HAHAHAHA i knew i had to see this mysterious Rupert Murdoch "admission" to see what Keith takes out of context. he turns a cut-off "We tried..." into "We tried to influence the path to war." Come on, Keith!

MHKB (man head kid body) Olberman has lost his frigging mind. His obsession with Rupert Murdock, Bill O'Reilly and Fox News has cost him any shot at being taken seriously as a news journalist. He has become a laughingstock even at his own netowrk.

Keith Olbermann may be Peter Griffin, but Bill O' Reilly is Dr. Katz.

A CHALLENGE TO ALL OLBY FANS:

Tonight, instead of throwing around goofy insults about this website, the people who post here, and political beliefs you disagree with... how about you respond to the things Johnny Dollar posts in the show recap. Show me that you're paying attention... and that you're more than just parrots on the shoulder of the Olbermann pirate.

Wow me.

Scratch that Dr. Katz remark ... Let us go with something along the lines of Mr. Burns.

HEY "Watch Us Bicker"...

Dr. Katz was a great show! I'd be proud to think of Bill as Dr. Katz. Hehehe.

Britney Spears' boyfriend breaking up with her over the phone is just a bit more classy then someone who send a galpal an email saying "Don't ever contact me again." Stay classy, KO. We just know you'd never do things like that. Noooo. Not you.

I know. Bill O' Reilly can not come up to the standards of Dr. Katz. Dr. Katz asked questions first, then listened to his patiants. Not to mention letting them be the ones to form their own opinnions. Bill O' Reilly shouts down hi guests, has them there to prove that he is not biased and pretend that he and his programs are so great.

No one at Fox News was the WPITW???? Was the www.mediamatters.org site down today? As an "Olbyloon" I feel cheated . . .

Gee, you'd think Keith would at least give Ruppert a little love for creating the network that put Peter Griffith on the air and gave him a reason for putting Seth McFarlane on his show.

Obama, how do you know about a show you clearly have never seen? Do you always make things up?

As for the Dr. Katz thing... well... perhaps you should't base you opinion of what news should be on cartoons. Spongebob doesn't know d*ck about politics.

Wow 'I'mnotblue' you mean we are actually expected to read Dollar's show 'recaps'? Now THAT is asking way to much!

I watch the show, so why in blazes would I want to read a biased 'recap' written by a political attack dog?

Now, THAT would be more tortuous than being stuck in a cell with Hannity's radio show blaring from a radio I couldn't reach!

Does Bill O know that the Libby trial is going on ? How come he does not cover it ? hhhmmmmmm,,,

At the Libby trial today, we found out that it's all Tim Russert's fault !

Could these republicans be more moronic if they tried ?

Mike... I dunno. Thought you might want to add something useful to the conversation. Like tell me why something Dollar has said is wrong. Hard to prove your point, when you don't really make any arguments other than "YOU GUYS ALL SUCK!"

I have seen all of the first two seasons of Family Guy before I got tired of that show. 9 Seasons of the Simpsons. Silly, imnotblue ...

Imnotblue:

You've never read anything like "YOU GUYS ALL SUCK" from me, so don't pretend that you have.

If you don't consider my anti-war arguments as not making any arguments, thats your problem. Meanwhile, I'm not particularly interested in your constant petty picking at KO or any other commentators.

Obama- YOU'VE WATCHED FOX!!! BLASPHEMY!

"Another American city makes English it's national language."

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The city was Nashville. What do you expect? They should also make overbites and mispronouncing words apart of it's natural language doctrine! Why not, they barely speak English the way it is supposed to be said !!!!!

Mocking Keith Olbermann is like shooting fish in a barrell. Could it be any easier.

I'm sure it's a toup!!

Mike- "If you don't consider my anti-war arguments as not making any arguments, thats your problem."

No, I don't. Because they are not specifically pro-Olbermann statements. Defend Olbermann, if you agree with him. Address the accusations against him. Unless you can't.

"Meanwhile, I'm not particularly interested in your constant petty picking at KO or any other commentators."

Just like you're tired of the "constant petty picking" of Bill O'Reilly "or any other commentators."

ImNotBlue you are one dizzy m'fer. Look over the posts during this past week. The only "substance" the Olbyhaters clung to in their comments was "Keith is hung like an 8 year old". Yeah, that's real insightful. Besides, J$ primarily uses his same arguments each day- Keith has no opposing views on his show; Keith hates Fox News; Keith is a fat ass; O'Reilly has better ratings; Shuster sucks up to Keith; Keith neglected to report (fill in the blank) story; et cetera.

Mike, 'You guys all suck' is petty compared to stating that 'you guys are inhuman'.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

"just like you're tired of the "constant petyy picking" of Bill O'Reilly or any other commentators."

Exactly...EVEN when it's Olbermann doing the picking!

The "constant petty picking 'of' Bill O' Reilly" used to petty ... before Bill O' Reilly starting using that one solitary molestation-victim boy as more of Bill O' Reilly's own evidence & back-up Bill O' Reilly was smart. Give it up, Bill O' Reilly!!!!! We all know that you are a big-shot over at whereever you want to be seen at, but it becomes truly dispicable when you yourself use innocent 11 year old victims as apart of your manipulation of the news!!!

Janet:

You sound a lot like your sulking. You set yourself up for my remarks by attacking my "emotional stand" on this war, as if there were something wrong with that.

Slippery Schuster again? What a bore
Re-run Richard Wolffe for some more
Keith's echo machine
Each night can be seen
On the network that viewers ignore

Obama Watch, I have trouble making sense of you. Some days I shake my head at your comments. On others I agree with you. Do you have multiple personalilties?

NeoCon Spin Cheat Sheet:

1.) If you are anti-war, you must be anti-troops.

2.) If you care about the death toll in Iraq, you must want it to increase.

3.) If you were against this war from the start, you just haven't thought hard enough about a way out.

4.) If you care about Iraqi civilians, you must be a terrorist sympathizer.

5.) If you want proper gear for our soldiers for as long as they are there, you must be a flip-flopping Demomcrat.

6.) If you want accurate news reports from the war (whether it fits with the story Bush is telling or not), you want to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

7.) If you disagree with Bush you are anti-american.

8.) If you don't think we should bomb Iran, you must love radical Islam.

9.) If you protest the war, you must have been one of those people who spit on Vietnam vets.

10.) If you're not a Chicken Hawk Right Wing Republicon Neocon, then you are ruining America and everything our founding fathers fought so hard to create.

Drink the Red Flavored Kool-Aid, Practice 1-10 in front of mirror until they sound believable.

Repeat as necessary...

Indierik: No multiple personalities, here. I do not like many cable news pundits from both sides of the aisle and I do feel that the Iraq War is not being reported from other angles than the explosive part. I feel journalistic integrity comes when you explore both sides of an issue, not one like Keith Olbermann or Grapevine Brit Hume.

Obama... trotting out the same lies, night after night doesn't make a lot of sense. O'Reilly didn't exploit this child... he reported the inconsistencies in the situation... and to anyone who has thought about it, and stopped the knee jerk reactions, knows that he's making sense. You should read about it sometime... if you want to know the truth.

Mike... "Exactly...EVEN when it's Olbermann doing the picking!" I'm not about to check previous statements... but if what you say is true, than that is more-or-less respectable.

indierik... You're only reading what you want. Ignore the comments... because most of the people who comment here (both from the left and the right) are just looking for a fight, and aren't making smart arguments. But read Dollar's reviews. He's using quotes from the show, and links to the articles that prove his point. So argue that... not posted anger.

Obama... trotting out the same lies, night after night doesn't make a lot of sense. O'Reilly didn't exploit this child... he reported the inconsistencies in the situation... and to anyone who has thought about it, and stopped the knee jerk reactions, knows that he's making sense. You should read about it sometime... if you want to know the truth.

Mike... "Exactly...EVEN when it's Olbermann doing the picking!" I'm not about to check previous statements... but if what you say is true, than that is more-or-less respectable.

indierik... You're only reading what you want. Ignore the comments... because most of the people who comment here (both from the left and the right) are just looking for a fight, and aren't making smart arguments. But read Dollar's reviews. He's using quotes from the show, and links to the articles that prove his point. So argue that... not posted anger.

"I watch the show, So why in blazes would I want to read a biased 'recap' written by a political attack dog."

Let's see last night he was paid but I guess no pay stubs?

About as real as those 2 copy's of "Culture Warrior" for $25 on Amazon.

But why let facts stand in the way! Just throw anything out like your hero.

Or since it's just the format, anybody who is sitting in the chair.

To spew out talking points?

imnotblue can read, also I think he has an open mind and likes to get different points of view. Unlike some that must get headaches if they listen or watch anything else than the one point of view.

imnotblue can read. And(are you ready for this wild concept!) He can decide. It's called free thinking.

Anonymous poster went through a time warping wormhole and became imnotblue at the same very time... You (both of you - ?) aren't cancelling the knee-jerk reactions and reading what I have stated: I said this...

"...molestation-victim boy as more of Bill O' Reilly's own evidence & back-up Bill O' Reilly was smart." Not that Bill O' Reilly was exploiting him. Bill O' Reilly does not exploiting him, necessarily, he was using that boy to show everybody how compassionate and intelligent he was on issues when h made that soliloquy on the kid's relation to his kidnappers and situation. Bill O' loves doing that . He loves showing the world what a good person he is by talking the talk on whatever sticky situation that he hears about. Just like Nancy Grace, only on issues o victimization, with her. Indierik/noname: He keeps on bringing up the kid after repeated inquires that he should stop from the victim's parents !!!!! I mean ... is Bill O' Reilly even human ?!?!?

Yeah... I hit the "Post" button before filling in all my info. Great job figuring that out. You're like a detective or something.

"He keeps on bringing up the kid after repeated inquires that he should stop from the victim's parents !!!!! I mean ... is Bill O' Reilly even human ?!?!?"

Okay, so what you're saying is Bill can't talk about a case that people might have sympathy for, and people might agree with Bill. Ummm, what? Because it makes him look good to be sympathetic, he shouldn't do it. Isn't that just being annoyed that he doesn't fit your own personal view of what he should be?

The parents can ask, but this is a big news story... and as Bill has correctly explained, it's an important story for parents to hear, so they can know how to better protect their own children, and of the dangers lurking "out there." It would be nice if we didn't have to talk about it at all... but we do, it happened, so now we should learn something from it. Ignoring the past, means we are destined to repeat it.

Mike, if you can't stand by your own words exactly who do you think should do it for you.

I reminded you of YOUR words.

As you have said more than once, we should be EMOTIONALLY opposed to this War on Terror, Battle of Iraq. And any who are not opposed are inhumane, read NOT HUMAN.

A sophistic approach that assures you the self satisfying moral high ground.

Think about it, Mike. All who disagree have left their humanity behind. Your sentiment, not mine.

I ask you again, why can't you make an argument that does not depend upon the article of faith that all who disagree are immoral?

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Janet are you arguing the cost of lives should never be considered in weighing whether to go to war?

"because most of the people who comment here (both from the left and the right) are just looking for a fight, and aren't making smart arguments."- ImNotBlue

You're speaking as though you're above this. When you make statements like "Show me that you're paying attention..." and "when you don't really make any arguments other than "YOU GUYS ALL SUCK!" it seems to me as though you are the one attempting to pick a fight.

Citizen Keith referenced Citizen Kane on the Murdoch Piece.....amazing.

Who gives a f--- about Scooter Libby? Most people dont even know who in the hell Scooter Libby is and could care less about him. But to MHKB (man head kid body) olberman, this is his lead story night after night. Liberals like slippery shuster and MHKB olberman were so damn sure that Karl Rove was going to jail for outing a CIA agent that they bet the farm on it. Too bad that the f---ing farm has been foreclosed on and repossesed by the bank and now shuster and olberman are homeless.

"Who gives a f--- about Scooter Libby?"

Those of us concenred about govemrent abuse of power.

"Most people dont even know who in the hell Scooter Libby is and could care less about him."

Most smart politically aware people know who he is. A few morons such as yourself might not.

indierik... come on, this isn't your first night here.

"Show me that you're paying attention..." That's exactly it. Show me that you're reading... show me that you know what's going on... show me that you're not just here to babble, but to defend your point. So far, not much.

"when you don't really make any arguments other than "YOU GUYS ALL SUCK!" Dude... come on. Read the blog... "YOU GUYS ALL SUCK" would be like 10 times nicer than some of the things said here. Be realistic.

"you are the one attempting to pick a fight." If by "picking a fight" you mean calling you out for not actually being able to defend Olbermann, than sure... why not.

"Citizen Keith referenced Citizen Kane on the Murdoch Piece.....amazing."

It is amazing, he is cultrued and well-read. Can anyone imagine O'Reilly quoting Shakespeare, or even Kane. Not smart enough.

"it's an important story for parents to hear"

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I am not buying it, Imnotblue. Guess what... this case is not worthy of repeat. Not by a tabloid shmuck like Bill O' Reilly who just is not talking about the case in a discreet way. He just goes off and brings child into the spot light and the people who are getting this person to host their convention are just catering to the bleeding heart conservatives once again. There is no ethics in cable news today. Nope. Not if you ask me. All I see are a bunch of jackals that are jumping on a jitterly good story for them to all blast off about and get themselves to have their 15 minutes of solemn. Although ... there is no solemn here. This kid keeps on being brought up time and time again because his story is interesting. Bill & friends are not offering the time off needed to recover because his story is so good. Where is the justice? Where is anybody saying "Hey, you know what ... we spent too much time covering this story asbou a rape victim."?!? There is none. There was none for Michael Schiavo and there will be none as long as there are reporters out there with too little time to search for a topical story in need of discussing.

Peter Griffin & Olbermann the same guy? Classic! Maybe there should be a look -alike contest. I nominate this guy--- http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b87/SCTVFan1/UrbanTransit.jpg

Well where the f--- were you when your hero Bill fellatio Clinton lied to the American people and wagged his finger in our faces? Oh, that's right, it was only about "SEX". You weren't too worried about abuse of government power then were you Mr. "no balls" anonymous?

"A sophistic approach that assures you the self satisfying moral high ground".

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 7, 2007 9:50 PM

Thank you for demonstrating the essence of the word "pretentious".
Well done , Grammie !

Janet:

Your arguments cease to make sense to me. Its as if you are goading me to keep saying it over and over again?

It's SO simple...if I take the moral argument out of my anti-war position, then there would be NO argument at all, would there?

As for your "war on terror" reference, you've always considered the war in Iraq and the "war on terror" as one and the same, but I think it will come as no surprise to you that I never have, and never will. It's a smoke screen

Sure why not...keep throwing troops at them...maybe our persistance will pay off with another 3000 lives or so. If it doesn't, oh what the hell, we tried!

February 07, 2007
Timeline for Wilson's mission has been wrong (updated)
Clarice Feldman

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2007/02/timeline_for_wilsons_mission_h.html

From the outset, Joseph Wilson IV has insisted he was sent to Niger at the Vice President's behest. As more facts about the trip became known and the Vice President vehemently denied this claim, the scenario appeared that the CIA sent him after Cheney raised a question in an intelligence report, and that the Vice President was utterly unaware of the Mission to Africa.

This notion was reinforced when the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (SSCI) reported that the agency managed to act remarkably quickly, approving the trip so close in time after the inquiry.

But we have just learned in the course of the Libby Trial that even that timeline is wrong:

(a) Plame recommended her husband for this trip before the vice president even asked about the report;

(b) the SSCI never knew this because the CIA never turned over her memorandum of recommendation to the committee.

Why did the agency hold back this information and allow this misstatement of fact to sit on the public record for so long?

Captain Ed and Byron York have the details. York writes:

The accepted version of events is that Vice President Dick Cheney got things started when he asked for information about possible Iraqi attempts to purchase uranium in Africa. After that request, CIA employee Valerie Plame Wilson suggested sending her husband to look into the question, and after that, the CIA flew Joseph Wilson to Niger to investigate. But the new documents suggest that Mrs. Wilson suggested her husband for the trip before the vice president made his request. In other words, Joseph Wilson's visit to Niger, which everyone believes was undertaken at the behest of the vice president, was actually in the works before Dick Cheney asked his now-famous question. And if that is true, our current understanding of the chronology of events is wrong. [...]

A CIA official told the committee that Mrs. Wilson "offered up [Joseph Wilson's] name" for the job, and the Senate report quoted the e-mail written by Mrs. Wilson saying, "my husband has good relations with both the PM [prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity."

According to the Senate report, Valerie Plame Wilson sent her e-mail on February 12, 2002 - the day before the vice president was briefed on the African uranium matter. The discrepancy between the two dates seems glaring, but was not included in the Senate report. That is because, according to a source familiar with the committee's investigation, the CIA did not include the document in the materials it turned over to the committee. Senate investigators apparently never knew the exact date of the vice president's request, so they never knew it came after Plame's e-mail.

What does the new information mean? On February 12, 2002, the Defense Intelligence Agency released - inside the government, not publicly - a report covering the Africa uranium issue; its title said that Niger had "signed an agreement to sell 500 tons of uranium a year to Baghdad." CIA officials told Senate investigators the report spurred requests for information from both the State Department and the Department of Defense. Knowledgeable sources speculate - and they stress, they are speculating - that those inquiries from State and Defense were made on the 12th, the day the Defense Intelligence Agency report was sent around, and that Valerie Plame Wilson, in suggesting her husband be sent to investigate, was reacting to those requests, and not to the vice president's question, which came the next day. In this new version of events, Dick Cheney was the last guy to request more information, not the first; the notion that his request started the whole affair seems wrong.

A Suggestion
George Bush has started an ill-timed and disastrous war under false pretenses by lying to the American people and to the Congress;
he has run a budget surplus into a severe deficit; he has consistently and unconscionably favored the wealthy and corporations over the rights and needs of the population;
he has destroyed trust and confidence in, and good will toward, the United States around the globe;
he has ignored global warming, to the world's detriment;
he has wantonly broken our treaty obligations;
he has condoned torture of prisoners;
he has attempted to create a theocracy in the United States;
he has appointed incompetent cronies to positions of vital national importance.

Now, would someone please give him a blow job so we can impeach him?

CW: Eilenne Bachmann kissed him !!!

Obama- "this case is not worthy of repeat."

I really don't know what to say to this. You must live in a world where you don't want to know bad things. But bad things happen... and knowing about them, and learning about them, and figuring out how to stop them or prevent them makes us better as a society. In your world, terrorism doesn't exist. Racism was barely a blip on your radar. And the murder of millions of innocents for whatever backwards reason, is something best left for unread history books.

This is not how we improve as a people. This is how we pretend to live in a fantasy world, until the real world bites us in the ass, and all the freedoms be currently take for granted become just another "forgotten memory from the past."

The perfect defense against impeachment......Dick Cheney!

Now, would someone please give him a blow job so we can impeach him?

That's Funny!

Now, would someone please give him a blow job so we can impeach him?

That's Funny!

Posted by: at February 7, 2007 10:16 PM

Funny... but wrong. Clinton was impeached because he lied to a grand jury about it, and more damning, directly to the American people.

But, ignoring all that... it does continue to leave me "un-WOW-ed" that any Olby supporters can't really defend him or anything he says. I'm a little disappointed.

"Dick Cheney was the last guy to request more information, not the first; the notion that his request started the whole affair seems wrong."

"Seems wrong". So then you are alluding to...?

That Dick Cheney just "seems" like the guy from Haliburton who handed picked George W Bush as the guy the blue state soldiers would march behind to their deaths in Iraq so Iraqi oil reserves would be under Chevron Exxon/Mobile control?

Or that Cheney just seems like point man for billionaires who need a tax break because everyone knows it's harder to make these days a mere billion dollars.

CW, I wasn't aware that Chevron Exxon/Mobile controlled Iraq's oil. Where'd you read that?

But here's the important bit... When you say "seems" you need to have some sort of evidence on your side to lead you to a logical conclusion. So far, your "seems" are just "Cheney bad" idea... your quoted "seems" are based on sworn testimony. It's a shame you can't tell the difference.

The #4 story about Blackwater: Funny that Olbermann would lionize these specific individual deaths and be outraged by it. Aren't these the exact same folks about whom Kos famously eulogized "Screw 'em!"? Why yes it is!

And a note on #3. Did anyone else find it odd that Rachel Maddow (and Olbermann) would describe FOX's ratings as disapointing? That's like Payton Manning complaining that Michael Vick has "lost a step".

A)"I really don't know what to say to this. You must live in a world where you don't want to know bad things. But bad things happen..."

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B)"In your world, terrorism doesn't exist."

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C)"This is not how we improve as a people. This is how we pretend to live in a fantasy world, until the real world bites us in the ass,..."

-Imnotblue
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A: LOL! Yes I live in a world where bad things happen! LOL! You bet I do! You do, and all others do as well. Now let us at Bill O' Reilly, once again... This guy I am not sure if he lives in a world where bad things happen to the point where he realizes that when I see him reporting about molestation kidnappings ... AS THOUGH THEY HAPPENED FOR HIS TALKING POINTS MEMO! Not as though they are REAL TRAUMATIC EXPERIANCES where junior needs some time to get over them and try to return for a normal pubity. Now, 2 MILLION PEOPLE KNOW WHO THE KID IS !!!!!!!!!!

B: If you want to know how I feel about war, go over to a different comment section. You think that I look at all cases in the same way ... stereotyper.

C: Oh ... If Bill O' Reilly's and Nancy Grace's programs are learning and healing outlets ... they sure fooled me! For ... all I se are a couple of raings/fanhood hogs that are using their mediums to show the world how much they care! Well ... if they really cared --- they would stop using their reports as though they were just a peepshow for the masses that are too dumb to realize that they should not be watching the detailed analyzations of other people's misfortunes!!! These things happen, and they should be reported --- BUT FOR GOODNESS SAKES --- DO NOT HARP ON THE STORIES AND MAKE FORTUNES REVEALING THE DETAILS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE NOW TRYING TO COPE!!!!! There is no tact, discretion or respect amoungst these tabloid junky cable news outlets --- and it shows more than ever.

Thank goodness 2 million people watch FOX News and not listen to the returned Air America political machine. What were we thinking reather than listen to the censored by punditry political observations of people that are commited to their worldviews... we can all hear about the initial sufferins of a child!!! Oh joy !!!!!!!!!!

"Funny... but wrong. Clinton was impeached because he lied to a grand jury about it, and more damning, directly to the American people. " by ImNotBlue

You're a f---ing moron. MY GOD, we don't have enough time to go over every freaking lie Shrub & Co have told to the American people. You are truly an idiot.

Uberloon compares FoxNews to cancer-causing cigarettes and obscure radio personality Rachel Maddow (err America) nods her head in lemming-like agreement... NBC journalism at it's finest.

CW, I wasn't aware that Chevron Exxon/Mobile controlled Iraq's oil. Where'd you read that?Posted by: ImNotBlue at February 7, 2007 10:29 PM
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First you tell me where I wrote Chevron Exxon/Mobile controlled Iraq's oil?

You're an idiot. Typical spinning that scum sucking pussies like Hannity or O'lielly would do.

I did not write they did control Iraqi oil, how is that your pea brain would fail to properly read what I wrote. This isn't Fox News, you are not expected to be in a delusional state of mind. This is reality and in this reality you are a dumb ass coward that see what he wants to see and then believes it - just the way Fox News has taught you to think.

You're f---ing dumb ass and it shows.

Keep trying pretend you are significant.

And it seems that 70% of the population of this nation has had all the proof the need to want an end to the fascist regime of Bush/Cheney two the worst criminals to hold office in the history of this nation? Why? Why have then been empowered to create so much death and destruction? The bankrupting our nation coffers? Why does nearly the entire world hate them and are hating our citizens more each day?

The answer is simple - the same evil so-called evangelicals spawned from the post segregation humiliation of the culture of the Klan reared their vile head once more. Organised behind the Rove/Cheney News Corp machine and set out to take the second largest oil reserve on this planet - Iraq.

You suck you anti-American anti-constitutional democracy coward!

You're a f---ing moron. - Shaun at February 7, 2007 10:47 PM

You're an idiot. ... You're f---ing dumb ass and it shows. Keep trying pretend you are significant. - CW at February 7, 2007 10:51 PM

Clearly I was way off base when I said people here don't defend Olbermann, and simply use the old "YOU GUYS ALL SUCK!" argument.

After 2 hours, not one person defending Olbermann. Not even one person tried.

Oh well... I guess that's all that needs to be said.

Thanks for playing!

You suck you anti-American anti-constitutional democracy coward!

Posted by: CW at February 7, 2007 10:51 PM

Hiya, Coward Watch!

"we can all hear about the initial sufferins of a child!!! Oh joy !!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Obama Watch Us Bicker in Technicolor at February 7, 2007 10:39 PM"

2 million? That's all? I know their more idiots than that in this nation.

I am one of those people who watches Fox News. Why? Because unlike you, I give a shit about the future of this nation. I respect the sacrifices made by the men who wore our uniform and died to make and hold our freedoms.

I want to know my enemy so I can stand up to him/it and defend this nation from it.

Fox News is a disease, and you are the brain dead vomit it produces.

Hiya, Coward Watch!

Posted by: Cecelia at February 7, 2007 10:58 PM

Hiya, Cecelia

CW

CW: Did you watch where a FOX "News" program spent 3 fourths of it's air time talking about the femae astronaught that went from Texas from Florida to assault someone? If you didn't you just might be giving less s*** about our future. FOX is a lousy example of the future of this nation --- they hook their viewer with scandal and tabloid stories. Some defenders of the future of our nation.

CW,

You are sounding a little unhinged tonight.

Now I got it! You think that I meant that we can all hear about the sufferin[g]s of a child litterally. Nope --- you missed the point. That was facetious sarcasm.

Democrat Stratigery

Call Sadam a threat to the world with weapons of mass destruction after Bill Clinton bombs them to change the subject of his lying to a grand jury.

After 9/11 say that Bush is not acting quickly enough to bring terrorists to justice and say that Bush has done nothing about the threat of Sadam.

When Bush attacks Iraq, claim he started the war too quickly but when it comes up for vote, vote for it so that if it goes well, you can take credit for it. If it goes badly state that you said Bush went to war too quickly. Also do not vote to fund the war just so that you can blame troop’s death on the president.

Once the war goes badly, claim you were tricked by the crafty president tricked you into voting for the war but claim that the president is too stupid to be commander and chief because he did not send enough troops.

When the president wants to send more troops claim that this is the worst plan in the world and will never work. Then claim that you are going to stop the troop surge with a toothless resolution that does nothing. Do not vote to cut funds incase the troop surge works, then you can say you funded a troop surge that won the war.

Look at the cute lil' Factor ... he knows about "Democrat Strategery". That is so cuooooooooooooote!!! That is right, you are! He knows about his enemy's "strategery" !!! That is so cute. Awwwwwwwww...

ImNotBlue- I read through J$ analysis of tonight's show. There's really not much that he dubunked with facts or stats. He made many unsubstantiated claims (Iran is supplying the insurgents. Is this true? Probably. But I'm still waiting for the concrete evidence that would justify a few Daisy Cutters dropped in Tehran.) Many of his provided links (Russert Hammered) was a link to a red blog. Hardly an unbiased source. J$ brought up those at Fox that were critical of the Iraq policy that Olby didn't name. Besides Alan Colmes I don't recall the others he named as being critical before the war through now. Hell, Wes Clark was hired on at Fox well after we entered the war. So once again J$ mainly criticized Keith's tone in his coverage and what he chose to cover.

I believe that J$ could do a much better job at tearing into Olby if he allowed himself more time to research. I realize that part of this site's appeal is that he has his commentary up and running within 15 minutes of the conclusion of Countdown. I'm actually very impressed at how quickly he's able to post. I know J$ likes to poke fun at www.mediamatters.org, but whether you like their coverage of pundits or not, they do a very good job researching. So unless J$ decides to slow down the process this site will always be a low-end rip off of Media Matters for the right.

G-nite and G-luck.

they hook their viewer with scandal and tabloid stories. Some defenders of the future of our nation.

Posted by: Obama Watch Us Bicker in Technicolor at February 7, 2007 11:04 PM

And yet you come here and quote nearly word for word the exact mind set Fox News has been molding pea brains into since it's inception.

Go Figure. Fox News got Bush and the hillbilly congress elected. They got more than 3000 of GI's dead as a result. You think all you have do is say it and if-so fact-so it is true? You pretend you are not a Fox News junkie. Only in your delusions!

You just make shit up. You are a poser. You come here and pretend you are part of a debate.

Cecilia is most well read person on YOUR side of the isle here. And she sticks to details of facts. She knows better than to try to get philosophical about what this country was founded on. And it wasn't Christianity. It was freedom from Christianity. Now we all see why. All this anger and arguing is about how simple it is to dupe simple minded folk into going war to die doing the bidding of the rich and powerful. And when it all gets out of hand - when the population wakes up from the con job - the constitution is all you got left to prevent the rich and powerful from taking all our rights away.

I just wish you democracy hating a--holes were forced to take, study, and learn American history. And not white southern - "The South Shall Rise Again" Confederate flag waving history either. You know the kind that says the earth is 6000 years old and that environmentalists are fools for trying to leave a livable planet for their children "cuz God is just gonna destroy it anyway"!

You got a point an opinion? Try forming one and posting it instead posting your nonsense and denials!

When the president wants to send more troops claim that this is the worst plan in the world and will never work. Then claim that you are going to stop the troop surge with a toothless resolution that does nothing. Do not vote to cut funds incase the troop surge works, then you can say you funded a troop surge that won the war.

Posted by: The Factor at February 7, 2007 11:16 PM

Point the finger at the Democrats and hope the nation forgets the a--holes that really supported the stupidest foreign policy maker to ever be president. It's your faults a--holes, every time I hear on the news that more of our troops died I blame you. You used our military men for your fantasy democracy and got them killed. You have no shame. You are evrything that this country has been wise enough to avoid being for over two hundred years. You will be on the scrap heap of history along with all the other tyrants.

CW,

Time to go put on your buffalo outfit again!

REALLY to be HONEST the only thing I WATCH on Olbermann anymore is the ODDBALL segments which is on around %:27 here in WA state.... beside THAT I mean he is a TRAIN WRECK waiting to happen....
if ANYONE pulls ANOTHER OPERATION TAILWIND if someone told me it was going to be Olbermann I wouldn't be shocked....
I mean this guy actually SCARES me......

Factor- I agree with much of your "Democrat Stratigery". Many of those that voted for this terrible waste of our servicemen lives were too gutless and lacking conviction when they approved Bush's debacle. I wish I lived in an age when politicians were viewed as respectable, principled people serving the public. But at 34 years old my first political memory is of Carter botching the hostages in Iran. Besides a few moments of temporary pacific times, things haven't since been much better.

I mean this guy actually SCARES me......

Posted by: Roger_W_Isom at February 7, 2007 11:27 PM

What scares me is people who concern themselves with celebrities and the size of their penis when more service men were killed today in a criminal war that these cock obsesed undersexed dimwits support.

Indierik: No multiple personalities, here. I do not like many cable news pundits from both sides of the aisle and I do feel that the Iraq War is not being reported from other angles than the explosive part. I feel journalistic integrity comes when you explore both sides of an issue, not one like Keith Olbermann or Grapevine Brit Hume.

Posted by: Obama Watch Us Bicker in Technicolor at February 7, 2007 9:31 PM

You seem to describe yourself as someone who's taking information from all sides, and is 'unbiased'. Is that what you're trying to say?

Because if it is, how come you said "Look at the cute lil' Factor ... he knows about "Democrat Strategery". That is so cuooooooooooooote!!! That is right, you are! He knows about his enemy's "strategery" !!! That is so cute. Awwwwwwwww..." at February 7, 2007 11:20 PM

But felt no need to do the same at 9:31 PM, when 'Who Would Jesus Bomb?' posted his/her "NeoCon Spin Cheat Sheet"?

Or when 'CW' said "I am one of those people who watches Fox News. Why? Because unlike you, I give a shit about the future of this nation. I respect the sacrifices made by the men who wore our uniform and died to make and hold our freedoms.
I want to know my enemy so I can stand up to him/it and defend this nation from it." at 10:59 PM

Why no posting then?

> Did you watch where a FOX "News" program spent 3 fourths of it's air time talking about the femae astronaught that went from Texas from Florida to assault someone? ...FOX is a lousy example of the future of this nation --- they hook their viewer with scandal and tabloid stories.

Obama Watch, for a while I thought you were a cut above the typical OlbyLoon. But now you post this sort of drivel, lifted wholesale from a website that has posted hundreds of lies, and my respect for you has sunk lower than Olbermann's testosterone count.

Not that it will matter to you, but here is the truth: they didn't spend 3/4 of an hour talking about the astronaut. They were giving live coverage to the NASA press conference. And Fox hooking viewers with tabloid stories? MSNBC made that ENTIRE whole hour an astronaut story special, even after the press conference ended. And guess what, Obama Watch? CNN spent even MORE time on the astronaut than Fox did.

That's right. Because you believe a discredited website that lies daily, you attacked Fox because, of all three cable news channels, it spent the LEAST amount of time on the astronaut story. Heaven forbid you actually see something before you criticize it. That would cramp your style immensely, because then you'd have to stick to the truth. Maybe.

"THE GREAT LEAK CASE: Tapes reveal the secret role of Dick Cheney!
MORE OF THE USUAL LIMP OLBERMANN CRAP"

"ImNotBlue- I read through J$ analysis of tonight's show.

Posted by: Obama Watch Us Bicker in Technicolor at February 7, 2007 9:31 PM

You seem to describe yourself as someone who's taking information from all sides, and is 'unbiased'. Is that what you're trying to say?
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Uhhh... This Bicker guy is most likely on some strong psychotropic drugs. He lives in a fantasy world. Sometimes he mixes his posts with the most outrageous contradictory bullshit you have to assume he is a bored joker a delusion mental patient who got his turn at the library computer.

Round One: Im Not Blue --- Conclusion: Annhilated.

Round Two: CW --- Commence...

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Statement #1: 'I quote the avg. Fox News mindset
conclusion: nope. I quote my own mindset. I do not care what other party taking lefter/righters care. I say what I feel about the media. The media I see does not take news seriously. Whether it is a child who is getting way too much attention for his problems or a war that is not covering the war in a way that fulfills both angels of the story. When I look up information about the war in Iraq, it is asthough they jump at the gammit to tell me how bad the war is going. Not objective and not what I think the news channels are obligated to do.

Statement #2: FOX News got Bush elected.
Conclusion: FOX News spins. So I guess they did get Conservatives to vote Bush. Correct!!!!!

Statement #3: I come here and pretend to be part of the debate
Conclusion: You are talking to me aren't you? I am not sure of what kind of conclusion to give this statement.

Statement #4: Cecelia dribble.
Conclusion: I am not going to defend Cecelia for her. Cecelia: If you have someting to say ... say it.

Statements #5-6: LOL!
Conclusion: LOL!

So there we have it. The conclusion? Coward Watch is trying to pick a fight with me because I am objective. Sorry C. W., I do not play games.

indierik... thank you.

But what about the bit about the Libby case?

And all the stuff in the "Muted mongrel" segment. Sometimes the stuff left out, can be the most telling.

Oh, and I agree 100% about J$'s ability to get the review posted so soon after the show ends. Impressive to say the least.

The Scooter now says Tim Russert is the cause of all these bad things happening to him.
These guys can't even tell good lies anymore.

What a pathetic party !

"It's SO simple...if I take the moral argument out of my anti-war position, then there would be NO argument at all, would there?"

Posted by: Mike at February 7, 2007 10:07 PM"

Thank you, Mike. So, if you rely totally on ONLY your moral argument, how does that apply to the past?

Were less than 3,000 dead at Pearl Harbor morally sufficient to declare war on Japan and lead to the ultimate suffering and death of millions? After all, FDR could have declared the next day that we had provoked the Japanese government by our belligerent embargoes on their vital resources and opposing their right to hegemony in the Pacific. How emotionally satisfying that would have been.

And we would have avoided all those pesky moral decisions over whether we should or should not have bombed rail lines and death camps. No questions later on if some high ranking FDR officials were anti semitic and greased the wheels of the Nazi death machines.

Not us. We could bask on the high ground of less than 3,000 US dead and the rest of the world be damned.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

"Round One: Im Not Blue --- Conclusion: Annhilated."

Obama... that was my favorite part of tonight. The part where you declared yourself a winner, without actually responding to my comment about how... well, you're not.

I'm going to award myself a sandwich now. Oh no wait... nevermind. My sandwich is real.

Obama Watch, for a while I thought you were a cut above the typical OlbyLoon. But now you post this sort of drivel, lifted wholesale from a website that has posted hundreds of lies, and my respect for you has sunk lower than Olbermann's testosterone count."

Awwwwwwe you're breaking my heart. Loss of respect? Hey respect is big when you are reduced to penis size as your best shot a guy who leveled the anti-American anti-constitutional democracy Fox News backed hillbilly Republican party.

Respect? Why the hell don't you posts some reports of GI's who come home to poverty because so many local governments are going bankrupt as Bush sends hundreds of billions of our dollars into the pockets of Haliburton and a handful of other war profiteering fellow anti- democracy military contractors.

You got any headlines beside KO's dick size? How many billions are unaccounted for in this war? You ever post one single intelligent thing? Or is all this drivel just about dick size?

More than 3000 dead GI's and you play hero to Fox News and Bill O'lielly!

How do so many fools live in a pretend world of their significance with ammo that never rises above dick size.

Talk about some real losers!

Grammie,

Mike and I long ago went through all of the World War II stuff, the atomic bombs, the fire bombing of Dresden, the millions of civilians killed, the stubborn, arrogant demand for unconditional surrender, the making the Germans the first priority, not the people who attacked us at Pearl Harbor, all of those things. But old Mike always finds a way to slip out of it, why it was OK then, but is a catastrophe now if one guy at Abu Ghraib has to do a naked pyramid. Finally Mike just said that "there are no 'universal truths' about war". He is the master of deflection.

CW, were you this upset when Olby was making fun of Rush for his Viagra pills?

By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer
Wed Feb 7, 6:20 PM ET

WASHINGTON - Three U.S. Army Reserve officers were indicted Wednesday, accused of taking part in a bid-rigging scam that steered millions of dollars for
Iraq reconstruction projects to a contractor in exchange for cash, luxury cars and jewelry.

An American businessman in Romania was charged as the go-between for the military officers and the contractor. The husband of one of the reservists was accused of helping smuggle tens of thousands of dollars into the United States that the couple used to pay for a deck and a hot tub at their New Jersey house.

Together, the five used the $26 billion Iraqi rebuilding fund "as their own personal ATM machines," Deputy Attorney General Paul McNulty said in announcing the charges.

"These defendants actually took bricks of stolen cash ... and smuggled them out of Iraq and back to the United States for their own personal use," McNulty said.

The 25-count indictment, filed in U.S. District Court in New Jersey, marks the latest development in an investigation of $8.6 million in Iraq contracts awarded to construction mogul Philip H. Bloom.

Bloom, an American citizen who ran construction and services companies under Global Business Group, has admitted to laundering at least $2 million that was stolen from reconstruction funds managed by the U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq. He awaits sentencing.

McNulty said the five people indicted Wednesday stole or otherwise misused $3.6 million from the CPA fund.

The three reservists - Col. Curtis G. Whiteford of Utah, Lt. Col. Debra M. Harrison of New Jersey and Lt. Col. Michael B. Wheeler of Wisconsin - were responsible for helping supervise the funding and progress of the CPA contracts in al-Hillah, Iraq, southwest of Baghdad.

In return for steering contracts to Bloom between 2003 and 2005, prosecutors said, the military reservists and their accomplices shared an estimated $1 million in cash, and were showered with Porsche and Nissan sports cars, a Cadillac SUV, real estate, a Breitling watch, business-class plane tickets, computers and other items.

Harrison's husband, William Driver, was charged with helping smuggle over $300,000 into the U.S., part of which was used for home improvements, prosecutors said.

One of Bloom's friends, businessman Seymour Morris Jr., allegedly acted as a go-between for the military officers and the construction company by illegally wiring money and securing the goods. Morris is a U.S. citizen who lives in Romania, and owns a Cyprus-based financial services business.

Charges against the five include bribery, conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering and transporting stolen property.

The indictment was unsealed the day after authorities arrested Morris in Romania. It also followed tough questioning Tuesday by House Democrats of the former U.S. occupation chief in Iraq over how he doled out up to $12 billion in Iraqi money without accounting for it.

At that hearing, in front of the a House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, L. Paul Bremer III repeatedly said he had spent Iraqi - not U.S. money. Bremer ran the country for 14 months.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents helped unravel the scheme by examining money trails and other data gleaned from computers, cell phones, global positioning systems and other devices, said Kumar Kibble, the agency's deputy assistant director for national security.

Stuart Bowen, the government's special inspector general in Iraq, said his team of 10 investigators are pursuing 80 cases of waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayer dollars in reconstruction contracts.

Last week, former CPA comptroller and funding officer Robert Stein, 52, of Fayetteville, N.C., was sentenced to nine years in prison for receiving kickbacks from Bloom in exchange for contracts.

Bribery and fraud "has not been a significant component of the American reconstruction experience over there, but where we found it, it has been egregious," Bowen said. "And this is an egregious example of it."

"declared yourself a winner..."

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2 things: 1) I did not declare myself a winner--- I declared you the loser. 2) You did not return many of my comments on tabloidization of the news.

Oh, and I agree 100% about J$'s ability to get the review posted so soon after the show ends. Impressive to say the least.

Posted by: ImNotBlue at February 7, 2007 11:37 PM
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Impressive? Or obsessed and over anxious to play the role of dragon slayer. Keith Olbermann is the dragon but Jny$ is no slayer.

His fantasy becomes yours. I would bet my last dollar all you democracy hating knight's in shining armor to the fair lady Fox News, were raised on role playing video games.

I love this illegal war mantra by the left.
Iraq violated a cease fire 17 times.
What would we have done if Japan violated their cease fire 17 times?
How about Germany?
How about North Korea?
Explain where the illegal part is?

I love this illegal war mantra by the left.
Iraq violated a cease fire 17 times.
What would we have done if Japan violated their cease fire 17 times?
How about Germany?
How about North Korea?
Explain where the illegal part is?
Posted by: The Factor at February 7, 2007 11:51 PM

What is missing from this laughable list? Weapons of mass destruction. Saddam is out to build an atom bomb. The conversion of Saddam Hussain into Al khaida

The Factor also lost points for not converting his list into a limerick.

"democracy hating knight's in shining armor"

CW... so you believe that part of democracy is to not allow a news network (which allows people you disagree with to talk) to broadcast? Which part of democracy and "free speech" is that again?

Obama- I answered you posts earlier. Since you were just saying the same things over and over again... I moved on. If you dislike the "tabloidation" of news... then watch C-SPAN... cause it's everywhere. Media needs to make money, and to do that people need to watch. If you don't like it, read the blogs, and don't watch the tube. It's pretty simple.

But what do I know... I'm just a loser in a debate with no winner... whatever the heck that means. Poetic, though.

I love this illegal war mantra by the left.
Iraq violated a cease fire 17 times.
What would we have done if Japan violated their cease fire 17 times?
How about Germany?
How about North Korea?
Explain where the illegal part is?
Posted by: The Factor at February 7, 2007 11:51 PM
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What is missing from this laughable list? Weapons of mass destruction. Saddam is out to build an atom bomb. The conversion of Saddam Hussein into Al Qaeda.

And Now Iran is the most powerful nation in the region. They are begging us to bomb them so their population will hate us more than they hate their own fundamentalist government. Bush is stupid enough to do it.

War monger is translated into reactionary coward. You gonna sit here and tell me that Jesus approves of the deaths of the more than 100,000 innocent men women and children in Iraq in response to your cowardly list of bull shit against the most powerful military in the world?

You are an idiot.

CW, So what should we do about Iran?

Oh, and didn't the NY Times say that Saddam was less than a year away from getting a nuke?

And would Jesus have approved of Saddam torturing, raping, and killing his own innocent people?

Posted by: ImNotBlue at February 7, 2007 11:59 PM

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"Obama- I answered your posts earlier. Since you were just saying the same things over and over again..."
Funny --- because I feel that I was expounding my points more indepth each time. Maybe you need to read it all over again and comprehend what I meant each different post.

C-Span only comment
With that kind of rhetoric- they win.

"Media needs to make money and to do that people need to watch."
I agree wholeheartedly, 110% The media should make money. However, they should not contort the news in the process, especially to the point where they forget that an eleven year old kid that was kidnapped is not a scoop.

"...read the blogs and don't watch the tube."
No, I will read watch the tube --- just not the people that make trouble.

"democracy hating knight's in shining armor"

CW... so you believe that part of democracy is to not allow a news network (which allows people you disagree with to talk) to broadcast? Which part of democracy and "free speech" is that again?

Posted by: ImNotBlue at February 7, 2007 11:56 PM

Again you use Fox News - Sean Hannity bull shitting to imply I suggest this. Yet you do this while lending nightly support to a web page that does the same - attacks news media.

I need not respond to your bull shit I just tell you to educate yourself about American history. How we became the most powerful nation in the world was not down a path of media like we have today. Fox News and more to the point News Corp is legal only because the monopoly laws for owning media of all forms in this nation were destroyed starting back in the Reagan addmin.

How stupid do you have to be to not get it? Media control equals propaganda control. When you have nation of fast food eating video game playing obese - I'm going to heaven - Christians, it is a slam dunk to lead them all of to die in a war for the benefit of the very rich.

All this bull shit about Iraq attacking this nation is for a--holes who live in world self induced delusions.

15 of the 19 men who leveled the WTC were from Saudi Arabia - Bush family country. None were from Iraq. But you know this. You just like to play pretend games because admitting you are loser in this debate is too painful for coward like you to deal with.

All this bull shit about Iraq attacking this nation is for a--holes who live in world self induced delusions.

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Like, perhaps, delusions that involve the Mehdi End-Times?!? You know Saddam would have wanted it, just like alot of other maniacs in that region that we are trying to face.

Well, all I can say (and I'm not going to bother pointing all the wrong in what you just said, because there are only so many hours in the day) is thank God.

Thank God that some people have managed to escape the "fast food eating video game playing obese - I'm going to heaven - Christian" populous, to insult people he/she disagrees with a blog.

Thank God for you CW... You are the proof that there are still people in this world diluted and intolerant enough to view themselves as the sole decider of right and wrong, of truth and fallacies... and to appoint their ideas the only one's valid for dissemination to the masses.

Thank you CW, for thinking you are as great as you think you are.

CW, Do we get to lock up all the Democrates who voted for the war since it was illegal? How about Tony Blair too. You might not have any canidates to vote for in 08.

CW, So what should we do about Iran?

Oh, and didn't the NY Times say that Saddam was less than a year away from getting a nuke?

And would Jesus have approved of Saddam torturing, raping, and killing his own innocent people?

Posted by: ImNotBlue at February 8, 2007 12:06 AM
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If any of you want to know why I go ballistic on the heroes for Fox News here all you have to do is look at the post above.

All those people raped and tortured in Iraq have the US and it's allies to blame.

Great Briton created the borders of Iraq. The US and much of our allies in Europe fed him all the weapons (including for making chemical weapons) he wanted as long as he created hell for Iran and in general destabilized the region. The out come was that all the nations in the getting American dollars for their oil were compelled to turn around and spend much of it on weapons they bought from... yep you guessed it American military contractors and the same with europian contractors.

The Arab world, and Muslim world in general, hate us for the simple reason that this world is over loaded with A-bombs and every other kind of weapon of destruction you can dream of. All of them for getting and holding oil as the planet runs out of it.

The hell the people of the middle east live in was managed for decades only by those powerful enough to do it. Who is the most powerful? Saddam? No f---ing way.

Saddam was our puppet. More than a million Iranians died as we fed both sides weapons.

Iran has good reason to despise us. What the hell would you be feeling right now if China and Russia fed Mexico all the weapons they needed to lure us into a war and then have one million Americans die?

As is the usual case with brain dead fake flunky hillbilly Fox News idiots like you, you have no clue about jack shit.

You only know of the propaganda lies and bullshit from the media whores on FOX and CNN and even MSNBC. Keith is a rare one that gives me hope. But I know he was a product of Bush's failure. MSNBC was behind the invasion. They just happened to be the first to say it is wrong to support it any more.

Murdoch even admits he was behind getting us there. The guy is megalomaniac who can't help himself. And you know shit about this man I am sure.

CW, Do we get to lock up all the Democrates who voted for the war since it was illegal? How about Tony Blair too. You might not have any canidates to vote for in 08.

Posted by: The Factor at February 8, 2007 12:29 AM
No you idiot we only get to call a--hole like out on the carpet for saying 2 wrongs makes a right.

The democrats were behind the oil grab. What they we not expecting was the total incompetence of the hillbilly congress and administration. All you have to do is look at Katrina in New Orleans to see the backward incompetence of it all. What is mind blowing for people like me is to realize their are people like you who can be such cowards when it comes to your nation.

I feel confident everyone of you heroes to Fox News and admirers to the biggest pussy in the world Sean Hannity, have no education at all in American history. All you have is your hillbilly anger that educated people look down on you.

You don't have to be that smart to see it is poor people dieing in Iraq and rich people getting richer. More than $450 billion so far. Where the hell do you think that money went? You think these CEO's and rich stock holders are making any sacrifice at all for this war to take control of the heart of this planet's oil supplies?

You live in a pretend world. Big gas guzzling SUV's with "I support our troops" yellow ribbons on them. Now how f---ing stupid do you have to be to not realize we are in Iraq because of our dependence on imported oil?????

You may note we are not in N Korea or Iran or Afghanistan (in any significant way).

Dumb f---ing people who think getting an education is a waste of time are the only people who suck up the bull shit from our media - CNN MSNBC or Fox. Their is no major media in this nation not owned and controlled by huge corporations.

Thank you CW. You just show us the mindset of a liberal. All else fails, attack America. Its America's fault that terrorists hate us. The United States deserved to be attacked on 9/11. The terrorist are just freedom fighters. Thanks CW. You proved why you are the enemy within

Thank you CW. You just show us the mindset of a liberal. All else fails, attack America. Its America's fault that terrorists hate us. The United States deserved to be attacked on 9/11. The terrorist are just freedom fighters. Thanks CW. You proved why you are the enemy within

Posted by: The Factor at February 8, 2007 12:47 AM

--- So I will take this a one more denial on your part and of course a Sean Hannity special "Blame America liberal" You are so predictable.

You revert to the hannity response. Now show us all you are not the dumb f---ing hillbilly I say you are point out where I was wrong. Did Great Briton decide draw up Iraq. Did the US and it's allies sell (and still are more than ever before) weapons to most of the nations in the region while Saddam was destabilizing with our direct aid?

All you got are the coward pussy double talk of Sean Hannity. That's it. Fox News crap substitutes for an education. This is why this nation is in the mess it is in. Because most of them are fat and mentally lazy. TV is the teat they suck on for total social development.

What is the number one show on tv? American Idol.

That says it all. States it most popular in? Yep you guessed it - Blue states!

Tell you dumb a--hole where America was not at fault for the mess we are in. You know what it means to take responsibility for something? I doubt it!

What nation is the most powerful? What nation holds the most wealth? What nation has the most responsibility for how this world is shaped?

You are low life that is the reason why so many people hate this nation. You are a coward that lives in fear of people that hate you. And you are too ignorant to own up to why?

Why do people hate you? Why do I think you and your kind are lowly cowards.

Could it be that I am old enough to have watched segregation end and to understand how millions of people who called themselves "Christ like" were the exact opposite.

The spawn of the culture of the Klan. This is why the rich and powerful are able to manipulate the people of this nation into getting us into this hell we are in in the middle east.

If it is about hate, death and destruction, you can bet the spawn of the Klan had a hand in it.

More than 400 years of slave trading followed by 100 years of segregation. This is your evangelical cultural foundation that your ideology climbed up from. The darkest evil this nation has never been able to shake has most likely got us into war that will never end.

Oil is running out. 6 billion people will soon be 10 billion and China will have control of at least half the oil we were depending on.

What does Bush do? Does spend $400 billion investing alternative energy or does he drop bombs and create death and destruction?

Save us Jesus - from your followers!

earnest angely

http://www.ernestangley.org/

Janet:

I just KNEW I could count on you to carry this litle debate full circle using WWII irrelevancies as an analogy...and I just KNEW I could count on Rico to butt in citing an equally circular and irrelevant argument.

Now, here I go again having to make that same "Iraq didn't attack us on 911" argument again. Why can't we move past that?

Can you please pay attention so we don't have to go over this again; IRAQ DIDN'T ATTACK US ON 911, or at any other time, for that matter. Now on to Japan; Japan DID attack us at Pearl Harbor. Provocations are not the issue in either case...Japan directly attacked us...Iraq did not. Why oh why is this so hard for you to understand? Yes Janet, SOMEBODY attacked us, but trust me, it wasn't Iraq.

Iraq was well contained and considerably weakened after the first Gulf War and had never recovered from that. We could have easily KEPT them in that box indefinitely. Meanwhile Saddam, as brutal as he was, did manage to keep the lid on that little powderkeg of sectarian hatrid...and like it or not, that was in our best interest.

Now we have gone and blown the lid off that powderkeg and who know the hell knows just where this is going to ultimately lead, but it is pretty clear that we cannot control or dictate the final outcome, no matter how much Rico believes we can.

Now Janet, back to the moral argument that you are so uncomfortable with please, because that IS what this is about!

Now, here I go again having to make that same "Iraq didn't attack us on 911" argument again. Why can't we move past that?

Programmed people are not thinking people like you. They formulate beliefs based on fear. Those beliefs are gathered from those who feed their fears, thus the "circular" practices in their arguments.

Now Janet (and Rico too):

There is going to be a multiple choice test in the morning, so pay attention now!

The question is going to be; Who attacked us on 911?

I'll give you one important hint about the answer...It was NOT Iraq!

Mike, you are here commenting too damn much, get a life. At least take a vacation.

YES!!
JUST LIKE TALKING POINTS SUSPECTED FROM THE BEGINNING!

You just show us the mindset of a liberal. All else fails, attack America. Its America's fault that terrorists hate us. The United States deserved to be attacked on 9/11. The terrorist are just freedom fighters. Thanks CW. You proved why you are the enemy within

Posted by: The Factor at February 8, 2007 12:47 AM

Talking points is proud to expose two more raving
extremists who hate America and blame America first:

(drum roll please)

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Falwell said, "What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact, God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."
Robertson replied, "Well, Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror, we haven't begun to see what they can do to the major population."
Falwell said, "The ACLU has got to take a lot of blame for this. And I know I'll hear from them for this, but throwing God...successfully with the help of the federal court system...throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad...I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America...I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen."
Robertson said, "I totally concur, and the problem is we've adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government, and so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do, and the top people, of course, is the court system."
Falwell added, "Pat, did you notice yesterday that the ACLU and all the Christ-haters, the People for the American Way, NOW, etc., were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress, as they went out on the steps and and called out to God in prayer and sang 'God bless America' and said, let the ACLU be hanged. In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time, calling on God."

PAT ROBERTSON AND JERRY FALWELL,
THE WORST ANTI-AMERICAN HATING LIBERALS IN THE WORLD!

Dr Fill says I "am here and commenting too damn much"....

You got a problem with that, "Dr. Fill"?

I don't see where it's any of your damned business. You wouldn't know how often I "am here and commenting too damn much" if you weren't here yourself reading "too damn much", now would you?

Olbermann is no different than Fallwell or Robertson. They are all Hate merchants. f--- em.

Mike , give it a rest. Maybe we will take you seriously again. Come back in a month.

'Fill':

Speak for yourself, and I don't give a damn who you take seriously!

PAT ROBERTSON AND JERRY FALWELL,
THE WORST ANTI-AMERICAN HATING LIBERALS IN THE WORLD!

Posted by: Billdo O'rally at February 8, 2007 1:25 AM

Billdo you are one more real American knows how to put truth to words. "American hating liberal" is the montra of Sean "the pussy coward" Hannity.

Pat Robertson is the inventor of the Fox News format of "news". It was the 700 Club who popularized bare knees women commentators sitting in a chair with no desk. Murdoch Took this style and much more from 700 Club and expanded on it.

Thank you Jesus, thank you lord (mick jager 1966)

"To see how liberal history is created, you need to tune into the nut-cable stations and watch their coverage of the Scooter Libby trial. On MSNBC they're covering the trial like it's the Normandy Invasion, starring Elvis Presley, as told by Joseph Goebbels.

MSNBC's "reportage" consists of endless repetition of arbitrary assertions, half-truths and thoroughly debunked canards. No one else cares about the trial — except presumably Scooter Libby — so the passionate left is allowed to invent a liberal fable without correction. "...

Olbermann is no different than Fallwell or Robertson. They are all Hate merchants. f--- em.

Posted by: QQ at February 8, 2007 1:31 AM

Posted by WatchUsBicker

And as always complete contradictory bullshit.

Ok, I'm done having fun with Mike. It's too easy to pull the strings. HA!

Mike , give it a rest. Maybe we will take you seriously again. Come back in a month.

Posted by: Dr Fill at February 8, 2007 1:33 AM

Also posted the fake named WUBicker

Some dunce keeps accusing me of being that twit, watch us bicker. HA! you dolts don't have a clue

MSNBC's "reportage" consists of endless repetition of arbitrary assertions, half-truths and thoroughly debunked canards. No one else cares about the trial — except presumably Scooter Libby — so the passionate left is allowed to invent a liberal fable without correction. "...

Posted by: www.anncoulter.com at February 8, 2007 1:37 AM

Being articulate with bullshit is still bullshit. Ann Cuntler is just one more hero wanna-be. Talk about a person who champions ignorance. This horse takes the prize as the worst of anti-democracy hate mongers.

Some dunce keeps accusing me of being that twit, watch us bicker. HA! you dolts don't have a clue

Posted by: QQ at February 8, 2007 1:43 AM

------------------------------------------------------------
What do you get out of this game you play? Posting under many names tells your foes you have resorted to creating imagined allies. How pathetic you look. I have to believe Cox must be aware of this, you do it so much. It is one more indication how insignificant the attendance is on the right on this page.

Wow, I suppose I could take on some fake names and have a debate with myself.

Ok, I'm done having fun with Mike. It's too easy to pull the strings. HA!

Posted by: Dr Fill at February 8, 2007 1:39 AM

Easy is as easy does. You are making a pathetic fool of this name. Time to change into another character. You got even one? Or just names?

I don't care if I have allies or not, I'm here for the same reason as B.Cox and Mr. Dollar. To make fun of the deplorable Keith Olbermann and you halfwits that love him. HA!

I see 'QQ' has just admitted to being 'Dr. Fill'.

I don't care if I have allies or not, I'm here for the same reason as B.Cox and Mr. Dollar. To make fun of the deplorable Keith Olbermann and you halfwits that love him. HA!

Posted by: Dr Fill at February 8, 2007 1:51 AM

So then your statement above is not really saying that you feel belittled and humiliated by the KO admirers who slam dunked your sorry ass every time you post your empty comments?

Let us all know when you have something to say that might hint you have clue about the realities of life and death that our soldiers face minute by minute while chump punks like you play your stupid games.

This new name is it your way of saying that you aren't really the dumb ass you portrait yourself to be?

And I can only shrug at the pathetic nature of Mr Cox and Mr Dollar with you as an example of a supporter.

I see 'QQ' has just admitted to being 'Dr. Fill'.

Posted by: Mike at February 8, 2007 1:57 AM

I feel confident that Brandon is behind about 10 different names on this page. One night he started with "Brandon" in was moving a bit fast to think while changed names over and over while dueling with me. I told him I failed to see the reason to create quantity of comment unless he felt the quality was lacking and he admitted to name changing.

I would not be surprised if one person (it may or may not be Brandon) is regularly posting all this very similar repetitive comments on other peoples posts without ever generating anything original.

It is reflection on the truly a pathetic nature of serious support this page gets from anyone on the right with a brain. The idea of page to attack the chief critique of Fox News is only out done by have page that out right defends Fox. That would be the odd named Johnny Dollar. Who uses such a name?

There is a slew of postings here with no name at all. At least I use a handle for you to grab onto. Seems to me that's more considerate than the Olbysupporters who remain annonymous.

Sorry CW, I'm not here to win hearts and change minds. I come to eagerly read Mr Dollars always succinct recap, and then amuse myself at the lengths you'all go to change the subject from the deplorable Keith Olbermann and his spin of the news. HA!

There is a slew of postings here with no name at all. At least I use a handle for you to grab onto. Seems to me that's more considerate than the Olbysupporters who remain annonymous.

Posted by: Dr QQ Fill at February 8, 2007 2:07 AM

Now I know this is WatchUsBicker.

Note the complete nonsense in this post.

First, we all are using the same names with the very different styles (indication of different people).

Saying we are posting as anons is a delusion contradiction to reality.

Then he says at least he is using the same name while signing with last 2 names he created in this last hour.

This is the depth of capabilities of the heroes of Fox News.

Sorry CW, I'm not here to win hearts and change minds. I come to eagerly read Mr Dollars always succinct recap, and then amuse myself at the lengths you'all go to change the subject from the deplorable Keith Olbermann and his spin of the news. HA!

Posted by: QQ at February 8, 2007 2:15 AM

So then you are saying you are Johny Dollar?

Who uses such a lame name????

Yawn, goodnite all.

I have been coming to this page for months. Never once have ever read a single paragraph written by Cox or John $.

Why would I ever give a benefit of the doubt to anyone who defends the most anti-American anti-democracy media outlet like Fox?

I hope you and Cox and all the rest of the pin heads one day grow up and have children who have to live in this world. Either you will all shape up or you will be ridiculed by your own for being so lame as to defend the rich and powerful simply because you felt safer in doing so.

Pathetic sell out cowards.

So how do you know they're pinheads if you don't read what they write?

FOX SUCKS! FOX SUCKS! AND NOT VERY WELL. LAND OF THE LIVING BRAIN DEAD.

Who is paying for this Worst site on the net? Mark Levin or Bill O?

How do you take a supposedly 24 hour cable tv news outlet when half of their programming is rerun after reun of f---ing prison shows? Oh yeah, I forgot. The inmates are part of the democratic base. Silly me.

Lets see do I believe Lewis "Scooter" Libby who I don’t know at all? Or do I believe Tim Russert who I know very well? I do know Russert is a pathological lair. He tells lies almost every time he’s on the air.

I’m go’in with “Scooter”

Lets put Russert on trail for every time he did damage to the C.I.A. or his country!

So CW... if you come back this morning...

You've blamed America, you've blamed England, you've blamed republicans, you've blamed democrats, you've blamed "blue staters" (which are democrats, as they are the blue ones, republicans are red, and you're apparently color blind), you've blamed all major news outlets, and in general you seem to think that it is you alone who can see the right and wrong in now and history.

So then answer my question, which you of course insulted me for asking... what do we do now. Imagining everything you've already said is true... which it's not, but lets pretend... what do we do now?

Whatever happened to MSNBC's Rita Cosby? She was one of a few "journalists" at MSNBC that actually did an honest days work... until Dan Abrams pulled the plug on her.

for indierik:

You complained about how J$'s coverage of Mr. Olbermann's show is basically the same thing over and over, day after day...

My question to you is.....Please explain how J$'s recap is any less repetitive than the show itself.

In case you haven't watched (and I know you do), Keith's show is a nightly regurgitation of the same storylines and guests:

1.) Seriously, how much is there a need for the Wolffe Man to be on roughly 50% of all shows?

2.) It is literally the same 5-10 "analysts" every single solitary night: Wolffe, Milbank, Crawford, Defrank, Dean, Odonnell, Musto, etc..(I know, I am forgetting a couple of the "usuals".

3.) A minimum of one, if not two or three, stories which result in commentary unfavorable to the President.

4.) Typically, at least one story regarding the Republican Scandal du jour...of course avoiding any and all stories unfavorable to any Democratic Scandal.

5.) Oddball

6.) Cruise News, or some offshoot or variety of tabloid journalism...typically at least two sections on this ("Keeping Tabs" and the "#1 Most Important Story of the Day)

7.) Worst Person in the World....which must, in virtually 100% of the instances, only be anonymous citizens, conservatives, or employees of Fox/Newscorp. The best instances are when the "Silver Medalist" is some mouth-breather who feeds crack to his 17 children...yet, the "Gold Medalist" would still be BillO for a quote on his show.

8.) The carefully timed out "Special Comment", which (to my knowledge) has been critical of President Bush or Republicans 100% of the time. If someone can recall so much as one single "Special Comment" that wasn't simply for the purpose of attacking Republicans, I would like to know. (Speaking of which, that would be another nice "List" for J$ or Bob Cox to add to the website, since we already have a list devoted to the guest list)

If the aforementioned items don't represent a minimum of 80-85% of the "news" show's content, then I will eat your hat.

So, again, please tell me how J$ is any less repetitive than the show he is covering?

Herm- they will push Joe out because he will refuse to take the liberal koolaid that MSNBC has been cramming down their pundits pie holes. Personally Tucker is my favorite, and he has enough anti-war rhetoric to keep Mike and Bushkill from hating him.

Olbermann is a funny guy. It's just comedy. Don't take him serious. He's a mental asylum guy!

WHAT IS THIS BLASPHEMY I'VE JUST READ?

MSNBC ACTUALLY HAS RIGHT WING HOSTS?!?!

LIES!! LIES!! LIES!! I TELL YOU!!!

As Talking Points has proven in numerous times,
there is not one single host at MSNBC that is not
part of the extreme secular progressive agenda!

Once again, I demand Mr. Immel pull the plug of MSNBC and turn over its facilities to FAUX NEWS,
so we may do the work of Our Lord and Saviour Chimpuskrist.

And that's a memo.

CALLING ALL ZOMBIES, CALLING ALL ZOMBIES, TUNE IN TO FOX IMMEDIATELY....IT'S TIME FOR A CHIP REPLACEMENT WITH NEW TALKING POINTS. RUPERT

3.) A minimum of one, if not two or three, stories which result in commentary unfavorable to the President.

TELL ME OHIO MIKE, WHAT HAS BUSH DONE LATELY THAT COULD BE FAVORABLE TO HIM ?

Last, but not least by any means, Waxman has an agenda that he has been chomping at the bit to enact. I'll wait for the full disclosures to make a decision on this.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 7, 2007 7:56 PM

Grammie's still waiting for the full disclosures of the Abramoff scandals too.
You have not come out and cursed any of the GOP corruption or waste ( like the $8 billion missing in Iraq)over the course of 6 years.
If any of these numerous events occurred during a Democratic administration, you'd be freaking.

"Waxman has an agenda that he has been chomping at the bit to enact".
Yes his agenda is called oversight and accountability of the waste and fraud your boys have been getting away with b/c the GOP Congress looked the other way.
No peep out of you during that time period.
No wonder you look down at Waxman and call it an "agenda" when he's just doing what is right.
When 'your boys'are in the crosshairs, it's all politically motivated to you.
You have always put party over country.
That is your MO.

A GREAT INDICTMENT OF MSNBC AND THE LIBBY TRIAL
Long but good reading!

To see how liberal history is created, you need to tune into the nut-cable stations and watch their coverage of the Scooter Libby trial. On MSNBC they're covering the trial like it's the Normandy Invasion, starring Elvis Presley, as told by Joseph Goebbels.

MSNBC's "reportage" consists of endless repetition of arbitrary assertions, half-truths and thoroughly debunked canards. No one else cares about the trial — except presumably Scooter Libby — so the passionate left is allowed to invent a liberal fable without correction.

Night after night, it is blithely asserted on "Hardball" that Wilson's trip to Niger debunked the claim that Saddam Hussein had been seeking enriched uranium from Niger.

As David Shuster reported last week: "Wilson goes and finds out that the claim that Iraq was seeking uranium from Niger is not accurate."

There have been massive investigations into this particular claim of "Ambassador" Joe Wilson, both here and in Britain. Nearly three years ago, a bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that this was not merely untrue, it was the opposite of the truth: Wilson's report actually bolstered the belief that Saddam was seeking uranium from Niger.

"The panel found," as The Washington Post reported on July 10, "that Wilson's report, rather than debunking intelligence about purported uranium sales to Iraq, as he has said, bolstered the case for most intelligence analysts." So you can see how a seasoned newsman like David Shuster might come to the exact opposite conclusion and then repeat this false conclusion on TV every night.

Wilson's unwritten "report" to a few CIA agents supported the suspicion that Saddam was seeking enriched uranium from Niger because, according to Wilson, the former prime minister of Niger told him that in 1999 Saddam had sent a delegation to discuss "expanding commercial relations" with Niger. The only thing Niger has to trade is yellowcake. If Saddam was seeking to expand commercial relations with Niger, we can be fairly certain he wasn't trying to buy designer jeans, ready-to-assemble furniture or commemorative plates. He was seeking enriched uranium.

But Wilson simply accepted the assurances of the former prime minister of Niger that selling yellowcake to Saddam was the farthest thing from his mind. I give you my word as an African head of state.

Chris Matthews also repeatedly says that Bush's famous "16 words" in his 2003 State of the Union address — which liberals say was a LIE! a LIE! a despicable LIE! — consisted of the claim that British intelligence said there was a "deal" for Saddam Hussein to buy enriched uranium from Niger.

Matthews huffily wonders aloud why Wilson's incorrect report didn't get into Bush's State of the Union address "rather than the president's claim of British intelligence that said there was a deal to buy uranium, which of course became one of the underpinnings of this administration's argument that we had to go to war with Iraq."

Considering how hysterical liberals were about Bush's "16 words," you'd think they'd have a vague recollection of what those words were and that they did not include the word "deal." What Bush said was: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

Even if the British had been wrong, what Bush said was factually correct: In 2003, the British government believed that Saddam sought yellowcake from Niger. (Not "MSNBC factual," mind you. I mean "real factual.")

But in fact, the British were right and Wilson was wrong. By now, everyone believes Saddam was seeking yellowcake from Niger — the CIA, the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee, Lord Butler's report in Britain, even the French believe it.

But at MSNBC, it's not even an open question: That network alone has determined that Saddam Hussein was not trying to acquire enriched uranium from Niger. Actually one other person may still agree with MSNBC: a discredited, washed-up State Department hack who used his CIA flunky wife's petty influence to scrape up pity assignments. But even he won't say it on TV anymore.

Shuster excitedly reported: "We've already gotten testimony that, in fact, that Joe Wilson's trip to Niger was based on forgeries that were so obvious that they were forgeries that officials said it would have only taken a few days for anybody to realize they were forgeries."

This is so wrong it's not even wrong. It's not 180 degrees off the truth — it's more like 3 times 8, carry the 2, 540 degrees from the truth. Shuster has twisted Wilson's original lie into some Frankenstein monster lie you'd need Ross Perot with a handful of flow charts to map out in full.

During Wilson's massive media tour, he began telling reporters that he knew Saddam was not seeking yellowcake from Niger because the documents allegedly proving a deal were obvious forgeries.

Again, thanks to endless investigations, we now know that Wilson was lying: He never saw the forged documents. (Not only that, but Bush's statement was not based on the forged documents because no one ever believed them.)

The bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report notes that Wilson was asked how he "could have come to the conclusion that the 'dates were wrong and the names were wrong' when he had never seen the CIA reports and had no knowledge of what names and dates were in the reports." Indeed, the United States didn't even receive the "obviously forged" documents until eight months after Wilson's trip to Niger!

Wilson admitted to the committee that he had "misspoken" to reporters about having seen the forged documents. Similarly, Cain "misspoke" when God inquired as to the whereabouts of his dead brother, Abel.

But on "Hardball," the forged documents that no one in the U.S. government saw until eight months after Wilson's trip now form the very impetus for the trip. A perfectly plausible theory, provided you have a working time machine at your disposal.

If you wonder how it came to be generally acknowledged "fact," accepted by all men of good will, that Joe McCarthy was a monster, that Alger Hiss was innocent, that mankind is causing global warming and that we're losing the war in Iraq, try watching the rewriting of history nightly on MSNBC. Don't forget to bring your time machine.

Benson,

What a fine article! However, you might have trouble convincing those who have actually read the report:

"Although the [National Security Council] had already removed the [Niger] uranium reference from the [October, 2002 Presidential] speech, later on October 6, 2002 the [Central Intelligence Agency] sent a second fax to the White House which said, "more on why we recommend removing the sentence about procuring uranium oxide from Africa: Three points (1) The evidence is weak. One of the two mines cited by the source as the location of the uranium oxide is flooded. The other mine cited by the source is under the control of the French authorities. (2) The procurement is not particularly significant to Iraq's nuclear ambitions because the Iraqis already have a large stock of uranium oxide in their inventory. And (3) we have shared points one and two with Congress, telling them that the Africa story is overblown and telling them this is one of the two issues where we differed with the British."

My favorite part

"During Wilson's massive media tour, he began telling reporters that he knew Saddam was not seeking yellowcake from Niger because the documents allegedly proving a deal were obvious forgeries."

These documents showed up months later...
Wilson is a media whore.

"that Joe McCarthy was a monster"

yeah, that part that really burns my ass about painting McCarthy bad was all that footage NBC and CBS had the gall to film of him acting like a nazi.

Actually, the author of Benson's article, Susan Schmidt, meets the definition of media whore explicitely. She was Ken Starr's leak-whore, as a matter of fact...

Much of her article is false. Check the Senate report: There is no mention of Iraq seeking to buy 400 tons of Uranium; however, IRAN was mentioned as doing that exact thing...

Nice try though...

>If you wonder how it came to be generally acknowledged "fact," accepted by all men of good will, that Joe McCarthy was a monster, that Alger Hiss was innocent, that mankind is causing global warming and

that we're losing the war in Iraq,

try watching the rewriting of history nightly on MSNBC. Don't forget to bring your time machine.

YEAH! I AM SICK AND TIRED OF THAT LBRUL 70% OF AMERICA THAT THINKS THE WAR IS LOST!

WE MUST STAY THE CURSE! WE ARE TURNING THE CORNER! THERE'S ONLY A FEW INSURGENTS LEFT! THERE AIN'T NO CIVIL WAR! ONLY A LITTLE SECTARIAN VIOLENCE!

AND THE WAR HAS PAID FOR ITSELF!!

TAKE THAT YOU AMERICA-HATING LBRULS!!

Congressman John Dingell: “I don’t take sides for or against Hezbollah or for or against Israel”
WDIV-TV July 30, 2006

At the risk of stating the obvious:

1.) Fox is Biased

2.) Johnny 2-Cents is a schill

3.) O'Reilly is a blowhard

4.) Libby is a liar

5.) Olbermann is repetitive*

(*Exposing the same old liars for the same old lies is repetitive work, you know, glad someone's willing to do it...)

Dang, the liberals are in full froth today. CW can't make a post without anger, name calling and cursing.
This might be a good read for all...Although we know how much the left hates facts.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/10/20021002-2.html

Dan,

Perhaps you might want to read more carefully, yourself:

"...In connection with the exercise of the authority granted in subsection (a) to use force the President shall, prior to such exercise or as soon there after as may be feasible, but no later than 48 hours after exercising such authority, make available to the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President pro tempore of the Senate his determination that

(1) reliance by the United States on further diplomatic or other peaceful means alone either (A) will not adequately protect the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq or (B) is not likely to lead to enforcement of all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq, and

(2) acting pursuant to this resolution is consistent with the United States and other countries continuing to take the necessary actions against international terrorists and terrorist organizations, including those nations, organizations or persons who planned, authorized, committed or aided the terrorists attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001..."

Iraq wasn't involved in 9/11 and peaceful means were already being applied.

Sorry to shoot you down so quickly. I know how you neocons hate facts...

Yeah, Olbermann WAS wrong, it cost $27 to get two new copies of Culture Vulture. That Liar Head! He's full of it!

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I still think Saddam masterminded 9-11 !

O'Reilly has a short promo for his radio program where he refutes a callers claim that Bush has killed more innocent Iraqis than Saddam had.

He states the number Bush has managed to kill, then states the commonly accepted numbers that Saddam had killed, smugly proclaiming the caller an 'idiot.'

Anyone with a sliver of common sense left would rightfully acknowledge that the RATE at which our actions have resulted in the deaths of innocent Iraqis far outpaces the RATE in which Saddam's actions resulted in the deaths of innocent Iraqis.

In other words, just give Bush more time, he'll put Saddam's numbers to shame in no time.

And don't give me any bullshit about how OUR aims were righteous and Saddam's aims were evil...Both sets of deaths were the result of a detached head of state doing what he thought was best for the majority of his people.

If we could ask the deceased, which would they prefer, death at the hands of their own evil dictator, or death at the hands of a foreign power, which do you think they would choose?

As O'Reilly always says, "You don't justify bad behavior by pointing to other bad behavior."

Dan Martin:

Concerning your 'fact' link. I don't usually bite when links are provided on this blog, but I did in this case, even though it was obvious from the 'whitehouse.gov' that it was released from the White house itself, and therefore had to be self serving for the White House, I did so anyway.

I should know better by now, but for some reason, I expected more!

This link was nothing more than the original October 2002 use of force resolution! Don't you think that everyone who has a strong opinion on this matter hasn't already read and dissected this document dozens of times by now?

U.S.: NATO Must Launch Afghan Offensive

By LOLITA C. BALDOR, Associated Press Writer

So now the US wants NATO to fight the real 'War or Terror' while we continue to get bogged down in Iraq?

True Radical Islamic Terrorists worldwide must be laughing their asses off at us right now!

Mikey says FNC is way right. He and liberal say FNC is so powerfull they swayed public opinion and helped lead us to war. Hum?

Let's play Mythbusters.

Lets see who are contributors and editors on Fox News if they are so far right. These are not guest but on the payroll.

Bob Beckel (Confusias say, he who have frown all the time will permanenty disfigure face wahahaha)

Susan Estrich (Mouth as big as a No. 2 wash tub, or Helloooo Dolly)

Eleanor Cliff (I've seen better faces on a jar of iodine)

Ellen Ratner (Of Mice and Women, thunder thighs, thunder ass, thunder mouth)

Kirsten Powers (The best looking liberal chick you will see, but, she's still a liberal)

Mark Mellman (If I'm on FNC, I need three Wendys Triple Classics in the Green Room............. with cheese)

Paul Begala (No, you ar not looking at one of those curvy mirrors at the circus, this is my natural face)

James Carville (Dunk his ass in red die and Mephistopholes is looking right at you)

David Korn (Dunk his ass in pale blue die and he's ready to play "The Joker" in the next Batman remake)

Greg Heimowitz (My tan is better than Olbyloons)

Neil Gabler(Sawed off runt who couldn't wipe his own ass without an illustrated instruction manual and rides a high horse pointing down at the rest of us with his finger that looks like something from the Excorsist
and is 10 times longer than his dick)

Al Sharpton (The Real Uncle Tom, still defends Taiwana Brawley, real credible character there, breaks every know election law and
and our goverment looks the other way)

Charlie rangel(Sang with the Ink Spots at the Rainbow Bar and Grill in 1948 in Cottondale Florida. Not shit, whose
district is the poorest in teh USA, and he's chairman of the Ways and Means Committee and the tax payers pickup the $1200
rental car he drives, inline for the lead role in the remake of Sandford and Son, but, Redd loved white people)

Robert Reich (His daddy played the midget in the Wild Wild West along side Robert Conrad, roomed with Gore and Tommy Lee Jones. Tommy liked
the way Elvis had a chimp so he got a Robert Reich. At least the chimp was smarter. Will star as Tatoo in the next remake of Fantasy Island)

Lanny Davis (Don't need time lapse photography to see this dude going bald. Phil DOnahue had a segment "Angry White Men", Lanny was liberal so he wasn't invited)

Bill Richardson (Hispanic? The only democrat with the right skills to be president? And he couldn't even lock the door to Los Alamos)

Catherine Crier (Host on Court TV. Forgets she left CNN, rips GW rather than doing her job)

Ann Hughes (Really Harry Reid in drag)

Wesley Clark (Just because you are in the Army make you smart, big headed loser, war criminal)

Geraldine Ferraro (Used for the pic on a jar of iodine)

Juan WIlliams (WIll play the Penguin when BET makes a black version of Batman, Public TV, what can you say)

Marvin Kalb (Roady for the Ink Spots in the 40's. Stuck with Dan Rather, will paly Ricardo on the remake of Fantasy Island)

And Keith Olbyloon has these folowing guests on his show from the right or conservative let alone contributors:

"Mikey says FNC is way right. He and liberal say FNC is so powerfull they swayed public opinion and helped lead us to war. Hum?"

Actually Uncle Rupert said he 'Tried to sway public opinion.' Whether or not he was successful, we can let the impartial viewer decide.

Remember, "We Report, You Decide" ?

Thanks, Brick, for your usual contribution of nothing, with a side order of idiocy...

NBC's Tim Russert got the sort of "Meet the Press" interrogation he usually gives his guests as attorneys Thursday flashed excerpts of his previous statements on a video monitor and asked him to explain inconsistencies.

God I wish that was me asking the questions. I dont know who I hate more Russert or Olbermann.

Both damn lairs in my book

Hey, "ImNotBlue", don't expect our liberal pets here to read anything, unless you have an Braile-For-Idiots Adaptor. The truly blind (liberals, not sight-disabled people) can't read or understand the simplest of notions.

Matt,

Still not saying anything of substance, I see...

Why not a couple of those neocon factoids for me to destroy instantly?

So you all hate Olbermann because he claims his show is 'news' and not editorial, and what Fox guys do is okay because they come out and say they are 'opinion' and not news.

To Wit:

Doesn't Fox promo the Factor as 'The most dominate show in cable 'News''?

And Hannity, Gibson and the bunch give their opinions above the banner of 'Fox News.'

So tell me, who has just the straight news shows on Fox without the right-wing spin?

Is it grape-vine Hume? Is it 'Here Boy' SheepHerder Smith?

Even the breaking news bits are soaked in Right-Wing Propoganda before they're flung to the wall to see what sticks.

Fox News is 'fair and balanced' because they have liberal folks on some of the shows that they rail-road, talk over and argue with?

Hannity and O'Reilly are very adept at framing so-called 'yes' or 'no' questions in such a way that anyone with a view different than theirs can't answer thoughtfully without being called out for dodging the question.

Just because you are better at waging a simplistic incendiary arguments, doesn't mean that you are right. It just means you are right-wing. And a Blow-Hard.

NeoCon Spin Cheat Sheet:

1.) If you are anti-war, you must be anti-troops.

2.) If you care about the death toll in Iraq, you must want it to increase.

3.) If you were against this war from the start, you just haven't thought hard enough about a way out.

4.) If you care about Iraqi civilians, you must be a terrorist sympathizer.

5.) If you want proper gear for our soldiers for as long as they are there, you must be a flip-flopping Demomcrat.

6.) If you want accurate news reports from the war (whether it fits with the story Bush is telling or not), you want to give aid and comfort to the enemy.

7.) If you disagree with Bush you are anti-american.

8.) If you don't think we should bomb Iran, you must love radical Islam.

9.) If you protest the war, you must have been one of those people who spit on Vietnam vets.

10.) If you're not a Chicken Hawk Right Wing Republicon Neocon, then you are ruining America and everything our founding fathers fought so hard to create.

Drink the Red Flavored Kool-Aid, Practice 1-10 in front of mirror until they sound believable.

Repeat as necessary...

This seems to be the standard answer-deflection you get when someone points that though Fox News might be Rigthwing Central and all the employees certified members of the John Birch society, at least Fox does air liberals talking about their views.

What kind intellect compares complaints that a guest is "talked over" (100% of the time? 75%?...) by two hosts on Fox News with a program that does not air any Republican or conservative in order to answer aired reports, claims or charges?

Why not just call it DNC TV?

"Why not just call it DNC TV?"

Just because someone stridently speaks out against the administration and it's cable news mouthpiece doesn't necessarily mean they are 'Liberal' or even a 'Democrat.'

There are several conservative Republicans that don't think too highly of the Bush administation. And a helluva lot more 'Independents' that feel the same way.

Cecelia once again displays her ignorance...Well, if it's not black, it must be white.

...And last time I checked Joe Scarborough wasn't a liberal or a democrat. Just another good reason why the DNC TV label doesn't fit.

But label whatever you like, however you like if it makes you feel better...

I'm sure there are some decent, albeit ignorant, people who are liberal. It's just none of them come here.

Ah, the same Matt that ran from my previous challenge, still braying like a jackass...

There just may be some decent right wingers out there with a brain, but this 'Matt' character sure as hell isn't one of them!

"MORE OF THE USUAL LIMP OLBERMANN CRAP"

Apparently Johnny 2-Cents prefers his commentators to be fully Erect.

Hey, "ImNotBlue", don't expect our liberal pets here to read anything, unless you have an Braile-For-Idiots Adaptor. The truly blind (liberals, not sight-disabled people) can't read or understand the simplest of notions.

Posted by: Matt at February 8, 2007 1:18 PM

'Sight-disabled' people aren't 'truly blind'?

Huh? Who are you, One of Bush's speech writers?

There's no such thing as a 'challenge' from a liberal. There are only challenges TO liberals, and they're all basically the same thing: "Can you make any sense, ever, about anything?"

I accept your surrender, Matt...

Give a liberal a computer and suddenly he's pro-war (with conservatives, that is). Very tough with a keyboard.

I don't surrender to you Mr. Liberal Waste. Just like I pay little attention to junkyard dogs who bark at the moon. Just lick your balls and scratch.

Internet Liberals should get free one-way tickets to Cuba and then drop them off a mile from the coast, see if they can swim to paradise.

"Even though it was obvious from the 'whitehouse.gov that it was released from the White House itself."

You've no doubt heard "A Legend in his own mind"?

What's your next brilliant statement?

"Even though it was obvious from the light outside that it was released from the sun itself?"

I guess it really doesn't matter who is in the chair. As long as the format stays the same for some people.

2 Copy's of "Culture Warrior" for $25 on amazon.com yet?

Isn't this cute. A bunch of misinformed little shits whining about Keith Olbermann. I guess you all think Bill O'reilly is a god. Bill O deserves to be beaten in front of his children for the evil remarks he spews nightly. Anyone who believes anything that comes from Fox News needs a reverse labotomy. Enjoy the rest of your rantings cocksuckers.

Lapdog 'Matt' can't seem to make a post without parroting the word 'liberal'.

'Matt' seems to have "liberal on the brain" syndrome, a little known mental disease of the simple minded that is generally activated when they have prolonged exposure to blowhards like Hannity and Limbaugh as they spout out continuous packets of propaganda radiation. This disease typically manifests itself by it's victims by destoying their ability to dicern truth from fiction. Another symptom is an unconscious tendency to follow their chosen leader no matter what, even if it means stampeding off the cliff along with this particular leader. Uncontrolled belligerance towards anyone who challenges their narrow worldview is another typical symptom of Liberal on the brain syndrome.

Medical science is working on a cure but the disease is complex and tends to defy any and all doses of truth and logic. Another complication is that failure to seek treatment in a reasonable amount of time often results in atrophy of brain tissue with the enevitable loss one's ability to entertain rational thought.

Common treatment includes weaning these victims away from prolonged exposure to known risk factors such as Hannity, O'Reilly, Beck, and other sources of truth contamination.

Why not just call it DNC TV?

Facts have a known liberal bias.

Standing ovation for Benson at 11:36 am. CW try reading and educating yourself. Take your tin foil had off, and quit hidding from the free masons, men in black, and skull and bones under your bed.

'Rudy Ramirez' is a prime example of what can occur when "liberal on the brain" symptom is allowed to proceed too far without professional intervention. The victim then becomes a blithering idiot spouting out endless paranoid sentences praising the Bush/Fox alliance along with simple minded drivel about how they are being led by voices from God.

"Standing ovation for Benson at 11:36 am. CW try reading and educating yourself."

I read it already, when it was originally posted on Ann Coulter's page as her weekly column.

Nice try, benson, but the only thing Coulter's columns are good for are birdcage lining (and her books are great for propping up couches and tables).

You go on with your ignorant self EE. Pretty scathing facts against your boy Wilson. Seems he brought all this on himself.

EE,

So you are putting Coulter's columns in the birdcage after you read them?

Why would any rational thinking person read Coulter's columns?

That would be another prime example of self destructive behavior that can possibly lead to lapdog syndrome, another mental disorder that is very similar to the aforementioned "liberal on the brain syndrome". This is also commonly found with posters on this page but fortunately for America, is not that common within society in general.

Nothing pisses off a liberal more than little miss Annie and her writings. I love her for that fact alone. Throw another pie you peace marching pussies!

Rational folks folks such as Ensign Expendable are fully capable of withstanding prolonged exposure to known pathogens such as Coulter without danger of contamination largely because of an acquired ammunity derived from longer exposures to truth and reality. However, the uninformed and the simple minded should always avoid exposure to these pathogens.

Bill O'Reilly is a repressed homosexual just like the rest of you draft dodging conservatives. You like to smoke pole like Ted Haggard.

Matt, Benson, Brandon, Rico, Factor, Brick, Brian, and other lapdogs on this site, you should take a good, long, hard look at the drivel coming out of Rudy Ramirez's computer, because you are all only one or two steps removed from becoming this deluded. Save yourselves while you still can!

Speaking of cocksuckers... I bet Matt's got some man sausage in his mouth right now.

THE COLDEST AIRMASS OF THE WINTER SEASON ENTRENCHED ITSELF OVER THE GREAT LAKES FOR THE PAST WEEK MAKING THE START OF FEBRUARY VERY COLD! THROUGH THE FIRST 7 DAYS OF FEBRUARY...NORTHERN MICHIGAN IS EXPERIENCING AMONG THE TOP 10 COLDEST STARTS TO FEBRUARY IN THE LAST 100 YEARS. HERE IS THE DEPARTURE FROM NORMAL FOR SEVERAL LOCATIONS IN NORTHERN MICHIGAN THROUGH THE FIRST 6 DAYS OF FEBRUARY:

More GLobal Warming proof. HAHAHAHAHAHA!:)
ALPENA: 8.4 (average) -8.6 (Departure from Normal)- 9TH COLDEST START

HOUGHTON LAKE: 5.2 (average) -12.8 (Departure from Normal) - 6TH COLDEST START

SAULT SAINTE MARIE: 4.8 (average) -8.7 (Departure from Normal)- 25TH COLDEST START

GAYLORD: 5.8 (average) -11.9 (Departure from Normal)-5TH COLDEST START

TRAVERSE CITY: 9.1 (average) -10.9 (Departure from Average)- 10TH COLDEST START

WEATHER SUMMARY:
The weather pattern across northern Michigan will remain the same for much of this upcoming week.

We are still locked in under a broad northwest wind regime with that colder air passing across the open waters of both Lake Michigan/Superior. That will continue to bring in occasional lake effect snow showers to the region all the way into the middle of next week. There will not be much change in our overall temperatures either with no signs of any real surge of warmth or bitter cold. Daytime high temperatures will remain in the teens with low temperatures in the single digits above zero. There will also be some sunshine intermingled with those lake effect clouds. Meteorologists Joe Charlevoix & Chief Meteorologist Greg MacMaster

STOCKHOLM, Feb 7 (AFP) Feb 07, 2007
Sweden said Wednesday it would give its reindeer herders millions of euros (dollars) in emergency aid to help them feed their animals, which are starving because of thick ice that is preventing them from reaching the lichen they eat.

Yet more Global Warming proof!!! :)

It's great stuff when THE FACTOR posts and makes a total fool of himself.

He hasn't a clue what global warming is about.

Hey Factor, what are you gonna deny next?
Gravity ?

Hey Factor,

As I pointed out to someone else (damn my memory for not recalling the name) in another thread, you cannot look at one or two isolated incidents to say "warming is happening" or "warming is not happening".

Also, note that the same UN panel reported the effects of the freshwater glaciers melting slows the currents in the oceans (because the warm currents are infused with cold glacier water). When the currents slow, it causes storm sytems to move more slowly. This in turn also makes the effects of storms more pronounced because they have more time to develop.

Global warming does not negate the possibility of some areas experiencing above-average winters - in fact, the evidence indicates that warming CAUSES such above-average effects.

STOCKHOLM, Feb 7 (AFP) Feb 07, 2007
Sweden said Wednesday it would give its reindeer herders millions of euros (dollars) in emergency aid to help them feed their animals, which are starving because of thick ice that is preventing them from reaching the lichen they eat.

Yet more Global Warming proof!!! :)

Posted by: The Factor at February 8, 2007 4:36 PM

No, that's just proof you're an idiot.

You should actually read about global warming, if you know how to read.

You might be surprised to find that there can actually still be ice on the planet while global warming is taking place.

You may also be surprised to find out that it does not happen over night.

You and your minions remind me of the chinese proverb that says that (and I paraphrase) if you drop a frog into boiling water, it jumps out. If you drop a frog into cool water and slowly heat it up, it will stay in the water until boiled to death.

Factor, you are that frog, thinking, if it doesn't kill me right away, it must not be a threat.

You are the true definition of ignorance!

Factor is not a frog!!!

He is a toad. A toad with genital warts. And warts on his brain. That's why he is so retarded!

Hey Factor, have you ever sodomized a reindeer? Your mom did once, with a big strap on that she stole from Ted Haggard. That year, she got lots of presents from Rudolph and his gang.

Didn't all your favorite news cast claim that global warming is here now? Doesn't you buddy Al Gore claim that we a feeling the effects of global warming now? Isn't every summer heat wave blamed on global warming by the media? So not global "Warming" causes record cold snaps? You libs are priceless. Anything to advance your myth. Global warming is the libs new religion or just their old religion ( socialism) in disguise.

2 Copy's of "Culture Warrior" for $25 on amazon.com yet?

Posted by: puck at February 8, 2007 2:52 PM

It's 2 for $27 as I proved at 12:46, even less if you buy used (but then you run the risk of finding pages stuck together...)

...and it's copies, not copy's phuck.

Didn't all your favorite news cast(s) claim that global warming is here now? Doesn't you(r) buddy Al Gore claim that we a(re) feeling the effects of global warming now? Isn't every summer heat wave blamed on global warming by the media?

So not global "Warming" causes record cold snaps?
(I'm not sure what to do with this line)

You libs are priceless. Anything to advance your myth. Global warming is the lib(')s new religion or (it's) just their old religion ( socialism) in disguise.

Posted by: The Factor at February 8, 2007 4:58 PM

I don't believe the media on global warming. I believe science. If you graduated from high school instead of just going to school high, you might believe in science as well, instead of just believing in all your own hot air.

Factor, just keep telling yourself whatever you need to and your mom will keep supporting you with all the krona she makes doing reindeer shows in Sweden!

I did a google search for

"summer heat wave blamed on global warming'

and this came up:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/04/national/main1864868.shtml

Apparently Pat Robertson is the only one who is blaming summer heat waves on global warming.

Why is someone an idiot when they use an isolated event to dispute global warming. The are examples of others (mainstream news) using isolated events to argue there is global warming happening. Hurricaine Katrina is a great example.

"Doesn't you buddy Al Gore claim that we a feeling the effects of global warming now?"

We are. But just because you can't FEEL the temperature rising doesn't mean it isn't.

"Isn't every summer heat wave blamed on global warming by the media?"

I thought summer heat waves were blamed on El Nino...

"So not global "Warming" causes record cold snaps?"

Yes, because storms become heavier and more intense because the air is more moist than it was before.

Come on man, even Billious Bill (who agress with liberals about as often as my fellow redshirts come back from missions) is saying that warming is happening - so why are you hitching your wagon to this argument?

Wow, this border guard story may be the perfect republican storm ... it's got self-righteous christianity, immigration, impeachment, and imprisonment all rolled into one!

-- A couple of lying jingoist republican border guards
-- A couple of indignant jingoist republican congressman
-- One unethical jingoist republican president

Several Republican lawmakers have sharply criticized the imprisonment of two border agents who were convicted of shooting a Mexican drug smuggler in the back and attempting to cover it up. Appeals to President Bush to pardon the two men, Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, have increased since one was assaulted by fellow inmates in a federal prison last weekend. Yesterday, two Repulican Congressmen had strong words to say about Bush, with one even threatening impeachment. "Reps. Walter Jones, R-N.C., and Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif., blasted President Bush for not intervening in the case, with Rohrabacher hinting that he would consider pressing for impeachment if either of the two agents was killed in prison," Dave Montgomery reports for McClatchy Newspapers. "Now, I tell you, Mr. President, if these men -- especially after this assault -- are murdered in prison, or if one of them lose their lives, there's going to be some kind of impeachment talk in Capitol Hill," Rohrabacher said. McClatchy quotes Jones as saying that "the president has lost my respect because he will not step forward and do what's right." Montgomery notes that this "case has become a cause celebre among conservative groups, which contend that Ramos and Compean were railroaded by overzealous federal prosecutors who gave the drug smuggler immunity to testify against the two agents." According to the conservative Cybercast News Service, Rohrabacher slammed Bush for his "arrogance." "The president of the United States talks a lot about his Christian charity, and his religious beliefs," Rohrabacher said. "He now is showing a mean-spirited side to him, an arrogance, in which he will turn his back."

"The are examples of others (mainstream news) using isolated events to argue there is global warming happening. Hurricaine Katrina is a great example."

No, if you remember the story was broader narrative about how Atlantic hurricanes were stronger and more frequent than before. Katrina (and Rita) were just the most stark examples.

Oh and here's a story about the relationship between Global Warming and Heat Waves as reported on your beloved Fox News.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,206371,00.html

Okay, you guys got me on glboal waming

So how about this one

What do you tell a women with two black eyes?

Nothing, you done told her twice allraedy.

Wow, I stirred up you libs so much that now you steal my name in a failed attempt to slander me. Sweet, I am doing my job.

Didn't all your favorite news cast claim that global warming is here now? Doesn't you buddy Al Gore claim that we a feeling the effects of global warming now? Isn't every summer heat wave blamed on global warming by the media? So not global "Warming" causes record cold snaps? You libs are priceless. Anything to advance your myth. Global warming is the libs new religion or just their old religion ( socialism) in disguise.

christ, you're an idiot. global warming causes EXTREMES in weather -- which are clearly evident all over the globe, and have been for the last several years. yes, when it's 72 degrees in NYC for christmas and -10 in Denver with seven feet of snow in as many weeks -- that is global warming. no wonder iraq is so f---ed up. you people are morons.

Wow, I stirred up you libs so much that now you steal my name in a failed attempt to slander me. Sweet, I am doing my job.

Posted by: The Factor at February 8, 2007 5:20 PM

Might be about time you get an 'actual' job...

Hey Factor, Did you know that when we set our clocks ahead at Daylight Savings Time, the day isn't actually an hour longer, it just seems like it?

Factor is still trying to figure out how they were able to go back in time and play the Super Bowl at 3:30 on the West Coast. Must be those crazy communist liberals over there!

Wow, I love you libs so much now. I steal my name to slander me. Sweet, I am doing my blowjob.

Posted by: The Factor at February 8, 2007 5:20 PM

9/11 was an inside job. I wish Obermann was allowed to say it on the air!!!!!!!!!!!!

Im not what youd call a scientist & I dont know what to think about the socalled Global Warming & its been really cold here in Ohio but it wasnt that cold at Christmas so I guess I can see both sides but I do know that some very smart people say were warming the globe & lots of people who say were not dont seem all that smart so I have to wonder & tho I dont know I think it just might be happening as a matter of fact I think it is but I also think that it might be God warming the globe cause hes trying to get our attention about something & were not listning like we sometimes dont to God or maybe Gods decided its time for some kind of animal to be gone like God made it to cold for dinosaurs cause more people were moving in & the dinosaurs were eating there food or squashing them or horses made more since than unicorns so God made it to cold & now maybe God made it to hot for polar bears cause more people are moving to Alaska & the polar bears are indangering them same with wolves. So Im saying global warming --- P R O B A B L Y --- but can we do anything about it --- NOT --- cause God wants it & we dont know why or cant stop it.

hmmm ... so RudyRamirez must be TheFactor's trolling runon sentence alter ego ... more brain dead personas than you can shake a stick at.

Why is someone an idiot when they use an isolated event to dispute global warming, but not an idiot when they use an isolated event to support global warming?

--------------------------

-- Because the isolated incidents used to dispute global warming do just the opposite, i.e., cold snaps, which are sited by morons like you and drudge and the dunderheads herein who are stupid/ignorant enough to think that global "warming" means simply that, Warmer Weather Everywhere, which it does not. (see Factor's michigan cold snap posting above). global warming means a rise in the average global temp which begets weather extremes.

-- It's not so much about isolated incidents as it is the TREND being supported by isolated incidents.

-- And because the isolated incidents sited to support global warming (Katrina) support the extreme weather TRENDS evidenced around the globe over the last few decades.

-- For instance, last year's hurricane season in the western hemisphere was more mild than predicted, but at the same time, hurricane's were up worldwide.

A) you've got to look at the overall trend, over time, over the entire globe.
B) you've got to somehow learn to stop thinking that global warming means simply warmer weather.
and you won't get that from Faux Noise, you morons.

Did you see the news report the other day that only 13% percent of Republican Congressman believe that global warming is human related? No wonder Iraq is so f---ed up. You people are idiots.

f--- Keith Olbermann!

Did you folks know that Al Gore does not allow reporters in to his "Global Warming " Fests?

Afraid somebody might ask the wrong question?

Sort of like Keith doesn't let any Conservatives (Oh excuse me, Keith said he has a hard time getting them on) on his show.

They might say something that doesn't go along with the program.

Liberals, letting ALL VOICES be (shut) heard.

Wow Puck, are you finally giving the O'Reilly book prices at Amazon a rest? You oughta keep on with that now!

On the other hand, it does make you look kinda petty if thats the worst thing you can come up with about KO.

"Did you folks know that Al Gore does not allow reporters in to his "Global Warming " Fests?"

And the President does "town halls" and other events in front of pre-screened audiences. So what, exactly, is your point?

> It does make you look kinda petty if thats the worst thing you can come up with about KO.

Actually, it makes Olbermann look petty that he would construct an elaborate lie about such a matter.

E.E.

Thanks buddy! You just made the point for me.

Perhaps I will have a little bit more fun with you all on this comment thread. Is the G.O.P. going to take Imus' breakdown as their own to apologize over when the s*** finnaly hits the fan for his statements and deeds?!?