Webb went back to the well for another round of ginning up class warfare. "Look at all the money those CEO's are making" was Webb's message. Yeah, that's a real winner. A couple of times Webb looked like he was trying to keep from giggling. Other times he wore a constant scowl on his face. Is this the best that the Dems can come up with? So lame.
What is it the Europeans might expect us to bail them out of, I have to ask? I have only been over here for two (2) days, but I haven't seen troops massing at the frontiers. The radio stations haven't been seized. There are no blackout curtains in the Gasthaus. The lines at the market don't seem abnormally long. Europe seems to be a peace and as free from Angst as Northern Europeans can be. I suspect we can safely use the troops we might send to bail Europe put for the ill-advised troop surge in Iraq. That conflict, by the way no longer includes the Dutch and never included the Germans, Belgians, French, Swiss or Austrians.
So you arn't impressed with Webb? OK, fine..so I will ask you the same queston you asked; is Bush the best the Rebs could come up with? How about Mitch McConnell, Haskert, Frist, Delay, etc....all zeros that impressed absolutely no one except the hard core of your party.
Hillary Clinton admitted that we have two more years wit George W. Bush and Keith Olbermann just sat there. Olbermann Watch should post that as another reason to why Keith Olbermann's lazy and careless as an anchor person.
Pucko that was callous and rude to mention the Bugman. The Republicans have cast him aside and moved on. You should never bring up the past. The Republicans never do.
Damn Johnny Dollar you just got owned by Ensign Expendable. He took your "proof" and once again showed your selective reasoning in the political world. Kinda the same thing you complain Olby does on a nightly basis but here you are caught red handed and your only defense is
"Bottom line is Olbermann lied that he was "ousted". He wasn't. He served longer than many. IN fact, only two in history have served longer than he did:
meaningless link that means nothing
"His term was up, one way or another. Olbermann saying he was "ousted" after speaking out was a lie, and still is a lie."
Nice to ignore the referneces in there to Rumsfeld taking action to make Gen Shinseki a lame duck. The bottom line it tells the same story. Shinseki believed more troops were needed, Runsfeld didn't agree with him and took the steps necessary to make him a "lame duck" as the article says. It doesn't change anything about the perception that this administration would not listen to anything other than what they wanted to hear which is the overall basis of the story anyways. You are like KO jr in your methods. I love how you post links to right wing sites while complaining that KO gets his information from left leaning sites. It's completely dishonest and misleading to be exactly what you despise.
There might not be anything we can really do about it, nor should we probably try legislatively, but how can anyone with even the most rudimentary sense of proportion defend CEOs making 400 times what the average worker in their own company makes?
CEOs are employees too, and no one can convince me that these people are so outstanding that they are actually worth this kind of money
Has Olbermann detached his lips from Billary's ass long enough to do his un-American hit job on the presidents State of the Union speech. Olbermann wants the United States to lose so that his favorite party can "win". He likes seeing troops die so that he can bash the President. What a coward.
Mike cried today about how "mean" I was to him. Poor baby. He then defends a coward name "O’Liely" who makes fun of Jews being exterminated. He also then takes issue with people who want to talk about the lies that Olbermann spews. Funny, I thought this was a blog about Olbermann's lies. Here is news flash for Mike and O’Liely, people die in wars. Not every war is a video game like the first Iraq war. You tout the 3000 dead troops as a liberal badge of honor. You don't actually care about the dead troops; you just want to use them to prove your political points.
Here's a bit of info for you if you're concerned that the president might not be doing all he can be doing to protect our borders from Radical Islam:
In April 2005, President Bush met with King Abdullah Bin Abdul Aziz of Saudi Arabia at his Crawford, TX ranch. At such time, they made an agreement to encourage more Saudi students to receive their undergraduate educations in the U.S. Presently, there are approximately 5,000 Saudi Arabian students studying in U.S. colleges and universities and 15,000 applications in the pipeline, although confirming the exact figures is one momentous task, if not impossible to find.
The deal which King Abdullah proposed to President Bush was to allow 5,000 students per year the opportunity to study in the U.S., with all tuition costs footed by the Saudi Arabian government. The scholarship program, which was not publicly announced by either the White house or the Saudi Embassy, was an attempt for the Saudi government to fast-track the student visa program to which the administration has now agreed.
http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/13086.html
You think young idealistic Saudi nationals (i.e. UBL back in the day) might be willing to use this program to strike against the Infidels (that's US).
This one has flown WAY under the radar...
"Ohboy thinks the Europeans, after having advised us NOT to do something so very stupid as to invade Iraq, and then turn out to be right, makes them "anti-American"."
Sorry, you're sleepwalking through history. I'm referring to the Europeans who think the US and Israel are more of a danger to world peace than countries like Iran or North Korea.
And once Bush is gone, they'll still hold on to that view.
Believe it or not, there are people who hate America. There's a long pedigree of this type of thinking. It predates Bush and will continue once he is long gone.
You friends on the liberal/left better start recognizing this. At least those of that don't themselves hate the country.
You friends on the liberal/left better start recognizing this. At least those of that don't themselves hate the country.
Posted by: Ohboy at January 23, 2007 11:27 PM
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Why is that the liberal/left have to recognize this? It is the conservatives that have all of the power in the executive branch and supposed grass roots movements. Spread the blame.
Here's a "right-wing" source for you, the nonpartisan factcheck.org:
http://www.factcheck.org/article275.html
But the administration didn't force General Shinseki to retire. In fact, The Washington Times reported Shinseki's plans to retire nearly a year before his Feb. 25, 2003 testimony.... We originally quoted in this space an Oct. 9 Washington Post story saying Gen. Shinseki's pending retirement was leaked "in revenge" for his position on troop levels. Based on that, we said there was "some truth" to Kerry's statement. However, the Post withdrew their report in a correction published Oct. 11.
Olbermann lied.
Here's another "right-wing" source: CNN
CNN Fact Check: Kerry implies that Shinseki was forced to retire as a result of his comments about troop levels in Iraq, which is inaccurate. Shinseki served a full four-year term as Army chief of staff, and did not retire early. Since World War II, no Army chief of staff has served longer than four years.
http://www.themediareport.com/jun2006/gore-abc-shinseki.htm
Anyone catch how KO got shot down with his ' brilliant ' opening question to three of his first four guests ?
KO basically asked if they were surprised it took the President 3200 words until he first said Iraq. All replied they saw no problem when he brought it up.
The third person he asked this to was Hillary rephrasing it to ' Well over 3200 words ' and she responded " NO " giving her reasons, and after KO looked confused, as if he was sure she would rally on his childish question to berate the President. What answer did he expect " Yes, Ko you math genius he should have brought it up by word 1742 at least ". I have not heard that question since.
Funny thing "Factor", I don't recall 'crying' at all, not from anything someone as intellectually challenged as you came up with anyway.
No, your the same Neandethal that actually quotes "The Factor" to defend his third grade level arguments, and then calls anyone who disgrees with you a 'Socialist".
You really think YOU have anything to tell me about wars, and how people die. I actually AM a veteran...are you?
You have such an incredibly simplistic view of America, and the world that it is actually painfull to read your pathetic comments. Believe me, you arn't helping your side at all!
Trust me, you deluded O'Reilly fan, you are totally incapable of making me 'cry'. Laugh is more like it!
Tha Factor...
You say "You don't actually care about the dead troops; you just want to use them to prove your political points."
So lets look at the liberal point of view. Basically it is bring then home or as you may see it, cut and run.
You accuse of Mike of using the soldiers for political points but it is really you that are doing it. Asking them to stay there and die, wanting to send more troops over so they can be in harms way all so you may score political points. So hopefully at the end you can say you were right. I agree with you that people die in wars which is exactly why the people that send then to war should do so with repect, a solid plan, a valid reason, and most importantly as a last resort. The Iraq war is a war of choice, not a war of necessity. You want to ask people to die for your politics, then go ahead but don't accuse people that want to pull them out as rooting for their deaths so they can bash the president. It is the exact opposite.
Mike: Admit it... you wine.
Webb stated at the end of his rebuttal that if the President doesn't move to act (troop withdrawal), they will. Yet earlier in his address, he said he did not want immediate withdrawal. What exactly is his position?
Below are portions of the President's speech on January 10.
-I've made it clear to the Prime Minister and Iraq's other leaders that America's commitment is not open-ended.
-To establish its authority, the Iraqi government plans to take responsibility for security in all of Iraq's provinces by November.
-So America will hold the Iraqi government to the benchmarks it has announced.
The terrorists and insurgents in Iraq are without conscience, and they will make the year ahead bloody and violent.
I read his comments as stating that the Iraqis have until November or its over.
Ok Johnny. You found a lie that a lot of the press has said over the years. Does that change the popular perception from that lie that Rumsfeld ousted him because he disagreed with him? Is the context of the story any different with or without the lie? Doesn't it really just say the same thing?
Oh I found THAT lie. And I found the one where Olbermann misquoted the PResident's 16 words. And then I found the one where he misquoted and CHANGED THE MEANING even further of the President's words. As I said, at three I stopped counting. Lies become "popular perception" because slovenly political hacks like Oralmann keep repeating them. These are far from his worst lies; nothing tonight that compares with the Top Ten Lies of 2006, so memorably documented at this site. But it's his lies--the small ones and the whoppers--that are part of the reason he won't bring people on who are anywhere to the right of Al Franken. They'll expose him for what he is, a slovenly political hack.
JD (KOjr),
Isn't that all you really are too, "a slovenly political hack."? You just got busted misleading the people here on this site and you have the nerve to call KO out for being dishonest. You are a hypocrite.
Olby also kept trying to overstate Bush's position on Iran. Russert didn't seem to be buying it.
The way that I see this ... if it is catchy ... it is definately likely to be a lie. "16 words" "16 words" 16 words" !!! Too catchy .
> You just got busted misleading the people here on this site
What in the Wide World of Sports are you talking about? I never mislead. Who do you think I am, anyhow, Krazy Keith?
No you are KO jr.
Does that make R. Cox Chris Matthews' junior ?
Sorry, Dave--the host dug up the reference, and proved you wrong. It's not so bad to admit it. We've all been wrong at one time or another. Those of us who supported the Iraq invasion are now constantly hectored to admit our wrongness; like most democratic members of Congress,who are now falling all over themselves to admit they were wrong. Of course, they were only wrong because they were misled, and if they'd only known every single fact with mathematical certainty and known that it was correctly sourced in the intelligence community, dating back to 1993, when Clinton started to declare the same thing,then they'd have done otherwise. And, of course, they'd also do a better job of running the war, because after all,they've done it, and we've all done it, and who could do worse, anyway? Is LBJ still alive? So go ahead and admit it- you were wrong about Shinseki. It's ok. It won't hurt.
Is Robert Cox blonde like Chris?
Dave,
Wouldn't it have been just as easy for Olby to relate what happened to Shinseki as you did in your comment? He used the term ousted because he wanted to convey something more than what you have stated.
Chris Matthews hates to sit next to Olbermann. Matthews couldn't follow fat ass's metaphors. Keith was harping on the red clothing in the chamber and the irony of that fact. Matthews looked stupified. Keith explained to Matthews that most of the 'red' was voted out in November. Matthews tried to continue. Ouch.
No, but I think that Chris Matthews means 2 things:
1) Syrupy sucking up
&
2) Trying to be all gruff all of the time.
I like R Cox better than this $ guy. Unfortunately ... we are stuck with Johnny more.
In all fairness QQ, I think that particular incident reflected worse on Mathews than it did KO. I was kind of surprised he didn't get the 'red' quip right away.
> I like R Cox better than this $ guy. Unfortunately ... we are stuck with Johnny more.
I agree with you. Maybe you could start a petition drive.
Gene, Hillary called him Gene.
Maybe she got him confused with the wrestling announcer from the 80's Gene Olbermann
Yeah thats it!
One of Olby's biggest highlights of his career and she calls him Gene.
And she didn't go to him, He had to go to a bar to see her.
You know a Krazy Komment is coming Wed. night!!
Maybe after Gene Olbermann loses this job his next stop can be the W.W.E.!
She called him Gene!
This is priceless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Word is that Tom Brokaw demanded to do remote commentary, as he also can't stand fat ass political hack Olbermann
> Hillary called him Gene
She probably confused his eyebrows with Gene Shalit's mustache.
Maybe R. Cox was promoted somewhere. Maybe he was locked in a storage room 1 day so that dollar can have this website all to himself. Where is he ? Banished somewhere.
Puck: "Hillary called him Gene"...
I'm sure that you would have preferred that she call him "fat Ass"!
"So go ahead and admit it- you were wrong about Shinseki. It's ok. It won't hurt."
He was NEUTRALIZED as Army Chief of Staff - virtually IGNORED by the Administration for the last year he was in the post because they had already named his replacement.
The fact that he didn't retire is plain Army mule stubbornness. But Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz did EVERYTHING they could to make sure Shinseki's input was nil. It had the EFFECT of an "ouster" without the mess of explaining why a four-star General was being given the bum's rush.
Why didn't Keith Olbermann have a "conversation" with Mr.s Clinton? He just sat there...
Yes, I noticed that he didn't get up and dance on the table.
Mike, I call people a socialist who claim that our military is a sinister complex of corrupt companies trying to make a buck. The companies who build our weapons, planes, and armor make us the most powerful nation in the world. They allowed us to defeat Japan in WWII. They allowed us to defeat the Soviet Union. They allowed us to save our enemies lives in the first Iraq war. Our capitalist military has protected the US and Europe.
You have such an incredibly simplistic view of Iraq. You actually believe that Sadam would not take an opportunity to work with terrorist? You believe Sadam would no allow terrorist to train in his country? You believe Sadam would not give them money? You believe that Iran is no afraid of a US military presence in Iraq? You must believe this because you want the United States to hide under our blanket and hope a terrorist plot will not be hatched by our enemies.
I noticed that he just zoned out. He did not even correct her when Hillary Clinton stated that Bush was going to be in the white house another couple years !!!
Breaking news:
Gene, Hillary called him Gene.
Maybe she got him confused with the wrestling announcer from the 80's Gene Olbermann
Puck and Dollar you're brilliant,
You can bet these two geniuses will be pointing out every time George Bush slaughters the English language let alone miss state a name.
Right?
'Factor' I don't really give a tinker's damn why you "call people a Socialist".
You are obviously a simpleton, and every one of your posts proves it.
arthurize,
Wrong about what? That JD misleads people here. That he quotes from right wing sources and then criticizes KO for quoting left wing sources. I'm not saying JD is wrong every time. I'm just pointing out he brings a bias to his commentary and therefore sees everything in a way to support his bias. I'm nto saying he shouldn't but he often comes acorss as a hypocite to me.
And did you also notice how very perceptive Hillary was to note that Bush "is going to be in the White House for another coupla years"
WHAAAAAT!!!!!.........No impeachment?
> Where is he ? Banished somewhere.
He's been working hard on the Libby trial. As head of the Media Bloggers Association he got bloggers accredited as press for the trial and he's been coordinating that each day. It's been taking up a lot of his time.
When is he coming back from vacation?
Sharon,
Yeah he could of. Does it come off as stronger using the word "ousted"? I don't think so but I can see what you are saying but since it does not effect the whole context of the story, I think it makes no difference. The article mentions that pentagon officials equated what Rumsfeld did to the general amounted to "castration". Actually that sounds a lot worse than "ousted".
G'night. Vote Obama.
Hold the phone!!!!!
I'm sorry but I might have jumped the gun.
I asked ICN to watch it and they came back and said it might not be a slip. That she was talking about a responsibility gene.
So I could have been wrong and I don't want to be accused of taking anything out of context. Especially with all the people on here that are oh so perfect.
But there's still more interview for tommorow night.
I'd watch it again but I'm tired and if I fall asleep on the couch watching Hillary and Olby I might end up having a nightmare.
Gene Olbermann!!! Damm that would have been good!!!!!!
Puck: Would your nightmare about Hillary and Olby be X rated?
Funny no hawks picked that up?
I know, I know, It hard for anybody to sit through an Olby/Hillary interview.
Damm torture if you ask me.
Somebody posted, that Olby interviewed three Dem candidates today.
Then someone posted did he interview any Republican candidates.
To which the poster replied, they didn't ask.
So Olby the independent will run to interview Dem candidates, but Republican candidates have to ask?
Let me watch that tape one more time, maybe she did say Gene.
Ya know Mike if I do, I'm going to go tell Bill and say it was real.
Nah! I don't want O