That has to be a toup.

Larry how many people must pass him by now and not look at him but look at the top of his head!

LOL!

Its official- Keith is a big a--hole. They cued up almost every break so I could break over to Oreilley and watch them both. Great thanks. The left can have Keith. Righties take Oreilley. It aint even close! Content and relevant news- Oreilley bitch slaps him every time. Can we make the libby trial one of the top news stories of the day - every day?

70% growth in ratings still means 1/3 the OReilley audience almost every night. And if you watch them back-to-back Keith the Freak has nothing! Thats right bushiekill- nothing! Check the ratings!

And when NBC calls our troops mercenaries, yet they still proclaim to support these same troops I have no patience for you Olbyloons. High school rules apply today- actions speak louder than words! You are an anti-american network and your apologists only support the fact.

And next time you visit Rockefeller Center, look for the big yellow hole in the center of the ice rink. I am going to personally piss in the ice my cursive declaration- "USA is #1" so all can see.
NBC you suck.

HypOlbcrisy

When will Krazy Keith name a terrorist or terrorist organization to his WPITW list????
Thats ALL you need to know about the Leftys!!!

Leftys claim Bush is the worst terrorist in the world.

Bill O has done so much to push Jessica's Law and go after child predators in general. I never see that jack ass KO do anything for the kids in need. But ONE theory that Bill got wrong and of course, jack ass jumps all over it. By the way blasting Rudy every night is going to go over real well in New York. Of course his usual jealousy of Fox News was too much and Rudy's interview got him on the worst list. So predictable.

After listening to Rudy's interview last night it seems that normal Dems might actually like the guy. But since he has a "R" instead of a "D" in front of his name The WAY-FAR lefty freaks like KO will hate him. OH WAIT!!!! I forgot, Olbermann is NOT politically biased.

Well, Johnny $$, I've gotta hand it to ya, you're the coolest 7th grader in your mom's basement.

You got NOTHING, dude. . ."OOH!! K.O.'s got a little weiner".

Get your nose out of Bill Orally's butt long enough to go to the mailbox and pick up the check from him and FatAss (Ailes).

If you're as smart and witty as you claim to be, WHY THE f--- DON'T YOU HAVE YOUR OWN T.V. SHOW, ASSHAT!!!

WORST

f---ING

WEBSITE

ON

ALL

OF

THE

INTERNETS!!!!

NBC you suck.

Posted by: Benson at February 6, 2007 9:20 PM

The idiot Benson is aligning himself with that other idiot OReilly in their WAR ON MSNBC.

let's shoot the messinger. Then maybe we can control the news, and then MAYBE, MAYBE the War in Iraq will be a glorious success, and George Bsuh will be a competent leader.

Damn media !

Keith is on TV and Mr. Levin is reduced to peddling tabloid trash on Zombie radio were he belongs, in the garbage.

The media is getting in the way of the GOP New World Order.One small problem. No one wants to go along with it except the delusional neo-cons.

Its official- benson is a big a--hole.

Hey, what the heck happend to the OW ticker that predicted when Keith's contract was going to expire and he'd be fired? Hmmm,,,wonder why you don't post it anymore...??????????????

The Great Leak Case had a "milestone day", said Oralmann. Tapes of grand jury testimony were played. Of course this means Slippery Shuster makes another worthless appearance.

Yeah Johnny Dollar. Let's not have ANYONE report on the trial.
Makes your boys,(the Republicans) look bad, with that little lying and perjury charge.
I guess no matter who Keith or Chris M. had reporting on this trial , you'd label him some dumb name like "Slippery".

It will be fun to hear Olbermann make Rudy the worst person every night for 8 years. Oh wait, Olbermann won't be around in a year, let alone for the 8 years Rudy is president. Maybe ESPN 8 the OCHO will let Olbermann do his Worst Person stunt.

Hey, what the heck happend to the OW ticker that predicted when Keith's contract was going to expire and he'd be fired? Hmmm,,,wonder why you don't post it anymore...??????????????

Posted by: popvulture at February 6, 2007 9:45 PM

Some classless act called PUCK stumbles on here from the drunk tank from time to time counting down the days,as if MSNBC will give Keith the boot.

Only makes Puck look like a bigger jerk than he already is.

let alone for the 8 years Rudy is president.

Posted by: The Factor at February 6, 2007 9:50 PM

Like Guilani has a snowball's chance in hell of winning the nomination with his divorces and pro choice stance.
The Christian right will throw him to the wolves.
The Factor has his head up his ass as usual.

70% of Americans want us out of this war. They will elect the nominee that speaks of their wishes.

tHE GOP candidate will be for Bush's War.

They have no chance to win !

> I guess no matter who Keith or Chris M. had reporting on this trial , you'd label him some dumb name like "Slippery".

No, only Shuster gets to be called Slippery. He's the one who doctored a video to make it more favorable to the Democrats. He's the one who lied about what was in the NIE. He's the one who insisted Karl Rove would be indicted. And there's a lot more where that came from.

Considering how unreliable and disreputable he is, "Slippery" is probably a compliment.

> Hey, what the heck happend to the OW ticker that predicted when Keith's contract was going to expire and he'd be fired? Hmmm,,,wonder why you don't post it anymore...??????????????

Hey, Einstein, the KO Kontract Kountdown Klock is in the same place it's always been. As I type this it says 22 days, 2 hours, 2 minutes.

Really it doesn't matter who the republicans nominate. No one will vote for Hillary. How about Newt, Bushkill? That will be a fun day. Post your suicide note before you go. Everyone likes a laugh.

NBC "News" has lowered the bar
Reporting that's really sub-par
Their leftward leaning
Political meaning
Will taint and leave a permanent scar

Hey, did you see that???? Pigs CAN fly. In your dreams 25 cents x 4!

KO reality check...

CABLE NEWS RACE
MONDAY, FEB 5, 2007
VIEWERS

FOXNEWS O'REILLY 2,579,000
FNC HANNITY/COLMES 1,852,000
FNC GRETA 1,572,000
FNC SHEP SMITH 1,390,000
FNC HUME 1,297,000
CNN DOBBS 818,000
CNN BLITZER 675,000
CNN COOPER 636,000
CNN KING 624,000
MSNBC OLBERMANN 610,000
CNNHN GRACE 476,000
CNN ZAHN 451,000

610K and growing...eeeeewwwww ! How scary it must be!

Levin's radio audience is larger than KO's television audience. Now the Olbyloons and cult members will descend and tell us ratings don't matter.

Didn't the decrepit old Phil Donahue get better ratings than Olbermann? I think O'Reilly had Donahue on after he got shit canned for this loser because O'Reilly didn't understand why they would shit can some old kook liberal for this Olbermann, when Donahue got better ratings. At least Donahue was honest about what he was.

2.5 MILLION BRAIN WASHED ZOMBIES WATCH FAUX NEWS. HAVE TO STAY CONNECTED TO THE MOTHER SHIP OR THEY WILL LOOSE THAT LAST GRAM OF CEREBRAL FLUID. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO BUSH, HE MISSED A DAY.

Rosie (Bushkill) says,

"The Christian right will throw [Giuliani] to the wolves.

###
A BIG bet.....No I (or they) won't, Rosie.

And that's what REALLY annoys and scares you! He He He.

Just like I (isn't it the holy cee) voted for the liberal (but GREAT, principled guy) JOSEPH LIEBERMAN....

Rudy in '08!

cee (Curly)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

As predicted, the "ratings don't matter" contingent has indeed landed at OWatch. So why do they and Olbermann keep trash-talking about their beloved "demo ratings"?

2.5 MILLION BRAIN WASHED ZOMBIES WATCH FAUX NEWS. HAVE TO STAY CONNECTED TO THE MOTHER SHIP OR THEY WILL LOOSE THAT LAST GRAM OF CEREBRAL FLUID. THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO BUSH, HE MISSED A DAY.

Posted by: at February 6, 2007 10:22 PM

Hey douche bag,

Grams are an increment used to measure mass. If you are talking about the volume of fluid, I think you need to use an increment of liters.

cee,

There it is. Kerry and Obama threw the gauntlet down at McConnell's feet. Now, will the Republicans have the STONES to pick it up?

He is using new liberal math. 1 + 1 = what ever makes you feel impowered.

Benson laments about how KO covers the Libby trial every day and O'Reilly didn't.

Did you also lament about how often O'Reilly carried the Duke rape case and KO hardly ever did?

Lets see now, which of these two cases was more important? 1) - Duke rape case... a local case involving a few college students and a prostitude, along with a roque local DA. 2) - Libby case... involves high level officials going right to the top of our government and has HUGE implications about how we got led into this war, which has now consumed over 3000 American lives, and no telling how many more.

OK Benson; once again now - which one of these cases was actually important, and which one was nothing but fluff?

Thats one of the problem with O'Reilly. He spends so much time with fluff stories that have no real national importance....but I guess his audience loves fluff, and that probably explains his ratings.

I don't know about you, but I want the Libby trial to stay front and center EVERY day!

O'Reilly has two things Olbermann will never have. 1. Huge ratings. 2. A huge schlong.

EE...

The question really is...Will Reid, Clinton and the rest of those powerful Democrats actually stop funding the troops?

Toothless resolutions will NOT save one soldier's life.....Stopping Bush by any constitutional means necessary will....

I'm still waiting.....

cee (Curly)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Mike,

Let me solve it for you. Richard Armitage did it. He confessed. And he had a lame ass excuse, basically claiming to be a dingbat or something. Case closed!

Mrs. 'Lewinsky' says; "O'Reilly has a huge schlong".

Two questions about you and your post. 1) - how the hell would you know?, & 2) - Does mental illness run in your family, or are you just an isolated case?

Rico:

I'm glad to see your the only one in America who has this all figured out.

Mike,

That was a great "no content" answer. Hold it-didn't you just accuse somebody else of that?

Mike, how often does, ABC, CBS, and CNN cover the Libby trial? Try never. There is no story there. The only one who covers this joke is moonbat Keith. He is praying it turns into something.

Factor:

Sorry but I disagree STRONGLY. It is at the very heart of how this administration went after it's critics, and their fanatical push to sell this sorry war any and every way they possibly could.

Mike, Bill O's schlong size would probably never have come up, except for Keefs constant referencing of the "falafel incident". Go to smokinggun.com and read the transcript. Oh, and I hope you don't feel a bit insecure afterwards.
We know the part about ratings was true. HA!

"CALLING ALL ZOMBIES, CALLING ALL ZOMBIES, PLEASE REPORT TO THE MOTHER SHIP, BILL ORALLY NEEDS YOU, HE LOVES YOU, HE NEEDS YOUR MONEY, BUY HIS BOOKS!"

What happened to the great constitutional lawyer and noted talk show host? Reduced to peddling smut! Geeeee.....

What happened to the great constitutional lawyer and noted talk show host? Reduced to peddling smut! Geeeee.....

Posted by: Nan at February 6, 2007 11:15 PM

Pot meet kettle!

When O'Reilly was sued for sexual harassment by his former producer, Andrea Mackris, Olbermann urged Mackris to take a payout of $99,000 (US) in exchange for the tape of a phone call

Keith is so obsessed with Bill O'Reilly, he masturbates to podcasts of "The Factor".

And how many jokes has Olbermann made about viagra even though he himself is allegedly a consumer of the same product?

FOR GOSH'S SAKES OLBERMANN THOSE POOR SOLDIERS MADE A MISTAKE IN KILLING THOSE BRITISH SOLDIERS!

WAR SUCKS...BUT SOMETIMES YOU'VE GOT TO FIGHT EVIL LIKE THE ISLAMO-FASCISTS.

AND IN WAR THERE ARE MISTAKES...AND FRIENDLY FIRE...IT'S HORRIBLE!

THE PILOTS THEMSELVES SAY ON THE TAPE THAT THEY REGRET WHAT HAD HAPPENED...HE WAS CRYING FOR PETE'S SAKES...BUT NOOOOO...YOU IN THE MEDIA LOVE TO SAY YOU SUPPORT OUR TROOPS THEN YOU WANT TO CRUCIFY THEM AND MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE MURDERERS!!!

SHOULD THE PILOTS BE PUNISHED FOR THE FRIENDLY FIRE? YES...BUT NOT SENTANCED TO DEATH...IT WAS AN ACCIDENT!

I'M SURE THEY'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO APPOLOGIZE TO THE BRITISH SOLDIERS FAMILIES.

"I'M SURE THEY'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO APPOLOGIZE TO THE BRITISH SOLDIERS FAMILIES."

An apology is not going to cut it. Yes, they made a mistake, but they were derelict in their duty and that dereliction led directly to someone's death.

They (and the flight controller on the ground) should have been court-martialed for involuntary manslaughter under Article 119 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice - culpable negligence (recklessly acting without reasonable caution) causing death. Instead, the military swept it all under the rug...AGAIN!

I'm not an overly huge fan of the self congratulatory Bill O'reilly, but Olberfrau's desperate infatuation with his would be rival is sad,tragic and well..just plain funny.

From infantile boasting of how he stalked O'reilly at a yankees game some time ago to calling O'reilly a Michael Devlin sympathizer(way to exploit a tragedy for your own ends Keithy-boy), Ubermann has crossed the boundary of sanity.
I had to chuckle when he daydreamed aloud O'reilly wanting to drive 900 miles to beat him up. Like the pathetic fat kid in Jr. High who blurts out fart jokes in the middle of science class for some kind of attention, ANY kind of attention, he just doesn't get it. Poor dullwitted Keith is incapable of creating something worthy on his own, so he blindly attacks and attempts to destroy the competition(no matter how mediocre it may be). I suppose this is why I'm one of the pathetic few that watch Countdown, for the freakish one man cockfight aspect of it all. May God forgive me. :-D

O'Reilly's feet need to kept to the fire for placing the blame on the long confinememnt of Shawn Hornbeckom thw boy himself. That was a despicable thing to say even for O'Reilly

Mike said " Libby case... involves high level officials going right to the top of our government and has HUGE implications about how we got led into this war, which has now consumed over 3000 American lives, and no telling how many more. " and " Sorry but I disagree STRONGLY. It is at the very heart of how this administration went after it's critics, and their fanatical push to sell this sorry war any and every way they possibly could

Sorry Mike but I think your watching too much Chris Matthews. I too, am very interested in this case and want it covered everyday. But my reason is to show how the media let their bias get in the way of the truth. When I first heard about it I was on your side. But then learning more from a lot of info on the web I began to turn around. At first I heard Cheney wanted to teach Joe Wilson a lesson. He wanted his aide to leak that JW had a wife in the CIA who sent him to Africa .Wilson shot back that the WH outed his wife to punish him. The media went right along with Joey .This later got a special prosecutor involved. While this was going on I started to wonder why Cheney ,who may be evil as the left claim ,was still an intelligent fellow and this seemed childish. When FIitzgerald finally came back and stated there was no crime but perjury may have been commited I really started to dig more.

Anyway I found that Cheney did not ask for Wilson to be sent to Africa as Wilson made it sound. Or as Chris Matthews put it " at the behest ". Wilson's wife DID recommend him for the trip. I also found Wilson had never debunked the president's speech. It now seemed Cheney had every right to expose this. The media knew this also but continued to look at it from Wilson's view and many more conspiracies emerged.It was a frenzy. David Shuster had Karl Rove locked up. There was no question about it. Matthews was drooling over this daily. Wilson was now being exposed for many of the lies in his NYT piece but the press said nothing. When the leaker was finally made public the stories stopped . Chris Matthews was asked why and his response was the story is now " to complicated ". Well I guess they needed a little time out to fit the facts to their WH cover-up theories.

The trial finally comes and Cheney may be called as a witness. Again the theories fly. Still nothing on Wilson. All the updates are pro prosecutor nothing on the defense's cross. From what I have read on the real story Miller was bad, Cooper was worse ,and the FBI agent Bond looked bad. Ari was good and others fine. Matthews like yourself think that somehow they will find out about the reason for us going to war. What a pipe dream.Cheney may not testify but even if he does you think Fitz is gonna get Cheney to pull a Jack Nicholson and claim he cant handle the truth ? Unlike Watergate there is no crime in the background. Wilson has proven to be a liar. Shuster gave 2 reasons why he thought the VP may not testify. The 3rd and most obvious was they might not need him. KO and Matthews have covered this all one way and it may blow up on them. A guest on Hardball was asked by Chris who would look the worst in all this ? Chris was frozen when he said the " media ".

My take is that the WORST that happens is Libby is found guilty and nothing else uncovered. The media still harps about a cover-up and ignores the time and money spent to catch a guy playing politics.

Now you may say I am bias and this is from right wing blogs. Well here are some facts I dug up. This is from Joe Wilson himself. �I never claimed to have �debunked� the allegation that Iraq was seeking uranium from Africa,� Wilson says. But he calls the allegation a �lie� all through his overstated book.

This is from the NYP " It follows that one of the most sensational charges leveled against the Bush White House -- that it orchestrated the leak of Ms. Plame's identity to ruin her career and thus punish Mr. Wilson -- is untrue. The partisan clamor that followed the raising of that allegation by Mr. Wilson in the summer of 2003 led to the appointment of a special prosecutor, a costly and prolonged investigation, and the indictment of Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, on charges of perjury. All of that might have been avoided had Mr. Armitage's identity been known three years ago". " it now appears that the person most responsible for the end of Ms. Plame's CIA career is Mr. Wilson. Mr. Wilson chose to go public with an explosive charge, claiming -- falsely, as it turned out -- that he had debunked reports of Iraqi uranium-shopping in Niger and that his report had circulated to senior administration officials. He ought to have expected that both those officials and journalists such as Mr. Novak would ask why a retired ambassador would have been sent on such a mission and that the answer would point to his wife. He diverted responsibility from himself and his false charges by claiming that President Bush's closest aides had engaged in an illegal conspiracy. It's unfortunate that so many people took him seriously".

It appears as you are one who takes him seriously. Tell me what you think will happen. How and who do you think they are going to get to show deception on the part of the WH ? Were you aware that Wilson was also a part of the Kerry campaign in 03 ? This was all about the 16 words used by GWB in his speech. Did you know the British government still stands by those words ? So where did Wilson debunk anything ? Gee Mike, just look at this objectively. Cheney reads a NYT article about him sending someone to Africa that casts doubt on the president's speech. Cheney wants to know who he is and who sent him. He finds it's the CIA and Wilson with a request from his wife. If Cheney wasn't evil as you may think or if someone else was in that spot what do you think they would do ? Cheney knew the wife wasn't covert . A senate commitee found no lies in Bush's speech . Now look at Wilson. He was a nobody. If he knew his wife was covert why did he go public ? He has been caught lying. Whats up with the Kerry connection ? Looking at both sides which is more plausible ?

Another thing. Why do the Plame's not want to testify in the Libby trial ?They give the bogus excuse that it may hurt their civil case. I would think a conviction with their testimony would help their civil case. I think they sued just so they had an excuse not to testify. Not to mention making themselves appear as victims which would make the media sympothetic to them. Heck, Libby got them on the cover of Vanity Fair and Joey a book . He made them stars. Oh well just a thought.

I love it when I attack KeithO and get personally attacked for doing it from whackos like noname and BushyK. Your demigod KeithO is no one to revere, but you attack with vigor all those that dare to call him out. I can't wait when his demise comes, and I sense it is near. He is an a--hole!

HELLO FOLKS...WELCOME TO THE MARK LEVIN SHOW..THE HOTTEST TABLOID SHOW ON THE EAST COAST. TODAY, WE WILL BE PLAYING "TROLLING FOR BIMBOS" AND DISCUSSING THE SEX LIVES OF OUT CRITICS. SUCH A GREAT DAY! OR I COULD JUST GO INTO REHAB AND WRITE A BOOK ON HOW WE USED PAULA JONES AND DISGARDED HER LIKE TRASH WHEN WE HAD NO USE FOR HER. WELL, I'LL JUST KEEP TROLLING FOR BIMBOS. TIME FOR A BREAK.

hey Olbershit-

how many times do you masturbate that little pecker of yours when you see Bill's ratings in the 2-2.5 million viewers range per night?

I just love the faux-outrage of the Olby-cult member. Olbermann makes fun of people's personal lives in every single episode of Countdown but somehow, you Keith cult-members seem to think that he should be exempt from such discussions. I know this is going to come as a shock to you who worship him, but he's not a God who is above criticism. He deserves every bit of below-the-belt shots he can get if he's going to dish it out on a nightly basis to others.

The thing that killed me about last nights show is the first question out of olbermanns mouth regarding the astronut who went heywire was did NASA FAIL? Olbermann is another blame America HACK on every issue that comes down the pipe as we all know but this one really made me gag, the poor woman goes off the deep end and NASA failed.

I got interested in Keith and this website on a daily basis because it was funny to me to see him have a nervous breakdown every night. The incessant O Reily Fox News Bashing, the speeecial comments, it was funny to me. In the 6months ive been coming here, i gotta tell you keith bores me now.

In the 1997 movie, "Men In Black",there is a character by the name of Edgar who becomes something of a rotting, cockroach-loving insect figure in human form. I mention that that because every time I hear Olbermann begin one of his non-sensical spiels he thinks is newsworthy, his voice, beginning to regurgitate from deep in his throat, sounds so much like Edgar the insect creature, I wonder if they are not one in the same. Has anyone else noticed this phenomena?

I too, am very interested in this case and want it covered everyday. But my reason is to show how the media let their bias get in the way of the truth.

Posted by: karris56 at February 7, 2007 3:14 AM

Right!
You know more than Fitzgerald. And Bush never mentioned the "yellow cake", that the White House later said was erroneous.

Your bias for Bush and the other criminals in the White Hoouse comes thru loud and clear.

Imus had asked Matthews about Guiliani. In the course of his typically long-winded response, Matthews said that he liked Guiliani the way he liked Ed Rendell. That they were "city guys" and that he (Matthews) was sick of these guys from the south with these "f---ing ranches" (i.e., Bush).

Aren't we all !
Actually most sane people are !

First off I’m a big fan of this I site, since it keeps me from watching KO and that can only be a good thing. Every morning I start my day off reading about how lame and one sided is previous nights show was and reading all the comments from the Left wing Democrat talking points, tin foil hat wearing, black helicopter, conspiracy theory moonbats. I truly believe that KO has gone from despising BO to actually having sexual feelings for him. I know people think I’m just making this up, but it’s true and it does happen. Somewhere over the last year KO stopped seeing O’Reilly as a bitter enemy but of a forbidden love he can’t have. It’s almost like a Stockholm syndrome, where the captive falls for the captor. KO has fallen for his enemy, I'm not sure of the scientific name for this so I will now coin the term Olberholm Syndrome, Definition: When one falls in love with their enemy by being obsessed to the point of sexual feelings. Anyway, the reason this show will never be any thing but a third rate talk show on a fourth rate cable station is really due to the fact that he has no opposing voices, hell even that intelligent deficient Bill Maher has opposing voices that are outnumber three to one but they are there. How I would love to see KO have to debate Newt Gingrich, John McCain, Ann Coulter and any other person on the right. That of course would go against every thing KO believes in, truth, fairness, honesty. Oh and am I the only one who gets physically ill every time KO say “Good night and Good luck”, give me a break, Keith is a journalist like Hillary is a Play Boy Centerfold, like Sean Penn is a Rhodes scholar, like Tim Robbins didn’t marry his mother, like Joe Biden isn’t a total and complete racist, like Ted Kennedy isn’t a raging alcoholic, sorry got carried away. Lastly to all the Leftists out there who watch this show and think KO is some hero, hello he is one sided and lies, he does not tell you the whole story, he invents things leaves things out. He is the Randi Rhodes of TV, (for all who don’t know Randi Rhodes she is a pathetic Air America host who gets even smaller ratings then KO) though in way it gives me a warm feeling inside knowing the Lefts hero is KO, and that there is a good chance that Hillary will be your nomination, its like a fixed horse race and we cant loose. Oh and by the way Mark Levin is not some one KO would want to take on in a debate, the man is a shark.

Karris 56, very good account of the facts that led to the Scooter Libby trial.

Only two important facts that you left out. Richard Armitage, No 2 official behind Colin Powell, reported to then Secretary of State Colin Powell within two or three days of Novak's second columnn mentioning Plame, that he leaked Plame's status as an employee of the CIA. Note, she was not covert.

Fitzpatrick was informed of this by Colin Powell within three days of being appointed Special Prosecutor. Powell, Armitage and Fitzpatrick kept this secret while the MSM had an open ended orgy of accusations and wild theories re V P Cheney and Karl Rove being hatchet men.

Here is the link to an MSNBC article revealing all of this: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14533384/site/newsweek/

I always had a great deal of respect for Colin Powell. This affair left me with a bad taste and utter contempt for him now.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

I know the wingnuts like to turn a blind eye to the waste and fraud by the republicans( have you ever heard any of them speak of it at this site ?)

But this is ridculous !

The US sent more than $4 billion in cash to Baghdad on giant pallets - weighing
a total of 363 tons - aboard military planes shortly before giving control back
to Iraqis. "Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone?
But that's exactly what our government did," said Representative Henry Waxman,
chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, during a
hearing reviewing possible waste, fraud and abuse of funds in Iraq.

My mistake. I used Fitzpatrick for Fitzgerald.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

that's not the only thing you're screwed up about Janet.

Wow! Chicken Blogger made a very good point by point refutation of all I said. And in one short sentence.

What a brilliant mind, or whatever other organ he thinks with.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

The US sent more than $4 billion in cash to Baghdad on giant pallets - weighing
a total of 363 tons - aboard military planes.

Ok get in line right wingers:
Defend this bullshit.
Grammie: you said you agree with everything the GOp does.
I dare you to defend this.

Chicken Blogger, you are so typically using a straw man here.

I've never said that and I don't belive that. I support the Repubs b/c they are the closest to implementing my political principles.

You may be attempting to use a very simplistic answer that I made to a very simplistic question from Bobo. Otherwise, you are welcome to document what you claim.

Point me to a credible source re these pallets of money and I will research it and get back to you.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

More American troops were killed in combat in Iraq in the past four months _ at least 334 through Jan. 31 _ than in any comparable stretch since the war began, according to an Associated Press analysis of casualty records, as U.S. soldiers and Marines find themselves fighting more battles in the streets of Baghdad, as well as other cities.

Didn't Catherine Crier used to be a part time anchor for ABC news? I believe she's just another example of liberal folks who just can't mask their true ideology anymore. She was quite disgusting during the Terri Schindler saga when that poor woman was slowly starving and dehydrating to death, contributing such brilliant observations as " I know I wouldn't want to live like that." Thanks so much, judge.

People watch what entertains them.
BillO's huge ratings doesn't really mean he's truthful just means his show and his personality is more entertaining to watch.
Like someone said, Britney Spears sold more copies than Marvin Gaye but we all know who the classier act is.

Chicken Blogger, still waiting for your back up.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Now now, we think I have SOMETHING to do with being truthful, or at least credible. Whenever Olby and us get mentioned in the same breath, we just want to start bitch slapping the otherwise good folks at nielson's.

Someone ( not me ) could make a case that an ass clown like Keith Olbermann trying to pass himself off as an unbiased journalist is quite entertaining.

WAY to go Keith!!! After Keith's segment with CC, the association of missing and exploited kids, they've decided to DROP O'Reilly as their speaker for the fund raiser on march 9th. Local news said KO had opened their eyes and she's grateful. NO MORE O'REILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If that's true, which I hope it's not, it souunds like a political decision and it stinks! So Bill O'Reilly, who has John Walsh on regularly, who advocates Jessica's law, who hounds liberal judges who sentence child molesters to 30 days in jail, is univited to this event because a sick man like KK the nazi salute loving loon lies and distorts about what he actually said? Wow!

Please provide a link.

Chicken Blogger, still waiting for your back up.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Was 400,000 American military dead and millions wounded intolerable for you to win WW2? Was the 20 million civilian dead in WW2 too much collateral damage for you? Was the 1 million civilians in Europe and Asia killed by American bombing alone too much for you? Was there any corruption involved in the Marshall plan in the rebuilding of Iraq? Was Eastern Europe better off after FDR gave it to the Communists? Were there zero deaths from holdouts in Germany after the Nazis surrendered? Please sir, take your bullshit somewhere else, like perhaps MSNBC. They might even give you your own tv show! Maybe you can be another laughing jackass just off camera for the oh so patriotic Keith Olbermann.

I realize the Marshall plan was in Europe.

Kill unborn babies, not terrorists.

From the offical report prepared for Rep. Waxman:

http://oversight.house.gov/Documents/20050621114229-22109.pdf

"The documents from the Federal Reserve indicate that the United States shipped nearly $12 billion in U.S. currency to Iraq between May 2003 and June 2004, an international currency transfer of unprecedented scale. The cash was drawn from accounts containing revenues from sales of Iraqi oil and frozen and seized assets of the former regime.
Nearly half of the currency shipped into Iraq under U.S. direction — more than $5 billion — flowed into the country in the final six weeks before control of Iraqi funds was returned to the interim Iraqi Government on June 28, 2004. In the week before the transition, CPA officials ordered the urgent delivery of more than $4
billion in U.S. currency from the Federal Reserve, including one shipment of $2.4 billion - the largest shipment of cash in the bank’s history.
In total, more than 281 million individual bills — including more than 107 million $100 bills — weighing 363 tons were shipped to Iraq."

WAY to go Keith!!! After Keith's segment with CC, the association of missing and exploited kids, they've decided to DROP O'Reilly as their speaker for the fund raiser on march 9th. Local news said KO had opened their eyes and she's grateful. NO MORE O'REILLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: JennaB at February 7, 2007 2:42 PM

If that's true, which I hope it's not, it souunds like a political decision and it stinks! So Bill O'Reilly, who has John Walsh on regularly, who advocates Jessica's law, who hounds liberal judges who sentence child molesters to 30 days in jail, is univited to this event because a sick man like KK the nazi salute loving loon lies and distorts about what he actually said? Wow!

Posted by: Pat Fegan at February 7, 2007 2:52 PM

I would have to believe the only ones hurt by KO's attack are the fund raiser itself. How many people will now not show to see O'reilly if this is true ? Even a couple would hurt contributions . Does this guy even think ?

don't even waste your breath trying to explain the differences between WWII and Iraq (or anything else) to the hapless Pat Fegan -- he's one of the more brain dead evangelics this site has seen.

KENYA'S LEADING BISHOP DISPUTES FACTS OF EVOLUTION

-- Hapless Fool Denies Geologic Age of Earth, Global Warming, Gravity ... and Iraq Civil War --

NAIROBI, Kenya (AP) -- Deep in the dusty, unlit corridors of Kenya's national museum, locked away in a plain-looking cabinet, is one of mankind's oldest relics: Turkana Boy, as he is known, the most complete skeleton of a prehistoric human ever found. But his first public display later this year is at the heart of a growing storm -- one pitting scientists against Kenya's powerful and popular evangelical Christian movement. The debate over evolution vs. creationism -- once largely confined to the United States -- has arrived in a country known as the cradle of mankind. "I did not evolve from Turkana Boy or anything like it," says Bishop Boniface Adoyo, head of Kenya's 35 evangelical denominations, which he claims have 10 million followers. "These sorts of silly views are killing our faith."

I'm a Catholic but I don't consider being called an evangelical by the likes of the left to be an insult. Far from it. Anyway, what's with the insults? I mean, that's not what we think of when we think of the leftwing jerks, is it?

Keep trying to compare Iraq to Vietnam. It ain't going to happen, no matter how hard you lefties try. You're right, the country did unite to defeat the axis and the Japanese. Too bad the left is too gutless to do it this time. I know why we declared war on Japan but why did we declare war on Germany and Italy? I mean, they didn't bomb Pearl Harbor.

The comparison to WW2 is apt in two regards. First the number of civilians killed either directly or indirectly by allied troops and second, the total number of American troops killed or wounded. Every night on leftist networks such as NBC, we hear the latest troop death toll and also we hear about some civilian death toll that is so exaggerated ( I'm speaking of a recent report that said 600,000 civilians had been killed) that it should be rejected immediately. Whether you want to respond with reason or not, it's entirely up to you.

Democrat wars, good. Republican wars, bad.

Come on, American death toll. Get to 4,000. You can do it!

> If that's true, which I hope it's not, it souunds like a political decision and it stinks!

Actually, it sounds more like an OlbyLoon troll. Note the absence of any source for this claim, and without one, it's to be taken with a very large shaker of salt.

Why do you despise evangelicals so much? Is it their love of this country, dying for it by the hundreds of thousands, paying taxes, being the backbone of it's founding and growth. Who knows the reason for your phobia but I suggest getting out of your blue state state of mind and rub elbows with some evangelicals, who are salt of the earth type of folks. Seriously, as a Catholic, your comment is not indicative of how I feel. Tap into some of that Christian charity, brother.

"Keep trying to compare Iraq to Vietnam. It ain't going to happen, no "

Oh... well, gee! I mean if you say so it must be true. No evidence, of even a single reason given why the compatision is not valid. Just an: "I pat think that is not a good comparison." That's great Pat, want a cookie?

Try providing me with how the two are similar. And yes, a cookie would be lovely.

"Actually, it sounds more like an OlbyLoon troll. Note the absence of any source for this claim, and without one, it's to be taken with a very large shaker of salt."

I notice you rarely source your claims. For example in a argument I had with you regarding bill O'Reilly yesterday, you made claims (without sourcing them) then demanded I source mine. Why the double standard Johnny? (feel free to relate this question to your whole life.

"By the way, I am a Catholic, too (the boarding school, altar boy, Cursillio variety), and if someone called me an evangelical, I'd consider it a declaration of war and wallop him."

What brand of Catholicism teaches you to wallop someone for calling you an evangelical? Would you wallop someone for calling you an atheist?

Try providing me with how the two are similar. And yes, a cookie would be lovely.

You are the one making claims and not backing them. but since you asked:

First, there are the obvious strategic and tactical similarities. American troops are fighting a guerrilla war in Iraq. The terrain is difficult, and the insurgents know it better than we do. The enemy attacks at a time and place of its own choosing, avoiding troop concentrations where U.S. firepower can be brought to bear. Urban warfare has become the norm with insurgents staying close to U.S. troops, often engaging civilians to support or shield their operations. As a result, the uncertain battleground of Iraq poses enormous challenges for American soldiers, seeking to separate combatants from civilians without alienating most Iraqis. We face in Iraq, like we did in Vietnam, an enemy who refuses to play by our rules and is clearly willing to die for his beliefs.

second Throughout the Vietnam War, especially in the early years, American officials deliberately misrepresented the enemy. Vietnamese nationalists were ignored with all opposition labeled Communist or with the delightfully pejorative phrase "Viet Cong." In Iraq, the Bush administration has once again written nationalists out of the script. Insurgents are variously labeled "dead-enders," "fanatics," "thugs," "militants," "terrorists," or "outsiders," despite growing evidence that a large percentage of the Iraqi people are opposed to the U.S. occupation. Recent intelligence reports suggest that support for the insurgents is widespread and growing. In some areas, Sunni and Shiite groups are joining forces, at least temporarily, in a common cause -- killing Americans.

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retrospect, it is clear we had no idea what we were getting into when we marched into Vietnam, and the same appears true in Iraq. In reference to Vietnam, President Johnson pledged in April 1965: "We will not withdraw, either openly or under the cloak of a meaningless agreement." Four decades later, President Bush pledged: "We’ve got to stay the course and we will stay the course" in Iraq.

Just a few there are many more.

To Hank: In the words of John McEnroe, " Answer the question. The question, jerk." I didn't mean the jerk part, I just love that line from Johnny Mac. Me thinks, though, you're quite intolerant of evangelicals. How un-liberal of you.

Your comparisons are predictable and weak and seem like they were lifted from some talking points that would make Joe Biden beam with pride.

The Vietnamese fought us many times out in the open, not exclusively with guerilla tactics.

So the Vietnamese nationalists were allied with the communists? News to me. No, it seems to me that it was pretty straight forward with the North Vietnamese, backed by Russia and China, vs. the South Vietnamese, backed by the U.S. and others. Wouldn't a Vietnamese nationalist be dead set against international communism?

There was no South and North Iraq. South Vietnam refused to be a part of the communist tyranny the North had in store. Millions of Vietnamese fled the north to escape. Actually, the vast majority of the South Vietnamese wanted us there. Do you recall the boat people?

Ultimately, it will depend on the final outcome of this war whether it can be compared to Vietnam or not. There is one comparison that I will concede and that is the dispicable behavior of many on the left.

Thanks for the novena, regardless of the motive.

I believe you are splitting hairs, my friend. So because the folks on the Mayflower didn't call themselves evangelical, they weren't evangelical? They were devout, God fearing Protestant Christians. Have you read any of their writings and town charters? If evangelicals didn't found America, who did? Athiests? Nominal Christians who kept their faith hush hush? Wiccans? Can we dispense with the nonsense and agree that it was Christian inspired folks who founded our nation? And can we then agree that conservative Christians, no matter what denomination, seem quite at ease citing their writings to bolster their ideology? Barry Lynn doesn't seems to be that comfortable doing the same.

"Your comparisons are predictable and weak and seem like they were lifted from some talking points that would make Joe Biden beam with pride."

And yet you are completly unable to defeat them.

"The Vietnamese fought us many times out in the open, not exclusively with guerilla tactics."

So? For the majority of the war they fought a guerilla war.

"So the Vietnamese nationalists were allied with the communists? News to me."

No you missed the point completly. The north vietnamese were nationalist. In their view they were fighting a way against an imperilistic army. Right or wrong their experiences with french colonization colored this view.

There was no South and North Iraq. South Vietnam refused to be a part of the communist tyranny the North had in store. Millions of Vietnamese fled the north to escape. Actually, the vast majority of the South Vietnamese wanted us there. Do you recall the boat people?

Do you have any numbers that indicate the vast majority wanted us there/ This seems like an unsubstatinated claim.

"Ultimately, it will depend on the final outcome of this war whether it can be compared to Vietnam or not. There is one comparison that I will concede and that is the dispicable behavior of many on the left."

If By deplorable you mean demanding accountability in a mismanaged war I agree.

There wasn't much to defeat. As for the majority of the fighting being guerilla warfare, that may or may not be true. There was more out in the open warfare in Vietnam than there's been in Iraq. I don't recall too many IED's being used in Vietnam and the enemy there seemed to have some heavy artillery at their disposal. If you don't believe me, ask Hanoi Jane.

So the South Vietnamese welcomed the communists with open arms? I was just going by the M. O. of communist take overs everywhere, you know, taking over with brute force, outlawing every freedom we take for granted. Also, the huge Vietnamese population in this country would back me up on that assertion. I recall the 2 million Cambodians slaughtered by the Communist Pol Pot after we withdrew from Vietnam.

If you recall, Ho Chi Minh led the Vietnamese against the French. At that time, they were called the Viet Minh. They were communist to the core then, too.

Not everyone can sit on their ass all day long and have nothing to do like you , Grammie !
Grammie has to check it out for herself.
Funny.
Why would you care anyway?
You've given tacit approval to all of the fraud , waste and corruption the republicans are responsible for while they've been in office.

The Article came from Reuters.

US Sent Pallets of Cash to Baghdad
By Jeremy Pelofsky
Reuters

Tuesday 07 February 2007

The U.S. Federal Reserve sent record payouts of more than $4 billion in cash to Baghdad on giant pallets aboard military planes shortly before the United States gave control back to Iraqis, lawmakers said on Tuesday.

The money, which had been held by the United States, came from Iraqi oil exports, surplus dollars from the U.N.-run oil-for-food program and frozen assets belonging to the ousted Saddam Hussein regime.

Bills weighing a total of 363 tons were loaded onto military aircraft in the largest cash shipments ever made by the Federal Reserve, said Rep. Henry Waxman, chairman of the House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

"Who in their right mind would send 363 tons of cash into a war zone? But that's exactly what our government did," the California Democrat said during a hearing reviewing possible waste, fraud and abuse of funds in Iraq.

On December 12, 2003, $1.5 billion was shipped to Iraq, initially "the largest pay out of U.S. currency in Fed history," according to an e-mail cited by committee members.

It was followed by more than $2.4 billion on June 22, 2004, and $1.6 billion three days later. The CPA turned over sovereignty on June 28.

Paul Bremer, who as the administrator of the Coalition Provisional Authority ran Iraq after initial combat operations ended, said the enormous shipments were done at the request of the Iraqi minister of finance.

"He said, 'I am concerned that I will not have the money to support the Iraqi government expenses for the first couple of months after we are sovereign. We won't have the mechanisms in place, I won't know how to get the money here,"' Bremer said.

"So these shipments were made at the explicit request of the Iraqi minister of finance to forward fund government expenses, a perfectly, seems to me, legitimate use of his money," Bremer told lawmakers.

Where's the Money?

Democrats led by Waxman also questioned whether the lack of oversight of $12 billion in Iraqi money that was disbursed by Bremer and the CPA somehow enabled insurgents to get their hands on the funds, possibly through falsifying names on the government payroll.

"I have no knowledge of monies being diverted. I would certainly be concerned if I thought they were," Bremer said. He pointed out that the problem of fake names on the payroll existed before the U.S.-led invasion.

The special inspector general for Iraqi reconstruction, Stuart Bowen, said in a January 2005 report that $8.8 billion was unaccounted for after being given to the Iraqi ministries.

"We were in the middle of a war, working in very difficult conditions, and we had to move quickly to get this Iraqi money working for the Iraqi people," Bremer told lawmakers. He said there was no banking system and it would have been impossible to apply modern accounting standards in the midst of a war.

"I acknowledge that I made mistakes and that, with the benefit of hindsight, I would have made some decisions differently," Bremer said.

Republicans argued that Bremer and the CPA staff did the best they could under the circumstances and accused Democrats of trying to score political points over the increasingly unpopular Iraq war.

"We are in a war against terrorists, to have a blame meeting isn't, in my opinion, constructive," said Rep. Dan Burton, an Indiana Republican.

Burton would fit right in here at this site with the other wingnuts !

Hank is one of those Catholics who doesn't care if the poor are getting poorer each year under Bush, b/c Hank is a Bush apologist.

Hank makes every excuse in the world for Bush and how he's neglected the people Jesus said we should help.

By deplorable, I mean that throng of leftist skum in D.C. calling for the impeachment of a president during wartime, calling Bush a war criminal, saying they support the troops but oppose the war, calling our troops occupiers and war criminals, saying the invasion was based on lies, giving us a nightly count of the war dead, undermining the troops morale with the constant call for withdrawal, imbracing known liars such as Joe Wilson. How is any of that holding the administration accountable? If none of that applies to you, then good. If it does, then wave that patriot flag.

I recall Jesus and John the Baptist going postal on tax collectors. I recall Jesus encouraging rich people to give charity of their own accord, not being forced to by the government. I recall Jesus saying render to Ceasar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's. I recall Matthew having a lot to answer for for being a tax collector. I remember Jesus encouraging his followers to take care of the least of the brethren, not petitioning the government for more programs. Leftists won't be happy until the middle class has disappeared and we just have rich and poor, the perfect atmosphere for class warfare.

By deplorable, I mean that throng of leftist skum in D.C. calling for the impeachment of a president during wartime, calling Bush a war criminal, saying they support the troops but oppose the war, calling our troops occupiers and war criminals, saying the invasion was based on lies, giving us a nightly count of the war dead, undermining the troops morale with the constant call for withdrawal, imbracing known liars such as Joe Wilson. How is any of that holding the administration accountable? If none of that applies to you, then good. If it does, then wave that patriot flag.

Oh it all applies. I want the lying president impeached. I support the troops by beleive the war is wrong. i embrace wilson over the known liars in this administration. I also beleive in a count of the war dead. i don't think you guys should be able to sweep that under the table.

Then as the hordes of Islamic radicals and leftists pour over civilization, be sure and wave the white flag of surrender, too.

I don't think anyone who supports the president and the war is trying to sweep anything under the rug. I can't say the same for the motives of the other side. The words exploitive and bad taste come to mind.

"Then as the hordes of Islamic radicals and leftists pour over civilization, be sure and wave the white flag of surrender, too."

Why I'm for fighting terroist. I am for doing it comptently though.

"I don't think anyone who supports the president and the war is trying to sweep anything under the rug. I can't say the same for the motives of the other side. The words exploitive and bad taste come to mind."

What other reason would you have for wanting to hide the numbers. You want to keep the american people in the dark about how badly this war has been run. You'd rather controll the media so that it paints a rosey everyhting is grand view of iraq as opposed to the reality showing how big of a blunder it has become.

Nothing unites a country and demoralizes the enemy like several death counts on a daily basis. That sounds like patriotic reporting to me. So if 3,000 American dead after 4 years in Iraq is a blunder, what would you call WW2 on the eve of the Normandy invasion, with at least 300,000 American dead at that point and no end to the war in sight. Or can I not compare WW2 and the Iraq War?

"Nothing unites a country and demoralizes the enemy like several death counts on a daily basis."

So you are saying our deaths are uniting the iraqis? If so they should stop the civil war anyday now.

"That sounds like patriotic reporting to me. So if 3,000 American dead after 4 years in Iraq is a blunder, what would you call WW2 on the eve of the Normandy invasion, with at least 300,000 American dead at that point and no end to the war in sight. Or can I not compare WW2 and the Iraq War"

A war that was neccassary this one wasn't. In either case it is good to report the loss. The people paying the price (The american people in this case) have a right to say if they think the price is to high. if you are so against freedom of the press why don't you go to China where they don't have it.

For the liberal girls and the boys
Keith likes to call Fox News Fox Noise.
He's so pissed that this nation
Tunes into that station.
While Keith keeps on loosing his poise.

Something tells me you can no longer grasp my arguments. Good for you to see through me criticizing the press for the obsession with the death count and exposing it for the sinister plan it really was. to do away with freedom of the press. How dare I take the press to task.

"Something tells me you can no longer grasp my arguments. Good for you to see through me criticizing the press for the obsession with the death count and exposing it for the sinister plan it really was. to do away with freedom of the press. How dare I take the press to task."

What argument? That the press is evil for reporting bad things.

WASHINGTON - NBC newsman Tim Russert testified Wednesday he never discussed a CIA operative with vice presidential aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, contradicting Libby's version to a grand jury in the CIA leak investigation.

The Facts Have a Well-Known Liberal Bias...

NeoCon Spin Cheat Sheet:

1.) If you are anti-war, you must be anti-troops.

2.) If you care about the death toll in Iraq, you must want it to increase.

3.) If you were against this war from the start, you just haven't thought hard enough about a way out.

4.) If you care about Iraqi civilians, you must be a terrorist sympathizer.

5.) If you want proper gear for our soldiers for as long as they are there, you must be a flip-flopping Demomcrat.

6.) If you want accurate news reports from the war (whether it fits with the story Bush is telling or not), you want to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

7.) If you disagree with Bush you are anti-american.

8.) If you don't think we should bomb Iran, you must love radical Islam.

9.) If you protest the war, you must have been one of those people who spit on Vietnam vets.

10.) If you're not a Chicken Hawk Right Wing Republicon Neocon, then you are ruining America and everything our founding fathers fought so hard to create.

Drink the Red Flavored Kool-Aid, Practice 1-10 in front of mirror until they sound believable.

Repeat as necessary...

The press ( and when speaking of NBC, I use that term loosely ) should practice a little discretion in the area of reporting casualties. To constantly beat the drum about the number of American dead could be demoralizing to the troops and inspire the enemy to continue fighting. Again, the press seems to be reporting the bad news exclusively without adding the good news that happens on a daily basis. When even the soldiers complain about that fact, Bill Arkin, an employee of NBC and I'm sure a man of no political agenda just like Krazy Keith, tells them to basically shut up. So here is the question: is the left wing, elite media so full of themselves that they are above any type of criticism and that all critics of how the liberal media reports on the war are opponents of freedom of the press. That's a clever tactic but, alas, it has been played out.

The so called neo con cheat sheet seems to be nothing more than red herrings that a cute little leftist concocted. If the good sir or madam can quote someone who says that, I'm all ears. Continuing to not state conservative's REAL greivances with the anti-American left and instead post so called conservative arguments only make you guys look childish.

Concerning individual leftists, I wish and pray for their conversion. But the ideology of leftism, I wish a quick and painful destruction.

"The press ( and when speaking of NBC, I use that term loosely ) should practice a little discretion in the area of reporting casualties. To constantly beat the drum about the number of American dead could be demoralizing to the troops and inspire the enemy to continue fighting."

So you are saying they should censure themselves and only provide good news. if things are bad or mismanged, that is not important and should not be reported on. If the govermnet is doing an incompatent job, that should get swept under the rug?

"Again, the press seems to be reporting the bad news exclusively without adding the good news that happens on a daily basis."

That is because there is very little good news. and alot more more bad news. and it is not just the media saying it. Conservatives like james Baker have said the situation is grave. grave hardly sounds like there is alot of good news.

When even the soldiers complain about that fact, Bill Arkin, an employee of NBC and I'm sure a man of no political agenda just like Krazy Keith, tells them to basically shut up.

What evidence do you of of soildgers complaining about how the press is portraying things and can you demonstrate it is not a few isolated individuals?

"So here is the question: is the left wing, elite media so full of themselves that they are above any type of criticism and that all critics of how the liberal media reports on the war are opponents of freedom of the press. That's a clever tactic but, alas, it has been played out."

If you are not for letting the media report things. then you are not for a free media.

Scott Norvell London bureau chief for Fox News admits bias:

"Even we at Fox News manage to get some lefties on the air occasionally, and often let them finish their sentences before we club them to death and feed the scraps to Karl Rove and Bill O'Reilly. And those who hate us can take solace in the fact that they aren't subsidizing Bill's bombast; we payers of the BBC license fee don't enjoy that peace of mind.

Fox News is, after all, a private channel and our presenters are quite open about where they stand on particular stories. That's our appeal. People watch us because they know what they are getting. The Beeb's institutionalized leftism would be easier to tolerate if the corporation was a little more honest about it."

So the soldiers ( and not just a few ) who complain that the good news isn't getting out is against freedom of the press? The overwhelmingly majority of them are disgusted by the left wing press's coverage of the war. Report everyting, the good, bad, and ugly. Not just the last two. Again, if the troops criticize the skum in the streets of D.C. a couple of weeks ago and the press for not reporting the good news, are they anti- freedom of the press? Are they lying when they say that there is enough good news to be reported? My problem, mostly with the liberal press, is what they don't report, not what they report. And when reporting the death toll, report it in context, say, what the death tolls were in past wars. No wait! That would put things in context, exactly what the press doesn't want. Go ahead and be naive about how the press only has the purest of intentions and no agenda of their own and how they should be put on a pedestal, accountable to no one but themselves ( except the evil Fox News ) You bet I'll watch those disingenous folks. The democrats and the left wing press have become indistinguishable.

So that's Fox news admitting right wing bias. Um, not exactly. Nice try, though. Maybe someone a little higher up, eh?

Again, I want to make it perfectly clear. When speaking of the press, I'm not speaking of NBC or Keith Olbermann. He strikes me as more of a side show at the circus, like a bearded lady or something.

"So that's Fox news admitting right wing bias. "

YIP. Now perhaps you could show a quote admitting bias at NBC? Your turn provide an admission.

Chicken Blogger, having done a little reading on the subject I would say they have one helluva accounting problem on their hands. A few thoughts at this point.

The cash sent to Iraq was Iraqi funds. I thought the mantra from the left was that GWB et al had stolen the Iraqi funds. You guys must have been mistaken.

The cash was handed over to the Iraqis.

Cash, the only commodity in a war zone other than barter, is not unusual.

The accounting for the transfers seems to have some big problems.

It was a chaotic situation to say the least. Chaos and accounting principles are mutually exclusive.

So far no allegations that I've seen of blatant or otherwise theft by US officials.

Thanks for a trip down memory lane for me. The Defense Contract Audit Agency that was prominent in one article I read is the extension of the Army Audit Agency. My Dad was the Acting Chief Auditor for the Southeast Region for the Army Audit Agency in the late 1950s and early 1960s until he retired. One of my daughter-in-law's father is an auditor for the Defense Contract Audit Agency. This is a very small specialized agency in the DoD. Six degrees of separation and all that.

Last, but not least by any means, Waxman has an agenda that he has been chomping at the bit to enact. I'll wait for the full disclosures to make a decision on this.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

The leftist bias is evident at NBC in many ways. The fact they have an anchor for the network ( Brian Williams ) who has a tendency to parrot left wing talking points from global warming to the U.S. loosing the war on terror, by the stories he seems to highlight ( the anti-war march ) and the stories he chooses to ignore ( the pro life march that dwarfed the lefty march), the fact that he referred to a radical leftwing professor from Pennsylvania University who wrote a book on Katrina who said it was racism that prevented the Federal government from responding to the black people of New Orleans as having " wrote the book on Katrina, his rude interview of President Bush in New Orleans, by the hysterically unbalanced White house reporter David Gregory who seems to like making statements instead of asking questions and getting in fights with Tony Snow, the White House spokesman, of the employment of Tim Russert, who formerly worked for a Democrat senator and is supposedly an unbiased moderator of Meet the Press, the fact that Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann were the anchors of NBC's election night coverage, their overplaying of Republican scandals and hardly saying boo when it came to Democrat scandals, Suzanne Malveaux calling Tony Blair " Bush's Poodle", something only Blair's fiercest left wing British critics call him, employing the deplorable and infamous Bill Arkin and claiming he's just your ordinary, average military analyst as he calls American soldiers mercenaries. When it comes to proving the left wing bias of NBC and the other so called mainstream media outlets, you must examine the stories they report, how it's presented, whether both sides are presented equally, who the reporters are as well as their anchors, what prior jobs they may have held beforehand that might indicate where their politics may lean, what stories are not reported, etc... There is a science to it and it can be applied to NBC's body of work, which is slanted demonstrably to the left.

Soyou were unable to find any admitting at NBC they were bias? tch, tch, tch,

Your whole argument is that because YOU SAY, without providing evidence that certain journalist "parrot" left wing talking points makes them liberal. Wow so by that logic, When Brit Hume, John Gibson, and Bill O'reilly parrot right wing talking points we can then conclude Fox news is biased right?

"The leftist bias is evident at NBC in many ways. The fact they have an anchor for the network ( Brian Williams ) who has a tendency to parrot left wing talking points from global warming to the U.S. loosing the war on terror, by the stories he seems to highlight ( the anti-war march ) and the stories he chooses to ignore ( the pro life march that dwarfed the lefty march), the fact that he referred to a radical leftwing professor from Pennsylvania University who wrote a book on Katrina who said it was racism that prevented the Federal government from responding to the black people of New Orleans as having " wrote the book on Katrina, his rude interview of President Bush in New Orleans, by the hysterically unbalanced White house reporter David Gregory who seems to like making statements instead of asking questions and getting in fights with Tony Snow, the White House spokesman, of the employment of Tim Russert, who formerly worked for a Democrat senator and is supposedly an unbiased moderator of Meet the Press, the fact that Chris Matthews and Keith Olbermann were the anchors of NBC's election night coverage, their overplaying of Republican scandals and hardly saying boo when it came to Democrat scandals, Suzanne Malveaux calling Tony Blair " Bush's Poodle", something only Blair's fiercest left wing British critics call him, employing the deplorable and infamous Bill Arkin and claiming he's just your ordinary, average military analyst as he calls American soldiers mercenaries. When it comes to proving the left wing bias of NBC and the other so called mainstream media outlets, you must examine the stories they report, how it's presented, whether both sides are presented equally, who the reporters are as well as their anchors, what prior jobs they may have held beforehand that might indicate where their politics may lean, what stories are not reported, etc... There is a science to it and it can be applied to NBC's body of work, which is slanted demonstrably to the left."

Pat I would like to read a quote by one right wing blogger on the subject of Fox news's bias.

"I am perfectly willing to concede that Roger Ailes is a long-time political partisan, that he has built a network aimed at the Republican, right-of-center, conservative audience, that he was hired to do so because Rupert Murdoch saw an opportunity to make good money by doing so, that much of the air time on Fox News Channel is devoted to political issues (foreign and domestic) and that the stars on Fox News are, by and large, right-of center or conservative."

None of the people at NBC that I mentioned admit that they are liberal, except for Matthews maybe. Hume, Gibson and O'Reilly are all out in the open opinion people. Next!

Gibson is an anchor. mathews is an out an out opinon guy. Your logic has been shown to be flawed

Not to mention when you are complaining how Tony snow was treated you forgot to mention he worked for Fox news. I also notice you offerd no opinon on the right wing blogger speaking about Fox news

"you offerd no opinon on the right wing blogger speaking about Fox news"

He is going to duck that one.

still no evidence that anyone at nbc tilts left. just a few anecdotal stories.

I mentioned that Matthews considers himself to be liberal but that might be news to Andrea Mitchell. When she was on with O'Reilly, she was shocked when he called Matthews a liberal. John Gibson is not a news anchor guy, he has a show like other opinion people such as Bill O'Reilly and Greta Van Susternen.

What does Tony Snow working for Fox have to do with anything? Does that mean that Gregory can be a jackass because's Snow's former network destroy's Gregory's current sister network in the ratings? Yeah, Snow went from tv to the White House press corps. John Stephanopolous went from spokesman to tv? Is that also relevant? Maybe, maybe not.

If my fellow right wing bloggers like Fox News, it's because it is the fairest of the liberal cable outlets.

What I find amazing is that Kooky Keith, the shrillest of all NBC lefties, maintains he has no political bent.

If my fellow right wing bloggers like Fox News, it's because it is the fairest of the liberal cable outlets.

The post admits Fox news is biased right. Care to comment?

I meant George, not John S.

"mentioned that Matthews considers himself to be liberal but that might be news to Andrea Mitchell."

I don't beleive you. Provide evidence please.

"What does Tony Snow working for Fox have to do with anything?"

He is an example of another conservative commentator at Fox. By your logic that is all that is needed to prove a network is bias.

I said that Fox news was the fairest of the liberal cable networks. Do you even read my posts all the way through?

I don't consider NBC or it's bastard offspring MSNBC liberal because they have Matthews and Olbermann. I'm saying that their actual news reporting, the anchors and the reporters, are left wing. My problem with Olbermann is that he is a coward who refuses to have a debate on his show. Nothing against Matthews for the most part, but when he and the Coward hosted election night coverage, I went through the roof. Nor can a Fox news critic say it is right wing because of Hannity etc... Show me where Shepard Smith, Greg Jarret, Bill Hemmmer, Trace Gallagher, tilt the news to the right. That's the argument.

Last, but not least by any means, Waxman has an agenda that he has been chomping at the bit to enact. I'll wait for the full disclosures to make a decision on this.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 7, 2007 7:56 PM

Grammie's still waiting for the full disclosures of the Abramoff scandals too.
You have not come out and cursed any of the GOP corruption or waste ( like the $8 billion missing in Iraq)over the course of 6 years.
If any of these numerous events occurred during a Democratic administration, you'd be freaking.

"Waxman has an agenda that he has been chomping at the bit to enact".
Yes his agenda is called oversight and accountability of the waste and fraud your boys have been getting away with b/c the GOP Congress looked the other way.
No peep out of you during that time period.
No wonder you look down at Waxman and call it an "agenda" when he's just doing what is right.
When 'your boys'are in the crosshairs, it's all politically motivated to you.
You have always put party over country.
That is your MO.

I didn't see that post by the blogger about Roger Ailes. I need to hit refresh a little more often. Okay, here's my take. I know of Ailes backround and his comment that there " is a niche market that Fox can tap into. Half the country." He was speaking, of course, of conservatives/republicans. I say so what. What say you of Ted Turner. Have you heard his liberal comments about every political issue under the sun and his hatred of Fox News. I realize he is no longer there but he founded CNN and his spirit animates that arid wasteland. And yes, its' stars are conservative but might I add that MSNBC's top two shows are hosted by liberals and CNN's top shows are hosted by three liberals, King, Zahn and Cooper. There is no permanent conservative voice on any of those programs but there is a permanent liberal voice on Hannity and Colmes. Speaking of Colmes, his radio show seems to be doing quite well. Not bad for an employee of Fox.

At the end of the day, Fox news is successful because both sides of the political debate are represented equally. You can call it fair and balanced, the opposite of Meltdown with Booger McGee.

I said that Fox news was the fairest of the liberal cable networks. Do you even read my posts all the way through?

Posted by: Pat Fegan at February 7, 2007 8:36 PM

When someone calls Fox news "liberal", why would anyone WANT to read your ridiculous posts ?

At the end of the day, Fox news is successful because both sides of the political debate are represented equally.

You really can't be that stupid, or blind.
Can you ?

HANNITY AND colmes is fair and balanced.

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At the Libby trial today we found out that it's all Tim Russert's fault !

Can these republican morons be any more DOA?

I know now you read that post all the way through. It got the desired reaction. If you honestly believe that liberal representation is so woeful on Fox that it is practically non existent, then you are to be pitied. Try watching the channell instead of just being fed bullshit about it. Think outside that blue box.

I can't stand that right wing jerk Alan Colmes. I mean, him and Hannity always beat up the liberal guest.

The blogger admits Fox news is biased. is he wrong or right?

"I say so what."

You are arguing that fox is biased that is what so what.

its' stars are conservative but might I add that MSNBC's top two shows are hosted by liberals and

First off you have not demonstrated they are liberals. secondly, if that is true, then by your line of reasoning Fox also must be biased. so you have to either a) claim Fox is biased and so is NBC or claim 2) neither are biased.

CNN's top shows are hosted by three liberals, King, Zahn and Cooper. There is no permanent conservative voice on any of those programs but there is a permanent liberal voice on Hannity and Colmes. Speaking of Colmes, his radio show seems to be doing quite well. Not bad for an employee of Fox.

And there are conservative on NBC who have their own shows such as Ticker Carlson.
At the end of the day, Fox news is successful because both sides of the political debate are represented equally. You can call it fair and balanced, the opposite of Meltdown with Booger McGee.

"I can't stand that right wing jerk Alan Colmes. I mean, him and Hannity always beat up the liberal guest."

Calling Comles a right wing jerk is a little unfair. He is actually middle of the road. Colmes: "I am very moderate."

At the end of the day, Fox news is successful because both sides of the political debate are represented equally. You can call it fair and balanced, the opposite of Meltdown with Booger McGee.

When does the liberal viewpoint get presented on Fox?