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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    January 30, 2007
    COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN - JANUARY 30, 2007

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • IRAQ TROOP ESCALATION: Jonathan Alter, Newsweek senior editor and MSNBC political analyst
    • EXECUTIVE ORDER ON REGULATORY POLICY: John Dean, fmr. Nixon White House counsel and author of "Conservatives Without Conscience"

    Yes, we have to say it: Oralmann bellowed the opening spiel, as he does every show. And tonight was no exception: Who is going to stop the war?!? Congress can do it!! Global Warming!!! The Great Leak Case!!!! Dramatic revelations about executive orders!!!!! Prevented attacks? More lies from "Mister" Bush!!!!!! Whew, it's exhausting just typing such hyperbolic spewer.

    MADMAN

    Nancy Pelosi (D) opposes the President's plan. Clip of NP. "Even" Adm Fallon warned not to get expectations too high. Clip. Negroponte said violence is increasing. The Judiciary Cmte wants to know how Congress can end a war. Clips of Arlan Specter ("R") saying President is not the sole decider, Dick Durbin (D), Russell Feingold (D), aka "The Statesman". Clips of lawmakers expressing support for sending reinforcements: zero. "Advocacy groups" (unnamed) say White House pressures people to downplay global warming. "A Congressman" (unnamed, and a D) says Negroponte was warned not to use the phrase (Blue Blog Source: Think Progress) based on something he overheard at a party. And KO bashes Insight for thin sourcing! Clip of Henry Waxman (D).

    Lefty Alter: "Oil lobbyists" run the White House policy. We're facing a "constitutional struggle" over Iraq. Republicans are unlikely to filibuster a non-binding resolution (we'll see about that one). Great thanks. Then Olby decreed the President "lied" about breaking up terror plots--a plug for his Speshul Education Comment. We can hardly wait.

    MADMAN

    Next on the propaganda-fest: The Great Leak Case. Judith Miller testifies, and Slippery Shuster gives the "highlights". In ShusterSpeak that means rattle off all the points made by the prosecution, but ignore the cross-examination (where Judith Miller admitted that she herself had forgot about the June 23 meeting when she testified earlier). It's important on OlbyPlanet to slant everything, even sworn testimony in a criminal trial. Great thanks.

    After more plugs for you know what, it was on to executive orders and the latest meeting of Olbermann's Criminal Rehabilitation Program. That's right, instead of getting someone involved in the new regulation procedures to explain them, Monkeymann brought in his favorite felon at large, John Dean. The disbarred lawyer was ready to serve up everything his Master ordered. Bush could block a cure for diseases that would cause "millions of people" to die. Olby brought up Nixon [Ding!]. Great thanks.

    Stonehedge (regurgitated NBC video), Lindsay Lohan, and the Media Matters Minute. Dick Morris got a nod (Blue Blog Source: Media Matters), because he said he believes the Obama leak came from the Clinton campaign. Of course on OlbyPlanet, that's just a "phony story" because the Clinton campaign denied it. Just like Bill's escapates with Ms Lewinsky were phony because he denied it, saying he "never had sex with that woman"? Why aren't the charges against Scooter Libby "phony"? He denied them. But on OlbyPlanet, denials by an (R) are meaningless, but denials by a (D) become instant gospel. Also noted: Bill "Orally", for comments on the Hornbeck case (Blue Blog Source: NewsHounds), and Bill again for "worst person". According to Olby, if you buy a copy of his book from him "he'll send a free copy" to the troops overseas. Actually that's Another Olbermann Lie. It's not Mr Bill who's doing that, it's the publishers of the book. Somehow this outraged Herr Olbermann, who apparently never heard the phrase "a portion of the proceeds go to charity". But then again, when you're "Man on Fan" Olbermann, charity begins at home.

    MADMAN

    Finally, the Speshul Education Komment, once again focusing on "Mister" Bush and the attacks he claims to have prevented as part of the war on terror [see APPENDIX] (Blue Blog Source: Let's Try Democracy, from a Kucinich staffer). As usual, all the theatrics were trotted out: "Misters" aplenty, a fistful of "insinSirs", eye rolling, head bobbing, and of course the carefully scripted camera pivots. Factual veracity? Look, it's cribbed from Dennis Kucinich's flack. Does Fat Ass now consider a PR man for the Elf Lord a source for unbiased news? Just take his dismissal of the "Library Tower" matter and remember what a real reporter, Brian Ross, had to say about it.

    OLBY

    Muted mongrels: Olby has cited the Fabulous Baker Boys Report over and over, at first to dismiss it as "all things to all people". But as soon as the eeevil "neocons" criticized it, he did a volte face and starting berating "Mister" Bush for not following it. Today the "Baker" in the Baker Commission testified that sending reinforcements to Iraq is a plan he thinks we should try, as he dissed the idea of passing a "nonbinding resolution". We're shocked--shocked!--that Edward R Olbermann spiked this major news. People involved in the Sandy Berger case are strangely being protected and rewarded. A life-sentence charge against Jose Padilla has been reinstated by a Federal appeals court. Venezuela is planning to get into air defense in a major way. An MSM reporter contradicts Ari Fleischer's testimony in The Great Leak Case. And don't forget Hillary Clinton's flip-flop. Finally, in the ongoing scrutiny of Naked Right-Wing Propaganda Masquerading as Entertainment, yesterday another episode of Sleeper Cell aired. Keith Olbermann did not object. Sleeper Cell is not on Fox.

    NAME

    Olbermann's book The book that bears Olberman's name stands at #5,029 at amazon.com, while "Culture Warrior" rose to #111. The OlbyTome is #2,615 at Barnes & Noble; O'Reilly's book is #390 there, and is in its 17th week on the New York Times bestsellers list. On Monday, the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann lost to Mr Bill O'Reilly by nearly five to one, and narrowly avoided a loss to Paula Zahn to eke out a tenuous second-place finish, both in total viewers and in the critical, beloved, all-important, coveted "key demo". Tonight's MisterMeter reading: 11 [DANGER!]

    APPENDIX: Keith's Speshul Education Komment:

    West Yorkshire in England has a new chief police constable.

    Upon his appointment, Sir Norman Bettison made one of the strangest comments of the year:

    "The threat of terrorism," he says, "is lurking out there like ‘Jaws 2.'"

    Sir Norman did not exactly mine the richest ore for his analogy of warning. A critic once said of the flopping sequel to the classic film: "You're gonna need a better screenplay."

    But this obscure British police official has reminded us that terrorism is still being sold to the public in that country -- and in this -- as if it were a thrilling horror movie and we were the naughty teenagers about to be its victims.

    And it underscores the fact that President Bush took this tack, exactly a week ago tonight, in his terror-related passage in the State of the Union.

    A passage that was almost lost amid all the talk about Iraq and health care and bipartisanship and the fellow who saved the stranger from an oncoming subway train in New York City.

    But a passage ludicrous and deceitful. Frightening in its hollow conviction. Frightening, in that the president who spoke it tried for "Jaws" but got "Jaws 2."

    I am indebted to David Swanson, press secretary for Dennis Kucinich's 2004 presidential campaign, who has blogged about the dubious 96 words in Mr. Bush's address this year and who has concluded that of the four counter-terror claims the president made, he went 0-for-4.

    [Direction: look downward at imaginary notes]

    "We cannot know the full extent of the attacks that we and our allies have prevented," Mr. Bush noted, "but here is some of what we do know: We stopped an al-Qaida plot to fly a hijacked airplane into the tallest building on the West Coast."

    [Direction: PIVOT!]

    This would, of course, sir, be the purported plot to knock down the 73-story building in Los Angeles, the one once known as the Library Tower -- the one you personally revealed so breathlessly a year ago next month.

    It was embarrassing enough that you mistakenly referred to the structure as the "Liberty Tower."

    But within hours it was also revealed that authorities in Los Angeles had had no idea you were going to make any of the details -- whether serious or fanciful -- public.

    Who terrorized Southern California that day, Mr. Bush?

    [Direction: PIVOT!]

    A year ago next month, the Los Angeles Times quoted a source --

    [Direction: look downward at imaginary notes]

    -- identified only by the labyrinthine description "a U.S. official familiar with the operational aspects of the war on terrorism" -- who insisted that the purported "Library Tower plot" was one of many al-Qaida operations that had not gotten very far past the conceptual stage.

    The former staff director of counter-terrorism for the National Security Council -- now a news analyst for NBC News and MSNBC -- Roger Cressey, puts it a little more bluntly.

    In our conversation, he put the "Library Tower story" into a category he called the "What-Ifs" -- as in the old "Saturday Night Live sketches that tested the range of comic absurdity:

    What if ... Superman had worked for the Nazis?

    What if ... Spartacus had had a Piper Cub during the battle against the Romans in 70 B.C.?

    More ominously, the L.A. Times source who debunked the Library Tower story said that those who could correctly measure the flimsiness of the scheme --

    [Direction: look downward at imaginary notes]

    --"feared political retaliation for providing a different characterization of the plan than that of the president."

    [Direction: PIVOT!]

    But Mr. Bush, you're the decider.

    And you decided that the Library Tower story should be scored as one for you.

    And you continued with a second dubious claim of counter-terror success. "We broke up a Southeast Asian terror cell grooming operatives for attacks inside the United States," you said.

    Well, sir, you've apparently stumped the intelligence community completely with this one.

    In his article, Mr. Swanson suggests that in the last week there has been no reporting even hinting at what exactly you were talking about.

    He hypothesizes that either you were claiming credit for a ring broken up in 1995 or that this was just the Library Tower story "by another name."

    Another CIA source suggests to NBC News that since the Southeast Asian cell dreamed of a series of attacks on the same day, you declared the Library Tower one threat thwarted, and all their other ideas, a second threat thwarted.

    Our colleague Mr. Cressey sums it up:

    This "Southeast Asian cell" was indeed the tale of the Library Tower, simply repeated.

    Repeated, Mr. Bush, in consecutive sentences in the State of the Union -- in your constitutionally mandated status report on the condition and safety of the nation.

    You showed us the same baby twice and claimed it was twins.

    And then you said that was two for you.

    Your third claim, sir, read thusly:

    [Direction: look downward at imaginary notes]

    "We uncovered an al-Qaida cell developing anthrax to be used in attacks against America."

    [Direction: PIVOT!]

    Again, the professionals in counter-intelligence were startled to hear about this.

    Last fall, two Washington Post articles cited sources in the FBI and other governmental agencies who said that hopes by foreign terrorists to use anthrax in this country were fanciful at best, farcical at worst.

    And every effort to link the 2001 anthrax mailings in this country to foreign sources has also struck out. The entire investigation is barely still active.

    Mr. Cressey goes a little further. Anything that might even resemble an al-Qaida cell "developing anthrax," he says, was in the "dreaming" stages.

    He used as a parallel those pathetic arrests outside Miami last year in which a few men wound up getting charged as terrorists because they couldn't tell the difference between an al-Qaida operative and an FBI informant.

    Their "ringleader" seemed to be much more interested in getting his "terrorist masters" to buy him a new car than in actually terrorizing anybody.

    That's three for you, Mr. Bush.

    [Direction: look downward at imaginary notes]

    "And just last August," you concluded, "British authorities uncovered a plot to blow up passenger planes bound for America over the Atlantic Ocean."

    In a series of dramatic raids, 24 men were arrested.

    Turned out, sir, a few of them actually had gone on the Internets to check out some flight schedules.  

    Turned out, sir, only a few of them actually had the passports needed to even get on the planes.

    [Direction: PIVOT!]

    The plot to which President Bush referred was a plot without bombs.

    It was a plot without any indication that the essence of the operation -- the in-flight mixing of volatile chemicals carried on board in sports drink bottles -- was even doable by amateurs or professional chemists.

    It was a plot even without sufficient probable cause.

    A third of the 24 arrested that day -- exactly 90 days before the American midterm elections -- have since been released.

    The British had been watching those men for a year.

    Before the week was out, their first statement, that the plot was "ready to go, in days," had been rendered inoperative.

    British officials told NBC News of the lack of passports and plans; told us that they had wanted to keep the suspects under surveillance for at least another week.

    Even an American official confirmed to NBC's investigative unit that there was "disagreement over the timing."

    The British then went further. Sources inside their government told the English newspaper the Guardian that the raids had occurred only because the Pakistanis had arrested a man named Rasheed Raouf.

    That Raouf had been arrested by Pakistan only because we had threatened to do it for them.

    That the British had acted only because our government was willing -- to quote that newspaper, The Guardian -- to "ride roughshod" over the plans of British intelligence.

    Oh, by the way, Mr. Bush, an anti-terrorism court in Pakistan reduced the charges against Mr. Raouf to possession of bomb-making materials and being there without proper documents.

    Still, sir -- evidently, that's close enough.

    Score four for you!

    Your totally black-and-white conclusions in the State of the Union were based on one gray area, and on three palettes on which the experts can't even see smudge, let alone gray.

    It would all be laughable, Mr. Bush, were you not the president of the United States.

    It would all be political hyperbole, Mr. Bush, if you had not, on this kind of "intelligence," taken us to war, now sought to escalate [Ding!] that war, and are threatening new war in Iran and maybe even elsewhere.

    What you gave us a week ago tonight, sir, was not intelligence, but rather a walk-through of how speculation and innuendo, guesswork and paranoia, daydreaming and fear-mongering, combine in your mind and the minds of your government, into proof of your derring-do and your success against the terrorists.

    The ones who didn't have anthrax.

    The ones who didn't have plane tickets or passports.

    The ones who didn't have any clue, let alone any plots.

    But they go now into our history books as the four terror schemes you've interrupted since 9/11.

    They go into the collective consciousness as firm evidence of your diligence, of the necessity of your ham-handed treatment of our liberties, of the unavoidability of the 3,075 Americans dead in Iraq.

    Congratulations, sir.

    You are the hero of "Jaws 2."

    You have kept the Piper Cub out of the hands of Spartacus.


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    267 Comments

    What, no Wolffman tonight? Are he and Olby having a spat?

    Some day a conservative will say something that is worthy of attention... However, I will not hold my breath.

    I've got NINE in the obermannwatch pool camera twists!!!!!!

    The Olbsession continues. BOR gets two nods in WPITW.

    Olby, no soldier wants your book. No one wants your book. I can't believe Olby is still trying to shill his crappy book.

    Correction: No one wants the crappy book that bears your name, Olby.

    "I've got NINE in the obermannwatch pool camera twists!!!!!!"

    Okay, I'll up that and say 12.

    Plus, at the end, he sets his hair on fire.

    I'm rolling the dice; no guts, no glory.

    Gee do I watch "Krazy Komments"? Or Julie Banderas and Kiran Chetry on O'Reilly.

    Thats a no brainer!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Oralmann is obsessed with O'Reilly. I would love to watch O'Reilly do keith's mother right in front of him. f--- YOU OLBERMAN.

    I would love to see a soldier come back from Iraq and shoot Orally in his melon. That would be a nice payback by a real American hero

    Why not just call the show Special Comments and have an hour of whining? I couldn't even follow the O'Reilly book rant...

    "I would love to see a soldier come back from Iraq and shoot Orally in his melon."

    Geez Olielly. What's with the advocacy of violence all the time?

    Every post of yours is about you wishing that somebody gets shot or killed or maimed.

    Even if you were first kidding, at this point it's not really healthy.

    OlbysMammy: "I would love to watch O'Relly do Keith's mother right in front of him. f--- YOU OLBERMANN".

    It's good to see O'Reilly fans showing such high levels of sophistication!

    This show already is an hour of Olby's whining and complaining.

    When Olby uses a Dennis Kucinich's staffer as a source and starts quoting ancient Saturday Night Live sketches, you know that his Speshul Komment cannot be taken seriously. He definitely is pulling this latest delusional episode out of his fat butt. As usual.

    If someone had killed Hitler before he offed himself millions of people would still be alive.

    "If someone had killed Hitler before he offed himself millions of people would still be alive."

    And Bill O'Reilly is OUR generation's Hitler?

    Huh?

    O'Lielly's been hitting the pipe again.

    Gee Mike Nothing to say about O'Lielly?

    I mean your so fair and balanced!!

    Yeah, Olby - just like the fake anthrax that some jerk sent you. You were scared, weren't you. What a loser and a hypocrite you are, Olby.

    HAHAHAHA Keith says the plane plot was BS because the terrorists didn't have their plane tickets yet!

    O'Leilly,

    Churchill wanted to but the Dingbat Patrol of his day said "Give peace a chance, you War Monger". He was right, they were dingbats.

    No Puck, I'd rather talk about you. Your posts are so much more funny than his.

    What...you say they were'nt meant to by comedy?

    Sorry!

    Olby gives Bill worst person twice.

    ...He might have thought that such a Trumpian response had won him the day. Instead, he looked like the self-absorbed athletes and team owners he is often driven to lampoon......
    Mushnick


    29 days to go!!!!!!!!!!

    Tell us Puck; What do you think is going to happen in 29 days?

    "Of course on OlbyPlanet, that's just a "phony story" because the Clinton campaign denied it."- J$

    No Johnny, it's a phony story because there is no evidence to support it. Just like Dan Rather's story on Bush skipping out on his service in The Guard.

    go ahead O'lielly PLEASE hold you breath! for about 4 hours or until you either croak or get some sense in the fag brain of yours. I find it incomprehensible how someonr as ignorant and immature as O'lielly could even feed him(her-it??) self. You are actually dumb enough O'leilly that I suspect you are the Olberdumbass himself. You seem obsessed with a real news reporter like Bill O'reilly.
    but back to the original issue- hold you breath O'leilly you flaming leftard and do the world and us a big favor. Having your small brain oxygen starved migh do you some good.

    "get some sense in the FAG brain of yours"
    -Posted by: at January 30, 2007 9:11 PM

    You can always count on the Olbyhaters to bring out some good ole bigotry.

    "A real news reporter like Bill O'Reilly"...

    And the laughs keep coming.

    This board rivals the comedy channel!

    > it's a phony story because there is no evidence to support it

    You're wrong. There is evidence. A published report that sources it to the Clinton campaign. You may not believe the evidence, but it's still evidence. And just like Olby, you have no idea if the Clintons leaked it or not. So the story isn't a "lie" or "phony" just because a Clinton flack denied it. It's DISPUTED. Get the difference? If so, explain it to Fat Ass Olbermann.

    Elf Lord. LOL, J$. That describes Dennis perfectly.

    I would love to see O'Reilly show up at olbermans office and cave his f---ing face in in front of his whole staff.

    J$-

    Yeah, I got it, it's one of those friend of a friends sister cousin sources. Site it!

    "that doesn't make the story a "lie" because you don't know who leaked it"

    Again, I'll revert back to Bush skipping out on his service. There was no concrete evidence that he did go AWOL, but if I was using your logic I'll just assume that he did lay around drunk in Texas (or Connecticut, since that's where he's from) instead of reporting for duty.

    "I would love to see O'Reilly show up at Olbermanns office and cave his f---ing face in in front of his whole staff"

    And the O'Reilly fans continue to show how intelligent and sophisticated they are!

    Friday's Numbers (25-54) from ICN 1-26-07

    O'Reilly-(405,000)

    Zahn-----(241,000)

    Grace----(216,000)

    Olby-----(197,000)

    Remember when the Olby fanatics use to crow about the all important (25-54) Demo???????

    Puck: Since you like citing ratings:

    Monday's numbers (25 - 54):

    Olby -230,000
    Zahn -217,000
    grace-176,000

    Source: Inside Cable news. You'll find them right above the story about how KO's show has soundly beat CNN for the entire month of January and is up 78% from a year ago.

    Damm! only five camera twists?

    Damm! I had NINE twists in the pool!

    What was the over/under Johnny?

    Mike you forgot to put O'Reilly in!!!!!!

    Oh Mike where's that fair and balanced now!!!!!

    It could have been nine, but I didn't count the ones where he changed camera during B-roll, because you couldn't see the actual on-screen PIVOT!

    I listened to the Dick Morris comment in question. He does not report it as fact, but states that he believes that the Clinton campaign was behind the Obama revelation, largely because it was their way of doing things.

    Who would better know than Morris since he worked for the Clintons?

    Olbys response was a personal attack on Morris. Great rebuttal...not.

    That's it! I'm throwing a flag on the field! I want an official ruling!!!!

    By the way Mike, does 667,000 mean anything?

    Meltdown has me laughing real hard
    Legal expert's a lawyer disbarred
    It's felon John Dean
    Almost as obscene
    As the host with ass made of lard

    A year ago next month, the Los Angeles Times quoted a source ---- identified only by the labyrinthine description "a U.S. official familiar with the operational aspects of the war on terrorism" -- who insisted that the purported "Library Tower plot" was one of many al-Qaida operations that had not gotten very far past the conceptual stage.

    Zacarias Moussaoui. If only he was caught in the conceptual stages. I do forget the FBI (Rowley) did catch him in the early stages. Thank goodness law enforcement may have learned from past mistakes and really take the "conceptual stage" seriously.

    Puck: I was just following your lead. You didn't mention Billo either!

    "Finally, in the ongoing scrutiny of Naked Right-Wing Propaganda Masquerading as Entertainment, yesterday another episode of Sleeper Cell aired. Keith Olbermann did not object. Sleeper Cell is not on Fox."

    Sleeper Cell is on Showtime - which MAYBE has 13 million subscribers nationwide. So what the HELL are you talking about? First it was CABLE RERUNS, now PREMIUM CHANNELS...what's next, sir? Webcasts? Radio plays? Episodes of "Robotech" (those Zentraedi bastards are just waiting...)?

    Sorry Puck, I guess you DID mention O'Reilly! Now how could I have missed that?

    Now, speaking of comparing apples to tomatoes, why don't you go and see if you can find the ratings for the American Idol freak show and compare O'Reilly's ratings to that.

    > Episodes of "Robotech" (those Zentraedi bastards are just waiting...)?

    Excellent! I hadn't thought of that. I'll keep an eye out to use it when available. Anything to expose the absurdity of Olbermann's fevered fanaticism by illustrating its vapidity.

    "Anything to expose the absurdity of Olbermann's fevered fanaticism by illustrating its vapidity."

    More like anything to make your point relevant LONG after everyone else has moved along.

    Johnny: Just like Oby Wan Kenobe in first Star Wars movie, the more you "expose the absurdity of olbermann's fevered fanaticism", the more powerfull he becomes.

    Don't you feel like your just spinning your wheels at times?

    Will this State of the Union news ever end ?!?

    I tuned into Teheran Keith's Special rant for a laugh. It was hysterical! His eyes were watery and his face was red. At least he wasn't shaking! I wonder if his hair will get greyer and more balding after this! I wonder if he'll have a heart attack or nervous breakdown, live on TV! That would be funny!

    SOTU news is becoming a little bit boring ...

    Millenium plot. What sage of planning was this in??

    stage

    Mike said: "KO's show has soundly beat CNN for the entire month of January and is up 78% from a year ago."

    If you sweep the floor for $1 an hour, and I give you a raise to $2 an hour- that would be a 100% increase... but it still doesn't mean shit.

    Just like Olbertard's "Ratings Increases".
    He still comes in D E A D L A S T.
    Every night.
    Every week.
    Every month.
    Every year.

    F O R E V E R .

    Obama Rama: I am sorry that not everybody can generate enough propaganda to make 2 million viewers like Bill O' Reilly can.

    Nameless: Do not feel too bad. I don't know what a "Piper Cub" is (and how that is supposed to be an insult.

    ee

    so...ratings matters for keith to rant about a fictional show?

    No Name said: "Millenium plot. What stage of planning was this in??"

    I dunno... what "stage" of planning were the 9/11 hi-jackers in when they were taking flying lessons? Early stage? But we couldn't arrest some poor muslums for simply taking flying lessons, could we?

    Of course, they didn't want to learn how to land...

    So your definition of 'D E A D L A S T' is beating CNN on average for an entire month?

    Silly analogy too! I wouldn't be sweeping the floor for $1 an hour, or $2. Come to think of it, I wouldn't be sweeping someone else's floor for ANY price.

    President Bush breaks up terror plots, and Keith goes nuts. I can't really understand that. Keith also loves to blast President Bush's uses of Executive Orders. I guess President Bush is the only President ever to sign Executive Orders. Just like the only President ever to use the Line Item Veto was Jefferson Davis. When in fact President Clinton was given Line Item Veto Power by a Republican Controlled Congress just a few years ago.

    Keith also likes to go on about how the President is trying to take away American's Free Speech. But does Keith report about how members of Congress are trying to pass a bill that would limit American's Free Speech? No he does not. Because the bill is being sponsored by Democrats. Democrats such as Dennis Kucinich, who was on tv tonight advocating for the bill. The same Dennis Kucinich that Keith used for his source on his latest "Special Comment".

    Bill O'Reilly is the "Worst Person in the World" because he is sending a free copy of his book to our troops in Iraq? Okay. According to Keith, you can purchase two copies of "Culture Warrior" on Amazon for a lower price than on Bill's website, and still have a dollar left over. If you wanted to purchase two copies of "Culture Warrior" on Amazon so that you can send a copy to our troops in Iraq, that would cost you $31.20. On Bill's website, you would only pay $26.00. A savings of $5.20. Either Keith can't add, or he is lying. This would not be the first time this dilema has come up. Keith reported that 655,000 Iraqi Civilians have died in Iraq. A figure that is atleast six times the United Nations highest estimates.

    OWUB said: "generate enough propaganda..."

    Let's look at tonight's shows:
    Olby- Bush Basher, followed by Bush Hater, then close with an Anti-Bush Rant.

    BOR- Debate with Charlie Rangel (D), Story on Hillary Clinton Protest at her offices by Code Pink, additional stories on a variety of topics... with- (get this) OPPOSING VIEWPOINTS!!!

    Now, tell me again, WHO's got nothing but "propaganda"?

    This website says that Olbermann does not complain about shows that are not on Fox. The fact is, Olbermann did not complain about American Idol when he was talking about that show. That munipulatorof amateurs, that cesspool of talent, that program that only makes fools of peolpe including the home audience and calls it "entertainment".

    Obama Rama: It is all propaganda. Did I say that I liked Charles Wrangel?!? I will take that back.

    What a wonderful Special Comment, and what a great service! If only we had Mr. Olbermann from the start of this horrendous Administration. A subservient and muzzled media is at long last freed to tell us the truth. And, as usual, the truth is so much more powerful than lies. Can you imagine what would have happened if Dubya had been challenged on each of the blatant lies he told during his governorship of Texas and throughout his Administration? Of course, each report would have been an epic saga, but Dubya might well not have ever been appointed president by the Supreme Court. He certainly never would have been elected in 2004. If the media had done its job, perhaps no 9/11 and certainly no invasion and occupation of Iraq. If Mr. Olbermann never does another thing in his career, at least he gave his legitimate media colleagues some backbone while rendering his illegitimate colleagues at FIX News a shrill eunuch chorus.

    My question is; How many of the Troops actually want to read "Culture Warrier"?

    Billo, why don't you send them something they can actually use if you are going to shamelessly exploit them in the name of book sales?

    If Mr. Olbermann never does another thing in his career, at least he gave his legitimate media colleagues some backbone while rendering his illegitimate colleagues at FIX News a shrill eunuch chorus.


    Wow Man, ..... That's deep.

    Mike: They could use extra toilet papaer.

    James, thanks for checking out the book prices. I was most remiss in not doing so myself. You have identified Another Olbermann Lie and that makes you an official clear-thinker.

    Billo, why don't you send them something they can actually use if you are going to shamelessly exploit them in the name of book sales?

    Posted by: Mike at January 30, 2007 10:09 PM

    How do you know he does not donate all the proceeds from his book to charity? Besides being a shallow left wing douche bag, are you also BOR's tax accountant?

    James:

    You listen to Johnny now. He's the chief "clear thinker'...and he knows!

    I think you finally understand; To be an official Olbermannwatch "clear thinker", you have to expose Olbermann's 'lies'. Nobody else's lies count.

    This site is against Olbermann. Mike: You do not get awarded the tag.

    OWUB said: "This site is against Olbermann. Mike: You do not get awarded the tag."

    This is the most clear-thinking thing you've every posted!

    They do not even show the tag that you have received from pleasing the site holder anymore.

    Anon 10:14: "how do you know he does not donate all the proceeds to charity?"

    I don't, do you?. But I'm convinced if he did, he'd be sure to let us all know about it! You might want to suggest it. That way he could shamelessly drive up book sales even further in the name of charity.

    And then that mean old Anon called me "a shallow left wing douche bag"....Oh, boo hoo!...now you've gone and hurt my feelings!

    Now would your shameless hero O'Reilly, approve of such gutter talk, or did you read that phrase in "Culture Warrier"?

    K Obermann is a traitor against the US of America for saying that Pres Bush is a liar & a traitor is someone who gives aid & comfort to the enemy of his own country during the time of the war & he hurts his country intentionally when he do does it & traitors are hung cause they hurt there countries in time of the war & he should be hung for calling Pres Bush a liar & such & hurting his country. Hes the enemy him self. Why cant he just say that people dont always see the same things the same ways & let it go & just accept the facts & the truth even if there against his on political believes is what I say. Theirs not a thing wrong in admitting youre wrong but there is so much wrong in saying that Pres Bush is a liar & I wont him to stop saying Pres Bush is a liar RIGHT NOW & to apologize to Pres Bush & to the US of America but I guess hed never do that cause hes a traitor & a creep but being a traitor is worse.

    Hey, Mike (AKA: shallow left-wing douchebag)- Billo donates a percentage of all the profits from his website to a variety of charities... How much (and from where?) does your hero/zero Olbytard give?

    I can't believe Olby is still trying to shill his crappy book.

    Posted by: at January 30, 2007 8:48 PM

    -------------------------------------------------

    O'Reilly's book is #390 there, and is in its 17th week on the New York Times bestsellers list.

    "": It depends on the definition of "crappy".

    Here are some of the charities that BOR.com donates to:

    HABITAT FOR HUMANITY - NYC
    Habitat for Humanity NYC is one of more than 1,500 United States affiliates of Habitat for Humanity International, an ecumenical, Christian housing ministry that seeks to eliminate poverty housing from the world. "This affiliate was created in 1984 when New York City was selected as the site of the first Jimmy Carter Work Project and currently builds in the Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan and Queens." Habitat for Humanity rehabilitates simple, decent homes, sells them to partner families at no profit, and helps families to finance the homes with affordable, no-interest loans. Instead of a financial down payment, homeowners invest hundreds of sweat equity hours of volunteer labor on their own homes and homes of other family partners. The homeowners' monthly mortgage payments are recycled into a revolving Fund for Humanity that is used to build more homes.
    Habitat welcomes individuals of all faiths to participate in its mission. There is no discrimination based on religion, race, gender or age for any activities associated with this program.

    Visit their website, read about their mission, make a donation, or volunteer.


    FAMILIES OF MILITARY CASUALTIES
    If you would like to contribute to Military Relief Societies that help families whose loved ones were injured or killed in battle, please contact one of the following:
    Army Emergency Relief . Navy/Marine Relief Society . Air Force Aid Society . Coast Guard Mutual Assistance .


    THE HAITIAN HEALTH FOUNDATION
    The Haitian Health Foundation is a registered charity that aims to improve the lives of the poor and infirm in the greater Jeremie area of Haiti with a focus on women and children.
    They offer a variety of services including safe motherhood services, self-help programs, outpatient clinics, public outreach programs and also responding to emergencies and crises with humanitarian relief.
    If you would like to learn more about the work they do or to make a donation, please visit their website .


    FATHER JOE'S VILLAGES
    Father Joe's Villages is one of America's most highly respected charities working to break the cycle of homelessness.
    Based in San Diego, it started out as a simple soup kitchen and has now evolved to a national model for getting people back on their feet again.
    Bill gives actively to this charity because it really helps homeless people help themselves. Visit their website .


    RIDE TO THE WALL
    Ride To The Wall is a non-profit foundation making funds available to various approved veteran's outreach programs. A majority of their efforts are directed towards those involved in the Vietnam war.
    If you would like to donate, please contact:
    Ride To The Wall
    P.O. Box 1277 Boise, ID 83701
    You can also visit their website .


    BEST FRIENDS FOUNDATION
    The Best Friends Foundation promotes the well-being of adolescent girls and the prevention of teenage pregnancy by encouraging positive alternatives to premature sexual activity and illicit drug or alcohol use.
    If you would like to donate, please contact:
    The Best Friends Foundation 4455 Connecticut Avenue, NW Suite 310 Washington, DC 20008 You can call them at (202) 237-8156.
    You can also visit their website .


    ELEVATE HOPE FOUNDATION
    Elevate Hope Foundation (EHF), which pop star Sheila E. helped to organize, is dedicated to provide abused and abandoned children an alternative method of therapy through music and the arts, and funding special services and programs that assist the needs of these children using these fundamental methods. You can read about their mission here and offer support here.


    CANDLES MUSEUM
    The C.A.N.D.L.E.S. Holocaust Museum is dedicated to the children of the Holocaust and those subjected to the experiments of Dr. Joseph Mengele. You can also visit their website and offer support by clicking here.


    THE COLUMBAN FATHERS
    The Missionary Society of St. Columban, approved by the Holy See in 1918, is an international missionary organization sent by the Catholic Church. Today, the Society's mission is to:
    Cross boundaries of country, language and culture to establish the Church among peoples who have not heard the Gospel.
    Help churches mature until they are able to evangelize their own people.
    Promote dialogue between Christians and those of other religions.

    --What a "Right-Wing Fanatic", huh, Mike?


    Billo donates a percentage of all the profits from his website to a variety of charities...
    ---
    His legal defense fund and Freddy's Falafel Corner do not count as charities.

    Mike, the site is called OLBERMANNwatch whose lies do you think it was meant to expose? Yours?

    Kunt Kissass said: "His legal defense fund and Freddy's Falafel Corner do not count as charities."

    Nice.
    Good, tolerant, LIBERAL.

    Could we keep the conversation, at worst, PG rated please?

    Jeepers Obama-Rama, my 'hero' forgot to give me that information. He should have learned from your hero O'Reilly that he should tell everybody he can tell about stuff like that, so everybody will know what a really 'good' fella he is.

    Sorry, Rico- My Bad...
    But, just for clarification, does "PG" include only dirty words, or graphic descriptions of violent murder (ala O'Liely) like the posts of Olbertard's supporters?
    Just checking

    New ventures

    Olbermann was instrumental in the launches of ESPN Radio and ESPN2. He christened the programming on ESPN2, promoted as the younger, hipper ESPN, with the remark "Welcome to the end of our careers."

    -http://keitholbermann.org

    That, as we know, is more important to the average American than all of those charities combined.

    Oh dear, Brandon! Am I deviating from the official character assasination mission of this site again?

    Darn it, I just can't get my mind right, can I!

    No problem, Mike- that's what happens when you only read Media Matters, Daily KOS, MoveOn, and watch only MSLSD...

    & The Nation.

    Anonymous said:
    "so...ratings matters for keith to rant about a fictional show?"

    Well, maybe if Johnny wouldn't pick shows that 90% of the country can't see because they don't get the channel, that would be a start.

    How can I make an argument when I haven't seen the show? I don't get Showtime because it's not offered as part of my cable company's package and I can't get satellite. How do I know Johnny's description is accurate?

    James said:
    "When in fact President Clinton was given Line Item Veto Power by a Republican Controlled Congress just a few years ago."

    And the Supreme Court declared it unconstitutional. So why does the President think he's gonna get it now.

    And Rudy...fer God's sake get a spell checker man! I'm getting eye strain trying to make sense of your scribblings.

    O. R.,

    O'Leilly is a very bad boy who should spend more time on his homework if he wants to make it to 10th grade next year. But he would rather throw turds at this site.

    I admit that I have crossed the line once or twice to "R" rated territory but I now regret it. Let us use our "best judgement".

    Tolerance of intolerance is self-destructive and fool-hardy, Herr Rama.

    I should also add that your German ethnic slurs and your coarse language do no service to those who you praise. They do inform us of your character or the abyssmal lack thereof, however.

    And then that mean old Anon called me "a shallow left wing douche bag"....Oh, boo hoo!...now you've gone and hurt my feelings!

    Now would your shameless hero O'Reilly, approve of such gutter talk, or did you read that phrase in "Culture Warrier"?

    Quite frankly, I could care less about BOR. My fascination is how former jock sniffer has become the Pied Piper of you and the rest of the left wing whack jobs. The special comment thread is up at C&L, shouldn’t you be joining the them in the adoring KO circle jerk?

    Actually Obama-Rama-bama, I know your going to think I'm a liar, but I don't go to any of those sites (I've been to 2 of them exactly one time each...months ago). They didn't seem to be as funny as this one!

    As far as 'MSLSD', I don't even know what that one is.

    obama watch, hows anarchy working out for you. I swear, ever since i read that i see you for the pathetic red beret wearing college preppie you are.

    "What's so bad about anarchy?" derrrrr.

    Rico: Fair enough :)

    K*nt Kiss@ss: That's rich. I LOVE being lectured on "character" by an apparently self-loathing liberal.

    Don't you have a veteran to go spit on, like some of your like-minded ilk?

    Anon 10:42, please tell me where I can find the "adoring KO circle jerk"?

    Nameless: I apologize for highlighting your remarks at 10:29. Are we still friends?

    Mmmmmmmm... Mike is getting wet at the idea...

    Anon 10:42, please tell me where I can find the "adoring KO circle jerk"?

    Posted by: Mike at January 30, 2007 10:45 PM


    http://www.haloscan.com/comments/crooks/100114014

    Obama-Rama-Bama:

    I did accidently spit on a veteran today, but I really didn't mean to. It happened while I was trying to spit into the trash can and it hit my leg instead!

    That's okay, Mike- its your friends that do it on purpose...

    Mike,

    You sound like His Lordship, John Kerry. "...you know that, and other Americans know that...."

    Why don't you help someone in the service now by saying something like "I want you to win".

    Being compared to John Kerry on January 30th 2007: a great insult.

    Obama-Rama-bama:

    I only have two good friends that are undeniably liberal, and I can assure you, neither one of them would ever spit on anybody.

    Mike: Is that because they don't have saliva ?

    Mike, you have two friends? WoW!

    But Rico, I DO want you to win! Are you loosing?

    Did you see His Lordship crying on the Senate floor the other day? That was precious.

    Rico: And claimed untrue by Eric Boehlert.

    This self-loathing liberal spent a good portion of the fall donating time, money and labor to a number of active duty and veterans' outreaches in Texas and Georgia. It was gratifying work. Such work is a duty of all Americans not actively serving in a time of war, especially during a war fought on the cheap and without the slightest regard for safety, morale and medical care and attention. I gather Six Pack Patriots must be exempt from such duty. Of course, they do perform a valuable service putting magnets on their pick-ups and waving the flag all about. Those activities undoubtedly consume vast amounts of time and energy.

    Of course, I didn't purchase any Bill-o drivel for these men and women. My failing, I am sure, but I respect their intelligence and honor their service far too much for that.

    Undoubtedly, you spent your time attempting to elect representatives dedicated to slandering veterans and cutting their benefits and callously sending more troops into the Iraq slog. That is, assuming you did anything other than simmer hate and spew filth all about.

    By the way: The last time I spit on anyone was in the second grade. A nun beat the living hell out of me. Please don't assume that everyone is as crude and vulgar as you seem to be.

    You'll pardon me, I am sure, if I go sip a Fume Blanc and engage in a bit of self-loathing for a while.

    Mike,


    You ain't that funny. Perhaps you should limit yourself to a self imposed quota of "funny lines".

    No, I'm not loosing. Are you winning?

    Obama-Rama-bama:

    Yea, buddy...and I also have some conservative friends too, and they wouldn't spit on anyone either. They don't really like to talk politics anymore, though, but I respect that!

    "They don't really like to talk politics anymore"

    Your friends are probably true conservatives and not like these sorry head nodders that haunt this site.

    Mike: Not to you. I also no longer trust liberals for political info. They think that everything that they now preech is "fact". Global Warming / the war in Iraq / the middle class ... foolish people. I kind of wished that Limbaugh never openned his divisive yapper so that the libs would never have ended up this vitriolic, but ... se louve.

    Yeah, K*nt Kiss@ss, you're a saint. You do wonderful things, blah-blah-blah.
    Believe me when I say that you are the EXCEPTION to the liberals, not the RULE.
    MOST libs lothe the military (see Bill Clinton's letter to the Draft Board) and some have advocated for its abolition (see San Francisco's City Council).

    So, good luck with the "We're Liberals- We love the Military" line.

    OK Rico, I'll get more serious now:

    Going back to your 10:53 question. I'd rather help the servicemen now by getting them the hell out of that meat grinder in Iraq before many more of them are killed.

    I award myself a clear thinker with my most recent thread.

    > I don't get Showtime because it's not offered as part of my cable company's package and I can't get satellite. How do I know Johnny's description is accurate?

    For one, because it's on this site, the most unfailingly accurate Olbermann site on all the internets, which is why it's the #1 Olbermann blog. For two, WHAT description are you talking about?

    Mike: Do the liberals lubricate the meat grinder so that the voters get the most for their ballots ?!?

    Between lubricate & the: [each morning]

    Obama Watch:

    You simply can't award yourself a clear thinker award. Johnny has to do it!

    Until the website gets the icons back ... the awards are only virtual, and not actual, any way.

    What a shock here about TVNewser (below). You might want to mention this in your next post J$:

    Finally, finally, finally!

    It's now officially in print that Brian Stelter is both a Keith Olbermann fan and rooting for a liberal (he's admitting Olbermann isn't a down-the-middle news anchor!) to succeed on cable news. Stelter even goes so far to say that he thinks Nielsen is tallying up Countdown's ratings incorrectly.

    I give Stelter credit for finally acknowledging what many have accused him of for a long time. Now CNN and FOX know for sure where he stands and so do the readers of the site. And congratulations to Olbermann and MSNBC for getting a 21-year-old college senior on their side. On a serious note, though, there's no real reason to criticize Stelter any more, he's entitled to his opinion and he's finally being up front with readers about where he stands. It's about time!

    http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=4268

    "The common wisdom has always been that liberals would not come to a show like this on cable and stay with it," Stelter says. "As long as he's willing to say and do things that other people on cable wouldn't, I think he can keep it going. I'm excited that there's someone out there not following the cues from the government the media usually follows."

    "[Stelter] finds a news show like "Countdown" that stands up to the government superior to the work of the old newsgatherers on air and in print, who sometimes appear to simply recite what the government says."

    "Even Stelter, who is a fan, says, "His show survives on two topics, Bush and the war in Iraq. I can't imagine he'd last for more than a few years doing what he's doing."

    And this from an actual professional TV critic and writer:

    "Glenn Garvin, television writer for the Miami Herald, says most of America isn't paying attention. "Olbermann is a media cause célèbre and a popular flop," Garvin wrote in an e-mail interview. "To me, he's simply the flip side of Bill O'Reilly, a guy rewriting the wires and sprinkling it with random political rants, better gag lines, but a more predictable point of view."

    I have special reasons for hating FIX News and Bill O'Reilly. He goes after child molesters and judges that go easy on them. Sometimes I think about that while I'm cruising the playgrounds for sweet little boys.

    Nobody should be as excited about anything as RedState is about Brian Stelter.

    Kurt Kissel: I think the predators are more affraid of the kid's parents than they are of that troll who looks for ways to get people to think that Bill O' Reilly is compassionate.

    I see our imposter is back in the 11:28 post posing as Kurt Kissel.

    See, this is proof: Any tactic is fair as long as you are against Olbermann, and Olbermann defenders.

    Compassionate? Hell, we all know that only only lily white liberals are capable of compassion. Those old gals that voted for Ike and go to church on Sunday wouldn't know compassion if it sat on their faces and wriggled. Bottom line: No conservative is compassionate. None. Ever.

    Not Too Much: When they try to be compassionate ... we end up in a war that goes no where. I am sorry that the Liberals bog down the troops, but I am sorry that we had to be in this in the first place!

    I have changed my mind about Keith and now I'm really sorry I ever called him Tehran Keith.

    When they try to be compassionate ... we end up in a war that goes no where.

    What? I guess in a liberals world, History starts and ends with his view of todays news.
    Sorry is a good word for you , Bicker.

    There is nothing for me to say. I would talk to my two friends ... but they shun me for going on this website...

    I am sure that this hard - to - defend war will end up some place, Macho ...

    "For one, because it's on this site, the most unfailingly accurate Olbermann site on all the internets, which is why it's the #1 Olbermann blog."

    *laughs*

    Oh, wait...you were serious.

    Again, you're talking about a show that less than 10% of America could POSSIBLY see, and maybe 10% of that 10% ACTUALLY SAW IT. So you're basing an attack on a show that...maybe 2 million people saw (by comparison, the WORST television program on network TV will usually get 3-4 million).

    "For two, WHAT description are you talking about?"

    My apologies. Usually you provide a (very brief) sketch of what the show is about. I guess the title is self-explanatory...but I still don't get it.

    But Ensign, you are aware that this web site is bought and paid for...you are aware of that, arn't you?

    Bragging about having the #1 Olbermann related website "on the internets" is kind of like bragging about living in the biggest house on your block.

    Why would anyone care?

    Mike: We are talkling about a guy that impatiently waits to hear from Brian & The Judge thinks ...

    What the f--- does "defending the war" have to do with this site? I don't defend this war, I don't like GW Bush, and I find Olbermann to be a Putz of the first order. Really.

    Kiran Chetry and Megan Kelly were on The Factor Tonight. On Olbermann's show, you get to see his fairy face or the wolf man’s. Coward Mike and Kurt Coward Kissel must have had vigorous pillow biting session after the 30 thousand man anti-war protest. This was ballooned up to 100 thousand by the far left media. Protesters were also paid homeless people. Author Mark Steyn was on Hannity and I forgot. The segment show how Europe will soon be conquered by Islamic fascist. Europe is full of cowards who will soon be praying to Mecca daily. The tuff solider Mike would be a four star general in the French army. I encourage the two cowards, Mike and Kurt, to watch Hannity's America on Sunday nights. Hannity's last show demonstrated how Clinton emboldened the Islamic fascist to strike America by not killing Osama. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself on geo-politics.

    I saw Olebramann's special comments and I thought he came across paranoid. He sounded like thaqt Trailer Park trash Buffalo!

    I am a proud soilder of Code Pink. Kurt Kissle is my rear admiral.

    The Factor: Plad up until the end of your spiel. That I thought was supposed to be sarcasm.

    Here's the scene: Pizza has been eaten. Hillary is bed. Bill is alone with Monica and is about to unveil his genitals to her for the first time. Did Bill think to himself " I am the Decider? Did he think: " I have a choice here. I am 55 years old and this 18 year old is willing. I am the decider." Most likely, he did not. Liberals such as Bill Clinton are far to intellectually superior to use such a hokey phrase.

    "Mike and Kurt, to watch Hannity's America on Sunday nights. Hannity's last show demonstrated how Clinton emboldened the Islamic fascist to strike America by not killing Osama. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself on geo-politics.
    Posted by: The Factor at January 31, 2007 12:19 AM"
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    The "pillow biting" commentator who sucks up the call to pussies from Fox Noise - "Be afraid, be very afraid" thinks France and or Europe will fall to Islamists.

    One more flunky hiding under his bed because Fox runs some angry protesters outraged over the fact that more than a hundred thousand innocent Muslim men women and children have died humiliating deaths in Iraq. (at the hands of England and the US).

    Nice Christian propaganda. Muslims in Europe outraged over a slaughter equals the down fall of Europe. Do we call this hysteria or good propaganda by Fox Noise? f---ing dumb kool-aid drinking cowards!

    I love how out of touch and coldly insensitive all these so called conservative family value Christian cowards are to the death and destruction of people who happen to be dark and of a foreign religion to them. None of these people in Iraq who have died like dogs ever attacked this nation or threatened to. Saddam was our man for decades. He brutalized his people for decades with the west's support. Oil first - people second! (mean while $30,000 SUV's flood American highways)

    I have no clue what it must be like to be so out of touch with one's humanity. Where did this culture of disconnect come from? How do you look the other way when you hear of the carnage in Iraq? Children burned and blown to pieces, children crying over their dead parents bodies. How is it that we have a culture within our culture so in denial of the value of human life?

    The answer is simple. It was breed from more than 400 years of holding and selling humans as slaves, with a hundred years of segregation that followed. Who are the vermin who were spawned of such a culture? That would be the "We are not the evil ones" culture of evangelicals. Always claiming to be "pro-life" and "pro-family values" as a denial of the obvious. They are the ones stripped of their humanity many years ago. The curse of their fathers and the product of a culture in denial with no hope of repenting.

    These non repentant - "the south shall rise again" Confederate flag waving inhuman cowards cling like a child to mechanical human validation outlets like Fox and Limbaugh along with a whole host of predecessors called Evangelists.

    Fox Noise was born from 700 Club, and 700 Club was born from traveling tent revival evangelists who evolved up to radio.

    Bush would never have been able to sink our national debt to levels my grandchildren will spend their whole life paying just the interest on. The Muslim world would not have Iraq as one more excuse to hate us all even more. They hate us in the first place for our cold indifference to our governmental policies that dominate world markets that are backed by their oil under their land. (something you brain dead hillbilly Fox cowards would know squat about - the dollar being backed by petrodollars).

    The main reason we are where we are today is because our society can't get the strait truth from any of our main media outlets. Fox, CNN or MSNBC!

    If this nation had a democracy as our founding fathers intended we would not have a strangle hold on information by multinational corporations. We would have a population of people that not only loved and respected their families but would understand that wasteful pig headed consumption habits deny other families of lessor nations who are just as deserving as we are.

    We are a nation of idiots. Proof of this is that Fox Noise has such high ratings. Not just idiots but coward idiots who are spoon feed double talk mumbo jumbo garbage instead telling us all the truth about the consequences of our wasteful habits of consumption and mind numbing brain scrambling media.
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    76% increase in Type II diabetes in adults 30-40 yrs old since 1990


    To all you empty cold hearted disconnected spawn of the Klan culture - may you rot in the hell of your own making!


    Let's face it, Liberals are wretched excuses for human beings.

    I checked out for a few hours and came back to find that someone who doesn't even see the idiocy of naming himself the 'factor' was busy quoting Fox propaganda again...and to find that some other idiot has hijacked my name to make silly little bombastic comments.

    Factor is calling me a 'coward' while suggesting with a straight face that I watch Hannity. Now, for me to sit through a full session of Hannity would require at the minimum, a very large barf bag. Hannity is nothing but pure ignorance with a motor mouth.

    I actually did just spend an hour listening to Michael Ware being interviewed by Anderson Cooper. Michael Ware is the one person who's opinion I respect the most regarding this war because he has been in the middle of it from the beginning (and is very lucky to still be alive). If you want to best understand what has happened in Iraq, he is the one to listen to.

    Mike, so you don't support the war. We get it. What, exactly, is the relevance of that to this site? I don't support the war either, but damn, that doesn't make TehranKeith any less of an assclown. Get a goddam clue, looser ( as you would spell it).

    "Mike, so you don't support the war. We get it. What, exactly, is the relevance of that to this site?".

    Is that a serious question? Do you actually watch KO or do you just read Johnny's so called 'recaps'?

    Olbermann's show and commentary is largely about being against the war, and how Bush has conducted it. You may think you can separate the two, but I don't see how you can.

    This site is intended to be nothing but one big character assasination session of a public figure that someone hates enough to put up enough money to do it with. You and your's go along with this bullshit willingly, but I'll be damned if I will.

    The rest of your ignorant insult session is not even worth responding to.

    "Clips of Arlan Specter ("R") saying President is not the sole decider, Dick Durbin (D), Russell Feingold (D), aka "The Statesman"."

    &, of course, also from our hero:

    "> I don't get Showtime because it's not offered as part of my cable company's package and I can't get satellite. How do I know Johnny's description is accurate?

    For one, because it's on this site, the most unfailingly accurate Olbermann site on all the internets, which is why it's the #1 Olbermann blog. For two, WHAT description are you talking about?"

    Posted by: johnny dollar at January 30, 2007 11:08 PM

    Now, Johnny FRAUD... Are you ever going to answer my question posed to you at the beginning of this month? That being, ARE YOU PAID FOR THIS WEBSITE OR NOT, & IF YOU ARE, BY WHOM? Prolly not, (& you'll have to excuse my spelling errors, no name... We can't all be University of Phoenix graduates like yourself, though...,) because you, your buddy Robert Cox, & all of your O'lying friends don't want you too right? You've got huge balls, Johnny FRAUD.... But that's all I am going to say about that...

    I'd rather focus this posting onthe two comments above, as they show so much more of those elephant sized gonads you've got.

    The first of the comments I am going to be critical of is the one where you infer that Senator Arlen Specter is not a real Republican with your question mark next to the (R) after his name. Why is this? Is the Republican party not big tent enough for you to accept other's viewpoints all of a sudden? Is it that he is against a couple of policies that you are in favor of? Is it because he got electede from the "Blue State" of Pennsylvania, (a bastion of liberalism which TWICE elected the 'Most COnservative' member of the Senate, & that John Kerry won by a mere 96,000 votes in 2004?) Is it thathe is really a liberal? Or is it his 'BIG CRIME' against the O'Liars in this room, against the very fabric of our nation, the fact that he goes to Synagogue on Saturdays & that he wakes up on Christmas morning, NOT to open his presents, not to rush to Church or to even watch the 700 club, but rather to look in the Newspaper for the movie listings, or languishes all day trying to locate the Open Chineese restaurants? I want to know, Johnnie FRAUD, what the deal is here.... Because as a Pennsylvanian Jew, (one, whom, admittedly & regrettably made the mistake of voting for Joe Houghel (I know... Who?) in the Senate race in 2004, & is happy that he didn't do it. Hmmm... imagine where this country might be without Arlen Spector right now.... Does Justice Harriet Myers ring any bells? You need some help...

    As far as the 'Sleeper Cell' argument goes, my entire logic is prolly (again, no name... take it easy.,.) foreign to you. But we'll try it anyhow. If you, in fact, actually watch 'Sleeper Cell,' I prolly wouldn't like it just on the basis of the fact that you watch it... But, regardless, if you in fact like this show, you should provide a description of it, if only because it is on a premiumm channel, & might interest those who might have the money to watch it. Or, because you are trying to prove a point... either way, you must provide us with some basis on the show if anybody is going to ever take you seriously (as though this were ever a real concern for you...)

    &, by the way, this is hardly 'the most unfailingly accurate Olbermann site on the web.' That is a laughable description, as you well know that everybody has heir own opinion on just about everything, & you continually deny the correctness of ny of these opinions to Keith Olbermann, (a damned fine American if ever there was one, IMHO.) As for the part of the comment thatyours is the 'most read site on the web, i'd like to make you aware of 2 things.

    1) Just as Keith olbermann says on his show about O'liar's show, 6 billion flies CAN be wrong...

    &

    2) I think that we should start comparing your sites figures to the number of hits, say, google gets in a day... They would make 'Sleeper Cell' look like a hit, I am certain. Oh, apples & oranges, you'd say? well, it is NO DIFFERENT than your constant comparisons of Olbermann with American Idol, the Simpsons, or, heck, even Bill O'liar's comedy hour over on the 20th Century Fox 'news??' channel...

    I realize that you prolly (I know, that's FOUR TIMES, No Name!! I must be a moron now!!) will not respond to this other than to call me an 'Olbyloon' or a fan of the great monkeydini or something of the like... But I know you read this blog, so I shall post this with that knowledge.

    Thank You all for your time,

    G-D bless you, G-d Bless your children, & may G-d bless the United States of America,

    I remain, Proud to be a Liberal

    Oh yeah, &, before I forget... No name is Still an a--hole!!

    Peace!

    "Clips of Arlan Specter ("R") saying President is not the sole decider, Dick Durbin (D), Russell Feingold (D), aka "The Statesman"."

    &, of course, also from our hero:

    "> I don't get Showtime because it's not offered as part of my cable company's package and I can't get satellite. How do I know Johnny's description is accurate?

    For one, because it's on this site, the most unfailingly accurate Olbermann site on all the internets, which is why it's the #1 Olbermann blog. For two, WHAT description are you talking about?"

    Posted by: johnny dollar at January 30, 2007 11:08 PM

    Now, Johnny FRAUD... Are you ever going to answer my question posed to you at the beginning of this month? That being, ARE YOU PAID FOR THIS WEBSITE OR NOT, & IF YOU ARE, BY WHOM? Prolly not, (& you'll have to excuse my spelling errors, no name... We can't all be University of Phoenix graduates like yourself, though...,) because you, your buddy Robert Cox, & all of your O'lying friends don't want you too right? You've got huge balls, Johnny FRAUD.... But that's all I am going to say about that...

    I'd rather focus this posting onthe two comments above, as they show so much more of those elephant sized gonads you've got.

    The first of the comments I am going to be critical of is the one where you infer that Senator Arlen Specter is not a real Republican with your question mark next to the (R) after his name. Why is this? Is the Republican party not big tent enough for you to accept other's viewpoints all of a sudden? Is it that he is against a couple of policies that you are in favor of? Is it because he got electede from the "Blue State" of Pennsylvania, (a bastion of liberalism which TWICE elected the 'Most COnservative' member of the Senate, & that John Kerry won by a mere 96,000 votes in 2004?) Is it thathe is really a liberal? Or is it his 'BIG CRIME' against the O'Liars in this room, against the very fabric of our nation, the fact that he goes to Synagogue on Saturdays & that he wakes up on Christmas morning, NOT to open his presents, not to rush to Church or to even watch the 700 club, but rather to look in the Newspaper for the movie listings, or languishes all day trying to locate the Open Chineese restaurants? I want to know, Johnnie FRAUD, what the deal is here.... Because as a Pennsylvanian Jew, (one, whom, admittedly & regrettably made the mistake of voting for Joe Houghel (I know... Who?) in the Senate race in 2004, & is happy that he didn't do it. Hmmm... imagine where this country might be without Arlen Spector right now.... Does Justice Harriet Myers ring any bells? You need some help...

    As far as the 'Sleeper Cell' argument goes, my entire logic is prolly (again, no name... take it easy.,.) foreign to you. But we'll try it anyhow. If you, in fact, actually watch 'Sleeper Cell,' I prolly wouldn't like it just on the basis of the fact that you watch it... But, regardless, if you in fact like this show, you should provide a description of it, if only because it is on a premiumm channel, & might interest those who might have the money to watch it. Or, because you are trying to prove a point... either way, you must provide us with some basis on the show if anybody is going to ever take you seriously (as though this were ever a real concern for you...)

    &, by the way, this is hardly 'the most unfailingly accurate Olbermann site on the web.' That is a laughable description, as you well know that everybody has heir own opinion on just about everything, & you continually deny the correctness of ny of these opinions to Keith Olbermann, (a damned fine American if ever there was one, IMHO.) As for the part of the comment thatyours is the 'most read site on the web, i'd like to make you aware of 2 things.

    1) Just as Keith olbermann says on his show about O'liar's show, 6 billion flies CAN be wrong...

    &

    2) I think that we should start comparing your sites figures to the number of hits, say, google gets in a day... They would make 'Sleeper Cell' look like a hit, I am certain. Oh, apples & oranges, you'd say? well, it is NO DIFFERENT than your constant comparisons of Olbermann with American Idol, the Simpsons, or, heck, even Bill O'liar's comedy hour over on the 20th Century Fox 'news??' channel...

    I realize that you prolly (I know, that's FOUR TIMES, No Name!! I must be a moron now!!) will not respond to this other than to call me an 'Olbyloon' or a fan of the great monkeydini or something of the like... But I know you read this blog, so I shall post this with that knowledge.

    Thank You all for your time,

    G-D bless you, G-d Bless your children, & may G-d bless the United States of America,

    I remain, Proud to be a Liberal

    Oh yeah, &, before I forget... No name is Still an a--hole!!

    Peace!

    you all will have to excuse the errors I made in that fine posting i posted at 4:09 AM, & accept thess changes to the paragraph noted...

    The first of the comments I am going to be critical of is the one where you infer that Senator Arlen Specter is not a real Republican with your QUOTATION MARKS WITHIN the ("R") after his name. Why is this? Is the Republican party not big tent enough for you to accept other's viewpoints all of a sudden? Is it that he is against a couple of policies that you are in favor of? Is it because he got electede from the "Blue State" of Pennsylvania, (a bastion of liberalism which TWICE elected the 'Most COnservative' member of the Senate, & that John Kerry won by a mere 96,000 votes in 2004?) Is it thathe is really a liberal? Or is it his 'BIG CRIME' against the O'Liars in this room, against the very fabric of our nation, the fact that he goes to Synagogue on Saturdays & that he wakes up on Christmas morning, NOT to open his presents, not to rush to Church or to even watch the 700 club, but rather to look in the Newspaper for the movie listings, or languishes all day trying to locate the Open Chineese restaurants? I want to know, Johnnie FRAUD, what the deal is here.... Because as a Pennsylvanian Jew, (one, whom, admittedly & regrettably made the mistake of voting for Joe Houghel (I know... Who?) in the Senate race in 2004, & is NOW happy that he didn't WIN. Hmmm... imagine where this country might be without Arlen Spector right now.... Does Justice Harriet Myers ring any bells?) You need some help...

    Thanks again all, I just don't want to offend that no named a--hole with a misqualification or something...

    Sleep tight all...

    I reamin,

    Proud to be a Liberal

    PS NO NAME IS STILL AN a--hole!

    liberals are a--holes

    Do you think that if the anti-war protesters last week had attacked and smashed up an MSNBC news van Olby would have given them a 'worst person' award?
    Nope.
    Did Keith even mention how these peace lovers spray painted obscenities and anarchist symbols on the capitol steps?

    "You can always count on the Olbyhaters to bring out some good ole bigotry." says the self imposed arbiter of morals and bigotry hisself indierik.. another liberal demanding we change society to "accept" the degenerates and sickos as normal. Hey douche bag liberal! you don't get to set the standards or impose your "anything goes" twisted mentality on me or anybody else. You evangelical liberals are worse than the missionaries who tried to impose their will and belief systems on others.
    bigotry- anything that does not agree with the nutjob liberal ideology.

    The orthotropic design?

    The orthotropic design?

    What be dat you be talkin' about niggah? I be a nig-niggah, a niggah niggah niggah!

    Of course, Clinton never said he "never had sex with that woman". You on the right NEVER get that quote right. Why is that? I know. Your Clinton hatred disables your interest in the truth.

    The EXACT quote is: "I did not have SEXUAL RELATIONS with that woman..."

    Indeed, according to a stipulation by the Jones attorneys in their lawsuit against our beloved former president, "sexual relations" specifically meant sexual intercourse.

    So, Clinton didn't lie when he said this, outsmarted those on the right bent to destroy him, and has of course, rendered those who hate him stupid and silly with perverse animosity to this very day.

    anrgrypoodle- whats the sky color in your dumb world

    DoucheBag Olbermanns book was on sale at my local Barnes and Nobles for $5.99 in the overstock section.
    Even at that price no one was buying.

    To "posted by":

    Instead of nonsensical platitudes cribbed from the boys bathroom stall at your junior high...why not attempt to refute my factual statement?

    I know why.

    You just can't.

    no poodle... It's because they be nig-niggahs, those niggah niggah niggahs...

    Or maybe, because I be Michael Richards, a Jiggah Jiggah, Jiggah!!!

    In your world, Clinton got off scott free, which is actually not what history reflects. Quit getting your news and history lessons from Blue blogs. Its embarrassing.

    Sure doesn't sound like you got it right!

    Poodle facts:

    In April 1999, about two months after being acquitted by the Senate, Clinton was cited by Federal District Judge Susan Webber Wright for civil contempt of court for his "willful failure" to obey her repeated orders to testify truthfully in the Paula Jones sexual harassment lawsuit. For this citation, Clinton was assessed a $90,000 fine, and the matter was referred to the Arkansas Supreme Court to see if disciplinary action would be appropriate.

    Regarding Clinton's January 17, 1998, deposition where he was placed under oath, the judge wrote:
    "Simply put, the president's deposition testimony regarding whether he had ever been alone with Ms. (Monica) Lewinsky was intentionally false, and his statements regarding whether he had ever engaged in sexual relations with Ms. Lewinsky likewise were intentionally false . . . ."

    In January 2001, on the day before leaving office, Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension of his Arkansas law license as part of an agreement with the independent counsel to end the investigation. Based on this suspension, Clinton was also automatically suspended from the United States Supreme Court bar, from which he chose to resign.

    Ouch! Yeah he got over on the dumb rest of us. As if

    posted by angrypussy......cat:

    "So, Clinton didn't lie when he said this, outsmarted those on the right bent to destroy him, and has of course, rendered those who hate him stupid and silly with perverse animosity to this very day."

    Holy crap. Another liberal idiot that speaks with eloquence and big words to impress because he "think" they are so smart. When idiots like this write something they can't wait to hit the send button because they think it's so impressive but the reality is it's a boatload of bullshit and the only one it impressed was the writer. reults for short dick syndrome.

    Only in your little teaspoon of grey matter bouncing around in that vacuum between your ears and only in that 4 x 4 sandbox you, Mikey, Bill O'Leilly, Codumbass call your world.

    Yeah, "That depends on what your definition of is is". Sex, blow job, screwing. Bill CLinton is not only a liar, he's a cheat, adulterer, pot head, yellow-bellied-draft dodger, rapist, traitor and a coward. He got a blowjob on a desk where decisions were made that affected billions of lives.

    Olbyloon and CLinton are pieces of shit.

    Mr. Olberman, I did not vote for the IraqStudy Committee. I did not vote for teh 911 Commission. I voted for the President of the US and he runs the country. If you do not like it sir, get the "F" out.

    Moonbats are so mad they can't think
    Like Cindy Sheehan on a mixed drink
    Teeth they are grinding
    Their anger is blinding
    They can't see that Keith needs a shrink

    Of course, "civil contempt" is not a criminal conviction. Clinton has never been convicted of any crime.

    The "civl contempt" citation, and the judge's "opinion" on Clinton's conduct meant that Clinton could only command $100,000 per 30 min speech after he left office, instead of...well...$100,500.

    Our beloved former President was also devastated that for five years, he was unable to try child custody cases for the toothless in Little Rock. Boo Hoo.

    And, Brick? When was Clinton convicted of rape? You know...where was the trial held? What was the sentence? The presiding judge? Heh heh.

    You see, just "saying" someone is guilty of a crime is meaningless. You just kind of "think" Clinton is "guilty", based on your "say so".

    Clinton hatred makes you silly. Let it go.

    Classic Olby. . . Accuses a british cop of fear mongering on the war on terror in their country just hours before a breaking news story headlines CNN's website on how a terror ring was just broken up over there.

    The poor guy just can't win!

    I wonder if Olberloon will think this is fake news or he will completely ignore it.

    Kidnap And Beheading Plot
    Updated: 13:16, Wednesday January 31, 2007

    The eight people arrested by terror police in Birmingham were allegedly planning an Iraq-style kidnapping and beheading in the UK.

    Sky's Crime Correspondent Martin Brunt says they intended to post a video of the hostage being tortured and killed on the internet.

    Their target was a British Muslim soldier in his twenties who is now under police protection.

    The soldier, who has not been named, has served with UK forces in Afghanistan.

    His abduction would have mirrored the kidnappings of the British hostages Ken Bigley and Margaret Hassan by Iraqi insurgents.

    The suspects - believed to be of Pakistani origin - were detained under the Terrorism Act after a six-month surveillance operation.

    It just gets thicker poodle boy,
    First he got over and now you assert that whatever happens - it doesn't hurt. I just point out the hypocrisy of you assertion of Billo 'getting over' on the dumb reps. You, sir, are a loser.

    When is this hatemonger going to be off the air?

    Brick,

    Glad you voted for the president of the United States. Half of us did not and we have just as much right to be in this country as those who did. Actually, we have more right, because we aren't in favor of selling out the country to a bunch of traitors, just because we are terrified of authority figures...

    But, perhaps you have a tie to match the yellow streak down your back...

    Funny how the right wing doesn't mention the highlight of KO's show last night: His special Comment...
    where 4 more of Bush's lies were put to rest.

    When this administration can't find a success to speak of, they just invent them.

    As an owner of GE stock
    I'm not amused with Uberloon's crock
    They should fire the twit
    Or force him to quit
    And go back to just sniffing jock

    You people are ignorant. Absolutely ignorant. You offer no actual, factual proof... just a bunch of stupid 3rd grade level crying and whining.

    No wonder China is the new global power.

    I try very hard to read his special comment, and I just cannot continue to read after a few lines. What evidence is he asking for, to blow up another World Trade Center, another 3,000 people died, are you satisfied, Mr. Olbermann?

    I have said it many many times, just don’t blame the President, or a special point-finger-to-the-President comment, if it does happen again here in this country.

    Speaking of the war, I think Senator Clinton has said the most irresponsible comment on President Bush the other day, he had to clean up this mess before he leaves the office. Yeah, so you don’t have to deal with it and just party and travel around the globe on our tax dollars. So why do we need an election to elect someone to help us out to fight against terrorism, to protect us here at home, to bring our troops back home as soon as the situation allows. We do not need a candidate like Senator Clinton definitely period

    I am sure if she gets elected, our tax will go skyhigh again even higher than the first Clinton, don’t even think of getting refund checks in the mail.

    The plot to blow up planes from London to New York was not a lie, Bob. I'm sure if the Brits and us stopped the 9/11 attackers while they were in the mid-planning stages, you would have screaming that Bush was lying about that too.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don't...

    China is the "new global power", because, in order to finance the additional $8 trillion in debt this administration has accumulated to finance the war in Iraq and tax cuts primiarily designated to the more than financially secure, the Communists are backing the debt through U.S. Treasury Bond purchases.

    The Communist Red Chinese therefore are emboldened to spend their dividend income they blissfully enjoy by financing United States debt, to purchase and develop the technology to blast satellites out of the empty void of space.

    You see, this is why the "war on terror" is so very much like World War II. There is so very much sacrifice on the part of the stoic American people now, like in that war of all wars. I mean, as our brave soldiers are defending freedom in Iraq, the wealthy are sacrificing with tax cuts and volunteering their children for the noble effort there...uh...wait a minute...

    Loonie left defined-
    MSNBC had two pundits from both sides on the terror subject Monday. The right wing pundit said Bush should be given credit for averting a terrorist attack in the US. The left pundit laughed and said it was because the Dem senate imposed the 9-11 recommendations that there has been no attack.

    So- two weeks ago- legislation is passed and THAT legislation has curbed 5 years of attacks.

    This logic is why you rarely see fair-and-balanced debates on MessNBC. The left rarely wins... rather- their pundits rarely win.

    Is this the same china that was given a pass on the Kyoto treaty that we refused to sign?

    "Did Keith even mention how these peace lovers spray painted obscenities and anarchist symbols on the capitol steps?"

    Did you read the article in the Washington Post that identified those people as an "anarchist splinter group" (NOT part of the main protest) that was ALLOWED to do what they did to avoid a VIOLENT confrontation with Capitol Police? Or are you just spouting more wignuttia?

    "Is this the same china that was given a pass on the Kyoto treaty that we refused to sign?"

    Actually, benson, China signed and ratified the Kyoto Protocols. They were excepted on certain provisions because their current greenhouse gas output is much lower (54% of U.S. emissions).

    And the U.S. did SIGN the Kyoto Protocol. It was never submitted to the U.S. Senate for RATIFICATION.

    Jane,

    Our taxes did go "sky-high" under Bush; what you and the rest of your ilk are too ignorant to realize is that these taxes are simply deferred. It's called a deficit. Stupid people don't mind it much...kinda like "rent to own"...

    what will Olby say about the English terrorists who planned to behead an English Muslim soldier? Or about Joe Biden, who just called Obama a "clean black"? Will there be breathless ranting about terrorism in the UK or racism in the Democrat party? I wonder . . . hmmmmmmmm . . .

    EE-
    I hate to admit it but -I researched the spitting and the defacing and agree it was probably right wing propaganda.

    The defacing loons were just piling on during the protest and pretty much were dispersed early.

    The spitting veteran seemed to have a pre-protest agenda AND actually proposed to his girlfriend on air when he was interviewed. (Told her he would if he ever was on TV)

    Hmmmm

    This is certainly a surreal period. On one network they're showing Islamic extremists preaching about abuse to women, indoctrinating children. Iran has openly and publicly declared their inetention to destory the US and Israel. Terrorists are killing anyone, anywhere.

    Yet Bush is the true enemey.

    Countless hours trying to get him trapped with Scooter Libby, conutless hours spent discrediting him, giving all the bad press- then when the expected bad polling #s comes in - countless hours touting them

    Just surprised NBC news, and other, have just gone off the deep end and basically are so consumed with hatred of Bush. More so than the people who certainly won't take the treatment the left has hadned to the Christian conservatives - who to a large degree are taught to "turn the other cheek". These terrorists will have Fonda, Hillary and Pelosi in a burka(sp?) cooking over an open pit fire

    Madonna, Fonda, Penn, Olbermann, Peloi, Reid, Matthews & Co. when they finally out find out the enemy ain't the conservatives - a message they have spent Bush' entire term in office extolling, it may be too late.

    And Opie - you're the biggest wimp on TV. Nothing I have ever seen you do or say, has been anything but a self serving desire for (1) yourself and (2) your ratings - and you're still a failed sportcaster, with an audience that can only, now, with your tact of a total disregard for the responsibility of journalism - kooks.

    Surreal is mild.

    No wonder things are so f---ed in Iraq. We've had Darth Vader leading Happy Gilmore around by the nose for six years.


    Bush has near 'tractor accident' in visit to Illinois factory

    Michael Roston
    Published: Wednesday January 31, 2007

    The White House announced its visit to a Caterpillar factory in East Peoria, Illinois, yesterday, where President George W. Bush advanced his case for expanding free trade negotiations. But it didn't detail the President's clumsy driving of a giant D-10 tractor that sent the White House press corps and presidential staff scrambling, which was reported at a Newsweek blog. At "The Gaggle," Newsweek reporter Holly Bailey writes that the president clambered into the driver's seat of Caterpillar's giant D10 tractor. "I would suggest moving back...I'm about to crank this sucker up," she reports him saying. But as White House staff started to move the press corps back, the situation became more chaotic. Bailey writes that "the tractor lurched forward" and White House staff "too were forced to scramble for safety. "Get out of the way!" a news photographer yelled. "I think he might run us over!"" Bush chuckled about the incident, and referenced driving the tractor during his speech, saying "I'm impressed by a culture of excellence and accomplishment that is the spirit of Caterpillar. I also appreciate the chance to drive a D10. If you've never driven a D10 -- (laughter) -- it's a cool experience. (Laughter)," according to the White House website. Bailey looked less fondly upon Bush's test drive of the D-10. "Yeah, almost as much fun as seeing your life flash before your eyes," she wrote in response to the president's remark about his "cool experience."

    KK- You make it sound like the British felt it wasn't a terror plot.
    Fact is, the brits wanted to let the plot grow to within a week of the execution. Our govt. did not want them to slip away. You are an Olbyloon if you think it was NOT a plot.

    Actually, it was a lie.

    The British never deemed the so-called plot sufficiently ripe to take action. Plane tickets had not been purchased, most of the alleged conspirators did not have passports and could not have boarded planes, they had no explosives expertise or plan, and they had no tactics, much less strategy developed. On the basis of the evidence, the British felt that they could prove nothing more than discussions of a dark nature had taken place. Such discussions do not constitute actionable crimes. The British, who are much better than we at surveillance and counter-espionage, felt they might be onto something important, and were going to simply observe and act when the time was right. By so doing, they were more likely to get convictions among the members of the group in questions and also get leads to far bigger conspirators and cells.

    --Kurt Kissel

    Um, no, it wasn't a lie.
    Perhaps there were tenacles which might have lead to bigger fish, as you point out. Nonetheless, this was a "real" plot.
    I suspect that you would recognize the seriousness of the attack if and only if your hair were singed by the fireball.

    Olbermann's reaction to the newest plot.... (my guess)

    "It was only a planned kidnapping of a single soldier. Mr. Bush, a kidnapping and beheading of one soldier does not constitute a alleged terror plot. Have you no shame"

    While the prediction of Olbermann's reaction to this "plot" might be accurate, what will the Administration's reaction be?

    "Bring 'em on!" is my guess.

    And the dems response
    "Lets pass a resolution to condemn the plot"

    And, Bush's response

    "So, let's attack Venezuala!"...

    And the Dems reponse
    "Lets pass a non-binding resolution to condemn attacking Venezuala"

    MSNBC had the biggest growth among cable news nets in January, up 75% in primetime and justification for its new tagline "the fastest-growing news channel."

    - TVNewser

    I just want to go on record-
    WHAT THE HELL DID YOU GUYS DO TO GRANNIE!

    Jane,

    Our taxes did go "sky-high" under Bush; what you and the rest of your ilk are too ignorant to realize is that these taxes are simply deferred. It's called a deficit. Stupid people don't mind it much...kinda like "rent to own"...

    Posted by: at January 31, 2007 10:27 AM


    Whoever you are, have you thought about that if we, consumers, have more money to spend, that helps business and then the economy, business earns revenue and pays taxes, that helps to reduce deficit.

    I don’t know about you, if you want to pay more taxes just because you want to reduce the deficit and forget about the economy. Pay more taxes, lees money to spend and save, that hurts the economy, ECON 101.

    Nixon, Reagan, Qualye (sp?), Cheney, Bush I, Bush II, Rumsfeld, Rice, Rove, Santorum, George Allen, Scalia, Justice Thomas, O'Reilly, Fox News in general, Trent Lott, Tony Snow- and on and on.

    Being hammered daily by Kennedy (I survived, Mary Joe didn't, Reid (i gave back the 1.5 mil) Hillary (Whitewater, Foster?, disgraced husband) Olbermann (a failed career, almost 50 never married, no kids, can't drive a friggin car), New York Times (retraction after retraction) - stock price at 5 year lows, anmd the Hollyweirds, Fonda (I'm as comfortable on a tank in North Vietnam as I am in the palaces in live in) Boxer (you have no children so you probably don't care) Murtha (inches away from taking a bribe) Kerry (as Imus said, just shut up), Edwartds (just how much does he make from his ambulance chasing lawsuits - nice home eh)

    Surreal

    JAMES-
    2007 MSNBC Tagline
    "We're Number Three!"

    Jane,

    It is common that most idiots who use the term "economy 101" have never taken an economy course. Certainly tax cuts will stimulate the economy, unless given mostly to the wealthy (as they were), but the debt is still there, earning interest for Bush's friends. I don't think that ANY self-respecting CPA would advise something who was deeply in debt to spend spend spend...

    But, maybe on your planet it is viable...

    Brain dead statement alert
    "Certainly tax cuts will stimulate the economy, unless given mostly to the wealthy (as they were)"

    The economy was stimulated as reported by ALL economists SO..... which of these two statements would you like to retract?

    To Anon (11:27):

    The economy was in the crapper under Bush, then slowly got better. Clinton accomplished the same thing, only he didn't give tax cuts to the wealthy and he DID pay down the deficit...

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    OLBERMANN FAN CLUB DISASTER ALERT! OLBERMANN FAN CLUB DISASTER ALERT!
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    Dear Olbermann fans

    A judicial travesty has occurred. Freedom fighter Cynthia Sommer has been found guilty of murdering a fascist baby killing American soldier! She must be freed! Write Olbermann and tell him to defend her, as well as the innocent Muslims accused of planning to behead the traiterous English soldier! More info on hero of the People Cynthia Sommer here:

    http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/wife-found-guilty-of-murdering-marine/20070130191709990001

    No argument, MSNBC has been miserable for years... and FNC has been much better at the marketing (course, if I draped myself in the American flag, insisting that if you don't watch then you're not patriotic - I'd get a lot of viewers, too.) But, you can't deny the trend. People have realized what a sham FNC is just as they've realized what a sham mister bush's administration is.

    I return to see that one of this site's resident Neanderthals 'BRICK' at 8:25, has once again embarrassed himself and everyone on his side with a virtual landslide of profanity laden insults (no less than 7), along with an additional barrage of at least 10 more traditional, but very demeaning personal insults, all within the same relatively short post.

    He also managed to resurrect the famous line from the Vietnam war era...."America, love it or leave it", but in his own quaint and colorful little way when he said "I voted for the President of the US and he runs the country, if you do not like it sir, get the "F" out!"

    Yes....he actually said that! The more things change, the more they stay the same...

    Now some of you on the lapdog side of the fence may actually be proud to have Einsteins such as 'BRICK' faithfully representing your viewpoint, but I'm just very glad that he's on YOUR side!

    Keep posting Brick....your really helping the Bush lapdog crowd a lot. LOL!

    Great reading for both left and right
    The scariest story of the year
    Posted by: Economist.com | NEW YORK

    HOW can it be that the New York Times relegates the most terrifying story of this young year to a single column’s width on yesterday’s front page—without attaching so much as a photo to get our blood pumping? The casual reader of “Smugglers’ Plot Highlights Fear Over Uranium” above the article’s Tbilisi dateline can be forgiven for missing the fact that this story should concern every reader, every New Yorker, every citizen of a big city or the civilised world, much more than anything else in this week’s news.

    Smuggling, schmuggling. The real story is not quite that “a Russian man with sunken cheeks and a wispy mustache”—his name, by the way, is “Oleg Khinsagov, a shabbily dressed 50-year-old trader who specialized in fish and sausages”—smuggled “100 grams of uranium so refined that it could help fuel an atom bomb” into Georgia. In a world of sane editorial judgments, the banner headline ought to scream that “MAN HAD 0.1 KILOGRAM OF BOMB-GRADE URANIUM”. The Times story goes on to recount in great and (in a way) interesting detail that Georgia’s breakaway regions are fine places to trade in all manner of contraband, including “illicit caviar, cheap light bulbs and smuggled gasoline”.

    As if we should care. The problem is not Georgia, nor the fact that a fishmonger named Oleg was carrying illegal goods across international borders. The problem is the uranium, which is highly enriched uranium (HEU), the substance most likely to end the world as we know it, and the fact that in today’s world it can end up in the hands of a person who has nothing better to do than to sell it. Oleg is said to have thought that he’d sell his sample, along with untold kilograms more, to “a Muslim man” from a “serious organisation”. Once such an Oleg has such stuff as HEU in his hands, I care not how he tries to bear it away from Mother Russia (Mother, it seems without a doubt in this case, of this bomb-in-the-making). Because that's the easiest thing in the world to do. Oleg got unlucky in Georgia, which is why we're reading about his story in the paper. The real, earth-shaking point of this news is that he got lucky enough to get his hands on these precious grams in the first place. The worries we devote to the likelihood that Iran will develop its own weapons-making capacity, or that North Korea has a big pile of plutonium all its own, are as nothing to the fact that there is unmonitored, commercial trade in HEU. And a grubby-sounding trade at that.

    With only 25kg of HEU, any halfway decent demolitions expert or DIYer with a basement and a welding torch can build a bomb that would kill thousands. A clever couple of grad students could lay waste to a city of millions (not by vaporising it, quite, but by blackening its centre with a radioactive hangover to last centuries). Since HEU is stable enough to carry by hand, transporting it across borders, into buildings or into graduate-quality labs is not a problem for anybody. Oh, and it doesn’t set off metal detectors or bomb-sniffing dogs either, should the enterprising smuggler feel like putting a few pounds in his pocket (it’s extremely dense stuff—you’d be surprised how many pounds you can cram into a small space). I suspect that if Oleg had been a more prosperous fishmonger, he might've flown from, say, Odessa to ... Karachi, Riyadh, London, Tel Aviv? With however many kg of HEU he and his suitcase can carry.

    This material came from Russia. It got into private hands. Good Georgian police work intercepted it. That's the happy coda, but somehow I find it a distraction.

    This story, however we are to construct its lede, is an important one. Yet more words on yesterday’s front page were devoted to the sub-standard new radio system the NYPD has declined to use.

    " Bill will be in his chair two years from now, Olbyloon will not"

    - I doubt either will be gone. Keith is MSNBC's top rated show and OR is too egotistical to be able to step down... unless he just gets too tired.

    - As for MSNBC in perpetual 3rd place. I'm a Red Wings fan. For years (and years), they couldn't make the playoffs. The 70's and 80's were two pretty rough decades. But, three Stanley Cups later, they are a perennial powerhouse. Go figure.

    >>The economy was stimulated as reported by ALL economists SO..... which of these two statements would you like to retract?

    "We were confronted at the time with an almost universal expectation amongst experts that we were dealing with a very large surplus for which there seemed to be no end," he said. "I look back and I would say to you, if confronted with the same evidence we had back then, I would recommend exactly what I recommended then. Turns out we were all wrong". Alan Greenspan

    Chicken blogger:
    You are muddying the waters-
    You stated that these 'tax cuts to the rich" could not stimulate the economy. Fact is- they DID stimulate the economy. Search for something that proves that wrong. You can't- so you won't.
    Bush lied! He's evil! Aaaahhhhhhhh

    The fact that "FNC has dominated the cable news ratings" is ONE the explanations for our Country having done something so incredibly stupid as to invade and occupy Iraq, so that's not exactly something to take pride in.

    Just like FNC dominates cable 'news', I'm pretty certain that "American Idol" kills Fox in the ratings as well...does that make 'Idol' better than the 'news'? Of course not, but it clearly shows what the priorities of too many Americans are....But is that anything to take pride in either?

    Mike- these same 'dummies' elected the Dems to the senate in '06. You can't have it both ways.

    Posted by Mikey:

    "I return to see that one of this site's resident Neanderthals 'BRICK' at 8:25"

    I know you don't want me here. I only come to this board once very 3-4 weeks unlike some joker like you with no personal life. You are either unemployed or you are sitting at your desk on company time stealing from your employer. And, I'd bet I'm a heap more smarter than your ignorant ass. Anytime I see a liberal say something I sit and think, "Damn, surely they don't believe someone would be chugging on that swill". Then I come to the realization it does work, look at you, O'Leilly and Codas. I look at who is on your side, Rosie, Mike Moore, Fonda, Sarandon, Penn just to name a few. None I'd lay with, gay or straight, none I'd drink a beer with or sit in a duck blind or tree stand not that some liberal like you would know anything about hunting, fishing or degreeing a cam on an engine. I'm sure you played with Barbie Dolls well into your teens because look at how you turned out.

    Resident. Don't make me laugh. I may have 30 posts on this board in the last 4 months. I came on here just to give you a dose of your own medicine and show the truth to a liberal. Yeah, liberals have trouble with the truth. There are people that stand for something and have faith in something unlike insecure, liberal bitches such as yourself. People like you never are part of anything. I've been on many problem solving teams at work and it's little whiners like you that drag a team down and prolong resolutions. We see it in every aspect of life. Any government run by liberals is screwed up. Take any big city with a liberal mayor and I'll show you one with a high crime rate, high corruption........

    I know what you are. You don't just have trouble with our government, you have trouble with life in general. Being liberal is being insecure. Get back in your sandbox and when President Bush and I get off work tonight we'll come by your house and snatch you away from looking at porn on your PC, I'll throw you in your sandbox and make you l ie down like a dog and stand back and watch President Bush straddle you and piss all over your head and I'll stand back and laugh as it runs down your forehead.

    Mike,
    Do you have a life? All you do is bitch and moan about everything in this country! Immigrate to France then if it's so miserable here!
    Also if it's so bad here why are Millions trying to come here. You're a paranoid delusional fool.
    Stop watching too much news and lsitening to Olbermann's rants!

    Ah Benson! He wants me to prove that Bush's tax cuts DIDN'T stimulate the economy. He is indeed a special kind of stupid. If I had asked him to prove that I didn't stimulate the economy, he could do that. I offered the words of Alan Greenspan, but apparently Benson doesn't know who that is. I offered the fact that Clinton DIDN'T cut taxes on the wealthy and our economy was great under him, but Benson still tries to stick with the stereotype of the ignorant neocon, bereft of logical thought...

    Quite sad, actually...

    "It was only a planned kidnapping of a single soldier, Mr. Bush -- and the kidnapping and beheading of one soldier does not constitute a causis beli."

    -------------

    You know, kind of like Saddam shooting at our no-fly zone planes.
    Or when a single North Korean soldier shoots across the DMZ and wacks some unlucky Pfc.
    Or when China forced down one of our spy planes and kept the plane but returned the crew.
    Or when the Soviets shot down Garry Powers' U2.

    You don't blunder an entire superpower into a ginned up, needless, trillion dollar war of choice over every single border skirmish. Pick your battles wisely, or you will lose most of them -- case in point: Iraq. But I realize that makes far too much common sense to the irrational right.

    Olby said,

    " You know Bill, I can buy two copys from Amazon for 25 bucks."

    I was just over at amazon and I found the cheapest you can find "Culture Warrior" at this time in the used dept. is $13.20 + 3.49 shipping.

    Hummmmmm!!! Let's follow along kids 13.20 + 3.49 is? Thats right class it's 16.69!!!! Times two it becomes? 33.38!!!! Now let's take 25 from 33.38 and we get? 8.38!!!!

    Hmmmmmmm! Theres a difference of $8.38?

    Lying again Olby?

    No not Keith and I will defend him!!!!!

    Can't beat O'Reilly

    Can't Drive

    Maybe in 28 days, can't keep a job.

    Can't keep a girlfriend.

    And now CAN'T ADD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Are you loons following the pied piper or the village idiot?

    "It was only a planned kidnapping of a single soldier, Mr. Bush -- and the kidnapping and beheading of one soldier does not constitute a causis beli."

    Same with the Iranian involvement in Iraq. As Keith and/or one of his guests said last night, there were plenty of Soviet and Chinese advisers in Vietnam killing Americans. That doesn't mean you attack the Soviet Union or China. Unless you're a dumbshit neocon, or someone who still supports their simplistic ideology.

    Now just to be fair to Olby. Cause you know I'm a fair and balanced guy.

    I think Olby was right! he was just talking about HIS book!!

    Yep there's one right now in the amazon used dept. for $10.99 and one for $12.69. Okay 10.99 + 12.69 thats..... $23.68!!!!

    But wait! 23.68 means you still have to pay for shipping? Okay $23.68 + 6.98 equals $30.66?

    There's still a difference of $5.66!!!!!!

    So Olby gives two of his books to the troops but, stiffs them on the shipping charge?

    Olby why do you hate the troops????????

    KEITH OLBERMANN todays Village Idiot? or Worst person in the world?

    We report, you decide!!!!!!

    Puck,

    One day you might develop some substance...

    But you forgot the chickenhawk wimper:
    "But they want to kill us all! They have madrasas! Their stated goal is to destroy America!"

    Yeah, well so did the Soviets.
    So did Chairman Mao.
    So did Castro.

    Okay I just checked amazon again.

    Okay two new copy's of "Culture Warrior" are $31.20 and thats with free shipping!!!!

    But wait!!!!! There's still a difference of $6.20?

    Where did Olby get these numbers from? EBONICS?

    Kurt Kissel---

    Reminder: This is www.olbermannwatch.com

    The British plot to hijack planes was real, not a "lie," as both you and Mr. Olbermann have claimed.
    I suspect that it is unlikely that there are terrorists either under your bed or in cloakroom (a word I haven't used since grade school), but I think that your vigilance is prudent.

    The point is NOT that there are boogeymen around every corner, but that when you DO, IN FACT, find a bad guy or group of guys, you recognize that fact. Denying the existence of a plot to kill Americans seems naive, unless one were, say, twiddling their thumbs somewhere out of harm's way and didn't give a shit.

    I just want to go on record-
    WHAT THE HELL DID YOU GUYS DO TO GRANNIE!

    Posted by: Benson at January 31, 2007 11:16 AM


    Grammie's out getting a heart transplant from a liberal donor. You know, like the Grinch. Hopefully the whole heart will make up for the half brain, and she'll be able to vote more responsibly next time.

    Okay! Okay! I think I've got it!!!!!

    There's one used Olby book for $10.99 and one thats somebody says is new (probably can't sell it in his store) for $12.69. $10.99 + $12.69 thats $23.69!!!!!!

    Plus $6.98 shipping is.........

    $30.67?????????

    That's it!!!!! I give up!!!!!

    'F' Olbymath and blackboard he wrote on!!!!!!!!!!

    Brick quotes (after all, we all need a laugh, don't we?):

    (1) - "I only come to this board once every 2 - 3 weeks, unlike some joker like you"; Funny, you were just here yesterday!

    (2) - "I know you don't want me here"; Of course I want you here, you make your side look more pathetic and ignorant with new every post you make!

    (3) - "I bet I'm a heap more smarter than your ignorant ass": I don't think that statement needs a response, just look at the quote!

    (4) - "you are either unemployed or you are sitting at your desk sealing time from your employer"; I guess you got me there...here I am sitting here stealing time from myself...or, as you put it, my 'employer'!

    (5) - "not that some liberal like you would know anything about hunting, fishing, or degreeing a cam on an engine"; Lets see now, (A) - I could tell you a few fishing stories,,,going back to my days with my 20' Grady White fishing boat, but your not worth the effort. (B) - I completely rebuilt the engine in my muscle car once, and have replaced cams several times...you can't hardly replace a cam without 'degreeing' it, now can you? (3) - But your right about one thing...this dog won't hunt!

    I could go on and on 'Brick', ole buddy, but you get the point (well, everybody else will, anyway).

    This is what happens when you try to stereotype people...you are invariably WRONG!

    Reminder: This is www.StormTrooperCircleJerk.com

    The point is that there are NOT boogeymen around every corner. Exaggerating the existence of a plot to kill Americans seems opportunistic, especially if one were twiddling their thumbs somewhere out of harm's way and didn't give a shit about exploiting the American public -- with fearmongering on one hand, and manufacturing needless, costly wars on the other.

    Genovese:

    What a ridiculous post at 11:51!

    Where did I say that it was so bad 'HERE'? I think you'll find most of my post refer to Iraq. Here is a news flash just for you Genovese; Iraq is not 'here'!

    The you ask "if I have a life" because I post here a lot? Actually, I have a life many would envy because I'm self employed and can work when I choose, and post (or whatever) when I choose.

    You people keep accusing us of 'moaning' about how 'bad things are here'. I never 'moan' at all, and I am well aware that this is a great country, but I want to keep it that way. The only way to keep America great is to keep trying to improve what is wrong...not sitting on your ass and staying complacent about what is still right about it!

    Is Grammie really getting a heart transplant? I saw another reference the other night saying "may she rest in peace". Can anyone tell me what is actually going on with her?

    Whatever it is, I wish her well. While she is misquided politically, she is clearly a good person.


    MALIKI: IRAQ WILL NOT BE BATTLEGROUND FOR U.S. AND IRAN

    -- Neocons Bummed Iraq Finally Figured It Out; White House to Swiftboat Maliki; Longs For Elected U.S. Figurehead --

    BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Iraq's prime minister said Wednesday he's sure Iran is behind some attacks on U.S. forces in Iraq and he won't allow his country to be a battleground for the two nations. "We have told the Iranians and the Americans, 'We know that you have a problem with each other, but we are asking you, please solve your problems outside Iraq,' " Nuri al-Maliki told CNN. "We will not accept Iran to use Iraq to attack the American forces," al-Maliki said Wednesday in an exclusive interview with CNN. "We don't want the American forces to take Iraq as a field to attack Iran or Syria," he added. Iranian-U.S. tensions have been ratcheted up recently, with two U.S. officials theorizing about the possibility that Iran was involved in a January 20 attack that killed five U.S. soldiers.


    Kurt Kissel---

    I guess I don't understand how mentioning the existance of a FACTUAL plot to kill Americans in 2-3 sentences of the SotU address, which stretched on over 50 minutes, constitutes "exaggeration," "fearmongering," or "lies."

    Really posted by?

    Show me where you can get two copy's of Culture Warrior for twenty five bucks on Amazon right now?

    Because thats what you're boy said he could do!!!

    Show me the substance of two copies of "Culture Warrior" for $25.00 on Amazon!!


    But you know what, why bother with posted not?
    He/She just showed another loon form of "SYMBOLISM OVER SUBSTANCE".

    It's not that Keith can't prove he can buy two copy's of "Culture Warrior" because I just proved you can't!!!

    But then Keith USED the troops to get his worthless obsession across.

    And as I can see by posted by's response he/she could'nt either.

    But whatever posted by hears from Keith he/she will follow no questions asked!!!!

    Like I said PB. Are you following the pied piper or the village idiot?

    Do some SUBSTANCE research on Amazon and find me two copy's of "Culture Warior" for $25.00!!!!

    Then you can tell me how O'Reilly is ripping off his viewers and the troops for a dollar.

    Oh, Here's a piece of substance for ya PB.

    Who's contract runs out in a little less than 28 days????????

    PB?? What's ya gona do? When you tune into to Countdown one night soon and see Alex Witt in the chair?

    Substance? I got your substance!!!!

    28 days to go!!!!!

    tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock

    Who's contract runs out in a little less than 28 days????????
    PB?? What's ya gona do? When you tune into to Countdown one night soon and see Alex Witt in the chair?
    Substance? I got your substance!!!!
    28 days to go!!!!!
    tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock tick tock

    StormTrooperCircleJerk.com, 2005: "Keith's Demise Is Imminent!"
    StormTrooperCircleJerk.com, 2006: "Keith's Demise Is Imminent!"
    StormTrooperCircleJerk.com, 2007: "Keith's Demise Is Imminent!"

    Is Grammie really getting a heart transplant? I saw another reference the other night saying "may she rest in peace". Can anyone tell me what is actually going on with her?

    Yeah, Grammie went in to get a heart valve or two replaced and didn't make it.
    Bad ticker, just like Cheney.
    Satan let her type one last OlbyWatch message before letting her in, just for kicks.
    So it turns out there is a Heaven and Hell,
    and there is a grey-haired vengeful god who watches us all masturbate and takes points off for it,
    each and every time, just like the irrational right feared.
    Bummer.
    But at least Grammie will be joined in Hell
    by all her political favorites from the Bush administration.

    anon,

    Step off, please. You're not very funny.

    Jane,

    It is common that most idiots who use the term "economy 101" have never taken an economy course. Certainly tax cuts will stimulate the economy, unless given mostly to the wealthy (as they were), but the debt is still there, earning interest for Bush's friends. I don't think that ANY self-respecting CPA would advise something who was deeply in debt to spend spend spend...

    But, maybe on your planet it is viable...

    Posted by: at January 31, 2007 11:22 AM

    Well, whoever you are again, I am neither in the middle class nor the wealthy range, but I get a refund check every year. I usually will spend a little bit more at this time of year for I am expecting a check in the mail. I make barely enough every month. And I also can claim my tuition that I paid last year. Further, I just get my W-2, my wages is less than what I make this year for I paid for my vision and disability insurance and my retirement. ECON 101 only teaches us theory, we cannot learn common sense from books.

    Anon is an ass... but moreso today

    Jane- don't bother...
    He's a 100% wrong about the tax cuts. He is a propaganda machine that blows it out only one way.


    US "VICTORY" AGAINST CULT WAS MASSACRE OF 263 RELIGIOUS PILGRIMS

    -- CentCom Response: War Is Hell ... Besides, My Lai Massacre Killed Over 400 ... So What's The Big Deal? --

    Baghdad, Iraq (UKIndependent) -- There are growing suspicions in Iraq that the official story of the battle outside Najaf between a messianic Iraqi cult and the Iraqi security forces supported by the US, in which 263 people were killed and 210 wounded, is a fabrication. The heavy casualties may be evidence of an unpremeditated massacre. A picture is beginning to emerge of a clash between an Iraqi Shia tribe on a pilgrimage to Najaf and an Iraqi army checkpoint that led the US to intervene with devastating effect. The story emerging on independent Iraqi websites and in Arabic newspapers is entirely different from the government's account of the battle with the so-called "Soldiers of Heaven", planning a raid on Najaf to kill Shia religious leaders. The cult denied it was involved in the fighting, saying it was a peaceful movement.


    READ:
    "....The cult denied it was involved in the fighting, saying it was a peaceful movement...."

    Enough said- anon believes the cult over our troops.
    He's and EVEN bigger ass than posted above!

    anon, Step off, please. You're not very funny.

    humor
    is in the eye of the beholder.
    apparently
    just like torture.

    Enough said -- anon believes the cult over our troops.

    why do you believe the cult, anon?
    cult believer!
    why do you hate our troops, anon?
    troop hater!
    why do you hate our america, anon?
    america hater!


    save your meaningless talking-point tripe for the faux noise fools like yourself who are dumb enough to believe it.

    Jane,

    What did your response have to do with the fact that a tax cut to the rich doesn't stimulate an economy? Perhaps you have A.D.D. and don't really remember what we were discussing.

    Perhaps it would be most helpful to remember that Alan Greenspan was against tax cuts, especially without cutting the budget. Last I heard, he was widely respected by both sides of the aisle.

    All Bush did was keep interest rates artificially low, which allowed the economy to progress in bubble fashion, as evidenced by the current real estate market...

    This is one of the most childish websites I've ever come across. The level of dialogue recalls elementary school.

    Stop me if you've heard this one ...

    -- Elections for the United States Senate were held on November 7, 2006. Democratic candidates defeated six Republican incumbents. No Democratic incumbents were defeated.

    -- Elections for the United States Senate will be held on November 4, 2008. Democrats possess the field advantage in 2008. They need only to defend 12 seats, while Republicans must defend 21.

    Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

    Iraq will be f---ed for years.
    And Americans will be paying for it for decades.
    Bush's war.
    Cheney's war.
    The GOP's war.
    Can you say a decade of democratic majority? In all three branches?

    Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

    (And spare me your well-conditioned, knee-jerk brain-dead retorts of "Political Gain From Dead American Troops Makes You Happy, Moonbat?!")

    f--- you, fascists.
    You reap what you sow.
    And your head-up-the-ass, sectarian-regressive, irrational-right party-of-god is f---ed, but good.
    And rightly so.
    In the marketplace of the marketplace, you're toast.
    Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of fascists.
    Thanks for playing.

    a--hole!

    "f--- you, fascists.
    You reap what you sow.
    And your head-up-the-ass, sectarian-regressive, irrational-right party-of-god is f---ed, but good.
    And rightly so.
    In the marketplace of the marketplace, you're toast.
    Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of fascists.
    Thanks for playing."

    HA!


    BUBBLE BOY GEORGE VISITS WALL STREET TO DISTRACT FROM IRAQ

    -- Corporate-Shill-In-Chief Lip Serves Exorbitant CEO Salaries --

    -- Forgets That Middle America Resents Grand-Oil-Party`s Tax Cuts For Rich, Corporations --

    NEW YORK (AP) -- President Bush took aim Wednesday at lavish salaries and bonuses for corporate executives, standing on Wall Street to issue a sharp warning for corporate boards to "step up to their responsibilities" and tie compensation packages to performance. Bush's "State of the Economy" speech, delivered from the financial center of the world, was aimed at bringing his economic message out of the shadows of the Iraq war. On his second day in a row focused on the economy, the government reported faster-than-expected growth of 3.5 percent in the final quarter of last year.


    A "State of the Economy" speech barely one week after a "State of the Union" speech? Gee, how transparent can you get. Oh, I forgot. Derisive of nuance, insight, and intelligence, the irrational right doesn't get the transparency thing ... they can clearly see the emperor's new clothes -- on accounta it's worn in lieu of adequate body armor.

    Jane,

    What did your response have to do with the fact that a tax cut to the rich doesn't stimulate an economy? Perhaps you have A.D.D. and don't really remember what we were discussing.

    Perhaps it would be most helpful to remember that Alan Greenspan was against tax cuts, especially without cutting the budget. Last I heard, he was widely respected by both sides of the aisle.

    All Bush did was keep interest rates artificially low, which allowed the economy to progress in bubble fashion, as evidenced by the current real estate market...

    Posted by: at January 31, 2007 2:31 PM

    You sound like you were KO, full of insults and hates of the present administration and our President. This kind of issue will keep our argument going on forever. I sincerely hope you will let us know ho you are and keep your arguments friendly. No wonder you are his fan, same.

    Like KO, is asking for evidence, gives me a good reason why our economy is running so good right now, it is what you call “artificial interest rates”? I sincerely hope interest rate is the only issue here, then we do not need to study Economic.

    I am going to get my refund a little bit more than last year. By the way, Alan Greenspan did not disagree entirely on tax cut. The beauty of economy keeps changing every single second, that is why we need someone like Alan Greenspan to keep track of a lot of stuff to control the economy, not just interest rates and tax cuts.

    In my opinion, the Federal Reserve chairman is the most powerful on earth, without an economy running, we do not have lives here.

    I am done with this discussion.

    At this point, the economy is the only "positive" note this white house has to play.
    And that's iffy, at best.
    What ever will the GOP run on in 2008?

    Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha!

    What ever will the GOP run on in 2008?

    I say

    We'll start with the 40% that say they would never vote for Hillary and try to get another 10%. Start gloating now a--hole. I see a gloomy 2008 for you.
    WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    You do sound like you were KO, childish. Grow up.

    US "VICTORY" AGAINST CULT WAS MASSACRE OF 263 RELIGIOUS PILGRIMS

    -- CentCom Response: War Is Hell ... Besides, My Lai Massacre Killed Over 400 ... So What's The Big Deal? --

    Baghdad, Iraq (UKIndependent) -- There are growing suspicions in Iraq that the official story of the battle outside Najaf between a messianic Iraqi cult and the Iraqi security forces supported by the US, in which 263 people were killed and 210 wounded, is a fabrication. The heavy casualties may be evidence of an unpremeditated massacre. A picture is beginning to emerge of a clash between an Iraqi Shia tribe on a pilgrimage to Najaf and an Iraqi army checkpoint that led the US to intervene with devastating effect. The story emerging on independent Iraqi websites and in Arabic newspapers is entirely different from the government's account of the battle with the so-called "Soldiers of Heaven", planning a raid on Najaf to kill Shia religious leaders. The cult denied it was involved in the fighting, saying it was a peaceful movement.


    Posted by: at January 31, 2007 2:01 PM



    US, Iraqi troops kill hundreds in daylong fight

    By Louise Roug and Borzou Daragahi, Los Angeles Times | January 29, 2007

    BAGHDAD -- Iraqi and American forces killed several hundred fighters apparently trying to ambush religious pilgrims in the holy city of Najaf , during a day long battle yesterday in which a US helicopter crashed, killing two US troops, Iraqi security officials said

    Iraqi security forces took authority over Najaf's security about a month ago. But witnesses and security officials said yesterday that Iraqi forces were being beaten by the enigmatic but well-organized fighters until US forces and air support arrived.

    Iraqi security forces struck at dawn but were overwhelmed by the militants, who had dug trenches . At least two Iraqi soldiers were killed in the initial fighting, a security official in Baghdad said.

    Iraqi forces then called in US air support and the Scorpion Brigades, an Iraqi quick-reaction force based in a neighboring province.

    Helicopters arrived, but after one crashed about 1:30 p.m., they were replaced by higher-flying jets, as American Humvees and armored vehicles rolled into the area.

    'Three more Iraqi soldiers were killed, as were at least 250 of the fighters, according to several Iraqi officials. Those numbers could not be independently confirmed. By 4 p.m., the tide of the battle had shifted, but US forces continued bombing into the night in an attempt to stamp out remnants of the militants, Iraqi officials and witnesses said. "

    Wow a day long battle with a " peaceful movement " who overwhelmed the Iraqi forces and dug trenches. And Iraqi forces were being beaten until they called the U.S. for troops and air support. Yeah , I can see where you might think this was suspicious.

    Enough of this nasty talk I say enough cause its rude & offensive & just cause youre gonna burn for all eternity in the pits doesnt mean you ought to feel free to make us all so discomforted.

    f--- you, Rudy.
    Self-righteous torture-advocates being discomforted by nasty words.
    Ain't that a bitch?
    Go rendition somebody for Jesus, you little twit.

    Anon, they can't deal with this many truths flying at them all at once. I say keep on my friend. You're on fire!

    (1) Wow a day long battle with a "peaceful movement " who overwhelmed the Iraqi forces and dug trenches. And Iraqi forces were being beaten until they called the U.S. for troops and air support. Yeah , I can see where you might think this was suspicious.

    (2) The story emerging on independent Iraqi websites and in Arabic newspapers is entirely different from the government's account of the battle with the so-called "Soldiers of Heaven", planning a raid on Najaf to kill Shia religious leaders.

    ------------

    gee, that's a tough one. who to believe?
    the Iraq-Has-WMDs-Cakewalk-War-Abu-Ghraib-Torture-Is-Good-Shinseki-Was-Wrong-Things-Are-Going-Swell-In-Iraq crowd,
    or the other guys?
    gee, that's a tough one.

    This "Rudy Ramirez" character CAN'T be for real? Somebody tell me this guy is just putting on, because NOBODY could possibly be that naive...and then string endless sentences on and on like that at the same time! Could they?

    Yes, indeed, Najaf is shaping up to be yet another Dubya lie. I know I am shocked, and I am sure you are as well.

    So let me get this straight .You believe a " peaceful movement " can last a day in a battle with an army. Who then has to call in for more troops and air strikes.There are witnesses and the LA TIMES reported this, not INSIGHT magazine. I would think just by using common sense that the battle would have lasted 10 minutes And would not need any more troops or air support . Especially if it was an ambush. But I should have known you would never take the side of the evil George Bush. They just wanted to slaughter some people cause it was so easy. Look I see both sides to the war but saying you believe Iraqi websites and arab papers over a lefty US paper gives credence to the right's claim you dont want us to win. If you question something this obvious theres no point showing you.

    Kurt Kissel:

    Classic comment!!!
    The dust has yet to settle on this incident, and what went down is very much up in the air right now. (Unless, of course, you have access to multiply-positioned web-feeding cameras strategically placed throughout the battlefield, with satellite connections. In which case, your viewpoint is greatly apprectiated.)
    But WHATEVER happened, somehow a "Dubya lie" was a central factor.

    Maybe time will show I was precipitous, Mr. Dempsey, but in my experience Dubya has more big lies than Carter does little pills. If you assume Bush is lying, you are virtually always correct.

    Two stories you won't see on Countdown tonight:

    FIRST STORY:

    WASHINGTON (AFX) - The US economy grew at its fastest pace in two years in the last quarter of 2006, while a key measure of inflation fell for the first time in 45 years, the Commerce Department said today.

    The department estimated the economy grew at a 3.5 pct annualised rate between October and December, faster than the 3.0 pct economists had expected and faster than the 2.0 pct growth in the third quarter.

    The latest rise is the fastest pace since the first quarter, when the economy recorded 5.6 pct annualised growth.

    For the full year 2006, the economy grew by 3.4 pct, the fastest pace since 2004. In 2005, GDP rose by 3.2 pct.

    On a year-on-year basis, the economy also grew at a 3.4 pct pace in 2006, compared to 3.1 pct in 2005.

    Inflation, as measured by the PCE price index, fell 0.8 pct in the fourth quarter, the first decline since 1961. The decline is the sharpest since 1954. The PCE price index rose 2.4 pct in the third quarter.

    The Fed's preferred measure of inflation, the core PCE price index, which excludes volatile food and energy prices, rose 2.1 pct in the quarter, down slightly from the 2.2 pct rise in the prior quarter.

    Over the past 12 months, the core PCE price index has risen 2.3 pct, sharper than the 2.1 pct fourth quarter over fourth quarter figure in 2005.

    For all of 2006, the core PCE price index increased 2.2 pct, up from the 2.1 pct average increase in 2005.

    The overall PCE price index rose a revised 2.4 pct in the quarter, down slightly from the 2.5 pct estimated last month and sharply down from the prior quarter's 4.0 pct increase.

    Consumer spending, which accounts for as much as two-thirds of the economy, rose 4.4 pct in the fourth quarter, compared to the 2.8 pct increase in the prior three month period. That's the sharpest increase since the first quarter.

    Final sales rose 4.2 pct in the last three months of the year, sharper than the 1.9 pct rise in the third quarter.

    BIRMINGHAM, England -- Police in Britain said they've broken up a terrorist plot involving suspects reportedly intending to kidnap a British Muslim soldier and cut his head off.
    Authorities aren't disclosing details but said they arrested eight suspects in a series of raids this morning in Birmingham. Sky News reports the intended victim is in protective custody.

    Sky News said the plotters intended to show the beheading on the Internet, comparing it to an "Iraq-style" execution.

    Counterterrorism sources told The Associated Press the plot is the first of its kind uncovered in Britain.

    Birmingham is the hometown of a British corporal who was killed in Afghanistan last year. He was Britain's first Muslim soldier to die in the war, and militant Web sites denounced him as a traitor.

    I'm sure Kurt and Bob will say both of these stories are just another "Bish lie".


    No, I don't think Kurt and Bob will call those stories another "Bish lie" at all!

    They'll call it a "Bush lie", however...

    "The US economy grew at its fastest pace in two years in the last quarter of 2006, while a key measure of inflation fell for the first time in 45 years, the Commerce Department said today."

    Great, wonderful. But this is not one rising tide that will lift all the boats:

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2007/01/pdf/sotu_paper.pdf

    - Job growth from 2001-present has averaged a measly 0.5% per month, the worst for any business cycle since the Great Depression.

    - Since the conclusion of the most recent recession in November 2001 the average growth in jobs has been 85,000 per month, the worst growth rate for any post-recession recovery rate since World War II.

    - The average length someone is on unemployment is now 17.5 weeks, the highest it has been since World War II. Workers who have been looking for a job longer than 27 weeks hit the highest percentage ever recorded (18.8%).

    - The employment rate DECREASED by 0.16%, marking the first time in a half-century that the number of job opportunities DROPPED.

    - Adjusting for inflation, real hourly wages rose by just 0.5%, while business sector productivity over the same period increased 3.1%.

    - Prices for the five klargest "consumption items" - medical care, food, housing, household operation and cars - grew more than twice as fast as they did for the five smallest consumption items.

    - College costs have increased by 40%, with students attending college carrying 50% more debt than their predecessors just a generation ago.

    - The ratio of household debt to disposable income rose to a record of 130.9%

    - For the first time since the 1930's, the personal saving rate was a negative number (-1.2%) in 3Q 2005, the sixth quarter in a row this number was a negative.

    Nice cut and paste from a decidedly liberal website, EE. So I guess you think that 4.5% unemployment is a bad thing? If a Democrat was in office, I have a feeling you'd be boasting about a booming economy. And I see you have nothing to say (or paste) about the British twarting another terror plot (yes, one did exist over the summer and planes would have been hijacked).

    The British were "twarting another terror plot"?

    Whats "twarting"?

    Hello
    How are you?

    We're fine. Now fuck off. We're trying to rake Olbermann over the coals here for comparing his fellow journalists, real journalists, to Nazis, the KKK, and the Osama Bin Laden Crew.

    ^ too funny!