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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    February 22, 2007
    COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN - FEBRUARY 22, 2007

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • BASRA WITHDRAWAL: Richard Wolffe, Newsweek chief White House correspondent and MSNBC political analyst; Col. Jack Jacobs, U.S. Army (ret.) and MSNBC military analyst
    • HILLARY CLINTON VS. BARACK OBAMA: Chris Cillizza, washingtonpost.com

    The opening spiel was bellowed in typical fashion: the Brits are declaring victory and "going home" (even though most troops are not leaving the region--could this be Another Olbermann Lie?); Hillary vs Obama; Britney Spears; Anna Nicole Smith case concludes (described as a "non-decision decision", another Olby snark that just shows how bone-chillingly ignorant he is).

    MADMAN

    #5: Basra isn't ready for transition; Blair lied about it (Blue Blog Source: Think Progress). Brits redeploying could cause more bloodshed in what they leave behind. (Oralmann never makes that point about US troops leaving). The Wolffe Man and Col Jacobs were there to echo OlbySpin. They did. The Army is broke. The Marine Corps is broke. Everything is broke. Bush must be stopped. Great thanks and great thanks. Brief mention of The Great Leak Case, that open-and-shut slam-dunk that is still without a verdict, described by Monkeymann as being all about "how the Bush administration lied".

    #4: The Pakistan border (regurgitated NBC video). Oddball. #3: Dems planning to write some legislation about Iraq that will never be enacted into law, and are fighting over money. Cillizza painted Hillary as the schemer in this one, and Olby claimed it was a victory for her. Surprise. Great thanks.

    #2: Britney Spears, Prince Harry, James Brown. #1: Anna Nicole decision, where Fat Ass repeatedly displayed his ignorance by claiming the judge "passed the buck" and asking "how did he pass the bar?" A short course on Florida law for the slovenly political hack: possession of the remains passes by statute to the next of kin: Anna Nicole's daughter. Because she is not old enough her guardian will handle arrangements and decide where the burial site will be (Bahamas, as it turns out). The judge followed the law, moron. The Court has no authority to itself select the burial site, moron! Sheesh, Olbermahn, you are a moron. In the Media Matters Minute, KO attacked NYU College Republicans (Blue Blog Source: Daily Kos) for their "catch an illegal alien" game.

    OLBY

    Silent schnauzers: Protecting his Tehran buddies, Herr Olbermann ignores this. He never reports news from Iraq that isn't negative. Muslims threaten attacks in Somalia. And Olbermahn still spikes the news of a federal court ruling because it makes him look stupid. Or stupider. Or stupidest. We think it's door #3.

    Olbermann's book The book that bears Olberman's name stands at #3,495 at amazon.com, while "Culture Warrior" is #165. (It's that 2-for-$25 sale!) The OlbyTome is #2,680 at Barnes & Noble; O'Reilly's book is #848 there, and is now in its 20th week on the New York Times bestsellers list. The discredited sports guy came in third on Tuesday, and then came in third again on Wednesday, both in total viewers and in the critical, beloved, all-important, coveted "key demo". Hey Dan Abrams, are you getting your money's worth?


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    ....that the Fox host regularly rants about the "lberal bias" at NBC and started a web campaign to have Olbermann replaced with Phil Donahue. (Rolling Stone)

    You know there is some truth about weed slowing down the thought process. That web campain was about two years ago. Who reads rolling stone these days Beavis and Butthead?

    >>No sooner did we castigate the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann for spiking the Clinton v Obama story, than he bows to the pressure we put on him and schedules the story for the very next day!

    You really think this open sewer of Bush Loyalists influence KO's schedule?

    What's next?

    You gonna have Fox's psychic friends tell us what Keith's body language really meant to say?


    Puck, I doubt most Rolling Stone readers have heard of Olbytoad or will bother to watch his show. They're watching American Idol or The Daily Show. Mostly, they're out doing fun stuff and not watching TV at all.

    " I am in your debt, much as I am in the debt of my 4th grade Etiquette teacher who forever impressed upon me the difference between a shrimp and a gherkin fork. " Posted by: M Schultz at February 22, 2007 6:05 PM

    Just wondering was John Kerry in that class too ?

    ---

    No. Wrong New England priggish preppie presidential candidate. The candidate who lost to Al Gore in 2000 was in that class. Kept sticking shrimp with a gherkin fork and repeating, "Take that you little prick." Started snickering uncontrollably and peed himself. Moved into Metal Shop. I understand the solder fumes turned him into a lunatic.

    How does Olby know that his show is the most DVRed news show on television? Did his buddy TVNewser tell him that? Maybe Keith Anally's magic love beads said it was so.

    olbermann's body language and especially his stupid facial expressions indicate he is totally self absorbed, self worshiping, and continuing the asinine traits of all idiots he takes himself waaay to seriously. olbermann should be the dictionary illustration for the douche bag entry. right between dickhead and dumbass- OK well he could be the illustration of all three.
    hey olber-slime do you actually watch your "preformances"?? I am actually embarassed for you. I guess along with no morals and/or common sense ill-liberal lefties have no shame either.

    Johnny Dollar just can't lose!

    If he predicts KO won't cover a story, and he doesn't...Johhny 'wins' because he was 'right'. However, if Olbermann runs the story against Mr. Dollar's prediction...Johnny 'wins' again because Olbermann "bows to the pressure we put on him".

    Some of us get to have it both ways, and some of us don't.

    KO has a habit of refusing to cover stories if 1-they make Dems look bad or 2-there's good news for Republicans so KO refusing to do the Clinton/Obama story until he can't ignore it or until he can spin it for the left is not so surprising.

    He's definitely wearing a toup. Maybe all that head glue is leaking into his pea-sized brain.

    Olby's was darned near frothing at the mouth over the breaking news about the libnuts' attempt to limit the troop mission. He was ranting about "turning back the clock." I have a feeling that MSNBC wishes it could turn back the clock and reverse its decision to hire this bonehead.

    Mike,

    The Anti-Red Wolf posted the following:

    Keep up the good work Grammie.

    BTW, where do you get your dentures cleaned ?


    Posted by: Jethro at February 22, 2007 1:09 PM


    Wasn't that one a little too much, Mike?

    This is getting shorter every day. Are you finally getting sick of being continuously, and repetitively, wrong?

    Rico, thanks for standing up for a lady against an asinine insult.

    However, Mike is the wrong person to appeal to. Several weeks ago he declared that I am inhuman, as in not capable of his level of compassion.

    Compared to that, the subject of my non existent dentures pales somewhat.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Now wait let me try to get this straight.

    A few days ago Olby and just about everybody in the media was going nuts saying the Brits were pulling out, thats it, going home.

    And before that day, did anybody know that Denmark was there?

    Now their not, Prince Harry is going over, to the front lines with his squad. And not all the Brits are leaving.

    Oh! The spin! The Spin!

    Funniest Line of the day does come from Rolling Stone

    "Keith Olbermann, The Most Honest Man in News"

    So ... there was a segment of Countdown that I was never supposed to see --- Segment three ... I was never supposed to her about Clinton against Obama --- yet --- I saw it --- I am so disillusionate.

    'Disillusinate'? Does that mean disillusioned or delusional

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    You guys are so pathetic. But thank you. Your insights make me feel better about myself, and help me realize just how smart I am.

    Damn that Richard Wofleeee is a cutie. Is that all that KO has on his show as guests is gay white males?

    It means that everybody expected Keith Olbermann to ignore or take sides in the Hillary Clinton/Barrack Obama spat and he did not ...

    You guys suggest Dan Abrams get rid of Keith. Keith is the highest rated program on that network, why get rid of something that works. If anything they should get rid of Tucker, his ratings are currently the lowest.

    Olbermann sided with Hillary. Now we know he's a Clinton hack! Pretty soon Obama, worst person in the world.

    Well ... I am just using this nick-name as a temporary transition from "Olbermann Watch [Us Bicker]". I can not wait to ditch Barrack Obama. He is hanging by a thread in my opinnion. Abraham Lincoln comparrisons, smoking infornt of his children, entering the race despite full qualifications of being the president of this country. Although --- I do like that he has what it took to stand up to FOX News ...

    Obama, give orangy a couple days to decide. He's a little confused, so he's not sure who to back. He's still holding his finger in the air, checking the wind.

    I think that this website checks puts fingers in thee air and try to make judgements --- It is never remotely good when the ditto heads think that they can be the ones in the Attila the Hun chair ---

    I do like that he has what it took to stand up to FOX News
    ********************************************
    How is Obama running like a scared rabbit because he's afraid they might ask him some hard questions and not kiss his butt like MSNBC and the rest of the MSM "standing" up to them?

    What?????

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    You guys were completely wrong in that Keith Olbermann will not mention Clinton vs. Obama silence verdict. I also like how wrong Johnny Dollar was on the Anna Nicole Smith verdict. Johnny $ was wrong in calling Keith Olbermann ignorant. I can not believe that he could not realize the misery that was apparent in the court room when the judge made his ruling.

    Obama, sounds like you got your finger in the air, too. One day you back Hussain, now you say you can't wait to ditch him, I guess "faithful" isn't in your vocab. Or, are you waiting to see Orangy backs to join the herd of sheep.

    mlong: Barrack was the innocent against FOX's brutal slander. You see, he was the victim of theboarding school that he went to being called a "madrassa" being perpetuated by the media. A media that includes Insight magazine and FOX News ---

    "You guys are so pathetic. But thank you. Your insights make me feel better about myself, and help me realize just how smart I am."

    Well, yeah, if you stand next to Mini-me, you might feel tall as well. And this site certainly is a mini-me.

    jeff: I am only completely faithfull to God.

    Oh, and where's the MisterMeter? When the facts don't fit your prejudice, they're just swept aside, sans comment? Is it too embarrassing to put a "zero" there?

    A media that includes Insight magazine
    *************************************
    The same Mag that KO uses when it supports his view then trashes when it doesn't?

    Of course FOX gets the last laugh because it'll host the first Dem debate so Obama WILL have to face questions from them. :)

    Keith works for whatamessNBC
    He slanders Bush, Conservatives & the GOP
    He's clearly delusional
    In the MSM its not that unusual

    He's always crass
    Probably because O'reilly continually kicks his ass.
    No dobut, it drives him up a wall
    That, and the recent evidence that apparently he's quite "small".

    Grammie,

    If somebody were to tell me that I was as compassionate as Mike I would take offense. In a way he was complimenting you.

    Rico, it is a pleasure to have someone put things in perspective as you do.

    Thanks,

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    The most absurd part of the show was when Citizen Keith claimed that the British military was stretched thin and could not handle the troop commitment in two countries.

    This is the same Britain that fought the Germans in World War 2 for a couple of years alone. Is this guy completely and utterly looney?

    Why did Keith Olbermann not do more SPFX on O' Rielly?

    Very lame show, but the judge piece at the end was funny.

    Will we ever hear Habeas Corpus again?
    What happens when Scooter gets acquitted?

    Leave it to NBC news to follow though on a story.

    Al Jazeera @ 30 Rock....Despicable, Deplorable "Journalism"

    Little Feechie: Very lame summary via the dollar. I guess we can not all hit highs every single night. I thought that in terms of constitency, yesterday was not bad at all. I still would like it if RCox chimed in more ... but I guess that is what happens when a website is about to close down ...

    J$ is on his game...When the NBCJazeera mother ship supplies all the news, KO's sugar level drops.

    But seriously Obama, why is KO ignoring the Habeas Corpus ruling? Can you explain this to me like I'm a 6 year old?

    The second we get Habeas Corpus back, I return to the United States of America.

    How many times has KO bellowed about Bush and Habeas Corpus. Isn't his lack of follow-through further proof that he is nothing more than a self-serving hack? This guy make Goebels look like a choir boy.

    Keith Olbermann has no integrity. He is not even worthy of the Conan O' Brien program after Jay Leno. He is going to be on it tonight. I am surprised that got no mention here ---

    C'mon Obama, you seem like a smart guy...why won't KO finish the story on Habeas Corpus?

    What is he afraid of? The truth? Who is Teheran Keith protecting?

    How does Dan Abrams hold his head up with any dignity? NBC has truly lost all sense of reality on MSNBC.

    When will KO's speshul comments get translated into Arabic? Our enemies can use further inspiration. Let's blare KO's rants at Gitmo.

    I said what I said. No integrity. If you want a long answer to a simple question ... go ask Janet Hawkings the question. I am eating ravioli, here !

    Oh, and where's the MisterMeter? When the facts don't fit your prejudice, they're just swept aside, sans comment? Is it too embarrassing to put a "zero" there?

    Posted by: Bill Orally at February 22, 2007 9:56 PM


    Isn't if getting a little past your bed time? Time for mommy to wipe you ass and tuck you in!

    Obama,
    It's apparent Olbermann is a Clinton hack. If some how Hillary gets elected, will Olbermann become White House Press Secretary?

    Little Idiot,
    The soldiers who composed the British military in WWII are mostly dead now. Their military is nowhere close to as strong as they were in WWII. Also, Britain did not fight Germany alone for a couple years during WWII. France fought Germany well into 1940 and Russia fought from 1941 on. During the interim, Germany was fighting other European countries. Are you taking faith-based history in your elementary school?

    OK Rico:

    I saw your post before Janets, and my answer to YOUR post would have been rather simple; No, I don't condone a remark about Janet's 'dentures', I agree it was tasteless, and I never would have made such a remark myself. That said, a lot of remarks get said on this blog I don't condone ... and unfortunely, many of them are from MY side.

    Now about Janet's 'answer'...THIS is a little more complex; First off, I NEVER called her 'inhuman'. However, I did finally say "then yes, I do question your humanity", but only AFTER she insisted on trying to back me into a corner by specifically asking me to judge HER humanity because she feels differently about the war, and the loss of lives of individual soldiers. In short, SHE INSISTED on framing an unneccessary question in such a personal manner.

    This was all in response to my well known very strong personal moral conviction about lives being lost in a war for no apparent reason, that I strongly feel never should have happened. My position on this is well known on this blog, and if somebody is going to INSIST that I either back down from that conviction, or hurt their feelings, then sorry, but their feelings are going to get hurt evey time!

    Rico, I'm pretty sure you have noticed Janet's unfortunate tendency to inject herself personally into debates. I don't know why she insists on doing that, but that is what happened, and that is where that 'inhuman' MISQUOTE came from.

    Keith Olbermann is not a true liberal. He reported Brittney Spears shaving her head as though she had a mental disorder. He does not even get it: Spears shaving her head was her own expression of freedom. If he does not like her choices --- he can go straight to Foxx. They are incredibly bloodthirsty over there.

    Is Olbermann on the Clinton payroll?

    No, the Clinton's are on the Olbermann payroll.

    Keith Olbermann is not a true liberal".

    Viola! You get it! No one else does.

    KO's rants and opinions have pretty much been confined to a strong anti-war position, and a strong stand against expanded executive power.

    Those are not 'liberal' positions.

    MIke,
    Would you describe Olbermann as Pro-Hillary?

    Mike: You have got to admit, though --- He made it seem as though he was Brittney Spears' father, when actually, Brittney Spears is grown up and can do what she herself wants. She does not need Keith Olbermann making her decisions for her and castigating her as though she was a child. She should not have shed a tear for shaving her head after she had to swipe the razor from the salon herself. She should have gotten the proceesure done automatically. Not in our society. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh no ---

    Mike, I'm a girl and its a girl thing.

    Whats your excuse?

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Britney Spears is 25-years old. That makes her several years older than KO's teenage girlfriend, no?

    Joker, I don't really see where KO is necessarilly "pro Hillary. However, just like me, he is certainly pro Democrat at the moment, but I think it has as much to do with Iraq as anything. Hillary is not the best candidate considering her flip-floppery inconsistancy on the war.

    jeff: I am only completely faithfull to God.

    You meant allah, didn't you? obama?

    Grammie,

    That was inhumane! I guess Mike was right about you after all.

    Obama, we have Habeas Corpus in the US, in case you didn't know. How are you going to come back to the US when you can't fly?

    Anyone with a brain knows what is coming next with Olbermann and the Billary and Borat Osama story. He will blame conservatives for blowing the feud out of proportion. Dollars to Donuts.

    Jeff Slander #1: No, I mean the God of Jesus Christ. I know you have been paying too much attention to the news and you have forgotten what the culturally acceptable God is in the United States of America. I suggest you go for a walk and realize which nation that you live in.

    Jeff Slander #2: I do fly. You don't bathe.

    The Factor: Just like right wingers blamed Hillary Clinton for the Maddrasa story on Obama --- Hmmmm --- I am sorry for talking down to you, but frankly, I think I have more precedents to do so to some people on this website since you guys were completely and utterly wrong on saying that Keith Olbermann was not going to cover the Obama/Hillary scuffle in the first place !!!!!

    I never said he wouldn't cover it. I just pointed out how he DIDN'T cover it, the day that it was big news. But 24 hours later, after he has had time to decide on the appropriate spin, and after he has been embarrassed by Olbermann Watch, that's another story.

    When Democrats erupt in a war of words, everybody covers it. Except for our favorite slovenly political hack, protecting his party once again.

    ---------------------------------------------------

    You called Keith Olbermann a "slovenly political hack" for "protecting his party". Apparently, it may not be enough that he did not cover the story the moment that it broke, but that he was deffending his party on the story that he was going to do the next day.

    For shame, but this website is not going to be here on March 2nd, so why even continue quarrelling. We should all be concentrating on getting along and correcting mistakes rather than start new bitter battles that never get sorted out one iota anyaway with the time that we have left together ---

    I didn't say he wasn't going to cover it yesterday; I said as of Wednesday neither he nor his staff had figured out the proper spin on the story, which is why it wasn't covered on Wednesday.

    Today, we see that as of now Keith has decided to come down on Hillary's side, but as opposed to other times he has got to the mat (or in some cases, to the bathtub) for the Clintons, there was no demonizing Barak Obama here (though hearing Keith use the same invectives he used against Chris Wallace would have generated a lot of next-day copy in the media, to say the least). And unlike when he's chosen sides in the past in a battle of politicians, there was actually an opposing viewpoint presented on Thursday's "Countdown".

    If the Hillary and Obama camps decide to back of the current rhetoric, I would guess we'll see the story buried again on "Countdown" to avoid alienating any core viewers; if not, than Keith will probably continue his mild support of Hillary, betting that she'll win the nomination and the Obama folks will have to come back to her and forgive any of Olbermann's tresspasses by this time next year.

    The syphilitic Orangutan is on "Conan" tonight.
    In their promos NBC used an old clip of the O-hole from his darker uni-brow days. Also guesting is giggling juvenile SNL refugee Jimmy Fallon.

    Word is Jimbo will be taking Conan's "Late Night" spot when Conan takes Leno's place on "Tonight".

    After the taping, KO will take a short step in front of a long bus...

    The second we get Habeas Corpus back, I return to the United States of America.

    Posted:
    obama, when you say "we" you are referring to the terrorist detainees and yourself? I wouldn't pack, just yet.....

    19 Fish: Terrific --- I always liked Jimmy Fallon and was severely disappointed when they had taken him off of the Weekend Update of Saturday Night Live a couple of years ago. Now that you have said this --- I can not wait at all until he gets Conan O' Brien's spot !!! It will be a whole new Late Night indeed !!!!!

    Jeff: We as in "we the people". Not only did Jeff forget about the main religion of this nation ... you forgot which charter that we follow. My goodness --- Jeff --- that is the first line of the Constitution of the United States !

    Obama, you are confused, we have Habeas Corpus here. You are obviously defending, or trying to, the terrorist detainees. Are you going to fast until they overturn the ruling? I am still celebrating the ruling, it was a great day for America. Hold 'em forever, I say.

    Ever since the president started playing games with the Constitution --- I do not know specifically how much Habeas or Corpus that we have now a days. As a comment writer, I feel that we should have alot of Habeas Corpus in the United States of America, but as someone who never plays around with terrorism, I think we need to do what is necessary to keep the homeland safe. Whatever should we do ---

    "Hold 'em forever, I say."

    If they're guilty, yes. But none of them have even been TRIED. Hell, most of them haven't been formally ACCUSED of anything.

    Not to mention the ones captured by mistake, or by unscrupulous "bounty hunters" who got $500-$2,000 a pop for every one they captured, or the ones who were turned in by people who had grudges against them...

    I think we need to do what is necessary to keep the homeland safe. Whatever should we do ---
    Obama, I couldn't agree with this part of your post any more.

    no name, the terrorists that we are holding were all detained in "combat" situations, i.e. weapons in posession, shooting at us, posessing bomb making material (contraband), 4' knives, ya' know? You probably think we just drove around picking up people randomly,but, it's not the case. These people all want to kill you and me, get it?

    Rico, if I'm going to be hung as a horse theif I may as well steal a few horses.:)

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Jeff, you claim that all the detainees were in combat situations? Apparently you only listen to the media that we are spoonfed by corperate media and the gov. Maybe you should try checking out FSTV or LINK if you have Dishnet, or check out some world news over the internet. The gov has a hard time keeping it's censoring thumb on the internet, so check for international news sites. Oh I forgot, that would take a little effort. Very little effort, but effort the same, it is easier to be spoonfed.

    nate, I am amazed, baffled, bewildered, etc. how anyone could defend the very same people who's only goal in life is to kill anyone who doesn't share their beliefs. I would ask for an explanation, but, I have asked other "terrorist defender's" and they can't or won't, so, I won't ask you to explain yourself, either.

    nate, I don't think I have seen fstv,but, I have watched link and from what I saw was comparable to al jazeer.

    aka Grammie, please don't use the words "hung" and "horse" in the same sentance. Makes Olby lovers feel inadequate.

    Jeff, I have never watched Al Jazeer, but I am assuming that you must have watched it quite a bit to claim that LINK is comparable. I am proud of you for opening your mind enough to check out AJ. So how are the Farsie lessons going? or is it Arabic? or is it, sh-t! I'm not sure of all the languages spoken in the Middle East, but I guess you are a studing master of the one that Al Jazeer is broadcast in.

    Also jeff if you think that our leader is so God fearing and Christian as he and his handlers claim, check this out: http://www.ziopedia.org/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=3342

    It's in Adobe format. Scroll to the second page, only if you don't have the guts to read an Israei article. Try the fourth paragragh the one that starts: Speaking of George"
    Very interesting.

    Bitch all you want about Hillary vs. Obama.

    Fact is, Moron in Chief has packed and hand delivered the 2008 election to the Dems.

    Who is supposed to fill Ass Clown in Chief's big shoes?

    Cheney?
    Condy?
    Rudy?
    McCain?
    Tancredo?

    oh, wait...Sean Hannity?...
    The Real Reagan Conservative...

    LOL!!

    Don't stop this site. It is so fun watching the so-called conservatives (neocons) implode. One or two libs, dems, america haters, or what ever the f*ck you want to call them, can stump and stupify the believers of J$ and robert cox into a frenzy of name calling. As if name calling is a substitute for intellegence. Goodnight, it has been fun.

    Hey, Good Luck, try not to sink to their level. They love laughing a Dem or Lib that sinks to their level. They feel that they one upped you, which makes them feel good in some warped way.

    "I would ask for an explanation, but, I have asked other "terrorist defender's" and they can't or won't, so, I won't ask you to explain yourself, either."

    Because I believe in the f---IN' Rule of Law, you a--hole. You don't just LOCK PEOPLE AWAY FOREVER because they "might" be guilty of "something". That's how Stalin ran the f---in' gulags in Siberia. That's how the Chinese run their prisons for political prisoners.

    If the United States government has EVIDENCE that PROVES these people are TERRORISTS, then by all means let's have those tribunals. Let's hear it. I'm not taking this GODDAMNED Administration at their word anymore. Time for them to put their money where their mouth is.

    Time for season 2 of PerplexCity. Time to by the best puzzle cards around.

    Oh the decisions: Cheaters, M*A*S*H, 1/2 of Modern Marvels, or Paid Programming.

    nate, I am amazed, baffled, bewildered, etc. how anyone could defend the very same people who's only goal in life is to kill anyone who doesn't share their beliefs. I would ask for an explanation, but, I have asked other "terrorist defender's" and they can't or won't, so, I won't ask you to explain yourself, either.
    Posted by: jeff at February 23, 2007 12:33 AM

    Jeff, hiding his real common name here, Redwolf, defines anyone who disagrees with him as defenders of terrorists. But he calls them religious extremists. Terrorists that are religious extremists. Hmmm sounds a lot like Bush to me.

    When asked in the first Presidential debates with Gore, who his favorite person was, Bush answered, "Jesus is my favorite person because he changed my heart."

    Next thing we know there is hell on earth for millions of Iraqi's. Hundreds of thousands dead. Tens of thousands of GI's maimed and wounded, and more than 3300 dead American soldiers. And a billion Muslims hating this nation more than ever before.

    Redwolf is a low life coward. He was hung out to dry on this page for posting racists sh-t about Muslims. When the right wingers here began to disassociate with him he began changing his name several times an hour. The name "Jeff" is the longest name he has used since using "Redwolf".

    Below is a post that "Jeff" posted while he was using the name Redwolf.

    Jeff is an admitted white supremacist while posting as Redwolf. The guy is a poster boy of white southern protestant KKK white Christian identity.

    Jeff, knows a terrorist when he sees one. He was born into and is a member of the Klu Klux Klan!

    Jeff/Redwolf wrote:
    These jokes will get the Left mad. Hey they can crack Christian jokes right!

    (Q): A deadly snake and a Muslim are both approaching you rapidly, you are a dead shot, you have a gun, but only one bullet, which one do you shoot ?
    (A): The MUSLIM of course !! The snake only bites when provoke. We know the Muslim’s intention.

    I don’t personally have anything against Muslims.
    In fact, I think everyone should own one or two !!

    Q: What do female Muslims use for birth control?
    A: Their faces.

    Q: What’s the difference between a Muslim and a dead horse?
    A. It’s no fun beating a dead horse.

    Q. What’s the difference between an American BBQ and an Islamic BBQ?
    A. In America, Humans roast animals over a fire. In Islam, it’s the other way around.

    Q. What do you say to a Muslim with his arm all the way up a camel’s rump?
    A. “Having car trouble?”

    Q. What’s the difference between Cindy Sheehan and a terrorist enemy?
    A. I don’t know either.

    Q. What’s the difference between Michael Moore and a one ton CARE package?
    A. Michael Moore, if sliced real thin, can feed a larger Afghan village.

    Q: What’s the definition of a virgin in the Middle East?
    A: Any camel that can run faster than an Muslim.

    "Posted by: Red Wolf at January 6, 2007 02:48 AM"

    CW i agree totally. I have been reading this site for months only once in a while actually posting. I did miss the final end of what was known as Red Wolf,but have noticed the ignorance of new posters that are remarkabley simular to Red Wolf postings. The wolf still ignorantly stalks this site, thinking it is in the camo of other names.

    Posted by: at February 23, 2007 1:41 AM Chicken Blogger, you obviously don't like it or approve of it. You go so far in that direction that you compare our country to two of the most repressive murderous regimes in history towards their own citizens, much less enemy combatants. Untold tens of thousands of German POWs were murdered by Stalin's regime. The ChiComs during the Korean War weren't that much better.

    The fact, though, is that both legal and ILLEGAL enemy combatants can be legally detained until the end of hostilities. Our country has done it legally in previous conflicts and it is still legal.

    Habeas Corpus has never applied to combatants, legal or not. The only way that Habeas Corpus might not apply to US citizens, and that is a real stretch, would be for a US citizen to wage war on the US military.

    You very vehemently state that you believe in the rule of law. So do I. However, that places an obligation on us that we accept all applicable laws, not just those that we find politically and emotionally acceptable.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    "The fact, though, is that both legal and ILLEGAL enemy combatants can be legally detained until the end of hostilities."

    And when will that be? 10 years? 20? 50? Are we going to, in effect, be holding these people for the REST OF THEIR NATURAL LIVES without charge or trial because the "end of hostilities" hasn't been reached?

    According to the President, we are fighting a "war on terror". Terror isn't a tangible thing - it's a tactic. You cannot fight a war against a tactic anymore than you can nail Jell-O to a tree. It's fluid - it changes from moment to moment and place to place. Theoretically, it is war without end because it is IMPOSSIBLE to completely defeat terror - you can only hold it at bay.

    Posted by: at February 23, 2007 1:41 AM Chicken Blogger, well there was the Hundred Year War:

    "The Hundred Years War was a conflict between France and England, lasting 116 years from 1337 to 1453."

    I agree that terrorism can be simply a tactic. However, in our time , the term is used in a completely different sense. The War on Terror means a war against a world wide Islamic movement that uses terror as its primary tactic to impose by the sword their religious and political system . When they can ally themselves with a nation state, they do. The access and legitimacy that a Somalia or an Afghanistan gives them is enornmous.

    And if Iraq falls to them it falls to Iran. If you look at a map of the Middle East you can see the strategic value gained in addition to the legitamacy of a nation state in their control.

    I am entering the end stage of my life. Whatever happens will affect me very little, if at all. However, I will leave children, grandchildren, great grandchildren and many others who will face the outcome of any failures we suffer today.

    You state we can only hold terror at bay. If there is no way to victory I'll take the next best thing, holding them at bay by all means necessary.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Keith Olbermann American hero champion of democracy and a free press.

    Olbermann haters? Anti democracy pussy cowards!

    Coward, you do get around. I've been meaning to ask you a question. While you watch all those who you consider cowards, who is watching you?

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Janet, You obviously don't give a sh-t about the future of the world you are leaving your grandchildren.

    How many times do you play this pretend game.

    Let's go through it again.

    Iran never attacked this nation.

    Iraq never attacked this nation.

    It was 19 men, all Baathists (Iran is a nation of Shiites) 15 Saudi nationals who slammed those planes into the WTC.

    You come to this page and pretend you are motivated by sincere concern for this planet and your children's future. Then ignore reality and play this Fox Noise "be afraid, be very afraid" coward Chicken Little propaganda bullsh-t to justify an illegal war on Iraq and now Iran - nations that never attacked this nation and never threatened to. Now you gladly defend killing hundreds thousands of innocents.

    Iran wants nothing more than an end to US aggression in the region. Oil is running out on this planet and as it does those poor nations in the oil rich regions of the world will be destroyed as we all fight over it. While fat pigs drive gas guzzling cars all over this nation.

    You have Fox Noise and Rush Limbaugh as your god - not Jesus. You have zero concern for the mothers and grandmothers whose lives have be torn apart in Iraq. You are too much of a coward to give them any thought.

    The only terrorists in this nation are the cowards that suck up the bullsh-t on Fox Noise and then go around pretending to be pretentious know-it-alls on this world runs. You are an ignorant a--hole who has no clue what you are talking about. You are vermin that spreads hate. That is all you are.

    You are a despicable coward that will burn in a hell of your own creation!

    Ok, so let me get this staight. Rush, Billo, FOX Noise, the NY Post, Washigton Times, etc etc etc, can push the GOP's agenda many times over, and not even get as much as a request for a footnote, but the exact second that KO says ANYTHING that you don't agree with or you think he's pushing an agenda for the other side, you're right on it, saying that he's some fat ass that that he is somehow lying.

    For one, Blair made a TIMETABLE for withdraw, that's why some British forces are still in Iraq. Never once mentioned in the "response". Maybe because it would've proven this idiot false.

    Scooter Libby was covered tonight. Where the hell were you when he talked about it? Watching Billo defend Shawn Hornbeck's abductors again?

    Never be enacted into law because Bush is too stubborn to know when something is a failure. C'mon, how dense can you possibly BE? Have you heard about this filibuster, or just don't care? And why WOULDN'T it be a Hiliary victory? If Brit Hume or Sean Hannity would've said this same thing, you would've never questioned it or called any of them a dunce or whatever the hell you were trying to do.

    Ok, I do not get your criticism about KO's Anna Nicole coverage. Have you WATCHED this trial? Have you watched this poor excuse for a judge? Who in the hell died and made him the judge. For one, "we are going to take our time, dot our I's and cross our T's, that body isn't going to decompose, that baby is in cold storage." Then why were we in a rush to get her embomed and stressing that we need to get this done by Friday so they can have a public showing? Then the trial itself, which I am trying to find a few things as examples, but I'm not sure where to start at. Just watch, actually WATCH, the clips, ANY clips, whether or not you think they might be taken out of context, of this judge and PLEASE tell me again where the KO bashing aboout his comments about this judge is warrented. This JUDGE is a disgrace, and I think your criticisms are on the wrong target here.

    Glad to have my first post here in order to at least try to break down your crtiicisms (which isn't that hard, actually). Am I an Olby fan? Of course. So what?

    "It was 19 men, all Baathists (Iran is a nation of Shiites) 15 Saudi nationals who slammed those planes into the WTC.

    You are a despicable coward that will burn in a hell of your own creation!

    Posted by Coward Watching at February 23, 2007 4:25 AM"

    My dear, you should really make an effort to educate yourself a bit before before you spout off and blatantly display your ignorance. Or perhaps your stupi. No, I won't go there. I'm a lady.

    The Bath party is and was a political party in IRAQ that drew from Sunni muslims, a very small minority in Iraq. Saddam Hussein patterned himself after his hero, Joseph Stalin, and led a vicious minority to total murderous domination over Iraq and its Shia majority. The Saudis follow Wahabism, a very fundamendal sect that is connected to the Sunnis.

    The rest of your post is such vile and vicious rantings that I can almost see your spit on my screen.

    Can't you think of some new insults. Coward is really starting to wear thin.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Two things I forgot to mention:

    One, Joe Scarborough ALSO talked about the Anna case Judge going all over the place. Remember Monty Python And The Holy Grail, when the narrorator rambled about some incoherant thing for way too long, and then you saw people saying to the guy, in unison, "GET ON WITH IT!"? I wish we could play THAT in that courtroom when the judge was using one of his ancedotes to "help the proceedings go smoothly" (the hell they did).

    And two, why was there no report on the Breaking News that came in during the hour about the AP reporting that the Democrats were pushing to have a measure to limit the force in Iraq to be put into already exsisting legislation about the Iraq war. I would've thought this would be important news, that got into the MSNBC news desk at THAT VERY HOUR, yet you never said one word about that. Why?

    Janet, while I do agree that some of the stuff CW was saying was a bit over the top, I have to agree with a few things he said. For one, President Bush said himself that the war in Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. The Intel said that Saddam loathed Al Quedia, thus why would he let them have a safe haven in his country if he couldn't stand them?

    It wasn't Baths, or Sunnis, or anyone inparticular that attacked our country on 9/11. The 19 men were extremists, perversing whatever religion they followed to justify carrying out as suicide mission against our country. We cannot think of them as anything other than that.

    darkpower , lets go through your post.

    "Janet, while I do agree that some of the stuff CW was saying was a bit over the top"

    Your statement indicates that CW went a tad over the top on only a few statements. That should make it easy for you to quote the small number of 'over the top statements'. We can both stipulate, I'm sure, that Bathists were not among the criminals who killed 3,000 plus US citizens on 911.

    Now to the things that " I have to agree with a few things he said.":

    "For one, President Bush said himself that the war in Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. The Intel said that Saddam loathed Al Quedia, thus why would he let them have a safe haven in his country if he couldn't stand them?"

    Could you please cite Cowie saying this. I sure missed it. If you can quote it, I stand corrected.

    In fact, please give me the citations for GWB's statements and the Intel re Hussein loathing Al Quaida.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Oh come on Janet!

    Then clearly you 'missed' information that is common knowledge to just about everyone else. Maybe these things weren't covered on Fox 'News' though. What a surprise that would be.

    Bush was directly asked at a relatively recent news conference "what did Iraq have to do with 911", and his answer was 'nothing'. Research it yourself. I heard it as it was being asked, and being answered. You're the one probably stuck on Fox 'News', and it would not surprise me if they had left that completely out of THEIR coverage. Now why would they have done that?

    Also, it has been reported many times from many knowlegable sources that Al Quada and Saddam did not like each other, and did not trust each other. This is all considered common knowledge in the REAL news world.

    Bye for now.

    Just the other day I read somewhere (can't remember which site) that the total body count of US soldiers killed during Bill Clinton's first four years was 4,178. Of course they mostly died in training accidents.
    But just imagine if the MSM would have had a runing tally at the time. We might have had a President Dole.

    Mike, if you just found out from a recent statement by GWB that Iraq, and by extension Saddam Hussein, HAD NO DIRECT ROLE IN 911 you are about five years behind the times. I was asking for a citation about loathing each other. To paraphrase Winston Churchill re the alliance with Stalin in WWII, he said he would make an alliance with the devil to defeat Hitler and worry about the devil later. I have no doubt (research it) that Hussein and UBL had a very loose and limited alliance and both thought when whatever use they had for each other came to an end they would annilate the other.

    Are you so naive to believe that Hussein and UBL would hate each other more than they hated the Great Satan, the US and other western nations?

    And what is your obsession with Fox news? Fox became available where I lived previously in 2002 or 2003. Although I surfed all the cable news channels that were available I was then, as now, more a devotee of the various C-Span channels.

    Surely you don't base your feelings of superiority on the fact that you don't watch Fox. That is not exactly an exclusive group. You and well over 290+ million people never watch Fox.

    Mike, facts are facts. Hard news is one thing, and commentary is another. Every news outlet is a mixture to one degree or another. I could equally say that if you only get your news from KO you don't always know what is going on in the REAL world.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Posted by Mikey:

    "Bush was directly asked at a relatively recent news conference "what did Iraq have to do with 911", and his answer was 'nothing'. Research it yourself. I heard it as it was being asked, and being answered. You're the one probably stuck on Fox 'News', and it would not surprise me if they had left that completely out of THEIR coverage. Now why would they have done that?"


    Our President is getting tired of the same old questions with the intent to criticize rather than aquire knowledge. We went to war with Iraq for many reasons including Iraq in violation of UN Res 1441, firing on our jets in the "no-fly-zone", starving and depriving his people of food and medice while accepting cash and weapons from our supposed allies, France, Germany and Russia.
    SAdam was a threat to stability in the region. You liberals whine about evey little thing. When the Middle East goes up in smoke and gas goes to $10/gallon I can hear your squalling already. Me, I can afford $10/gallon. I want like it but it will give me complete satisfaction lnowing liberals that ain't makinit in life are suffering dearly. Don't call GW, call Pelosi, Levine...........They should swing just like Sadam.

    I was watching that little fat bastard this morning on TV, with that comb-over, Hey Mikey, and that growth on his face and poiting at the camera as if he were talking to our President. I wonder how you would hang that little fat SOB. You couldn't put a rope around his neck. I think I would take him down to Gitmo and thrown him in with the worst, with a few dull knives. maybe he can win them over with his liberal personallity and smile.

    Hey Carl, why is the econmoy in your state lagging so far behind the rest of the country. I was in Detroit 5-6 weeks ago. What a sh-thole, unmarked streets right downtown, cars sitting up on blocks stripped out. No doubt there is zero city management. Just like New Orleans. They re-elected an incompetent and corrupt mayor whose soon to be residency will be a fed pen. Then you have that idiot governor.

    Get a life losers. Oh, wait, you are a liberal.

    Mr. Neanderthal

    ***********************************

    Rudy in 2008

    In case you missed it:
    KeithO to TV Guide Magazine- " I would be the first person to scream about bias against a liberal point of view anytime — or a bias against a conservative point of view."

    LINK (www.tvguide.com/news-views/columnists/the-biz/default.aspx)
    I hope this puts into context why I think Keith, and by extension all olbyloons, haven't a leg to stand on. He is full of poo.

    Does Olbermann not watch his own show?

    "Keith is the highest rated program on that network.."

    That's simply pathetic.

    Again- another statement out of context.
    "highest rated program on that network"
    Typically any show in that timeslot is the HIGHEST rated show.
    That's why they call it primetime. Yet Olbermann (and Dan Abrams) sees it as a mandate that proves the biased formula is working. Wrong. Phil Donahue's unbiased show was the highest rated for the network too.

    Britney Spears couldn't be Olby's whore
    The age limit is twenty-four
    Britney's older than her
    Teen fan Katy Tur
    Mister Man on Fan like before

    I was sorry to hear from noted military analyst General Olbermann that with 7,100 troops in Iraq, Great Britain's military is stretched to the breaking point. God help us. God help Great Britain even more. Let's hope Britain doesn't get attacked by tiny Fiji. The Fiji Islands can man an army of 164,000.

    How come no more "bald" stories?
    In less than a week we had the laser comb for curing baldness, bald Britney and a few more.

    KO is a piece of work, Levin touched and maybe twisted a raw nerve accusing KO of wearing a rug!
    Harharhar..!

    >>Get a life losers. Oh, wait, you are a liberal.

    Mr. Neanderthal

    ***********************************

    Rudy in 2008

    WOW!!!

    Can't wait for the hard core Repigs to start bashing "Limousine-Con Rudy"

    Yup! Even Chris Matthews likes Rudy 'cuz he doesn't own a "f---in' ranch"

    Good Luck You Bu-Sh-iet Lovers!

    Rudy-Hillary wouldn't even be close.
    So run your hype now libbys... cause you know
    there won't be gloating in 2008!

    "Little Feechie: Very lame summary via the dollar."

    That alwasys has been the first word that pops into my mind when I read one of Little Freaky's posts.

    Bushkills, how'd you get your head out of your ass today? Did you use the usual crowbar or did you get creative?

    Our President is getting tired of the same old questions with the intent to criticize rather than aquire knowledge. We went to war with Iraq for many reasons including Iraq in violation of UN Res 1441, firing on our jets in the "no-fly-zone", starving and depriving his people of food and medice while accepting cash and weapons from our supposed allies, France, Germany and Russia.
    SAdam was a threat to stability in the region. You liberals whine about evey little thing.

    Posted by: Brick at February 23, 2007 8:08 AM

    Bush has changed his reasons for going to war with Iraq, as each that he gave , fell by the wayside and was found not to be true.
    The fact that you continue to support this lying dunce is probably b/c you are both just two lying good ole boys yourself.
    Just like you proudly proclaimed a story about breaking the law and getting away with it, you do the same for your lord and master Mr. Bush.

    "Our president is tired of the same old questions with intent to criticize rather than acquire knowledge."
    Brickhead is precious!
    Since when has this imbecile ever given us any real knowedge ?
    And asking the POTUS questions and getting an answer is his f---ING JOB, you dimwit.

    If there was a Democratic president as clueless as Bush, Brick would be frothing at the mouth in contempt for him.
    Since it's a republican, not so much frothing.

    Brick continues to show everyone what a fraud he truly is !


    Our resident redneck hick also continues to tell us all how much money he makes.
    How pathetic is that !

    Little Mattie speaks:
    And says nothing, as usual.

    Little Mattie is the most consistent poster at this site...for saying nothing.
    Well Done, Little Mattie.

    M Shultz,
    "Of course, there are also questions of draft shenanigans."

    Like Bill Clinton?

    Rudy will cream Hillary!
    Geffen exposed her as the fake she is and no one cares about Giulliani's personal life. The Left is very scared of Rudy. As a Moderate Democrat, who has voted against Bush, I will vote for Rudy in a NY minute!

    Rudddddddddeeeeeeeee is following in our current president's footsteps( that can't be good, Rudy) where he is always playing to friendly audiences,afraid of the real tough questions .

    Stepping to the Plate, Giuliani Is Seeing Only Softballs


    SPARTANBURG, S.C., Feb. 21 - In a swing through South Carolina this week, Rudolph W. Giuliani chose to campaign at a fire house, which is a little like Derek Jeter meeting with Yankees fans - a most unlikely forum for hostility, or even much skepticism.

    Instead of the sometimes barbed give-and-take endured by the other candidates, Mr. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, fielded a few questions from the firefighters and police officers who gathered to hear him here. The questions, which began with comments like, "Being in your presence here is just unbelievable," stuck almost entirely to issues on which Mr. Giuliani is most comfortable, like airport security and border control.

    More than the other major presidential candidates, Mr. Giuliani has limited himself to events with narrowly defined, friendly audiences, avoiding the kind of uncomfortable interrogations his rivals have occasionally faced. Aside from a couple of brief swings through diners, including one yesterday in Delray Beach, Fla., he has done little of the politicking that exposes candidates to random sets of people - at shopping malls or train stations - who might be of any political stripe, and can raise any issue.

    Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton, John McCain and Barack Obama and others have held forums in Iowa and New Hampshire that were open to anyone and were widely advertised in advance - Mr. McCain did three on Saturday alone. People who were clearly skeptical pressed the candidates - Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain on their Iraq war positions, and Mr. Obama on his relative inexperience.

    Mr. Giuliani has had no such events so far. He has yet to be questioned by voters about his support for abortion rights, same-sex civil unions and gun control, or about his marital history.

    No Joker,The Christian right and many republican Americans are not going to welcome Rudy with open arms with his views on abortion, gun control and gay rights.
    The only three things he is right about, will go over like a lead balloon with the ignorant republican base.

    Count on Rudy, just liked you counted on the American people not noticing 6 years of failures for the Nov midterms.

    The main issue with most Americans is the failing Iraq war.
    Americans will vote for the candidate that will end the war( since we know Bush won't)
    WHich GOP candidate has said he'll end the war ?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

    Oh yes, we're sooooooooo scared of a man destined to lose.
    Ha !

    cw/coward watch, or, whoever you are. I am jeff and I post under jeff and only jeff, got it? The moniters of this site can identify where each post comes from by the isp and the e-mail address you put in the little yellow box, dumbass. It is obvious that you are defending the enemy, which you are entitled to do, this is America. So, stick to defending the enemy and not trying to identify who is posting what.

    bk, are you still too ashamed to state who your candidate is for '08? Or, are you still backing the "fire dept.?"

    Dick Cheney, the man who is accountable for nothing, is the person who will tell other countries what is "consistent" with a peaceful image in the world?
    ( when he scolded China yesterday)

    Mr. Vice President: Shut the hell up !

    Your Iraq War has done more harm than any world event since WWII.

    You have no credibility left, Mr. VP.
    None !

    bk, are you still too ashamed to state who your candidate is for '08? Or, are you still backing the "fire dept.?"

    Posted by: jeff at February 23, 2007 11:17 AM

    I will always back my local fire Dept and police.Jeff is too dumb to know it was a joke when I made that comment. But it's also the truth since I give generously.
    If you're asking who I support for 08':
    Whoever has the best chance of winning.
    Any of the Democratic candidates would make a good president.
    Bill Richardson has the most experience and would make a great president but doesn't have much chance of winning the nomination.
    Any of them are much smarter than our current one, who has set the bar so incredibly low for any succeeding president in the next 100 years.

    Since I've been a staunch critic of this war since day 1 , not a Johnny come lately, I couldn't in conscience vote for a republican since none of them have my views on the war.

    Bushkill Falls, Pa,
    I disagree. In 2008 Americans will be voting on several issues. Iraq will be one of them but, Rudy is a leader unlike Hillary who's a poll driven robot. There's also the Islamic threat and who do you think Iran/Al-Qaeda/Hizballah would fear, Hillary or Rudy?If you're so confident of Rudy not winning why is he beating Hillary in the head to head matchups?
    Why does the Left fear him?

    Feel better now Jeffrey?
    Since you've been losing sleep over my answer to your question ...from a comment I made days ago that you obviously didn't get.
    Jeffrey the Giraffe isn't too bright !

    bk, typical(whacko)lib, waiting to see which way the wind blows! Hussain and Billary are going to self-destruct, thank God.

    A haiku for your enjoyment...

    Mister Olbermahn
    Ringed waves ripple outwardly
    When large turd splashes

    That comment was mine, since the wingnuts always get their panties in a bunch if they don't see a name.

    Bushkills,
    As for Rudy getting softballs, Hillary get even more softballs. Especially from the media!

    bk, typical(whacko)lib, waiting to see which way the wind blows! Hussain and Billary are going to self-destruct, thank God.

    Posted by: jeff at February 23, 2007 11:33 AM

    As Jeffrey fails to include his candidate.
    His own hypocrisy is totally lost on himself.

    Self Destruct? or swiftboated?
    You don't have a candidate with Obama's integrity.

    Mr. Mormon whose religion believes that blacks should be slaves.
    Mr McCain who support for the war dooms him.
    Or Mr. 3 Wives Rudy. A man the 9/11 families hold in contempt.And many public workers who caught diseases b/c he didn't warn them about the air around Groud Zero.

    Great choices, Jeffrey.
    Afraid to pick one?

    Bushkills,
    As for Rudy getting softballs, Hillary get even more softballs. Especially from the media!

    Posted by: The Joker at February 23, 2007 11:36 AM

    Obviously the Joker doesn't read.

    Senators Hillary Rodham Clinton, John McCain and Barack Obama and others have held forums in Iowa and New Hampshire that were open to anyone and were widely advertised in advance - Mr. McCain did three on Saturday alone. People who were clearly skeptical pressed the candidates - Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain on their Iraq war positions, and Mr. Obama on his relative inexperience.

    The unfunny Joker keeps pounding that same erroneous statement into the turf on the liberals fearing Guiliani.

    No one fears him Jokester, no one.

    And you're the only one I'd heard say that.
    ( probably a Fox Noise talking point, but I wouldn't know. I haven't watched it lately)

    Bushkills, how'd you get your head out of your ass today? Did you use the usual crowbar or did you get creative?

    I don't debate with liberals. Same way I don't negotiate with the crap that comes out of my ass. Very little difference between the two activities.

    Bushkill did you take off your helmet? Be careful.

    I was told Keith Olbersmurf looks like a skinned pear with his clothes off, complete with a pasty-white flab ass and gi-normous hate-handles (this guy is incapable of "love handles", as he is evil).

    As far as Bushkill, Pa having his head stuck up his own ass, this isn't my opinion or a joke. He really does have his head up his ass. I was just concerned.

    Bushkill Falls, Pa ,
    Chris Matthews who's a liberal said Rudy would be tough to beat. So do many analysts.
    Besides, since when does the Left care about people's personal lives?
    Also Rudy beats Hillary in every poll.
    Explain that?

    Joker, the left cares about people's personal lives when it serves their hateful and disgusting agenda. The ends justify the means to these wretched and belligerently stupid lemmings.

    Since Olby makes every attempt to make conservatives racist on his program, here's the truth.

    A few weeks ago, a religious group held a conference and there were a few conservatives attending. A Bishop made some derogatory remarks about g..g...gaaay (cough, cough) faggots. Olby made sure to show the photos of all the liberals while quoting the bishop. What he failed to show you was a photo of the Bishop or even tell the viewer was that the Bishop was a black male. Hum? Anyone believe that if the Bishop had been white his photo would not have appeared on the line up or Worse Person. Couple that with the fact that blacks hate fags more than white people so Olbyloon didn't want to take some of teh edge off of his report to his black viewers. Hum?

    Any reasonable person knows the liberal media give liberals passes when they make racial remarks about whites and rip into conservatives when they slip. Donna Brazil, Gore campaign manager, (we all know how that turned out, not too good for liberals, real good for repub's), said she was going to get those "white boys" and win in 2000. Didn't bother me. Look at the source.

    Show me a man that says he never used the "N" word and he's a liar, yeah, including all you liberals on this board and ol'Olbyloon. I've already posted Olby's great, great, great grandfather and beyond dealed in the slave trade. He can't run from his past. He's as lilly white as I am. He's as Amercan as I am and a terrorist would cut his head off just as fast as any of us no matter how much of a silly grin he would use to talk his way out of it. Olby says he learned about race relations late one night when a ploiceman shined a light on him and turned it off and a few nights later a policeman shined a light on a black man and "they didn't turn it off". WTF. That's his lesson in life about race relations. He probably went to a northern, private high school and never even sat in a class with a black person until college. So, he's a real authority on race. Intelligent people know and I posted that as well a few days ago. If you were born especially in the 60's and before and you came up being told to hate another race, that the other race is bad, and it was beat into you, do you think you would be different. That's the big difference between me and Olby. Olby is an idiot and biggoted against southern, conservative, white males.

    I look at these hardcore racist people with pity. Olby looks at them as if they were scum when the only difference was their upbringing. I mean, Olby loves to take a dick up his ass but I wont hold that against him, that was how he was raised.

    We've seen Joe Biden make two racist remarks in the past few months, the first about Indians owning motels and convenience store and how "they" do a real good job and the comments about Obam Bin Laden. Not much in the press. Then GW says Obam is articualte and all hell breaks loose. WTF.

    I looked up the origin of the "N" word. It was around before slavery, has more than one meaning, in some parts it is not considered racial and at different times it was not considered racial. It became racial during slavery though. It is what it is my friends. 3-4 years ago, Ku Klux Klan member, the honorable United States Senator from WV, Rober Byrd said he knew white n%$#$ers. Hum. Since the word is racially directed at black people, then to use it is to say I recognize blacks by n%$##er and I asociate you with it. What happens in the press and liberal black politicians, nothing. Hum?

    And now to celebrate Black History month, TV networks are running Rosewood, A Time To Kill, Mississippi Burning, etc. That is celebrating Black History? That is progress. Bull sh-t. That is living in the past and that is exactly what black politicians and uncle Tom's like Jesse Jacksona dn Al Sharpton want. They afre profitting off it and they don't want any changes. If God came down to earth tonight and woke Jesse Jackson and said, "Jesse, I can end racism tonight with the snap of a finger, all I need is your permission". Jesse would say, "Let's talk about it Lord".

    The first black man that becomes our President will be a republican. Not some Uncle Tom like Obama Bin Laden. He says, "I would not have voted for the war". Not sh-t.

    bk, I personally like Tancredo and Hunter, they are not exactly front runners, I know, that's who I like. I actually will vote for someone who has integrity, tough on immigration and terror. I'm not someone who will sit back w/my finger in the air waiting to see "who has the best chance." A candidates values and views actually matter to me. I also would not have a problem w/Bill Richardson, at least he might be semi-tough on immigration, so he say's.

    I meant "conservatives" in my last post about the photos. I said liberals by mistake.

    Olberdoof and the rest of the white male liberal leftists are ridden with white guilt; so much so they can't see straight.

    " I personally like Tancredo and Hunter, they are not exactly front runners, I know, that's who I like. I actually will vote for someone who has integrity, tough on immigration and terror."

    They're 2 racist jerks. Tancredo is shouldn't dare criticize Hispanic immigrants. He has Spanish blood. In 1282 Pedro of Aragon conquered Sicily. Sicily was a Spanish possesion for 600 years. Italians and Sicilians are Latins also. Alo mr Tomas Tancredo's grandparents are from Sicily, did they come here legally.
    He wants to be Anglo, but look at him. He looks like Hispanic. In fact I know Spaniards, Cubans and Argentines that're whiter than that jerk. People from Spain and Italy look at Sicilians as
    blacks! He has a KKK mentality, but they would never except him. He's not Anglo, but he pertends to be.
    As mush as I detest Hillary, I would vote for here over those 2 Nazi clowns any day of the week. If they Republicans keep up their anti-Immigrant attitude they'll lose Hispanics in Florida who are Republican.
    f--- Tancredo and Hunter!
    One wants to be part of the Klan, the other is a spawn!

    3 more posts today by the pathological liar know as 'Brick', who stated 2 days in a row that "I only post here once every 3 - 4 weeks".

    "Brick' addressed me again earlier I see, even though I told him I wont read any more of his pathetic name calling drivel anymore, and trust me 'Brick', I haven't.

    However Prick, I couldn't help but read some of the responses to the crap you've been posting, and several things are apparent:

    1) - You think people give a flying f**k about how much money you make. Trust me Prick, they don't! It just shows what a low life you are to keep bragging about however much money you make. I have several personal friends who are rich beyond most people's dreams, and THEY never rub their money in anyone else's face. Only a low life does that!

    2) - According to Prick himself, he is breaking the law of the land, and then he comes on this board and brags about it. What a great 'citizen' this creep is!

    3) - He also braggs about polluting the air and chugging fuel. Even if global warming were not an issue, there's nothing admiral about chugging down fuel and polluting the air. Apparently Prick has no problem supporting the terrorists, as well as the thug in Venezuela, because he is doing that every time he wastes fuel like that.

    4) - 'Brick' has also been bragging about his 'hot' cars, and seems to love blowing people's door's off. Prick, once again, nobody on here gives a flying f**k about your gas gulching cars! All that does is show once again what a low life you are.

    5) - To 'Brick', everything is about him and himself. To 'Brick', personal selfishness is somehow a virtue, not the vice everyone who has values knows it to be.

    Janet, he's one of your's. THIS is a good example of the way many of those 20% or so holdouts who also believe Bush is a great president live and think. Take him and be proud!

    Mike,
    read my above post balsting Jeff.

    Jeff,
    Tancredo and Hunter are racist screwball. Why do they get all work3d up over Hispanic immigrants but not Muslims?
    It wasn't Mexicans that rammed planes into the World Trade Center.

    Enforcing laws is obviously racist. Only some laws should be enforced.

    joker, you have some serious issues! Enforcing the laws all ready on the books is racist? Wow!

    No,
    Without the growing Hispanic population our population would be falling like Europe's. Muslims immigrants would be coming here to take over. Better the Mexicans than the Saudi's. Wouldn't you say.
    Also Immigration restrictions are pretty new. When Immigrants came from Europe in the late 1800 and early 1900's there were no laws.
    We need to increase our quoatas from Latin America, but also instead of attarcting low skill workers we should make it easier for College educated Hispanics to come here.
    I have family in Argentina who would come here in a heart beat. They are English speaking professionals, but still have to wait the same amount of time as uneducated workers. That's not fair.

    We obviously need more low wage, low income people here. How else are we supposed to create a permanent lower class and protect our Aristocracy? Plus it makes me feel better to feel for these people and make no distinction between illegal and legal immigrants.

    jeff,
    That's their excuse. Tancredo is the grandson of Immigrants from a Latin country. He's a hypocrite. This isn't about enforcing laws. It's about being upset at Hispanic Immigrants. There are Illegal Europeans, why no big fuss about them?
    Hmmm.
    Why no fus of the Jihad supporting Muslims in America? Hmmm.
    It's racist. It has nothing to do about laws.

    joker, you may not know this, but, the last stats I saw read like this- 1 out of 5 immigrants coming across the border are dangerous criminals, i.e. baby rapists, murders and drug dealers. A staggering statistic, this is ok w/you?

    Well, Mike, we all have our burdens to bear. You have Coward and his many manifestations, Bushkill, Donora, Slob, Blindrat, jethro and the overwhelming bulk of the Chicken Bloggers. I don't hold you, or anyone else, responsible for the word's of others unless they state their agreement.

    Does my side have our equivalents? Absolutely!

    Do some of the personally nasty posters on my side ever say something I agree with in a way that is acceptable? Yes. The same for the crosses you have to bear, I'm sure.

    And all of this means that the world does not conform to our idea of perfection.

    I have been guilty in the very recent past of what you just did. Benson and a few others have advised me to let it slide and not appeal to others. I have thought about it and agree with them.

    It will be difficult but I am going to try to take their advice. After all, as a member in good standing with the women of this world I feel entitled to the last word. Its my just do.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Last time I checked Illegal Euros weren't flooding our hospitals, taking welfare, and sending whatever money they do make back to the homeland. No one cares about the Muslims? Are you outta your mind? Do you have any idea how hard it is for people from the Mid East to come here legally now?

    "A staggering statistic, this is ok w/you?"

    What about the Italian Mob and Irish Gangs of the early 20th Century?

    Hey how many Mexican participated in the 9/11 attacks?

    bk, illegal europeans aren't pouring uncontrollably across the border, last I heard. Also, last I heard there was plenty of fuss about the radical muslims supporters in America. You should try a different channel on your tv or radio. Orange face avoids it like the plague, as well as "M"ore "S"not "N"ose "B"road"C"asters and cnn, just to name a few.

    "Last time I checked Illegal Euros weren't flooding our hospitals, taking welfare, and sending whatever money they do make back to the homeland. "

    I though it was about breaking the law?
    The Welfare argument is moot. How many Hispanic illegals pay taxes?
    Wnat to get into that one?

    " Also, last I heard there was plenty of fuss about the radical muslims supporters in America."

    What world are you in? The Left supports the Muslims and they are untochable. There's more of a fuss about Mexicans that Muslims.

    "bk, illegal europeans aren't pouring uncontrollably across the border, last I heard."

    Only 1/2 of Illegals come across the Mexican border. The rest fly in or come in from Canada.
    Where do you think Al-Qaeda or Hizballah would come in from?
    Mexico or Canada?

    whatever, good post and point. bk, this is the 21st century, Italian mobs and Irish gangs are non minimal to non exhistant.

    Illegals collect welfare, they get free education, often get grants to universities, they do not pay income tax, they do pay sales tax, but most of their money goes back to Mexico it is not spent here. Mexico's #1 source of income is money sent from here to there. The tax argument is bunk. The contribution of the estimated 12 million illegals is vastly overrated. If you want to come here, sign the guest book on the way in and speak English.

    The point I'm making is that it's an immigration cycle. Why should College educated Hispanics wait the same amount of time as low skill workers?
    The laws are stupid.

    bk, welfare is a "moot" point? Illegals sucking up welfare, flooding hospitals. Don't get me started on that. Moot, an unbelievable response.

    c'mon,
    That's a lie. They don't collect welfare. The 12 Million Illegals aren't all Hispanic. What would you propose to so about them?
    Try to deport them and cause race war?

    M Schultz,
    What's your imput on the Immigration debate raging here. I want your imput.

    jeff,
    So want an Ethic war in this country?
    That's the result of your attitude. That's why I'm a Democrat. Although I agree with The Republicans on National Security and some economic issues, when it comes to their racist attitudes of Hispanics, they lose me. Here in Florida, the local GOP is Pro-Hispanic. That's why I voted for Jeb Bush and Charlie Crist.
    The national GOP should follow Florida.
    Until that time, I'm a Democrat.

    How does pointing out facts about illegals make someone a racist?

    Back up your facts.
    You're just spitting hyperbole.
    What abou the crimes Italiasn and Irish did during the last Immigration wave?

    Most all Hispanics, Blacks and Whites are racist to some degree. A good example is Blacks and Hispanics relations in California.

    Hispanics aren't a race. They are a cultural group.
    They are Hispanics that are White, Balck, Native American or Asian.

    The point is that issue that hurts the GOP is the racist attitude of Wannabe Anglo Tancredo, Hunt's Kethchup and Senslessnobrainer! Keep it up and you'll permanently in the minority.
    Another question, who do you perfer as Immigrants,
    Hispanics who are Christian and come from the same Judeo-Christian root as most Americans or Jihad loving Muslims?

    Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work.

    The money they earn here does not stay here. It goes to Mexico. As far as Hispanics/latino not being a race, tell that to the US government and all the census bureau.

    Racism isn't a political persuasion. It's just used by subhuman scum like the Clintons to forward their politics. They trample all over blacks, gays, whites, latinos, anyone who they can castigate to further their personal power ambitions.

    It's racist to treat "minorities" differently due to their race (liberals do this exclusively).

    FACT:
    Illegals with US born children can collect welfare

    "Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare."
    How is this known? If they are here illegally how is it know what percentage is on Welfare?
    Lou Dobbs is a WASP racist scumbag!

    "As far as Hispanics/latino not being a race, tell that to the US government and all the census bureau."
    Iy says in the census that Hispanics aren't a race. Hispanics are then required to put a race that closely defines them.

    "It's racist to treat "minorities" differently due to their race (liberals do this exclusively)."
    I agree with you there. All Americans should be traeted the same. Some of the most Racist people I've ran into are Democrats!
    That being said, THe GOP makes the mistake of giving credence to clowns like Tancredo.

    ???,
    So do you want a race war in this country? Do you really think Hispanic-Americans will stand by as you try to deport 8-9 Million Hispanics?
    What about the Hispanic soldiers in the US Army, they'll just sit by? You don't think China or Russian would jump in?
    Think of the consequences.
    Hey how many Mexicans did 9/11?

    Joker,

    It doesn't matter how many facts are given to you, you will deny them. Being from San Antonio, I can tell you, I know first hand that illegal immigration is problem in increasing violent crime, illegal drug trade, and human smuggling. The excuse of multiculturalism will not allow liberals to see what is right in front of them. The slow deterioration of our culture. We don't assimilate to them. They assimilate to us.

    Why do we assume that law-abiding Americans of Mexican (or any latin) descent are all for illegal immigration?

    Nobody wants a race war and per usual, you jump straight to the "I must want to deport all of them". Where the hell did I even suggest that? Pointing out the drain on our economy doesn't mean that I want them all deported, although if one was to be consistent such a stance would only be logical but not really practical. If you want all the laws to apply to everyone, then apply them to everyone.

    ???,
    "The excuse of multiculturalism will not allow liberals to see what is right in front of them."

    Valid point. The Left doesn't want Hispanics to learn English. They want us to be their little serfs. In Florida where Hispanics aren't brainwashed by the left, we have higher living standards and there's more Hispanics with businesses here.
    The Multicultural thing is bunk. Hispanics are part of the same Judeo-Christian culture as America.
    Hispanics are part of the same

    It speaks volumes (reading that Rolling Stone puff piece) that The Olberrated One believes that anybody who cares about borders, language and culture (per Michael Savage's mantra) is a "bigot" (his exact words about Glenn Beck). I suppose this would make Keith a raving internationalist who couldn't care less that our sovereignty is going down the toilet. (Be very wary about those who complain about "nativists" or "xenophobes" - those who throw around such words are usually of a One World internationalist bent.) And the problem isn't the likes of Tancredo or Sensenbrenner or Rohrabacher, who are trying to sound the alarm (i.e. about the back door to terrorists issue) - and say that those seeking to enter this country from elsewhere should play by the rules and not cut ahead. The real problem is the illegal aliens' lobby (including but not limited to the "National Council of La Raza" - which means "The Race" in Spanish, in other words, an outright "brown-supremacist" group; and the Service Employees International Union, SEIU) and their network of operatives - and Bush's crony big business interests, out for cheap (if not outright slave) labor, who end up playing right into the hands of the street anarchists and "rent-a-mobs" who held all those pro-illegal demonstrations throughout the country last year; plus the Democrats who are likewise "open borders" for their own selfish reasons. Polls have indicated that 70-75% of the American people are against amnesty for illegal aliens. By some counts the figure would be 80-85% if not for such operatives, rent-a-mobs and the endless pro-illegal slant in the media. In addition, those from Mexico who DID play by the rules in seeking U.S. citizenship, are against those seeking to cut ahead in the citizenship line. And while Dobbs has been tireless in pointing all this out, Savage beat him to it.

    "And the problem isn't the likes of Tancredo or Sensenbrenner or Rohrabacher, who are trying to sound the alarm (i.e. about the back door to terrorists issue) "
    What about Canada?

    "70-75% of the American people are against amnesty for illegal aliens."
    Polls also show that 65-70% favor a path to citizenship.

    "an outright "brown-supremacist" group;"
    Hispanics can be any color. By your definition, Tancredo is Brown.

    I believe that we should increase the quotas from Latin America. However if someone is College educated, they should be given prefernce than a low skill worker. I have cousins from Argentina that want to come here. But when they went to the Embassy, they were told the wait is 7 years! Why should farm workers be given the same chance as them? The wait your turn method, is dumb. Yet Mr. Bush gave 60,000 visas to Saudis?
    How great!

    Olbermann is racist!

    bk, next time you are out bouncin' your hydralics, drive by your local welfare office and take a peek inside, you will see at least 90% "hispanics" if not more. Then, if you have time, visit your local emergency room, same thing again.

    oops, my last comment was to joker, not bk, he loves the muslims, my mistake.

    concerned citizen-very well put!

    I attempted to post a comment with three citations to support what I said. When I refreshed, expecting to see my post at the end of the site, this is the message I got:

    Olbermann Watch
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    Needless to say, my post is lost to me.

    J$ or R Cox, what happened?

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammie

    Do you have any idea how hard it is for people from the Mid East to come here legally now?

    Posted by: whatever at February 23, 2007 1:22 PM

    Then how come I can't even walk outside my door without tripping over a Pedro or Jose?
    And I'm from Alabama !
    We need to return this country to the people it belongs to : The white Christian Republican Hillbillies !

    I hear ya Jeff.
    Osama Obama Saddam Hussein needs to get real.
    You think us folks in the south will vote for a negro?
    Everyone down at our local Republican club gets a good laugh at that one !
    A negro president !
    Yikes !

    Jeff,
    "bk, next time you are out bouncin' your hydralics, drive by your local welfare office and take a peek inside, you will see at least 90% "hispanics" if not more. Then, if you have time, visit your local emergency room, same thing again."

    A racist lie. Most people on Welfare are White!
    Most people in emegency room are White! Also California Mexicans drive Hydrolics, I'm a Floridian Cuban-Argentine. We drive Lexus's and laugh at trailer park losers like you in your stupid pickup and Confedarate Flags!

    It's attitudes from Republicans like you, that if Rudy isn't the GOP nominee, I will vote even for Hillary. Heck, the Democrats can run Mao I'll vote for him.

    Also answer me, why close the Mexican border, when Muslims come in from Canada. Also why do youn worked up over Mexicans and not Muslims. How many Mexicans did 9/11?

    M Schultz,
    I never have agreed with you, but on this issue. Me and you are on the same side. The point I was making is that our Immigration policy should benefit College educated Latin Americans.
    Great post Shultz.

    Jethro: You mean the South that got Barrack Obama elected??? Barrack Obama (D,Il) Il for Illinois, Jethro. Hah ha ha-ha ha ha-ha !!!

    "Then how come I can't even walk outside my door without tripping over a Pedro or Jose?"

    We drive Lexus's here in Florida while you btrailer park losers drive pick ups!
    Hey did you know, Hispanics are Christians. If it wasn't for us Hispanics you'd be Muslim.
    I bet your ignorant KKK loser ass wouldn't kbow that!

    Imagine both a negro and a broad running for president of the United States !
    What's this dagnamit world coming to !
    They're both communists !

    And they don't even understand that Jesus wants a president ( like our dear George Bush) to kill as many Arabs as possible.


    How do I know this ? Would Jesus have put so much sand and so little water where they live if he liked these people ?

    Nuff said !

    "Then how come I can't even walk outside my door without tripping over a Pedro or Jose?"

    "We drive Lexus's here in Florida" .

    So Joker, you a Mexican illegal immigrant ?

    Did they give you the Lexus when you crossed the border ?
    Wow !
    Tell me where and I'll dress up like Pepino and git me one.

    Thanks for the tip Joker.

    Jethro: Water is not that much of an issue, right now. All it takes for water are desalination plants. The desalination plants that the first world can provide. Now, if it was not for antiwarites distracting the U.S. from winning ... then we can get to the peace part of the operation ... but thanks to you sarcastic types ... we have to wait before we succeed to get to phase three of the opperation !!!

    Jethro,
    Hey Trailer loser. I'm Italian-Argentine/Cuban. I own my own business. I employ white traqsh like you!

    "Would Jesus have put so much sand and so little water where they live if he liked these people ?"

    Jesus was a Jew who was crucified by Romans(Latins). Ha ha!

    Jethro,
    Hey Trailer loser.


    Thanks for the compliment, Joker. I'd love a trailer. It would beat my drafty two room shack.

    Jesus was a Jew?
    You won't get to heaven with talk like that !
    Cee's going to have to put a good word in for you with God.He speaks to him directly, you know.

    ( Republicans don't like Jews, Joker)
    Get with the program !

    How about the hagings of Gays and stoning of Women? Wow you Lefties are really Pro-Iran!

    Jethro: Water is not that much of an issue, right now. All it takes for water are desalination plants.


    That desalin....what you said.
    Is that like a well ?
    We got one of those.

    What's a haging ?

    You smart people are always using words I don't understand.

    Jethro,
    I'm not a Republican and I know Republicans. they are more Pro-Israel than you on the Left.

    Jethro,
    I'm not a Republican and I know Republicans. they are more Pro-Israel than you on the Left.

    Posted by: The Joker at February 23, 2007 5:02 PM

    If you think I'm on the left , Joker, you've been drinking too much moonshine.
    Joker, you seem almost as dumb as me !

    Silly --- desalination is where you take salt water and turn it into fresh water through fancy modern technology. Admit that you are a sarcastic liberal or conservative troll, and we can talk further about this, Jethro ...

    Jethro is a Lefty pertending to be a Conservative.

    A racist lie. Most people on Welfare are White!
    Most people in emegency room are White! Also California Mexicans drive Hydrolics, I'm a Floridian Cuban-Argentine. We drive Lexus's and laugh at trailer park losers like you in your stupid pickup and Confedarate Flags!

    So you came over illegally on a boat, now we know. Which is why you defend illegal immigration. More than likely, a landscaper. You are in serious denial to say that most people abusing the emergency rooms and welfare are white.

    You can tell a lot about a person by the people they hate...

    The Joker( Red Wolf) hasn't gotten any smarter just because he has a new name.

    OBAMA RIDICULE'S CHENEY'S COMMENTS :

    Obama, speaking at a massive outdoor rally in Austin, Texas, said British Prime Minister Tony Blair's decision this week to withdraw 1,600 troops is a recognition that Iraq's problems can't be solved militarily.

    "Now if Tony Blair can understand that, then why can't George Bush and Dick Cheney understand that?" Obama asked thousands of supporters who gathered in the rain to hear him. "In fact, Dick Cheney said this is all part of the plan (and) it was a good thing that Tony Blair was withdrawing, even as the administration is preparing to put 20,000 more of our young men and women in.

    "Now, keep in mind, this is the same guy that said we'd be greeted as liberators, the same guy that said that we're in the last throes. I'm sure he forecast sun today," Obama said to laughter from supporters holding campaign signs over their heads to keep dry. "When Dick Cheney says it's a good thing, you know that you've probably got some big problems."


    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahh

    I'm a Floridian Cuban-Argentine

    That's opposed to Cuba-Cuban.

    Jeff,
    "So you came over illegally on a boat, now we know. Which is why you defend illegal immigration. More than likely, a landscaper. You are in serious denial to say that most people abusing the emergency rooms and welfare are white."

    I was born in this country. Where were your ancestors from? Racist scum. You hate Hispanics who are Christian and fight in the US Army but stay silent on Muslims that ram olanes into buildings. You're an ignorant jerk. It's rascist like you that prevent me from becoming a Republican.

    "The Joker( Red Wolf) hasn't gotten any smarter just because he has a new name."
    I'M not Redwolf. Isn't Jeff Redwolf?

    "I'm a Floridian Cuban-Argentine
    That's opposed to Cuba-Cuban."

    My Dad is Cuban and my Mom is Italian-Argentine.

    6:36 P.M.'s post:

    a) I am losing respect for Barrack Obama ---

    b) Stop trying to dehumanize the Bush Administration. Antiwarites take hold of something that you would never think of doing. You all overreacted to this administration in a hatefull kind of envy for what great minds that they truly are ... v v v ...

    February 23, 2007

    Republican Rudy GiulianiIn a match-up between the early 2008 frontrunners, former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) leads New York Senator Hillary Clinton (D) 52% to 43%. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds Giuliani’s lead growing in recent months. His current nine-point advantage is up from a six point lead in January and a four-point lead in December.

    The Joker: In other words ... Rudy Giuliani is like the presidential version of T.V.'s Brit Hume --- Good for him. I always had respect for Brit Hume. Terrific guy.

    joker, I am Nez Perce and Cherokee, if it matters. You obviously don't read my posts very clear,or, at all. I am anything but silent on the muslim topic. Most of my posts are on that exact subject, that, and Ulbermahn. If I am a "racist scum", why do I hire mexican immigrants on a regular basis to work on my ranch? They must have a green card,though, that's the first thing I ask for. I have even had several black employees, imagine that? A "racist scum" like me, hiring blacks and mexicans! You have serious race issues, you should get some help.

    obama, we agree on something, again. Brit Hume. He is kinda boring, sometimes, but,straight foreward, hard hitting news, unlike orangy Ulbermahn!

    Jethro ignorantly posted....

    "Jesus was a Jew?
    You won't get to heaven with talk like that !
    Cee's going to have to put a good word in for you with God.He speaks to him directly, you know."

    Nice. This type of garbage was in great decline with the welcomed absences of Comic Book Store Guy (Buffalo), Sir Loin of Milquetoast, Coward Watch and OZ (Colbert). Too bad the religious bigotry had to return....it was refreshing not reading the hatred.

    I will turn the other cheek yet again, noting however, once again, that this is yet another example of the ease the radical left has in degenerating into anti-Semitic and anti-Christian hate....one flaw of many that will continue to limit their ability to appeal to clear-thinking, normal and decent people.

    I'll ask the types like Jethro again....

    Where's that toothless Senate resolution you all promised?

    and my fav request....

    Oh, and PLEEEEASE put up a McGovernesque candidate in '08....I will enjoy seeing the annihilation!

    cee
    "Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    Would you please find someone else blame the "redwolf" posts on? It's not me, for the last time!

    Jeff,
    You're Native american, so you have more right to this land than any of us! Let's just agree to disagree.
    I go over the top sometimes and feel bad for what I said. I apologize to you.
    Let's get back to combatting loons!

    joker, I don't feel I have more right to this land than other Americans, but, I accept your apology, back atcha.

    Would you please find someone else blame the "redwolf" posts on? It's not me, for the last time!
    Posted by: jeff at February 23, 2007 8:38 PM

    Jeff, Coward has been calling anyone who exposes him as a pot smoking socialist as me. All he does is make excuses for the enemy and defend Islam. He must be facing Mecka right now saying prayers to the terrorists.

    For crying out loud, make up your mind! Is Coward a "pot smoking socialist", or is he a "muslem sympathyzer"? He can't be both. They execute pot smokers.

    Coward reminds me of the Red Wolf, they both were converted to Islam while in jail.

    Cee, glad to see you back. Hope you enjoyed your vacation.

    Janet Hawkins
    AKA Grammi

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