New thread-POUNCE!
Just waiting for Col Allard to step on the set and put a Super Fly slam on this pseudo-caster. He'd win WPITW for a week straight, but would have the #1 video on youtube. Payback baby!

BWAHAHAHAHAH Conservatives rule! right Robert Cox! let's show these bozos who is in charge!

KO...MSNBC big superstar will get his assed kicked by Michelle Malkin tonight..HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

Michelle Malkin makes a tenth of KeithO and will still bring in 3 times the ratings... hmmmm. Dan Abrahms has to be gone soon. Maybe there can be another OJ trial for them to hang their collective hats on.

Olbermann - and NBC - have a bit of a dilemma.

KO's made a name for himself with his inflammatory special commentaries and his smearing and name-calling at critics (monkeyboys, swine, et cetera) - real and imagined.

Much like the leftwing bloggers who got into trouble when Edwards selected them to be his campaign bloggers, once he becomes mainstream this style undergoes greater scrutiny both by the press and the larger society.

What is acceptable to a niche audience of leftwingers (or rightwingers) is not going to be accepted by the mainstream public.

So, Olbermann will have to be more sober-minded in his comments and pieces. But to rein in his over-the-top style runs the risk, at the same time, of alienating his hardcore lefty supporters. And without them, Olbermann is just another orange face in the crowd.

Even more problematic is if Hillary Clinton or Obama become president. A Democratic controlled government will make it more difficult - if not impossible - to continually blame the Republicans for every sparrow that falls from the sky.

Going to be an interesting couple of years for our Edward R. Murrow, Jr.

The Speshul Komments (aka "essays") he does for NBC Nightly News will be done under the scrutiny of Brian Williams and crew, so I doubt we'll see so many "Misters," camera pivots, spitting and unsubstantiated Olbyspin. Why bother, Olbytoad?

It will be funny to see him defanged.

Krazy Keith has a hard-on for Bill
But for women he needs a blue pill
He's obsessed with Fox
He hates Robert Cox
He's a hack with an hour to kill

"blame the Republicans for every sparrow that falls from the sky".

No, that would be West Nile or Bird Flue. Did the Republicans cause that too??

Woogy- if the Bird Flu hits our shores- you know Keith will blame Bush. Global warming made it possible for the birds to span the ocean to infect out masses! Bush sucks. Good day and good night!

I'm not that much of a defender of Olbermann, although I do like him. However, the reason for your continual harping about him saying 'Mister' Bush eludes me.

I can only speak for myself, but if 'President' Bush entered a room I happened to be in, I would not even stand up for the man.

Yes, I agree the 'office' deserves respect, but many of us, probably KO included, struggle with the contradiction of a man that deserves NO respect, and an office that historically deserves every respect.

Benson:

Trust me, If Keith blames Bush for THAT, I'll join you in my criticizm of the man.

Well Im back from Columbus & Im so mad at the DemocRATS that I could barely drive back home safely. Those dam traitors! 1 time it was illegal to be a Communist in the US of America & I can only hope & pray that it will soon be illegal to be a DemocRAT cause they are terrible traitors I bet our troops are demoraleized tonight cause the DemocRATS in Congress completely pulled the rug out from behind them & left them stranded & penny less in Iraq believing that Americans dont support them when almost all Americans do & want them to continue to fight & to win this war to make Iraq free & to make Christianity save in the world I wouldnt be surprised if when Christianity got safe in the world & Iraq got free it would be Christian cause freedom & Christianity go together like butter on bread but we wont be able to take the Gospel out into the world cause the DemocRATS stabbed Pres Bush in the back just like I thought they would & now hell have to raise money to keep up the good fight in Iraq. Well guess what DemocRATS you fooled yourselfs cause the American people are going to rise up & strike you down for your treason so good by to you we dont even need to make you illegal cause soon youll be gone GONE G O N E & may I say good riddunce to each & every 1 of you. Remember we elected Pres Bush Pres cause hes no pansy & is going to protect us & make people in Iraq & other places free & you cant stop him cause God wants him to win & made him Pres to win so their take that with you all the way to the hot burning fires. Besides that your law is illegal cause its ex post facto which means a law passed after something was done cant make what was done illegal so when this gets to the court A Scalia will strike it down faster that you strike down 1 of those moles in an arcaid. You really outsmarted yourselfs this time DemocRATS cause you think your so smart but this time what you did was illegal & it stinks & Pres Bush & the American people who are with him arent going to take your traiterous crap anymore & you can be sure of that it is a fact not just a hope.

Keiths "expert" on the Iraq war spending was totally down the middle I'm sure,he's only directed and produced "Outfoxed",another documentary about how the Patriot Act has robbed Americans of their freedom and another about how Pres. Bush "stold" the 2000 elections so we all know he was fair and balanced,yea,right....hey Keithy,you ever think O'Reilly mispronounces your name on purpose ???..and one more thing,what did KO mean by a "right wing water carrier" ?....must be another olbermahanism

Did anyone notice during his Bill O deal that he totally still didn't back off calling Arkin's article "valid"? He is trying to draw attention away from it with stuff that does not matter. I hope they put him on regular NBC and he runs his mouth. Nobody watches MSNBC but on NBC he will be watched carefully. The fallout will be great TV.

So, are you saying I shouldn't go to Church on Sunday, Benson? I might get infected there? Why would Bush do that? Did someone tell him I'm a Catholic?

I am positive Bill mispronounced his name. He was looking for exactly the reaction he got for disrespecting KO. Very predictable....Next prediction-Michelle Malkin will be WPOTW early next week. For whatever reason. Does it matter to this Anti-American?

Keith Olbermann spewed: "He (Col Allard) hasn't been on our air in about a year"

No sh-t, Keith? The man had a stroke and was incapable of speaking.

Rudy you are a put-on, arn't you, a Democrat shill?

Nobody could possibly be THAT stupid - or could they?

Thats right woogy and George Bush and I would have let a boatload of west nile birds rain down on your house from our Black Hawk Helicopter but.

We have better things to do, Like make prank phone calls to Bush Kill Falls.

Rudy- Woogy is just a meanie! Don't listen to his mean stuff. MEANIE!

As someone who, on the whole, likes Keith's show, I too wish he WOULD stop making news segments about himself. Commenting about O'Reilly mentioning his name was - well, a ridiculous waste of air time.

Shultzy- You skipped a gear! WHAT?

I just hope that during the 2008 elections that Republicans clean up and retake both houses and the keep the presidency just to watch KO have to report it live. If anybody bothered to watch MSNBC during the last elections KO was basically jerking off his tiny cock watching the dems win. He may have to do his show from Iran so he would feel more comfortable.

I just hope that during the 2008 elections that Republicans clean up and retake both houses and the keep the presidency just to watch KO have to report it live. If anybody bothered to watch MSNBC during the last elections KO was basically jerking off his tiny cock watching the dems win. He may have to do his show from Iran so he would feel more comfortable.

TJ- Actually I thought KeithO showed far more restraint than I thought he could. I recall the best part was him stepping all over Matthews commentary. KeithO has no friends, and its obvious to me why!

I missed the show (thanks for the recap J$) but did he really spin the Allard story more? Mr 4thPaceRatings has no shame. Let it go Keith. Your credibility is slipping far below your ratings.

Actually Rush, I live in a homemade shack in the woods, and they make me move every couple of weeks or so, so you would never be able to find my 'house'.

"infect ou[r] masses"

Catholics (and some Episcopalians) often say "going to mass" when Protestant might say "going to church". It was a silly joke for a silly Friday night. Forgive me. I often go straight from 2nd gear to 4th when I am driving.

Slipping credibility? Don't you need some credibility to slip?

Benson- I agree with you about Matthews. Both Chris and Russert looked irritated with him. Like he was forced on them. What's bad is even though the others are supposed to be non-partisn, of course we all knew who KO was for. It would be like Fox letting Hannity do the elections. They wouldn't do that.

I hear that Dan Abrams denied Keith's request to have confetti every time a state went blue, and a whoopie cushion when it went red. With his new contract- I am sure he'll ask again in 2008!

KEITH ROCKS, BRILL-O SUCKS AND NOT VERY WELL!

KEITH ROCKS, BRILL-O SUCKS AND NOT VERY WELL!

No Bill O'reilly is really fair neutral jounralist Lefties hate him becasuse he hates Elderly and blacks and women.

SIDEBAR: I just read Kiran Chetry left Fox News for CNN. WTF. They put some personality deficient morning bimbo named Gretchen on to ruin my AM coffee, and then let her go. Spare me the right leaning! Management has got some esplainin' to do!

"hate him becasuse he hates Elderly and blacks and women. "

Don't forget children, gay folks and puppies too.

And he just abhors Santa Claus. Can't stand the guy.

I have a question for anybody on either side of the fence here. I know that KO is on Dan Patrick's radio show everyday. Does Dan agree with KO about everything, does he urge him on, or does he just let him talk unchallenged? Just wondering....

Excuse me but what is it about Michael Musto that I just find "creepy"? I can't quite put my finger on it.

Don't get the show, but DPatrick is way too cool and smart to buy KeithO's bullsh-t. My guess is they are like that famous couple... you know Matlin AND "Bald Crazy Democrat that Sounds like a caroon character" marriage. They get along but have far different opinions.

Excuse me but what is it about Michael Musto that I just find "creepy"? I can't quite put my finger on it.

Posted by: John at February 16, 2007 9:52 PM

Could it possibly be that caulk in his mouth?

cock?

"Does Dan agree with KO about everything, does he urge him on"

I listen to the hour at lunch time and Patrick whacks KO around pretty good. My guess is that politically they're similar (Patrick voted for Kerry); but DP doesn't take himself or Olbermann too seriously at all. He'll laughingly call KO "our Edward R. Murrow" or "Olbermann will be saving democracy tonight" et cetera.

He pulled a great stunt last year where he played a tape of George Bush Senior on Larry King's show blasting Hugo Chavez's criticism of Bush. Bush, Sr. is saying "this guy is a jerk with these remarks" et cetera. Only he didn't tell KO that Bush was talking about Chavez and instead said he was talking about KO.

After listening, KO drew in a deep breath before responding. Patrick then jumped in to reveal the prank.

Would've been interesting to hear what KO had said.

Patrick is an amazing talent. Funny, smart, self-effacing.

No caulk,..... play on words.

Thanks for the feedback about Dan Patrick.

Wait a minute, Wait one moment, isn't Allard a good friend of Olbermann? What happened? I thought Allard was best friends with the swine at NBC? Isn't this what Fur Olbermann said? Now all of a sudden they don't even know who he is? Apparently he wondered on to the set of NBC Nightly propaganda and just started talking in front of a camera. As soon as Allard criticizes NBC, under the bus he goes. Olbermann has hit a new low. O'Reilly is drunk now because he didn't pounce Olbermann's Nazi name correctly? Well how does it feel Olbermann, to get beaten by a drunk every night? Why don't you ask your momma? Great Thanks

It's the only reason I listen to the radio show, Patrick gives it back to Olbermann and good. He totally deflates his over-inflated ego and calls him on his BS. He laughs hysterically when KO mentions his teenage girlfriend and how it's "true love".

Woogy, you wouldn't stand up for President Bush if he came into the room? You make it so easy, it's not even a slight challenge. You have the "mental disorder" so bad that you don't even realize that President Bush has bent over backwards to protect you (while the dems vote against everything to protect you) and you admit you have no respect for Him? Would you be stupid enough to blame President Bush if there was someone on your front porch wearing a turbin holding a 4' knife? I bet your parents are proud of you............

When Michelle Malkin gets twice the viewers Keith gets, will Keith claim that it was because she was sending mind signals to her views to send anthrax to Keith? I sure she will get worst person in the world. Coward Keith loves to trash women.

Did anyone see this sick cunt Nancy Pelosi smiling like a jackass after she votes on this useless resolution? I'm glad she is having so much fun disgracing our troops. She'll make good video for the terrorists.

Pelosi Palooza is a total disgrace! So far, she's done everything she said she wouldn't do, shocker......

Jeff, ole buddy:

President Bush has done nothing but make a bad situation much, much worse! Thsi damned war was totally unnecessary, and took the focus away from where it SHOULD have stayed - on Bin Laden and Afghanistan.

An no, you idiot, if there was someone on my front porch with a turbin I wouldn't blame the president. I simply blame the president for what he actually HAS done, which is unforgivable!

And yes, my dad, a veteran of THREE wars was VERY proud of me before he passed away. He was also quite proud of me when I met him in Saigon in 1971 during his second Vietnam 'tour'. I, on the other hand was lucky enough to have been stationed in nearby Thailand, and for me, it was only a short visit.

I am now in the process watching my Brother in Law, also a two time veteran of Vietnam on his death bed all because of Agent Orange, which was used to defoliate the jungles so they could find the enemy. There are many more like him out there who have paid or are still paying the price for THAT unneccesary war!

THIS unnecessary war will haunt us for many, many years to come. I want to know 'Jeff', are you prepared to pay your share of increased taxes to care for all these veterans AND their families in the coming years, because you don't know half the story yet?

Don't try to shame me with your false pride, because YOU can't possibly hold a candle to my patriotism and service to my country!

One day you'll see just how wrong you were, just the way I figured it out years after the Vietnam War, which I blindly supported at the time.

When Michelle Malkin gets twice the viewers Keith gets, will Keith claim that it was because she was sending mind signals to her views to send anthrax to Keith?

Posted by: The Factor at February 16, 2007 11:06 PM

I don't know about your question, but can somebody tell me what the hell happened to Michelle Malkin's face? It looks like a truck drove over it, then backed up over it again. That is one ugly bitch.

Woogy- most of these folks will never see how wrong they were/are. Reason being is that the mass majority were not the ones that put their own asses on the line and saw first hand how f---ed up the situation in Iraq is. They are convinced they are acting for the best - in a way that will cost most of them nothing.

Woogy you are a disgrace. Don't lay your cowardice at the feet of you father and brother if that fairy tale you told is even true. That sounds right out of the democrat coward playbook. Blame America and our illegal wars for you troubles. You are a true disgrace.

It's amazing to read the posts of all these false armchair warriers who have never served, and don't even begin to understand what they are asking of others. Meanwhile they continue to blindly support warmonging politicians who have the same shortcomings.

I was just talking to a reservist today who had returned from Iraq several months ago. HIS only hope of not having to go back soon was if the war is wound down soon. I can tell you that HE was no fan of the 'surge'.

Factor:

No, you are the f---ing disgrace. You're just a damned armchair warrier sitting on your couch pretending to be patriotic while devouring every stupid word and even naming yourself after another armchair warrier, who himself doesn't have a clue what it means to wear the uniform of his country.

You wouldn't know patriotism or courage if it slapped you in the face, so save your hypocritical 'coward' lecture for someone just as stupid and gullible as yourself!

You don't have a clue, you coward!

Indierik:

Actually it will cost them something eventually, that is, if they care one bit about the many wounded veterans, and the way they will have to live the rest of their lives with only part of a body, not to mention their families.

Jeff and 'Factor' SHOULD be willing to scrifice for many years to come by helping these people get by the best they can, but I doubt if they'll give a damn.

Rik, you make such a sweeping statement about those who disagree with you because they 'didn't put their asses on the line'.

Those who have put not only their asses but their very lives and all that entails on the line are part of a very exclusive group.

I would not presume to speak for them. Why do you?

Wherever anyone falls on the political spectrum it is an outrage to pseudo righteously claim such an exclusive group as a political pawn.

Janet Hawkins
AKA grammie

Forget skipping out in combat, when I look at these current cowards in power (Cheney, Rove, Bush, et cetera) I don't believe they've even been in a fist fight in their lives.

Gnite gutless chickenhawks!

Had MSDNC not pleaded with CNBC to move the Deal or No Deal rerun out of Odormoronn's time slot, Meltdown with Odormoronn would have finished an even more abysmal FOURTH place out of FIVE last night, barely beating the FIFTH place show of Paula Zahn.

sean must be from san fran freeko

sean must be from san fran freeko

Posted by: jeff at February 17, 2007 12:41 AM

jeff must be an inbred southerneer freeko

ur turn jeff...

Indierik:

I've been reading the pathetic posts of this 'Factor' character for some time. He doesn't even see what everyone else on here can see; How humorously pathetic it is that someone on here would actually NAME himself "The Factor" and then quote Bill O'Reilly.

This is OlbermannWatch, but have you seen anyone on here naming themselves after Olbermann, and then actually being stupid enough to quote him as a source of factual information? Now, that would be ALMOST as ridiculous as what 'Factor' is doing.

Keith appeals to the "child" inside of all of us. That's why liberals love him so, they never grew up.

"Rik, you make such a sweeping statement about those who disagree with you because they 'didn't put their asses on the line'."

That's correct. They/you have a choice- sign up or shut up. But even if you truly are too old to serve you can still help contribute to this Iraq cause you believe in- encourage your qualified relatives/friends to enlist. The qualifications aren't much- be between the ages of 17 to 42, healthy and a heterosexual. And if they really want to get in the mix I suggest they become an Infantryman.

"I would not presume to speak for them. Why do you?"

Guess what Janet? I did serve (honorably) in The Army. It was the best decision I made as a teenager. Every day I'm thankful for my 4 years in The Service.

Til tomorrow!

"That's correct. They/you have a choice- sign up or shut up."

Is one to take this statement to mean that only those who are/have or will serve in Iraq or Afghanisten have the proper credentials to be citizens? If so, that means that you and I and 99.9% of us should just shut up.

"Guess what Janet? I did serve (honorably) in The Army."

I did not make any reference to your service or lack thereof. I questioned your or anyone elses hubris to sweepingly co-opt the very few who are risking all as polical pawns.

Can't you speak for yourself without trying to bolster your opinions on the backs of a very special group of honorable and brave men and women.

Janet Hawkins
AKA grammie

Isn't Olbermann's show primarily about chasing down the latest 20-year-old YouTube girl? It was Lonelygirl15, then it was BoxInABox girl. Who's Uncle Olbie's next victim?

Keith's show is petty. So petty. But so is this website, watch your language conservatives -> it might make you look..petty.

So it's a "terrorist act" to speak out against the anti troop surge resolution? Wow. Keith has had a very insightful week of news commentary. He said it was "valid criticism" for an NBC News Military Analyst to call U.S. Troops fighting in Iraq "mercinaries" who receive "obscene ammenities" and are "lucky they are not spat upon". He defended bloggers who called Christians "mean and jealous motherf*****s who want to punish them with babies". This in the same week that he is rewarded with a new four year contract. God Bless America

Was quite amusing to see the constant reference to the "Real Man" and baldness segment.
Especially the "why do I care, it doesnt concern me.." piece.
Whats the bet that this is Keith's hurt ego talking, Mark Levin must have touched a raw spot by stating he wore a rug.

Wow leftists....The House of Representatives passed a non-binding resolution yesterday hailed by Keith Olbermann as historic....

In which direction is the number of troops in Iraq still trending today?

How much US money will be spent tomorrow as compared to today, in Iraq?

Will George Bush make THE SAME decisions regarding Iraq today he would have made yesterday before the resolution?

Hummm...very effective action on the part of The Democrats...All it really accomplished was to fill dead air on CSPAN.

VOTE ON CUTTING THE FUNDS!

IMPEACH THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT OVER THEIR ILLEGAL ACTIONS!

VOTE ON LIMITING THE NUMBERS OF TROOPS DEPLOYED IN IRAQ!

These actions would be historic....not only political, like the toothless resolution on Friday.

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Wow leftists....The House of Representatives passed a non-binding resolution yesterday hailed by Keith Olbermann as historic....

Yes it was, and it was the first debate concerning the Iraq War ...ever.
The GOP didn't think it was necessary to debate whether we should send our troops into battle to be killed when they were in power.
I guess the gutless, Cee, thinks that's just fine and dandy.

Imagine, a Congress actually doing their jobs !
It's been so long since we've had one, that you Repukes can't identify !

This is the first logical step.
Cutting the funds for the escalation is next.
I personally favor Jack Murtha's plan where our troops take at least a year between tours to keep them fresh and give them thE proper training and ARMOR, unlike Bush who just overextend our troops and throw them into battle w/o enough training nor properly suited.
THAT is something every patriotic America should be outraged about, but our religious and political hypocrite Cee, gives Bush ANOTHER pass on that too.
Pathetic !

I would love to see Billy O'Reilly show up at an Oblerman family reunion (at a zoo pehaps?) and cave keith's face in right in front of his whole family. If anybody deserve an ass kicking for his dishonest lies and adhominem person attacks it is keith olberman. This a--hole is obsessed with O'Reilly to the point of almost stalking him. If I were O'Reilly, I would put an end to it once and for all.

bushkill falls or whatever your cowardly name is, there has been nothing but Iraq debate for the last 3 yrs! Where have you been? Stay away from moveon.org and olbyperv and get some real news, Fox holds 14 of the top 15 spots for a reason, you know.

Rosie O'Donnell (Bushkill) writes the Democrats party line....."Yes it was [historic], and it was the first debate concerning the Iraq War ...ever."

Wrong! Lie. The resolutions prior to the invasion allowed for debate....as did EVERY funding opportunity over the past 4 years!....The republicans allowed for floor debate and amendment votes many times....You just have not been paying attention...There have been HUNDREDS of speeches on the floors of The Senate and The House about the war (pro/con) since 2003.....not to mention A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION that occurred during the war! And if I remember, THE DEMOCRAT TRIED TO MAKE THE WAR A BIG ISSUE! You're an idiot, Rosie.

And debate means NOTHING! It is not HISTORIC. Knowing how some rep from North Carolina feels about Iraq is no big deal.....

Anyone....please show me in the US Constitution that the Congress is defined primarily as a debating society....

Specifically, they have the ability to control financial support for any federal activity....including raising and maintaining an army....

This is what should have been voted on yesterday....funding an armed force in Iraq....

Are you for this or not Rosie?

Also, you seem to frequently say Bush and Cheney have committed crimes and/or have been incompetent in their executive duties....

These are impeachable offenses.

Again, The Congress is lying down on the job to rectify this unconstitutional situation.

DEBATING is NOTHING...action, Rosie, is what is needed....

CUT THE FUNDS!
IMPEACH/REMOVE THE CRIMINALS/INEPT TOADS FROM OFFICE!

Come on now, these leftists demand ACTION!

Quit making excuses for the do-nothings, Rosie...money still flows, Bush still is is power and actually regaining political advantage...

Look at what happened to The Senate action....NOTHING.

A bet, Rosie?.....Murtha's legislation will NEVER PASS because the Democrats do not have the guts to stand up with their rhetoric in action for the next two years. They are all talk, no real action.

Also, George Bush will NEVER face articles of impeachment....wanna bet on that one too, Rosie?

....Would you like to make a gentlemen's bet on these?

The new Congress has done NOTHING with regards to true COEQUAL BRANCHES doctrine...oversight or fund control over the executive....AND THEY WON'T...because they want an issue for 2008....death of more troops in Iraq is a great podium for the left to run on! Congrats!

Keep politicing, Rosie....President Bush will continue being the adult in Washington....leading the country as he is Constitutionally bound to do.

Remember the SECOND QUOTE below?

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Cee says Bush is an adult.
If being an adult is attacking countries that don't attack us, taking the US to war on false pretenses, and continuing the carnage long after nothing has worked in a failing war.
That's being an adult ?
Cee is an idiot.

Bush has EARNED his title of worst president ever.

Don't humor Cee, maybe he'll continue to stay away.
He's a fool !

Cee cries to cut the funds, AND if and when they are cut, Cee will be the first one crying about that too.

Cee is a disingenuous simpleton.

Too bad I only have foolish know-nothings to debate today...BTW I took some valuable time away from the last portion of my lovely vacation to see what the leftist Olbermann apologists have been spewing lately...

I am disapointed to see the level of intellegence of the average lefty poster falling even lower since my departure! Rosie is especially illustrative of the liberal zombie who cannot think for themselves.

And the anons' responses are even more pathetic...But I understand that the actions of your ruling elite is not defensable over the past month....And they will continue to be cowardly and dishonorable...It will be so much fun seeing Olbermann and his ilk spin it all!

All the while President Bush contunues to lead....do what he think is right for our country and ignoring the critics whoi have NO vision, heart or honor. In other words....acting like a leader.

What...no bites at my gentleman's bet?

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Uberloon gets bitchslapped by Michelle
On those ratings you know he won't dwell
Either Malkin or Bill
Krazy Keith never will
Finish first or it's freezing in hell

Cee is a disingenuous simpleton.

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Truer word were never spoken.

Why do you liberals fear the christian coalition more than the Islamists who want to convert you or kill you and then bring Sharia law. Why do you even care about Iraq? How has the Iraq war affected you, personally? Why aren't you outraged Bush has done nothing about Darfur?

Cee is an armchair warriar - in other words, nothing but a coward.

from the simpleton's '???' post today:

Why do you liberals fear the christian coalition more than the islamists who want to convert you or kill you and then bring Sharia law."; ..... ANSWER: We don't really 'fear' either one. The 'Islamists' will never have the strength to "kill or convert" us, just because they 'want' to. As for the "christian coalition", we wnat America to continue as it has - with everyone free to worship as they choose, with no single entity gaining excessive power and influence in Washington.

"Why do you even care about Iraq" ..... ANSWER: What an incredibly selfish question! Is it just beyond your limited mental capacity to undertand that some of us actually DO care about the number of good Americans being killed and maimed? We also care about the moral and well being of our military, which is being drained by the ongoing idiocy. We care about the mounting number of severely wounded, that are going to need lifetime care that I also believe many on the right will balk at giving them, especially if it means raising THEIR taxes to do it. We also care about the strain this war is putting on our treasury, creating a bill our children will struggle to pay for many years to come.

"How has the war affected you" ..... ANSWER: Yet another very selfishly framed question! It affects every American deeply who cares about America, and it's tarnished image in the world - yes, Neocons, that IS important after all!

"Why arn't you outraged Bush has done nothing about Darfur?" ..... ANSWER: It appears we pretty much have our hands tied with Iraq and Afghanistan. I personally would love to see the WORLD come together and do something about Darfur, but not the US by itself. In addition, we no longer have a president who has any credibility with the world on moral issues.

America is NOT the world's policeman, a valuable lesson most of us THOUGHT we had learned after Vietnam.

Hey woogy, how many Cambodians were slaughtered after the Dems cut funds and pulled our troops out of Nam? The Dems didn't learn a damn thing.

If you actually care about the morale of the troops then why not condemn Murtha, Kerry, and Durbin for ,among other things, comparing our troops to Nazi's, telling the foreign press that our troops are terrifying women and children in the middle of the night, and implying that they are too stupid to have done other jobs. Gotta love elitists. Ask them a question and the cry insensitivity or lack of understanding and a complete inability to see their own hypocrisy. I know. I know. We simpletons just don't understand. I need you to save me from myself. Thank God, you are there to care so much. Please let me know when I am supposed to be offended.

We are not the world's policemen? Tell that to South Korea, Canada, Western Europe, Taiwan, and Japan. So we need to take the lead in confronting Global Warming just not Global Terror. Gotcha. I am going to go plant a tree now and make sure I don't offend your sensitivities. Thanks for caring.

Great responses from the Olbermann apologists....I've heard them all before...armchair warriar [sp], coward....etc.

Great point "???"....Liberals demand action and leadership from our country ONLY on issues they see as moral...with just as much evidence of possible national benefit as that given by this administration for the invasion of Iraq. Well I do not agree with the goals for our country of Gore, McGovern, or Carter who have tried and failed before....

The individual who has legal power to pursue the maximum of security and well-being of my family has my support 100%....George Bush....and it just burns the radical left up that they are IMPOTENT to stop the administration for the next two years.

And the next presidential election will be even funnier....why?....Because "religious conservatives" like myself ARE willing to examine and support (with money and votes) great leaders like Rudy Giuliani with differences in regard to social and economic issues.

Unlike the left, the right is willing to listen to people and compromise to achieve the most important goals for our nation...those goals involving the security of our nation.

Although the media (with the likes of the liar, Olbermann), try to portray the political landscape differently, THE LEFT in this country are the intolerant elitists who have been scrambling for power since they lost it in 1994. The behavior of the liberals in Congress will once again show them for who they really are...superficial, dishonorable, self-serving narcissists who do not know anything about protecting our country from those who would like to see our defeat and destruction.

NO current Democratic candidate has the credentials OR character to properly protect our country....and the Dems know it! I laugh as I see Clinton and Obama walk that very thin line between giving mouth-service to the radical left and TRYING to portray themselves as mainstream....what a joke.

Please tell me where I am wrong, liberals? Also...no bets yet on impeachment or fund cutting success? Why? You all chicken?

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Why do you liberals fear the christian coalition more than the Islamists ...?

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I don't know about liberals, but I know as a Catholic I fear fundamentalist Christians because they despise and ridicule our practices, taunt us and insult us. When I would leave Catechism classes or CYA events I would walk home through the Hispanic (Catholic) part of Presidio to avoid the Baptists in the Anglo part of town who would quote Bible scriptures and throw rocks at us. I do have to admit, once we did the flaming bag of dog poop trick on the Baptist preacher's front porch. The moron had dog poop all over his white shoes and up his tan slacks.

The Islamic children never taunted us, and I never had to play tricks on the Imam.

Perhaps, someone who supports a President and a Vice-President who actively evaded military service in a time of war ought to be more prudent in use of the term "coward," O Great Cut-and-Paste King.

Your numbers may be great on this odd blog, but they are declining rapidly among the adult population of this nation, at long last, and among your fellow travelers even Rudy is a more articulate and reasoned spokesperson.

Giuliani, indeed. He'd bankrupt the nation redecorating the family quarters in the White House each time he divorced and remarried.

Ha

So someone got his feelings hurt by some religious nutjobs. Boo hoo freakin hoo. Ever seen those camps training young christian fundamentalists how to use an m-16 or ak-47. Oh that's right it doesn't freakin happen. As an atheist, I am far more afraid by those who think that the free ticket to heaven is martyrdom. Don't kid yourself, at least 20% of these crazy bastards think that way. That is approximately 400 million people who think that the after life is better than their current life, think that killing you, the infidel, is their free ticket, and can't wait to do it.

Ya, but I am afraid of some Bubba who can't see his own hypocrisy in picking and choosing wait to believe who to hate from a book. But his words are so insensitive. Man up! Pussies!

No one even reads Cee's esoteric rambling posts any longer.
His voice has been overridden by the good people of the United States of America.
The more he says what a good leader Bush is, the lower his approval ratings drop.

In 2002, Cee wouild have been preaching to the choir.
Now he's just pissing in the wind.
No matter how many mistakes,poor judgements,and bad policy decisions Bush makes, Cee never notices.
Well, Cee,NO one notices you anymore either.
This will be my last post even adressing you.
You are irrelevant, and your political views have no basis in reality .
You remind me of the last bastions of supporters of Hitler, when even though the war was coming to a close,and everyone else saw what a madman he was, they still blindly followed their insane leader.

why do u care...That is why only 17 republicans voted for the toothless resolution yesterday and there is nothing coming out of The Senate.....my opinion is held by SUCH a SMALL minority....

35% of Americans support President Bush's current Iraq policy.....I guess this is the last bastion you're talking about.

Oh yeah...Bush still is in power and can still do whatever he feels is constitutionally right...too bad for you.

Get real...you just simply have no defense for the nonaction of your leaders...Pelosi, et al....no fund cutting, no troops coming home, no removal of ONE Bush Co. criminal. Nothing has changed. In fact, the opposite of what you wanted has happened....more troops, more money spent in Iraq and Bush/Cheney can still wield their power.

Poor, poor, why do u care what my name is....you believe in a world-view that is vacant of real ideas or optimism. Don't project your frustration on me....it's not my fault you bought the leftist waste hook, line and sinker.

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Oh, and by the way...I couldn't care less if not one of the usual leftist troglodytes read a word of my posts....In the past I have found their responses lacking any cogent points and have found it way too easy to win the argument....like today....It's boring.

But posting the truth with regards to Olbermann's idiocy and the good ol' radical left's hatred and intolerance will continue to be my ONLY motivation.

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

No Islamic nation has ever Committed agression against their neighbor. Muslims are a peaceful bunch that tolerate other religions. Islam means peace. Iran is is a very progressive nation, whose human rights record puts us to shame.

A minority?.....

"Senate won't vote on objection to troop buildup"

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/17/iraq.senate/index.html

Come now fellas....do something REAL....let's see what happens.......oversight! purse strings! impeachment! removal from office!

This quote says it all with regards to the absurdity of how the D's are acting....

"Published polls indicate a solid majority of the U.S. public opposes the Bush plan, and Democrats said the November election victories that put them in control of Congress show Americans want to wind down the nearly four-year-old war."

My question is then.....So why has NOTHING been accomplished in winding it down?

My answer: poor, self-serving political leadership! Ha. Nice.

Impotence has a treatment now!....Cut those funds/impeach those executives! Go GO GO!!!**

**(My recent posts REALLY annoy the radical leftists on this site....simply because I point out how silly and irrelevent they are right now!)

Anymore 500,000 (lie) person protests planned anytime soon, radicals?

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Hopefully the Iraq mess continues so this nation becomes a one party state. I hope that when The Democrats win in 2008, they b an the Republican party. We should also do away with elections as they are not needed. The Democratic party is the only party that should rule.

Here's another money quote from the above article that should put you leftists in a panty bind...

"Though the president said lawmakers 'have every right to express their opinion,' he demanded they support an upcoming spending bill that would commit nearly $100 billion more to the war effort."

Let's wait and see if The Congress meets Bush's demands (I bet they do!).

100 billion more dollars going to the war effort in Iraq...Why will The Democrats allow it?

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Cee,
You're a rightwing Nazi who lies about the peace loving Muslim people.

What?..Please show me a post I have made that you can argue is a lie. (Like I showed how Rosie (Bushkill) lied earlier today).

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"Olbermoronn still hasn't told us what the bloggers wrote."

Will you f---ING SHUT UP ABOUT IT! They RESIGNED! Leave them THE f--- ALONE, a--hole! What do you want, a pound of flesh?

Our ultimate Bush apologist, Lapdog Cee, IS totally irrelevant as someone earlier mentioned.
His undying support of a failed presidency that has neglected any sort of domestic agenda,let corporate America run amuck to the detriment of the citizens of our great country,permitted $billions to be wasted ( missing) in Iraq, and thrown our brave troops into a deadly civil war to be slaughtered,shows how misanthropic his loyalities are.

Bush is indeed one of the lamest lame duck's in American history.The Democratic and Republican candidates early campaigning is just a sign of everyone acknowledgling that the country wants to get these next two years over with as soon as possible and forever rid this country of the stain that has been this president.It reminds me of a scene from Macbeth:
"Out, damned spot! out, I say!"
Out Bush,and rid us of your memory.

The Bush presidency is beyond debate any longer and now has been characterized as tragic at best.

In Malcolm Lowry's "Under the Volcano"there is an essay entitled "The Myth of Sisyphus" where it's argued that the madman in the novel is eternally committed to flinging an old bicycle tire like Sisyphus perpetually rolling his stone: both are "eternally committed to an absurd task."

Trying to defend the failed presidency of George Bush is the most absurd tasks that no sane man would even attempt.

Cee is a "V" man.
The English language is not crowded with words beginning with the letter "v" that suggest anything but negativity .After violence and vengeance, there is also, vulgar, vicious, victim, vermin, vain, vacant,villain, vile.....the list is long with not a lot of smiles.
This is how I ( and obviously others) feel when they read the vacant posts of the "V" man, Cee...not any smiles at all.

He fits right in with his hero , Bush, and throw in Nixon for good measure, as doomed and disgraced figures, incapable of redemption.

Can you imagine the uprorar if the bloggers in question had worked for say a Republican candidate for president?

Missed this one. . . "No Islamic nation has ever Committed agression against their neighbor. Muslims are a peaceful bunch that tolerate other religions. Islam means peace. Iran is is a very progressive nation, whose human rights record puts us to shame."

So wtf was 9/11? Don't recall seeing any "right-wing Christians" flying those planes that day. Muslims one and all. They sure weren't peaceful that day were they? And what about all the Muslims who kill our troops every single day in Iraq? Did they not get the memo that "Islam is a peaceful" religion?

"why do u care...That is why only 17 republicans voted for the toothless resolution yesterday."

ONly?

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ah ha ha ha ha ha ha

Only !

Cee is a delusional twit, who has lost all perspective.

$10 billion of our tax money lost in Iraq.

Never hear any righties mention THEIR money going down the drain.

WHY?

Because a Republican Administration is responsible.

Talk about partisan pathetic fools !

"So wtf was 9/11? Don't recall seeing any "right-wing Christians" flying those planes that day. Muslims one and all. They sure weren't peaceful that day were they? And what about all the Muslims who kill our troops every single day in Iraq? Did they not get the memo that "Islam is a peaceful" religion?"

You apparently didn't get the memo that these are the RADICALS who interpret the Koran in a similar way that Fred Phelps interprets the Bible. In other words, you want to SMEAR ALL MUSLIMS as "jihadists" when in reality only a SMALL MINORITY are in that category.

Then again, you probly agree with that ultra-bigoted Virgil Goode, who got all huffy about the fact that Minnesota elected a Muslim congressman...

Speaking of pathetic,(CEE):
who in their right mind would be on vacation and go to a computer and come to this site?

Ah yes, while lounging at the pool,with drink in hand, one of my main thoughts is going to Olbermnann Watch.
Instead of watching the lovelies at the pool or wherever and even IF this fraud is on vacation, would any of even the most disturbed of posters at this site, come HERE?

What a f---ing joke is this Cee character !

You claimed that Muslims were peace-loving. You claimed Islam was a religion of peace. Obviously it's not. When confronted with the facts, you get pissy. You want to ignore the fact that these people are out to kill us. No wonder you love Olby so much, you both cheer for them and against our troops.

Brandon,
The Jihadis are freedom fighters, so I do sympathize with them. Besides the more American troops die, the better it is for our party!

I see that Brandon is still responding to shill posters as if they were the real thing.

They are the real thing. You just don't want to own up to what low-life bastards you have on your side that they'd support a Muslim extremist over an American soldier or the American citizens who died on 9/11.

Jeff:

An answer to your earlier question about the Cambodian genocide since I can't stay around and post all day.

Our defunding of the Vietnam war was NOT the cause of the Khmer Rouge led genocide that happened later in Cambodia.

Brandon:

No they were NOT the real thing. I've seen you post responses to at least three intentionally over the top shill posts that were probably done by Red wolf of one of his buddies, and you were responding to another shill at 8:55.

Brandon,
Truth be told I'm happy at the deaths of American in Iraq. It equals more votes for my side, so it's a good thing.

Steal our names, lose this site.

You want a Jihad, you got one !

"They are the real thing. You just don't want to own up to what low-life bastards you have on your side that they'd support a Muslim extremist over an American soldier or the American citizens who died on 9/11."

If you believe those morons who are acting like what you think "EBIL LIBRULS" should act like, then you are the DUMBEST f---ING PERSON on this entire planet.

Show me a liberal who would support an jihadist over an American, and I'll show you an idiot who will get the sh-t kicked out of them by me.

whatta buncha kunts!!

why do u care what my name is...I am at the end of a relaxing week in Florida with my wife and son and decided to check on the stupidity of posters like you and Professor Bunsen Honeydew (Bob)....(If you look, I hadn't posted for over one week)

I know since you cannot respond intelligently to my points you fall into silly, sophomoric attacks.

And again, count how many republicans there are in The House....The silly anti-Bush resolution only got 17 republicans....IF the Congress votes on funds or impeachment....I am sure they'll get less (including a lot less D's).....a la: my whole point....YOU GUYS GOT NOTHING!

Once again, neither one of you addressed the FACT that your ruling elite has neither decreased the number of troops in Iraq or stopped the escalation.

And the professor's retreat into Bush bashing is always a sign he cannot address my points....once again ceding the argument....thanks Bunsen! Just like you ceded the George McGovern argument (this is why I love quoting him every time I post), and the climate change argument and the impeachment argument....you ALWAYS go to ad hominem Bush/cee attacks when cornered and then lose. Tsk, tsk....is this what you teach your students?

I would ask for a tuition refund.

Hey professor, what has your tiny protest a few weeks ago done to help our country? In fact, since your silly march, support for The President has risen in polls AND The Congress has been unable to pass anything of substance regarding the war. Sorry you wasted your time, professor.

And again, I will point out that Bush retains all of the constitutional power he had prior to the November elections, in fact using it to increase troop levels AND demanding more than 100 million more in funding.....

I will ask again professor and why do u care what my name is: WILL YOUR DEMOCRAT LEADERS GIVE IN TO THE PRESIDENT'S DEMANDS?

They don't have to.....In fact, if they don't, they will set into motion the very thing you radical leftists want....the return of our troops from Iraq. This is supposed to be why they have their power....why are they not fulfilling your wishes?

WILL YOUR DEMOCRATIC LEADERS REMOVE BUSH/CHENEY FROM OFFICE FOR THE GREAT CRIMES YOU TWO CLAIM THEY HAVE COMMITTED?

I am still waiting for a cogent response, twits.....I may be waiting a lonnnnnnng time, pathetic.

BTW professor, all men are redeemable, even me, even you, even Nixon, even Bush, even OBL...Again, this is another difference between your depressing world-view and mine...I would never place myself as a judge to condemn any man as being unredeemable (a lost cause, refuse), even those who spout hatred, like yourself. That is a big difference between you and me....the arrogant leftist feels he has the right and ability to judge on such matters. Some advise....think before you post.

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

yawn

Definition of "Bushbashing"

Stating exactly, the dubious failures of George W. Bush.

Hey, "why do u care what my name is", GO f--- YOURSELF, ya pansy ass cut'n'paste retard.

Keep stealing names b/c YOU have no life, and you get spammed.

Scout's promise.

Take back the board.
POWER TO THE PEOPLE !

Death to the name stealing pigs !

hey woogy, I like how you couldn't answer my question, denial, another liberal trademark.

Hecklers were dragged out of a speech by Hillary Clinton today.

Just like the cowards at this site who have no life and steal names should be dragged out of OW.

BTW, we're not going to take your bullsh-t this time in 08'.
You're not going to steal this election, we're not going to let you lie and swiftboat the Democratic candidates this time, without hell to pay.

We took back the Congress and we're taking back the presidency in 08'.

Your Halliburton loving, global warming denying,debt raising economics, Big oil tax breaks,war-mongering, not equpping our troops,money down the drain ( b/c of Iraq) is all going to end.
So enjoy the last few months you have, with your hysterical Chimp in the White House, madman vicepresident,and 31% approval rating.
Your reign of error has ruined it for any decent republicans who want to serve.

America doesn't want what your selling any longer and it will be cold day in hell, and a few generations away before you get back any power.

Instant Karma is going to get you, get you real bad.
You earned it, you deserve it.
And the country will celebrate it.

Bye bye republicans, you had your chance and you blew it.

You think I'm wrong?

Didn't you think you'd keep at least one house of Congress in November?

Surprise, surprise, surprise !

You got another one coming in 08.'

Ah look it's another one of the Olbyloons who thinks that if they post a 50,000 nonsense post that it will somehow shut down discussion here on Olbermannwatch. I guess you must be bitterly disappointed that Olbermann's resigning a new contract didn't mean the end of this blog. In fact, it means a new four-year lease (not that Olbermann will last that long).

And P.S.? The left has shown time and time again they'd rather support the muslim extremists who seek to destroy our way of life than support the troops. That isn't a shrill reaction to a "fake" post as you put it, it's the truth.

And how would you know who is making posts under multiple names unless you yourself are guilty of those same acts? It's another one of the Olbyloon's favorite fantasies, that all of the people who dislike Olbermann have to be ONE person, never mind they can clearly see how many people are here at Owatch at any given time as soon as they hit the front page of the blog. They want so desperately to believe that their little pathetic fan sites have anywhere near the traffic that this anti-Olbermann site does that they pull any number of outrageous claims out of their fat asses. now it's that any loony liberal post made has to be a "fake" post because you don't want to own up to who and what your fellow party members are really like. I can go to DU and to Kos and see posts like this every single day. You people DO believe sh-t exactly like this. You know, like Castro and Chavez are great people who have wonderful "Utopian" societies.

One of your chief cowards:

WASHINGTON Feb 16, 2007 (AP)— Republican presidential hopeful John McCain, a staunch supporter of sending more troops to Iraq, will skip a Senate vote on the war Saturday to campaign in Iowa while other candidates rearrange their schedules.

Too busy!
Shirking his responsiblity.
Not a prayer's chance of winning the presidency.

Any candidate that supports this war in Iraq, WILL NOT WIN IN 08'.
Got that ?

"The left has shown time and time again they'd rather support the muslim extremists who seek to destroy our way of life than support the troops. That isn't a shrill reaction to a "fake" post as you put it, it's the truth".

Lies such as this will be dealt with in the manner it deserves
WITH A SWIFT KICK IN THE ASS.

You motherf---ers have supported the Muslim extremists BY MAKING MORE OF THEM, with your war in Iraq.

You haven't a clue on how to fight the war on terror.
All you do is make it worse with your braindead cowboy in the White House.

A president needs to be able to think wisely and rationally and not shoot first.

You days are over, and your lies will not be tolerated any longer.

Ah look it's another one of the Olbyloons who thinks that if they post a 50,000 nonsense post that it will somehow shut down discussion here on Olbermannwatch.

Brandon is as stupid as he sounds.

Spamming the board is to shut down the morons who steal names and make a mockery of this site.

The left wants discussion and the truth to come out.

Not going to take your lies any longer sitting down.

You know, like Castro and Chavez are great people who have wonderful "Utopian" societies.

Posted by: Brandon at February 18, 2007 12:13 AM

More f---ing lies.

You NEVER hear anyone on the left talk about Castro, Chavez etc.

It's only YOU morons.

And Brandon is one of the morons-in chief.

Any candidate that supports this war in Iraq, WILL NOT WIN IN 08'.
Got that ?

Posted by: america has spoken at February 18, 2007 12:16 AM

That's exactly how America does feel.

( We won't tell the olby haters. They'll find out in 08')

Let's compare :

Republican presidential hopeful John McCain, a staunch supporter of sending more troops to Iraq, will skip a Senate vote on the war Saturday to campaign in Iowa while other candidates rearrange their schedules.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., had planned to spend a full day in New Hampshire. Instead, she will host a town hall meeting in Dover, N.H., in the morning and then return to Washington to vote. Two events in the afternoon and evening had to be canceled.

Just like the republicans in Congress are pissed that they now have to work on Saturdays and put a full work week in.
Poor babies!
Those mean Democrats making them work for the people.
Let's all shed a tear for the Republicans who don't like working .

America will become a one party state. We will outlaw the Republican party. All religions except Islam will be banned. There will be no more elections and Hillary will be President for life! Get used to it you neocon losers

You see I don't have to work. I collect food stamps to buy 12 packs and I am married to my sister. I post here all day because I'm pissed of my Mom and Dad were brother and sister. Just another day in the life of me in this Trailer Park.

Last one was another name stealer. Says the same f---ing things over and over and over and over and over again.

Always includes the word Islam or jihad etc.
WE DON'T, you do.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h ah ah ah ha ha ha h

So f---ing predictable.

We laugh at your redundency( look it up)
Fools !

We will convert the National Cathedral to a National Mosque in 2009. We will throw the Republicans in gulags!

like we believe that one too!( Voice of Reason)

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h ah ha ha h ah ha ha h a

Didn''t get laid tonite , did ya ?

2 Americans died in Iraq today and I'm happy about it. The more deaths the better it is politically for us Democrats. I am now going pop a bottle in celebration!

America is against the War in Iraq, and for taking steps to counteract global warming.

You little boys are for playing with yourselves.

Have fun.

2 Americans died in Iraq today and I'm happy about it. The more deaths the better it is politically for us Democrats. I am now going pop a bottle in celebration!

Posted by: The Decider at February 18, 2007 12:48 AM

Golly gee I heard you say this before, but I never heard anyone on the left say it.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h ah ha h ah ha h

Better hide those pictures of little boys you have on your computer, they're coming to your door to get you !

You scum sucking low life.

That's why I celebrate American troop deaths. It helps my side politically. I love it. I wish 10 soldiers a day die! That way Hillary can win and we turn America into a one Party state. We control Congress, The courts, The Media, The Universities and The Entertainment establishment. All we are missing is the Presidency. Then we will ban the Republican party and establish a People's Democracy like the old Soviet Union!

FAMOUS REPUBLICANS :

Ted Haggard: preached the word of God( in real life snorted speed while he blew his male lover)

Mark Foley: campaigned to keep sexual predators off the internet.( in real life was a sexual predator)

Red Wolf: has no job, no life and spends hours upon hours here at this site( in real life: has no job, no life and spends hours and hours here at this site)

Red Wolf's friends: Think they're making some kind of statement by pretending their clear thinking posters.( in real life, are laughed at and thought to be pedaphiles)

I am obssesed with Bush. Bush is all I think about. I have no life other than Bush!

News flash DID NOT get any tonight.
at least heterosexually.

Went out and cruised for young boys and came back to his favorite place on earth: This site !
to find intelligent posters , use their names and then talk trash.

Isn't it time for another pedaphilia video?

We'll wait unti you come back.

Bush is on my mind 24/7.

I'm obsessed with people who care about their country. I mock them. I make fun of them.
I'm a retart.

Important news of the day!

Britney shaves herself bald, gets tattoo 2 hours, 15 minutes ago

Britney Spears appeared in a tattoo parlor in the San Fernando Valley with her head shaved completely bald.

Video on KABC-TV showed the newly shorn Spears with tiny tattoos on the back of her neck as she sits Friday night for a new tattoo — a pair of red and pink lips.

"She just wanted something real small on her wrist, something dainty," Max Gott, the tattoo artist at Body and Soul in Sherman Oaks, told the TV station. "She got some cute little lips on her wrist."

Derrik Snell, who works at the tattoo parlor, said Spears showed up without notice and stayed for about 90 minutes as about 60 fans, photographers and gawkers gathered outside.

"She seemed fine," Snell said. "I didn't really notice (the hairdo) at first, she had a hood on when she showed up."

Before heading to the tattoo parlor, Spears grabbed an electric clipper and shaved her own head at a San Fernando Valley salon Friday night, CNN reported.

"I tried to talk her out of it. I said, 'Are you sure you're not having a bad day and tomorrow you'll feel differently about it? Why don't we wait a little bit?'" salon owner Esther Tognozzi told the network.

"She said 'No, I absolutely want it shaved off now.' Next thing I know, she grabbed the buzzer and she went to the back of my salon and she was shaving off her own hair," Tognozzi said.

The appearance came the same day as reports on TV and Web sites that Spears, who has drawn criticism for her recent partying and sloppy behavior, had briefly checked into rehab.

Larry Rudolph, Spears' manager, couldn't be reached for comment.

Syndicated entertainment TV show "Extra" first reported that Spears had entered a treatment facility. Celebrity Web site TMZ.com then said the singer had entered a treatment center but had checked out one day later. Neither revealed their sources.

People magazine's Web site, citing "a source," said Spears had gone in and out of rehab, and identified the facility as Eric Clapton's Crossroads center in Antigua, in the Caribbean.

"Access Hollywood" then said the reports weren't true, but didn't cite a source.

A woman who answered the phone at Crossroads told The Associated Press that she couldn't confirm or deny anyone's presence at the facility.

Angelique Uram, a Spears fan who stood on the tattoo parlor's sidewalk for Friday night's spectacle, was aghast at the singer's new look.

"We could see her in the mirror, and her head is completely shaved," she told KABC. "It looks terrible."

Police arrived to control the crowd and helped Spears' bodyguards guide her into a waiting SUV, her head covered by a hooded sweatshirt.

I have nothing to say. I have nothing to do.
I'm a total loser, and my posts prove it.

Look at me !Now I'm Bushkills Falls everyone.

Boy, I'm diverse. Boy, I'm an idiot !

I like boys.

Bush is all I care about. I have no other hobbies other than thinking about Bush and hoping for chaos in Iraq. As long as it helps my Party, I love it.

Any time President Bush holds a press conference, odds are high that a strong contender for the week's most ludicrous quote will crop up. This week's strangely light-hearted presidential presser was no exception. First there was his utter disbelief over questions about the accuracy of his administration's intelligence on Iran providing explosives to Iraq: "The idea that somehow we're manufacturing the idea that Iranians are providing IEDs is preposterous." Preposterous indeed -- where would anyone ever get an idea like that from? Then came Bush's claim that he can't judge whether Iraq is a civil war while "living in this beautiful White House." His lovely surroundings didn't keep him from judging that he needed to order up another 21,500 troops did they? It would be downright comical, if it wasn't so bloody tragic.

I cried when Zarqawi was killed. He was my idol. I'm going to buy his T-Shirt and hang his picture on my wall. Another Idol of mine is Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. He threatened to wipe Israel off the map and I thought that was cool. He called for the end of US and I thought that was cool!

New Rule: There's more to being smart than just not misspeaking. The world is a complicated place. Sometimes it all feels like a runaway train of violence, resentment and insecurity - sort of like a family reunion at Ryan O'Neil's place. Which is why for this next election, we need to pick the smartest candidate, not the dullest one who simply never had a verbal gaffe and said a wrong word or phrase.
We're a superpower, not a drinking game. It has to be about leadership, not just hitting your buzzer first and remembering to phrase your answer in the form of a question.

A couple of weeks ago, Senator Joe Biden hit the ground flopping when he described Barack Obama as articulate and clean. But if you think he's a racist, then you're not really thinking, you're just playing Gotcha. Yes, the remark was cringe-worthy - it always is when someone old and out of touch says something creepy - even a Chinaman knows that.

However, when it comes to the most important ISSUE of the day, last year, Joe Biden was out ahead on calling for an Iraq broken into three countries - and that is what's going to happen, no matter how much surging George Bush does. And I say fine, so what if Iraq gets broken up, it's a made up country anyway, there's only been an Iraq since 1932 - it's 7 years younger than Paul Newman. And the people in it hate each other so much, and are now in such a, shall we say "intense" phase of the revenge cycle, that they're only going to be able to start breathing again if they live in different countries - which they're already moving to, on their own.

So, the guy who got this right, he can't run, because we're a very sensitive people, and he said a black man was clean, and we care more about a one second verbal brain-fart than we do about who has the right answers. The guy who had the right answer on terrorism in 2004 was John Kerry - he said fighting terrorism was primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation, which doesn't sound macho in elections, but is true, he can't be in the debate either, because he's a crappy comedian. He screwed up a joke - about our troops! Hit the road jack.

Howard Dean has been a virtual Nostradamus on predicting what would happen in Iraq from the beginning. But he screamed once. He said "yee-ha" - publicly! He screamed louder than a crowd of people screaming at him, and the media acted like Grandpa just yelled out the "N" word at a ball game.

And before the war began, it was Al Gore who got it right, who spoke unequivocally about not making this bad choice, a choice that 77 Senators voted for. But during the debates of 2000, Al Gore... sighed! We can't have a sigh-er for president!

Does John Kerry really think the troops are stupid? No, Karl Rove things you're stupid. And if a botched joke or a sigh or a brain-fart is enough to derail you from a wise choice, he's kinda right. Does this mean that Joe Biden or Howard Dean should automatically be president - of course not. But the next time something really bad happens, remember it might have something to do with our election process having turned into an episode of Survivor - not even Survivor, Showtime at the Apollo - one note that's a little off key, and the Sandman comes out with the hook.

So disqualify the smartest leaders because they may have caused you a socially awkward moment, but next time another painful disaster is visited upon us, perhaps because we weren't being led by the best and the brightest, you'll know why: because the black guy on Grey's Anatomy said "Fag!" And by the way, if we're going to choose our presidents by which one never misspeaks, how did we end up with the Chimp we have now?

Howard Dean has been a virtual Nostradamus on predicting what would happen in Iraq from the beginning. But he screamed once. He said "yee-ha" - publicly! He screamed louder than a crowd of people screaming at him, and the media acted like Grandpa just yelled out the "N" word at a ball game.

And before the war began, it was Al Gore who got it right, who spoke unequivocally about not making this bad choice, a choice that 77 Senators voted for. But during the debates of 2000, Al Gore... sighed! We can't have a sigh-er for president!

More Iraq news! I hope Al-Qaeda keeps shooting down Helicopters!

Plan seen behind downings of U.S. copters: report Sat Feb 17, 7:00 PM ET

Documents captured from Iraqi insurgents indicate some of the recent deadly attacks against U.S. helicopters stemmed from a strategic plan to down coalition aircraft, The New York Times reported in its Sunday edition.

The documents, which according to the Times were said to have been drafted by al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, showed the militants were preparing to "concentrate on the air force."

The contents of the documents seized near Baghdad were described in a U.S. intelligence report that was reviewed by The New York Times, and reflected the insurgents' military preparations from late last year, including plans for attacking aircraft using a variety of weapons, the Times said.

U.S. officials say the attacks on coalition aircraft have been carried out by mounting coordinated assaults with machine guns, rockets and surface-to-air missiles.

"Attacks on coalition aircraft probably will increase if helicopter missions expand during the latest phase of the Baghdad Security Plan, or if insurgents seek to emulate their recent successes," the newspaper quoted the intelligence report as saying. Seven helicopters have been shot down since January 20, according to the report, more than all the coalition aircraft shot down last year.

The intelligence report supported concerns that militants had adapted their tactics to step up attacks against helicopters, the Times said.

According to the intelligence report, insurgents plan their attacks by studying flight patterns near U.S. bases and along supply routes. Attackers recently used weapons, including shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles, heavy machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and unguided rockets, that cannot be diverted by the flares helicopters disperse to fool heat-seeking systems, the newspaper said.

The intelligence report said al Qaeda in Mesopotamia led the insurgent group known as the Islamic State of Iraq, and had claimed responsibility for shooting down three helicopters near Taji, Karma and in Diyala Province.

The documents did not make clear whether the new tactics represented an effort by militants in those areas or a nationwide strategy by the group, the Times said.

is it just a coincidence that the left posters make so much MORE sense and the wing nuts......how can I put this nicely....DON'T.

Bush is on my mind 24/7. Iraq is all I think about. I have no life!

I don't care if the troops die. I don't care about my country.
I just hate liberals.
So I take their names and include posts no one will believe that the real name would post.
I is smart.
I is making a fool of myself, but i has no other things to do on a Saturday night : so there.

We are exhausting not only our regular standing combat troops, but also the deployed Guard and Reserve units: the backbone of homeland security.

But that's Ok. Chimpy will be invading Iran soon with Red Wolf and his gay friends.

Red Wolf and his gay friends....sob , sob don't like anyone talking about anything but Keith sucks.
Sob.
Keith sucks has to be the only thing you can post.
sob.
or they'll take your toys and not let you have them back.

Is Red Wolf and his merry band of fags, too much?
In the insane asylum way, too much.

Thse guys have outlived their stay here.

Get along now.

Off with you.

I'm just a loser who posts here all day. That's the beauty of living off welfare and foodstamps.
Being inbred White trash has it's benefits!

The above post resembles Red Wolf and his merry band of gay friends.

Bush sucks!

Buffalo my Comrade. Ot is against the Prty's directive to bash Gays. We must tolerate and promote Gay marriage.

Bush Sucks!

Bush Sucks!

The right wing posters are always talking about Muslim extremists . Got to stop those Muslim extremists.
But we are exhausting not only our regular standing combat troops, but also the deployed Guard and Reserve units: the backbone of homeland security.

Anyone see a paradox in this ?

If you're from the wingnuts side, I'm sure that just went way over your head.
Whizzed right past, Cee's, Brandon's , Red Wolf's, Puck's head.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Bush sucks!

Bush sucks!

Hey Bugs Bunny. Put down that carrot and pictures of young naked boys and address post 1:39.
Dare you.
So much easier to write Bush sucks, than actually say something, right ?

I agree with it. Bush sucks!

Bush sucks!

unbelievable.

No name,
Comrade remember the Party's directive. No Gay bashing. Our Great Mother Hillary will be mad at you!

Maybe I need to explain the word" paradox"?

Because anyone doing what you're doing isn't too bright.

Bush sucks!

Bush sucks!

Bush Sucks!

Bush sucks!

Bush sucks!

Bush sucks!

Bush sucks!

Bush sucks!

This sick f--- must have some low self esteem.

New Rule: There's more to being smart than just not misspeaking. The world is a complicated place. Sometimes it all feels like a runaway train of violence, resentment and insecurity - sort of like a family reunion at Ryan O'Neil's place. Which is why for this next election, we need to pick the smartest candidate, not the dullest one who simply never had a verbal gaffe and said a wrong word or phrase.
We're a superpower, not a drinking game. It has to be about leadership, not just hitting your buzzer first and remembering to phrase your answer in the form of a question.

A couple of weeks ago, Senator Joe Biden hit the ground flopping when he described Barack Obama as articulate and clean. But if you think he's a racist, then you're not really thinking, you're just playing Gotcha. Yes, the remark was cringe-worthy - it always is when someone old and out of touch says something creepy - even a Chinaman knows that.

However, when it comes to the most important ISSUE of the day, last year, Joe Biden was out ahead on calling for an Iraq broken into three countries - and that is what's going to happen, no matter how much surging George Bush does. And I say fine, so what if Iraq gets broken up, it's a made up country anyway, there's only been an Iraq since 1932 - it's 7 years younger than Paul Newman. And the people in it hate each other so much, and are now in such a, shall we say "intense" phase of the revenge cycle, that they're only going to be able to start breathing again if they live in different countries - which they're already moving to, on their own.

So, the guy who got this right, he can't run, because we're a very sensitive people, and he said a black man was clean, and we care more about a one second verbal brain-fart than we do about who has the right answers. The guy who had the right answer on terrorism in 2004 was John Kerry - he said fighting terrorism was primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation, which doesn't sound macho in elections, but is true, he can't be in the debate either, because he's a crappy comedian. He screwed up a joke - about our troops! Hit the road jack.

Howard Dean has been a virtual Nostradamus on predicting what would happen in Iraq from the beginning. But he screamed once. He said "yee-ha" - publicly! He screamed louder than a crowd of people screaming at him, and the media acted like Grandpa just yelled out the "N" word at a ball game.

And before the war began, it was Al Gore who got it right, who spoke unequivocally about not making this bad choice, a choice that 77 Senators voted for. But during the debates of 2000, Al Gore... sighed! We can't have a sigh-er for president!

Does John Kerry really think the troops are stupid? No, Karl Rove things you're stupid. And if a botched joke or a sigh or a brain-fart is enough to derail you from a wise choice, he's kinda right. Does this mean that Joe Biden or Howard Dean should automatically be president - of course not. But the next time something really bad happens, remember it might have something to do with our election process having turned into an episode of Survivor - not even Survivor, Showtime at the Apollo - one note that's a little off key, and the Sandman comes out with the hook.

So disqualify the smartest leaders because they may have caused you a socially awkward moment, but next time another painful disaster is visited upon us, perhaps because we weren't being led by the best and the brightest, you'll know why: because the black guy on Grey's Anatomy said "Fag!" And by the way, if we're going to choose our presidents by which one never misspeaks, how did we end up with the Chimp we have now?

Bush sucks!

Bush sucks

This makes way too much sense.

Bush Sucks!

No name,
Comrade remember the Party's directive. No Gay bashing. Our Great Mother Hillary will be mad at you!

Posted by: Batman at February 18, 2007 1:46 AM

"No Name"? How about Redwolf?

The mental midget is back.
Totally lobotomized.
Bush sucks.
Bush sucks.

Hello everyone: Here is your clever right wing. Take a close look.
A real close look.
Bush sucks.

how did we end up with the Chimp we have now?

Posted by: at February 18, 2007 2:24 AM

a--holes vote for an a--hole and then when sh-t comes out all over the place they call it a strategy for fighting terror!

Bush Sucks!

Bush Sucks!

Posted by: Elmer Fudd at February 18, 2007 2:32 AM

Posted by red-brandon-wolfinski

Bush sucks!

I'm just a loser who posts here all day. That's the beauty of living off welfare and foodstamps.
Being inbred White trash has it's benefits!

Posted by: at February 18, 2007 1:32 AM

Posted by Redwolf

Bush sucks!

Posted by: Felix the Cat at February 18, 2007 2:34 AM

Posted by redwolf

Bush sucks!

Hey no name loser,
I'm not redwolf. Obviously you are obsessed with him. I gues you jerk off and think about him!

Brandon did write this or did J$?

"Krazy Keith has a hard-on for Bill
But for women he needs a blue pill
He's obsessed with Fox
He hates Robert Cox
He's a hack with an hour to kill"

----- Only in your wildest dreams would Keith Olbermann acknowledge the deluded crew of wanna-be's who man this page for Bill O'lielly and Fox Noise.

Robert Fox has never scraped the surface of a single significant issue that matters to this nation.

The First Amendment of the Constitution requires a free press. Cox for Fox is nothing more than an attempt to salvage the damage KO has done to Fox Noise and Bill O'lielly.

Saying Keith Olbermann is obsessed with Cox is the same as saying this page is not obsessed with Keith Olbermann's dick size and stiffness. It is just plain denial of the obvious!

How has Olbermann damaged O'Reilly? You are really delusional like Olbermann.

Hey no name loser,
I'm not redwolf. Obviously you are obsessed with him. I gues you jerk off and think about him!

Posted by: Batman at February 18, 2007 2:46 AM

So typical of you to be this stupid. You call me a loser for not posting my name as you post here nightly under dozens of names simply because the use of names like "Brandon" or even "Redwolf" has long ago been synonymous with dumb a--hole! You are the one setting the standard of hiding one's name. What a pathetic loser you are.

How has Olbermann damaged O'Reilly? You are really delusional like Olbermann.

Posted by: The loser going by the name Sylvester the Cat at February 18, 2007 2:55 AM

Hey "Loser",
If Keith Olbermann hasn't severly damaged O'lielly's reputation then explain why he put up the cash to start this pathetic page???

"If Keith Olbermann hasn't severly damaged O'lielly's reputation then explain why he put up the cash to start this pathetic page???"

What evidence do you have to support your claim?

This site has to be funded by O'Reilly! That's what the Daily Kos said.

"If Keith Olbermann hasn't severly damaged O'lielly's reputation then explain why he put up the cash to start this pathetic page???"

What evidence do you have to support your claim?

Posted by: Syslvester the Cat at February 18, 2007 3:08 AM

You go from posting stupid sh-t to asking for evidence? Isn't that the job of J$ to do?

The evidence is this page is devoted to bringing down the man responsible for putting O'lielly's face on the TV nearly 5 nights a week as the worst person in the world.

If Keith Olbermann only attacked the republican pimps and whores this page would never have been invented. All one has to do to prove my point that this page is in reality a Fox Noise defense page is to make note of J$'s Fox Noise defense page.

How f---ing stupid do you have to be to think anyone would see this page any other way.

Pathetic

I think your paranoid!

Jeff:

Its' funny how you accused me of "not answering your question" about "how many Cambodians were killed after we pulled our troops out of Vietnam after I carefully explained that the genocide in Cambodia had nothing to do with America pulling it's troops out of Vietnam.

You might as well have asked "how many troops were killed in Panama after we pulled our troops out of Vietnam".

Could it be that you are trying to play a trivia game preceded by an irreleant question?

Olbermann has damaged O'Reilly? LOL! I don't know what it is you people are taking in the overnight hours that makes you post garbage like this but I'm sure it must be an illegal substance of some kind. Then again, knowing how stupid some of you can be from my visits to liberal message boards and Olbermann fan sites, no, you're probably just this delusional naturally. Get a job, get some sleep and maybe you'll start making sense instead of posting inane and insane rambligns on message boards in the middle of the night.

And I've said it before and I'll say it again, unlike you spineless cowards, some of you who are too stupid and too unoriginal to even think up a user name, I only use ONE name here and one name only. It's another one of the Olbyloon fantasies that anyone who has anything bad to say about Olbermann posts under multiple names. I'm sure it's really the Olbyloons who are guilty of this kind of behavior and what they are doing is projecting. It's an old, tired talking point of theirs and there is no truth whatsoever to it at least where I'm concerned.

I hate to see it go, because there are some good posts here, some interesting exchanges of ideas, but this site is spent. It has been thoroughly ruined by the cutters and pasters and the cartoon characters. A real shame.

Shultzy- There are still pockets of genius here so just pick your moments.

New Rule: There's more to being smart than just not misspeaking. The world is a complicated place. Sometimes it all feels like a runaway train of violence, resentment and insecurity - sort of like a family reunion at Ryan O'Neil's place. Which is why for this next election, we need to pick the smartest candidate, not the dullest one who simply never had a verbal gaffe and said a wrong word or phrase.
We're a superpower, not a drinking game. It has to be about leadership, not just hitting your buzzer first and remembering to phrase your answer in the form of a question.

A couple of weeks ago, Senator Joe Biden hit the ground flopping when he described Barack Obama as articulate and clean. But if you think he's a racist, then you're not really thinking, you're just playing Gotcha. Yes, the remark was cringe-worthy - it always is when someone old and out of touch says something creepy - even a Chinaman knows that.

However, when it comes to the most important ISSUE of the day, last year, Joe Biden was out ahead on calling for an Iraq broken into three countries - and that is what's going to happen, no matter how much surging George Bush does. And I say fine, so what if Iraq gets broken up, it's a made up country anyway, there's only been an Iraq since 1932 - it's 7 years younger than Paul Newman. And the people in it hate each other so much, and are now in such a, shall we say "intense" phase of the revenge cycle, that they're only going to be able to start breathing again if they live in different countries - which they're already moving to, on their own.

So, the guy who got this right, he can't run, because we're a very sensitive people, and he said a black man was clean, and we care more about a one second verbal brain-fart than we do about who has the right answers. The guy who had the right answer on terrorism in 2004 was John Kerry - he said fighting terrorism was primarily an intelligence and law enforcement operation, which doesn't sound macho in elections, but is true, he can't be in the debate either, because he's a crappy comedian. He screwed up a joke - about our troops! Hit the road jack.

Howard Dean has been a virtual Nostradamus on predicting what would happen in Iraq from the beginning. But he screamed once. He said "yee-ha" - publicly! He screamed louder than a crowd of people screaming at him, and the media acted like Grandpa just yelled out the "N" word at a ball game.

And before the war began, it was Al Gore who got it right, who spoke unequivocally about not making this bad choice, a choice that 77 Senators voted for. But during the debates of 2000, Al Gore... sighed! We can't have a sigh-er for president! That's why I think every candidate has to come out NOW, and say or do the stupidest thing they possibly can, and get it out of the way.

* Chris Dodd must tell the religious right to take their abstinence programs and go back to Hymentown.

* John Edwards must be caught hiring an illegal alien to wash his hair.

* Sam Brownback must be caught having sex with his wife that is not for procreational purposes.

* Hillary Clinton must mispronounce South Carolina "Mouth Vagina."

* Barack Obama must tell people he's, quote, "bigger than Jesus."

* Rudy Giuliani has to declare at a press conference that he's cheating on his wife, but it's ok because he's undergoing cancer treatment and he can't get an erection anyway. He did?

* John McCain must be caught with a Filipino bar girl with an Adam's apple.

The sad thing is, all of those could really work. Does John Kerry really think the troops are stupid? No, Karl Rove things you're stupid. And if a botched joke or a sigh or a brain-fart is enough to derail you from a wise choice, he's kinda right. Does this mean that Joe Biden or Howard Dean should automatically be president - of course not. But the next time something really bad happens, remember it might have something to do with our election process having turned into an episode of Survivor - not even Survivor, Showtime at the Apollo - one note that's a little off key, and the Sandman comes out with the hook.

So disqualify the smartest leaders because they may have caused you a socially awkward moment, but next time another painful disaster is visited upon us, perhaps because we weren't being led by the best and the brightest, you'll know why: because the black guy on Grey's Anatomy said "Fag!" And by the way, if we're going to choose our presidents by which one never misspeaks, how did we end up with the Chimp we have now?

Hey everyone, Cee's on vacation( which he loves to tell us )
And what's does Cee DO on vacation?
He comes to the OW !
How pathetic is that !

50% of the American people don't know that Rudy Giuliani is pro choice and supports gay marriage.
When the hard right find out, they will not be too pleased.Also the 9/11 families have revealed what fraud he is.
Scratch Rudy.

John McCain supports the escalation of the war.
America does not, by a wide margin.He has hired the Swiftboat people for his campaign.
Scratch Mccain.

Mitt Romney has changed his positions on a number of key issues, just to run for president.How can you change your position on abortion to run for president ?
He used to be a moderate , but he knows to win a GOP nomination he has fall in with the gay bashing ,abortion clinic bombing , war escalating far right wing of the republican party.

Scratch Mitt.

And the funniest part of all these projected losers is that none of them will seek the endorsement of the president of the United States.
They will run as far as they can from him b/c even THEY know how much contempt the American people have for Chimpy.

Sad state and bad time in history to be a republican.

Is America safe?

Today, more than 40% of our combat and combat support units in Iraq are National Guard and Reserve forces. We cannot continue to maintain and expand our military operations in Iraq without these Guard and Reserve forces. Many of their units have been redeployed multiple times in violation of the agreements Guard members sign when they enlist. We are exhausting not only our regular standing combat troops, we are also exhausting the deployed Guard and Reserve units.

Most important, the National Guard units in Iraq are not in the United States standing post over our nation's security at home. They are not being trained and equipped for this vital mission. If we are in fact at war with terrorism, we are leaving our homeland flanks totally exposed. The Administration and its supporters have excused this dereliction in security with the hollow slogan: We're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here.

This specious argument fails on several counts. The "them" we are fighting in Iraq are overwhelmingly Iraqi insurgents who have no interest in following us home. And the relatively small but growing numbers of al Qaeda in Iraq can do more than one thing at once, as the people of London and Madrid can testify. It is the United States that cannot fight them there using National Guard forces needed to fight them here.

Members of Congress truly concerned with national security will pass legislation requiring National Guard forces in Iraq to be steadily withdrawn and restored to the homeland security mission originally placed upon them by the Constitution of the United States.

Does anyone care that $10 billion of our tax money is LOST in Iraq?
Can anyone justify that the Republicans are good stewards of our money ?
Can anyone understand or explain why Bush has not launched an investigation into the loss of this money?

FACT: the republicans ignored this loss of money, and the overcharging and corruption by the reconstruction American companies in Iraq.
The democrats are the ones launching investigations into this corruption.

And you're still a Republican?

Shame on you !

I'm outta here for the day.
Since the drunks and perverts are still sleeping off their benders, I'm sure they will be back soon posting under my name.

Why do you liberals fear the christian coalition more than the Islamists who want to convert you or kill you and then bring Sharia law. Why do you even care about Iraq? How has the Iraq war affected you, personally? Why aren't you outraged Bush has done nothing about Darfur?

Who cares at billions of our tax money ?

Don't you know Anna Nicole died ?

Rep. Jefferson to Get Homeland Security Seat

Yep you know those dems and their ethics.

You ever hear of the "Big Dig"? You know how much Teddy and Kerry care about the loss of Billions of Dollars.

"How has the Iraq war affected you, personally?"

Another self centered , me first, what 's in it for me, Republican?

So what 100's of thousands of people are dying in the Iraq War.
It doesn't affect the above poster, so what ?

Republicans don't have consciences.

( PS: over 3,000 families in the US have personally affected by the War in Iraq with the death of their loved ones.10's of thoussands of Americans have been affect with the maiming of their loved ones because of this war)

Yep you know those dems and their ethics.

Posted by: ethics? at February 18, 2007 11:09 AM

QUESTION for the above poster:
Which party instigated an ethics reform bill in Congress?
The GOP Congress that had 6 years to do it, or the Democratic Congress that did it in 2 weeks?

I'll await your answer.

PS. I think Jefferson should be thrown out on his ass, but he WAS relected so that's impossible.

Who cares about the war in Iraq?

Anna Nicole we miss you.

I know this is hard for you sensitive pricks to believe, but you are f---ing hypocrites. You get all wound up about death, but don't scream at Bush for doing nothing in Darfur. You don't scream about the AIDS epidemic in Africa, you don't care about the people enslaved in North Korea. I don't know the rules. Please tell me when I am supposed to be outraged. You elitist prick. I have no conscience? I ask a simple f---ing question and because you can't answer it you jump to the "meanie card".

Did you know that Anna Nicole once worked as a waitress?

Fascinating!

It's amazing what you can find ut watching the news.

You get all wound up about death, but don't scream at Bush for doing nothing in Darfur.

Are you?

When are you going to start?

Who's the hypocrite ?

We're waiting.

a--hole.

"You don't scream about the AIDS epidemic in Africa."

Are you?

Is the US the policeman of the world?

Just asking.

The answer is this. Neither party wants reform, especially when they are in charge. This so called ethics reform bill is bull sh-t window dressing. It does absolutely nothing.

I am not the one screaming about Iraq, dumbass. What does it matter what I say about Darfur or AIDS? I am not the one with the false piety. Google search hypocrite if this whole concept is confusing for you.

And yes the US is the world's policeman. Just ask South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, Canada, Western Europe etc... Only a conservative would suggest that we aren't.

So let me get this right. ??? wants us to scream and cry out about Darfur, AIDS in Africa, third-world debt, human rights across the globe, and global warming and all the other combined ills of the world, but when directly asked what THEY are doing says, "What does it matter what I say about Darfur or AIDS?"

Typical Olbermann-Loon Hypocrite in action. You're either part of the soluton or you're part of the problem. Dont come here and accuse us of being part of the problem when you're not willing to be part of the solution. Instead you post rants here asking us to post about issues you feel are important, and indeed those are all worthy issues, but you have no idea how we feel about them. You seem to be miffed we're not discussing them and instead are discussing Olbermann. I remind you that this is not a message board devoted to the world ills, just to one highly biased "news" anchorman.

So here's my challenge to you: get your hero Olbermann interested in these issues. I don't see him spending any time on them on a nightly basis. Why that might mean having to take his fatass out of a plush studio in NY or Secaucus to go into the field and actually report from African or Darfur or Iraq or any of the troubled zones in this world. Olbermann doesn't do that. Why he can't even be bothered to report on it from the confines of his plush and safe studio. So why aren't you furious at HIM for ignoring it?

You're just illogical on any number of points there ???.

Brandon,

My man did you even read what I wrote? I was calling the anonymous douchebag a hypocrite for getting all worked up over Iraq and not giving a sh-t about Darfur or AIDS in Africa. He also asked if we were the world's policeman. I pointed out in effect, we were and that only a conservative has the ideological muster to argue that we SHOULDN'T be. After all, liberals are globalists.

After all, liberals are globalists.

Posted by: ??? at February 18, 2007 12:02 PM

Yes, the liberals want the war in Iraq to continue and to attack iran.
NOT.
boneheads to the nth degree.

??? and Brandon are both on the same side( the wrong side) and they are arguing with each other.

The Keystone Cops come to mind. !

The Wingnuts are such a joy to watch, fall apart and disintegrate.

The Republican Party RIP.

The Republican Party RIP

Hey, defenders of Islam.
What does the below story have to do with Iraq?

At least 28 bombs explode in Thailand By RUNGRAWEE C. PINYORAT, Associated Press Writer
37 minutes ago

At least 28 bombs exploded Sunday in apparently coordinated attacks in parts of southern Thailand plagued by a Muslim insurgency, killing three people and wounding more than 50, the military said.

The bombings targeted hotels, karaoke bars, power grids and commercial sites in the country's southernmost provinces, the only parts of predominantly Buddhist Thailand with Muslim majorities. Two public schools were torched.

Police said three Thais of Chinese descent were also gunned down in Pattani province in what was believed to be the act of insurgents. The killings occurred as the country's Chinese community was celebrating the Lunar New Year Sunday.

Violence in the south has been escalating in recent months despite a major policy shift by the military-imposed government, which is trying to replace an earlier, iron-fisted approach in dealing with the rebels with a "hearts and minds" campaign.

More than 2,000 people have died in the provinces bordering Malaysia since the insurgency erupted in 2004, fueled by accusations of decades of misrule by the central government. The insurgents have not announced their goals, but they are believed to be fighting for a separate state imbued with radical Islamic ideology.

In Sunday's attacks, two people were killed and 33 injured in Yala province, while one person died and 20 were wounded in a tourist town in Narathiwat province, said Col. Wichai Thongdaeng, a military spokesman.

"We believe that the attacks were planned to cause division, create fear among the people. They want to show that they are still capable (of carrying out attacks)," he said, adding the military has sent additional troops to the region.

Two explosions tore through electricity transmitters in Pattani province, causing blackouts in several areas, said Pattani police Maj. Gen. Kokiat Wongworachart.

Five bombs exploded in the border town of Sungai Kolok, a popular destination for Malaysian and Singaporean tourists, said Maj. Gen. Yongyut Chareonwanit, the Narathiwat police chief. At least two schools in the province had been torched, he said.

Wichai said nine bombs went off in the Yala provincial capital and another seven in the border town of Betong, which also attracts tourists to its entertainment venues. A sizable number of Sunday's bombings were against karaoke parlors, which are regarded as decadent by the Islamic rebels.

Two bombings were also reported in neighboring Songkhla province.

Yeah, those Muslims are so mad about Iraq and Israel, thet there bombing Buddists. I want to hear you Radical Lefties defend the Muslims on this one!

Yeah, those Muslims are so mad about Iraq and Israel, that there bombing Buddists. I want to hear you Radical Lefties defend the Muslims on this one!

The Lefties are now gathering their talking points!

I'm out of here. I will come back later to see what the Lefties will post to defend their Islamic allies.

Islam is a religion of peace.

Now convert or die infidel!!!!

This article is lie! Mulsims never committ agression against others. This is Rightwing propaganda!

I want to hear you Radical Lefties defend the Muslims on this one!

Posted by: The Joker at February 18, 2007 1:03 PM

The braindead Joker forgets that no lefty at this site has EVER defended terrorists.

Duh !

Exactly. Why do the wingnuts keep posing over and over that liberals defend Islamic terrostis?
All these clowns have are lies !

"Exactly. Why do the wingnuts keep posing over and over that liberals defend Islamic terrostis?"

Keith Olbermann defends them!

I'm sorry,
I meant Keith Ulbermonn!

If these a--holes didn't have their lies about Islam and liberals, they'd have nothing else to post about.

What else are they going to talk about ?
There is nothing in the political spectrum going their way.

Keith Olbermann defends them!

Posted by: Ralph at February 18, 2007 1:34 PM

Prove it. Post one quote of KO's where he defends Islamic extremists.

I guess this issue is closed.

I can see that this site will be of no interest or value today. Many thanks, Joker. No wonder the right is dying a slow death in the US.

I think I'll go clean out the garage.

There's a Duke BB game on.Forget the garage.

The Decider,

When he called people plotting terror attacks,"Alleged and Purported."
When he dfended the Cartoon riots.
When he defended Hizballah.

But you are changing the subject. What about Joker's article about Jihad against Thailand?
Any comments?

Silence, from the Left!

??? posts about Darfur and AIDS in Africa? Here's a suggestion. If you don't want to catch AIDS, then keep your f---ing dick in your pants. AIDS is a bahorial problem. Just because most of the continent of Africa (and most American liberals) doesn't seem to understand that doesnt change the facts.

AIDS is a bahorial problem.

What's a bahorial problem?

But you are changing the subject. What about Joker's article about Jihad against Thailand?
Any comments?

Posted by: Ralph at February 18, 2007 1:49 PM

What about it?

I don't take responsibility of what the Jihadists do. Do you ?
Just how stupid are you ?

Your questions get dumber and dumber.
Plus no one reads any of the posts by any of the cartoon characters : the Joker, Batman, Bugs Bunny etc.

???:

Since I am the only one I know of on here who made the statement that "we are not the world's policeman', I suppose I must be the one you called an "anoymous douchebag", as well as a 'hypocrit'.

First off, the post wasn't 'anonymous' at all since I've been using this 'Woogy'`name for some time now. Second, resorting to calling someone who disagrees with you meaningless put downs like 'douchebag' do nothing to bolster your case, or your own cedibility. On the contrary, it makes you sound like a junior high school kid.

You are, after all, the one who couldn't articulate well enough to avoid confusing one of your own (although Brandon has proven to be rather easy to confuse).

Stating "we are not the world's policeman" is not hypocritical at all. First off, I am not really a 'liberal', except maybe to those on the extreme right, and therefore a label I will accept gladly. Try as you people might, 'liberal' cannot be painted with the broad brush you kep trying to use, neither can 'moderates'.

"We are not the world's policeman" simply because it is NOT at all in our best interest to try to do so. I also stated I would love to do something about Darfur, but ONLY if the majority of the world's countries came together to share eqaully in the effort. America HAS to act in it's OWN best interest, something it has not been doing for the last six years.

The rest of the world is watching us slowly WEAKEN by beating our collective head against the wall trying to 'win' in Iraq while they sit back and watch - and wait. Meanwhile NOBODY on your side seems to be able to put forth a coherent definition of what 'victory' would be, or how it would manifest itself. It seems pretty obvious that Iraq will either become a Shiite dominated theocracy, or will split apart into at least three states, no matter what we do or don't do from this point on.

Now for one more correction; 'Liberals' are not at all the 'globalists' you say they are. The 'globalists' are the Republican bluebloods like Bush, the very people your side keeps defending for incomprehesible reasons.

Decider,
What's the Left's excuse for their Jihad against Thailand. Why is that when Muslims are attacked, the Left gets all worked up? But when Muslims attack others, they say nothing?

"Here's a suggestion. If you don't want to catch AIDS, then keep your f---ing dick in your pants".

The indepth understanding of societal problems by these mental midgets is astounding !

8th Grade health class students know more about the topic than you, which leads me to believe that you didn't get that far in school.

GED classes are available at your local HS.
Grammar School make up classes are available at....
Sorry you're plumb out of luck.

Ralph has to lay off those Sean Hannity talking points.
It's making him look as dumb as Blockhead Hannity.

Ralph, the premise of your question is totally inaccurate and only a figment of your imagination.

You a--holes keep spouting off the same garbage so often about liberals that you convince yourself it's true.

As I said last night. We're not going to take your lies any longer.
Going to counter them right up to election day in 08'.

Go f--- yourselves, or come back with some reasonable questions that deal with reality, and not your made up reality.

Well how come when Israel was fighting Hizballah, the media sides with Hizballah. They made a big deal when Israel struck civilians, but stayed silent when Hizballah hit Israeli cities?

In the 90's the Left made a big deal when the Serbs were defending their territories from Muslism aggression, but stayed silent when Sudanese Muslims killed 2 Million South Sudanese Christians?.

The Left is Pro-Muslim as it's one religion that the Left never attacks.

You just made my point.

The Left bashes Catholics and Evangelical Christians. Yet they never bash Islam. I have never see a prominent Leftist attack Islam. Why is it. Explain the Left's fascination with Islam?

I wish we had a politician like this guy in America!

Populist politician blasts Koran, MohammedFrom correspondents in Amsterdam, Holland

February 14, 2007 02:00am
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DUTCH anti-immigration politician Geert Wilders was quoted as urging Muslims to dump half the Koran and saying he would chase the Prophet Mohammed out of the country if he was alive today.

"Islam is a violent religion. If Mohammed lived here today I could imagine chasing him out of the country tarred and feathered as an extremist," Mr Wilders told De Pers daily in an interview.

Mr Wilders, who is seen as an heir to murdered populist Pim Fortuyn and whose new party won nine seats out of the 150 in Parliament in November elections, has warned of a "tsunami of Islamisation" in a country home to one million Muslims.

"I know that we're not going to have a Muslim majority in the next couple of decades, but it is growing," he said.

"You no longer feel that you're living in your own country. There is a battle under way and we must defend ourselves. There will soon be more mosques than churches here."

Mr Wilders, who has lived under heavy guard since 2004 when a Dutch-Moroccan killed filmmaker and Islam critic Theo van Gogh, has campaigned to ban the Muslim burqa veil, wants to freeze immigration and ban new mosques and religious schools.

"If Muslims want to stay here they must tear out half of the Koran and throw it away. They shouldn't listen to the imam. I've read the Koran ... and I know that there are enough awful things in it," he said.

Maverick politician Fortuyn broke taboos with his criticism of Muslim immigrants in the Netherlands and his pronouncements that the country could not absorb anymore foreigners.

He was gunned down in 2002 by animal rights activists just days before an election which saw huge popular support for his party.

Nasr Joemann, secretary for the Contact Organisation for Muslims and Government, said he planned to raise the demonisation of Islam with the new Dutch cabinet, expected to be finalised in the next week after months of coalition talks.

"I don't think this sort of comment from a member of parliament is good for integration or for relations between Muslims and non-Muslims but we don't want to react to the content because we cannot take it seriously," he said.

The Left bashes Catholics and Evangelical Christians. Yet they never bash Islam. I have never see a prominent Leftist attack Islam. Why is it. Explain the Left's fascination with Islam?

Posted by: Ralph at February 18, 2007 2:21 PM

Ok Ralph, err ahh... I mean Redwolf,

First of all you have asked this question dozens of times already and have been given concise logical answers to it. Yet you continue to ask it those who you want to play pretend games with.

First of all don't even try to put the Klu Klux Klan evangelical Christians in the same basket as the Catholics. Who in the hell bashes the Catholics? Oh yea that would be the Klu Klux Klan.

Islam is not working in this country on a daily basis to stack the higher courts with Evangelical pimped Republican appointees to higher courts that will reinterpret the constitution or out right tear it up so this nation can become like Iran - a f---ing theo-fascist state! Second of all their is no need to add to the 24-7 cable-news drumbeat of the evils of Islam - Fox - CNN and MSNBC have that covered. You tell me the last time you saw anything remotely hinting at the human side of people in the Muslim world on any of our cablenews or broadcast news. I have never once seen this on our TV and I have about 100 channels on my cable.

Try this out for example for what I am talking about. Granted it is a little cheesy but it was produced by some one sitting at home with a computer not by any television station or cable outlet.

If only you were a real person of Christ you would not have to have you arm twisted to acknowledge that every person of middle eastern decent is 100% equal to your KKK lilly white coward ass!

http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

Ralphisms:

- "The media sides with Hizballah": Only in your mind.
- "They stayed silent when Hizballah hit Israeli cities": Only in our mind.
- "The left bashes Catholics and Evangelical Christians": Only in your mind.
- "they never bash Islam": Only in your mind.

Ralph, do you you know who 'bashes' Catholics more than anyone out there? Evangelical Christians - thats who!

Ralph:

You are more than a bit ignorant.

I am Catholic, one of the dreadful Mass every Sunday and twice during the week, no meat on Friday, ashen-smeared on Ash Wednesday types.

I am Liberal. Very Liberal. I am not alone in my Parish. In fact, I rather imagine I am in the distinct majority.

I don't bash Islam because it is one of many ways in which men and women reach out to their God.

For the same reason, I don't bash Evangelical Christians.

Doctrinally, Mormons and Adventists are cultists, but we as Catholics are taught to accept even members of these sects and respect their efforts to reach out to God.

Now, when a Fundamentalist enters the room, my antennae go up, and I don't care whether the Fundamentalist is Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Islamic or others. All people who see black and white, only, and not the rich hues in the world God has created have the potential to be dangerous.

You can't take a complex formula and reduce it to simple arithmetic. I think that his where the Fundamentalists, throughout the world, and the Republicans and Conservatives in the United States have gotten themselves and us in trouble.

My advice is do not fear complexity. There is difficulty, but there is great beauty and wisdom as well.

"Islam is not working in this country on a daily basis to stack the higher courts with Evangelical pimped Republican appointees to higher courts that will reinterpret the constitution or out right tear it up so this nation can become like Iran - a f---ing theo-fascist state!"

Yep they just form sleeper cells in the hopes of running planes into the world trade center.

What proof do you have that any strict constructionist appointed to the court has made us fascist? Oh ya. None.

I have proof that radical Islam wants to kill us. Oh ya. The World Trade Center, twice.

Oh ya, I am an atheist you stereotyping, prejudiced, hyperbole spouting a--hole. Not very tolerant of you you f---in' hypocrite.

"Islam is a violent religion. If Mohammed lived here today I could imagine chasing him out of the country tarred and feathered as an extremist," Mr Wilders told De Pers daily in an interview."

- The Bush family has been in bed with the Saudi royal family for decades. The Saudi royal family has been the chief financier of the madrassa schools who brain wash young Muslims to hate the west.

There are nearly a billion Muslims in this world and the influence of hatred they have for the west comes from three things - poverty combined with western support for dictatorships who butcher any and all political adversaries who fight for the poor, ignorance spread through religion in the east as well as the west (evangelicals and islamists), and military industrial contractors who profit from war.

You qualify as a forth catogory - white trash spawn of the Klan!

When those jets hit the World Trade Center on 9/11, 2001, it did indeed "change everything", in ways I would never have imagined.

In addition to the actual damage and loss of life this tragedy created, it robbed a large group of Americans the ability to reason and keep things in their proper perspective.

It created a a large group of Americans obsessed with Islamic fundementalism to the extent that they have completely lost their abilty to see the world as it is, and to understand that Islamic Fundamentalism is but one of the many dangers that America faces from this day forward.

Yes, the biggest tragedy of 911 may be that it took away our perspective, and caused us to lash out in ways that are self destructive to us, and the world.

I suspect that was one of Bin Laden's goals.

The hatred of the West by Muslims comes from:
Their inability to take responsibility
The constant barage of propaganda telling them that the West is the cause of their issues.
Their ignorance
Their strange belief that the afterlife is better than their current lives and that struggle and strife and martyrdom is their ticket to heave.

Quick....what's the last contribution a Muslim has made to the world? tick tock tick tock........

Grow up you self-loathing dumbsh-t. Not everything is the fault of America.

You Leftist prove my point. The Left defends Islam no matter what!
Great Thanks.

"You qualify as a forth catogory - white trash spawn of the Klan!"

I'm Italian-Argentine/Cuban you fool!

woogy, go back and re-read your post, you didn't answer my question, you said the dems cutting funds and pulling our troops in nam didn't cause the cambodian slaughter-fest, WHAT DID? I ask, again.

Good commentary and analysis on Olbermann. Let them know how you feel:

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/changing_channels/2007/02/be_sure_to_send.html

The Khmer Rouge cause "the cambodian slaughter-fest", Jeff old buddy, the CAMBODIAN Khmer rouge caused the genocide.

Cambodia is not Vietnam.

I love how the "very liberal" say things like "do not fear complexity" as if they have some grasp of logic or pragmatism that we don't. Here are some words of advice. Be consistent and don't hide behind nuance to shield your hypocrisy. Nothing funnier than the woefully uninformed and illogical acting like an elitist. Thanks Barbara Streisand.

Oh ya, I am an atheist you stereotyping, prejudiced, hyperbole spouting a--hole. Not very tolerant of you you f---in' hypocrite.

Posted by: ??? at February 18, 2007 2:40 PM
Rico is that you or are you Redwolf?

Always quoting Fox Noise propaganda. The WTC was allowed to be bombed. The neo-cons new all along that these guys were planning it and they let them. As for sleeper cells hiding under your bed... I can't imagine one hundred years of this would equal one week of death and destruction we have brought on Iraq. You are as always a f---ing coward chomping at the bit for an excuse to justify prejudice and hatred - this is the product of hundreds of years of Klan mentality. Evangelical babble spewing the mantra of - "we are not the evil ones, we are the holy chosen children of God."

No you are not, you are an uneducated hick who lives in fear. Fear generated by ignorance. 100 years of segregation in the bible belt was the icing on the cake of 400 years of slavery.

Now we have a kulture in the south that props up the evangelicals spouting out their denials of the evils their fore fathers handed down to them. The sins of the father weigh heavy on your shoulders. So do you ease your burden and lesson you propagation of hate or do you do as your father before you and cling to ignorance and cowardice?

You are a f---ing pussy who would never stand up and speak out for justice for the victims of hatred. Instead you fan the flames and warm your cold empty heart with hate for people who are foreign to you.

Produced by a real conservative - this is not an Alex Jones product. Watch it to the end then come back and tell me I am full of sh-t!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6708190071483512003&q=genre%3Adocume

Yopu are full of sh-t, Buffalo. Go back to your wife who's your sister! Hey did you buy a 12 pack with your food stamps! Hey don't you have to clean the trailer today?

The following statement is a fact.

"Their (Muslims) strange belief that the afterlife is better than their current lives and that struggle and strife and martyrdom is their ticket to heaven."

How is any of that intolerant or racist?

Dude if you think the WTC was allowed to be bombed you are a f---ing nutbag and should be put down. Don't worry Natural Selection has your number and you are very close to the front of the line.

"I love how the "very liberal" say things like "do not fear complexity" as if they have some grasp of logic or pragmatism that we don't. Here are some words of advice. Be consistent and don't hide behind nuance to shield your hypocrisy. Nothing funnier than the woefully uninformed and illogical acting like an elitist. Thanks Barbara Streisand.

Posted by: ??? at February 18, 2007 3:03 PM"

I love how some people come here and think they can speak with eloquent words to a--holes like Redwolf and get a reciprocation. Being a "liberal Catholic" who is above name calling will get you no where with the spawn of the KluKluxKlan.

I have to agree with Redwolf on this one Hans, I almost wanted to vomit when I read your piece where you thought you could be civil with scum like Redwolf and think this would gain you his respect.

I am not Redwolf dumbass, but enjoy tooling you around all the same.

Buffalo,
Expain your obsession with Redwolf?

Hey Buffalo,
Since when the Klan allows Latin Americans to join?
Care to explain?

???,
What's this guy's obsession with Redwolf. I've read some of Redwolf'sd posts and he seems like some Rightwing Miami-Cuban radical. I don't get the Klan connection, when Redwolf said he's Hispanic?
I guess in the Left's twisted mind there aren't Rightwing Hispanics. I guess they've never been to Florida!

Dude if you think the WTC was allowed to be bombed you are a f---ing nutbag and should be put down. Don't worry Natural Selection has your number and you are very close to the front of the line.

Posted by: ??? at February 18, 2007 3:11 PM

I dare you to watch the entire film. Just this once see if you can be something other than a dumb a--hole. Watch the clip to the end and then come back to here tell us what you think.

I dare you.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6708190071483512003&q=genre%3Adocume

As always the Left defending Islam. The Muslims are a peaceful bunch they didn't do it. Right Buffalo?

As always the Left defending Islam. The Muslims are a peaceful bunch they didn't do it. Right Buffalo?

Buffalo,
Your a delusion paranoid Inbred white trash. Go out and get laid by someone who's not your sister. Loser!

???,
What's this guy's obsession with Redwolf. I've read some of Redwolf'sd posts and he seems like some Rightwing Miami-Cuban radical. I don't get the Klan connection, when Redwolf said he's Hispanic?
I guess in the Left's twisted mind there aren't Rightwing Hispanics. I guess they've never been to Florida!

Posted by: The Joker at February 18, 2007 3:21 PM

Rico to Redwolf do you read me???

Hey Buffalo,
Since when the Klan allows Latin Americans to join?
Care to explain?

Posted by: Ralph at February 18, 2007 3:18 PM

An addmision to who you are?

Oh well since you double dog dared me to watch it. I guess in loon logic that means I must. Go f--- yourself, and I am not reading Mein Kampf either. Hell you can't even think up your own conspiracy theories.

It's funny how extreme right wing posters such as Ralph, and ??? seem to always confuse "defending Islam" with not bashing them hard enough, or simply not allowing yourself to become obsessed with radical Islamists.

There is a huge difference!

Ralph, and ???

that would be Rico and Redwolf hiding who they are

Buffalo,
I guess redwolf is the only Hispanic who's on the Right? What's ypu obssesion with him?

I'm out of here for the day. Once again the Left bashes Evangelicals, Catholics, Israeli-Jews but never Islam!
Great thanks for proving my point!
Good night and Good luck!

???:

I am not a believer in the 911 conspiracy theories myself, but your being afraid to expose yourself to controversial ideas does help show why you remain so indoctrinated, AND close minded.

I guess redwolf is the only Hispanic who's on the Right? What's ypu obssesion with him?

Posted by: Ralph at February 18, 2007 3:29 PM

How long are you going to milk this "Hispanic" identity thing you hide behind Rico?

Ralph reiterates the illogical world of indoctrination they live in. It conforts and consoles them while every piece of information to the contrary is viewed as a threat.

After having his arguments completely dismantled in the last hour or so, he just responds by dismissing himself and making the same tired 'points' he made earlier that have just been soundly discredited.

Now, he's now going to need another three hour dose of Hannity or Limbaugh, or maybe even Savage in order to boost his confidence back up so he can start blaming all the problems of America, and the world on the 'leftists' and the 'liberals' once again.

Below is a link to a video of Congressman Sam Johnson, who was the last Republican to speak against the anti-surge movement. Ignore the source of the clip; it is irrelevant because it is a video of what happened on the floor. Just listen to Congressman Johnson, who speaks with such dignity. I don't know how you can equate this man with the labels often placed on those in support of the surge, no matter what your view of the issue is. Not every Republican is a scumbag.

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/016816.php

The clip of Congressman Johnson is especially meant for Sir Loin, who gave a play by play so often on the debate. Johnson, like McCain, spent many years as a P.O.W. in Vietnam.

Cee,
Now you have another fake quote to use in your arguments. You have the Madison quote about our government being founded on the 10 Commandments, the other quotes from David Barton concerning church/state separation, the fake churche services being conducted in every room in every building in the government, and now a fake Lincoln quote. I have some more fake quotes you can use.
Jefferson: "Every law is void if not directly from Jesus' lips."
Madison: "Jesus personally wrote the Constitution."

They aren't anymore ridiculous than the other fake quotes you use and you're dumb enough to believe them.

Sharon:

Not many of us believe "every Republican is a scumbag". We do believe they are misguided, and are just prolonging the inevitable, at the cost of many more lives.

To me, it is unethical and immoral of us to sit back in safety and comfort over here, while we use other peoples lives over there, when the trend has been overwhelmingly against us for so long, and most experts think the possiblity of 'victory', whatever that might be, has become slim at best.

I was just talking yesterday to a recent returnee from Iraq who is seating going back again. I asked him specifically if what many on the right are saying is true; That we are only getting the 'bad' news from the media, while all the 'good' news is being ignored. His answer was a resounding 'no'. We are getting the 'bad' news, because most of what is happening is 'bad'. I then asked him if he thinks we have much of a shot. His answer was 'no', and that we should just pull the troops out.

I only mentioned this because I keep hearing from those on the right citing what the 'troops' think, but they always ignor the reality that the 'troops' are just like the rest of us - they have MANY differing opinions and there is no consensus among them as to what "supporting the troops" actually means.

From day one of the insurgency, we have been playing a game of "whack a mole" in Iraq; Drive them out of one area and they show up somewhere else. From day one, it has been acknowledged by most in the 'know' that they only way for us to stop doing that would be to have MANY, MANY more relable and capable troops.

Does anyone see this simple reality changing, even if the 'surge' were to succeed in creating more temporary stability in Baghdad itself?

Not every Republican is a scumbag.

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Exactly, only the ones who pimp Jesus for votes and whore for more corporate dollars than the usual amount all politicians do.

Nothing is more despicable than the Tom Delays and Bill Frists of this world. A complete Klu Klux Klan Khristian voting base carved out of gerrymandering the black vote out in the south.

John McCain comes from a long line of military men and is good guy all around, but who do the evangelicals vote into office? A dumb a--hole like Bush. Then when the guy bankrupts this nation and sends our boys off to die for oil companies bottom line, do these same holier-than-thou bible belters repent? Not on your life.

Just as they will never acknowledge to Kultural significance of being the spawn of slave traders they will never admit that Bush was a huge mistake and McCain would have been a far better leader.

Karl Rove ran McCain's good name into the mud in South Carolina in the first election and the spawn of the Klan voters sucked it up - hook line and sinker!

I noticed the posts about 9/11 conspiracy theories and had to comment. Most people assume they're all leftist theories. http://www.rutherford.org/Oldspeak/Articles/Interviews/oldspeak-Griffin.html

I noticed the posts about 9/11 conspiracy theories and had to comment. Most people assume they're all leftist theories. http://www.rutherford.org/Oldspeak/Articles/Interviews/oldspeak-Griffin.html

Posted by: Colbert at February 18, 2007 4:34 PM

That is because nearly all the socalled rightwingers here a faking posers who wouldn't know a real conservative if he had to.

This page is for Fox Noise groupies who used to feel like they were someone by sending money to Jimmi Swaggart or Ted Haggard.

Woogy,
How was my points dismantled. You Lefties came to the defence of Jihadis again. What about the attcks on Thailand?
The fact is I've exposed the Left's support of Islamic cause. Re read my posts and explain how Buffalo dismantled my arguments? He validated my arguments by defending Muslims and calling me Klansman and posting a link to stupid conspiracy theories.. He did not address any of my points.
Do you care to Woogy?

Ralph,
The Left is more afraid of Evangelical Christians and Catholics then they are of Muslims. If the Bosnian who shot up the Mall in Utah was Christian, the Leftwing Media would be harping about it all day. Because he's a Bosnian Jihadi he gets a pass! We should've let his family stay in Bosnia. The Serbs knew what they were doing. If the Serbs had killed his family, 5 Americans wouldn't have died!
You see the RadicAL left, not Liberals use Marxist group think. They were brainwashed from a young age to think of Muslims as poor 3rd worlders being oopressed by evil Christians. If a Muslim shooter kills Christians, that's ok. But if a Christian went into a mosque and shot Muslims, You wouldn't hear the end of it.
In their twisted idoctrinated minds, Christians are bad Muslims are good. Look at how sensitive they got when you point out their defense of Islam.

Joker,
You are a racist. How dare you criticize Islam. It's a peaceful Religion that our invasion of Iraq caused to make them violent. Muslims have never attacked their neighbors. Muhhamed was a peacful man and all Muslims emulate his peaceful teachings. Muslims are attacking Thailand because they're mad about Iraq. It's Bush's fault Thailand is getting what they deserve!

How dare you insult Muslims! You racist.

Posted by: The Decider at February 18, 2007 2:14 PM

Well how come when Israel was fighting Hizballah, the media sides with Hizballah.

First off,Logics 101 will tell you that your point is moot with your generalization of the media.
The media is multidimentional with straight news and pundits giving their opinions.
And your presumptions are partly truth, partly fiction as most grand sweeping statements people like you make.

"The Left bashes Catholics and Evangelical Christians."

Again a generalization.
I'm liberal and catholic. Do I bash myself ?
The priests and higher ups scandal was horrific.Is that bashing Catholics?
Evangelical Christians are now one of the stronger supporters of a clean environment and working on global warming.
A big thumbs up to them on these issues !

Also, it's spelled Hezbollah, and your inability to spell the word parallels your understanding of them.

I always found 9/11 conspiracies rather amusing.
This was a very well organized hit that was made with precision .
Now, does that sound like the Bush Administration is competent enough to pull off something like that?
Nuff said !

It's actually correctly spelled Hizbollah. Dumbsh-t.

Ralph:

None of your posts say a thing! They are nothing but a collection of attacks on 'liberals' and 'leftists' questioning why they 'defend' and support 'Islamists', which they emphatically do NOT do (except in your own mind).

I have certainly NEVER come to the "defense of Jihadists', and as long a you people keep spouting that nonsense, you have NO credibility and your arguments sound shrill.

What I HAVE been saying is that we OVERATE the threat of these jihadists to the point that we have further endangered ourselves by overeaction to a this paricular threat, which is only one among many things that can and will endanger our future. Our overall reaction to 911 has done nothing but play right into the hands of the jihadists. Giving them undue attention and overstating their danger to us is EXACTLY what they crave the most, and you people on the right have given them exactly what they want in spades.

As for the attacks in Thailand, You've got to be kidding! What the hell does that have to do with it? Yes, we know there are a lot of diaffected 'jihadists' around the world. These radicals have been there for a long time, and our own actions have done nothing but motivate and embolden them further, however they could ONLY bring us down if we let them with our own overreactions, or our own stupidity.

Decider,
It's Hizb'Allah! That's it's correct spelling using a straight Arabic to English translation. It stands for The Party of Allah. There's nothing to understand about them, they're Fascists who have american blood on their hands.

"The priests and higher ups scandal was horrific.Is that bashing Catholics?"
I agree it was horrible but why no outrage over Muslim Imans that marry 12 year olds and have sex with young boys?

"Evangelical Christians are now one of the stronger supporters of a clean environment and working on global warming.
A big thumbs up to them on these issues !"
Agree, I'm Pro-Enviornment too. We should get off oil and switch to Bio-fuels. That way Venezuela, Saudi Arabia and Iran's economy collapses and that will cripple terrorists. I rather the money goes to American farmers than Mullahs that have sex with 12 year old boys and girls!

The radical right is much more dangerous than the Islamo-fascists. They are killing people all over the world, with all their money they give to the poor and fighting disease. Don't you that this is actually a designed plot by the Evil Master, Dick Cheney, to control and radicalize and indoctrinate all the world. They want to convert you or kill you. This whole 9/11 thing was just act fear mongering act done by the Evil Master to engender sympathy, but I see through your lies Dicky. I know what you are up to.

Woogy,
You are defending them.
"These radicals have been there for a long time, and our own actions have done nothing but motivate and embolden them further, however they could ONLY bring us down if we let them with our own overreactions, or our own stupidity. "

What does the Jihad against the Thais have to do with us? Nothing. Islam is an expansionist religion that can't live in peace with it's neighbors. Read the History of Islamic Imperialism and then we'll talk.
We have to take the Jihadist threat serious. Their goal is the establishment of an Islamic one world state. If you aske me we haven't reacted to them strong enough. They have Leftwing Defenders like you who will stick up for them and justify their aggression. As always blame America 1st!
Great Thanks.
Goodmight and good luck.
I'm out of here. Talking with an Indoctrinated Leftists is like arguing with a Muslim. You get no where.

Ralph:

The problem with people like you is that you oversimplify everything, and separate all you see into good vs bad, evil vs good, & black vs white, or us vs them. However, the world is far too complicated for that, and we continue do that at our own peril.

I know people have told you that a hundred times, but you still won't see it for yourself, and I am realistic enough to know that I'm not going to convince you on this blog either, but what I say is true.

If you continue to insist on looking at the world in such simplistic "good guys vs bad guys" terms, you will continue to rob yourself of your ability see the truth, the real dangers, OR the solutions in a very complex world.

More news about the religion of peace!

Lebanon's fears after bus blasts
By Martin Patience
BBC News, Ain Aalaq, Lebanon

Beyond the yellow police tape in the small mountainous village of Ain Aalaq stand two white marquee-style tents sheltering the metal carcasses of two bombed buses.
The two explosions killed three people commuting to Beirut, about 50km (31 miles) from this Christian heartland.

It was the latest attack in a long line of political assassinations and violence that has rocked Lebanon since the killing of former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri two years ago in a massive car bomb.

But what was different about this bombing was that it was designed to randomly target civilians and possibly stir up communal strife.

'Iraqisation'

"At first, the bombings were against politicians and journalists," said Aziz Shyr, 38, sipping coffee with a friend outside a TV repair shop, just metres from the scene of the two explosions.

I don't think we're close to a civil war. But if you keep slapping a person or community then they will eventually react - and that's a big worry
Karim Makdisi, American University in Beirut

"But now they have started planting bombs on buses which is a really dangerous step."

One prominent Lebanese newspaper even went as far as saying the attack was the beginning of the "Iraqisation" of the country.

Since the death of Mr Hariri, Lebanon has been polarised into two main political camps - the anti-Syrian factions that support the current government and the opposition led by Hezbollah.

But the sectarian breakdown is more complex.

Generally speaking, the Shia Muslims support Hezbollah, while Sunni Muslims and the Druze are firmly behind the government. The Christian community straddles both camps.

Government supporters accuse the opposition and Syria of being behind the spate of bombings and assassinations.

'Political attack'

But within the Christian community there is a growing feeling - particularly after the bus bombings - that they are being singled out for sectarian attacks.

"We are concerned that this might happen a lot," said Salim Rashid, 47, a resident of Ain Aalaq.

In a country that was wracked by 15 years of civil war, this is a worrying development.

Prominent Lebanese columnist Rami Khouri said that the bus bombings were a "painful remainder" of the civil war, which was triggered by an attack on a bus and which often broke along sectarian lines.

Yet some commentators view the bus bombings as a non-sectarian but political attack.

Dr Paul Salem, director of the Middle East Carnegie Centre in Beirut, said that if the bombings had been designed to spark serious sectarian violence, the Christians would not have been the obvious choice.

"The big sectarian spilt right now in Lebanon is between the Sunni and Shia Muslims," he said.

"If there was an incident like the bus bombings against either of the communities it would have been far more serious."

'Answers needed'

One of the major problems with the bombings and assassinations in the last two years is that no-one has claimed responsibility or been charged with carrying out these attacks.

Most of the cases are being investigated by an international tribunal.

But these seemingly open-ended investigations, says Dr Karim Makdisi, a political scientist at the American University in Beirut, lead to growing sectarian tensions even if the attacks were not necessarily carried out for this reason.

"People's perception and reality will start to blur if we don't get answers to these attacks," he said.

"I don't think we're close to a civil war. But if you keep slapping a person or community then they will eventually react - and that's a big worry."

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/middle_east/6369775.stm

Published: 2007/02/16 19:04:56 GMT

© BBC MMVII

Ralph,
Yopu see Muslims aren't that bad. They're just misunderstood. We must understand their anger and reason with them. We shouldn't make fun of them or attack their religion. They are tolerant of other cultures. It doesn't matter wheather they attack other cultures, they do it out of love.
As a Leftists I am proud to call them my friends and I support Iran!

Those who cannot resolve their beliefs with facts always claim nuance. The fact is that Islam does not play well with other religions, but your multicultural indoctrination will not let you accept this fact, so you say we are simplistic or that things are just more complex. The oxymoron of the day is assimilated muslim.

islam is the religion of Peace. We must understand and love them!

???,
You evil Klanman. Islam is a peaceful religion that must be respected. We must accomodate their traditions and give into their demands. We must tolerate their marriages of 12 year old girls and be Multi-Cultural about this. You evil Christians don't understand the peace that is Islam!

You guys are another example of the Klan Kulture.

Ralph:

See, there you go again. I said NOTHING to 'defend' them, except in your simplistic "good guys vs bad guys" mind.

If you think saying "our actions have done nothing but embolden them and motivate them further" is the same as 'defending' them, then it further illustrates your inability to accept and understand reality.

No, dummy, thats not 'defending' these islamist screwballs at all, it is legitimate criticizm of how we choose to confront this threat. Proper analysis of any threat involves understanding the motivations of anyone of anything that threatens you. A large part of ANY battle is attacking the very motivation (and therefore the resolve) of your enemy.

Why is that so hard for people like you to understand?

How dare anyone attack Islam! it shouldn't be allowed!

Woogy,
I agree. We should talk with Iran and Al-Qaeda and see their views. They're a peace loving bunch who are misunderstand. Insulting Islam must be against the law!

Once again.....

Those who cannot resolve their beliefs with facts always claim nuance. The fact is that Islam does not play well with other religions, but your multicultural indoctrination will not let you accept this fact, so you say we are simplistic or that things are just more complex. The oxymoron of the day is assimilated muslim.

The fact that a Muslim Radical killed Theo Van Gogh doesn't matter.
The fact that Muslims burn French cities is ok.
Islam is the relion of Peace!

Too all the righties,
http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/ramadan/islam.html

That would be a page of Bush quotes defending Islam. He even claims it is a "peaceful religion." But how? Your God Bush defends Islam but that would make him a leftist America-hater/terrorist-lover but he's your God so he's a righty terrorist-hater/America-lover. And being a right-winger I need to have a simplistic black/white worldview like a 5-year old does. Nuance and thinking are evil. Oh God. Why can't someone just tell me what to think and never contradict my simplistic thoughts?

???:

I am pretty certain that if YOU had been born in the Middle East and had been raised and taught as a radical Muslem, you would now BE a radical Muslem yourself.

YOU would hate everything you stand for now, and every single belief you have would be pretty much the polar opposite of what you now believe.

It's takes exceptional people to look past your own culture indoctrination and see the nuance, which is always there, and the great people of the world have almost always had the ability to do this. This doesn't mean you have sympathize with and bow to your enemy - on the contrary. But truly understanding your enemy is the key to neutralizing of defeating him, and that is what you people refuse to accept.

And THAT is why we have such a huge problem in Iraq!

Colbert,
How ever said I like Bush! Like a true Lefty defending Muslims. Islam is the achilles of the Radical Left. You guys get very touchy about it. Why?

Woogy and Colbert,
Why did Muslims attack the Byzantine and Persian Empires in the 7th Century.
Why did Muhhamd wipe out an Arabian Jewish tribe?
Why did Muslims invade Spain?
Why did Muslims invade India.
Answer the above please?

To Joker, Fudd, and the other five year olds.

NOBODY really gives a damn WHAT you say. All you are really doing is trying to disrupt this board by posting thrash, and for the most part, everyone ignors you. Your like the pesky little fly that can't really be swatted away, but everyone knows it's nothing but a harmless little fly.

Islam sucks! Muslims should be exterminated Serbian style!

Redwolf,
It's sad you're so ashamed of your pathetic life you had to pretend to be a vet. Unfortunatly you're a gutless coward afraid to debate under one name. I'll answer you anyway.

Let's look at issues. The right hates abortion. The left loves abortion, according to you. The Islamists hate abortion. Gay marriage: the left is fine with it, the right and Islamists hate it. Sexual/pornographic material: the left loves it but the righties and Islamists hate it.
Don't believe me? Listen to one of your own.

"In THE ENEMY AT HOME, bestselling author Dinesh D'souza makes the startling claim that the 9/11 attacks and other terrorist acts around the world can be directly traced to the ideas and attitudes perpetrated by America's cultural left.

D'souza shows that liberals-people like Hillary Clinton, Ted Kennedy, Barney Frank, Bill Moyers, and Michael Moore-are responsible for fostering a culture that angers and repulses not just Muslim countries but also traditional and religious societies around the world. Their outspoken opposition to American foreign policy-including the way the Bush administration is conducting the war on terror-contributes to the growing hostility, encouraging people both at home and abroad to blame America for the problems of the world. He argues that it is not our exercise of freedom that enrages our enemies, but our abuse of that freedom-from the sexual liberty of women to the support of gay marriage, birth control, and no-fault divorce, to the aggressive exportation of our vulgar, licentious popular culture.

The cultural wars at home and the global war on terror are usually viewed as separate problems. In this groundbreaking book, D'souza shows that they are one and the same. It is only by curtailing the left's attacks on religion, family, and traditional values that we can persuade moderate Muslims and others around the world to cooperate with us and begin to shun the extremists in their own countries."

See? Even your fellow righty knows you're on the side of the Islamists and if us lefties would just be like you righties, the Islamists would love us.

I assure you Woogy. You are not exceptional. In fact, you are quite misguided. Everyone understands that these people are indoctrinated, so was the Hitler youth and the Japanese in WWII. We won because we destroyed them. We gave them no hope other than to follow our example. As a result, they are now two leading industrialized and completely peaceful nations. Our only hope is to completely destroy these hate filled madrasas and those who support them. There is no reasoning with lunacy.

Joker,
I could ask why Christians and Jews and every other religion has fought forever over their beliefs. The point is that religion has been the major cause of war. Religions have been used for violence forever. Whether it involved Muslims or not, people have fought over religion. Religion, in general, sucks.

Colbert,

Huh? D'Souza is blaming the libs. What the hell are you talking about?

???,
Have your mommy teach you to read. Look at why he's blaming the left. He's blaming us because we aren't doing what the Islamists want. See? If we just do what bin Laden tells us to (don't have abortions, kill gays, don't make naughty movies/tv, etc.) then he'll leave us alone. He hates our "morally corrupt" secular society just as you righties do. You and he agree completely.

No doubt religion sux, but who are the ones employing terrorism now? Islamists, animal rights activists, eco-terrorists, enviroment nuts. It can certainly be argued that these animal rights nuts and eco-nuts and enviro-nuts are cults in and of themselves.

Colbert,
I'm not Redwolf you idiot. Why are you obbsessed with that guy?
I'm not even a Rightwinger. I'm a moderate Democrat who worries about the rise of Islamo-Fascism. As for that jerk D'souza, he's traitor for blaming fellow Americans for 9/11. The Left's beliefs had nothing to do with 9/11.
The Muslims could care less about abortion or Gays. They hate us because we're not Muslim! Islam has a history of agression against non Muslims. Look it up.
I know it goes against what you were taught, but read about Jihad going back to the 7th Century.
What pisses me off about you Radical Leftists is that when someone criticizes Islam, you guys rush to it's defense. I wish my Party would stand up to the Radical Islamists not kiss up to them.
You Colbert typify the Pro-Islamic attitude of the Radical Left. I support freedom of expression. I support Women's rights! I support Gay Rights! I support freedom of Religion!
Islam doesn't. Therefore as a Democrat I oppose Islam. The Right whether Neocons, Religious Conservatives or Libertarians are my fellow Americans! I will support them over Muslims anyday of the week. I disagree with themn on issues, but I don't hate them like you Radical Lefties do.

If you knew anything about D'Souza, you would know that he is only talking about the left's outright hostility and disdain for religion. You would know this if you actually READ his book. He blames their secular attitude at any cost, and no one wants to kill gays and very very very very few actually want to outlaw abortion. Once again, I am an atheist, I have no religious views what so ever. Only pragmatism.

???,
Would the different militias (the Ruby Ridge people, David Koresh, etc.) and the people attacking abortion clinics and their employees (Eric Randolph and others) fall under Islamists, animal rights activists, eco-terrorists, or environment nuts?

"The point is that religion has been the major cause of war. "

Wrong!
Religious wars only started when Islam began Jihad! Before that wars were about power. Christian Rome/Byzantium fought Zoroastorian Persia, it had nothing with religion but the fact The Persian Shah and Roman Emperors wanted control of the Middle East.
The Mongols didn't conquer in the name of Religion.
The Napoleonic wars ahad nothing to do with religion.
WW1 had nothing to do with religion.
WW2 had nothing to do with religion.
The Cold war had nothing to do with religion.
This war is about Religion. The Muslims want to impose their religion on others. They invented Holy War as a means to spread their cult.
Read some History then come talk to me!

When was the last abortion bombing? The other groups have all attacked within the last month.

"Would the different militias (the Ruby Ridge people, David Koresh, etc.) and the people attacking abortion clinics and their employees (Eric Randolph and others) fall under Islamists, animal rights activists, eco-terrorists, or environment nuts?"

How many died because of those Christian Cultists?
How many have died because of Jihad?
Want to do a comparison?

Millions have died at the hand of Christian Radicals over the last 10 years. They have hijacked planes and rammed it into buildings!

???,
The statement from his publisher and his interviews show he is blaming "the sexual liberty of women to the support of gay marriage, birth control, and no-fault divorce, to the aggressive exportation of our vulgar, licentious popular culture" for our problems. Am I supposed to take your word for it over D'Souza's own words? You understand what he thinks better than he does? Even your claim that he's attacking "the left's outright hostility and disdain for religion," which he also is doing, contradicts your claim that the left loves Islam (a religion). It's time for the Virgins-Until-Marriage Brigade to decide whether the left are secular humanists who hate religion or deeply religious Islamic lovers. The two are mutually exclusive (that means they can't both be true).

Christian terror groups are going around and beheading people!

"It's time for the Virgins-Until-Marriage Brigade to decide whether the left are secular humanists who hate religion or deeply religious Islamic lovers. The two are mutually exclusive (that means they can't both be true). "

The only Religion the Radical Left hates is Christianity. They mock it and make fun of it under the guise of tolerance. If Islam is mocked and insulted you guys get angry and call people who don't like Islam racists! The Left views Islam as allies against Christians. That's why the Radical Left afdmires Iran! The Radical goes bye the enemy is my enemy attitude. The radical Left will defend a Muslim against a Christian any day of the week.

Joker/PorkyPig/Red Wolf,
If you had an argument you wouldn't need to use 10 different names including pretending to be other posters. If you don't want to it known you're actually Redwolf, stop stating verbatim the same ignorant points he did. Why are you obsessed with what happened in the 7th Century anyway? You don't see liberals complaining about the Spanish Inquisition every post. And that happened later.

You are flat out wrong about those wars not being about religion. Hitler targeted the Jews because of their complexion? Your argument is silly. Read some history? Learn what the Holocaust was.

Redwolf,
You're slipping. I thought the left hated Jews too? Remember your Israeli girlfriend I was having sex with who claimed all Israeli's hate American Jews because they're traitors?

???

Well you've got a big problem then, ole buddy, because we are not going to be able to "completely destroy" Islamic fundmentalism no matter how much you sit there in your little fantasy world and dream about doing it.

We can, however, destroy ourslves trying.

And please, spare me the WWII analogies. They are absurd. I could easily give you my own WWII analogies, but you wouldn't like those, so lets don't go there, OK.

"Hitler targeted the Jews because of their complexion?:
hitler targeted jews because of the Aryan Master race theory. It had nothing to do with Religion. It was about Race.

"If you don't want to it known you're actually Redwolf, stop stating verbatim the same ignorant points he did."
Islam is a violent anti Progressive religion. I don't agree with all of Redwolf'd points, but he's right. Islam is a threat to our civilization!
You on the Left don't read history to see what Islam has done over the centuries. Istanbul was once Constantinople! How did that happened? Hmm?

"Why are you obsessed with what happened in the 7th Century anyway?"
Because history is repeating itself. Islam is waking up from it's sleep and wants to expand again. Only America stands in the way of that.
This war began in the 7th century. They themselves say it! It's Leftist ignorance that fails to see that. I'm a History buff and realize what's going on. Your very comments shows your ignorance.

"

You moron I never said the left loved Islam. I have merely pointed out the idiocy in your approach to Islam and that minimizing the threat of Islam is pure lunacy. D'Souza is merely saying that the left fosters and reinforces these nutbags' belief that we are worthy of the tag infidel. He is not saying that those on the right here in America share the same values as those in Islam. Your fear of the religious right compared to those within Islam is simply illogical. Your inability to understand D'Souza's point is astonishing and at the same time frightening.

The Point:
The Left in their altruistic goal for secular humanism is in fact, engendering further hatred of America. In their goal for multiculturalism and tolerance, they are actually alienating more than they are engendering. It's called a paradox, and you will never understand it.

No please Woogy. Please give me some historical anologies of wars in which we were successful. After all, we should learn from history shouldn't we?

Colbert,
I'm not Redwolf. How many times must I repeat that!
Answer me this, why are you obsessed with him?
Did he touch a nerve.

"I thought the left hated Jews too?"
Most Jews support the Radical Left.
The Radical Left is anti-Israel. Not anti -Jewish per say but anti-Israel. What's your point with this? The Radical Left does hate Christians. Look at the Bloggers John Edwards hired. I was dissapointed because I like Edwards and was planning to vote for him. Now I support Bill Richardson. The Bloggers were anti-Christian would you deny this?

???

I think I already said you wouldn't like my WWII analogies and tnat we shouldn't go there, because, trust me, this conversation would go downhill really fast.

Just be assured that I haven't taken all the same lessons you did out of WWII. and I don't see many parallels to Iraq, OR the so called war on 'terror', whatever that actually is?

You want accurate analogies? We'll go to Vietnam to get that!

Joker,
Now we're supposed to take them at their word for everything? That's funny. You people quote bin Laden, your hero, constantly. The funny part is that you fail to quote him when he claims his problem with us is that we're on Islamic soil. He correctly states he hasn't attacked Sweden and other free countries which haven't involved themselves in Arab lands. He correctly points out they've only attacked countries involved in that area. If you're going to quote him and believe everything he says, why not quote and believe that? Then we can get off oil and let them all kill each other. Our oil money allows them to buy the weapons they do. Without that money, they'd have rocks. How exactly do you propose your heroes are going to destroy us? This makes me laugh. Presumably they'd done as much as they could against us. And what have they done? Killed under 4,000 on our soil in how many decades? Geeze. Al Qaeda: Killing As Many Americans As Lightning Strikes. Pants-Pissing Brigade: But Be Afraid, Always Be Very Afraid.

???,
Notice the Radical Left is going out of their way to defend Islam. They just proved Ralph's point!
The Left defends Islam no matter what. See how they come to it's defense?

No Joker (Red Wolf), what it 'proves' it what a simpleton you are!

Woogy,
What's your obsession with Red Wolf. For the one Hundereth time. I"M NOT REDWOLF!
Why do you assume I'm him?
How are my arguments simple. Because I point out history that backs up my view points! As a Democrat, Islam stands for everything I'm against. It's a threat to my world view. That's the difference between us Liberal-Moderates and you radical Leftists. You guys see moral equivalance, when there is none!

Woogy,

You are all talk and have no idea what you are talking about. I take analogies from WWII because it is the last war that we WON. I want to know how we WON. The left's obsession with Vietnam is a clear indication of their own defeatism and innate self-loathing. They are like a gambling addict; they actually don't feel alive unless they have lost. It's sickening. Learn to win damnit. Take examples from winning and use those, not how not to lose. Learn damnit!! Learn!!!

???,
I thought the right didn't care what the rest of the world thinks of us? Don't you remember all the statements attacking the U.N. and Old Europe? And all the peaceniks everywhere? Now you attack the left by claiming we're making people not like us? Can you idiots keep a consistent line of thought two posts in a row? I could not care less what a bunch of religious zealots think. If you're dumb enough to think that any Bible is the word of God and we should live our lives by it, you're too stupid to worry about. You can live your life according to the dictates of your hero, bin Laden. I won't. The right is a threat because you wackos vote and try to run the country. You have the power to destroy our Constitution as Bush now is. The Islamists don't have that power. The right's values are very similar to the Islamists. Read what each say.

"for the hundreth time, I'm not Red Wolf"

Whatever you say Red Wolf!

The mathmatical odds of two different posters bringing up the 7th century to validate their views is astonomically high, and Red Wolf was the only 'other' one to do that.

Colbert,
"He correctly points out they've only attacked countries involved in that area. If you're going to quote him and believe everything he says, why not quote and believe that? "

That's his propaganda points for you Lefties to repeat. Their goal is global domination. They don't attack Sweden because they will once America is defeated?
Why do they cause riots in France?
Why do they threaten Dutch politicians who speak out against them?
Why do they riot over cartoons, when their own newspapers show anti-Christian and anti-Jewish cartoons?
Why do they bomb Thailand?
Why do they attack the Phillipines?

There are other grouops beside Al-Qaeda.
Hizb'Allah also has attacked Americans? remember Khobar towers? They also have killed Maronite Christians.
Why does Hamas attack Palestinian Christians in Bethlehem?
Why do you symapthize with Islamo-Fascists?
Please explain?

"The mathmatical odds of two different posters bringing up the 7th century to validate their views is astonomically high, and Red Wolf was the only 'other' one to do that."

No,
The 7th century is brought up by those who read history and understand the nature of the Islamic enemy. Go to Little Green Footballs and jihadwatch and you'll see plenty of mentions about the 7th century Jihad. It just biothers you when someone brings it up because it shatters your belief that Muslims are innocent victims. Their religion was spread by the sword. That's a fact. You can't even deny that.
Keep thinking I'm Red Wolf. Your paranioa of him makes you look like a fool.
I've read about Jihad. You didn't hence I understand the enemy. You salute them and cheer them on!

Okab Joker you got me!
I do symapthize with Muslims. They hate christians like I do. Therefore the enemy of my enemy is my friend!

Colbert,

It is frightening how dumb you are. The Left is the one that cares what other countries think. It is a PARADOX that what the left is doing is actually increasing the angst of Muslim nations. This is D'Souza's point.

Learn damnit!!! Learn!!!

Colbert,
At least you admitted it. But I still don't understand the logic behind it?

That's right Colbert. We enjoy stoning our women, killing people from another tribe if we are disgraced, and giving up our children for martyrdom.

???

Uh oh, now your getting mad and reverting back to that personal old insult fest, are you?

WWII was a fight against NATIONS - 'damnit'.

WWII was a war of shared scrifices for EVERYONE, not just a few of our bravest folks. Almost everyone sacrificed and contributed in some way.

We are not fighting nations, so there are NO valid analogies to be drawn here. We are 'fighting' an idea, and an idealogy - 'damnit'.

Define 'VICTORY' in Iraq please? Why, because I don't think you CAN give a coherant definition of what 'victory' will look like, or how we get there?

One more thing - you want to 'win' so bad, nut what are YOU personally sacrificing to achieve this illusive 'victory' - 'damnit' - ?

I think the answer is nothing. Your willing to sit back and cheer on the troops to 'win' while they sacrifice many more of their own lives, while you sit back here and talk about 'victory'. I even have heard some on your side who have never even thought about actually serving their country call other's 'cowards'.

Talk about hypocrytical!

Islam is to be tolerated and understood. I'm glad the media is covering up the fact the shooter in Utah was Bosnian Muslim. We don't want to offend Muslims! After all shooting up a Mall and killing yourself is a right of passage in Islamic culture!

"learn damnit!!! learn!!"

Getting a little touchy, arn't we!

"We are not fighting nations, so there are NO valid analogies to be drawn here. We are 'fighting' an idea, and an idealogy - 'damnit'."

What about Iran?

"WWII was a war of shared scrifices for EVERYONE, not just a few of our bravest folks. Almost everyone sacrificed and contributed in some way."

Agreed Bush should've asked all Americans to sacrifice and explain to people the true nature of the enemy.
Not tell people it was their patriotic duty to shop and that Islam is a religion of peace.
I agree with your pont there!

Joker (OK, I can't 'prove' your not Red Wolf): Whoever you are, how about staying ONE character and stop co-opting other poster's names and maybe you will be taken more seriously

Otherwise, have you even noticed that you really are not really involved in any of these debates? Your more like a little fly that keeps buzzing around trying to distract everyone else on here - almost 24 hours a day.

Here's a neocon feeling a little warm and fuzzy today. Don't suppose you Bush haters saw the 60 Minutes piece on Kurdistan. It made me prouder than usual to be even an American... now bring on the hate. Tell me how everyone hates America. Tell me that the war was a TOTAL failure. Tell me how everything Bush has done is 100% wrong. The Kurds would tell you otherwise.

FACT: there are less than 70 US soldiers in the Northern part of the country.

Woogy,
"Joker (OK, I can't 'prove' your not Red Wolf): Whoever you are, how about staying ONE character and stop co-opting other poster's names and maybe you will be taken more seriously"

I'll stop the name jacking. The only problem is I'm not the one using the other Batman charcters. It's actually 4 other guys. I'll email them, but I can't control them.

As for who's Red Wolf, my suspect is Rudy Ramirez.
Anyway. If me and you got into an ideological discussions we would probably agree on most economic and social issues. I'm a Democrat. What pisses me off is the denial on the part of the Radical Left of the threat of Radical Islam.

hey woogy, I agree with your post at 2:55 100%. If Billy Boy Clinton wasn't so busy sexually harasing any woman that crossed his path and kept Sandy "The Burgler" Berger on his leash, 911 would have never happened, you left that part out.

It's like talking to a 10 year old child. Every response requires education.

In WWII we were fighting fascism, we were in Vietnam and Korea fighting the spread of communism. Vietnam, Germany, Japan, Italy etc... were just participants in this fight. We won the war against fascism by crushing it thoroughly. We did not do the same thing in Korea and in Vietnam, and we lost.

Victory would be turning the Middle East into glass and if we could implement a peace through strength model we would, but that only worked with a rational foe, the Soviet Union. Mutual assured destruction only works when your opponent fears destruction. How can you people not discuss things like this? What schools did you go to? f---ing liberals and their f---ing revisionist history have completely f---ed half the country.

Benson,
Expect the hate about to begin. I'm not a Bush fan but he's right on the threat of radical Islam. I too am proud on what has happened in Kurdistan. We gave them a chance and they did something about it. The Shia and Sunnis are savages and we should let them kill each other.

Almighty Joker- It's a set up question. You have to be a real ass to not realize that the ouster of Saddam freed millions of Kurds who were oppressed under his wrath. These people are still huge Bush fans, and even CBS news used the line, "welcome our troops as liberators"

The Great and Powerful OZ (Colbert) questions the reliability of my quotes...

I documented all 4 quotes when I posted them...go look them up here at OW if you want....three are all from liberal rags (NYT, WashPo) but documented none-the-less.

Don't be ashamed of your fellow journey-men OZ!....they are your comrades in thought and deed! Embrace their beliefs and do no be ashamed of their behavior!

Don't give up hope.....I am sure there will be a McGovernesque candidate in '08 for you to support (who will go down in flames BTW)!

OZ....Especially do not be afraid of the spitting incident....I know it is how you really feel about the mercenaries our government employs to do the bidding of evil Bush Co.

I know how these words and those below "cee" just enrage the left here....but I would hope it would make them think about what they really want for the world.

Again....Where's that troop funding resolution? Are your ruling liberal elites going to give in to the funding demands of President Bush....100 MILLION for the war? Where are those aticles of impeachment from your ruling class? Hello?

cee (Curly on vacation)
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

???: "it's like talking to a 10 year old child every response requires education".

Do you REALLY think that you can increase your own perceived educational status by claiming it's the OTHER party that needs education? Apparently you really are that stupid! Every single 'point' you make sounds simplistic to me.

Remember '???' I have actually lived the enire "second half of the twentieth Century". I have actually served my country in the military during wartime. I have actually been made to do nuclear fallout drills during childhood during the cold war. I actually understand the world, and the history period you cited because I lived it.

You sound very much like that 12 year old girl who came to my door the other day trying to 'educate' me as to why I needed to "accept Jesus Christ" and come to her church. Just like you, she REALLY believed that she was the smart one, and I was the one that needed to be educated...and no, I was was not rude to her!

No '???', it's not the 'f---ing' liberals who have "completely f---ed up" the second half of the twentieth century, but it sure as hell is you Neocoms who have "f---ed up" the war on terror by invading and occupying a country that didn't attack us. And we are now FAR weaker for having done such an incredibly stupid thing.

Live with it Neocon - it's TRUE!

Woogy,
" And we are now FAR weaker for having done such an incredibly stupid thing."

We haven't mobilized fully for war like we did in WW2. That was Bush's biggest mistake.

Woogie,

Just now catching up to my request of several hours ago to merely listen to an opposing point of view (not change minds) presented by someone with the kind of standing that should be respected by all. I agree that there are varying degrees of opinion among those serving. I would bet those opinions change based upon circumstances, for instance, if someone very recently lost a good friend. Or if someone very recently experienced a successful mission. There is an ongoing Freedom Journal Iraq news video posted on mypetjawa very regularly. You might find it quite interesting. It is done by soldiers.

??? logic: "WE won the war against Fascism by crushing it thouroughly, we did not do the same thing in Korea and Vietnam, and thats why we lost":

No, 'winning' those two conflicts would have required "crushing communism", wouldn't it? "Crushing Communism" would have required WWIII against the USSR and China, wouldn't it? WWIII would have probably gone nuclear, wouldn't it. Congratulations '???', You've finally stumbled on why we 'lost' those wars. If we had tried to 'win' those wars on YOUR terms, the world may have been a very different place today, and you probably wouldn't be in it now.

Now lets carry this to the next step. YOU want to crush all Islamic Fundmentalism. That is how we win THIS war in your mind. I don't believe your willing to pay the price it would take to do that, nor would you like the aftermath of such a 'crushing'.

QQQ, you don't know one tenth as much as you think you do.

The orange a--hole on network news?Yea----NBC sure has turned far right-not!Oh well---it will be nice to see Olbertan drag down the already falling ratings of Brian Willams.Olberbore did such a great job in keeping his show in a flatline in the ratings--and getting beat day in and day out by O'Reilly all these years.
What realy makes me laugh at the orangetard is his temper tantrum over the fact the O'Reilly not only ignors him, but won't even mention his name.He-he-he---we all know the Orangetard sits in his empty apartment night after night and prays to his Tivo that O'Reilly will mention his name. Keithy would love that valadation, AND IT MUST REALLY PISS OFF HIS FREAKY ORANGED TINTED ASS THAT BILL , AS WELL AS ALL NORAL FEMALES> IGNORES HIM.
It was nice to see Keithy made an ass of himself with his take on Ken Allard.What a putz Olbertard is.No wonder every place this jerk has worked everyone has hated his guts and laughed at him.It's too bad the orange gecko that Keithy is, took over for a stand up guy like Jerry Nachman.
Oh well---MS-LSD ponied up the big bucks for this mental case------I wonder how long till this crack pot pulls what he did at ESPN and wonders off the sanity path again? I hope they have lots of Lithium and prozac on hand-----crazy four eyes is going to need it .
Anyone cacth Laura Ingraham's show the other day? I laughed out loud when she tore the orange putz apart with his crazy camera work designed to portray the orange nut in a dramatic way.I have to wonder----is the orangetard the hole, or just the ass around the hole?

Billy, you are the mental case. Just go back and read that load of drivel you just posted. It sounds just like it was written by a mentally challenged 6th grader.

Sharon:

I heard Rep. Johnson's comments today. I understand he was a former POW, and like McCain, he has my highest respect. I salute him. The hell those POWs went through, I wouldn't wish on anybody.

However, regarding his reference to the effect on moral when funds were cut off in Vietnam, keep in mind that he was both a POW and an officer. This means he was not necessarily in touch with how bad the moral already was with the rank and file 'grunts' in South Vietnam.

That was a different time, and a different war, but I hope that moral never gets as low as it did then. When I left the Air Force, it was considered shamefull for someone to reinlist, because the saying was that "they are only 're-upping' because they can't make it on the outside". Career enlisted men were called 'lifers' in a very disdainfull way. This is all true. I sure wouldn't make anything like that up.

That is what an extended stalemated type of war can do to the moral a good military, and I sincerely hope it doesn't happen again. This is what I have worried about from the beginning, partially because of my personal experiences.

Where are those aticles of impeachment from your ruling class? Hello?
Cee

The unholy Cee either doesn't pay attention to what 's happening in the US or just thinks no one else is.
Nancy Pelosi has emphatically said that there will be no articles of impeachment.( although if there ever was a president who deserved them, it's your boy Chimpy)
She showed true leadership( unlike your pathetic president) and said this Congress will look ahead.
So since the Democrats are not going to pursue it, you continually asking about it makes you look just plain stupid.

"I am sure there will be a McGovernesque candidate in '08 for you to support (who will go down in flames BTW)!"
Just like you never thought the GOp would lose BOTH houses of Congress in Nov.
Your prognostication skills leave much to be desired.
America WILL NOT vote for any candidate who supports this war.Any half bright American knows that. Now check the GOP field of candidates. Not one amoung them that are in tune with the American people !

You also lied AGAIN when you said the "Democrats can't even get a resolution passed in the Senate."Totally ignoring why that was.It was the Republicans stifling it, and you know it.
Fool !

You are one of the least realistic humans walking the face of the earth concerning politics.
You've been wrong about the war since day one, and continue to be wrong.
Cee vs the American people !
That's a good one !

No, more like the idiot Cee out on an island alone with his loser president.
Send out some smoke and maybe a cruise ship will rescue both of you.

Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania ,
I think you need some anger management.

I can't indulge Cee with his arrogant and erroneous ideas any longer.
I always feel so dirty even addressing him.
Kinda like going to an old time carnival barker where you know you're dealing with slime but are tempted to look behind the curtain, even knowing it will just be a woman with a fake beard.
Cee is a fraud,and as the GOP candidates run as far from Bush as they can, a new poll that just came out said unequiveably that the American people" just want the presidency of George Bush to end."
America is counting down the days, until our long national nightmare will be over.

If there is anyone who needs something, it Cee, and he needs some major therapy.
Reality therapy !

Cee will get his reality therapy as will the other morons at this site when a democrat wins in 08'.
I can just hear the moaning already.

Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania ,
What are you so angry about? Have you lost your job or a relative? Calm down and enjoy life. Life is too short to be angry, forget politics. Hey did you see the East defeated the west 153-131.

Redwolf/Joker,
It's interesting that you and the rest of the right claims to know bin Laden's true thoughts. You, and only you, can distinguish between his real thoughts and his propaganda. You sound very close to him. Why is that?

You claim to understand "the enemy" yet most of the experts who are paid to understand these people claim saying "the enemy" is simplistic and ignorant because the separate groups have distinct grievances. They claim the groups are different and can't be understood as a single entity as you do. Maybe you should try to learn something instead of reading what some bozo posts from his mommy's basement.

Colbert,
What are you angry about?

Colbert,
I agree with your post. We need to distinguish between Islamic radical groups. I propose negotiating with these groups and reaching an understanding with them. They all have grievances
that we must understand and maybe resolve.

Body Mechanic is an airhead who has no idea OR concerns of the horrendous conditions in Iraq or how his president has brought disgrace to America.

Plus..There is not an more meaningless and boring game than the NBA all star game.
Basketball purists just laugh at this game.

This imbecile doesn't understand politics nor basketball!

???,
D'Souza's point was that the left is upsetting the terrorists , not all Muslim nations unless he considers them all terrorists. In which case, let's attack your favorite country, Saudi Arabia. The left has been complaining about dismissing our traditional allies such as Germany, France, England, etc. I realize England technically went along but the people certainly weren't for it.

While we're at this, all I ever hear is empty rhetoric from the right. How about quotes and proof that the Democrats/left support the terrorists? You people bring it up constantly yet never quote anyone. It's always "the left loves Islamists." I provided quotes from Bush defending Islam so unless you claim he loves the terrorists you better do better than that with lefties. Let's see how many people on the left you can find quotes from.

The Right,
We're discussing what D'Souza said. He claimed the sexual liberation of women is a problem. Should I quote the leading evangelicals who have made similar claims about women? You aren't stoning them; only trying to keep them subservient to men and in "their rightful place." Should I quote all the dispicable things from the Bible you base your life on?

Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania
What team do you root for? I was just trying to talk with you about a non-Political issue. I really think you need to control your rage.Everthing doesn't revolve around Iraq or Bush. The country is fine. America will always be fine. That's why millions around the world want to come here.
Hey what do you think about Britney Spears cutting her hair?

NBA All Star Game.That's funny.

You want good basketball , you should have watched Duke/Georgia Tech this afternoon.

Al Qaeda "Intact And Strengthening" In Pakistan.

WASHINGTON, Feb. 18 — Senior leaders of Al Qaeda operating from Pakistan have re-established significant control over their once-battered worldwide terror network and over the past year have set up a band of training camps in the tribal regions near the Afghan border, according to American intelligence and counterterrorism officials.

American officials said there was mounting evidence that Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, had been steadily building an operations hub in the mountainous Pakistani tribal area of North Waziristan. Until recently, the Bush administration had described Mr. bin Laden and Mr. Zawahri as detached from their followers and cut off from operational control of Al Qaeda.

GEORGE BUSH'S WAR ON TERROR HAS BEEN A COLOSSSAL FAILURE.
EACH AND EVERY DAY THERE IS MORE EVIDENCE TO THAT FACT !

Colbert,
What are you mad about?

"You want good basketball , you should have watched Duke/Georgia Tech this afternoon."

How was that game and what was the score?

"American officials said there was mounting evidence that Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, had been steadily building an operations hub in the mountainous Pakistani tribal area of North Waziristan. "

This is fear mongering on the part of Bush. Ignore this crap.

Duke won by 9.They are back on track and playing great ball.

The Decider,
This is great news. I hope it gets out and it hurts Bush and the G.O.P. It helps us Democrats so it's a good thing Al-Qaeda is reorganizing!

Penguin still singing that same tired old song.
You don't give a sh-t about the country, you just want to diss Keith.
Tough sh-t.

Decider,
It helps our Party. That's good!

Hey did you see another man is claiming he's Anna Nicole's father. Some Real Estate tycoon from South Carolina. Who's the baby's daddy?
I think it's that Prince of Anhalt character.
Who do you guys think it is?

By EMILY SMITH
US Editor
FEBRUARY 19, 2007

TORMENTED BRITNEY SPEARS has been driven to the brink amid fears she could lose her kids, it was claimed last night.

Sources close to the singer — who bizarrely shaved her head BALD at the weekend — say she is struggling following the breakdown of her marriage to KEVIN FEDERLINE.

And she is terrified her estranged hubby will take sons Sean Preston, one, and five-month-old Jayden James from her.

Lawyers for Kevin, 28, have been portraying Britney as an unfit mother in a bid to help him win custody.

And the 25-year-old star’s erratic behaviour in recent weeks has left pals fearing she is going through an extraordinary public meltdown.

Britney checked into an Antigua rehab clinic last Thursday after hitting rock bottom during a four-day booze bender in New York.

But she stayed less than 24 hours before returning to California, where she briefly visited her sons in Malibu before shaving off her hair, getting tattooed and dashing to a hospital in the early hours and asking for help.

Ex-boyfriend Isaac Cohen told how the Oops I Did It Again star was at breaking point after her agonising marriage break-up last year.

To see Britney's rise and fall

He claimed she was drinking to forget her problems — but was terrified that her children could be taken away.

Cohen said: “Britney’s boys mean everything to her and she worried she might lose them in a custody battle. It was clear she was not over her marriage.

“She’d lie like a rag doll in my arms and say, ‘Why can’t everyone leave me alone?’”

Britney, whose career began as a child star in US TV’s New Mickey Mouse Club, checked herself into rehab after months of hard partying that left friends and family fearing she was spiralling out of control.

She was famously pictured in Los Angeles on a string of drunken nights out with Paris Hilton, wearing no knickers.

At New Year she collapsed in a Las Vegas nightclub after downing champagne and cocktails — but still continued partying with Cohen and a string of dancer pals in LA. Last Friday she was seen sobbing in her limo for ten minutes before she entered Esther’s Haircutting Studio in Tarzana, California, at 6.15pm.

After hairdressers refused her plea to shave off her dark locks, Britney — whose tearstains were visible on her hooded top — grabbed the clippers and did it herself.

Stunned salon owner Esther Tognozzi said: “I tried to talk her out of it, but she said, ‘No I absolutely want it shaved off now.’

“Afterwards she looked in the mirror and said with tears in her eyes, ‘Oh, my God, I shaved it all off. My mom is going to be so upset with me.’” Esther said Britney, who was accompanied by two minders, seemed dazed and distant. She added: “She was just there in body and not really emotionally there.”

Britney, who wore a Star of David from Cohen and whose bared neck revealed a tiny tattoo, left the salon just after 7pm and then drove aimlessly around LA for 40 minutes.

At about 8pm, her car pulled up outside the Body and Soul Tattoo parlour and she rushed inside.

With shaved hair all over her top, she ordered staff to etch a set of pink lips on her wrist and a black, white and pink cross on her lower hip.

Workers said Britney was “screaming and flipping out from the pain”.

Emily Wynne-Hughes, who was in the tattoo shop, said: “After she left, we said to each other, ‘We just saw a huge celebrity on the verge of a nervous breakdown.’

“She basically just said she was tired of having things plugged into her. She didn’t want anybody to touch her.

“She seemed really distraught and disturbed. She was very scatterbrained.

“The whole time, I felt like she wasn’t there — like her body was but her thoughts were somewhere else.

“It was crazy, very surreal. She’s definitely crying out.”

Britney left just before 10pm and returned home. But at about midnight she drove out again — only to return home 20 minutes later.

At about 2am the troubled singer was briefly spotted at the Cedars Sinai Medical Centre in Beverly Hills — wearing a dark wig. Onlookers said she spoke with staff before entering a private room. Sources said she was with a pal and seemed “disturbed”.

But she left after just over an hour and was seen heading home. She has not been seen since.

Britney’s spokeswoman Gina Orr refused to comment last night.

e.smith@the-sun.co.uk

Kid star lost her way

BRITNEY has lived most of her life under the spotlight since the age of ELEVEN.

And her dramatic changes of appearance have long been tell-tales for her public highs and heartaches.

In the slideshow above we show how she has gone from a fresh-faced kid on American TV’s New Mickey Mouse Club to the sad spectacle of today.

So no Britney is having a breakdown. This is sad!

“It was crazy, very surreal. She’s definitely crying out.”

Or, perhaps, just getting out of a recording contract.

Did anyone see this sick cunt Nancy Pelosi smiling like a jackass after she votes on this useless resolution? I'm glad she is having so much fun disgracing our troops. She'll make good video for the terrorists.

Posted by: The Factor at February 16, 2007 11:14 PM

Note the venom towards the gender of the speaker. Very similar venom towards Hilary Clinton you see daily on Fox News. Always a trade mark of white trailer trash hillbillies.

Can you imagine Cecelia or Janet reading this garbage and thinking, "these low lifes are debating on the same side as me!!!"

Janet would most likely approve of it do to the great self hatred she has for herself as a women. She demonstrates it regularly.

But you "Factor", you are a shining example of the pieces of sh-t that post here on the right all the time. Where is Redwolf when you need him?

Nothing like adopting the exact ideals that Sean Hannity has towards women and then repeating it here.

You are garbage "Factor" and fit right in here on the right.

A product of the Evil Khristian Klan Kulture!

"Always a trade mark of white trailer trash hillbillies."

Like you Buffalo!

Nancy Pelosi is probabaly a good f---! I bet she blows Bush off!

Nancy Pelosi is too old for me. I need fresh meet. I'm even getting tired of my 22 year old 3rd cousin. I need me a young fresh 15 year old peace of ass!

Yep Redwolf you shine here like the poster boy you are.

The venom you have for women? It all stems from your relationship with your mother. Too bad she was always turning tricks behind those paper thin trailer walls that separated the your bedroom from the living room!

A culture of trash and you wear it so proudly simply because - yep you guessed it- you really are the real McCoy!

"...venom towards Hilary Clinton you see daily on Fox News. Always a trade mark of white trailer trash hillbillies."

Hilary IS a trailer trash hillbilly... and the idiots in New York elected her to the Senate.

Interesting post M Schultz.

I have to laugh when you hear the simpletons already giving the 08' election to the republicans.
They'd say that if they ran Donald Duck.
Oh that's right, they did the last 2 times.

One MAJOR FACTOR of this upcoming election will be the Bush factor.
The governors ran from Bush and didn't want to be associated with him during the midterms.
It appears that he is going to be a huge hindrance in the nationals too, and not one candidate will ask for his support.

Righties will say," Wonder why" ?

Maybe this is why :

Please tell me what one word best describes your impression of George W. Bush. Tell me just the ONE best word that describes him." That question - asked periodically by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press - is always a polling goldmine. The newest results, just out, do not disappoint. Incompetent comes in first, just as it topped the list in March 2006. But a year ago, Good held the number two spot; this time, it's Arrogant.

The large negativity towards this president is felt or least understood by everyone except maybe Cee, our pontificating vacuous resident in denial !
He's always a hoot.
He reminds me of this senile old man I used to know who insisted that Spiro Agnew would have made a good president.
That's how out of touch Cee is ( and every other Bush apologist at this site.

So the two words that the American people come to when they think of Bush are INCOMPETENT AND ARROGANT.

Ain't it the truth !

"did anyone see Romney on ABC yesterday? I suppose he may be new at all of this, but he lacked both poise and substance."

And your critique lacks substance as well. What precisely is it about Romneys's responses or demeanor caused you reach this conclusion?

"I have to admit, I have never understood the Republican's disillusionment with McCain . . ."

Then you must not know any true conservatives who have any interest in the 2008 presidential campaign, because any one of them can give you a ready answer to this question. McCain's biggest problem is the Gang of 14 deal he cut on judicial nominations which precluded all of President's highly qualified nominees from receiving the up or down vote they deserved, although his convoluted postion on campaign finance reform is unpalatable and his hostility to conservative Christians (his recent token visit to Liberty University notwithstanding) makes it unlikely he will get the votes he needs to capture the primary.

"this group might vote for a Democrat at some point, but I can assure you, they would never vote for a Black or African-American"

Oh, I think if Lynn Swann, Michael Steele, Ken Blackwell, J.C. Watts or Condoleeza Rice ever ran, these folks would gladly vote for any of these folks. It's the policies, stupid.

Oh, I think if Lynn Swann, Michael Steele, Ken Blackwell, J.C. Watts or Condoleeza Rice ever ran, these folks would gladly vote for any of these folks. It's the policies, stupid.

Posted by hank at February 19, 2007 11:20 AM

Swan and Steele couldn't even win in their state, and Hank thinks they could win a presidential election or a republican nomination.

Hank's not too bright!

People would vote for Condi Rice?

I don't think so !

This infamous line of hers will live for eternity ," Who would have thought that people would fly airplanes into buildings! "

( after getting memo that said Middle easterners were practicing flying planes but NOT LANDING, and after the memo" Bin Laden To Strike in America ")

Hank is still unaware of just how badly his party has been damaged with the incompetence and failures of the past 6 years.

Let them have their hope, Bushkill. It will all be sweeter when their hopes are dashed in 08'.
Just like that fool hannity had a countdown until the midterms for months."I can't wait until the republicans hold on to both houses of Congress", said Blockhead Hannity.
"I can't wait "
He even led the intro to his show like that !

Funneeeeeeee !

McCain's biggest problem is the Gang of 14 deal he cut on judicial nominations which precluded all of President's highly qualified nominees from receiving the up or down vote they deserved,
-Hank

Like Harriet Miers ?

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h ah ha ha ha ha h ah ha ha ha

hey Hank. Are the conservatives the party of fiscal responsibility?

Please explain the $10 billion of our tax money lost in Iraq.
Then explain why the republican congress never even investigated.

Then come back and tell us how you're going to win the 08' election .

Great thanks.

Hank's a little overwhelmed at the moment.
He'll be back after his morning dose of Prozak.

Since Hank may not be back, an open request goes out to all RWer's with my question at 11:56 AM

Benson, this post is for you:

While I respect that you don't like Keith Olbermann, your statement on the other "should we shut down Olbermannwatch" thread implying that you could somehow judge KO's show by reading Johnny dollar's biased and insulting 'recaps', instead of actually watching it yourself, just made me shake my head.

That seems akin to someone believing they could stay informed about the world exclusively by listening to the Rush Limbaugh show (and I think some people actually DO believe this).

That is a ridiculous statement if I ever heard one.

I replied on this thread instead of that one out of respect for Dollars request that only the KO hater's respond on that thread.

Woogy, ten billion unaccounted for in a chaotic war zone where cash is the only option for perhaps the majority of expenditues does not seem excessive to me. Other accounting problems can probably be traced better, and should be.

And just to put the circumstances today and the amount in perspective:

"Billions missing from HUD!
"At the time we discontinued our audit work... An additional 242 adjustments totaling about $59.6 billion, were made to adjust fiscal year 1999 activity."
Susan Gaffney
HUD Inspector General
US Dept of Housing
& Urban Development (HUD)
March 22, 2000"

And a little more perspective:

Why Is $59 Billion Missing From HUD? - United States. Department of Housing and Urban Development
Insight on the News, Nov 6, 2000 by Kelly Patricia O'Meara

Billions of dollars are missing from the U.S, Department of Housing and Urban Development's books. Some HUD officials blame computer glitches; others allege widespread graft.

The Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) has earned a failing grade from the House Government Reform subcommittee on Government Management for the way the agency manages taxpayers' money. Subcommittee chairman Stephen Horn, R-Calif., is said to be furious that HUD's most recent financial report shows the agency is unable to balance its checkbook and cannot account for $59 billion.

For most Americans, it is incomprehensible that $59 billion could be missing from the ledger of a single agency. But despite years of earning failing grades -- as well as years of being unable to account for tens of billions of dollars -- the Clinton/Gore management team at HUD has continued to shell out hundreds of millions of dollars to the same contractors hired to ensure financial systems are in place and working. It doesn't take a certified public accountant to see that HUD Secretary Andrew Cuomo's financial house is not in order, and Susan Gaffney, the inspector general (IG) of HUD, tells Insight, "It's more serious than you know."

These are just two examples of missing billions from domestic agencies during the peacetime Clinton administration.

What it says to me is that bureaucracy is always inefficient and very often corrupt.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Woogy, I wanted to mention my sources. I googled US Dept Education missing billions because I remembered the story from the Clinton administration. There are dozens and dozens more such stories.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Janet:

I don't recall making any comments about the missing funds. All I know about this is from the news reports that I have heard or read, and I don't necessarily take everything I read at face value.

Sorry Woogy. I have no idea why I thought it was you. I surely had a brain failure.

I am truly sorry for confusing you with Realist, Bushkill, Bob, Realist and the ubiquitous Chicken Blogger.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

"dozens and dozens of similar reports "

Grammie is an idiot...and a liar.

Grammie thinks $10 billion missing in iraq is not excessive.

Of course not.It's your boys f---ing up.

What a tool !

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Nearly $9 billion of money spent on Iraqi reconstruction is unaccounted for because of inefficiencies and bad management, according to a watchdog report published Sunday.

An inspector general's report said the U.S.-led administration that ran Iraq until June 2004 is unable to account for the funds.

"Severe inefficiencies and poor management" by the Coalition Provisional Authority has left auditors with no guarantee the money was properly used," the report said.

"The CPA did not establish or implement sufficient managerial, financial and contractual controls to ensure that [Development Fund for Iraq] funds were used in a transparent manner," said Stuart W. Bowen Jr., director of the Office of the Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction.

I said that I don't think ten billion unaccounted for in a chaotic war zone is nearly as bad as 59.6 billion unaccounted for by HUD in the 1990s in domestic spending during peacetime.

Or 15 billion unaccounted for by the Education Dept in the 1990s during peacetime.

There is always going to be more difficulty adhering to proper accounting techniques in a war zone.

Thats not to say any amount of it is not theft. There is always theft and corruption in anything a government does. I am not saying that some of is not imcompetent mismangement. There is always imcompetent mismangement of government funds.

I am saying that the fast moving chaos of war will account for some of it. And peacetime domestic accounting should always be superior to accounting in a battle zone. Time will give us some idea of what happened in this instance. We already know what happened in the 1990s.

You appear to be selective in your outrage.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Sorry Woogy. I have no idea why I thought it was you. I surely had a brain failure.

I am truly sorry for confusing you with Realist, Bushkill, Bob, Realist and the ubiquitous Chicken Blogger.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 19, 2007 2:41 PM

Last night "The Factor" referred to Nancy Pelosi as a "cunt".

He and others like Brandon and Redwolf regularly post misogynistic comments. These are you constituents here. Saying you had a brain failure is an understatement. You take pride in being ignorant as though it is a required statement of loyalty to the Republican party.

$9 billion dollars skimmed off a budget that includes cuts in services to our veterans. You call this insignificant merely because you have completely tuned out the significance of our soldiers. As is the usual. You claim to be patriotic while hating a constitutional democracy. You claim to be Christian while defending foreign policy that bombs first and seeks diplomacy later. And you claim to support our troops when really you care more about cult like following practices that holds all you your fake beliefs under the umbrella of being a loyal Republican.

God and country means nothing to people like you. Never admitting wrong doing is everything to cult practice.

Keith Olbermann - American Hero
- Bill O'Lielly American Zero!

Misogynistic comments? You mean like the kind that Keith Olbermann is famous for making?

Well, I am surprised that my earlier post got so many responses by the frothing at the mouth Bush haters and the more restrained Schultz.

Some responses. First, let's deal with deal with this:

"Swan and Steele couldn't even win in their state, and Hank thinks they could win a presidential election or a republican nomination."

You missed the point, dum dum. Schultz was advancing the propostiton that there are no African Americans that a group of Texas Republicans would vote for. I am simply saying that if any of these candidates chose to run, Republicans would vote for any of them. Your statement speaks to factors you believe would impact whether they could WIN or not, which, IS A SEPERATE issue, get it?

," Who would have thought that people would fly airplanes into buildings! "
( after getting memo that said Middle easterners were practicing flying planes but NOT LANDING, and after the memo" Bin Laden To Strike in America ")"

Sorry, Bushkills, that old lefty talking point had been in circulation for awhile and its expiration date has long since passed. I see you don't cite a source or provide a link for this claim. You also provide no context for the alleged receipt of the "memo" by Rice. How specific was the information? How credible was the source that provided the information in this alleged memo? What feasible mechanisms (if any) could have been put in place to prevent 9/11? Could such measures have been put in place by President Bush's predecessor? Sorry Bushkills, you better bring more than that if you expect to be taken seriously.

"McCain's biggest problem is the Gang of 14 deal he cut on judicial nominations which precluded all of President's highly qualified nominees from receiving the up or down vote they deserved,
-Hank

Like Harriet Miers ?
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha h ah ha ha ha ha h ah ha ha ha "

Well, "ha, ha" doesn't constitute much an argument (unless you're the intellectual giant Natalie Maines at the Grammy Awards), but the fact remains that you have not made a cogent argument. I have not heard any reputable legal scholar make the case that Miers was not qualified to be a Supreme Court Justice. Upon what specific grounds do you base your opinion that Miers is not qualified?

"Fact is, among native Texans, when they left the Democratic party, they left due to integration. It is a fact."

Oh and what year was that, Schultz? It may be a fact that SOME Texans left the Democratic Party because of racial considerations, it is NOT a fact that those folks would certainly not vote for an African American in 2008. That is your opinion.

"but Laura remains very popular, and to some extent she is seen as a victim of Bush's bungling neglect."

Schultz, I include this little snippet of yours to make a point. It is obvious you know a little something about politics, and your posts are generally pretty readable, but usually off the mark because of your bull headed allegience to the left wingers. Which is OK, we can all disagree. But, your petty, gossipy, little ad hominem cheap shot implying that the President is not a good husband to his wife is low and more than anything else shows that you are motivated by personal hatred of the President than honest policy disagreements. I thought you were a bit above some of the other lightweights that come here like Bushkills, Proud to be a Liberal and Kissel, but that kind of crap is really silly and Olbermann-like.

"hey Hank. Are the conservatives the party of fiscal responsibility?"

They used to be. Thankfully, Sen. Tom Coburn(R) of Oklahoma still carries the flag of fiscal responsibility. A long time ago Dems were as fiscally responsible as Coburn, but no more. I think that there is a much greater likelihhod that Republicans will return our country to fiscal sanity than Democrats.

Hank's a little overwhelmed at the moment.
He'll be back after his morning dose of Prozak.

No, I was just away for a bit-- I don't hover over the computer all the time. I don't take drugs, either. BTW-- I think you meant Prozac, if you spell it "Prozack" you don't look too bright.

With respect to the Dan Patrick/Olbertool connection, I see that the comments here indicate agreement that Patrick correctly does not endorse Kool Aid Keith's kazoo show. However, last week I heard Patrick pimping,err, plugging Countdown as, and I quote, " The best news program today." After blasting coffee all over the dashboard I desperately changed channels in search of Randi Rhodes to add some reason to the debate...anyone hear this as well???

Hank's not aware of his glorious republican history.
yes Condi did say" Who would have thought that people would fly airplanes into buildings"
Nice try for thinking it's an urban legend or whatever.
The Bush ad. seriously dropped the ball on 9/11 and didn't take the warnings seriously.

You appear to be selective in your outrage.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 19, 2007 4:04 PM

No, you appear to not be able to focus on THIS administration and their incredible examples of corruption and fraud.

Party over country is Grammie's motto.

While our wounded and maimed vets aren't getting the care they need, that $10 billion could be used for them.
But what the hell!
As long as your republicans are doing it.
So what.
You appear to be selective in your outrage.

Time will give us some idea of what happened in this instance
-grammie

The GOP COngress had years to look into this waste.They passed, as they did with all oversight on this war.

"Clarke also tells CBS News Correspondent Lesley Stahl that White House officials were tepid in their response when he urged them months before Sept. 11 to meet to discuss what he saw as a severe threat from al Qaeda."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/03/19/60minutes/main607356.shtml

You know, George Bush was born about 300 miles north of here in the year 1946. As a young man, he was an average student, became a cheerleader and developed a taste for alcohol. As he grew older, he became convinced that he didn't want to go to Vietnam, avoided serving both there and in the Texas Air National Guard and discovered cocaine. At age 32, he ran for Congress and lost. At age 40, he failed in the oil business. At age 43, he bought a baseball team and traded away Sammy Sosa. At age 48, he became the Governor of Texas. At age, 54 the Supreme Court named him President of the United States. And now 60 years old, having waged two losing war efforts that has cost America its moral standing in the world, hundreds of thousands of lives and billions of dollars, he is the obvious and only choice to be the worst President of the United States.