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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    January 25, 2007
    Countdown with Keith Olbermann - January 25, 2007

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • WAR ON TRIAL: Jonathan Alter, Newsweek senior editor and MSNBC political analyst
    • VICE PRESIDENT CHENEY: Thomas DeFrank, New York Daily News Washington bureau chief
    • 2008 PRESIDENTIAL CONTENDERS: Chris Cillizza, washingtonpost.com political reporter
    • "AMERICAN IDOL": Maria Milito, Q104.3 radio host

    No installment of Countdown would be complete without the opening spiel, and Keith Olbermann trumpeted it at the maximum allowable decibel level: Sen McCain is "servicing the President", The Great Leak Case, Cheney is a liability, a sky diver murder mystery, and another incisive report on American Idol. The Hour of Spin never disappoints.

    MADMAN

    The show led off with the "gigantic opposition to escalation [Ding!]", which Olby likened in size to the Loch Ness Monster. How could he have forgotten to say "proverbial"? This is just a plan "to throw away more American lives in Iraq". KO informed his viewers that lawmakers are "warying of giving more money to that reconstrut-ton", and that Gen Keane "told members he was not only defeating the, that, not only, defeating the insurgency was never a US military objective", but the plan was to leave it to the Iraqis. A testy exchange between Sen Levin and Sen Richard McCain was spicy enough that Edward R Olbermann actually permitted a soundbite from a supporter of reinforcements to air, albeit one where he is being berated by someone else.

    KO suggested to lefty Alter that McCain is pretty much "on his own", but Alter didn't agree, and reminded Fat Ass that all the wrangling is over a non-binding resolution. He then went on to Jay Rockefeller blasting Cheney, and in response to Olby's hope that the surge could be stopped noted that Hillary wants to cut off funding for Iraq's "mickey-mouse government". Great thanks.

    MADMAN

    In The Great Leak Case, Oralmann claimed that the trial is all about Cheney's credibility and that the Veep had previously said "he had virtually no knowledge about Wilson at all". To "prove" this he played a clip where Cheney says he has no idea who hired Joe Wilson. Um, non-sequitur much? Slippery Shuster gave one of his typically unreliable summaries of the day's testimony, the kind where he rattles off the prosecution's case but ignores the points made on cross-examintion. At Olby's urging, Slippery opined that after today Libby's defense is dead. Since this comes from David "Karl Rove will be indicted" Shuster, the Libby attorneys will be popping champagne corks tonight. Great thanks.

    Next: how much trouble is Cheney in? He's in trouble? Well, on OlbyPlanet anyhow. Joe Biden doesn't like him [clip]. Richard McCain doesn't like him [onscreen quote]. KO wanted to get DeFrank to agree that the Veep might resign, but the newshawk called that "totally far-fetched".

    Stop the tivo! It wasn't that long ago that the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann was flogging a story that Cheney would resign sometime in 2007. Here he is, raising the same subject. Only this time, he was careful to avoid any mention of his original source, the "right-wing slime rag" that only "mongrels" would use as a source: Insight Magazine. Har. Great thanks.

    A Time poll shows Hillary leading all Dems, but losing narrowly to Rudy. Cillizza opined about Hillary's numbers: there's room for growth. Obama: as he becomes better known, he'll improve but his negatives will rise. KO asked if Giuliani's numbers will drop as the "mayor's ex-wives start hammering him in public". (That would be almost as bad as some slovenly political hack's ex-girlfriends ratting on his pathetic behavior.) Great thanks.

    #2: A sky-diving murder (regurgitated NBC reportage), Nicole Kidman, Isaiah Washington, Tara Conner on the Today show (plug) and the Tonight show (plug). #1: Another American Idol analysis. In the Media Matters Minute, a radio station was slammed because a prize winner, who was an illegal alien, threatened to sue them and they in turn threated to inform on her to ICE. Reporting a crime: the latest bizarre qualification to be a "worst person". Plus Melanie Morgan (conservative; Blue Blog Source: Media Matters), and "Fatso" (Olbersaurus) "comedian Rush Limbaugh" (conservative; Blue Blog Source: Media Matters), whom Olby claimed was a KKK-style bigot.

    OLBY

    Quiescent canines: There's a danger when you get your Great Leak Case news from the team of Fat Ass and Slippery. The danger is that they will just leave out anything that doesn't fit the nighly talking points agenda. You will recall how yesterday they failed to mention a key moment in the cross examination of a witness. And there are more non-barking dogs in the Keith's koverage. Joe Wilson tried to give the impression he was sent at the request of the Vice-President, or the Vice-President's office, on his little mission, and repeatedly insisted his wife had nothing to do with it. Yet the AP reports that now we have sworn testimony that his trip was in fact "the brainchild of Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame". Why do you suppose the discredited sports guy refuses to report this? Could it be because he's afraid it makes the sainted Mr Wilson look a little bit disingenous? Ya think? Then there are the calls for Sandy Berger to complete the terms of his plea agreement and take a polygraph test, but the media (especially Herr Olbermann) avoid the story. Olby's still ignoring this SotU poll. We're still waiting for KO to apologize for lying about Simon Cowell, and to explain why he is entitled to report stories from Insight magazine, even reviving the meme of one of them again tonight, but when someone at Fox does it they become "worst person". And in the ongoing scrutiny of Naked Right-Wing Propaganda Masquerading as Entertainment, an episode of Alias involving a terrorist threat ran this morning. Keith Olbermann did not object. Alias is not on Fox.

    NAME

    Olbermann's book The book that bears Olberman's name sunk even further to #7,855 at amazon.com, while "Culture Warrior" rose to #136. The OlbyTome is #2,579 at Barnes & Noble; O'Reilly's book is #189 there, as well as being one of 2006's top ten best sellers. On Wednesday Olbermann once again was creamed by his Factor nemesis, though KO did eke out a distant second-place finish in viewers and in the critical, beloved, all-important, coveted "key demo". Tonight's MisterMeter reading: 2 [LOW]


    Posted by johnny dollar | Permalink | Comments (174) | | View blog reactions
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    Once again, Tom Ricks refused to rubber-stamp the Olbyspin. When is Olby going to learn?

    What, no back rubs for Hillary tonight?

    And has anyone noticed that now they are promoting Keith's Special Comments as if they were a show themself? I agree they are highly humorous and entertaining but do we need any more proof that these SC's are all about ratings for Keith "Edward R. Murrow" Olbermann?

    I think the Speshul Komments are mostly for our amusement.

    Olby apparently supports illegal immigration. That would help his Islamofascist buddies get into the U.S. and attack us again.

    Keith was perfect talking about Pumpkinhead Limbaugh tonight... Too bad he did not use more vicodin so he would have lost all of his hearing for ever. Maybe someday when he is pumping some 14 year old girl in the D.R. he will overdose on his viagra.

    Man this site is lame. Keith Olbermann is a big threat?

    Who, Olby pumping a 14-year old and overdosing on Viagra?

    No, Olby is a big joke, which is why we laugh at him.

    The Associated Press reported that Limbaugh was detained Monday for more than three hours at Palm Beach International Airport, upon returning from some R&R in the Dominican Republic. Customs officials reportedly found a bottle of the erectile-dysfunction drug in his bag--but his name wasn't on the prescription, according to Palm Beach County sheriff's spokesman Paul Miller.

    "Man this site is lame. Keith Olbermann is a big threat?"

    There are lots of blogs and sites on the internet. Perhaps you'll find one that perfectly suites your tastes so that you won't have to visit this one that so displeases you.

    Happy hunting.

    Look the silly jesus freaks are on HBO...

    When you mentioned a teenager and Viagra, it is easy to see how one could think of Olby.

    really.. when he was he busted with either of them ?

    Not yet.

    Keith you're so totally obnoxious.Whow dare you sit there and dishonor our brave military by spewing that Bush is now going to throw away our tax dollars like he has "thrown away American lives".I'm sure the families of these brave soldiers,sailors and marines are soo happy to hear that you,the all knowing KEITH B.O lberman has formed the opinion that their lives were "thrown away",you pompass ass.You sit there with that vantriliquist's puppet look on your face,and I think Hillary has her hand up your butt moving your mouth,denegrading our American troops who are there protecting your life.
    As the father of a marine recruit,I think you are totally dispicable and heartless to make comments such as "throw away" when it comes to American lives.Show them the respect and thanks they ALL deserve you heartless prick....sorry,didnt want to stoop to K.O's name calling level.oh what the hell,yes I did

    "And in the ongoing scrutiny of Naked Right-Wing Propaganda Masquerading as Entertainment, an episode of Alias involving a terrorist threat ran this morning. Keith Olbermann did not object. Alias is not on Fox."

    Alias isn't even IN PRODUCTION anymore. It went off the air last May.

    I know you're trying to make a (very stupid) point, Johnny. But can we at least avoid making it look like you're reaching?

    The show is still being televised. Why doesn't Olby contact ABC or whomever is syndicating Alias and complain? Why doesn't he make them WPITW? There are three open slots (well, not really because Olby usually grants them to those whom he envies). Perhaps the show is affiliated with Olby's Hollywood libnut pals. He would never turn on them - they're his last chance for a paycheck if he ever gets booted off the air.

    Oh, and I forgot - maybe his very young girlfriend likes the show.

    WHAT DOES "MAN ON FAN" MEAN??...I GET ALL THE OTHERS....THIS SIGHT IS TOO FUNNY!!...MY FAVORITE!

    Im not sure if V Pres Cheney should resign but I think he should cause hes really staring to hurt Pres Bush very bad in the worse way cause V Pres Cheneys like 1 of those things they put on there roofs for the lightening to strike instead of the house & it worked for a long long time but it isnt working anymore cause it wore out or fell over I suppose but whats happenings that its striking the house now & Pres Bush is in it cause V Pres Cheney could say dirt in Ga is red & everyone I mean everyone except the misses would say no its not dirt in Ga is gray in other words no one believes anything V Pres Cheney says so when he says Pres Bush is good & we are gonna win the war everybody & I mean everybody says Bush is bad & it isnt gonna happen in fact weve lost. So I think it is time for V Pres Cheney to go cause hes just hurting Pres Bush & not helping the US of America per say & its only gonna get worse everyday from now on until the end of the term. Pres Bush is a good man. V Pres Cheney is good too but not as good & hes not Pres so if 1 has to go for the good of the country that 1 needs to be V Pres Cheney & if he does go then I dont know what will happen but what will happens that itll be a new day for Pres Bush & that means a new day for the US of America cause Pres Bush is good I mean really good cause he listens to God hard & does what God wants so I just hope that God wants V Pres Cheney to quit & tells Pres Bush that cause their is still lots & lots of good stuff Pres Bush can do for the US of America & I wouldnt mind 1 bit if we changed laws & gave Pres Bush another term. Without V Pres Cheney I think hed win & God would do great things thru a great man. I dont know if V Pres listens to God by the way cause his family does some ?able stuff but I cant judge & it doesnt mean hes a bad person but just a bad father & maybe the misses is a bad mother instead. & 1 last thing I hope the Repubs stop attacking Pres Bush cause its getting bad & its makes the DemocRATS & our other enemys happy.

    SITE

    I think Alias is on too late, past her bedtime.

    LOL.

    > WHAT DOES "MAN ON FAN" MEAN??...I GET ALL THE OTHERS

    It's a variant of Oralmann's incessant references to Rick "man on dog" Santorum. As to the specific meaning of "man on fan", well, think about emails, hotel rooms, cheap wine, and use your imagination, if you dare.

    Jennifer Garner may be before her time.

    THX JOHNNY D....YOUR WRITING IS GREAT..I SIT HERE IN MICHIGAN AND LAUGH MY ASS OFF EVERY NIGHT!...CANT BELIEVE ANYONE TAKES THIS OLBER-NUT SERIOUSLY.

    I sit here in Michigan,
    this clears up a lot about U're comments.
    RED STATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    "The show is still being televised. Why doesn't Olby contact ABC or whomever is syndicating Alias and complain?"

    Yeah...and after that he can go complain about reruns of "Combat" and "China Beach"...

    To borrow a phrase from Bill O. - this is "The Most Ridiculous Item Of The Day".

    Hello people.
    This is my 1st time here.I watched Olbermann the other and started laughing. It was a great comedy. I Googled info on Olbermann, and read he's a non partisan newsman. I honestly thought he was a comedian. The way he was making fun of Bush was great! Why are people so upset over him? He's realy funny!Please inform me on this actor. He's great!

    Hello Ensign Expendable, how's your day going? Tell me are a you fan of that great tv actor Keith Olbermann. Please tell me about him. I think he's cool and funny. Do you? Are you a fan?

    Olbermann haters,
    why are you people so upset. What has he done to offend you?

    I tak Olbermann serious cus he sez neat stuff & then he sez more neat stuff & then he thinks cheney's a bad man & cheneys is a bad man & bush
    would do great things with God's help & then Hillary will pe president & then everybody will impeach Hillary & then will have Nancy Pelosi as presw & she'll make us all real proud & then we'll atack Iran & spread democracy there too & it'll all be OK.

    I agree, Dollar smacks it out of the park most every night. EE, to hear you criticize him is akin to a dime rebuking a dollar. Really. Olbermann is also losing his shine over at HuffPo. You can't polish a turd.

    Olberfancy,
    Wow that's some long story. Is it true what you say? I thought Olbermann was making fun of Bush and was being just jest! It's a great show and he seems pretty bright!

    "a dime rebuking a dollar".....hahahahahahahahah!

    Stop, your too much.......hahahahahahahah!

    ObserverDan,
    I think Olbermann has a slow delivey. It's dry Humor. He looks funny too!

    Penney, from you, i'll take that as a compliment. Nice Name.

    olbermann seems like a cool guy. Does he do any charities or having a movie coming out?

    WOW! Even with Hillary on last night, O'Reilly stills beats Olby 3.5 to 1.

    I don't know if Olby can do anything at this point to get a million viewers.

    At this point Johnny, Olby can do nothing but continue down this path. He is so tied to the fanatic group that, if he was to try to show any balance what so ever at this point. This unstable group would turn on him like a pack of wild dogs.

    This is because they have so much invested in him. And anything that will differ from their lock step plan will show as disobedience to the cause.

    He must bow at the alter of Media Matters, Daily Kos, Truthout, Huffington Post, etc.

    He no longer has a choice! He must obey!!!

    Their are real bean counters at NBC who, don't care about someone's leanings be they left or right. They are just looking at numbers. And O'Reilly beating him 3 to 1 or 4 to 1 on any givin' night does not sit well.

    All the promos. All the fluff pieces. All the late night shows. And Olby can't pull a million.

    And you loons are telling me numbers don't matter?

    That higher ups and bean counters at NBC say it does'nt matter?

    Well if you do then you still belive in Tooth Fairies and Labor Unions! And Jim Jones was just a mis-understood socialist.

    Every day O'Reilly is mocking Olby and the whole NBC news dept. on his radio show. Last night on his Fox News show he mocked Olby without making mention of his name. Don't belive me? go over to his site at foxnews.com and watch the interview with Laura Ingraham. He does it in the first minute.

    Was Bill talking about NBC as a whole? Keith? Or Both!!!!!!!!!


    That stuff ain't sittin' well with the NBC brass and Olby can't get the job done, period!!!!

    Go ahead kids, say all you want. A Hillary interview and Olby can't even get a million viewers?

    If Hillary went on O'Reilly? A easy 3 million!

    And if I see it. The bean counters at the top see it.

    34 days to go! And no new contract! If you're boy was all that! I'm sure it being this close somebody would have showed Olby the money! Either at NBC or somewhere else.

    But I don't see nothing in the paper do I?

    Tick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tock Tick Tock

    I Olbermann running for President. He seems more intelligent than Mr.Bush!

    puck,
    Olbermann can go on Satellite Radio!

    "EE, to hear you criticize him is akin to a dime rebuking a dollar."

    Well, anyone with cents would know that the argument isn't worth a plugged nickel. (ba-dum-bum)

    But seriously, he writes. I snark. And the circle of life continues on...

    The only way Olbermann could hope to ever get that kind of an audience would be if he started talking about things like "culture wars", and "Christman wars", and the other similar nonsense that O'Reilly regularly feeds on.

    The problem is politics. Most Americans simply don't want to watch political shows, as fascinating as they are to some of us. Just take look at Hardball's ratings, whose relatively low ratings always comes as a surprise to me.

    J$- do you know what site to go and see what John Stewart's and Colbert's 8:00 PM ratings are? I rarely stay up much later than 11:00 PM, so I often watch their 8:00 PM reruns instead of watching Olby. I know I'm not the only person that is siphoned away from watching Countdown by Stewart/Colbert.

    "Most Americans simply don't want to watch political shows, as fascinating as they are to some of us..."

    Stop the presses: Countdown is a political show?

    Olbermann and MSNBC tell us it's a news show.

    Hmm, wonder if Olbermann will do a show on this topic? A self-described liberal professor from Syracuse has determined that conservatives overwhelmingly give more money and time to charities than liberals.

    And that includes secular or non-religious charities or institutions.

    Much much more money. Much much more time.

    http://www.city-journal.org/html/rev2007-01-18hh.html

    The left has produced a moral shift in society that has resulted in a deluge of gross depravity and immorality...The Islamic radicals are now convinced that America represents the revival of pagan barbarism in the world and 9/11 represents their ongoing battle with what they perceive to be the forces of Satan.

    If it talks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck......it's a duck!

    If it looks like a political show, sounds like a political show.......it's a political show!

    "Much much more money. Much much more time."

    I'd have more money and time to give, too, if I were getting the tax breaks of the wealthy and had a CEO's vacation time.

    I'd have more money and time to give, too, if I were getting the tax breaks of the wealthy and had a CEO's vacation time.

    Posted by: indierik at January 25, 2007 10:53 PM

    Yeah, well, you'd be featured on Broadway if you could sing and act too.

    Cecelia, you crack me up. Breakfast is on me.

    G-Nite and GO GATORS (Still the #1 hoops team in the USA).

    Cecelia, you crack me up. Breakfast is on me.

    G-Nite and GO GATORS (Still the #1 hoops team in the USA).

    Posted by: indierik at January 25, 2007 11:16 PM

    Starting saving now...

    What Olbymoron didn't have the unarmed black guy
    who was shot 16 times by NYC finest?????Oh thats
    right can't make NYC and the Dems who run it look
    bad..........at least he could have had someone
    from the NYPD who teaches marksmanship come in and explain how these idiots could shoot someone 16 times and not kill him!!!

    "another incisive report on American Idol. "

    This seems to be a theme on all of the MessoNBC
    programs Tucker, Scarbough and of course Olbymoron
    bash Foxs idol....i guess they are trying to tear
    down idol so people watch their "gease" show.

    Bill O'liely won't mention Keith Olbermann's seducing young ladies using the MSNBC company email address and dumping them with a lame excuse like my Aunt passed away and I can't see you anymore. Also from what I hear that Keith Olbermann is a loser in bed and that he needs help with the magic blue pill to get it up...

    Carl Bernstein: Bush Administraton Has Done 'Far Greater Damage' Than Nixon
    Published: January 24, 2007 4:00 PM ET updated Thursday

    NEW YORK In an online chat at washingtonpost.com on Wednesday afternoon, Carl Bernstein, the famed Watergate reporter at that paper and now writing articles for Vanity Fair, took several hard shots at the current Bush administration -- almost every time he was asked about the Nixon era. It came just as news of the death of former Watergate ringleader E. Howard Hunt was circulating widely.

    After a long explanation of how the American system "worked," eventually, with Watergate, Bernstein said:

    "In the case George W. Bush, the American system has obviously failed -- tragically -- about which we can talk more in a minute. But imagine the difference in our worldview today, had the institutions -- particularly of government -- done their job to ensure that a mendacious and dangerous president (as has since been proven many times over, beyond mere assertion) be restrained in a war that has killed thousands of American soldiers, brought turmoil to the lives of millions, and constrained the goodwill towards the United States in much of the world."

    Later, asked if the Nixon administration was unique in hiring disreputable characters, he replied: "Until the Bush-43 administration, I had believed that the Nixon presidency was sui generis in modern American history in terms of your question...

    "In terms of small-bore (but dangerous) characters like Howard Hunt and Gordon Liddy with their schemes, I doubt that any presidency approaches the criminality of the Nixon White House. But the Watergate conspiracy--to undermine the constitution and use illegal methods to hurt Nixon's political opponents and even undermine the electoral system--was supervised by those at the very top.

    "In the current administration we have seen from the President down -- especially Vice President Cheney, Attorney General Gonzales, Condoleeza Rice, Donald Rumsfeld -- a willingness to ignore the great constitutional history of the United States -- to suspend, really, many of the constitutional guarantees that have made us a nation apart, with real freedoms unknown elsewhere, unrestricted by short-term political objectives of our leaders.

    "Then there are the Geneva conventions: Who would have dreamed that, in our lifetime, our leaders would permit their flagrant abuse, would authorize torture, 'renditions' to foreign-torture chambers, suspension of habeus corpus, illegal surveillance of our own citizens....

    "But perhaps worst, has been the lying and mendacity of the president and his men and women--in the reasons they cited for going to war, their conduct of the war, their attempts to smear their political opponents.

    "Nixon and his men lied and abused the constitution to horrible effect, but they were stopped.

    "The Bush Administration -- especially its top officials named above and others familiar to most Americans -- was not stopped, and has done far greater damage. As a (Republican) bumper-sticker of the day proclaimed, 'Nobody died at Watergate.' If only we could say that about the era of George W. Bush, and that our elected representatives in Congress and our judiciary had been courageous enough to do their duty and hold the President and his aides accountable."

    Bernstein was also asked about the CIA leak case and the leaking of Valerie Plame's name, which he called "a truly Nixonian event, a happenstance not atypical of the take-no-prisoners politics of the Bush presidency. But it pales in comparison to the larger questions of the Constitution, of life and death, of the Geneva conventions, of the expectation that our leaders -- from Condoleeza Rice to Dick Cheney, to the attorney(s) general to Paul Wolfowitz and on down and up the line speak truthfully to the American people and the Congress. They have consistently failed to do so."

    DAVOS-U.S. invasion was "idiot decision"-Iraq vice president
    25 Jan 2007 13:11:04 GMT
    Source: Reuters

    DAVOS, Switzerland, Jan 25 (Reuters) - The U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003 was an "idiot decision" and Iraqi troops now need to secure Baghdad to ensure the country's future, Vice-President Adel Abdul Mahdi said on Thursday.

    "Iraq was put under occupation, which was an idiot decision," Mahdi said at the World Economic Forum in Davos.

    Mahdi said the Iraqi government planned to bring troops in to Baghdad from surrounding areas and said it was "a technical question" for the United States to decide whether to deploy more soldiers.

    President George W. Bush plans to send another 21,500 troops to Iraq, a move widely criticised in the United States. On Wednesday, the Senate Foreign Relations Committee voted against the decision, which is due to go before the Senate next week.

    According to the Iraqi VP, invading his country was an "idiot decision".
    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Great to see that we're in good hands, and working closely with the Iraqis in this new escalation of our American troops.

    Sounds like we can trust the Iraqi VP, too.

    He seems to know his stuff !

    WASHINGTON: The spokeswoman for Vice President Dick Cheney, Cathie Martin, told a jury Thursday that she informed Cheney and his chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby Jr., that the wife of a prominent critic of the invasion of Iraq worked for the CIA days before Libby contended he heard the information from a reporter.

    Oops ! Spokeswoman for Cheney corroborated that Libby lied ?

    Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

    She later testified information that directly contradicted Dick Cheney's former statements .

    Oops !

    Could Cheney be lying too?

    Nooooooooooooooooooooo!

    The RWer's on here will just say it's all a mirage, and it didn't happen.Hey guys, take the blindfolds off when you say that.

    It looks more convincing !

    Cheny is a big fat liar! Throw him out of the White Housee!

    Cee:" Bushkill is just trying to change the subject.
    The subject should and always will be about me, and how pious I am, and how great our president is."

    Cecilia:"Could you please give me a link on that story , please?
    Prove to me there's a trial going on.
    And not from any major liberal newspaper, either".


    Red Wolf: "Did you know I'm Hispanic"?

    Puck:"Figures, the trials in LA get better ratings than this Libby Washington trial.Who are they trying to kid " ?

    Grammie: "The sum of the squares of any two sides of an Isoceles triangle are equal to the square of the remaining side, which proves the liberals are responsible for the deaths in iraq."

    Grim Challenger:"I don't care if I look stupid spouting my non scientific little ditties about global warming.Science is for nerds, anyway ! "

    Grim:" So you think there are 1600 scientists proving that man is creating global warming?
    I can provide 1500 that disagree.

    Not right now, though."

    Cecilia:" I believe in global warming( Bush said it didn't he? )but I don't believe man created it.
    I would need scientific evidence for that."( or at least hear George Bush say it.)

    Cee:" I think that Cecilia and Grammie make some excellent points."

    Cecilia:" I think cee makes some excellent points, and if you don't understand what he's trying to say, you're just a biased liberal."

    Grammie:" Hey cecilia, what else should I serve with my martinis and roadkill I just picked up for my dinner party with the local chapter of the KKK ?

    Red Wolf: " I say kill everybody, except Hispanics.
    Did you know I'm Hispanic ?"

    Bushkill is killing tonight.

    "What Olbymoron didn't have the unarmed black guy
    who was shot 16 times by NYC finest?????Oh thats
    right can't make NYC and the Dems who run it look
    bad..........at least he could have had someone
    from the NYPD who teaches marksmanship come in and explain how these idiots could shoot someone 16 times and not kill him!!!"

    Dude...what are you going on about? I have absolutely no idea what this is in reference to. Please either elaborate on it, provide a source of information or get off the stage.

    Cee: "Did you know that I'm a holy man of God? "

    but I don't like to wear my religion on my sleeve.
    That's kinda tacky"

    Quote of the week:
    Libby: "Someone in the White House is setting me up.I'm not going to take the fall for Karl Rove"

    (I think that ship has passed already, Scooter !)

    Ok..Was I dreaming, or was Bushkill doing something funny (trying) along the lines of everyone's favorite comedienne, talk-show host, actress and liberal activist extraordinaire....Rosie O'Donnell?

    Hey Rosie (Bushkill)....Please try to get Grammie's dry humor better next time....Otherwise your impersonations were cute...Keep trying honey.

    To Rosie's points....A la Bernstein...The hysterical (ooops I meant historical), hyperbole involving the destructions of human rights, constitutional rights and spilling coffee are nothing new....especially because I read the posts from the left on this site almost everyday.

    My response to Rosie's pathetic cut/paste job at 12:04 AM.....First where's the EVIDENCE!...and do not give us anonymous government sources, poll numbers, hearsay from individuals with known political/ideological agendas or uncorroborated accusations from people with known political/ideological agendas....Bernstein is a journalist and should be providing VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE that can be examined and judged for credibility.....by everyone.

    Next...IF these accusations of Bernstein are true..Why has Nancy Pelosi stated Impeachment is not going to be pursued (ala 60 MINUTES interview)?....As an American I am appauled that The President of The United States and his agents have trampled Constitutional rights, acted in a criminal manner, destroyed evidence AND killed small animals!!!.....THEY SHOULD BE PROSECUTED!!!!...WHY IS NO ONE PROSECUTING THEM?!? PLEEEEESE TELL ME WHY! WHY! WHY!

    Ahem...I am in control now...I am back from the borderline personality fugue state induced by reading Rosie's (Bushkill) posts.....Be careful fellow OW readers, it is dangerous stuff and borderline breaks are not fun!

    Anyway, please tell me you are going down to DC tomorrow, Rosie....Join our dear Professor Bunsen Honeydew (Bob) and many (we'll see) more who are demanding The Democrats....

    CUT FUNDING TO THE TROOPS
    IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT & VICE PRESIDENT

    That is what you want, right Rosie? Put that sneaker rubber to the pavement, practice "Give peace a chance...," and show us all how great democracy in action is...Make sure you say hello to the others for me...and we'll talk about NUMBERS on Monday.

    So that you know for sure it was me that posted this response, Rosie....God bless you!

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    Oh, how sweet! Bushkill missed me last night.

    "Irrelevant" is what Imus said
    Edward Murrow has gone to Keith's head
    "Good night and good luck"
    Egotistical f---
    I'll be watching O'Reilly instead

    Wow! You've gotta love Republicans. Bush is gonna insure everybody by giving the poor a tax break so that they can take the zero dollars that they don't pay and put it towards health insurance...

    But, who is more brain-dead: Bush or the morons who believe what he states?

    A la Bernstein...The hysterical (ooops I meant historical), hyperbole involving the destructions of human rights, constitutional rights and spilling coffee are nothing new....especially because I read the posts from the left on this site almost everyday.

    Of course it's nothing new, IT'S BEEN WELL DOCUMENTED, AND ONLY THE TRULY BLIND DON'T SEE (CEE) IT.
    cee thinks he knows more than Carl Bernstein.
    cee is a legend in his own mind.

    Oh, how sweet! Bushkill missed me last night.

    Posted by: Cecelia at January 26, 2007 7:42 AM

    He sure had your number.

    BBC - serious news?- seriously left news!

    liberal anon at 9:40 AM
    .....show me the money....I mean evidence.

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    BBC is leftest? That's funny, since the British press is susceptable to imprisonment if the government doesn't like what they print...

    You loser lefties have no perspective on news bias.
    You even think Olby is unbiased!
    Shaddup!
    All you know is Fox is bad
    Double shaddup!

    Even CNN calls out the BBC

    Show you the evidence?

    Bob Woodward, Carl Bernstein and hundreds of journalists have been documenting the "crimimal manner" the way this administration is doing business for 6 years.

    Cee casts it all off with a wave of his hand .
    And then asks for proof.

    What a dope !

    And the reason the Democrats AREN'T going to start impeachment proceedings is because they know it wouldn't be good for the country . The Republicans didn't care about the country in the 90's with Clinton, that's obvious.
    The adults are in charge now, and that's why Cee is bewildered why things are going as they are.

    The usual neocon moron. I offer facts and she offers stupidity...

    "The show is still being televised. Why doesn't Olby contact ABC or whomever is syndicating Alias and complain?"

    Yeah...and after that he can go complain about reruns of "Combat" and "China Beach"...
    ====================================================
    EE, I'm wondering when he's going to complain about G.I. Joe.

    "And knowing is half the battle!"
    (what's the other half?)
    "VIOLENCE!"

    No bias at BBC
    Maybe you missed their own investigation


    "We are biased, admit the stars of BBC News"

    It was the day that a host of BBC executives and star presenters admitted what critics have been telling them for years: the BBC is dominated by trendy, Left-leaning liberals who are biased against Christianity and in favour of multiculturalism.

    A leaked account of an ‘impartiality summit’ called by BBC chairman Michael Grade, is certain to lead to a new row about the BBC and its reporting on key issues, especially concerning Muslims and the war on terror.

    It reveals that executives would let the Bible be thrown into a dustbin on a TV comedy show, but not the Koran, and that they would broadcast an interview with Osama Bin Laden if given the opportunity. Further, it discloses that the BBC’s ‘diversity tsar’, wants Muslim women newsreaders to be allowed to wear veils when on air.

    At the secret meeting in London last month, which was hosted by veteran broadcaster Sue Lawley, BBC executives admitted the corporation is dominated by homosexuals and people from ethnic minorities, deliberately promotes multiculturalism, is anti-American, anti-countryside and more sensitive to the feelings of Muslims than Christians.

    One veteran BBC executive said: ‘There was widespread acknowledgement that we may have gone too far in the direction of political correctness.

    Grim Challenger:"I don't care if I look stupid spouting my non scientific little ditties about global warming.Science is for nerds, anyway ! "
    ===================================================
    What? It is? Man, i wish I knew that before I majored in science at college. OH wait... I'm the king of nerds. Go ahead, try and outgeek me. =P

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Grim:" So you think there are 1600 scientists proving that man is creating global warming?
    I can provide 1500 that disagree.

    Not right now, though."
    ==================================================
    Ask and ye shall recieve
    http://www.sitewave.net/pproject/listbystate.htm

    Wow, my comment maxed out.

    As I had at the end, that's 15,000 scientists you moron (you forgot a 0).

    But of course, GW has scientific consensus. Just as Bob and ignore the names above.

    Oh yeah, I almost forgot. In case people don't really believe what the petition is about:

    http://www.sitewave.net/pproject/

    Oh, and in case shaun swings by today.

    The amount spent on climate study? $5 billion per year

    "In the United States alone, more than $2 billion is spent annually for climate studies, not including the costs of satellites, ships, and laboratory construction. Climatologists have obtained this immense amount of funding by creating the vision of a man-made planetary climate catastrophe." (http://mitosyfraudes.8k.com/INGLES/Warm.html)

    But of course, only those relying upon EEEEEEVIL coporation money are corrupt. Because we all know grant, NGO etc money has been washed and blessed by the EPA so that it's holy and uncorrupting.

    In other words, if one side of the debate gets to be discredited because of money, then the other side gets to be discredited too. Now, can we drop that point or do any of you insist on stalemating the debate?

    Poor Grim! Let's look at some of his "scientists"...Alaska:

    Ronald G. Alderfer: published a scientific paper in 1971. Nothing since.
    Donald F. Amend: a fisheries scientist.
    David Anderson: a Bush political appointee Asst Secretary for Indian Affairs.
    Roger Baer: mineralogist
    Alex Baskous: medical doctor
    Don Bassler: petroleum engineer
    Don Beitia: executive at Unocal and president of the oil industry's response cooperative.
    James Boltz: Petro Star, Inc, running a refinery in Alaska
    John K. Bowman: author of "The Use of Woodwaste for Road Construction in SE Alaska"
    Mike Briscoe: Director of GTP Technologies, BP America (British Petroleum)
    William Burgess: geotechnical and environmental consultant
    Bonnie Carrington: BA in Architecture, works with computers
    Glen D. Chambers: BS Mechanical Engineering, retired businessman
    Lowell Crane: BP Exploration, Alaska

    Ok generic. Not only do I wait for you to do that to every scientist, but how about we check all the pro-global warming ones?

    So chicken blogger!
    You rip on .1% of the scientists as your defense?
    Man you are reaching!
    You are THE poor soul.

    PS. Yeah that's right POINT one percent!

    Our holy man Cee, keeps screaming to cut the funds.
    I mean frigging screaming.

    The Democrats are working in the proper ADULT manner, with first the resolutions.
    Adult is the key word, as someone mentioned above.

    Hey Holyman, how fast did the republican congress work to get things done for six years?

    Oh , that's right, they didn't do squat.
    The holy FACT MAN likes to ignore THAT fact.
    Wonder why.

    The holy man knows that if the democrats cut off funding without resolutions and congressional debate, it would be political suicide, and lessen their chances for a victory in 08.'

    THAT is why the holy man is screaming for them to cut the funds,each and every day.

    A bigger phony has never been found.

    The "holy cee" is a total frigging fraud.

    Dear Obviously,

    I haven't looked at all of them, but these are the first several. Show me a hundred qualified environmental scientists or meterologists from the list or go to the kiddie pool, son...

    Grim-

    But the GWI (Global Warming Inquisition-ers) are telling us the truth while the others are discredited liars.

    Once again I gotta point out how the GWI attacks the scientists and the funding of prople of opposing views, but they do not seem to even address the data.

    Heck you almost need a Babel fish to understand the logic of people like shaun/Bob.....and their ilk

    hmmm...... I noticed generic left out some names in his little span there...

    Donald N Anderson- (from http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/AN094WKYK3HJE)Born 1938.
    Graduated Bremerton, Washington High School 1956
    Gradusted: Olympic Community college 1958 AA, Central Washington U. 1961 BAE, 1965 BS, Reed College 1965 MAT, Washington State U. 1971 Ph.D, U. of North Carolina 1972. Climber in Olympics, Cascades, Idaho, Wind Rivers,Tetons. Cordierra Blanca-Peru, and Alaska. Computer programmer and analyst. Business owner since 1978. Commodity trader.
    (oh, and don't forget, a lot of the GW stuff is based upon computer models so... yeah I think a programmer would have valuable input)

    William M Bohon- Not able to find much skimming, but it does seem he helped invent a method to fight corosion in 2003. http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6505650.html
    (but I'm sure corosion has nothing to do with the weather)

    Carrel Bryant- Seems to be a member of SPE (http://www.spe.org/spe/jsp/homepage) which... hey look! they're concerned about environmental impact of oil etc. But I thought those involved with Oil hated the environment. (*gasp* another preconception shattered - just like all republicans are religious nutjobs =P)

    Roger C. Burggraf- Turned up this:http://www.fairbankschamber.org/search.php?catID=263&catName=Natural%20Resources%20%E2%80%93%20Gold%20Mining%20&%20Energy
    # Silverado Green Fuel, Inc.
    499 St. Patricks Road
    Fairbanks, AK 99708
    Tel: 479-7014
    Fax: 455-4653
    Contact: Edward J. Armstrong, President or Roger C. Burggraf, External Relations Manager

    What! Green Fuel! Quick, someone explain how he's evil and... and stuff for disagreeing with the dogma.

    So chicken blogger!
    You rip on .1% of the scientists as your defense?
    Man you are reaching!
    You are THE poor soul.

    PS. Yeah that's right POINT one percent!

    Posted by: Obviously no name for a reason! at January 26, 2007 10:38 AM

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    WTD???

    I haven't been to this site for weeks, and I see nothing has changed - paticularly the pious little eunuch "cee". This smarmy turd claims to be a physician, but he doesn't seem to ever work...could it be that he no longer can practice due to an addiction to stolen opiates? That would exlain some of his wild-ass delusion and his inability to do take any form of logical action to back his wretched rhetoric.

    Enlist, you cowardly f---.

    Rosie (Bushkill),

    The Democrats ran on stopping the war....."adult" or whatever you want to try to dress it up as....nonbinding resolutions do nothing to end the war and are not necessary to impeachment ivestigations, funding allocation restrictions or legislation that limits force or poses time tables for deployment.

    The previous Republican Congress supported the freedom fighters (our troops) in Iraq, so it would have been a contradiction for them to try to limit the commander-in-chief....the left does not support the troops so I ask again....where is the action?

    So answer my question.....Rosie....Are you marching for peace this weekend?....Are you going to avoid my questions once again?


    Oh...and lefty anon....if there are hundreds of journalists who have written about evidence regarding administration crimial activity then you should be able to offer one example..... please be my guest.

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    You tan Sir Loing.
    Welcome back... these damn Bush lovers have been
    handing us our asses while you were gone.

    Grim doesn't know how stupid he sounds trying to defend the indefensible.
    His (actually less than .1 %) of scientists that AREN'T SURE if co2 and man made waste causes global warming pales to the more significant and most respected parts of the scientific community that ARE SURE.

    REPORT: THE TRUTH ABOUT GLOBAL WARMING
    Friday, January 26, 2007 - FreeMarketNews.com

    A report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, a panel within the U.N., will be released Feb. 2 in Paris, according to Reuters. The report took six years to compile and contains research from 2,500 scientists from 130 countries.

    R.K. Pachauri, the panel’s chairman, said the report provides the most credible link to date of a human connection to global warming and he told Reuters that he hopes the report “will shock people, governments into taking more serious action.” Sources say the report will conclude it is 90 percent certain human activities are to blame for global warming during the previous half century.

    Scientists warned Monday that glaciers will disappear from the Alps by 2050, according to Yahoo! News. The glaciers have been melting at a rate of 3 percent per year and scientists warned that disappearance could occur as early as 2037 if the melting continues at the current rate. But they stopped short of blaming global warming for the melting.

    Tofutti!!!

    Your back!!!

    And right away you raise the level of debate on this site that you complain about (in the same post even) by you words:

    pious little eunuch
    smarmy turd
    addiction to stolen opiates
    wild-ass delusion
    wretched rhetoric
    cowardly f*ck

    Great Thanks for your contributions to civil debate!

    I haven't looked at all of them, but these are the first several. Show me a hundred qualified environmental scientists or meterologists from the list or go to the kiddie pool, son...
    ==================================================
    Oh it's on (i tried replying earlier, but it seemed to have been blocked, let's try this a different way)

    Zbigniew Jaworowski, M.D., Ph.O., and D.Sc., who is a professor at the Central Laboratory for Radiologi-cal Protection in Warsaw. A multidisciplinary scientist, he has studied glacier ice samples from around the world, analyzing traces of heavy metals and radionuclides. He is well known as an expert on radiation effects, and has served as the chairman of the UNSCEAR (United Nations Committee on the Effects of Atomic Radiation). Among his previous articles in 21st Century Science & Technology is "Ice Core Data Show No Carbon Dioxide Increase, " Spring 1997, p. 42.

    James Spann http://www.jamesspann.com/blog.htm ("I do not know of a single TV meteorologist who buys into the man-made global warming hype. I know there must be a few out there, but I can’t find them.")

    Joe D'Aleo
    Chief WSI/INTELLICAST Meteorologist (http://www.intellicast.com/DrDewpoint/Library/1210/)

    Of course, I'm sure that you'll claim these folks are "disqualified" for reasons that ultimately boil down to: "they disagree with me".

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Welcome back... these damn Bush lovers have been
    handing us our asses while you were gone.
    ==================================================
    What? Bob, I thought you had claimed "mission accomplished" and declared victory.

    Grim,

    That was .1 percent taken from the first .1 percent. Don't be stupid, son. You know what that means. I looked at the first two names in California, both biologists...

    Wow, Grim...three!

    Grim,

    Clearly Bob was using sarcasm. You idiot drowning rats couldn't win an argument with the wadded kleenex littering your desktop.

    Hey, the calvary is here....a knight in shinig armor!.....Sir Loin of Milquetoast. You guys will see a master at work (sarcasm).

    BTW Loin, I post in between patients....it takes me only 30-40 seconds to create a rebuttal to most of the silliness spewed here from your ideological comrades.

    You, however do demand a little more and I may have to actually think some more today!

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    Scientists warned Monday that glaciers will disappear from the Alps by 2050, according to Yahoo! News. The glaciers have been melting at a rate of 3 percent per year and scientists warned that disappearance could occur as early as 2037 if the melting continues at the current rate. But they stopped short of blaming global warming for the melting.
    ==================================================
    Man, I wish the UN would make up their bloody mind...
    "The UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change says there can be little doubt that humans are responsible for warming the planet, but the organisation has reduced its overall estimate of this effect by 25 per cent.

    It also says that the overall human effect on global warming since the industrial revolution is less than had been thought, due to the unexpected levels of cooling caused by aerosol sprays, which reflect heat from the sun."
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/12/10/nclimate10.xml
    (and in case you wonder, yeah, the article is from Nov '06)

    Wow, so it's not as bad as they thought? Man, I wonder what we'll all learn tomorrow to invalidate what we know today. And why didn't they blame the melting on GW? What do they have to lose if they do?

    Grim,

    Shouldn't you be finding a hundred meteorologists or environmental scientists from your petition? Or, like a typical neocon, have you dropped that argument and pretend it never existed?...

    "You idiot drowning rats couldn't win an argument with the wadded kleenex littering your desktop."

    Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at January 26, 2007 11:08 AM

    Well, I wouldn't have likened my political opponents to a wadded kleenex, but if you insist, I'll certainly agree that you've won THAT argument...

    Clearly Bob was using sarcasm. You idiot drowning rats couldn't win an argument with the wadded kleenex littering your desktop.
    ===================================================
    Especially fighting the "it's true because I say so!" method of "reasoning" so many of you use.

    But that's ok, be secure in your own pride and mind. Heaven prevent that you actually question things and try to think for yourself.

    Shouldn't you be finding a hundred meteorologists or environmental scientists from your petition? Or, like a typical neocon, have you dropped that argument and pretend it never existed?...
    ====================================================
    It IS a lot of names, I'll have to search each and every one of them when I have more free time (probably later tonight). I'm still waiting for the same curtesy from your POV also.

    Oh, and I just wanted to say, I never use the "time" argument against people. You know the "hey, we've been waiting for a whole 5 minutes, where's your answer?" type of reply. Mostly because I realize that it will take people time and effort to research replies etc etc


    I guess that level of civility is too much to ask of leftists. I wonder sometimes if ANY civility is too much to ask...

    Is this Global Warming watch?

    Grim,

    Let's make this easy on each other. Let's just pick a state and see what percentage from that random state has a relevant PhD...

    You pick...

    Let's make this easy on each other. Let's just pick a state and see what percentage from that random state has a relevant PhD...

    You pick...
    ===================================================
    Agreed, I'll post my reply when I am set up to search. I'll repost this statement with the state at that time.

    Funny how the "holy cee"( fits) keeps asking people if they're going to the antiwar rally.
    He got a big thumbs up from me, so now he's asking the next guy.
    He's probably afraid that the numbers will be too large, for then he'll just say:"Doesn't matter, they don't run foreign policy. The honorable George Bush does."

    Also cee keeps asking for examples about this administration's criminal activities.
    Hey Lapdog, there's a trial going on and revealing more information about it every day.
    Maybe you haven't noticed!
    Funny.

    Yesterday, the Cheney's chief spokeswoman testifed information that shows both Libby and Cheney have lied in their public comments.
    Time to swiftboat Cathie Martin, Cee?

    Also, there are many documented cases of criminal activity amoung your boys.
    Bush signed a secret order in 2002 authorizing the National Security Agency to eavesdrop on U.S. citizens and foreign nationals in the United States, despite previous legal prohibitions against such domestic spying.

    I could go on, but that's not why I'm writing today.
    Each week I find a least 2- 3 examples of how this administration is hurting our country.
    The most recent is that Bush has made an agreement with Mexico to allow millions of illegal Mexican workers to draw billions of dollars from the Social Security Trust Fund.
    If it were not for the Freedom of Information Act, many would not be aware of this plan.
    This is just part of Bush's plan to diminish the resources of Social Security and destroy it.
    He is doing indirectly what he doesn't have the courage to do directly.
    His only loyalty is to the rich coffers of the Republican party, not to the American people.
    He failed to privatize Social Security and has never given up on his intention to do away with Social Security.
    As Lou Dobbs, eloquently reports on a daily basis, he wants to sell the middle class down the river.

    Of course, I suppose we can ask for help, anyone know which state has the fewest oil investments (companies, researches... etc) involved in it? (so obviously that will rule out Alaska and Texas) That should be a fair filter no?

    Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pa at January 26, 2007 11:03 AM
    ------
    Please provide numbers to prove that ONLY less than .1% of scientists are disbelievers in man induced global warming

    Welcome back... these damn Bush lovers have been
    handing us our asses while you were gone.
    ==================================================
    What? Bob, I thought you had claimed "mission accomplished" and declared victory.

    Posted by: Challenger Grim at January 26, 2007 11:05 AM

    Like that was me posting.
    Like you haven't seen enough of Red Wolf's nonsense to notice .

    Grim,

    Yeah, I think that a non-oil state would be best...

    The most recent is that Bush has made an agreement with Mexico to allow millions of illegal Mexican workers to draw billions of dollars from the Social Security Trust Fund.
    ===================================================
    Hey Bob, I'm not exactly in favor of that too.
    ...
    So how many elected Democrats have spoken out against/made an issue of illegal immigration? (of course, I should also point out that I-I is one of those issues that conservatives have always been ticked off about toward Bush)

    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
    Also cee keeps asking for examples about this administration's criminal activities.
    Hey Lapdog, there's a trial going on and revealing more information about it every day.
    ===================================================
    I'm still curious as to what crime the trial appears to be prosecuting. I mean, all we have really, is perjury and it's entirely based upon someone's memory. I mean, you're telling me you've never "lied" because you misremembered something? i.e. "Oh sure, I think I had lunch with her on march 4th." "Sorry sir, it was actually MAY 4th as cameras and other records show. You're under arrest for lying to the feds."

    And someone no one finds this trial to be more frightening than eavesdropping on out of country calls?

    Like that was me posting.
    Like you haven't seen enough of Red Wolf's nonsense to notice .
    ===================================================
    My apologies Bob. I guess Wolf has learned his lesson and is keeping his imitations to a minimum so stylistic differences are fewer and harder to detect.

    To whomever is doing it, STOP. It's completely dishonorable and doesn't help any discussion on this board.


    WHITE HOUSE'S FLEISCHER BAMBOOZLES SPECIAL PROSECUTOR FITZGERALD

    -- Criminal Obstructionist Leaker Offers Help, Gets Immunity, Then Clams Up --

    -- Praetorian Republo-Fascists Tickled With Press Secretary's Dishonest Subversion of Rule of Law --

    WASHINGTON (AP) -- Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald took a gamble three years ago that White House press secretary Ari Fleischer might break open his leak investigation. As Fitzgerald's inquiry was heating up into who revealed CIA operative Valerie Plame's name to reporters, Fleischer stepped forward with an offer: Give me immunity from prosecution and I'll give you information that might help your case. What prosecutors didn't know was that Fleischer was one of the leakers. And without immunity, he refused to talk. Not even a hint. Prosecutors normally insist on an informal account of what a witness will say before agreeing to immunity. It's known in legal circles as a proffer, and Fitzgerald said Thursday that he never got one from Fleischer. "I didn't want to give him immunity. I did so reluctantly," Fitzgerald said in court. "I was buying a pig in a poke."


    Now this is relavent to KO. For those who don't always believe that perspective is everything:

    "Loaded Language and the Minimum Wage

    Senate Republicans forced the Democrats to add $8 billion in tax breaks for small businesses to offset the cost of a minimum-wage hike, postponing the passage of new minimum-wage legislation for about a week. This, however, is how the Reuters news agency played the story:

    Senate Republicans block minimum wage hike

    Why not go with "Senate Democrats try to block new tax cuts for small business" instead? Too dog-bites-man?"

    Just goes to prove (as I'm sure Keith has perfected) that you can find every cloud to a silver lining if you look hard enough.

    Grim,

    >>Why not go with "Senate Democrats try to block new tax cuts for small business" instead? Too dog-bites-man?"

    Because it wasn't a tax-cut bill...

    The Neanderthals at this site that say either global warming isn't happening or that man isn't causing it,make me laugh.

    There are countless examples to prove how dangerous global warming is to our planet, and what is causing it.I have provided many of these examples in the past.
    I don't feel a need to continue giving them.

    And if man isn't causing global warming, why is Europe and other industrialized nations instituting "green" policies to reverse the trend of global warming?
    Even our own federal agency, the Environmental Protection Agency, had a surprising endorsement of what many scientists and weather experts have long argued " that human activities such as oil refining, power plants and automobile emissions are important causes of global warming".

    Arguing with idiots like Grim and cecilia on this issue is a futile and total waste of time.

    The world has looked at the data and has concluded that our junk that we put in the air is causing our climate change.
    The world is now taking action to do something about it, while the lame and the truly lame continue to argue that it's not occurring.

    Good, let them.


    Our next president, whether democrat or republican, will institute a comprehensive plan to start to reduce our reliance on fossil fuels and try to catch up with the rest of the world and attempt to make up for the wasted 8 years under our corporate friendly president.

    My apologies Bob. I guess Wolf has learned his lesson and is keeping his imitations to a minimum so stylistic differences are fewer and harder to detect.

    To whomever is doing it, STOP. It's completely dishonorable and doesn't help any discussion on this board.

    Posted by: Challenger Grim at January 26, 2007 11:40 AM

    I accept your apology, Grim.

    By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer 46 minutes ago

    WASHINGTON -
    President Bush, on a collision course with Congress over
    Iraq, said Friday "I'm the decision-maker" about sending more troops to the war. He challenged skeptical lawmakers not to prematurely condemn his buildup.

    And your decisions on Iraq have been so good , George.

    Jesu !

    The Decider!
    God help us all !

    "Why not go with "Senate Democrats try to block new tax cuts for small business" instead?"

    because the BILL was a minimum wage hike - while the AMENDMENT was a tax cut. Of course, the news services could have been really nasty and pointed out the TWO amendments offed by Republicans to abolish the federal minimum wage entirely (both measures failed, but 28 Republicans did vote for the one proffered by Sen. Allard and 18 voted for the one proffered by Sen. DeMint).

    Given all the outrage Keith spewed in the wake of the 2004 election over alleged Republican vote fraud in Ohio, this story which the Associated Press ran Wednesday is pretty ironic. It proves Olbermann was right! ... well, sort of:

    ***
    By M.R. KROPKO
    Associated Press Writer

    CLEVELAND - Two election workers were convicted Wednesday of rigging a recount of the 2004 presidential election to avoid a more thorough review in Ohio's most populous county.

    Jacqueline Maiden, elections coordinator of the Cuyahoga County Elections Board, and ballot manager Kathleen Dreamer each were convicted of a felony count of negligent misconduct of an elections employee. They also were convicted of one misdemeanor count each of failure of elections employees to perform their duty.

    Prosecutors accused Maiden and Dreamer of secretly reviewing preselected ballots before a public recount on Dec. 16, 2004. They worked behind closed doors for three days to pick ballots they knew would not cause discrepancies when checked by hand, prosecutors said.

    Defense attorney Roger Synenberg has said the workers were following procedures as they understood them.

    Ohio gave President Bush the electoral votes he needed to defeat Democratic Sen. John Kerry in the close election and hold on to the White House in 2004.

    Special prosecutor Kevin Baxter did not claim the workers' actions affected the outcome of the election - Kerry gained 17 votes and Bush lost six in the county's recount.

    Maiden and Dreamer, who still work for the elections board, face a possible sentence of six to 18 months for the felony conviction. Sentencing is on Feb. 26.

    A message left for Elections Board Director Michael Vu was not immediately returned Wednesday. The board released a statement that said its goal is to restore confidence in the county's election progress and pursue reforms in addition to those made since 2004.

    ***

    Of course, while the political affliation of the two election workers in unnamed, this is the hometown of Dennis Kucinich, so we can hazard a guess, which in turn would explain why this proof in a court of law of vote fraud in the 2004 presidential election recount didn't seem to make it onto Keith's radar.

    because the BILL was a minimum wage hike - while the AMENDMENT was a tax cut.
    ====================================================
    Well, good to see that neocons aren't the only ones who like to rationalize things. Of course, I don't really see any difference, would it make you happier if it the theoritical headline said "Seneate Democrats try to block amendment for small business tax cuts" ?

    The entire point, is that the event can be headlined several ways, many of which would be pro D or R depending upon the phrasing. Heck I think it should say "Democrats and Republicans work together to help workers and small businesses"

    anyone have an issue with that>

    Grim,

    If you don't see any difference, then I would imagine that, whenever congress votes themselves a raise by amendment, you'd have no trouble with that bit of trickery...

    here's another boner by our fearless leader Johnny Dollar:
    "Here's a "right-wing" source for you, the nonpartisan factcheck.org:"

    If you notice where fact check.org originates it's at the Annenberg Center on the Penn campus in Philadelphia, PA.
    It's a right wing (non) think tank.Not a non partisan fact check like Johnny Dollar assumes.

    I live a few minutes from this location and I know it's pretty much a laughing stock on campus.
    Funny how this "liberal" ivy league university has this right wing think tank on it's campus.
    The truth is that it is a diverse university.
    So much for the liberal bias we hear so much about.
    So just b/c an organization calls itself "fact check" doesn't mean it is "non partisan."

    Remember that the next time you come on here and use fact check for a source.

    Of course, while the political affliation of the two election workers in unnamed, this is the hometown of Dennis Kucinich, so we can hazard a guess, which in turn would explain why this proof in a court of law of vote fraud in the 2004 presidential election recount didn't seem to make it onto Keith's radar.
    ==================================================
    I want to add John, that again I say, the biggest fraud to voting is almost never technical, but always people based. (getting ineligibles to vote, getting someone to vote twice, keeping someone eligilbe from voting, etc)

    "Heck I think it should say "Democrats and Republicans work together to help workers and small businesses" anyone have an issue with that?"

    I don't have an issue with that, Grim. I would rather the minimum wage bill be a "clean" bill (no amendments), but a little horsetrading to get the job done works for me.

    To Professor Honeydew....

    I only am advertising the peace march so that you all will get the maximum number possible....I would like to revist the actual attendence numbers on Monday.

    The reason? Because all of the leftist posters claim there is 80% plus strong opposition to the escalation....I diasagree and the degree to which people try to change the policy says a lot about the strength of conviction. According to some of the hyperbole on this site, we should see one million plus tomorrow descend on DC....we will see.

    To the rest of the get out Iraq now crowd....

    General Petraeus, the new leader of The President's policy was just UNANIMOUSLY confirmed by the full Senate.....Why? Why did the anti-war D's and R's approve this war monger? (sarcasm)
    For goodness sakes, Petraeus claimed the pending nonbinding resolution will give COMFORT to the enemy....yet the same people behind the toothless statement support him? Again....words, words, words....NO ACTION.

    It's politcial CYA in The Senate...NOTHING HAS CHANGED! (Do you hear me laughing?) It was like the November election never happened....the escalation goes forth without a break.

    Have fun protesting, professor....What about you Rosie (Bushkill), Shaun, Sir Loin of Milquetoast?

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden


    If you don't see any difference, then I would imagine that, whenever congress votes themselves a raise by amendment, you'd have no trouble with that bit of trickery...
    ==================================================
    Ummmm.... I mention the need to look at the entirity of a bill (text and amendments all) and you claim I'd have a problem with trickery of "raise by amendment"? Are you trying to compliment or insult? Yeah, I don't like Congress just giving themselves raises (shouldn't that be the voters' job?), especially by amendment, so why would I be ok with it when it's EE and generic that JUST bring up the bill itself?

    I don't have an issue with that, Grim. I would rather the minimum wage bill be a "clean" bill (no amendments), but a little horsetrading to get the job done works for me.
    ==================================================
    Why EE?
    Every economist says that minimum wage hurts small businesses more than any other (and we're all in favor of small businesses right?). So if there's going to be the passage of a bill that could hurt them, why shouldn't it have some tweaks to it to soften the blow?

    Now if the amendment included pork... raises... we'd all be able to agree on hating that right?

    >>Every economist says that minimum wage hurts small businesses more than any other (and we're all in favor of small businesses right?).

    No. Minimum wage is good for small business, according to a study by the Fiscal Policy Institute:


    http://www.fiscalpolicy.org/minimumwageandsmallbusiness.pdf

    Well, I'm off to washington to the anti- Iraq war rally.
    I went in 1971 for the Vietnam War rallies and unfortunately there needs to be another one because of our demented current president's policies.

    Speakers at the rally will include the
    Iraq Veterans Against the War and Veterans for Peace.

    One of the musical groups performing is called the "Raging Grannies"

    No, couldn't be. Could Grammie be a part of this group?
    Afraid not, these grannies have their heart and soul in the right place.

    I'm not sure if Sgt Madden will be there, but I'll look for him.

    "Not one more of my brothers should die for a lie. This is my generation's call to conscience. We're not antiwar.We're not pacifists. We're anti-Iraq war."

    Sgt. Liam Madden and a host of servicemen vehemently opposing this war !

    Bob,

    Dress warmly. I froze my butt off, this morning...

    "So if there's going to be the passage of a bill that could hurt them, why shouldn't it have some tweaks to it to soften the blow?"

    Because too often those tweaks are used as "poison pills" to kill legislation (such as the attempts last session to link minimum wage increases to a permanent abolition of the estate tax). Rather than voting ouright against something, unscrupulous lawmakers (on both sides) will slip amendments that are so noxious to the other side that they'd rather kill the bill entirely than pass it with the attached amednments.

    Cee says: all of the leftist posters claim there is 80% plus strong opposition to the escalation....I diasagree .

    Of course, you disagree. It contradicts your closed mind set and you're pathetic support for the "worst foreign policy decision in our nation's history"
    cee thinks all of the polls and the election results are all wrong.
    How funny is that !

    "According to some of the hyperbole on this site, we should see one million plus tomorrow descend on DC....we will see."

    No one expects a million plus. And with the cold weather, I don't even expect a large turnout.

    That doesn't discount the millions who voted against George Bush and this war in Nov and the ones who will be staying home on Saturday watching their kids, or at work, cheering the anti-Iraq War protesters on.

    I'm outta here !


    "Not one more of my brothers should die for a lie. This is my generation's call to conscience. We're not antiwar.We're not pacifists. We're anti-Iraq war."

    Sgt. Liam Madden and a host of servicemen vehemently opposing this war !


    Why is it that this weekend's 'peace march' probably won't get the representative attendance that the peace activists would actually like?

    There's no mystery here.

    Too much of the country's population is far more concerned with "American Idol" and tripe like that than they are with anything that is actually important.

    Of course, that is exactly why we are stuck with an incompetent president in the first place?

    No. Minimum wage is good for small business, according to a study by the Fiscal Policy Institute:
    ====================================================

    There have been rebuttals generic:
    http://www.epionline.org/study_detail.cfm?sid=98
    "While the FPI study has been frequently cited by supporters of increases in the minimum wage, the study is based on faulty statistical methods, and its results provide an inaccurate picture of the effect of state-level minimum wage increases.
    ...
    These findings provide consistent evidence that minimum wage increases result in a significant decline in retail and small business employment. This finding is robust across several model specifications. Furthermore, these findings refute many of the claims raised in the FPI study so often cited in favor of minimum wage increases at the state and federal levels. The differences between these studies are likely a result of the more careful and appropriate methodological methods utilized in this study."

    There's also the small business & entrepreneurship council.
    http://www.sbecouncil.org/home/index.cfm?CFID=739721&CFTOKEN=96855356

    And then there's the law of unintended consequences...
    "Jacobe: A lot of the jobs that used to be minimum wage jobs have gone overseas, been offshored, so there isn't demand here for them. Some of these jobs have been taken by illegal immigrants who have little bargaining power and sometimes aren't even paid the minimum wage. And most businesses in America are already paying more than the minimum wage -- they have to, to attract workers. So there are very few minimum wage jobs at all in America."
    http://gmj.gallup.com/content/23590/2/A-Minimum-Wage-Hike-The-Real-Impact.aspx

    No. Minimum wage is good for small business, according to a study by the Fiscal Policy Institute:
    ===================================================
    There is a rebuttal to that (http://www.epionline.org/study_detail.cfm?sid=98).

    Also you should read this interview (http://gmj.gallup.com/content/23590/A-Minimum-Wage-Hike-The-Real-Impact.aspx), it's very informative.
    "GMJ: You've mentioned offshoring several times. Does having a national minimum wage directly encourage job offshoring?

    Jacobe: Probably. Probably. There's an example down in North Carolina where I live. Recently, Continental Tire in Charlotte told its workers, we're either going to shut down this plant, or you have to agree to lower wages, because labor is so much cheaper offshore, and we can't afford to pay the kind of union wages we do here. Now, they have decided to move virtually all their production overseas. Well in theory, the same thing applies to every U.S. business.

    So job offshoring clearly drives down wages in the United States; it's definitely a substitute for U.S. labor. And again, an economist would argue that's an efficient free market the consumers benefit from, and if it's cheaper for business to produce stuff in some other country, then that's fine. But that view only looks at the global economy and doesn't take into account social effects, social considerations. The fact is that job outsourcing overseas undercuts U.S. minimum wage laws."

    WASHINGTON -- President Bush, on a collision course with Congress over Iraq, said Friday "I'm the decision-maker" about sending more troops to the war. He challenged skeptical lawmakers not to prematurely condemn his buildup.

    And your decisions on Iraq have been so good, George.

    ------------------

    Man, what a drag.
    "I'm the Decider" changed got to "I'm the decision-maker".
    Some weak-kneed, hang-wringing, nuanced grammatist must have gotten to Bush.
    I miss the feckless "Bring 'em On" nitwit who didn't mind being his natural, nitwitted self.
    Who says Bush has been the ruin of this country?
    This country will be the ruin of him!

    E.E.

    Ma and Pa Hardware Store say thank you for that, and let me give Harry Reid and the senate props on this one.

    But I'm still a believer we there shouldn't be a minimum wage or a set wage. I was working in a small buissness back in the day. The Owner had three stores. I wanted to learn these things about small buissness. The union would come in and dictate the work rules, the pay, the benifits. And the union would also play the class warfair deal between the workers and the owner. He would show me the books. He would show me what was going out and comming in. The workers just thought I was a brownoser for wanting to be involed. When contract time came up, I saw the dog and pony show the union put on and this was a good owner!!!!

    Well it got to the point where he sold one store off, then the other two. The owner had no more freedom to move in the direction he wanted to go because the union could care less about him.

    The workers all laughed!!! They said the union would take care of them. Now I left after the first store closed. I knew what was commin'. But I was there when the Union was shakin' evrybody's hand on the last day of the last store closing and saying good luck in life and trying to pass it off on the so-called greedy owner. It wasn't the case! The Union made the sheep believe in one thing. And they would not listen to anybody else.

    The owner would have gone belly up, he just got out while he still had money left. The workers that listened to the Union got shafted. The Union could have cared less!!!!

    And it's not me, just go through the history of places that were very big, the Union was strong, but they made the buisnesss go belly up.

    A buissness will have good times and rough times, peaks and valleys. It's not all pie in the sky Union's great, yada yada yada!

    There are good people owning buissnesses. Okay theres a few skunks, but they don't last long. I say leave them alone!!! period!!!! If your good and the pay is crappy you can go up the ladder or market you're self for a better job. If you believe in youself anything is possible!!!!!!

    I drank the kool-aid of the union and then I stopped, got smart.

    I firmly believe this because I've seen it. The Union is for the slacker. And doesn't matter, if you get there after the slacker. No matter how much you bust you're ass. The slacker will always be ahead of you. So what do most people do? end up like the slacker because the hard worker can't be rewarded because the slacker is always in front of them. So the thought process comes in. Why bust you're ass? If there's overtime the slacker will always get it because he is ahead of you. Prime vacation time with your family? Nope because the slacker is always ahead of you. Starting to get the picture folks.

    Talk to anybody who was in Russia back in the day. The whole country was slackers. because no one had incentive!!!!!!!

    The good people will take care of the good people. I love it when I see people I mentor take things and start to move with them. Goverment is nothing but a giant anchor!!!!!!!!

    Pay hike, fine tax breaks, for sure.

    But leave it alone, For MA and PA's Hardwares sake.

    Oh by the way, With the wind chill it's five below today. Anybody know if Al Gore is in the Lehigh Valley?

    Grim,

    (from epinet.org)

    "Does the minimum wage cause job loss?
    A 1998 EPI study failed to find any systematic, significant job loss associated with the 1996-97 minimum wage increase. In fact, following the most recent increase in the minimum wage in 1996-97, the low-wage labor market performed better than it had in decades (e.g., lower unemployment rates, increased average hourly wages, increased family income, decreased poverty rates). Studies of the 1990-91 federal minimum wage increase, as well as to studies by David Card and Alan Krueger of several state minimum wage increases, also found no measurable negative impact on employment. Finally, a recent Fiscal Policy Institute (FPI) study of state minimum wages found no evidence of negative employment effects on small businesses.

    New economic models that look specifically at low-wage labor markets help explain why there is little evidence of job loss associated with minimum wage increases. These models recognize that employers may be able to absorb some of the costs of a wage increase through higher productivity, lower recruiting and training costs, decreased absenteeism, and increased worker morale..."

    Professor Honeydew says....

    "How funny is that !"

    I am finally going to answer that one....

    not very.

    Well, the depth of opposition IS important because many on this site claim George Bush is going against, "the will of the people." I beg to differ based on objective and observable facts.....

    And a poor turnout for a peace march is a valid marker.

    So stop the excuses anti-war people.....get out there and change the policy! Action, action, action, action! go go go!

    You joining him Mike? How about Rosie (Bushkill)? Still no answer from the unflappable Rosie....I wonder why?

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    Talk to anybody who was in Russia back in the day. The whole country was slackers. because no one had incentive!!!!!!!

    ----------

    Welfare State! Welfare State!
    Red Scare! Red Scare!
    Commies! Commies!

    same old slippery-slope bullshit -- different century.
    whether it's socialist slacker havens,
    or capitalist robber barons,
    the problem is gravitating to EXTREMES.

    a centrist, middle-way approach between the two is the answer.

    (which, of course, is a reasonable solution
    rejected by the extreme wings of both camps: left and right
    (on accounta they're extremists)).

    DRUDGE always keeps me informed.....

    The following is a link from Drudge/
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0107/2478.html

    "Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wis., has scheduled a hearing next Tuesday in his Judiciary Committee subcommittee to explore whether Congress has the authority to cut off funding for the U.S. military campaign in Iraq. The move comes as Congress prepares to vote on a congressional resolution opposing President Bush's escalation of the war.

    "Feingold, a fierce war critic, will force Democrats to consider an option many consider politically suicidal: denying funds to the military and U.S. soldiers to force a quicker end to the war. Democratic leaders have privately called on members to restrain from cutting off funding and focus on congressional resolutions condemning the Bush policy. The resolutions are nonbinding and therefore symbolic.

    "Republicans 'would like this debate to be as whether or not we are going to be cutting off money for the troops,' Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid recently told The Politico. 'The logical conclusion is that a lot of things can happen. But right now, the most important thing is to tell the president that what he has done with the escalation is wrong. And that's what we are doing, bi-partisanly.'"


    ###
    What a wimp Reid is.....THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WHAT?....I thought stopping the death in Iraq was important....It isn't?

    Yeah baby....I agree with Rangel on the draft AND Feingold on getting that funding cut....

    I am getting worried about this political debate!

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    My favorite Union story...

    My uncle is in a union and has a coworker who likes the sauce. They sent him out to pick up parts for a broken machine and he disappeared. 4 hours later he was picked up for DWI in the company truck because he ended up stopping for beers across the street from the warehouse (not the first time). They fired him. The union brought legal action. They settled with giving him 4 weeks WITH pay (he drank that whole month) and counseling. Hooray for unions. Bringing down auto makers for 20 years!


    ROCKEFELLER: CHENEY IMPEDED INVESTIGATION INTO FALSE PREWAR INTELLIGENCE

    -- Criminal Obstructionist Vice President Pressured CIA Analysts, Committee Chair --

    -- Praetorian Republo-Fascists Tickled With VP's Corrupt Subversions of Intel, Investigation, Rule of Law --

    WASHINGTON (McClatchyNews) -- Vice President Dick Cheney exerted "constant" pressure on the Republican former chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee to stall an investigation into the Bush administration's use of flawed intelligence on Iraq, the panel's Democratic chairman charged Thursday. In an interview with McClatchy Newspapers, Sen. Jay Rockefeller of West Virginia also accused President Bush of running an illegal program by ordering eavesdropping on Americans' international e-mails and telephone communications without court-issued warrants. In the 45-minute interview, Rockefeller said that it was "not hearsay" that Cheney, a leading proponent of invading Iraq, pushed Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., to drag out the probe of the administration's use of prewar intelligence. "It was just constant," Rockefeller said of Cheney's alleged interference.


    My favorite Union story...

    My uncle is in a union and has a coworker who likes the sauce. They sent him out to pick up parts for a broken machine and he disappeared. 4 hours later he was picked up for DWI in the company truck because he ended up stopping for beers across the street from the warehouse (not the first time). They fired him. The union brought legal action. They settled with giving him 4 weeks WITH pay (he drank that whole month) and counseling. Hooray for unions. Bringing down auto makers for 20 years!
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    I got a better one. This just happened in Iowa about three weeks ago. This lady was working for the Post office and was stealing money from the Union. 35,000 over 4 years. I feel compelled to reiterate that she was stealing from THE UNION. She was caught and fired but the union, yes, thats THE UNION, and yes the very one SHE STOLE FROM, went to bat for her and she got her job back. GOT IT BACK.

    I am not totally opposed to unions. But they forget that there purpose is to reach a deal that is fair, not to support workers at all costs. (and often at the exspence of the business.)


    You win bro!

    Praetorian Republo-Fascists Tickled With VP's Corrupt Subversions of Intel, Investigation, Rule of Law
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    Praetorian? Your an idiot. Guy watches a history channel special on the Roman empire and he feels like he's educated.

    The modern day praetorian would be the secret service, and they still not even close (they have played no role in politics.)

    You win bro!
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    Isn't that the most sickening thing you've ever heard? It would be one thing to steal from the post office (albeit a federal offense)and have the union back you, but to steal FROM THE UNION, and they still support her. YIKES!!

    anybody wanna fight? I'm bored.

    Take your pick. post a topic and i'll tell you why your wrong. (Doesn't matter what, i'll argue any point of view from either side of the aisle)

    Should we bomb the Iranian nuke sites? I'll take the counterpoint

    Better yet-
    better show? Family Guy or Simpsons or American Dad?

    Oh, how sweet. The Daily Kos community want everyone to write to Keith to wish him a Happy Birthday. Look at the ass-kissing, fawning comments posted here: http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/1/26/13581/4863

    If nothing else, the Keith Krazies provide plenty of entertainment and amusement.

    Brandon,

    The best line of that post at kos was....

    "AND [Olbermann's] responsible for the figurative castration of Bill O'Reilly. He truly is a savior to all."

    Wow...I was unaware such a figurative mutilation had taken place. The idea of Keith Olbermann emasculating Bill O'Reilly is pretty weird...almost oedipal.

    The nutroots is a strange and perverse place.

    I may e-mail Mr. Olbermann and congratulate him on him gelding BillO!

    cee
    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    Better yet-
    better show? Family Guy or Simpsons or American Dad?

    The answer is Futurama.

    Family Guy- funny, but is far too random to be called genious or even a great show. Basically, you could change all the characters and just throw in the same random jokes and it would be the same. i.e. "This is worse than that time..(insert random skit)".

    American Dad- I dont find it funny at all.

    Simpsons - I don't know exactly when, but this show just lost it. The last five seasons have been terrible.

    better show? Family Guy or Simpsons or American Dad?

    The answer is Futurama.

    Family Guy- funny, but is far too random to be called genious or even a great show. Basically, you could change all the characters and just throw in the same random jokes and it would be the same. i.e. "This is worse than that time..(insert random skit)".

    American Dad- I dont find it funny at all.

    Simpsons - I don't know exactly when, but this show just lost it. The last five seasons have been terrible.
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    I am behind you 100%. Especially on American Dad. Not because of it's politics (heck i find family guy funny) but just because it's such a study in how to ruin jokes, comedic timing, etc.

    Just for fun everyone. Earth temperature caused by the sun?
    http://pressesc.com/01169672696_

    Or rather, it posits that ice ages are caused by the sun's flucation. Which means we might need to build up a greenhouse around the earth to compensate for an upcoming 'cold snap'.

    lol
    Man, isn't the universe cool? =D

    Hey!

    When did olbermannwatch become "Jump The Shark?"

    "Which means we might need to build up a greenhouse around the earth to compensate for an upcoming 'cold snap'."

    More like our very, very, very, VERY distant descendants, since they're talking about something that happened 10,000 years ago and isn't expected to happen again for another 90,000 years yet. (Maybe by then someone will have invented weather controlling satellites.)

    But I do agree that the universe is cool. Cold if you head out into the void :)

    The military is lying AGAIN. this is why when you neo-nuts take as gospel what the military and Bush tell you, you are taken as fools !

    By STEVEN R. HURST and QASSIM ABDUL-ZAHRA, Associated Press Writers 11 minutes ago

    BAGHDAD, Iraq - In perhaps the boldest and most sophisticated attack in four years of warfare, gunmen speaking English, wearing U.S. military uniforms and carrying American weapons abducted four U.S. soldiers last week at the provincial headquarters in the Shiite holy city of Karbala and then shot them to death.
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    The U.S. military confirmed a report earlier Friday by The Associated Press that three of the soldiers were dead and one was mortally wounded with a gunshot to the head when they were found in a neighboring province, about 25 miles from the compound where they were captured. A fifth soldier was killed in the initial attack on the compound.

    The new account contradicted a U.S. military statement on Jan. 20, the day of the raid on an Iraqi governor's office, that five soldiers were killed "repelling" the attack.

    The security breakdown and the dramatic kidnapping and murder of four soldiers leaked out just as
    President Bush faces stiffening congressional opposition over his plan to flood Baghdad and surrounding regions with 21,500 more American troops. Two of Congress's most vocal war critics, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. John Murtha , were in the Iraqi capital as the news broke.

    Ever wonder what Bush would sound like if he wrote his OWN State of the Union Message.

    What?You nutcases thought he wrote his own speech ?

    If he did, this is what it would sound like:

    http://www.thefreedomtoast.com/index_blogads.asp


    The military is lying AGAIN. this is why when you neo-nuts take as gospel what the military and Bush tell you, you are taken as fools !
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    You're right, we should have known they were kidnapped. What fools are we. You probably knew the truth about what happened before it even happened.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gfZnWVoqZ8&mode=related&search=

    plug for what could be my new favorite movie.

    Based (quite loosely) on the single greatest example of human resolve in our history. MOLON LABE!!!

    What it lacks in accuracy, it makes up for in producing a kick-ass film worthy of the accomplishments of 300 spartans and their thebian allies.

    "No installment of Countdown would be complete without the opening spiel"

    And no post of yours would be complete without a demonstration of limited vocabulary.

    Looks like another distant third for Olbermann last night, but at least he got within 2.1 million viewers of eeeevil O'Reilly. He'll be closing that gap for good any hour now!

    O’Reilly Factor – 2,727,000 viewers (622,000)
    Paula Zahn– 576,000 viewers (149,000)
    Countdown w/ Olbermann – 697,000 viewers (293,000)
    Fast Money – 197,000 viewers (91,000)
    Nancy Grace – 750,000 viewers (329,000)

    Olbermann offers no new info. He's a lackey for Shrillery! If I were a Leftist I wouldn't give him legitimacy!

    Just to show how much on the wrong side of history "Mister" Olbermann is, when listening to his "Speshul Komments" . . .
    - If there were a "Countdown w/K.O." during the Revolutionary War, he would've come on the side of the Tories and belittled Washington's army every step of the way - and even named him "W.P.I.T.W." at the time he had mutineers hanged, just as an example.
    - During the War of 1812, I could imagine Krazy Keith likewise taking the side of the British against his own country.
    - In the Civil War, he would've sided with the Confederate / secessionist / pro-slavery forces, playing up every Confederate victory (i.e. Fredericksburg) and proclaiming that Union victories (such as Gettysburg) would make no difference in the direction of the war; he would've named Lincoln the "W.P.I.T.W." every day the show aired, and proclaimed the "Gettysburg Address" as every bit as much the failure as Lincoln himself, at the time, thought it was (if one saw "The Civil War" documentary 100 times).
    - In / after World War I, he would've raised a stink about the deportation of radical anarchists such as Emma Goldman and raised alarm bells about the "specter of fascism" descending upon America in 1920 . . .
    - If he and his show were around in World War II, he would've highlighted J. Edgar Hoover's initial reservations (for legal reasons) about Roosevelt's order to have Japanese-Americans interned, then he would've called the FBI director a "chicken" (or a lackey, or other words to that effect) when FDR overruled him and J.E.H. ended up implementing the internment policy anyway (never mind the parallel internment of German- and Italian-Americans); he would've attacked the "infringement" of the civil liberties of German-American saboteurs in the Yorkville section of Manhattan in the 1941-42 period; K.O. also would've called U.S. involvement in the Pacific in the early months a "quagmire" and urged an Allied pullout from the area (and I doubt the Midway victory would've made a difference in his thinking); ditto for the "Battle of the Bulge," he likely would've called for a pullout of Allied forces from Europe, which would've handed total victory to the Nazis. And of course, one wonders what his opinions would've been (at the time, of course, forget now) about the atomic bombs dropping on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I have an idea, but I'll let the more sensible of you fill in the blanks.

    In short, in such moments of history, Keith would very well have used his show as a platform to try to subvert and undermine such initiatives, not unlike what he and his fellow lib cohorts in the MSM are doing today. Given his particular interpretation of the Constitution as a "suicide pact" in times of national crisis and danger, for example. He may be third, fourth or fifth depending on what day of the week it is or other variables, but whatever audience he has, you also have to wonder about the future of this country . . .

    Furthermore, these so-called "anti-war" rallies are anything but. They are clearly anti-American and anti-military - and, in these times, border on being pro-terrorist. (Certainly, the presence of such fifth-column, Communist-affiliated outfits as ANSWER are a clue.) I have to concur with those who say that such marches (not to mention the "we don't support the troops" resolutions proposed by the "CAW"* Democrats) aid, abet and embolden the enemy. I recommend reading this piece to anyone listening to show what I mean:

    http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/JeffEmanuel/2007/01/27/a_reminder_from_al_qaeda_that_iraq_still_matters

    * CAW = Capitulation, Appeasement, Weakness