Why in the hell does Fox allow Olbermann to air footage?

Olby has a stagehand who chortles on cue, so he must think all shows need canned laughter just like his does.

YAY another comment on Bill O'Reilly! You can watch O'Reilly on Fox OR on MSNBC now, he's on everywhere.

Olbermann has so many clips of Fox shows every night it makes me wonder how many people he's got watching Fox News and Fox TV...it must make up a good 1% or so of the Fox audience....it in itself being triple of Keith's audience every night. poor Olby :(

Yes, poor, "poor Olby". He's just signed that pesky new contract thats gonna take up ALL his free time now, but on the other hand, he can afford a lot more baseball cards now.

Look - a shout out video to Olby's BFF Mamoud Ahmedinejad. You knew it had to happen.

Olby's one to ask someone to get facts straight.

keif is right saddam is not hitler because we took him out before he killed millions like hitler thanks to the leadership of people like Condi and Bush.

So Condi Rice comparing Saddam to Hitler is beyond the pale, but comparing Bush to Hitler is OK? Whatever you say Keith...

Yes you swine you've figured me out. I planned to run tons of Fox News clips and try to catch people channel surfing.

It's all about ratings you know.

He said "that pathetic holocaust denier Ahmedinejad". Are you Olby haters going to come out now and deny that he said that?

Look - a shout out video to Olby's BFF Mamoud Ahmedinejad. You knew it had to happen.

Posted by: at February 26, 2007 8:55 PM

er...I believe he referred to Ahmadinjad as a "pathetic holocaust denier" - that's a "shout-out?"

"So Condi Rice comparing Saddam to Hitler is beyond the pale, but comparing Bush to Hitler is OK? "

Bingo.

According to KO, we live under a form of fascism in America.

That's okay to say.

But Rice comparing Saddam to Hitler is just not acceptable discourse.

Bush = fascist is okay
Saddam = fascist is not okay.

"I'm not politically biased" - Keith Olbermann on The Dan Patrick Show

"I'm a liberal" - Keith Olbermann on The Dan Patrick Show... one week later.

What a hoot.

"that pathetic holocaust denier Ahmedinejad".

Pathetic?

He uses adjectives for Bush such as liar, fraud, the leader of a "form of fascism", et cetera.

But Mahmoud just gets pathetic?

SLoB, Olby knows we're onto him and his Al Jazeera lovefests. He can't let those millions of new fans he's gotten in the last week of his latest media blitz (not) to know he's an Islamosymp.

Wow! Almost quarter after nine and Johnny has not posted yet. Was tonights show so bad he had to go throw up?

When Johnny thinks the show was 'bad', that means it was good.

So--the Orange dope --whom we all knows hates Jews and calls them "MONKEYS"--now demands that Blacks show their bobna fides --while he never asks whites to prove their level of education. Lets see--Dr. Rice-who while growing up in the solid democrat south--in Birmingham--where democrats killed some of her childhood little friends by tourching a black church--managed to rise above the decades long inbreed democrat hate of blacks to enroll for her undergrad education at the age of 15--and went on to earn her Masters and PHD--as well as becoming a concert grade performer on the piano--oh and she also become a provost at Stanford.
What did the orange a--hole do again? Hmm--lets see---the orange putz went to an all white private school --where the little schmuck played no sports--ever--but some how "wrote" a book on coaches--agaion--despite having never played on a team.Then tjhe orange dope was packed off by Mommy and daddy to Cornell--where he played no sports--and majored in communications-----communications--the major for morons and dullards--perfect for the dope that is Olbytard.
Fast foward , Olbytan is busy sniffing jock straps and showing his boy crush for all things Bill Clinton and democrat. Yup, nothing makes one an expert on history then having a flock of interns look up Lou Brock's OBP. Forgive me, but the day the orange putz starts to lecture a brilliant woman like Dr. Rice--is the day I leave the planet. Oh wait----since Dr. Rice is a woman , and black---the all powerful tan can question her and call her pathetic names--and demands that she prooves her bona fides--you know like he refers to jewish journalists as monkeys---and show her many , many degrees. Disgusting----and this filthy Jew hating --anti-black--anti-women retard is the best MS-LSD can do?What a disgrace--NBC should be disgraced by this hate filled moron.

Well, I noticed Olby didn't call Mamoud a threat to Israel and the US, which is what he and his government really are. That would have been a lot more powerful statement to make, wouldn't it?

Condi Rice has a PhD
Krazy Keith has some hack degree
Their IQs much differ
The failed jocksniffer
Needs a lesson in history

Rice has a "Ph.D" in "International Studies" ... they really shouldn't hand out doctorates to non technical fields.

I liked the episode. Olby clearly has a better grasp on history than Rice's speech writers. Those of you hating... eh, whatever.

Wow, Olby actually said something negative about Pres. Tom. Are all the olbyloons going to jump on the band wagon after all this time they have been so feverishly defending him?

This is the third to last chat, quite possibly. Are we going to make it good?

Jeff/Redwolf,
Tonight Olbermann exposed the Klan Republican culture. The Republicans supported Hitler. Today the the Right is the spawn of the Klan and the Nazis.

Krazy Keith's been caught in a lie
It's a fact that he can't deny
"I'm neutral" on Sunday
"I'm liberal" on Monday
(But he's not a political guy)

"Today the the Right is the spawn of the Klan and the Nazis."

Don't forget they hate Santa Claus too.

And they're not too keen on the Easter Bunny.

Neocon bastards, all of 'em.

Anonymous 10:12: Atleast conservatives are not out there trying to desacrify the Son of God.

"Atleast conservatives are not out there trying to desacrify the Son of God"

Umm, you don't think my 10:12 post was serious?

Santa Claus? Easter Bunny?

I was responding to the knucklehead at 10:01.

Oy.

I am just so amazed that some person out there is trying to hoax the world that they have Jesus' remains.That box looks totally clean and not ancient. The text is nice and straight across. The whol entire deal seems suspicious for me.

yeah Keith got a new contract, but what's that do for his ratings? sometimes Nancy Grace still beats him!

Olby ended up in 3rd place again, this did not surprise me.

What has shocked me was how bad Mathews tanked Fri. night.

And with postings such as from C.W. we know where the way out there fringe crowd that use to watch Mathews went.

I can't wait til the day Olby trys to sneak a Krazy Komment on 'the N.B.C. Nightly News.' It will be the first time in History that 'The Nightly News' gets ratings worse then a rerun of 'Bernie Mac'.

Obama Watch Us Bicker, what happened to "in Technicolor"?

Johnny Dollar: I am thinking of leaving "Technicolor" out of my name because the first part of my name is called "Obama" and I do not want it to seem like race is being brought up. The 2nd word is "color" in "Technicolor".

little billy,
According to conservatives, blacks only get where they are due to affirmatiive action. It's funny how no black conservatives (all 5) ever benefited from affirmative action.
There are still many registered Democrats in the South who vote for Republicans. Strom Thurmond was a Democrat. Trent Lott worked for a Democrat and, I believe, was registered as one. The point is: The "Democrats" were conservatives who left the party or began voting for Republicans after the Democratic Party passed civil rights legislation in the 1960's. The Republicans who voted for said legislation were liberals, largely from the Northeast.
Having a Ph.D. doesn't change facts. The Marshall Plan existed, despite Rice's opinion. Germany declared war on us, despite Rice's opinion.

"The secretary's resume reads that she has a master's degree and a Ph.D in political science. The interviewer should have demanded to see them, on the spot."

Does Keith ask everybody for resumes or just Black Republican women.

Obama Watch,

"Obama Watch" sounds a little "dicey", even without the Technicolor part. Why are you watching him? That could be construed as racism. And while we are at it, what the heck does "Obama Watch" even mean? I always wondered.

Ha --- Keith Olbermann called Tammy Bruce a "fake" liberal (before the sound fx went off) !!!!! Take that, Tammy Bruce !!!!!

Obama,
Is tammy Bruce supposed to be a liberal? The O'Loofah master called her one but her last 2 or 3 books have attacked liberals.

Rico: I am on Barrack Obama's side for president (so far.) I mean no disrespect or indignity. Just that I used to call myself "Olbermann Watch [Us Bicker]" to try to support Mann, but ever since Keith Olbermann insulted Geraldo names after he lost his job I decided that there was no way that I could support Ol' Big Macc. Perhaps I will change my name throughout tonight into obvious connotations.

Well after reading the 'Krazy Komment'. Let's look at this in a logical way.
(Camera Pivot)

Olby said what he said and for the moment let's give him all credit for what he has just said.
(Camera Pivot)

Will he call her out and demand she come on the show and answer these accusations?
(Camera Pivot)

And when she does not, will Keith then tell the world that she has refused to come on the show there by making herself everything Olby has accused her of?
(Camera Pivot)

The answer to both questions is no!
(Camera Twist)

Say he was to demand she come on, and she did. It would be a bad toupe day for our boy Olby.
(Camera Twist)

You see after the first exchange, Olby would stutter, and get the deer in the headlights look.
(Camera Twist) (I'm getting dizzy)

You see telepromters don't give multiple choice.
( Throw the papers up in the air.)

Colbert: Tammy Bruce is not to be taken seriously. If she wants back in to the club --- I suggest that she act like one of a kind rather than taunting them o "The Factor with Bill O' Rielly."

little billy,
According to conservatives, blacks only get where they are due to affirmatiive action. It's funny how no black conservatives (all 5) ever benefited from affirmative action.
There are still many registered Democrats in the South who vote for Republicans. Strom Thurmond was a Democrat. Trent Lott worked for a Democrat and, I believe, was registered as one. The point is: The "Democrats" were conservatives who left the party or began voting for Republicans after the Democratic Party passed civil rights legislation in the 1960's. The Republicans who voted for said legislation were liberals, largely from the Northeast.
Having a Ph.D. doesn't change facts. The Marshall Plan existed, despite Rice's opinion. Germany declared war on us, despite Rice's opinion.

Posted by: Colbert at February 26, 2007 10:32 PM

This a very hypocritical post, the blacks vote democrat, but, ever wonder why the dems are known for hiring the least blacks (if any) to work for them? Bill Clinton (0) John Kerry (0) KKK Byrd (0) and on and on......

This is the first Special Comment that is not of Bush that I know of. Maybe he is trying to spice his next book a little ...

Rico: I am on Barrack Obama's side for president (so far.) I mean no disrespect or indignity. Just that I used to call myself "Olbermann Watch [Us Bicker]" to try to support Mann, but ever since Keith Olbermann insulted Geraldo names after he lost his job I decided that there was no way that I could support Ol' Big Macc. Perhaps I will change my name throughout tonight into obvious connotations.

Posted by: Obama Watch Us Bicker at February 26, 2007 10:47 PM

Obama, just the other day you were ditching obama, should I go back and find the post?

"sometimes Nancy Grace still beats him!"

As soon as Anna Nicole is buried Grace will sink again in the ratings. That is until the next pretty blonde dies or goes missing. Americans love tabloid crap. It disappoints me, but you have to accept it. Hell, O'Reilly's career has been a National Enquirer story for those that can't read.

Do what you think will make the world a better place for us all to live and thrive in :-)

"You've been on Fox News Sunday, Secretary Rice. The Fox network has got another show premiering Tuesday night. You could go on that one, too. It might be a better fit. It's called "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth Grader?"

"But Secretary of State Rice may have now taken the cake. On the Sunday morning interview show "Of Broken Record" on Fox, Dr. Rice spoke a paragraph, which if it had been included in a remedial history paper at the weakest high school in the nation would've gotten the writer an "F" — maybe an expulsion."

"The secretary's resume reads that she has a master's degree and a Ph.D in political science. The interviewer should have demanded to see them, on the spot."

"Dr. Rice spoke 42 words. She may have made more mistakes in them than did the president in his State of the Union Address in 2003."

"Get your facts straight. Use the Google!"

The personal insults toward Dr. Rice in the special comment are a true sign of Keith journalistic standards. Basically the special comment was to call Dr. Rice stupid without saying the word stupid. Now if Olbermann would have the balls to actually say these things to Rice face to face.

Jeff/Redwolf,
Tonight Olbermann exposed the Klan Republican culture. The Republicans supported Hitler. Today the the Right is the spawn of the Klan and the Nazis.

Posted by: Coward Watch at February 26, 2007 10:01 PM

Is this the only thing you can come up with day after day you loony toon? Don't you have a black panther meeting to go to?

We already know about her suggestion that the president could just ignore whatever congressional Democrats do about Iraq.

Just ignore Congress.

We know how that game always turns out. Ask President Nixon. Ask President Andrew Johnson.

so says the great and well limp writed olbytan
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So in Olbytan land--Congress is the be all and end all---and what Congress says--the President MUST obey----funny--when Congress impeached the olbytard's boy crush--Bill Clinto0n--we were treated by night after night of olbytan tantrums on the horror of Congress's crimes against his boy crush Clintton.Like everything else olbytan does----his special ed comments are sloppy-unsupported by the dfacts--and frankly childish.

Billy: You should see how Great Britain works ...

his special ed comments are sloppy-unsupported by the dfacts--and frankly childish.

Posted by: billy at February 26, 2007 11:02 PM

What's not factual in Keith's SPecial Comment?
Only the truth.
Scary isn't it ?
Fool !

"Hell, O'Reilly's career has been a National Enquirer "

As opposed to KO's illustrious "journalistic" career?

And aren't you the same poster who said that the overreaction by Boston officials and residents from the that fake bomb scare was an example of "wingnut cowardice"?

You do know that there are more Jews for David Duke than there are conservatives (or wingnuts) in the entire city of Boston?

Liberals run the entire place - from top to bottom.

O'Reilly's show is right wing bias. He has that conservative attack dog Rev. Al Sharpton then he has that right wing zealot, Charles Schumer on to promote his propaganda book. Thank God Olby has a fair and balanced show with prospective from both political parties.

little billy,
Why do you always post anonymously after anyone responds critically to you?
Try looking up the definition of hypocritical.

"The blacks vote democrat" but Republicans are better for blacks? Is that your point? Are you trying to claim, as other conservatives do, that blacks don't know what's good for them? That attitude isn't racist at all, I guess.

Do you have any idea how many people Bill Clinton hired, simpleton? Because you can only name one or two blacks hired for high-profile jobs (with your fifth-grade education you probably can't name any) doesn't mean he didn't hire any blacks.

Dick Morris tells me that Hussain Obama has less than half of the black population supporting him. Kind of ironic, huh?

"doesn't mean he didn't hire any blacks."

Okay, which black Americans did Clinton appoint to his Administration?

Executive branch only.

The personal insults toward Dr. Rice in the special comment are a true sign of Keith journalistic standards. Basically the special comment was to call Dr. Rice stupid without saying the word stupid. Now if Olbermann would have the balls to actually say these things to Rice face to face.

Posted by: at February 26, 2007 10:59 PM

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Would you like to see what happens when an insulter comes mind to mind with somebody that has been insulted the day after the attacking? Listen to Glenn Beck on air tommorow. He is going to have the guy that supposedly has Jesus' remains. Glenn Beck called this guy a number of crude things, and while I myself am in no way happy with somebody making these kinds of claims ... I would not go as far as to make vitriol upon this person and if I were to make those kinds of remarks, at the very least, I would reflect this during interview. Glenn Beck is going to be the sweetest kindest little guy ever to walk on soil after the hatefest that he went on at during his television program. Watch and see.

"Listen to Glenn Beck on air tommorow. "

Geez, every time - EVERY TIME - someone points out a transgression by KO the liberal response is to change the topic.

"But what about this guy?..........

You can't defend this guy. He's a joke.

News anchor my butt.

colbert, can't you libs come up with something better than "simpleton?" How old is that? Have a meeting, come up with something better, original.

Bubba hired Betty Currie for an executive branch position.

11:13: You missed my point. I was not trying to say that Keith Olbermann is any different than Glenn Beck is. What I am trying to say is that Keith Olbermann would get all nice-nice with Condoleeza Rice if he were to go on air to make comments. Glenn Beck is just one example of a universal attitude. Obvious.

"Bubba hired Betty Currie for an executive branch position"

Hah, she was his personal secretary.

She was his secretary when he was governor.

And what policy decisions she did help make?

Hmmm?

I wonder when Olby will start calling Jesus "The Mythical Figure" like he calls Rush the "Comedian" Rush Limbaugh. We all know Mohammad is Olby's favorite profit.

"And what policy decisions she did help make?"

Oy, I need my own secretary to edit my posts!

"Listen to Glenn Beck on air tommorow. "

The libs hate anyone that exposes them for what they really are, i.e. O'Reilly, Hannity, Rush and especially Savage.

little billy @11:10,
When you learn to read at a fifth-grade level, you'll realize how incredibly stupid you are.

Bubba hired Betty Currie for an executive branch position.

Posted by: Rico at February 26, 2007 11:15 PM

This is the best you can do? Dems don't hire blacks, they give them welfare for in exchange for their vote.

"When you learn to read at a fifth-grade level, you'll realize how incredibly stupid you are."

In other words, you can't answer my question.

Ad hominem is the last refuge of a person who loses an argument.

In your case, the first refuge.

Betty gave good testimony.

little billy @11:10,
When you learn to read at a fifth-grade level, you'll realize how incredibly stupid you are.

Posted by: Colbert at February 26, 2007 11:19 PM

Hey, you have 2 words in your vocabulary-simpleton and stupid! What is your word for tomorrow?

If O' Rielly, Hannity, Rush, and Savage know anything about liberals, then Al Franken, Randi Rhodes, Thom Hartmann, and Mike Malloy knows everything about conservatives.

If O' Rielly, Hannity, Rush, and Savage know anything about liberals, then Al Franken, Randi Rhodes, Thom Hartmann, and Mike Malloy knows everything about conservatives.

Posted by: Thom Hartmann Watch Us Bicker at February 26, 2007 11:23 PM

Let me see, Al Freakshow's show is bankrupt and the other one's are total nobody's. Very good. Not.

"You do know that there are more Jews for David Duke than there are conservatives (or wingnuts) in the entire city of Boston?"

Evidently you never stepped foot in Boston. Up until a few years ago I thought that Beantown must be a soft place since Mass continually voted in Ted Kennedy to represent them. When my job had me traveling to the Northeast I had a change of opinion. Go to a Red Sox or Bruins game. If you look at 1/2 those fans funny you'll be swallowing your teeth. And if you really want to find out how "pussy" they are I suggest you wear a Yankee cap. There is a noticeable disconnect in Boston between the academic types and the many blue collar folks that make up the metro area.

"Okay, which black Americans did Clinton appoint
to his Administration?"

If you're trying to make the case that Bush is sympathetic/fair to minorities let me remind you of Hurricane Katrina. He didn't give a damn that his own citizens were stranded without food or water. I wonder how he would have handled it had the wealthy suburbs of Houston been in similar circumstances? If you're alluding to Clinton not doing much for minorities then I agree with you. As a black man, I saw first hand that Clinton offered little more than lip service. The same ghettos exist through the Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, and Bush Jr. administrations (I'm 34, so my political memory doesn't span past the Reagan years). Same sht, different prez.

G-nite.

Betty gave good testimony.

Posted by: Rico at February 26, 2007 11:21 PM

lol, this is good, rico gets a humor point.

I do not care if the rest of them are not very good. I love the way that some right wing bloviators (especially Rush Limbaugh) have taken time out of their busy schedules to tell a party that they do not like what they themselves think and believe, and what their goals are and where their faults lie. I also do not like it when Air America does this, but Air America is a direct defense to this kind of onslaught against the opposite party that should not have been nearly this bad in the first place.

little billy,
I didn't realize you need things explained to you like a child does. Do you have any idea how many people the President hires/nominates? The Senate approves or appoints people the President nominates. It'd take forever to put together a list of all the people hired by President Clinton throughout his career and list their races.

little billy,
According to conservatives, blacks only get where they are due to affirmatiive action. It's funny how no black conservatives (all 5) ever benefited from affirmative action.

Posted by: Colbert
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Yawn---really ?So lets see--Dr.Rice--whom Olbytan's democrat party---would have loved to fire bomb in her church along with her four little friends----got where she did thanks to affirmative action? Sure----but that's the democrat p[arty line--blacks are dolts and must be led by the hand--by liberal democrats ---of course these same liberal democrats would never live in the same area as Dr.Rice --affirmative action is nice and all--but for a liberal dem--the east side is only for fellow liberlas--err fellow white liberals--no blacks allowed--unless they are the help of course--and paid way below minimum wage.

There are still many registered Democrats in the South who vote for Republicans. Strom Thurmond was a Democrat.
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Really? And when did they vote for the GOP?Sure as hell was not in the 60's when the democrat south was busy killing litle black girls like Dr.Rice's friends in fire bombings. But tghen far left libs like you and olbytan know all about being black--in fact olbytan knows more then Dr.Rice .Oh wait--no he does not---he's a dolt--a typical lib who talks a good game--but can't get the facts right. Trust me my little lefty pal---you and krazy Olbytan should keep to calling Jews "monkeys" and calling for what amounts to a poll tax ( you filthy Jim Crow dems do love a poll tax--as well as a lynching party or a church fire bombing--as long as the victims are blacks and helpless)--leave the big thinking to say----err--why Dr. Rice .
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The point is: The "Democrats" were conservatives who left the party or began voting for Republicans after the Democratic Party passed civil rights legislation in the 1960's. The Republicans who voted for said legislation were liberals, largely from the Northeast.
Having a Ph.D. doesn't change facts. The Marshall Plan existed, despite Rice's opinion. Germany declared war on us, despite Rice's opinion.

Posted by: Colbert

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Nice try---but the facts say otherwise. The dems would never have passed the civil right s act--ever--why Olbytan's hero KKK Robert Bryd was sure as hell set against it--funny---when will olbytan have a special ed comment on KKK Bryd? Oh wait---thaty would paint the far left in a bad light--and crazy Keith would rather take off his bad wig then do that-silly me.Conservative democrats? Spare me----the GOP passed civil rights--the dems had noit a damned thing to do with it. But that's the history of tyhe democrtat party--sure they love nothing more then slabery--or lynching--but giving blacks civil rights??Why to a far left dem---that's akin to the building co-op board voting yes to allowimg a black person to buy into the building.

Having a Ph.D. doesn't change facts. The Marshall Plan existed, despite Rice's opinion. Germany declared war on us, despite Rice's opinion.

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sigh----Colbert is the product of a NYC education--liberal--and as useful. The Marshall plan existed? Ok----and could the orange putz--or you give chapter and verse on what the plan was? Of course not--like the orange putz --you got the nake from google---and have no understanding of the history--or evenm when the plan went into effect. As Dr. Rice said---the US Congress decleared war on Germay--after they decleared war on the us, and in 2003--the Congress gave the President the authourity to use force in Iraq. Dr. Rice quite rightly said wjhere does Congress have the power to take back a decleration of war--and if the current congress led by a far, left radical junta--has it's way--it would be akin to the post ww 2 congress resinding the 41' DoW.Morons like you and olbytan simply can't grasp that comoplecated concept--and thus have to resprt to using silly and wrong arguments like the Marshall plan.And yes--having a PHD does not chanmge the facts--but it allows one to learn them. Unlike Dr. Rice--olbytard and the facts have never met.

Tonight’s worst person in the world is The Mythical Figure Jesus Christ for being discovered as a fraud and a phony by archaeologist James Cameron who found some old bones in a tomb that must be those of Jesus because they are 2000 years old. For deceiving billions and taking praise away from the true profit Mohammad, Mythical figure Jesus Christ, you are the Worst Person in the Wooooorld. Great Thanks

If you're trying to make the case that Bush is sympathetic/fair to minorities let me remind you of Hurricane Katrina. He didn't give a damn that his own citizens were stranded without food or water. I wonder how he would have handled it had the wealthy suburbs of Houston been in similar circumstances? If you're alluding to Clinton not doing much for minorities then I agree with you. As a black man, I saw first hand that Clinton offered little more than lip service. The same ghettos exist through the Reagan, Bush Sr., Clinton, and Bush Jr. administrations (I'm 34, so my political memory doesn't span past the Reagan years). Same sht, different prez.

G-nite.

Posted by: indierik at February 26, 2007 11:29 PM

I would run from this comment ,too, good choice. Louisiana is a prime example that liberalism does not work. Anyone that sat on their thumbs waiting for the gov't to save them is sadly lacking, to say the least.

Well let's see Olby has the same old, same old. And plays school yard bully with a woman.

Of course if she comes anywhere near the M.S.N.B.C. building. Our fearless leader will catch the next Metroliner to Tampa.

While what's this over on O'Reilly tonight?

Al Sharpton?

Chuck Schumer?

Forget conservatives! When was the last time you saw Al or Chuck on Olby?

Never?

Well, Chuck knows where the ratings are.

And the funny thing is O'Reilly was joking with Schumer calling him a conservative and Chuck was saying he's a liberal.

Wait, Olby said he was a liberal. And Chuck said he was a liberal. Oh! it's thats ratings thing.

Chuck knows where the crowd is, And O'Reilly even said for everybody to buy Chuck's Book.

Chuck and Al better watch it! It's not right to cross the great and powerful Olby!!!!

They could end up on worse person.

Look what the School yard bully did to Oprah and Rice. Olby is rough and tough!!!!

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sigh----Colbert is the product of a NYC education--liberal--and as useful. The Marshall plan existed? Ok----and could the orange putz--or you give chapter and verse on what the plan was? Of course not--like the orange putz --you got the nake from google---and have no understanding of the history--or evenm when the plan went into effect. As Dr. Rice said---the US Congress decleared war on Germay--after they decleared war on the us, and in 2003--the Congress gave the President the authourity to use force in Iraq. Dr. Rice quite rightly said wjhere does Congress have the power to take back a decleration of war--and if the current congress led by a far, left radical junta--has it's way--it would be akin to the post ww 2 congress resinding the 41' DoW.Morons like you and olbytan simply can't grasp that comoplecated concept--and thus have to resprt to using silly and wrong arguments like the Marshall plan.And yes--having a PHD does not chanmge the facts--but it allows one to learn them. Unlike Dr. Rice--olbytard and the facts have never met.

Posted by: billy at February 26, 2007 11:32
I was going a different route, but, you beat me to it, Thanks Billy.

My man indiekirk writes:"

If you're trying to make the case that Bush is sympathetic/fair to minorities let me remind you of Hurricane Katrina. He didn't give a damn that his own citizens were stranded without food or water."

And don't forget he got Halliburton to blow up the levees too! Oh, don't forget he controlled the planes that slammed into the TwinTowers on 9/11 and warned the damn Jews so they could get out in time while everyone else died! Before his 4 years is up my lib main man Olby will expose all these secrets. Keep it real, bro!

Johnny "olbermann Jr" Dollar is at it again. The "slovenly political hack" he is.

"Dogs that did not bark: How many days of coverage did Fat Ass give to Ted Haggard? And yet not one minute of coverage to this. Lots of praise for Al Gore, but no mention whatsoever about these inconvenient truths. Rumblings of dissatisfaction in Iran. Tony Blair sends more troops to the war zone. And still Olbermahn spikes the news of a federal court ruling that proves him to be a slovenly political hack."

Political hack moment #1....First Ted Haggard was the president of the largest organization of evangelicals in the country who often held conversations with high ranking white house officials including the president and spent time using his political influence to advance anti-gay legislation all the time while he was doing meth and sleeping with a male prostitute Charles Rust-Tierney used to be the president of the Viginia chapter of the ACLU. While there is a story there since he worked against having internet filters at libraries, but you of course have to be the "slovenly political hack" you are and try to equate the two as some proof of a press bias or something. Wrong Olby Jr., wrong again. I will say what Charles Rust-Tierney is much worse than what Haggerty did. I don't think Haggerty did anything wrong except for being a hypocrite which is exactly why he got the press coverage. The press as well as the Amecian people always enjoy watching someone of power turn out to be a hypocrite. Of course he went to rehab and was changed in a month. Now that is just funny.

Political hack moment #2...As far as Al Gore goes, the interent is full of contradictions by him. Doesn't change the message though even if that makes him guilty of not following it to a T. You grabbed your source from Tennessee Center for Policy Research which claims to be non partisan but this is what they claim to be for "research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through free market policy solutions". In other words they are for anything against pro global warming cause that might interfere because solutions for global warming will no doubt cost companies money.

political hack moment #3...This is nothing new. Ahmadinejad is nothing more than a figurehead for that state and the Khamenei has in the past been critical of his words to the west. If you actually paid attention to the way that government works, then you would know this has been going on for awhile. Yes criticism of his domestic policies has not happened until now but is not suprising with criticism he has recieved in the past. So KO is covering this up because of...........? God I don't even know what point you are trying to make here.

political hack moment #4... Tony Blair sends more troops to Afghanistan. I like how you said "war zone" instead of Afghanistan. Kinda a cover up on your part. Maybe you thought some of the more ill informed readers here wouldn't check the link and assume Blair was back tracking on his withdrawl plans for Iraq. Also suprised you mentioned this one as this would seem like something KO would cover since it proves we still haven't sucessfully tamed Afghanistan yet. First we send more troops there and now Britian has to do the same. More proof that the idiots in this administration have done a terrible job on orchestrating our war on terror and our foreign policy in general.

political hack moment #5... Actually I think this is a story he needed to cover but you go on to say that him not covering makes him a political hack. I just point out 5 instances of you being a "slovenly political hack" and that was just in one paragraph of your writings. You might be one of the least intelligent politcal minds the internet blog world has ever known but that doesn't mean anything. You after all just a meaningless blogger like everyone else and blogging does not mean you actually have to be smart. You just need no life, an internet connection, and the ability to type. Nice work Olby Jr, nice work.

Mike..
I read this afternoon's back and forth with you and Cee.
He has truly a lopsided view of history.

Every Christian always did the right thing in his estimation.
He ignores the long history of hatred, racism and violence by Christians that hark back to the Crusades.
You just need to remember seminal incidents in history such as in Atlanta when that good Christian , Lester Maddox, stood in the doorway of his restaurant, "The Pickrick ", with a pick handle barring blacks from entering. When the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which required integration of public facilities, passed, he sold the restaurant rather than integrate it.

The image of Christian segregationist George Wallace blocking the entrance to the University of Alabama is one of the most recognized of all the images from the civil rights period.
George Wallace, another fine Christian that is probably one of Cee's heroes.

Right up to present day when we have another Christian, George Bush, who continues to exacerbate the violence and hatred in Iraq that are partly justifed by his so called Christian beliefs.
Cee loves to cherry pick his historical references and then bludgeons them with his arrogance and wrongheadedness towards anyone but Christians and republicans.
He is so totally a lost cause who has never learned a single thing about civil rights and peace marches.He discounts the "left's" influence on working towards and improving many of our darkest periods in our nation's history.Without the left, we'd probably still be fighting in Vietnam to this day. He's a revisionist that can only stir up frustration and pity with his backward views.
Belatedly I realized he is not worth my time. Instead of learning from someone as yourself, who has served and walked the walk, he continues to demonstrated his analness and myopic views of history and present day.

You just need no life, an internet connection, and the ability to type. Nice work Olby Jr, nice work.

Posted by: Dave at February 26, 2007 11:53 PM

You proved your own point in this remark. I rest my case...

> try to equate the two

Where did I equate the two? Don't go pulling an Olbermann and claiming I said something I didn't. I pointed out that liberal Olbermann did not cover the story. And he didn't.

> More proof that the idiots in this administration have done a terrible job

If you say so. But that doesn't change the fact that liberal Olbermann did NOT cover the story, does it?

> Actually I think this is a story he needed to cover

No, really? Then how do you explain his NOT covering it, after flogging the story with his slant (which the courts now find to have been an incorrect slant) night after night? How do you justify his refusing to report when one court decision reverses everything he had been telling his listeners for weeks?

I don't know how YOU explain it, but I explain it thusly: liberal Olbermann is a slovenly political hack.

Johnny Dollar: What Dave caught on you is not good for the third to last Olbermannwatch.com episode summary. Not happy.

In other words they are for anything against pro global warming cause that might interfere because solutions for global warming will no doubt cost companies money.

That's just not the truth.

"Green" policies can be very profitable.Many parts of Europe are adapting green policies and adding substantial capital to the local and federal budgets.
Just like the USA had to learn the hard way with the Japanese leading the way in quality and fuel efficient vehicles, America will be behind many other industrial nations with their green policies due to the backward views and poor leadership of George W. Bush.

According to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll,
opposition to Bush's plan to send an additional 21,500 troops to Iraq remained strong. Two in three Americans registered their disapproval, with 56 percent saying they strongly object.

The Post-ABC poll found that 53 percent of Americans favored setting a deadline for troop withdrawals. Among those who favored a deadline, 24 percent said they would like to see U.S. forces out within six months and 21 percent called for the withdrawals to be completed within a year.

This is the first time a Post-ABC News poll has found that a majority of Americans supported establishing such a timetable for withdrawal, which has long been resisted by the president.

The poll also registered a new low on the question of whether the Iraq war was worth fighting. Thirty-four percent responded that it was, while 64 percent said it was not -- 51 percent strongly. On this question, 51 percent of military veterans and 53 percent of veteran households said they strongly believe that the war was not worth fighting.

Approval of Bush's handling of the Iraq war remained near its all-time low. Thirty-one percent said they approved and 67 percent said they disapproved, a slight improvement from December, when 28 percent approved.

Bush also received negative marks on the campaign against terrorism (52 percent disapproved) and on his handling of the economy (55 percent disapproved).

"51 percent of military veterans and 53 percent of veteran households said they strongly believe that the war was not worth fighting."

That's just incredible and a real eye opener to all delusional right wing Olbyhaters.

Bob do "Green" policies mean building 4 mansions in Tennessee with the profits from your strip mine like Al Gore? Or taking private jets all over the world which pump out more CO2 than an SUV does in a year? Are these the same "Green" policy's that Russia, China, India, and South Korea don't follow?

> What Dave caught on you is not good

He didn't catch me on anything. I listed stories Olbermann didn't cover. Dave then claimed I was trying to "equate" this with that (he made that up), or that I should explain WHY KO didn't report something (why? Whatever the reason, the fact remains that he didn't report it), and makes various other arguments that all have one thing in common: they don't change the fact that liberal Olbermann deliberately didn't cover these stories. You may think he's right not to cover them, or you may not. But facts are facts, and you can draw your own conclusions about the types of stories liberal Olbermann doesn't cover (like court decisions that expose OlbySpin as not only irrational but legally wrong).

Sorry Bob,

But during the Clinton/Gore administration the 5,000 lb. SUV became the mainstay of the "auto" industry in America. Millions of liberal "soccor moms" purchased them, along with everybody else. And now the Japanese are building giant Titans, Land Cruisers, and Tundras. Guess they're learning from us again. What were Clinton and Gore doing while this was happening? Not much, really.

The main problem with "going green" is that it is just another reason to shut down America. Years ago the left wanted it done because it was "unfair" that we had so much more than others. Now it's "global warming". Different reason, same goal; in other words "stop us".

I don't want that to happen, and most of those Democratic soccor moms don't either. Europe and Japan are leading the way? No wonder, they have much less to lose than us.

Once again the Leftist go on their Bush sucks rant. Instead of trying to defend Teheran Ulbermahn, They bash Bush. I know bashing Bush is cool and hip.
So start Bushwatch. I'll join you in attcking him too. However Olbermann is the focus of this site. He's a liar who claims he's impartial.
He's Clinton Hack!

Should Al Gore bicycle to Europe and beyond?

You know nothing of Al Gore's personal investment and strong, correct beliefs and influence thruout the world.

And you bringing up countries that haven't begun "green" policies just makes them as bad as the USA.
I'm long past thinking the USA is the smartest and most just country in the world.
The facts just don't show it.

The totally lame Factor( and Rico) are still not onboard with and clinging to the ignorant and backward factions of society that still think global warming is a hoax.
You're a fool and all intelligent people everywhere who read your posts, know it.

little billy,
Here's an article concerning race and political leanings. A massive study showed Republicans are supported by white racists.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/29/AR2006012900642_pf.html

Do you remember the Southern Stategy of your Republicnas?

Let's check today's Republican Party. In June of 2005 the Senate passed a resolution apologizing for their failures to ban lynching. There were twenty senators who didn't co-sponsor or vote for the resolution. Nineteen of the twenty were Republicans.

Now onto 1965. You lied "the GOP passed civil rights--the dems had noit a damned thing to do with it." Let's check the vote.

Senate: 77–19

* Democrats: 47–17
* Republicans: 30–2

House: 333–85

* Democrats: 221–61
* Republicans: 112–24

Conference Report:

Senate: 79–18

* Democrats: 49–17
* Republicans: 30–1

House: 328–74

* Democrats: 217–54
* Republicans: 111–20

That appears to show the Democrats had a lot more to do with passage than the Republicans did. The President who submitted and signed the legislation was a Democrat (Lyndon Johnson).

Now a couple of quotes from Republicans:
"One amendment today said we could not sell guns to anybody under drug treatment. So does that mean that if you go into a black community you can't sell any guns to any black person?"
- Wyoming Rep. Barbara Cubin

"I want to say this about my state: When Strom Thurmond ran for president, we voted for him. We’re proud of it. And if the rest of the country had followed our lead, we wouldn’t have had all these problems over all these years, either," Lott.

Trust me. The last thing you want to do is argue race.

About WWII, maybe you should check your facts before I make you look like a fool on that too.

The main problem with "going green" is that it is just another reason to shut down America.
-Rico

There have been many posts by myself and I think, Bushkill, educating the uneducated as yourself on how "green" policies are not only profitable, but the wave of the future.
For you to make that comment just shows how little you know about the subject.

Bob,
Why doesn't Al Gore practice hwt he preaches. He rides in Private Jets and SUV's.

Al Gore is a great American.
Not to mention he's been correct about both the Iraq War and global warming right from the beginning.

About WWII, maybe you should check your facts before I make you look like a fool on that too.

Posted by: Colbert at February 27, 2007 12:31 AM

colby, I'll give you this, you get hammered and you get right back up again, like woozy. How long did it take you to do all that research?

I wonder if Bob's Green policies will keep him warm in the soup line when they collapse our economy. Liberal solution to capitalism is to make everyone miserable. Unless you are Al Gore or a Hollywood elitist.

Bob,

You forgot to even try to refute my points. That's a typical lefty ploy: when confronted with an argument you just "move on" while throwing out an insult or two.

Bob,
Why doesn't Al Gore practice hwt he preaches. He rides in Private Jets and SUV's.

Posted by: Rodan at February 27, 2007 12:36 AM

That's just plain stupid !

Al Gore does travel the world educating the masses about global warming.As I said before, should he bicycle to Europe ?

Using air travel is just a fact of life, plus he drives a hybrid, not an SUV, and he he uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film.

BTW,Al was responsible for the very first
"green" telecast of the Oscars in history.

So as usual, you Al Gore bashers have your heads up your ass.

Can anyone verify thr rumor Olbermann is part Lebanese-Shiite? He has a 2nd cousin who's a ranking member of hezzbollah!

"and he he uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film."

He still pollutes. He's another Rich Leftist hypocritw like Streisand and Soros!

Bob,

You forgot to even try to refute my points. That's a typical lefty ploy: when confronted with an argument you just "move on" while throwing out an insult or two.

Posted by: Rico at February 27, 2007 12:43 AM

Check my post from 12:34.

I'm not about to start an education seminar this late at night.
Do some research yourself for a change and see that "green" policies are anything but going to hamper our economy.
Talk to the governor of California who is already showing leadership in installing them.

Rico and the other RWer's are ALWAYS on the wrong side of every issue, from the Iraq War to global warming.

Al Gore does travel the world educating the masses about global warming.As I said before, should he bicycle to Europe ?

Using air travel is just a fact of life, plus he drives a hybrid, not an SUV, and he he uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film.

BTW,Al was responsible for the very first
"green" telecast of the Oscars in history.

So as usual, you Al Gore bashers have your heads up your ass.

Posted by: Bob at February 27, 2007 12:44 AM

As bad as Gorey looked last night I think he needs to do a little biking. He's starting to look like Elvis did in his last days.

"colby, I'll give you this, you get hammered and you get right back upo again, like woozy"

Jeffy, Your not even above stealing my lines, are you? I'm SO disappointed in you!

Colbert: I used that exact line on 'Jeff' just last week and here he is trying it on you. He must have liked it!

By the way Colbert, this 'Jeff' character is the same lost soul who actually stated the real Colbert of the comedy channel...is actually a conservative, and that 'liberals didn't understand that he is actually making fun of them".

He went nameless after people started playing with him (what else do you do with someone this deluded?).

He is also a Michael Savage fan, if you can believe that?

Since Olbermann is part Shiite Lebanese, Is it possible he funnels money to them.

The above comment was from Mutt.

He still pollutes. He's another Rich Leftist hypocritw like Streisand and Soros!

Posted by: Rodan at February 27, 2007 12:46 AM

Everyone pollutes to a lesser or greater degree.
But you are so full of hatred for Democrats and the left, it blinds you to the incredible service Al gore is providing the world.
He's already won an Academy Ward, and just might get the Nobel Peace Prize.
You and your failed leaders just make more problems in the world.
Al Gore is part of the solution.You and your president are part of the problem.

He went nameless after people started playing with him (what else do you do with someone this deluded?).

He is also a Michael Savage fan, if you can believe that?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:51 AM

This coming from someone who "changed" his name from "woogy" to "mutt" because he embarassed himself so many times, hammered again......

As bad as Gorey looked last night I think he needs to do a little biking. He's starting to look like Elvis did in his last days.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:49 AM

Al has put on a few pounds since he won the presidency in 2000.
But where Elvis was a drug addict, Gore is on top of the world right now.

Rico, Rodan, Factor,

“I firmly believe that the goal I laid out -- that Americans will use 20 percent less gasoline over the next 10 years -- is going to be achieved, and here's living proof of how we're going to get there,” Bush said, refering to hybrid vehicles.

“We're going to be driving our cars using all kinds of different fuels other than gasoline, and using batteries that will be able to be recharged in vehicles that don't have to look like golf carts.”

James Woolsey claims our money that pays for oil finances terrorism. Let's follow Bush's logic. You're either with us or with the terrorists. Oil money goes to terrorists. You people brag about paying our money for oil. That would make you with the terrorists, I believe.

"Al Gore is part of the solution.You and your president are part of the problem."

When Al Gore was VP, why didn't he do anything about Global Warming?
Al Gore Contributes to Global Warming by eating alot. Hre then has to relaes Fumes and Pollution out of his ass!
He's a hypocrite like all Rich Leftists!

Al has put on a few pounds since he won the presidency in 2000.
But where Elvis was a drug addict, Gore is on top of the world right now.

Posted by: bob at February 27, 2007 12:56 AM

cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo!

When Al Gore was VP, why didn't he do anything about Global Warming?
Al Gore Contributes to Global Warming by eating alot. Hre then has to relaes Fumes and Pollution out of his ass!
He's a hypocrite like all Rich Leftists!

Posted by: Rodan at February 27, 2007 12:57 AM

Don't forget woozy and bob, hypocrits, too.

they areen't rich, though

Colbert,
I actually favor Ethanol and Biofuels. It would be made here in the US and The terrorists would go broke. They then can become harmless carpet sellers and kill each other over Camels!

James Woolsey claims our money that pays for oil finances terrorism. Let's follow Bush's logic. You're either with us or with the terrorists. Oil money goes to terrorists. You people brag about paying our money for oil. That would make you with the terrorists, I believe.

Posted by: Colbert at February 27, 2007 12:57 AM

This is ny education? I think I hear your tire going flat on your unicycle.

No, Jeffy, you silly boy, I 'changed' my name from Woogy to Mutt just to make fun of you. Might as well, you're no challenge at all in a real debate.

Now you're stealing my lines and trying them on people smarter than you. I'm flattered!

This Rodan character really makes a fool out of himself.

Taking the name of the old Japanese Sci Fi flying bird doesn't help either.

BTW A VP doesn't have much power to create policy.
Gore's been educating the masses about global warming for 2 decades now.

What Rodan knows can be put on the head of a pin.

Nice spin, woozy, I mean bs.

woozy, I bet you are mad at Ulbermahn because he called pres tom "pathetic," your favorite pres of your fav country.

I don't really know who 'Ulbermahn' is, but I'm not really 'mad' at anyone that I think of at the moment.

Since the RWer's have so much misinformation about Al Gore, take a minute or two from this site and learn something about this great American.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore

Ulbermahn is Teheran Keith's Lebanese name. He's part Shiite and has 2nd cousin that's a bigwig in Hezzbollah.

"Gore's been educating the masses about global warming for 2 decades now."

Why didn't he educate Bill Clinton?

Al Gore has been vice president, has now won an Academy Award, is in the running for the Nobel Peace Prize and is writing a new book called "An Assault on Reason" that will be out in May.

And then there's George Bush, who doesn't even read books.

woozy, I think you have the record for saying "I don't know" more than anyone here.

Bob,
He's a rich phoney. He talks about global warming to make money. Why doesn't he tell you what happens after Global warming?
Care to guess what that is?

He's a fraud and one the biggest polluters around!

Bob,

You mean "unhinged" American.

We've had 6 ice ages, then, guess what, It warms up and the ice melts! News flash for all you idiots!

Ulbermahn and Gore are frauds!

Why didn't he educate Bill Clinton?

Posted by: Spatacus at February 27, 2007 1:20 AM

Information about global warming wasn't as prevalent as it is today.
Plus Bill Clinton could have done more for the environment IMO, but he did create some great clean air laws ( that Bush has dismantled)

But Bill is making up for it:

22 Cities Join Clinton Anti-Warming Effort

By Juliet Eilperin
Washington Post Staff Writer

Twenty-two of the world's largest cities announced yesterday that they will work together to limit their contributions to global warming in an effort led by former president Bill Clinton.

The Clinton Climate Initiative -- which will create an international consortium to bargain for cheaper energy-efficient products and share ideas on cutting greenhouse gas pollution -- includes Chicago, Los Angeles, Philadelphia and New York as well as Cairo, Delhi, London and Mexico City. While the group is not setting specific targets for reducing emissions, Clinton said he is confident the effort will both cut pollution and create jobs in the cities that contribute most to higher temperatures.

Bill Clinton is doing more as an ex-president than George Bush is doing as the current president.

Rico/Rodan/Redwolf,
You are full hate and vile for a great man. A giant of our times! Like the spawn of the KKK that you reared in a Kulture of hate and fear, can not understand this man's genious. Like a true inbred Hillbillie!

It gets warm, then it gets cold, warm, cold. Long before humans this was happening, nothing new. Easy enough? Kinda like abc'c for those of you that remember them.

Rico/Rodan/Redwolf,
You are full hate and vile for a great man. A giant of our times! Like the spawn of the KKK that you reared in a Kulture of hate and fear, can not understand this man's genious. Like a true inbred Hillbillie!

By the way Jeffy, you're obviously SO proud of that email you sent to watchingolbermannwatch because he posted it for all to see. It kind of reminded me of a typical four year old that is SO proud of his latest drawing that he shows it to all the adults.

Now WHY do you think he did that Jeffy? Could it be that it sounded so childish and over the top that it does nothing to help your own cause? And that, in a nutshell, is what you accomplish every time you make a new post...you lock in that narrow minded stereotype of the misled and uninformed right winger follower just a little bit further. I thank you for doing that.

Bob,
He's a rich phoney. He talks about global warming to make money. Why doesn't he tell you what happens after Global warming?
Care to guess what that is?

He's a fraud and one the biggest polluters around!

Posted by: Spatacus at February 27, 2007 1:23 AM

You know nothing about AL Gore. He is anything but a phony, but what would you know.
Spar-up his ass obviously hasn't seen "An Inconvenient Truth" He tells you exactly what you claimed he doesn't.

It's funny. The less you know about a person, the more you trash him.

You're good with stereotypes.

Bill Clinton is doing more as an ex-president than George Bush is doing as the current president.

Posted by: Bob at February 27, 2007 1:29 AM

In your mind, bobby. Keep telling yourself that, by tomorrow, you will belive it! Oh, you already do, forgive me.

"Information about global warming wasn't as prevalent as it is today."

Yes there was. It's just since he was a Democrat the media didn't harp on it. He got a pass.

Hey what happens after Gloabl Warming Bob?
What does Global Warming lead to?
Answer please!

Bob,
Your a Leftwing hack. You're no different than a dittohead! A brainwashed fool that belive's his side is right no matter what!

woozy, ther you go, playing the "divert" card. I'd change the subject, too, if I was you. Is the "blame" card next? Or, "scapegoat?"

It gets warm, then it gets cold, warm, cold. Long before humans this was happening, nothing new. Easy enough? Kinda like abc'c for those of you that remember them.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 1:30 AM

A great thinker !
He knows more than the best 1500 scientists in 130 countries that have spoken on global warming at the recent Intercontinental Climate forum.

No wonder he doesn't sign his name.
I'd be embarrassed too.

Bob,
Your a Leftwing hack. You're no different than a dittohead! A brainwashed fool that belive's his side is right no matter what!

Posted by: Rodan at February 27, 2007 1:36 AM

Bob and woozy love to be punished. One in the same....

Bob,
Answer, what happens after Global Warming?
Let everyone know.

Hey what happens after Gloabl Warming Bob?
What does Global Warming lead to?
Answer please!

Posted by: Rodan at February 27, 2007 1:33 AM

Global warming( climate change) is a PROCESS that is already occurring that is leading to extinction of species and changing weather patterns thruout the globe.

You don't know this?
Cmon now.Really ?

Like I said, your posts lead us to to believe that you could fit everything you know on the head of a pin.

A great thinker !
He knows more than the best 1500 scientists in 130 countries that have spoken on global warming at the recent Intercontinental Climate forum.

No wonder he doesn't sign his name.
I'd be embarrassed too.

Posted by: bob at February 27, 2007 1:37 AM

boob, did you hear this in that science fiction movie? 1500? That's total bs. Global warming is left wing media hype, end of story. Are you denying that there have been 6 ice ages?

global warming=junk science

Bob,
Wrong answer. What your false money making Propher Gore doesn't tell you is that after an initial rise in temperatures, the Ice caps melt. With fresh water pouring into the Atlantic, the Jet stream slows down. When this happens temperatures collapse in the Northern Hemisphere.
An Ice Age arrives.
Hense Global Warming is just a myth. We are entering a New Ice Age.
Tell people the trutth!

boob, did you hear this in that science fiction movie? 1500? That's total bs. Global warming is left wing media hype, end of story. Are you denying that there have been 6 ice ages?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 1:41 AM

My last post before I retire.
You're really not up on current events are you.
This symposium took place last month as I reported.
The best 1500 scientists from 130 countries concluded that global warming is occurring and there is a 90% probability that man is creating it.
But what would the best scientists in the world know when they have such astute scientists right here at the OW watch like no Name , Factor and Rodan.
Ha !

Bob has no clue that the s.pole is actually building ice, while the n. pole is ever so slightly melting. Gorey forgot to put that in his science movie!

science fiction movie

Someone needs to tell Olbermann that Saddam Hussien was actually RELATED TO A NAZI...HIS UNCLE WAS A CARD CARRYING MEMBER!

Sure Condi Rice did a lousy job explaining the situation on Fox she could have used a different comparasion...However consider the following facts.

In the 1940's several muslims took their allegence to Germany because of their hatred for the Jews as well and because the British still had some control in the middle east. SADDAMS' UNCLE WAS ONE OF THEM!

THEY ARE CALLED ISLAM-O-FASCISTS FOR A REASON! IT'S LITERAL! THEY WANT TO CONVERT YOU TO THEIR INTERPRETATION OF ISLAM OR KILL YOU...SOUNDS PRETTY FASCISTIC TO ME.

SADDAM KILLED OVER 300,000 PEOPLE MAYBE EVEN OVER A MILLION...HOW DOES THAT NOT MAKE HIM HITLER LIKE? Sure he didn't kill over 6 Million...but now that Saddam is dead his death toll ends there.

KEITH ALSO WENT OFF THE DEEP END TODAY BY SAYING BUSH IS FINANCING AL-QAIDA!!!

JUST CHANGE THE NAME OF THE SHOW TO "THE MOVEON.ORG HOUR" BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE GETS HIS INFO!

AND WHY DOES HE ALWAYS KEEP MAKING BILL O REILLY WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD? Sure Bill can be a jerk sometimes but O' Reilly in Olby's mind is WORSE THAN: BIN LADEN, KIM ILL, HAMAS, THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN ETC. !?

TALK ABOUT WTF!?

Hense Global Warming is just a myth. We are entering a New Ice Age.
Tell people the trutth!

Posted by: Rodan at February 27, 2007 1:44 AM\

Global warming doesn't ONLY mean some parts of the world warm up, it also means some parts cool down. Climate change is throwing the earth off balance.

Only the braindead right wingers are the global warming deniers.
Christ, even Bill Oreiily called you idiots for your global warming views.

The battle lines are drawn.
It's the educated vs. the uneducated.
You lose again.
This isn't even a debate anylonger. The world is moving ahead with policies that will improve the conditions that are damaging our planet.
We don't need your moronic views on this.

let's see a show of hands who have ACTUALLY SEEN An Inconvenient Truth"

The ones who talk the most obviously have no idea what they are talking about.

Hey guys News flash:
Even Bush and his scientists had to concede that global warming is happening.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So you idiots are all out on a limb by yourself on this issue.

Jeffy, since you just accused me of 'diverting', what exactly have I 'diverted' from?

In case you haven't noticed, I'm not even involved in this "Global warming - Al Gore" conversation, although I see you are desperately trying to inject me into it.

We don't need your moronic views on this.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 1:50 AM

Practice what you preach!

Aaron!

You sound SO angry. Take a chill pill and calm down a little and you'll feel better.

So you idiots are all out on a limb by yourself on this issue.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 1:53 AM

Notice in any discussion on TV you never see the global warming deniers appear.
It's easy to hide behind a right wing blog or web site but the light of day makes them hide in the shadows.

The best scientists in the world on one side>>>>>
and Rodan and a few right wing nuts on the other.

Let me see who do you think is correct ?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

It appears the ones who are putting down Gore's movie haven't actually SEEN IT.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

One of the reasons the wingnuts put down Gore and are global warming deniers( I bet they don't say it in public) is b/c Gore is a democrat, and they hate democrats.

On the other hand, we've had 6 years of a totally ineffective GOP Congress and that many years of incompetence and failures with this president.

They are part of the 28% of Americans who can't accept reality.

With fresh water pouring into the Atlantic, the Jet stream slows down. When this happens temperatures collapse in the Northern Hemisphere.
An Ice Age arrives.
Hense Global Warming is just a myth. We are entering a New Ice Age.
Tell people the trutth!
Posted by: Rodan at February 27, 2007 1:44 AM
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Hey Rodny, get a clue you idiot. You are talking about a cycle brought on by sun cycles. When it is brought on in the wrong part of that cycle the return to cold does not happen while the earth continues to warm from having both the warm end of the sun cycle with man made greenhouse effect.

You sound exactly like an evolution expert who asks why we don't see apes evolving right before our eyes so evolution is false.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

I would pay money just to get one swing at his smug face. I think Keith needs a good old fashion ass kicking.

Someone needs to tell Olbermann that Saddam Hussien was actually RELATED TO A NAZI...HIS UNCLE WAS A CARD CARRYING MEMBER!

Sure Condi Rice did a lousy job explaining the situation on Fox she could have used a different comparasion...However consider the following facts.

In the 1940's several muslims took their allegence to Germany because of their hatred for the Jews as well and because the British still had some control in the middle east. SADDAMS' UNCLE WAS ONE OF THEM!

THEY ARE CALLED ISLAM-O-FASCISTS FOR A REASON! IT'S LITERAL! THEY WANT TO CONVERT YOU TO THEIR INTERPRETATION OF ISLAM OR KILL YOU...SOUNDS PRETTY FASCISTIC TO ME.

SADDAM KILLED OVER 300,000 PEOPLE MAYBE EVEN OVER A MILLION...HOW DOES THAT NOT MAKE HIM HITLER LIKE? Sure he didn't kill over 6 Million...but now that Saddam is dead his death toll ends there.

KEITH ALSO WENT OFF THE DEEP END TODAY BY SAYING BUSH IS FINANCING AL-QAIDA!!!

JUST CHANGE THE NAME OF THE SHOW TO "THE MOVEON.ORG HOUR" BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE HE GETS HIS INFO!

AND WHY DOES HE ALWAYS KEEP MAKING BILL O REILLY WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD? Sure Bill can be a jerk sometimes but O' Reilly in Olby's mind is WORSE THAN: BIN LADEN, KIM ILL, HAMAS, THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN ETC. !?

TALK ABOUT WTF!?
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Ok, Aaron, let me dissect your tirade.

First of all, WTF is right, about your Saddam's uncle (GREAT uncle in this case, if that's even a parential classification) being a Nazi during WWII claim. You're saying that KO gets his stuff from moveon.org, and then come up with THAT claim with NO proof to back it up, or even if it was true, if Saddam even knew, cared, or if it had any revelance to what Saddam did. At least give us people who may not know this some factual piece of evidence to back that up. Plus, the way you worded that one sentence to say that Saddam's dead so the death toll he caused ceased at 600K, you make it seem like you think that Hitler is still alive somewhere and can kill again. Just saying that's what I got out of that.

According to Keith, Republicans have no right to object to Democrats efforts to try and revoke the legilation they voted for which allowed military action in Iraq because Republicans objected to approving reconstruction funds to Germany 60 years ago?

Keith's hypocracy and bias in regards to comparing people to Nazi's is one thing. But saying that there is no similarities between Adolf Hitler and Saddam Hussein is just not accurate.

Adolf Hitler - Gassed women and children.
Saddam Hussein - Gassed women and children.
Adolf Hitler - Murdered people he didn't like.
Saddam Hussein - Murdered people he didn't like.
Adolf Hitler - Attacked his neighbors.
Saddam Hussein - Attacked his neighbors.
Adolf Hitler - Ruled his country with an iron fist.
Saddam Hussein - Ruled his country with an iron fist.
Adolf Hitler - Attacked Jews.
Saddam Hussein - Attacked Jews.

Adolf Hitler - Had a nose with 2 nostrils.
James - Had a nose with 2 nostrils.
Adolf Hitler - Was a male caucasian human.
James - is a male caucasian human.
Adold Hitler - Had very strong opinionated views.
James - Has very strong opinionated views.
Adolf Hitler - Rode around in four wheel vehicles.
James - Rides around in four wheel vehicles.

To the Global Warming morons: What's your plan for China's 1.3 BILLION "heat creators"?

M Schultz

This issue was settled last night. Your opinion is not warranted and has no value to anybody on the face of the planet.

Please, either keep up with the posts or stop wasting board space.

Thank you,
Everyone

AND as usual Shultzie and Olbermann 'feel' that the republican is incompetent- Shocking! Open your eyes to your hatred.

As for chronic liar... did you catch the slander from Clinton's friends about how they lie with such ease?

Damn- they missed Cheney last night

In fact, the Germans fought for pretty much every square meter of land. And, of course, we sustained no injuries slipping on flower petals in Iraq.

Had the President made the statement Secretary Rice did, it would not have been as noteworthy because we are all accustomed to him making foolish comments. Had the Vice President made the statement, it would not have been noteworthy because he is increasingly seen as delusional and a chronic liar. Secretary Rice, rightfully or wrongfully has been given an air of authenticity that she compromised. That stands out.

Excellent points , Schultzy.

AND as usual Shultzie and Olbermann 'feel' that the republican is incompetent- Shocking! Open your eyes to your hatred.

Posted by: Benson at February 27, 2007 8:25 AM

Benson is near thetop of the all time Bush apologist's list.
It's comforting to know he does succeed in something.

Tonight Olbermann exposed the Klan Republican culture. The Republicans supported Hitler. Today the the Right is the spawn of the Klan and the Nazis.

Posted by: Coward Watch at February 26, 2007 10:01 PM

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Good Decent Republicans like Joseph Kennedy! Right????

-and-

the Democratic Party passed civil rights legislation in the 1960's
Posted by: Colbert at February 26, 2007 10:32 PM
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You mean Dems like Al Gore's Dad? Oh wait, he and the other southern Dems voted AGAINST civil rights while the northern Republicans VOTED FOR CIVIL RIGHTS

If it wasn't so serious, everyone would just pass this story off as just another example of the Bush Administration shirking their responsibilities to the country:

US: food safety inspections languishing
FDA conducting half the food safety inspections it did three years ago.
The cuts by the Food and Drug Administration come despite a barrage of high-profile food recalls.

"We have a food safety crisis on the horizon," said Michael Doyle, director of the Center for Food Safety at the University of Georgia.

Between 2003 and 2006, FDA food safety inspections dropped 47 percent, according to a database analysis of federal records by The Associated Press.

That's not all that's dropping at the FDA in terms of food safety. The analysis also shows:

* There are 12 percent fewer FDA employees in field offices who concentrate on food issues.

* Safety tests for U.S.-produced food have dropped nearly 75 percent, from 9,748 in 2003 to 2,455 last year, according to the agency's own statistics.

I can just hear the OW's Bush apologists now."If you don't like it, don't eat !"

Apologist hardly- I just love to point out how you come here and cut and paste every anti-bush blog entry you find, AND then agree with it. Miserable closed-minded anti Bush faction.

For cripes sakes- Shultzie was running around yesterday saying that Al Queda waited till Bush was in office to spring 911.

And then weeks after Condi helps secure an agreement with North Korea, you haters come in here and call her incompetent. Pick your fights. I'd admit there are fallacies in the Bush legacy, but your overreaching has no ends.

Now onto 1965. You lied "the GOP passed civil rights--the dems had noit a damned thing to do with it." Let's check the vote.

Senate: 77–19

* Democrats: 47–17 = 73.4% for
* Republicans: 30–2 = 93.7% for

House: 333–85

* Democrats: 221–61 = 78.4% for
* Republicans: 112–24 = 82.4% for

Conference Report:

Senate: 79–18

* Democrats: 49–17 = 74.2% for
* Republicans: 30–1 = 96.8% for

House: 328–74

* Democrats: 217–54 = 80.1% for
* Republicans: 111–20 = 84.7% for

That appears to show the Democrats had a lot more to do with passage than the Republicans did.

Posted by: Colbert at February 27, 2007 12:31 AM

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Oh Colby Colby Colby....tsk tsk tsk...
You tell us to check the facts so I did...I figured out the percentages of the vote totals you gave...IN EVERY SINGLE VOTE YOU LISTED, THE REPUBLICANS VOTED IN HIGHER PERCENTAGES FOR CIVIL RIGHTS THAN THE DEMOCRATS! Therefore, your conclusion "That appears to show the Democrats had a lot more to do with passage than the Republicans did" is shown to be false...more accurately, the conclusion should be the Civil Rights passed Congress IN SPITE OF the Democrats.

Apologist hardly- I just love to point out how you come here and cut and paste every anti-bush blog entry you find, AND then agree with it. Miserable closed-minded anti Bush faction.
-Benson.

Benson, are you really that stupid ?
The FDA story is a national story in every newspaper in America today.
I guess you're following in your hero's footsteps and don't read !

FYI. I found the article in my hometown newspaper which I read daily at breakfast.

You should try it sometimes.

Bob- going to the stupid card so early!
Truly a miserble pompous ass.

Bob- going to the stupid card so early!
Truly a miserble pompous ass.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 10:23 AM

When you people are dead wrong , you don't have the integrity to admit it.

Bob- you really are an ass.
When you left this blog last week the slander and slurs fell to a level that was tolerable. Since you have been back- your assaults have raised the rhetoric back to second grade level. Bravo... must be proud that you can insult everyone from a Grandmother on down. You poor miserable motherf---er.

Get your Bush apologists hats on again boys:

Gen. Pace: Military Capability Eroding:

WASHINGTON — Strained by the demands of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is a significant risk that the U.S. military won't be able to quickly and fully respond to yet another crisis, according to a new report to Congress.

The assessment, done by the nation's top military officer, Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, represents a worsening from a year ago, when that risk was rated as moderate.

The report is classified, but on Monday senior defense officials, speaking on condition on anonymity, confirmed the decline in overall military readiness. And a report that accompanied Pace's review concluded that while the Pentagon is working to improve its warfighting abilities, it "may take several years to reduce risk to acceptable levels."

Benson is a little edgy that he's wrong about almost everything he posts.

I understand , Benson.

Bob-

Various studies from ALGORE the move, were proven to be false by the time it was released. Heck, even last week there were write ups in entertainment publications that said that it technically did not qualify for the Academy Awards in that category.

Your UN friends have not issued their report yet, only a summary of it for political use...and even they have backed off of previous claims. Now they say mankind "may be" responsible not "is" as previously stated.

Also, more and more in the last few months, scientists and other leaders who do not buy into the man made global warming idea have been coming forth and expressing their views and stating their case while those who promote the idea have become far more shrill (ie calling global warming deniers on par with holocaust deniers).

Just FYI!

PS ALGORE uses 20times the eneergy of the avg american family...if sacrifice is to be the mantra...maybe he should show some

I don't know why anyone continues to watch 'Meltdown'. KO is predictable as the Oscars were. His hour show (more like 44 mins. w/commercials) doesn't even consist of anything news worthy. Alot of the segments consist of recycled footage of stories from NBC(Nothing-But-Communists) and when KO speaks, he parrots the talking points from the liberal-inclined blogs.

Also, more and more in the last few months, scientists and other leaders who do not buy into the man made global warming idea have been coming forth
-Fred the Teddy Bear

These mystery people who don't think man is causing climate change don't like to come out in public and express their views.
Do you blame them?
When the best scientists in the world came out last month at the Interconcontinental Climate Change Symposium and stated that there is a 90% chance that man is causing global warming, it's hard to differ with that.

Please show your multi country PUBLIC forums that express your points of view.
Of course, you can't.
Nuff said.

PS ALGORE uses 20times the eneergy of the avg american family...if sacrifice is to be the mantra...maybe he should show some

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 10:39 AM

20 times eh?
How did you measure that?
Another one you pulled out of your ass?

Now the facts:

Al Gore uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film.

WASHINGTON — Strained by the demands of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is a significant risk that the U.S. military won't be able to quickly and fully respond to yet another crisis, according to a new report to Congress.

The assessment, done by the nation's top military officer, Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, represents a worsening from a year ago, when that risk was rated as moderate.

The report is classified, but on Monday senior defense officials, speaking on condition on anonymity, confirmed the decline in overall military readiness. And a report that accompanied Pace's review concluded that while the Pentagon is working to improve its warfighting abilities, it "may take several years to reduce risk to acceptable levels."

Posted by: Bob at February 27, 2007 10:37 AM

booby, are you finished dancing, yet? You are the type of person that just loves to see total crap like this, aren't you? booby=olbyloon

NBC(Nothing-But-Communists)

Posted by: Jay Williams at February 27, 2007 10:43 AM

This is the type of mentality that infiltrates this site.

booby, are you finished dancing, yet? You are the type of person that just loves to see total crap like this, aren't you? booby=olbyloon

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 10:53 AM

I'm the type of person that likes to point how just how WRONG you wingnuts are on everything you post.

Total crap? Are you calling the Joint Chiefs of Staff total crap?

Please respond.

Al Gore uses renewable energy credits to offset the pollution he produces when using a private jet to promote his film.

Posted by: Bob at February 27, 2007 10:49 AM

Energy credits were made up for rich people to feel good about while polluting. Thats just great, Gore is rich and can pay money to feel good about travelling in a private jet.

These mystery people who don't think man is causing climate change don't like to come out in public and express their views.
Do you blame them?
When the best scientists in the world came out last month at the Interconcontinental Climate Change Symposium and stated that there is a 90% chance that man is causing global warming, it's hard to differ with that.

Please show your multi country PUBLIC forums that express your points of view.
Of course, you can't.
Nuff said.

Posted by: Bob at February 27, 2007 10:45 AM

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Bobby boy--

Thanks for not denying the first paragraph, the second paragraph, or the PS of my 1039 am post! It is good to see you on board!

As far as your counter to my post (above)

You too can find these "mystery people"...its called google.com.....click on the "news" link and begin to search...I know yu can do it! I have faith in you!

PS UN going from absolute certaintity to 90% certain in just a few years...just think what it will be like in a few more!

Yes Bob...20 times:

POWER: GORE MANSION USES 20X AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD; CONSUMPTION INCREASE AFTER 'TRUTH'
Mon Feb 26 2007 17:16:14 ET

Nashville Electric Service/Gore House

2006

High 22619 kWh Aug – Sept
Low 12541 kWh Jan - Feb
Average: 18,414 kWh per month

2005

High 20532 Sept - October
Low 12955 Feb - March
Average: 16,200 kWh per month

Bill amounts

2006 – $895.60 (low) $1738.52 (high) $1359 (average)
2005 – $853.91 (low) $1461 (high)

Nashville Gas Company

Main House
2006 – $990(high) $170 (low) $536 (average)
2005 – $1080 (high) $200 (low) $640 (average)

Guest House/Pool House

2006 – $820 (high) $70 (low) $544 (average)
2005 – $1025 (high) $25 (low) $525 (average)

The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization, issued a press release late Monday:

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore’s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

For Further Information, Contact:
Nicole Williams, (615) 383-6431
editor@tennesseepolicy.org

Energy credits were made up for rich people to feel good about while polluting. Thats just great, Gore is rich and can pay money to feel good about travelling in a private jet.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 11:02 AM

Is that your best comeback?
I understand you have nothing.

Your hatred of Al Gore speaks volumes of your ignorance of just how much this man has been such a positive influence to the extent that world leaders are requesting him to come speak in their countries.

Can you imagine someone, anyone asking George Bush to come and speak and dispense his pearls of wisdom?

No I can't either.

booby, admit it, you get off on reading about our soldiers dying and supposedy being run ragged. You would be known as a "cutnrunr." Hannity is going to blow the cbs (forged ducument network) story that was on sun night completely out of the water next sunday night, the one where they had the nine homosexuals on that said the war effort wasn't working? Can't wait. He already has thousands of e-mails from Real Soldiers over there to refute the homo's. By next sun, who's knows how many he will have.

Freddy the Teddy Bear. I didn't and I don't respond to every ridiculous thing you post.
I'd be here all day.

But I'll correct you yet one more time:

Al Gore's new film gets thumbs up from scientists

Updated Wed. Jun. 28 2006 8:37 AM ET

Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- The nation's top climate scientists are giving "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's documentary on global warming, five stars for accuracy.

The former vice president's movie -- replete with the prospect of a flooded New York City, an inundated Florida, more and nastier hurricanes, worsening droughts, retreating glaciers and disappearing ice sheets -- mostly got the science right, said all 19 climate scientists who had seen the movie or read the book and answered questions from The Associated Press.

But those who have seen it had the same general impression: Gore conveyed the science correctly; the world is getting hotter and it is a manmade catastrophe-in-the-making caused by the burning of fossil fuels.

"Excellent," said William Schlesinger, dean of the Nicholas School of Environment and Earth Sciences at Duke University. "He got all the important material and got it right."

booby, admit it, you get off on reading about our soldiers dying and supposedy being run ragged. You would be known as a "cutnrunr."

No it pains me to see Bush's war wear out our military where we cannot now respond to a real emgergency.
If you didn't have your head up your ass, you would too.
And your laughable post on the equally laughable and discredited Sean "Blockhead" Hannity shows where you get your information.
More funnies from No Name.

You too can find these "mystery people"...its called google.com.....click on the "news" link and begin to search...I know yu can do it! I have faith in you!

Please do go to google and check out the type blogs and right wing sites that deny global warming.
Then go to REAL science sites and see what the real scientists say.

The fact that you idiots are still grasping at straws on climate change just shows how out of touch you are with this topic.
You were wrong about the Iraq War, wrong about WMD, wrong about Bush, wwrong about the Nov midterms etc.
Don't you guys get tired of coming here and making jackasses out of yourselves?

Hey, I don't get tired of making an ass out of myself.
I'm proud to still be a Bush supporter.
How can you not, when you know our great president gets his guidance from the man above.

But even us hillbilly mountain people know global warming exists.
And Brick and my people here in Alabama are proud to be contributing to it, with our hot rod races on Sunday down at the track.

A common pattern on this board:

Olbermann made a valid point with a special comment about Rice's comments last night, and NOBODY has even made a dent in the validity of his comments. An MSNBC commentator has told the truth, and our secretary of state looks like an idiot - again!

Oh there's lots of comments. Go back and check em out; Comments aboout Olby's 'orangeness', camera angle tricks, accusations of 'racism', "you hate Bush", + the usual anti-Olbermann stereotypical personal insults, etc. But not ONE valid argument attacking the text of his comments, or the truthfullness of his words.

Over 20 die in an attack aimed at the popular Mr. Cheney.

BAGRAM, Afghanistan - A suicide bomber attacked the entrance to the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan on Tuesday during a visit by Vice President Dick Cheney, killing up to 23 people and wounding 20. Cheney was unhurt in the attack, which was claimed by the Taliban and was the closest that militants have come to a top U.S. official visiting Afghanistan. At least one U.S. soldier, an American contractor and a South Korean soldier were among the dead, NATO said.

How come he didn't shoot any of them in the face, like he did back at that fake shooting ranch?
Too many witnesses ?

First Lady On Iraq: It's The "One Bombing A Day That Discourages Everybody."

Thanks for that brilliant statement,Laura, now it's time for you to feed Barney.

How come he didn't shoot any of them in the face, like he did back at that fake shooting ranch?
Too many witnesses ?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:00 PM

not drunk enough like he was when he shot his friend in the face.

The poor and deluded Professor Honeydew (Bob).....

He and his radical leftist ideologues remain impotent to do anything positive for their horrible agenda. All he can do is continue to come to OW and post off subject cut/paste attacks on The Bush Administration. Cursing the darkness is such a meaningless existence...is it not?

What a pathetic existence for the once proud flower child who is, once again, searching for Haight Asbury.

Please try to remain on topic, professor. We will indulge you every now and then, but it is getting rather tedious to keep shooting you down!

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Oh there's lots of comments. Go back and check em out; Comments aboout Olby's 'orangeness', camera angle tricks, accusations of 'racism', "you hate Bush", + the usual anti-Olbermann stereotypical personal insults, etc. But not ONE valid argument attacking the text of his comments, or the truthfullness of his words.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 11:58 AM

For those of you who haven't figured it out yet, this is "olbermannwatch," not bashourpresidentwtach. Truthfullness??????lol.

ON TOPIC.....
Some anon fool posted:

"Olbermann made a valid point with a special comment about Rice's comments last night, and NOBODY has even made a dent in the validity of his comments. An MSNBC commentator has told the truth, and our secretary of state looks like an idiot - again!"

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Olbermann made a valid point?????....What are you, an idiot?....

Olbermann: "Saddam Hussein was not Adolf Hitler."

OK, and his characterization of Bill O'Reilly as Hitler wasn't hyperbole?

Furthermore, the American left's darling, former President Hussein, did the following:

Hussein's regime killed, tortured, raped and terrorized the Iraqi people and its neighbors for over two decades.

Hundreds of thousands of people died as a result of Saddam's actions.

Saddam had approximately 40 of his own relatives murdered.

1980-88: Iran-Iraq war left 150,000 to 340,000 Iraqis and 450,000 to 730,000 Iranians dead.

1983-1988: Documented chemical attacks by Iraqi regime caused some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths.

1988: Chemical attack on Kurdish village of Halabja killed approximately 5,000 people.

1987-1988: Iraqi regime used chemical agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages.

1990-91: 1,000 Kuwaitis were killed in Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

1991: Bloody suppression of Kurdish and Shi'a uprisings in northern and southern Iraq killed at least 30,000 to 60,000. At least 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign of terror.

2001: Amnesty International report: "Victims of torture in Iraq are subjected to a wide range of forms of torture, including the gouging out of eyes, severe beatings and electric shocks... some victims have died as a result and many have been left with permanent physical and psychological damage."

Human Rights Watch: Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds.

Refugees International: "Oppressive government policies have led to the internal displacement of 900,000 Iraqis."

Iraq's 13 million Shiite Muslims, the majority of Iraq's population of approximately 22 million, faced severe restrictions on their religious practice.

FBI: Iraqi government was involved in a plot to assassinate former President George Bush during his April 14-16, 1993, visit to Kuwait.

The Iraqi regime has repeatedly refused visits by human rights monitors.

From 1992 until 2002, Saddam prevented the U.N. Special Rapporteur from visiting Iraq.

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No, Hussein wasn't at all like Hitler.....But Billo deserves the comparison....

Cough, cough.....

I think Ms. Rice was a bit more accurate than the silly and demagogic Professor Olbermann.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

But those who have seen it had the same general impression: Gore conveyed the science correctly; the world is getting hotter and it is a manmade catastrophe-in-the-making caused by the burning of fossil fuels.

"Excellent," said William Schlesinger, dean of the Nicholas School of Environment and Earth Sciences at Duke University. "He got all the important material and got it right."

Posted by: Bob at February 27, 2007 11:14 AM

booby, I noticed last night you never explained the previous 6 ice ages that took place, when there were no humans or gorey burning 10,000 gallons of jet fuel a day! Did the dinosaurs cause them? Did the cavemen have suv's that went undocumented?

Yes Bob! stop posting off topic with all these news stories. if you going to come to a site criticizing a news figure it is important NOT to speak about the news. instead if you could stick Keith Olbermann's complexion, and other valid topics, it would be much appreciated.

He and his radical leftist ideologues remain impotent to do anything positive for their horrible agenda. All he can do is continue to come to OW and post off subject cut/paste attacks on The Bush Administration. Cursing the darkness is such a meaningless existence...is it not?

Off subjects?
And only you get to pick the subjects?
Cursing the darkness?
Have you lost your mind?

That post that quoted the Joint Chiefs of Staff saying how Bush's war has made our military not ready for an emergency went (((((zip)))) right over this moron's head.

These FACTS are called "cut and paste jobs"
by this dunce.

Notice HIS SAME cut and paste quotes that no one reads.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

No it pains me to see Bush's war wear out our military where we cannot now respond to a real emgergency.
If you didn't have your head up your ass, you would too.
And your laughable post on the equally laughable and discredited Sean "Blockhead" Hannity shows where you get your information.
More funnies from No Name.

Posted by: Bob at February 27, 2007 11:20 AM

Not only are you a cutnrunr you are to ashamed to admit, spineless! I just heard where gorey's own neighbors are blasting him for his global warming crap, priceless.

booby, I noticed last night you never explained the previous 6 ice ages that took place, when there were no humans or gorey burning 10,000 gallons of jet fuel a day! Did the dinosaurs cause them? Did the cavemen have suv's that went undocumented?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:16 PM

I'm not Bob but I must address your lunacy.

Do you think you won a victory because your idiotic points were not addressed?

The fact that you come here and think you're outsmarting the world's best scientists is hysterical.

Go back to watching Jerry Springer.

I just heard where gorey's own neighbors are blasting him for his global warming crap, priceless.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:20 PM

Another hysterical post.
Plese keep posting. My endorphins are having a field day with laughter with your bizarre and illogical posts.

His neighbors?
Are they all scientists?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

The fact that you come here and think you're outsmarting the world's best scientists is hysterical.

Go back to watching Jerry Springer.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:24 PM

Who are these "world's best scientists?" Go refill your cup o' koolaid. For every one loony scientist that says were all going to die tomorrow, there are 100 that say the complete oposite, prick.

Not only are you a cutnrunr you are to ashamed to admit, spineless!

In a new ABC/Washpo poll the majority of the American people want us out by the end of the year.
Are all these Americans cutnrunr's?

Even the troops want us out by that time.
Are the troops cutnrunr's too ?
Are you related to that idiot Cee?

I also noticed you didn't respond to Bob's post about the Joint Chief of Staff being "total crap"

How come?

Another hysterical post.
Plese keep posting. My endorphins are having a field day with laughter with your bizarre and illogical posts.

His neighbors?
Are they all scientists?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:26 PM

I bet your parents are proud of you! The fact that you are so deep in denial is laughable, of course coming from someone who has his face buried in the usa today all day long (liberal toilet paper) is not surprising youi haven't heard about gorey's own neighbors calling him the hypocrit he really is. That speaks mass volume. His own neighbors hate him!

here are 100 that say the complete oposite, prick.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:28 PM

Where are these tens of thousands of scientists?How come you can't find any of these people anywhere but right wing blogs and wacko- right wing web sites?

How come you're such an idiot?

Questions that need answering.

booby, I noticed last night you never explained the previous 6 ice ages that took place, when there were no humans or gorey burning 10,000 gallons of jet fuel a day! Did the dinosaurs cause them? Did the cavemen have suv's that went undocumented?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:16 PM

I'm not Bob but I must address your lunacy.

Do you think you won a victory because your idiotic points were not addressed?

The fact that you come here and think you're outsmarting the world's best scientists is hysterical.

Go back to watching Jerry Springer.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:24 PM

And folks, this would be known as the "divert" card, avoiding the question. It's obvious why, because you can't answer it.

Anon is quite the crazed lunatic.....

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

That speaks mass volume. His own neighbors hate him!

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:32 PM

yes that does.

HAHAHAHAHAH

The fact that this man is never home because he's speaking with heads of state, picking up awards, lecturing all over the world etc. but HIS NEIGHBORS hate him, that's all anyone needs to know, according to a mental midget such as yourself.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Did cee say something?

Doesn't he know NO ONE even reads his far right wing posts?

'Discredited Sean Hannity'....

I don't listen to him, but it seems he is on the radio, Ah Bob, (Mr. know it all)

Hannity is discredited to who Olby?

Just throwing crap out there to impress your pinhead friends?

Let's see I don't watch Hannity but he does pull better numbers that your boy only dreams of, right?

I like it when you stop by and talk out your ass.

Oh I forgot your from New Jersey, Hey I hope you get that property tax real soon. But, remember don't get sick in New Jersey. You know that Hospital Bed tax they are bringing on board?

Just make sure you drag your ass across the state line.

Keep reading that fantasy 'Star Ledger' Bob.

'Discredited Sean Hannity'....

Wait folks I do believe we have found someone who thinks Olby is 'The Most Honest Man In News'.

Need we say more about Bob?

I do, keep it up cee, the truth is a killer!

booby=classic olbyloon.

Hey idiot, have you even seen "An Inconvenient Truth?

Too inconvenient for you ?

Have you ever considered that people like you only speak this nonsense on sites like this?

That all of the discussion in the world today is how are we going to address the climate change problems, not if it exists?

You don't know this ?

'Discredited Sean Hannity'....

I don't listen to him, but it seems he is on the radio, Ah Bob, (Mr. know it all)

Hannity is discredited to who Olby?

Just throwing crap out there to impress your pinhead friends?

Let's see I don't watch Hannity but he does pull better numbers that your boy only dreams of, right?

I like it when you stop by and talk out your ass.

Oh I forgot your from New Jersey, Hey I hope you get that property tax real soon. But, remember don't get sick in New Jersey. You know that Hospital Bed tax they are bringing on board?

Just make sure you drag your ass across the state line.

Keep reading that fantasy 'Star Ledger' Bob.

'Discredited Sean Hannity'....

Wait folks I do believe we have found someone who thinks Olby is 'The Most Honest Man In News'.

Need we say more about Bob?

Hey idiot, have you even seen "An Inconvenient Truth?

Too inconvenient for you ?

Have you ever considered that people like you only speak this nonsense on sites like this?

That all of the discussion in the world today is how are we going to address the climate change problems, not if it exists?

You don't know this ?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:43 PM

I'm not into science fiction/propaganda movies.

I do, keep it up cee, the truth is a killer!

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:42 PM

Just read this braindead moron's posts and see who your audience is , Cee.

Ha !

I'm not into science fiction/propaganda movies.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:44 PM

yet the top climate scientists in the world said Al got his facts correct.

Who to believe?
You or the top scientists?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

That's a tough one !

Hannity is discredited to who Olby?

By anyone with a brain, Puck.
You need not apply.

I do, keep it up cee, the truth is a killer!

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:42 PM

Just read this braindead moron's posts and see who your audience is , Cee.

Ha !

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:45 PM

Any village idiot could sit here all day long calling people names, like you do. That's all you do. No "valid" points, just childish name calling, real intelligent.

"How many days of coverage did Fat Ass give to Ted Haggard? And yet not one minute of coverage to this."

Johnny, Kirsten Powers already explained how this is a BOGUS comparison - you cannot expect the same level of coverage for a FORMER (and I stress the word FORMER) chapter-level president of the ACLU and the PRESIDENT of the National Association of Evangelicals and the HEAD of a $150 million mega-church. They're TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.

Interesting point Cee. As usual you left out some important details though.

"1980-88: Iran-Iraq war left 150,000 to 340,000 Iraqis and 450,000 to 730,000 Iranians dead."

What you left out: The U.S. maintained a close alliance with Iraq all through the 1980s. In 1983, and again in 1984, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, then the special envoy of President Reagan, traveled to Baghdad to meet with Saddam Hussein and negotiate a renewal of full U.S.-Iraqi diplomatic relations. Despite at least two face-to-face meetings, Rumsfeld never expressed to Saddam Hussein any U.S. displeasure about Iraq's use of illegal chemical weapons. (The State Department claims Rumsfeld did mention it separately to Tariq Aziz.) In any case, Washington restored full diplomatic relations by November 1984, extending financial support, agricultural credits, military technology and intelligence, the seed stock for biological weapons, and political support to the regime in Baghdad, then, as now, led by Saddam Hussein.

"1983-1988: Documented chemical attacks by Iraqi regime caused some 30,000 Iraqi and Iranian deaths."

What you left out: During its alliance with the United States in the 1970s and 1980s, Iraq had active programs producing chemical and biological weapons, and researching and working towards production of a nuclear weapon. These programs were actively and knowingly supported by U.S. corporations and the U.S. government, as revealed in 1994 House Banking Committee hearings. Those hearings revealed, among other things, that the American Type Culture Collection, a company outside of Washington DC, had provided Iraq with the seed stock for biological weapons agents including anthrax, botulinum, e-coli and many more, under license by the U.S. Commerce Department.

A leak in the German newspaper die Tageszeitung of some of the 8,000 pages that Washington deleted from Iraq's December 7, 2002, arms declaration provided further information. The deleted sections documented 24 U.S. corporations, 55 U.S. subsidiaries of foreign corporations, and a number of U.S. government agencies that provided parts, material, training and other assistance to Iraq's chemical, biological, missile, and nuclear weapons programs throughout the 1970s and 80s, some continuing till the end of 1990. The U.S. corporations include Honeywell, Rockwell, Hewlett Packard, Dupont, Eastman Kodak, Bechtel, and more. U.S. government Departments of Energy, Commerce, Defense and Agriculture, as well as federal laboratories at Sandia, Los Alamos and Lawrence Livermore, were also involved.

"1988: Chemical attack on Kurdish village of Halabja killed approximately 5,000 people."

See Above

"1987-1988: Iraqi regime used chemical agents in attacks against at least 40 Kurdish villages."

See Above.

"1990-91: 1,000 Kuwaitis were killed in Iraqi invasion of Kuwait."

See Above.

"1991: Bloody suppression of Kurdish and Shi'a uprisings in northern and southern Iraq killed at least 30,000 to 60,000. At least 2,000 Kurdish villages were destroyed during the campaign of terror."

What you left out: On Feb. 15, 1991, as the Desert Storm air campaign blasted Iraqi defenses in Kuwait, Bush(I) flew to Andover, Mass., for a rally at the Raytheon plant, as an aside he said, "There's another way for the bloodshed to stop, and this is for the Iraqi military and the Iraqi people to take matters into their own hands and force Saddam Hussein, the dictator, to step aside."

It was the Shi'ites in southern Iraq and the Kurds in the north--both of whom had long been subjugated by Saddam--who took Bush's words to heart. They began their revolt on March 1, just one day after Bush halted the war. But Saddam's battered Republican Guard divisions in the south quickly refashioned themselves and attacked Shi'ite guerrillas. Meanwhile, in the north, several Iraqi divisions moved to crush the Kurdish rebellion. The U.S. inadvertently helped Saddam annihilate the rebels by agreeing in the cease-fire deal negotiated by General Norman Schwarzkopf to allow Iraqi generals to continue flying their helicopters--a mistake because Saddam then used them to strafe rebels on the ground.

Desperate Shi'ite and Kurdish leaders begged the U.S. military for help. But Colin Powell, then Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, wanted U.S. troops safely home, not mired in what might become a messy civil war

"Human Rights Watch: Saddam's 1987-1988 campaign of terror against the Kurds killed at least 50,000 and possibly as many as 100,000 Kurds."

See above.

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"No, Hussein wasn't at all like Hitler.....But Billo deserves the comparison....

Cough, cough....."

When the comparison is made to Bill O it is hyperbole. When it is made for Hussein it is meant to be a literal comparison which is invalid.

"I think Ms. Rice was a bit more accurate than the silly and demagogic Professor Olbermann."

No she wasn't. It was Bin Laden supported by the Taliban that attacked us, not Iraq.

Saddam has never attacked the U.S. with WMDs because he knew the consequences of such actions would be devastating. During the first Gulf war isreal warned Saddam that they would unleash the nuclear arsenal if any WMds were used against them. Despite the strong effort on the right (by creating saddam)he was not an imminent threat and Now Afghanistan is in jepordy.

"Tell the Vietnamese they've got to draw in their horns or we're going to bomb them back into the Stone Age." -- Curtis leMay

“I can't tell you if the use of force in Iraq today will last five days, five weeks or five months, but it won't last any longer than that.” -- Donald Rumsfeld

Kirsten Powers? The Fox News punching bag? Nice, defending a pedophile, a true liberal.

Hey Anon....for someone not reading my posts, you sure seem riled up by them!

Oh yeah, IMPOTENT LEFTISTS, some good cut and paste from CNN:

DEMS GRASP FOR IRAQ STRATEGY WHILE PUBLIC STEWS

"Democratic leaders backed away from aggressive plans to limit President Bush's war authority, the latest sign of divisions within their ranks over how to proceed.

"Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said Monday he wanted to delay votes on a measure that would repeal the 2002 war authorization and narrow the mission in Iraq.

"Senior Democrats who drafted the proposal, including Sens. Joseph Biden of Delaware and Carl Levin of Michigan, had sought swift action on it as early as this week, when the Senate takes up a measure to enact the recommendations of the bipartisan September 11 commission.

"Reid, who will huddle with Democrats Tuesday to discuss whether to postpone the Iraq debate, cited pressure from victims' families for quick action on the Sept. 11 bill as the reason for doing so.

"'Iraq is going to be there -- it's just a question of when we get back to it,' Reid said, predicting it would be 'days, not weeks' before the Senate returned to the issue. The war reauthorization legislation also appears to lack the 60 votes it would need to pass the Senate.

"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California, meanwhile, said she doesn't support tying war funding to strict training and readiness targets for U.S. troops.

"The comments distanced her from Rep. John Murtha, D-Pennsylvania, who has said he wants to use Congress' spending power to force a change in policy in Iraq, by setting strict conditions on war funding.

"Pelosi said she supports holding the administration to training and readiness targets, but added: 'I don't see them as conditions to our funding. Let me be very clear: Congress will fund our troops.'

"Asked whether the standards should be tied to a $100 billion supplemental war spending measure -- as Murtha has proposed -- Pelosi demurred, saying it was up to the panel that drafts funding bills.

"THE DEVELOPMENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE CAPITOL REFLECTED A NEW LEVEL OF DISARRAY IN DEMOCRATIC RANKS ON IRAQ. SWEPT INTO POWER BY VOTERS CLAMORING FOR AN END TO THE WAR, DEMOCRATS HAVE SEEN THEIR EFFORTS FALTER UNDER A REALITY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THEY FOUND ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

"While the public is fed up with Iraq, there is little consensus over what to do."

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/27/flailing.over.iraq.ap/index.html

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Mmmmm, you liberals just can't seem to run anything well except a political campaign (BIG DEAL)! Too, too, too bad.

I can't wait for '08!

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Didn't Cee just put someone down for cutting and pasting?

Doesn't that make him a hypocrite ?

“I can't tell you if the use of force in Iraq today will last five days, five weeks or five months, but it won't last any longer than that.” -- Donald Rumsfeld

Posted by: Jt at February 27, 2007 12:51 PM

Cee loves to ignore many facts that make him like foolish.
Bob makes him look like a fool on a regular basis.

More facts cee likes to ignore.
Doesn't help his propaganda.

WASHINGTON — Strained by the demands of wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is a significant risk that the U.S. military won't be able to quickly and fully respond to yet another crisis, according to a new report to Congress.

The assessment, done by the nation's top military officer, Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, represents a worsening from a year ago, when that risk was rated as moderate.

The report is classified, but on Monday senior defense officials, speaking on condition on anonymity, confirmed the decline in overall military readiness. And a report that accompanied Pace's review concluded that while the Pentagon is working to improve its warfighting abilities, it "may take several years to reduce risk to acceptable levels."

Typical radical leftist....

jt once again blames America for the atrocities of Saddam Hussein....By your logic I guess our alliance with Joseph Stalin makes his behavior all the less "Hitler-esque." Were we responsible for the millions killed in the USSR and Eastern Europe under ol' Joe too?

Please try to stay focused on the subject (I know that is how you guys try to fake it).....Olbermann has said O'Reilly is Hitler and Saddam Hussein was not Hitler....

Do you agree with him?

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Ramadi bombing kills 18 boys

A car bomb exploded Tuesday near a park popular with young soccer players, killing at least 18 boys in a city west of Baghdad known as a center of the Sunni insurgency, police said.

What did Laura Bush say again?

…what we see on television is the one bombing a day that discourages everybody.

Ramadi bombing kills 18 boys

A car bomb exploded Tuesday near a park popular with young soccer players, killing at least 18 boys in a city west of Baghdad known as a center of the Sunni insurgency, police said.

What did Laura Bush say again?

…what we see on television is the one bombing a day that discourages everybody.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:58 PM

The olbyloons are dancing, again!

More facts the demogogue Cee needs to ignore to keep posting:

Feb. 26, 2007 — A record number of Americans disapprove of the war in Iraq, and a clear majority now favors the eventual withdrawal of U.S. forces, even if civil order has not been restored there — potentially a tipping point in public attitudes on the war.

While solutions remain vexing, for the first time ABC News/Washington Post polls show a narrow majority of Americans support setting a deadline for the withdrawal of U.S. forces. Two-thirds oppose George W. Bush's troop surge; most oppose it strongly.

It all makes for a continued hard slog for the president: Just 36 percent approve of his job performance overall, very near his career low of 33 percent last month. Bush hasn't seen majority approval in more than two years — the longest run without majority support for any president since Harry Truman from 1950-53.

While rooted in Iraq, Bush's problems with credibility and confidence reach beyond it. Sixty-three percent of Americans don't trust the administration to convey intelligence reports on potential threats from other countries honestly and accurately. And 58 percent lack confidence, specifically, in its ability to handle current tensions with Iran.

The more Iraqis and US soldiers killed, the happier the IMPOTENT LEFT becomes! They thrive off the death and misery of the Iraqis and those defending them just like they did 35 years ago in another era......

This is classic behavior of the weak and unintelligent....They project their anger over their impotence towards the rest of us.....

What a shame to see it shown so much today, on OW!

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

The simple fact is that Cee's views are totally in contrast to the American people.

They know what a lousy leader Bush is.
They know Bush's War has been the worst foreign policy blunder in our history.

Yet he continues to post as if none of this exists.

Are you on drugs ?

Facts of the deaths of our troops are blamed on the LEFT by the brain dead, Cee.

Reporting them means we're "happy" about them.

If Cee had a conscience, he would never speak another word. Yet we'll get his blathering on a daily basis.

Cee can't see how putting our troops in the middle of a civil war isn't too bright.

Cee is an embarrassment to the human race.

"Typical radical leftist...."

I know, using all that evidence and sh-t to make a point.

"jt once again blames America for the atrocities of Saddam Hussein...."

Nope, I blamed the right who funded and supported Saddam. It is interesting that you keep calling the dictator The left's darling when your team created and supported him and then left the Iraqi people to their fate while he butchered them.

"By your logic I guess our alliance with Joseph Stalin makes his behavior all the less "Hitler-esque." Were we responsible for the millions killed in the USSR and Eastern Europe under ol' Joe too?"

This probably a waste of time, I don't know if you will even understand what a strawman is. But you are doing it. Google logical fallacies to correct your error.

"Please try to stay focused on the subject (I know that is how you guys try to fake it).....Olbermann has said O'Reilly is Hitler and Saddam Hussein was not Hitler...."

My "off topic" conversation was in response to you mentioning how the left supposedly loves Saddam. I, with much evidence (which you ignored) explained how the right is obviously far more in love with the man. If you want people to stay on target you will have to do so yourself so they don’t have to waste time responding to your absurd claims.

"Do you agree with him?"

I explained that one is hyperbole the other is a literal comparison. Your question is invalid.

"Tell the Vietnamese they've got to draw in their horns or we're going to bomb them back into the Stone Age." -- Curtis LeMay

“I can't tell you if the use of force in Iraq today will last five days, five weeks or five months, but it won't last any longer than that.” -- Donald Rumsfeld

Hey anon at 1:04 PM, if this is so true, why can't your ruling elite DO anything about it?....

Once again....this is real life.....a war.....not a political campaign that picks a winner and loser....

The difference between leadership and what the silly and ineffective Democrats put up.

This is the reality and NO poll will change that.

Keep up the silliness and I'll keep shooting it down easily.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Close your eyes, Cee.
It ain't too pretty and makes your points null and void :

Feb. 26, 2007 — A record number of Americans disapprove of the war in Iraq, and a clear majority now favors the eventual withdrawal of U.S. forces, even if civil order has not been restored there — potentially a tipping point in public attitudes on the war.

While solutions remain vexing, for the first time ABC News/Washington Post polls show a narrow majority of Americans support setting a deadline for the withdrawal of U.S. forces. Two-thirds oppose George W. Bush's troop surge; most oppose it strongly.

It all makes for a continued hard slog for the president: Just 36 percent approve of his job performance overall, very near his career low of 33 percent last month. Bush hasn't seen majority approval in more than two years — the longest run without majority support for any president since Harry Truman from 1950-53.

While rooted in Iraq, Bush's problems with credibility and confidence reach beyond it. Sixty-three percent of Americans don't trust the administration to convey intelligence reports on potential threats from other countries honestly and accurately. And 58 percent lack confidence, specifically, in its ability to handle current tensions with Iran.

"Keep up the silliness and I'll keep shooting it down easily."

Now I know he's on drugs.

What kind cee ?

The only thing you shoot is yourself in the foot each time you post.

Sixty-three percent of Americans don't trust the administration to convey intelligence reports on potential threats from other countries honestly and accurately. And 58 percent lack confidence, specifically, in its ability to handle current tensions with Iran.

When you lost the American people, you've lost the war, your career and everything.

A new Democratic president can't come soon enough.

"Hey anon at 1:04 PM, if this is so true, why can't your ruling elite DO anything about it?...."

Because the Republican kool-aid drinkers in the Senate won't even let the DEBATE happen because they want a promise that Democrats will NEVER cut funding REGARDLESS of how bad the situation gets.

And now I read that we're sending two full combat brigades to Iraq WITHOUT giving them proper training in desert combat tactics. We have to rush them over to support this "surge" plan of the President's...

More facts : Cover your eyes Cee :

The Blame Game: Advantage Democrats

Views on Iraq are accompanied by a broad sense that the main blame for failing to control the violence in Iraq rests with its own government (70 percent say so), not the United States (18 percent).

Indeed, two-thirds favor reducing U.S. military and financial support if the Iraqis fail to make progress restoring order — one of the popular steps proposed by the Iraq Study Group in December, but not taken up by Bush. (Another is the group's proposal for a shift to a military training mission, with most U.S. combat forces withdrawn by early 2008; at the time of the proposal, 69 percent supported it.)

The Democrats in Congress continue to hold the upper hand on Iraq .

BINGO!

oh my God, there's more :

The Democrats continue to lead Bush in other areas as well, including a 52-39 percent advantage in trust to handle terrorism (once Bush's cornerstone issue, a majority has disapproved of his work on terrorism steadily since October). The Democrats lead by wider margins in trust to handle the economy, despite its relatively good condition; the federal budget; and health care, with no gain for Bush from his State of the Union proposal to move health insurance tax breaks from corporations to individuals.

Cee won't be back.
He's at his local bar drowning his tears in some Johnny Walker Red.

Now what does the American people know that the wingnuts( and head Wingnut, Cee) don't ?

Just about everything.

Cee pontificates: "the more Iraqis and US soldiers killed, the happier the IMPOTENT LEFT becomes!"...

Nothing could be further from the truth and you know it Cee. I used to think you had some decency and integrity, but now I know that you don't have one ounce of common decency or integrity in that selfish mind of yours. You sir, are pathetic, and nothing but a classic jerk to boot.

We actually care about the troops because we don't want to see one more die for this mad undertaking that never should have been, and SELFISH fools like you accuse those who want to see the madness stopped of rejoicing in the very madness they are trying to stop, but YOU are trying to continue. Your selfishness and hypocracy knows no bounds.

YOU Sir, are the one who doesn't give a happy damn about the 'troops' you so love to quote and use for your own selfish political purposes. YOU Sir, are the one who doesn't give a damned how many more have to die for your pathetic 'vision', that is simply not going to happen.

YOU Sir, are the one who is not willing to do one damned thing yourself for the war effort other than sit on your comfortable sofa and 'cheer' them on, while insulting your political opposition using the lowest common denominator you can think of.

YOU Sir, are the one who has never served his country, and has no intention of ever serving his country. Hell, you don't even want to pay your fair share of taxes to support the war effort.

Cee, YOU are a moral zero!

More facts you won't see posted on Fox:

Nearly six in 10 also say they're not confident the administration will do a good job of handling the tensions with Iran. Just 11 percent are very confident it will handle this issue well; three times as many, 34 percent, are not confident at all.

Underscoring his problems, even among Republicans, just 28 percent are very confident in Bush's ability to deal with Iran, while among Democrats, 55 percent have no confidence whatsoever.

have you even seen "An Inconvenient Truth? YES...U?

Too inconvenient for you ? NO...U?

Have you ever considered that people like you only speak this nonsense on sites like this? NO, I HAVE READ IT IN NEWSPAPERS, MAGAZINES, AND WEBSITES OF ALL KINDS...DO YOU CHECK OUT ANY OF THESE?

That all of the discussion in the world today is how are we going to address the climate change problems, not if it exists?
FIRST OFF, NOT "all of the discussion in the world today is how are we going to address the climate change problems". THERE IS MORE AND MORE PEOPLE PUBLISHING CONTRARY OPINIONS...EVEN THE UN HAS BACKED OFF FROM ABSOLUTE CERTAINY TO A "MAY HAVE". AND LEADERS AND CORPORATIONS DISCUSSING IT EVEN IF THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN IT...CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT IT IS A POLITICAL HOT POTATO AND THEY WANT TO AVOID CONTROVERSY AND STAY PC?

You don't know this ?
APPARENTLY YOU DON'T
KEEP THAT HEAD DOWN, MR OSTRICH

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 12:43 PM

YOUR FRIEND
FRED BEAR

Cee, YOU are a moral zero!

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2007 1:25 PM

But Cee loves to pontificate about God.

He thinks he scores some points there.
Make that a Zero and a half.

"The Democrats in Congress continue to hold the upper hand on Iraq ."

And this means what in the real world.....

What is going on with troop numbers? Up or down?

What is going on with Bush's demand for full funding with 100 MILLION to the Iraq war effort? Yes or no?

You guys are so deluded it's sad....Polls and opinions of "anonymous sources," get NOTHING but pundit points for the 24 hour news cycle.....Big deal.

What is happening to your AGENDA of immediate troop withdrawal....

IT IS GOING DOWN IN FLAMES....

Mmmmm.....why is that?

Impotence....I just hope you guys only have this problem in the political arena.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Want to read more: Check out your own government site.

http://www.epa.gov/climatechange/science/recentcc.html

Like I said, you've got nothing !

Since the Industrial Revolution (around 1750), human activities have substantially added to the amount of heat-trapping greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The burning of fossil fuels and biomass (living matter such as vegetation) has also resulted in emissions of aerosols that absorb and emit heat, and reflect light.

The addition of greenhouse gases and aerosols has changed the composition of the atmosphere. The changes in the atmosphere have likely influenced temperature, precipitation, storms and sea level. However, these features of the climate also vary naturally, so determining what fraction of climate changes are due to natural variability versus human activities is challenging.

Cee thinks the Washington Post, AP, ABC News etc are "anonymous sources,"

Who's the real deluded one , Cee ?

You are standing alone.
The American people are against you.

That's good enough for me.

NO Cee, impotence is how this war of Bush's is turning out.

Success or failure?

It's not even close.

You're a stone cold idiot.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 1:35 PM

So when the Vikings farmed Greenland years ago, it was due to global warming from their pillaging throughout northern Europe and the various Roman and Egyptian Empires in the Meditterranean?

What is it about the (non)character of a liberal who copy/pastes things they think sound smart on the internet all day long?

I think they believe since it's been published somewhere it must be not only fact but intelligent.

Ignorance is bliss and liberalism is blissful ignorance it appears.

Cee won't be back.
He's at his local bar drowning his tears in some Johnny Walker Red.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 1:23 PM

At least cee has good taste and drinks a manly drink, unlike the cheese eatin'/ wine drinkin' loony left!

Oh, contrary to your silly opinion, Mike, I care very deeply about our military.

This is why I support an increase in their numbers that General David Petraeus agrees could make this mission a success....Democrat or Republican plans leaving those there under-manned and not funded will never get my support.

What about you, Mike? Your ruling elites want to have less troops in Iraq trying to achieve stability....who really cares about the troops?

I find it ironic that those who say they support the troops march with people who spit at the same and desecrate memorials dedicated to their memory.

The posters from the left CONTINUOSLY post news about bombings and death and leave it at that.....my response to their glee that the terrorists have been successful in killing more innocents is justified, Mike. Look at the posts above with regard to the attempt on Cheney's life.....glee and jokes.....TWENTY PEOPLE DIED IN THIS TERRORIST ATTACK and the left is gleeful!

Please point your moral outrage towards whom it belongs.....Those who want death and defeat of America instead of victory.

You choose some strange people to defend, Mike.....good luck with that.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Personally, I love "news article" posts from people like Bob...they show the format of an article, but they have no reference of an author or place of publication or anything...just the

HEADLINE

Dateline - Supposed article start blah blah blah blah blah

See I told you so!

Posted by Bob

So when the Vikings farmed Greenland years ago, it was due to global warming from their pillaging throughout northern Europe and the various Roman and Egyptian Empires in the Meditterranean?

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 1:41 PM

Mr. Bear/TT, your wasting your time on these sheep, there heads are buried in gorey's ass so far they can't see straight.

We're going to have an Ice Age. Read the facts!

The s.pole ice is building and the water temps are dropping,but, they seem to avoid that subject.

You morons won't believe your own frigging government.
You won't believe the world's top 1500 scientists from 130 countries.

Who are your sources that trump the United States government and the top climate scientists in the world ?

The big question now is, what will happen on Tuesday night's show? How will Keith spin the attempt on Cheney's life?

He could claim it was never a really serious attempt, that Cheney was stupid for taking a risk, that it's all Bush's fault for going into Afghanistan in the first place, or that we've done something to provoke the Taliban. Any or all of those is possible, because Keith can't resist using this as an excuse to take a shot at Bush or Cheney.

OMG!!!!!

ITS MANBEARPIG!!!!

I'M SUPER-SUPER-SERIAL!!!!!

We're going to have an Ice Age. Read the facts!

Posted by: Rodan at February 27, 2007 1:53 PM

Nice facts.

We're all convinced.

The big question now is, what will happen on Tuesday night's show? How will Keith spin the attempt on Cheney's life?

He could claim it was never a really serious attempt, that Cheney was stupid for taking a risk, that it's all Bush's fault for going into Afghanistan in the first place, or that we've done something to provoke the Taliban. Any or all of those is possible, because Keith can't resist using this as an excuse to take a shot at Bush or Cheney.

Posted by: Billy at February 27, 2007 2:07 PM

Post a comment
There was no attempt on the Great Cheney's life, the bomb was over a mile away, Cheney is bullet proof anyway.

You morons won't believe your own frigging government.
You won't believe the world's top 1500 scientists from 130 countries.

Who are your sources that trump the United States government and the top climate scientists in the world ?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 2:07 PM

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OH...I SEE...YOU BELIEVE YOUR GOVERMENT ON GLOBAL WARMING, BUT THEY LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE

AHHHHHHH

WHAT COLOR IS THE SKY IN YOUR WORLD?????

Personally, I love "news article" posts from people like Bob...they show the format of an article, but they have no reference of an author or place of publication or anything...just the

HEADLINE

Dateline - Supposed article start blah blah blah blah blah

See I told you so!

Posted by Bob

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 1:48 PM

Like this one ?
Have trouble with your vision ?

Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- The nation's top climate scientists are giving "An Inconvenient Truth," Al Gore's documentary on global warming, five stars for accuracy.

The former vice president's movie -- replete with the prospect of a flooded New York City, an inundated Florida, more and nastier hurricanes, worsening droughts, retreating glaciers and disappearing ice sheets -- mostly got the science right, said all 19 climate scientists who had seen the movie or read the book and answered questions from The Associated Press.

But those who have seen it had the same general impression: Gore conveyed the science correctly; the world is getting hotter and it is a manmade catastrophe-in-the-making caused by the burning of fossil fuels.

"Excellent," said William Schlesinger, dean of the Nicholas School of Environment and Earth Sciences at Duke University. "He got all the important material and got it right."

school of environment? I bet he's in the pocket of Exxon!

Still waiting for your sources Teddy Bear.

Where are they?

And let's see if the trump our EPA and the best scientists in the world.

school of environment? I bet he's in the pocket of Exxon!

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 2:13 PM

yeah...Duke University is a shoddy place.

Maybe you haven't heard that many of the global warming denying scientists have been PROVEN to be in Exxon's pockets.

Skipped your mind, right ?

OH...I SEE...YOU BELIEVE YOUR GOVERMENT ON GLOBAL WARMING, BUT THEY LIE ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE

AHHHHHHH

WHAT COLOR IS THE SKY IN YOUR WORLD?????

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 2:10 PM
Superior post, Mr. Bear, their hypocrisy know's no boundaries!

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 2:10 PM
Superior post, Mr. Bear, their hypocrisy know's no boundaries!

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 2:16 PM

The blind cheering on the blind.

You guys are like Abbott and Costello.

Bobby boy---

pay attention...i stated this earlier

go to "google.com"

click on "news"

input search term and click the button

I will let you do it as ther are numerous sources and I don't want you to decry my search terms or anything (plus I tried listing a bunch of the sites previously and it threw up a flag on this site's software as they are afraid of posting websites abuse (and rightly so based on what's happened to them earlier this year)

But once again I point out how your UN scientists have gone from absolutely certain that global warming is man made to "may be" responsible for global warming...YOUR OWN PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO BACKTRACK ON YOU BOBBY!

looney booby, so in your world, any scientist that debunks global warming is "in the pocket of exxon?" genius...............

I admit my mistake It was 2500 scientists, not 1500.

The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) was established by the World Meteorological Organisation and UNEP to assess scientific, technical and socio- economic information relevant for the understanding of climate change, its potential impacts and options for adaptation and mitigation. It is currently finalising its Fourth Assessment Report "Climate Change 2007". The release on Friday 2 February 2007 of the Summary for Policy Makers on "The Physical Science Basis of Climate Change" makes public the first of three technical reports and a comprehensive Synthesis Report to be published this year. The scientific evidence summarised in the report includes peer reviewed published research over the past six years, synthesised and reviewed by some 2500 scientists in 130 countries.

FRIDAY, 02 FEBRUARY 2007: The release of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 4th Assessment: Summary for Policymakers report on the physical science of climate change is a clarion call to those world leaders that are still hesitant to deal pro-actively with the problem and its root causes. The compelling scientific evidence of climate change presented in this report stresses the need for all world leaders to acknowledge publicly that climate change is rapidly becoming a global emergency requiring serious and immediate action.

The IPCC report clearly outlines the unequivocal link between human activity and identified global climate change. Based on vastly improved data, analyses, modelling and understanding of climate change developed over the past six years, the report indicates that global temperatures and sea levels will continue to rise, and unless urgent action is taken, could rise dramatically by the end of the 21st Century. The clock is thus ticking and time is running out for us to avoid major climate change with its attendant real and serious threats to our economies and people’s livelihoods, health, food security, and damage to our ecosystems.

The IPCC report presents convincing evidence from around the world that cumulative greenhouse emissions since the industrial revolution have caused and continues to cause global climate change, and will continue to do so for many decades to come. This will lead to further global temperature increases, sea level rises, ocean acidification, the melting of glaciers, extreme weather phenomena and disruptive changes in regional rainfall and weather patterns.

A British scientific group, the Royal Society, contends that Exxon Mobil is spreading “inaccurate and misleading” information about climate change and is financing groups that misinform the public on the issue.

The Royal Society, a 1,400-member organization that dates back to the 1600’s and has counted Isaac Newton and Albert Einstein as members, asked Exxon Mobil in a letter this month to stop financing these groups and to change its public reports to reflect more accurately the opinions of scientists on the issue.

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 2:10 PM
Superior post, Mr. Bear, their hypocrisy know's no boundaries!

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 2:16 PM

The blind cheering on the blind.

You guys are like Abbott and Costello.

Posted by: Bob at February 27, 2007 2:17 PM

So, booby, when you are proven to be a total, outright, hypocrit you resort to name calling? Not surprised. 9 of 10 of your posts are childish namecalling, you and woozy's trademark.

When proven wrong, focus in on name calling.

I'll accept that as your white flag.

Blah, blah, blah....I can act like Professor Honeydew too.....

Scientists respond to Gore's warnings of climate catastrophe

"The Inconvenient Truth" is indeed inconvenient to alarmists

"Professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, in Australia gives what, for many Canadians, is a surprising assessment: 'Gore's circumstantial arguments are so weak that they are pathetic. It is simply incredible that they, and his film, are commanding public attention.'

"But surely Carter is merely part of what most people regard as a tiny cadre of "climate change skeptics" who disagree with the "vast majority of scientists" Gore cites?

"No; Carter is one of hundreds of highly qualified non-governmental, non-industry, non-lobby group climate experts who contest the hypothesis that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are causing significant global climate change. 'Climate experts' is the operative term here. Why? Because what Gore's 'majority of scientists' think is immaterial when only a very small fraction of them actually work in the climate field.

"Appearing before the Commons Committee on Environment and Sustainable Development last year, Carleton University paleoclimatologist Professor Tim Patterson testified, 'There is no meaningful correlation between CO2 levels and Earth's temperature over this [geologic] time frame. In fact, when CO2 levels were over ten times higher than they are now, about 450 million years ago, the planet was in the depths of the absolute coldest period in the last half billion years.' Patterson asked the committee, 'On the basis of this evidence, how could anyone still believe that the recent relatively small increase in CO2 levels would be the major cause of the past century's modest warming?'

"Patterson concluded his testimony by explaining what his research and 'hundreds of other studies' reveal: on all time scales, there is very good correlation between Earth's temperature and natural celestial phenomena such changes in the brightness of the Sun."

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htm

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And this was back in 2006.....yet the left would have you think there is consensus on human induced global climate change.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Bobbie....bob-u-la....bob-a dub-dub...

I see we are blind because we listen to differing sides of an argument.

But you see because you only listen to one side of an arument and dismiss other views without any review.

Bob, you have reached the level of Fundamental Globo-Warming Apostle of the Global Warming Church...

Congrats!

More from the IPCC:

In particular, the new IPCC report is a wake-up call to the world’s largest emitter, the United States. We applaud the unilateral climate actions taken by the State of California and others and strongly encourage the federal government of the USA to hear the growing groundswell of opinion in that country, and act on their moral obligation to join the global effort under the Kyoto Protocol and future negotiations to combat climate change.

But this report is not just a wake-up call to the USA. It reminds us that we all have to do more to fundamentally change the way we operate and to confront the severe challenges facing us over the next few decades. Though all countries have a common responsibility to address climate change, we do have differentiated responsibilities where the developed countries who are the major cause of the problem must take the lead in addressing it. Nevertheless, we all - developed as well as developing - have to act in accordance with our national capabilities.

booby, the only proven, so far, is you are a hypocrit, to put it nicely. The gov't lies about everything EXCEPT global warming. We got it, loud and clear.

But you see because you only listen to one side of an arument and dismiss other views without any review.
Teddy Bear

I've posted the most comprehensive study the world has ever seen on climate change.
You've posted: nothing.

Thanks for playing.

Have a good day.

That's right booby, go huddle in the corner w/your thumb in your mouth.

Mike, this might interest you in light of your vehement denunciation of Cee.

"Cheney/Wolfowitz/Rumsfeld were the architects of the Iraq War and found the perfect simpleton,Chimpy Mcflightsuit, to pull his strings and put it into action.( the rest has been a glorious failure )......

Posted by: Bob at February 25, 2007 2:01 PM"

In a response I added this footnote:

"* I just wonder why Bob, who posts here with many statements implying that he is an American citizen, would declare the Iraq War a GLORIOUS FAILURE.

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 25, 2007 2:54 PM"

Bob's somewhat torturous answer was:

....."The "glorious failure" was an oxymoron. The "glorious" part represents what your esteemed liars in the White House characterizes the Iraq War( glorious success), and the failure part is the actual reality......."

Posted by: Bob at February 25, 2007 3:10 PM"

I don't buy his lame excuse. If he wanted to use an oxymoron based on his well known opinions it could only be GLORIOUS VICTORY or GLORIOUS SUCCESS. Additionally, I have never heard the Iraq War characterised as 'gloriuos' or anything even close by the administration.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

booby, the only proven, so far, is you are a hypocrit, to put it nicely. The gov't lies about everything EXCEPT global warming. We got it, loud and clear.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 2:29 PM

First of all Mr 3rd grade. There's an E at the end of the word hypocrite. Since you are one, you should learn how to spell it.

2nd: I have posted a study that included scientists from 130 countries, not just one as you claim.

You've been beaten fair and square.
Time to admit it, or shut up.

Anything else, just makes you out to be a bigger fool.

Have a nice day.

I now have work to do and don't have any more time for people who are incapable of learning.

The pathetic Grammie is still on semantics, instead of looking in the mirror at her cheering on our troops to their deaths.

I see the number of saintly beatified Church of Global Warming scientists coming from the mountain top with stone tablets engraved by Algore have dropped from the original 1600 to 1500.

Things like this can shake the most pious of us.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Check your glasses, Grandma, it's 2500.
Which makes you look like a even bigger dunce for going against them.

Bob....

You have not posted anything from the IPCC's study. Nobody has. The study has yet to be released. What WAS released was the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) 4th Assessment: Summary for Policymakers report. As you and your kind are not even clear on your own sources, I suggest YOU continue your studies.

And still no response to their stepping back from being aboslutely certain about man caused global warming to man "may be" responsible.

The pathetic Grammie is still on semantics, instead of looking in the mirror at her cheering on our troops to their deaths.

Posted by: Bob at February 27, 2007 2:39 PM

Here's booby, doing his famous name calling, his automatic reply when he is proven wrong.

And still no response to their stepping back from being aboslutely certain about man caused global warming to man "may be" responsible.

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 2:45 PM

Mr. Bear, he also, refuses to have an explanation to the previous 6 ice ages the Earth has had and the fact that the S. Pole has more ice and colder water temps.

What a surprise!
Our right wing ideologue, Lapdog, drinks the Kool aid on the global warming issue too.
( and ignores the overwhelming evidence of the IPCC)

This simpleton is a hoot !

( Cee couldn't actually accept the science on climate change, because the top scientists agree with Al Gore, who's a dreaded Democrat )

Funny.

Seriously Bob,

What do you do when a report pops up on TV/radio/internet/magazine/newspaper where someone disputes any of you beliefs?

Read/listen/watch

or

Dismis out of hand without review

Just curious...

Your Friend
Fred Bear

I think booby wears a turbin behind closed doors.

Where's Fred bear's and no Name's sources?

How come they are afraid to post them?

Just another day with the OLBYhaters being beaten at their own game.

Where's Fred bear's and no Name's sources?

How come they are afraid to post them?

Just another day with the OLBYhaters being beaten at their own game.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 2:53 PM

---------------------

while you are not Bobby-boy, I will post the reply I gave to him:
Bobby boy---

pay attention...i stated this earlier

go to "google.com"

click on "news"

input search term and click the button

I will let you do it as ther are numerous sources and I don't want you to decry my search terms or anything (plus I tried listing a bunch of the sites previously and it threw up a flag on this site's software as they are afraid of posting websites abuse (and rightly so based on what's happened to them earlier this year)

But once again I point out how your UN scientists have gone from absolutely certain that global warming is man made to "may be" responsible for global warming...YOUR OWN PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO BACKTRACK ON YOU BOBBY!

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 2:20 PM

You nailed it Fred Bear......also......

These 1500-2500 scientists......What are these scientists' areas of expertise.....I'll bet a MINORITY are actual climate change cause experts....MOST are biologists who have no great claims of being climate change cause experts, only climate impact experts.

Please get back to us on that, professor.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

THE OREGONIAN:
The climate scientists speak
Last week's international report on global warming has no political agenda, just startling new urgency about the threat
Sunday, February 04, 2007

T he world's leading climate scientists are pretty much finished arguing over what's causing global climate change.

It's "very likely" that humankind is to blame, they declared with unprecedented certainty last week.

Not just "likely," as the consortium of 2,500 researchers from 130 countries said in their last report, six years ago, but "very likely," with more than 90 percent certainty.

Historically, that's akin to the 16th-century declaration by Copernicus that the Earth "very likely" revolves around the sun. Galileo and other leading scientists subsequently embraced that theory and paid dearly for it. Church inquisitors forced Galileo to his knees, under the threat of torture and death, to renounce all belief in Copernican theories.

Today's climate scientists face no such persecution, just medieval-style rejection by leaders of the world's most powerful nation. Last week's new international report, containing the strongest language ever on global climate change, is not likely to spark a meaningful response from the current White House.

The scientific consortium, called the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, found virtually conclusive evidence that human-generated pollution -- carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide -- is the principal culprit behind an accelerating rise in global temperatures. The group also said the warming will be unstoppable for centuries, even if humankind immediately begins to reduce emissions of those greenhouse gases.

The report is not alarmist in tone. It suggests no political agenda. In matter-of-fact prose, however, it lays out the real danger of rising sea levels, intensifying storms and intolerable heat waves. It's clear the United States must begin providing global leadership to reduce fossil-fuel consumption and preserve natural habitat that helps protect the Earth's atmosphere.

Unfortunately, because this subject has become so politicized in this country, some Americans just aren't going to "believe in" human-caused global warming. Their ranks will include a handful of climatologists, too, although it's an increasingly small camp.

We're pretty sure which camp Copernicus and Galileo would be in. It's time for the White House to emerge from the Middle Ages, too.

THE OREGONIAN:
The climate scientists speak
Last week's international report on global warming has no political agenda, just startling new urgency about the threat
Sunday, February 04, 2007 The oregonian, a whacko left wing rag, nice work, bk. How long did take you to dig that crap up?

Just for the record:
Nobody cares what you right wing bigots think.
Especially you Cee, who's been proven wrong more times than George Bush has mispronounced the word"nuclear."

We will trust science.It's all we have.

You think we're going to believe the right wingers, who have been wrong about...let me see...
EVERYTHING !

You're all a joke and an embarrassment to educated people everywhere.

Last week's international report on global warming has no political agenda, just startling new urgency about the threat
Sunday, February 04, 2007 The oregonian, a whacko left wing rag, nice work, bk. How long did take you to dig that crap up?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 3:01 PM

How many times do you have to be proven an idiot before you shut the hell up?

The Oregonian is the state of Oregon's leading newspaper.
Jesu.How stupid can you be !

You're all a joke and an embarrassment to educated people everywhere.

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pa at February 27, 2007 3:03 PM

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And what level did you reach?

The oregonian, a whacko left wing rag, nice work, bk. How long did take you to dig that crap up?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

The Oregonian is the state of Oregon's leading newspaper.
Jesu.How stupid can you be !

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 3:05 PM

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And God Knows Oregon is the most conservative state in the union

Just for the record:
Nobody cares what you right wing bigots think.
Especially you Cee, who's been proven wrong more times than George Bush has mispronounced the word"nuclear."

We will trust science.It's all we have.

You think we're going to believe the right wingers, who have been wrong about...let me see...
EVERYTHING !

You're all a joke and an embarrassment to educated people everywhere.

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pa at February 27, 2007 3:03 PM

Fox News #1, Rush #1, Hannity #2, Savage #3. Nobody cares what right wingers think? Could you be any more off base? Wrong?

Fred Bear, I had a comment rejected last week. The only thing I could think was because perhaps one of the addresses I had listed for sourcing and additional info. One was an official US government site and the other two were straight forward.

I couldn't, though, think why any of them would cause that.

Could you clue me in.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

And what level did you reach?

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 3:05 PM

I have two master's degrees.
MSW( Social work) and the other in literature.

and u?

Hey....Rosie O'Donnell (Bushkill) is here to set me straight!

How's that troop withdrawal resolution going, Rosie? Oh, and that 100 Million dollar war funding.....Is Bush going to get what he demands from The Congress?.....

Even though you say he is wrong on both counts?

See my CNN cut/paste jobber a la Professor Honeydew (Bob) at 12:52 PM.....

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/02/27/flailing.over.iraq.ap/index.html

It's like shooting fish in a barrel....

Where's OZ (Colbert) or Coward Watch....they should be next!

Reality sucks to people like Rosie.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Grammie: maybe your comment was rejected b/c of its content.

Just a thought.

The Oregonian is the state of Oregon's leading newspaper.
Jesu.How stupid can you be !

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 3:05 PM

This, you are probably right about, Oregon is a socialist state.

keeping score between Bob and Cee on climate change has been tough but here is a breakdown.

Bob says that:

-- 2500 expert scientist in 130 countries believe in global warming

-- the Environmental protection agency agrees with this assessment.

--that Royal society a group that counted Newton and Einstein as members not only believes in Global warming but claims that scientist who against it are in the pocket of Exxon Mobile one of the wealthiest corporations in the world.

he neglected to mention That:

-- US National Research Council, believes in global warming.

-- that the American Meteorological Society
believes in climate change.

-- Federal Climate Change Science Program(Started by Bush) believes in Climate change

-- American Institute of Physics believe in climate change

-- American Association of State Climatologists (AASC) Believe in climate change.

--that Joint statement on the Science of Climate Change, issued by:

-- the Australian Academy of Sciences,

-- Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts,

-- Brazilian Academy of Sciences,

-- Royal Society of Canada,

-- Caribbean Academy of Sciences,

-- Chinese Academy of Sciences, French Academy of Sciences,

-- German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina, Indian National

-- Science Academy, Indonesian Academy of Sciences,

-- Royal Irish Academy,

-- Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy),

-- Academy of Sciences Malaysia,

-- Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand,

-- Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and Royal Society (UK). All support Climate change.

even president George W. Bush and Bill O’Reilly recognizes climate change.

Cee Responds with a stinging rebuke from:

Professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, Who says Gore is wrong.

he neglected to mention that:

-- American Association of Petroleum Geologists. believe climate change is not real.

Way to go Cee! Who could possibly believe in global warming while scientist Bob Carter says it false!

Conclusion: Nothing anyone says WILL EVER CONVINCE CEE, as long as he can find someone who thinks global warming is false that is all he will need.

The totally discredited Cee pokes his head up to be shot down again.

That's like shooting fish in a barrel.

How's your Iraq War going?

How's Bush's ratings going?

No amount of evidence will ever convince the lowly thinkers like Grammie, Cee, Fred bear etc.
on global warming and the Iraq War.

Heck.They think they still won the midterms !

burger king, get your drug dealer on the phone, he gave you some bad stuff today.

Janet, I doubt if Bob or myself would call Iraq a 'glorious' anything, I know I wouldn't.

"Grammie: maybe your comment was rejected b/c of its content.

Just a thought.

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania at February 27, 2007 3:10 PM"

As usual, you are mixed up and confused. You have obviously confused me with one of your soul mates who pontificate from the sewer with sewer language.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Keeping score:

Bob: off the charts

Cee: one

Fred bear: zero

No name: forget it.

Oh, and the IPCC report.....

"...the fourth assessment report specifically requires changes to be made to the body that will bring it into line with the summary statement.

"'These people are openly declaring that they are going to commit scientific misconduct that will be paid for by the United Nations,' Harvard University physicist Lubos Motl wrote on his website last week.

"'If they find an error in the summary, they won't fix it,' Motl said. 'Instead, they will 'adjust' the technical report so that it looks consistent'"

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewCulture.asp?Page=/Culture/archive/200702/CUL20070202a.html

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Oh yeah....this is science (sarcasm).......

Again, Rosie.....get your facts straight and stop posting editorials from THE OREGONIAN as fact.

What about the CV's on those 1500-2500 scientists? Are a majority of them climate change cause experts or not?

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Grammie-

I believe they set up a system whenever people post sites (especially multiple sites) because of the problems they encountered when attacked by those who wanted the site shut down and posted XXX rated spam.

Bushkill-

Maters in Busness Administration
Bachelors of Science in : German (lang. and culture); Political Science; & Economics

If anyone knows the sewer, it's Grammie. We should all listen and learn.

"Janet, I doubt if Bob or myself would call Iraq a 'glorious' anything, I know I wouldn't.

Posted by: Mike at February 27, 2007 3:17 PM"

You may doubt it about Bob, but all you need to do is use the info in my post to verify Bob's statements and become certain.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Just for the record:
Nobody cares what you right wing bigots think.
Especially you Cee, who's been proven wrong more times than George Bush has mispronounced the word"nuclear."

We will trust science.It's all we have.

You think we're going to believe the right wingers, who have been wrong about...let me see...
EVERYTHING !

You're all a joke and an embarrassment to educated people everywhere.

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pa at February 27, 2007 3:03 PM

Fox News #1, Rush #1, Hannity #2, Savage #3. Nobody cares what right wingers think? Could you be any more off base? Wrong?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 3:07 PM

Burger King, can you explain why conservative media holds all the top spots, since no one cares what we think?

Bushkill-

Maters in Busness Administration
Bachelors of Science in : German (lang. and culture); Political Science; & Economics

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 3:19 PM

Didn't quite pass that spelling course, I see.

Did your fake diploma spell it like that too ?

You may doubt it about Bob, but all you need to do is use the info in my post to verify Bob's statements and become certain.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at February 27, 2007 3:20 PM

The supersleuth, watchhawk, Hammy Hawkins is on this caper.

We're all bolted to our seats waiting for continuing developments.

OMG! Bushkill, you caught me. I made a spelling error while typing quickly on a website. That must immediately contradict all value to any of my posts. I guess you have never made a typing error? oh wait...is that a space between the last o of too and the question mark? I guess that shows your diplomas are fake too ?

Wow, the conservatives sure left this one alone. Where is Janet Hawkins or Cee when Exxon needs them?

"keeping score between Bob and Cee on climate change has been tough but here is a breakdown.

Bob says that:

-- 2500 expert scientist in 130 countries believe in global warming

-- the Environmental protection agency agrees with this assessment.

--that Royal society a group that counted Newton and Einstein as members not only believes in Global warming but claims that scientist who against it are in the pocket of Exxon Mobile one of the wealthiest corporations in the world.

he neglected to mention That:

-- US National Research Council, believes in global warming.

-- that the American Meteorological Society
believes in climate change.

-- Federal Climate Change Science Program(Started by Bush) believes in Climate change

-- American Institute of Physics believe in climate change

-- American Association of State Climatologists (AASC) Believe in climate change.

--that Joint statement on the Science of Climate Change, issued by:

-- the Australian Academy of Sciences,

-- Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts,

-- Brazilian Academy of Sciences,

-- Royal Society of Canada,

-- Caribbean Academy of Sciences,

-- Chinese Academy of Sciences, French Academy of Sciences,

-- German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina, Indian National

-- Science Academy, Indonesian Academy of Sciences,

-- Royal Irish Academy,

-- Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy),

-- Academy of Sciences Malaysia,

-- Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand,

-- Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and Royal Society (UK). All support Climate change.

even president George W. Bush and Bill O’Reilly recognizes climate change.

Cee Responds with a stinging rebuke from:

Professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, Who says Gore is wrong.

he neglected to mention that:

-- American Association of Petroleum Geologists. believe climate change is not real.

Way to go Cee! Who could possibly believe in global warming while scientist Bob Carter says it false!

Conclusion: Nothing anyone says WILL EVER CONVINCE CEE, as long as he can find someone who thinks global warming is false that is all he will need."

OMG! Bushkill, you caught me. I made a spelling error while typing quickly on a website. That must immediately contradict all value to any of my posts. I guess you have never made a typing error? oh wait...is that a space between the last o of too and the question mark? I guess that shows your diplomas are fake too ?

Posted by: Fred Bear at February 27, 2007 3:26 PM

This know as grasping at short straws, a common olbyloon trait. Also, avoiding questions, like why does conservative media hold all the top spots when no one supposedy cares what we think?

Doesn't matter that we have Walter Reed scandals, an ever mounting casualty list of our troops, global warming deniers up the wazoo,

Hammy Hawkins is more concerned with two words Bob said.

You're a great American Sean Hannity.
Oops, that's the obligatory opening for guests on the Hannity radio show.

You're a partisan deluded hack, Grammie.

Now, that's more truthful !

Keeping score:

Bob: off the charts

Again....these scientists are not climate change cause experts....some are entemologists, biochemists.....some are not even versed in climate science.

The AGENDA of those supporting the future impact of human induced global climate change makes them suspect....but that simply doesn't seem to matter to the left in this debate.

Also, "believing" in global warming is very different than saying human induced climate change is a fact that can be reversed by law, policy, etc.......The environmental changes are real.....I disagree that IT IS A PROVEN FACT human activity is the sole cause.

Please get back to me on those "experts."

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania at February 27, 2007 3:29 PM

Bushkill listens to Hannity? Bushkill is a closet conservative! Are you gonna come out of the closet there BKFpa?

Now Burger King is stealing lines from J$ and Bob Cox! Mixed in w/some childish name calling...

cee also note that on their list is the EPA...so they will believe the gvt when it comes to this, but not other things

how malleable of them!

We're still waiting for "no name" to explain why he thinks the Joint Chiefs of Staff are " total crap"

He sure bugged out of that one !

...while he asks "why does conservative media hold all the top spots when no one supposedy cares what we think"?

They are the top money makers b/c idiots like you swallow whole every bit of their lies!

Didn't you love when Hannity had the Countdown to the Midterms?
" 28 more days until the Republicans keep control of Congress".
"2 more days until the GOP keeps control of Congress"

"Ahhhhhhhhhh. doesn't mean anything that WE lost. We still have all of our braindead listeners who swallow everything we say."

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahqahahahahahah

"Again....these scientists are not climate change cause experts....some are entemologists, biochemists.....some are not even versed in climate science."

So according to cee everyone from the:

1) the Environmental protection agency,
2)the American Meteorological Society,
3) Federal Climate Change Science Program(Started by Bush)
4) American Association of State Climatologists (AASC)

is not a climate expert but instead a entemologists, biochemists even if they work for the american association of STATE FREAKING CLIMATOLOGITS.

As I was saying mere evidence will never convince Cee.

A childish answer, to say the least. "Divert".

Rosie (Bushkill) worries....

"Hammy Hawkins is more concerned with two words Bob said."

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Because you and the professor have shown you are happy with news about terrorists' victories over the forces in Iraq trying to keep them at bay. We need to know the truth about people like you, Rosie, who want more Americans and innocent Iraqis dead so that your agenda may be advanced!

"Smiting the nose despite the face."

How about that toothless resolution, Rosie?
The money, Rosie? 100 Million for Iraq?
Any impeachment hearings scheduled yet, Rosie?

More smiting to come, Rosie?

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

They are the top money makers b/c idiots like you swallow whole every bit of their lies!

Didn't you love when Hannity had the Countdown to the Midterms?
" 28 more days until the Republicans keep control of Congress".
"2 more days until the GOP keeps control of Congress"

"Ahhhhhhhhhh. doesn't mean anything that WE lost. We still have all of our braindead listeners who swallow everything we say."

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahqahahahahahah

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 3:37 PM

So, einstein, we're all idiots, except you? Oh, and brain dead? Stupid, stupid, dumb, dumb, Bush is bad, Cheney is bad, olbyloon lameness.

Cee, fred bear and No name make great sense.

We should always take the opposite view of the Democrats even if they have the world's scientists on their side.
Who are the scientists?
Are they as smart as George Bush?
Of course not.

If our leaders like Rush, Hannity and Malkin say something, it's our JOB to believe them.

Scientists are only eggheads.
ALl they do is study and learn things.
We don't go for that kind of stuff.
We believe what we're told.
Right Fred bear?
Right Cee ?

"Also, "believing" in global warming is very different than saying human induced climate change is a fact that can be reversed by law, policy, etc.......The environmental changes are real.....I disagree that IT IS A PROVEN FACT human activity is the sole cause."

When I say that the gazillion organization endorse climate change I mean they endorse the idea that it is real and that man made activity is the most likely cause.

All o ye faithful have missed the entire point.

Science is NOT in any way a BELIEF system. Science is based on demonstrable and verifiable every time it is tested laws. That does not mean a consensus, an ostracise and shut up other scientists and absolutely not a political system that attempts to bury any conflicting research and findings.

The ubiquitous slurs that RWs don't BELIEVE in global Warming because they are yada, yada, yada. All those crying out to silence and destroy any and all heretical scientists are the Inquisitioners of the modern day.

And as in earlier centuries, you self righteously proclaim your absolute lock on TRUTH and the duty that imposes upon you to light the pyres under your heretical enemies.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Posted by: Leftwing guy at February 27, 2007 3:39 PM

There have been known dissenters at most of those

None of the gorey loons have explained the previous 6 ice ages! Wasn't that in the science fiction movie? Oh, he conveniently left that out, shocker.......

Cee must be OCD.
He keeps asking questions that have been answered by a number of people.

Is this right wing loon for real ?

"We should always take the opposite view of the Democrats even if they have the world's scientists on their side."

So, you're claiming 100% of the world scientists think global climate is greatly impacted by human activity?

Um....again, this is not true....there are many climate change cause experts who do not agree that human activity has a huge impact on global temperature or climate......But again, being demagogic seems to be a prerequisite for this debate and I'll pass on going down that road with regard to HIGCC.....

The Iraq war however.....I'll oblige the right side of my brain to let loose on the leftist losers posting today!

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Whatever Grammie said, it must make sense.

We can believe Hannity, Savage , right wing blogs or we can believe scientists.

Not even close.
Scientists lose.

Earlier people were discussing the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and who should be credited for it more... Dems or Republicans.

Someone said Republicans were more responsible because the voted for it in greater OVERALL percentages. True, but you need to look deeper.

It's relevant to breakdown the vote by geography... northern lawmakers as opposed to southern...

The original House version:

Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)

The Senate version:

Southern Democrats: 1-20 (5%-95%)
Southern Republicans: 0-1 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 45-1 (98%-2%)
Northern Republicans: 27-5 (84%-16%)

Interesting... NOT ONE SINGLE SOUTHERN REPUBLICAN had the balls to vote for the Civil Rights Act. Now, Dems were no heroes either. Only 8 southern Dems voted for it.

BUT - They had more to lose by casting those votes.

Which is why a higher percentage of Republicans voted for it - they weren't in the south to begin with. The minority GOP party was mostly in the north and had nothing to lose by voting for the Act. The Southern Republicans who did have a risk, chose not to do the right thing (as did the majority of southern Dems).

So, while a higher percentage of Repubs voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964, I think we can all see it's because their asses weren't in the hopper. And by virtue of the fact that NOT ONE SOUTHER REPUBLICAN DID VOTE FOR IT... it's safe to say that if the GOP were in control of the congress and south in 1964, we'd still be a segregated society.

Lastly, it WAS a democratic president who signed the thing.

man made activity is the most likely cause.

Posted by: Leftwing guy at February 27, 2007 3:45 PM

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Nonononono

you guys are dead balls on absolute certain that global warming is caused by man----

the IPCC slips back to say may now...what happened to your certainty?

will they slip further in the future when they still can't get their computer models to work?

I'm proud that Cee is responding to my lame posts.
He must think like me.

Wow !

The Iraq War is a great War , Cee.
It's been a womderful success.
George Bush was put on earth by Jesus to kill people.
So he kills a few thousand kids and women.
At least he's killing someone.

Not like those Democrats would do.
They'd wave the surrender flag is that were in charge.
We'd all be speaking Muslim and drinking from the Koran.

God Bless our great leader, George W. Bush.

Lastly, if you want to break it down even further...

A higher percentage of Northern House Dems voted for the civil rights act than Northern House Repubs...

As did a higher percentage of Southern House Dems than southern House Repubs...

Ditto Northern Senate Dems...

Ditto Southern Senate Dems...

Go figure.

"Science is NOT in any way a BELIEF system. Science is based on demonstrable and verifiable every time it is tested laws. That does not mean a consensus, an ostracise and shut up other scientists and absolutely not a political system that attempts to bury any conflicting research and findings."

I agree. So will you right wingers please stop trying to shutup the majority of scientist who beleive global warming is real and man made?

"The ubiquitous slurs that RWs don't BELIEVE in global Warming because they are yada, yada, yada. All those crying out to silence and destroy any and all heretical scientists are the Inquisitioners of the modern day."

Right, because bringing up that virtually ever major scintific body on the planet beleives in Global warming is hertical and as long as their are Experts like you around ready to question we must take you seriously.

"And as in earlier centuries, you self righteously proclaim your absolute lock on TRUTH and the duty that imposes upon you to light the pyres under your heretical enemies."

I know you are fond of biblical metaphors but debate that is not. There are scientist that beleive global warming is false. but given that they are very small minority trusting in the majority of experts makes perfect sense. if you don't (unless you become and expert yourself) You are a fool. Janet you are a fool.

Posted by: James at February 27, 2007 3:53 PM
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That may be the most convoluted post of the day, James. What the heck does goegraphy have to do with it when the argument was over parties? What was the breakdown east-west? Age of representative breakdown? (you know the "key demo") What was the economic breakdown of the the representatives? Religion? Sexual preference?

More LOGICAL and nonemotional analysis of the IPCC by Pete DuPont....

"Earlier this month the U.N.'s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change released a summary of its fourth five-year report. Although the full report won't be out until May, the summary has reinvigorated the global warming discussion.

"While global warming alarmism has become a daily American press feature, the IPCC, in its new report, is backtracking on its warming predictions. While Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" warns of up to 20 feet of sea-level increase, the IPCC has halved its estimate of the rise in sea level by the end of this century, to 17 inches from 36. It has reduced its estimate of the impact of global greenhouse-gas emissions on global climate by more than one-third, because, it says, pollutant particles reflect sunlight back into space and this has a cooling effect.

"The IPCC confirms its 2001 conclusion that global warming will have little effect on the number of typhoons or hurricanes the world will experience, but it does not note that there has been a steady decrease in the number of global hurricane days since 1970--from 600 to 400 days, according to Georgia Tech atmospheric scientist Peter Webster.

"The IPCC does not explain why from 1940 to 1975, while carbon dioxide emissions were rising, global temperatures were falling, nor does it admit that its 2001 "hockey stick" graph showing a dramatic temperature increase beginning in 1970s had omitted the Little Ice Age and Medieval Warming temperature changes, apparently in order to make the new global warming increases appear more dramatic. "

See more CALM analysis at....oh my THE WSJ!.....

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pdupont/

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"So, you're claiming 100% of the world scientists think global climate is greatly impacted by human activity? "

No, there is a consensus that it is real. Just like there is a consensus that cigarettes cause cancer. there are doctors who beleive cigerettes don't cause cancer. are you with them too?

I will check back later to see if any of you gorey loons that consider yourself global warming experts because you wasted $10 on a science fiction movie can explain the fact we have had 6 previous ice ages. I am guessing you will continue to be completely silent like you "experts" have been since I first asked the question last night.
No one has had the balls to touch it!

"I will check back later to see if any of you gorey loons that consider yourself global warming experts because you wasted $10 on a science fiction movie can explain the fact we have had 6 previous ice ages. I am guessing you will continue to be completely silent like you "experts" have been since I first asked the question last night.
No one has had the balls to touch it!"

Gosh who wouldn't beleive you when:

I will check back later to see if any of you gorey loons that consider yourself global warming experts because you wasted $10 on a science fiction movie can explain the fact we have had 6 previous ice ages. I am guessing you will continue to be completely silent like you "experts" have been since I first asked the question last night.
No one has had the balls to touch it!

Did I mention that.

"2500 expert scientist in 130 countries believe in global warming

-- the Environmental protection agency agrees with this assessment.

--that Royal society a group that counted Newton and Einstein as members not only believes in Global warming but claims that scientist who against it are in the pocket of Exxon Mobile one of the wealthiest corporations in the world.

he neglected to mention That:

-- US National Research Council, believes in global warming.

-- that the American Meteorological Society
believes in climate change.

-- Federal Climate Change Science Program(Started by Bush) believes in Climate change

-- American Institute of Physics believe in climate change

-- American Association of State Climatologists (AASC) Believe in climate change.

--that Joint statement on the Science of Climate Change, issued by:

-- the Australian Academy of Sciences,

-- Royal Flemish Academy of Belgium for Sciences and the Arts,

-- Brazilian Academy of Sciences,

-- Royal Society of Canada,

-- Caribbean Academy of Sciences,

-- Chinese Academy of Sciences, French Academy of Sciences,

-- German Academy of Natural Scientists Leopoldina, Indian National

-- Science Academy, Indonesian Academy of Sciences,

-- Royal Irish Academy,

-- Accademia Nazionale dei Lincei (Italy),

-- Academy of Sciences Malaysia,

-- Academy Council of the Royal Society of New Zealand,

-- Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and Royal Society (UK). All support Climate change.

even president George W. Bush and Bill O’Reilly recognizes climate change

Why again should anyone listen to anyhting you have to say?

Lastly, if you want to break it down even further...

A higher percentage of Northern House Dems voted for the civil rights act than Northern House Repubs...

As did a higher percentage of Southern House Dems than southern House Repubs...

Ditto Northern Senate Dems...

Ditto Southern Senate Dems...

Go figure.

Posted by: James at February 27, 2007 3:56 PM

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by your numbers 107 southern dems voted against civil right while only 11 southern republicans voted against it...so almost 10 times as many southern dems voted against civil rights than republicans

To Leftwing guy....

INDEPENDENT, prospective, placebo controlled, double-blind studies guide my medical practice.......these are the TOOLS with which real scientists test hypothesis....

BTW, IRREGARDLESS OF CONSENSUS....many retrospective studies of HIGH scientific caliber have shown a VERY significant increased risk of developing lung CA with smoking cigarettes....the actual mechanism has yet to be discovered.

Climate change "science" IS FAR removed from this level of scientific discipline....It is, in my opinion, frequently junk science that relies on assumptions not usually allowed by the scientific community. It is also very much driven by ideologic (see all the posts above), economic and "social justice" forces....unlike REAL science.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

No, there is a consensus that it is real. Just like there is a consensus that cigarettes cause cancer. there are doctors who beleive cigerettes don't cause cancer. are you with them too?

Posted by: Leftwing guy at February 27, 2007 4:01 PM

Cee, Fred bear and the rest are consulting their republican manuals on that one. They'll get back to you in a jif.

He, he, he....

I went to the WSJ site and found this gem of a response to DuPont's op ed.....

"Better Off Without Most of Us
Michael Foley - Portland, Maine

"The article omits the point that past global warming periods coincided with elevated CO2 levels in the atmosphere, brought about by natural occurrences like volcanic activity. Today, as a result of the burning of fossil fuels, it is human activity that is the primary source of atmospheric CO2. This is undisputed within scientific circles.

"As for the banning of DDT for the good of the food chain, at the expense of human cases of malaria, I go with the environment. Under any circumstances, the world would be a better place if three quarters of us died tonight in our sleep."

###
Yep......the environment over human life.....this is another wonderful attribute of the radical left's agenda that requires belief in the dogma that is HIGCC.

This response says it nicely for me....

"It is a testament to the persuasive power of the left that we are even discussing this, a manufactured non-issue which is their typical modus operandi, a cover for their hidden agenda. And this power, to intimidate, to stifle dissent and debate, to force a questionable theory down our throats, is more alarming than anything Global Warming hysteria can conjure up. It threatens something fundamental and sacred: the truth and our quest to find it. Science should be allowed to freely explore earth's climate, wherever all the facts lead, without being required to adhere to Al Gore's orthodoxy."

"Your points are taken. Unfortunately, global warming isn't about climate, it's about scaring people into letting other people like Al Gore impose a proven failure of a political system--socialism--on the rest of us. They can't win on facts so they have to resort to fear mongering, and the media and "academia" care more about promoting (ill)liberal politics than science."

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"by your numbers 107 southern dems voted against civil right while only 11 southern republicans voted against it...so almost 10 times as many southern dems voted against civil rights than republicans"

Which is why the original poster said that the Democrats in the South weren't much better than their Republican brethren.

Reading is fundamental.

"I agree. So will you right wingers please stop trying to shutup the majority of scientist who beleive global warming is real and man made?"

You are confused. I, and no one else I've seen, has made any effort to shut up the majority. The majority, or at least their spokesmen, are everywhere calling for the suppression of any disagreement.

There is a large segment who have called for the decertification of scientists and newsman who report anything not in lock step with the majority. They liken scientists whose work disagrees to holocaust deniers.

"I know you are fond of biblical metaphors but debate that is not. There are scientist that beleive global warming is false. but given that they are very small minority trusting in the majority of experts makes perfect sense.

You make my point here. Science in your world view is a consensus. To my mind, what makes perfect sense is trusting in whoever has the best science. Galileo went against centuries of religious and scientific beliefs. In your world we would not have ever admitted that the earth revolved around the sun.

"Right, because bringing up that virtually ever major scintific body on the planet beleives in Global warming is hertical and as long as their are Experts like you around ready to question we must take you seriously."

You lost me here. What in the hell are you trying to say?

"I know you are fond of biblical metaphors but debate that is not. There are scientist that beleive global warming is false. but given that they are very small minority trusting in the majority of experts makes perfect sense. if you don't (unless you become and expert yourself) You are a fool. Janet you are a fool."

What biblical metaphor? I referenced the Middle Ages and The Inquisition.

And again, you prove my point. You are locked in with the consensus, which you agreed is not a scientific approach.

You may be wise and with the majority and still be DEAD WRONG.

I may be a fool and with the minority and RIGHT.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

bkfpa

there used to be a consensus the earth was flat

are u w/ them too?

Cee, meet Rudy Ramirez. He posted at 3:37 PM above. What a breathe of fresh air Rudy is for all the clear thinking right wingers.

Cee, you and Rudy should get together sometime. You two can discuss in detail how your president is a great, great man and how misunderstood he is by the rest of us. You two can prophecize together about how God is working his miracles through George W Bush and how someday, he will be seen as the greatest president who ever lived. You, Rudy, and God all know this because you fellows are SO much smarter than all these earthly humans who just can't see through the fog.

It is, in my opinion, frequently junk science that relies on assumptions not usually allowed by the scientific community. It is also very much driven by ideologic (see all the posts above), economic and "social justice" forces....unlike REAL science.

There you have it. Cee's republican manual has spoken.
Maybe we should tell those 2500 scientists that this pseudo doctor doesn't think they're real scientists.

And the weird get weirder !

Cee, you and Rudy should get together sometime.

HEY don't forget me.

mutt, what's it like to be alone in your beliefs?

'There is no censorship - it's much more advanced. I would call it a system of contacts and agreements between the Kremlin and the heads of television networks. There is no need to start every day with instructions. It is all done with winks and nods. They meet at the end of the week, and the problem, for TV and even in the printed press, is that self-censorship is worse than any other kind. Journalists know - they can feel - what is allowed and what is not.'

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,,2019157,00.html

Keith Olbermann loves this site...because comments posted here are no longer about him...hahahahah..MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!

bkfpa

there used to be a consensus the earth was flat

are u w/ them too?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 4:28 PM

If gorey put that in his science fiction movie, bet your ass they would be all over that one!

bkfpa

there used to be a consensus the earth was flat

are u w/ them too?

The global warming deniers are the ones that would think that the world was flat during Columbus' day.Just like they would think the Earth was the center of the universe during Copernicus' day.

These people didn't trust the scientists of their day. Just like you don't in 2007.

"Mutt, what's it like to be alone in your beliefs"

Gosh, it's so lonely out here with the majority of the American people, not to mention the world.

I wish I COULD think as deeply as you and Rudy Ramirez!

I like how Burger King aka bkfpa completely dismissed the FACT that right wing media holds all of the top positions, yet, he is mentally deranged enough to say they are #1 because people that listen to them are "stupid." I rest my case.

Which is why the original poster said that the Democrats in the South weren't much better than their Republican brethren.

Reading is fundamental.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 4:28 PM
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No, the ORIGINAL poster said that Dems were responsible for passing civil rights not Republicans. Fred Bear then pointed out that higher percentages of Republicans voted for civil rights than Democrats.

Reading IS fundamental. Try it sometime!

Keith Olbermann loves this site...because comments posted here are no longer about him...hahahahah..MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!!!

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 4:31 PM

We're just taking a little break, hammering someone so hammerable gets boring, sometimes.

Bottom line is:
Do we take action now and try to thwart the possible disastrous affects of climate change and possibly be wrong...
or do nothing and risk the earth slipping away past the point of no return.

Let's ask a young person( who's going to be around in 50 years) what would be the smarter thing to do ?

But even this question doesn't matter much.
The world has decided that it's time to take action now and they are.( no matter how much you Rwer's stamp your feet)

http://openpr.com/news/15667/Urban-Transport-Policy-in-Europe-Meeting-City-Demands-for-Green-Logistics.html

bkfpa-

sorry you are incorrect....

if you want to be the side of the consensus, you get to be the side of the flat earth and theside of the earth at the center of the universe....

the outside the box scientists who were alone or very small minority went againt the consensus, the same way that global warming caused by man deniers are

read my 4:42 post.
It doesn't really matter what you say.

Oh yes, personal attacks to end the debate....feels good to see no actual rebuttal from those who have come to defend their great cause.

Please tell me how HIGCC has been "proven." Was it through strict scientific protocols that have been replicated many times over....independent of funding influences, publishing influences, and publicity?

IF you really look into it, you will be very surprised what you find.....But you won't, because you want to accept the dogma claimed as science.

Please try to address the specific questions instead of showing your weakness in sophomoric, personal attacks.

I won't hold my breath.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

read my 4:42 post.
It doesn't really matter what you say.

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pa at February 27, 2007 4:48 PM

The fact you are hollow between the ears is obvious, only an imbocile would say what you said, think about it, if you can.

Well BKFpa---we need to spend as much money as possible on space colonization...the sun will go out or we will get hit by an asteroid (UN scientists are discussing this second one now). We need to find other planets to live on before we get wiped out, so as you can tell gloabl warming on earth means squat (taking your logic to a further point)

Still waiting for "no name" to get some courage answer why he thinks the Joint Chiefs are "total crap".

Why are you so scared to answer, lame one?

"The global warming deniers are the ones that would think that the world was flat during Columbus' day.Just like they would think the Earth was the center of the universe during Copernicus' day.

These people didn't trust the scientists of their day. Just like you don't in 2007.

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pa at February 27, 2007 4:33 PM"

Do you want to clarify this bit of mish mash.

In the 1500s Copernicus, Galileo and Bruno were the equivalent to those scientist's who question some or all of the Global Warming priests today.

As for your erroneous 'Flat Earth" belief in the 1400s:

"We all know that Christopher Columbus encountered stiff resistance about his idea of sailing off West to try and reach the East Indies. Many of us have laboured under the impression that people were concerned that he would sail off the edge of the Earth which was widely believed to be flat. History is thought to have vindicated Columbus against those filled with the Christian superstition of a flat Earth who held on to old fashioned beliefs. A minority of people are even under the impression that Galileo's trial centred on the subject rather than whether the Earth orbited the sun.

It comes as some surprise, therefore, to find that Columbus was wrong and his critics were right - not because the world is actually flat after all, but because at the time everyone knew it was a globe and were arguing about how big it was. The idea that the uncouth people of the Middle Ages thought the Earth was flat is an example of the myth that has been propagated since the nineteenth century to give us a quite unfair view of this vibrant and exciting period.
Christopher Columbus

So what was Columbus's mistake? The disagreement between him and his critics was over the size of the world - not an easy thing to measure. The story of this controversy can be traced back to the ancient Greeks and the various ways their writings were transmitted to the West."

You really should go outside your prejudices and educate yourself.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

Just for the record:
Nobody cares what you right wing bigots think.
Especially you Cee, who's been proven wrong more times than George Bush has mispronounced the word"nuclear."

We will trust science.It's all we have.

You think we're going to believe the right wingers, who have been wrong about...let me see...
EVERYTHING !

You're all a joke and an embarrassment to educated people everywhere.

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pa at February 27, 2007 3:03 PM

Fox News #1, Rush #1, Hannity #2, Savage #3. Nobody cares what right wingers think? Could you be any more off base? Wrong?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 3:07 PM

Burger King, can you explain why conservative media holds all the top spots, since no one cares what we think?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 3:20 PM

Remember saying this Burger King? Or, was this before the meds kicked in? What's ironic, is, you had the nerve to call someone ELSE a bigot, earlier. Bigot-a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own.

Cee won't accept Science.
Science has always been at odds with the religious nuts of their day for centuries.

Remember when the religious nuts were calling scientists "heretics' for saying the Earth is not the center of universe?

if you lived in that time period, guess which side you'd be on ?

Just like you wouldn't be caught dead in a civil rights march if you were old enough in the 60's.

It's not hard to nail your ass on any of these topics.

Still waiting for "no name" to get some courage answer why he thinks the Joint Chiefs are "total crap".

Why are you so scared to answer, lame one?

How come you keep running?

"Fred Bear then pointed out that higher percentages of Republicans voted for civil rights than Democrats."

- This is an oversimplification of the facts pointed out by someone who obviously doesn't have the capacity for deep thought.

- Go with me on this hypothetical...

If there were only ONE REPUBLICAN in congress in 1964, and that GOP member voted for the Civil Rights act, then you could still say a higher percentage of republicans voted for it than dems. Which would be true... but very misleading.

- And my look at the southern voting bloc was very appropriate. That's where the anti-black sentiment was concentrated. Which is where the republican stronghold resides today, by the way. A prophetic Lyndon Johnson saw that happening, too.

- Face it... democrats pushed for the civil rights act. NOT ONE SOUTHER REPUBLICAN VOTED FOR IT. That's the most telling statistic of them all.

Also, Can any of the RWer's explain why Exxon has been paying off scientists to throw doubt in the global warming issue.

Who's running?

Who's running?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 5:10 PM

Are you responding?

Just how lame are you ?

" Can any of the RWer's explain why Exxon has been paying off scientists to throw doubt in the global warming issue."

- I would add the question, why has the administration been pressuring scientists to keep quiet about the same.

You go Rudy.

LOL

Cee at 4:51 PM: "Oh yes, personal attacks to end the debate".

Cee at 1:06 PM: "the more Iraqis and US soldiers killed, the happier the IMPOTENT LEFT becomes"

Sure Cee, good thing YOU'RE above using personal attacks!

" Can any of the RWer's explain why Exxon has been paying off scientists to throw doubt in the global warming issue."

- I would add the question, why has the administration been pressuring scientists to keep quiet about the same.

Posted by: James at February 27, 2007 5:11 PM

((((crickets))))))

Mike, how dare you point out how much a hypocrite Cee is.
He doesn't mean to be a hypocrite.
it must just come naturally.

Just how lame are you ?

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania at February 27, 2007 5:11 PM

Your hole is getting deeper and deeper, Burger King.

Your hole is getting deeper and deeper, Burger King.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 5:15 PM

You have the balls to say that, when you run from answering the question?

Thanks for proving how lame you are.

"You are confused. I, and no one else I've seen, has made any effort to shut up the majority. The majority, or at least their spokesmen, are everywhere calling for the suppression of any disagreement."

You are wrong janet. First off i have seen no evidence of any here trying to supress debate. they have called you foolish are wrong headed but that is not suppresion on the other hand:

NASA's chief climate scientist James Hansen says the space agency's backlash is part of a Bush administration effort aimed at those trying to sound the alarm on climate change.

He says the administration tried to silence him after he gave a speech last month with this warning: "We're getting very close to a tipping point in the climate system.

Concerned Scientists scientific integrity program, told the committee that 1,800 federal scientists from multiple agencies have reported concerns about interference. She said more than 600 scientists from nine agencies reported fear of retaliation for publicizing their findings and nearly 500 scientists from nine agencies said they were barred from publishing certain results related to climate change.

So again if your side would stop trying to silence debate that would be great.

"You make my point here. Science in your world view is a consensus. To my mind, what makes perfect sense is trusting in whoever has the best science. Galileo went against centuries of religious and scientific beliefs. In your world we would not have ever admitted that the earth revolved around the sun."

I'll agree trusting the best science makes the most sense. Galileo was right, the medical doctors who claimed Smoking was good for you were wrong. Both were minory opinons. However when you are not an expert (I'm assuming you are not) it makes a little more sense to ignore the fringe minority. The majority of experts could turn out to be wrong but I doubt it. And given that the nature of science is to find the truth wherever it leads if they are wrong they will come around.

"Right, because bringing up that virtually ever major scintific body on the planet beleives in Global warming is hertical and as long as their are Experts like you around ready to question we must take you seriously."

You lost me here. What in the hell are you trying to say?

it was in response to your post.

"What biblical metaphor? I referenced the Middle Ages and The Inquisition."

I shouldn't have said metaphor I was speaking of the oh yea of the himmnites stuff you were spouting.

"And again, you prove my point. You are locked in with the consensus, which you agreed is not a scientific approach."

What the hell does that mean?

Are you saying that it is not scientifc to take the counsel of expert opinon? So if i get diagnosed with Cancer by 9 out of 10 doctors I should tell the 9 doctors to go screw themselves? I suppose if i disagree with the diagnoses I can go get and advanced degree in cancer research and check for myself or i can listen to the 9 experts and TAKE THE FREAKING CHEMO! I might be wrong but I like hedging my bets.

"You may be wise and with the majority and still be DEAD WRONG."

Hey I agree completly with that statment. There is no doubt that the minority can be right. but when we are talking about the majority of EXPERT OPINON. I think you had better have very very good reasons to discount it. and the opinon of a few Exxon scientist is not enough in my opinion.

"I may be a fool and with the minority and RIGHT."

No, you are one or the other. A fool or right. Since I have not seen anyhting from you that demonstrates you have an expert level understanding of the issue one must conclude you are being ideological about the debate and siding with the minority because you are a conservative.

"Cee won't accept Science.
Science has always been at odds with the religious nuts of their day for centuries."

Rosie....you have lost control....

I am a physician....I RELY on science for my livelihood.....good science that is replicated, prospective and statistically valued. I have seen science even fail when used conservatively, as it is in medicine.

I was an undergraduate biology major who had exposure to global warming theory (what it was at the time) as well as evolutionary theory....there is a WORLD of difference in the factual basis of these disciplines when compared to medicine or when compared to the physical sciences. Assumptions are numerous in these fields and these assumptions are constantly changed and debated.

You seem to think that "science" is some sacred cow that cannot fail.....wrongo.....I could post 1000 times the failures of medicine or evolutionary theory, as well as many other areas where assumptions had to be changed...

The assumptions in HIGCC are just too numerous to be ignored and to try to make a connection to medicine, astronomy or even geology is very dishonest.....It just shows how weak your argument is!

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

No Name is not the brightest bulb on the marquee.

" Can any of the RWer's explain why Exxon has been paying off scientists to throw doubt in the global warming issue."

- I would add the question, why has the administration been pressuring scientists to keep quiet about the same.

Posted by: James at February 27, 2007 5:11 PM

((((crickets))))))

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania at February 27, 2007 5:12 PM

This is what happens after yrs of drug use combined with hanging out on the "puffington post" blog.

Burger King, making anonymous posts? You're not very sly, are you?

" Can any of the RWer's explain why Exxon has been paying off scientists to throw doubt in the global warming issue."

- I would add the question, why has the administration been pressuring scientists to keep quiet about the same.

Posted by: James at February 27, 2007 5:11 PM

((((crickets))))))

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania at February 27, 2007 5:12 PM

"This is what happens after yrs of drug use combined with hanging out on the "puffington post" blog"

-----------------------------------------------

- What a well though, educated response. Your mother must be proud you know how to debate your points logically.

This is what happens after yrs of drug use combined with hanging out on the "puffington post" blog.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 5:17 PM

yet you still are stalling and deathly afraid of answering a simple question.
You also have another one up there too.

How come you;re such a coward ?

"If there were only ONE REPUBLICAN in congress in 1964, and that GOP member voted for the Civil Rights act, then you could still say a higher percentage of republicans voted for it than dems. Which would be true... but very misleading."

Hmmm. Interesting point. But you do realize of course that's exactly the same type of logic you Olbyloons use to cite Olby's "increase" in ratings, right?

Again, it's okay when YOU do it, but when we use the same tactic, why that's just wrong. Typical Olbyloon logic at play. The ability of the Olbyloon to play the hypocrite never ceases to amaze me.

Burger King, making anonymous posts? You're not very sly, are you?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 5:19 PM

made by the headless anonymous poster.

And your hypocrisy is lost on yourself, which is a total hoot.

I said,

"If there were only ONE REPUBLICAN in congress in 1964, and that GOP member voted for the Civil Rights act, then you could still say a higher percentage of republicans voted for it than dems. Which would be true... but very misleading."

Brandon responded,

"Hmmm. Interesting point. But you do realize of course that's exactly the same type of logic you Olbyloons use to cite Olby's "increase" in ratings, right? "

-----------------------------

Care to explain the parallel? I don't see it.

Just for the record:
Nobody cares what you right wing bigots think.
Especially you Cee, who's been proven wrong more times than George Bush has mispronounced the word"nuclear."

We will trust science.It's all we have.

You think we're going to believe the right wingers, who have been wrong about...let me see...
EVERYTHING !

You're all a joke and an embarrassment to educated people everywhere.

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pa at February 27, 2007 3:03 PM

Fox News #1, Rush #1, Hannity #2, Savage #3. Nobody cares what right wingers think? Could you be any more off base? Wrong?

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 3:07 PM

let's try again, b/c lame ass is a little slow.
How come you called the Joint Chiefs "total crap"?

I don't get it. Someone please explain to me why did Bill Orally pay Robert Cox to create this sight in the first place? Answer, to attack Keith Olbermann.

So why is that you dumb asses denying global warming failed to hear Bill Orally on 60 Minutes this last Sunday say the he believes that global warming is real simply because the science says it is. Even Billo understands what the concept of scientific determination is. Fact and delusion part company when science stands between them.

Only the most ignorant of dumb asses fail to understand this.

No Name is now bringing up past posts instead of showing some balls and actually answering a question.
What a little girl !

I don't get it. Someone please explain to me why did Bill Orally pay Robert Cox to create this sight in the first place? Answer, to attack Keith Olbermann.

So why is that you dumb asses denying global warming failed to hear Bill Orally on 60 Minutes this last Sunday say the he believes that global warming is real simply because the science says it is. Even Billo understands what the concept of scientific determination is. Fact and delusion part company when science stands between them.

Only the most ignorant of dumb asses fail to understand this.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 5:23 PM

Bill O'Reilly is nothing but a big liar, remember? Why, all of the sudden do you believe him? Can you answer that?

Even Billo understands what the concept of scientific determination is. Fact and delusion part company when science stands between them.

Only the most ignorant of dumb asses fail to understand this.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 5:23 PM

Welcome to Ignorant Dumb Ass Central !

NO name is now really spinning his wheels.

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Burger King, when you explain why conservative media holds all of the top spots on tv and radio, I will address your question regarding the jcs.

By the way Janet, it is not like the majority of scientist from that era disagreed with Galileo's findings. His findings were suppressed by the Catholic church wou found them to be heresy.

"You make my point here. Science in your world view is a consensus. To my mind, what makes perfect sense is trusting in whoever has the best science. Galileo went against centuries of religious and scientific beliefs. In your world we would not have ever admitted that the earth revolved around the sun."

Of course you don't see the parallel James. You Olbyloons are rather infamous for failing to get the point. The parallel (for the mentally handicaped amongst you is this: Olbermann's deranged and sadly misinformed fans love to boast about how he has had a great ratings improvement, but they fail to menton how far beind he was for most of the last four years. Of course a ratings increse looks and sounds dramatic, but when you start at the bottom, it always will be. And at the bottoms of the ratings cellar is mostly where Olbermann has resided for the past four years.

"Can any of the RWer's explain why Exxon has been paying off scientists to throw doubt in the global warming issue."

"- I would add the question, why has the administration been pressuring scientists to keep quiet about the same."

Posted by: James at February 27, 2007 5:11 PM

Strawmen.....My not answering those silly red herrings in no way changes the fact that 1) HIGCC is a debatable issue and that 2) severe governmental restrictions that overly burdens people based on theories should be carefully evaluated for their economic, health and social tolls.

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And Mike, who named you the moral judge of OW.....my hyperbole in the Iraq War debate is no less shrill than your's, the professor's or any other who holds a strong opinion on either side.....My comments today were supported by previous vindictive or gleeful leftist posts, however.

cee
"Faith means not wanting to know the truth" Nietzsche (used by leftist OW poster)

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration’s policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

Even Billo understands what the concept of scientific determination is. Fact and delusion part company when science stands between them.

Only the most ignorant of dumb asses fail to understand this.

Posted by: at February 27, 2007 5:23 PM

Welcome to Ignorant Dumb Ass Central !

Posted by: Bushkill Falls, Pennsylvania at February 27, 2007 5:28 PM

I think it's time for a new pair of shoes for you Burger King, you have danced around another simple question.

"Bill O'Reilly is nothing but a big liar, remember? Why, all of the sudden do you believe him? Can you answer that?"

There are certain things Bill happens to be right on. For example he beleives that the earth is round. You may disagree.

He also believes in climate change you f---ing idiot!

Burger King says over and over Bill lies about everything, until now, all of the sudden. Why is this?

Bill O'Reilly makes 10 million a yr, how much do you get from the gov't every month, Burger King?

"If there were only ONE REPUBLICAN in congress in 1964, and that GOP member voted for the Civil Rights act, then you could still say a higher percentage of republicans voted for it than dems. Which would be true... but very misleading."

Brandon responded,

"Hmmm. Interesting point. But you do realize of course that's exactly the same type of logic you Olbyloons use to cite Olby's "increase" in ratings, right? "

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"Care to explain the parallel? I don't see it."

In the example you gave, if the lone Republican voted for the Civil Rights Bill, you could claim 100% of the Republicans voted for the bill, which would seem like a really impressive number, but it really isn't since there were hardly any voters in the first place.

Regarding Olbermann's ratings, it is a very impressive number when you say that Orange Boy's ratings have increased 40%, 50% (or whatever the number is) since Labor Day, 2006. But in reality, this perecntage is misleading because Olbermann's ratings were so abysmal at the low point (350,00 or something like that). So, if Olbermann increases his viewership by 50%, he is still getting trounced by almost 4 to 1 on a nightly basis.

Bradon said, "

Olbermann's deranged and sadly misinformed fans love to boast about how he has had a great ratings improvement, but they fail to menton how far beind he was for most of the last four years."

- No. I don't believe the comparison applies. You want to parallel a ONE-TIME VOTE on the Civil Rights Act, which showed clearly NOT ONE REPUBLICAN had the guts to go against the southern anti-black populous... with a TREND of increased viewership.

- TREND being the key word. ONE TIME VOTE... TREND.

- Ten years from now, Olbermann may have 2 million viewers a night. Or he could be off TV entirely. 200 years from now there still won't be a southern Republican who voted for the CVA.

hank said, "Regarding Olbermann's ratings, it is a very impressive number when you say that Orange Boy's ratings have increased 40%, 50% (or whatever the number is) since Labor Day, 2006. But in reality, this perecntage is misleading because Olbermann's ratings were so abysmal at the low point (350,00 or something like that). So, if Olbermann increases his viewership by 50%, he is still getting trounced by almost 4 to 1 on a nightly basis. "

- I'll give you a lot of points for this one, hank. In fact, I buy a lot of what you say. I still don't think the parallel is quite there, but you make a good argument.

The ability of the Olbyloon to play the hypocrite never ceases to amaze me.
Posted by: Brandon at February 27, 2007 5:21 PM

What is with Brandon and his one word arsenal method of attack? "Olbyloon" is that it? Is that all you got?

Let's review some of the delusional beliefs of the last 8 people who still like Bush:

99.99% of all scientists who are experts in the science of global warming conclude that it is happening now and has been happening. - the "I'm not a dumb hillbilly crowd" say they know better.

99.99% of all scientists who are experts in biological evolution conclude it is a fact. - the "I am not a dumb hillbilly crowd" say they know better.

99.99% of all voters in this nation who make moral judgments based on social justice, instead of adopting talking points of right wing media, think the Bush administration is more about corporate profits than social justice. - the "I'm not a dumb hillbilly crowd" say Jesus was about social justice but Bush and the Republicans are more wise than Jesus.

100% of all our founding fathers prevented the powerful elite from combining religion and politics in this nation. the "I am not a dumb hillbilly crowd" say they have nothing bad to say about the Republican party pimping Jesus and the bible to get their votes.

Do we need to go on?

"Olbermann's deranged and sadly misinformed fans love to boast about how he has had a great ratings improvement, but they fail to menton how far beind he was for most of the last four years."

Hey Brandon I hope you never run a business I hold stock in. Your obsession with an empirical mathematical deduction of relative quantitative comparisons would never hold water in the business world.

The reality is that Olbermann's ratings have climbed dramatically. Your wanting to focus on where he began and where he is now is relative to more than just his numbers.

Keep in mind that RCox and his minions have had zero impact on reducing KO's appeal. You are a poster boy for why we love Keith Olbermann.

a--holes like you, who walk lock-step behind pussies like Limbaugh and Hannity, are so repulsive that we take great delight in having a hero like Olbermann carpet slam the chicken hawk cowards on the right you admire, chicken hawks who talk a big game when it comes to defending this nation but only when it someone else dieing on the front lines.

Rudy- you live in a fantasy world where you think everyone agrees with you. 99% think left wingers like you are BAD for this country. Kucko-Kucko!

"99% think left wingers like you are BAD for this country."

- Care to cite the source for that statistic? Thought not.

Of course, algore's absolutely correct about global warming. He won a f---ing OSCAR© folks! The those geniuses at the "Academy©" are NEVER WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING!

Check out rudy's unsubstantiated 99.99% stats before you pile on me Jimmy boy! LOSER!

"The those geniuses at the "Academy©" are NEVER WRONG ABOUT ANYTHING!"

I don't know. That whole Titanic thing still has me pissed.

On the global warming thing... I tend not to pay attention to them. Just the vast majority of worldwide scientists and scientific publications that say we have a problem.

"LOSER!"

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Again, the wit of the conservative base on the website is mind-numbing.

You have never seen any evidence that there is a movement to silence those who have reached a different conclusion re Global Warming.

You really do need to get out of your bubble:

"The Weather Channel’s most prominent climatologist is advocating that broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic global warming."

"Talk about stifling dissent. Ellen Goodman in the Boston Globe:
I would like to say we’re at a point where global warming is impossible to deny. Let’s just say that global warming deniers are now on a par with Holocaust deniers, though one denies the past and the other denies the present and future."

There are many more examples. However, I am not your nanny. Go look for yorself.

What the hell I mean is that science can not, has never been and will never be the result of consensus. Thousands, hundreds of thousands even hundreds of millions can be WRONG OR RIGHT. Stifling debate and research about anything is the equivalent, in this day and age, to the Inquisistion. We should be beyond that at this point in our evolution.

I am not a scientist. I understand the general idea behind research and conclusions from the research. And I understand that to be accepted it must be verifiable and account for all the variables, every last time the principle is applied.

So far all the Computer Modeling can not predict the KNOWN to the KNOWN, much less predict the unknown future.

And there is always the question that the proponents of Global Warming never seem to address. Is there a beneficial component to possible Global Warming. Mankind has flourished and expanded in every aspect from early history through the Rennaisance during periods of warming that are greater than today's warming.

Nor have they addressed the fact that the warming in our age probably ocurred in the mid twentieth century followed by a slight cooling period. We warmed again and some science suggests we may be cooling.

Nor do they ever address the role of the sun on our climate. Human activity compared to the variations of the sun plays no part in their calculations. I could go on and on. But what is the use. You have your fervent religious conviction and no one can argue against another's faith.

Janet Hawkins
AKA Grammie

einstein, go back and read posts from Burger King/bushkills, booby/bob, wozzy/mutt. They can't make a single post w/out throwing in a few childish names. These guys are on your side.

Obermanns ratings have climbed.........

Yeah I've heard this before, Let's get something straight. Night after Night Olby either ends up in third, fourth, or second.

About two million behind O'Reilly.

When I see Olby, pulling down second place and getting a million viewers a night for a month, then I might listen.

Oh and let's see on Radio:

Most listen to:

1) Rush

2) Hannity

3) Beck

4)??? But I bet it ain't the Dan Patrick Show!

5) Savage

6)??? (Bet it ain't Randi Rhoades)

7) O'Reilly

Let's look at a few things

O'Reilly last night had Chuck Schumer and Al Sharpton.

Olby played a school yard bully to a woman. But would he face her one on one? Never!

I don't listen to Hannity but it just so happens while channel surfing I stop for a second and he has Daryl Hannah on debating Global Warming.

O'Reilly had two liberals on.

Olby threw turd balls

Hannity, I don't like his style but I give him credit having Daryl Hannah on. I think she was nailing him on a few points.

Olby will just hide behind his desk, in his bathtub and play school yard bully.

And you think that one day America is going to want to tune in mass to watch somebody who probably couldn't debate his way out of........well pick any subject. He's never debated anybody, what does that tell you. All he has is parrots on.

America is much smarter than to fall for this house of cards.

Oh yeah I just love this: If your don't go along with the 99.9999% of certain scientists your being paid off by Exxon.

Stop it your making a fool of yourself, Go watch Olby and take your medication.

Oh and go check this out:

www.commondreams.org/views01/0429-03.htm

It seems 'Mister Bush' is a little more enviro-friendly than Al Gore. And the worst part is this piece is writin' by a lib because the piece falls off the table left at a certain point. But the point is George Bush seems to be the real deal when it comes to a an enviro-friendly house not Al Gore. Don't worry libs, the author goes lefty nuts on him after he has to admit it.

And before I leave. Kudos to Charles Gibson at A.B.C.. It seems the A.B.C. Nightly News has taken over first place from N.B.C. Nightly News.

Olby hasn't even shown up yet and the crowd is leaving.

I'm convinced that "puck" is not a person but rather a pre-programmed platitude dispenser...

I see my little politically deluded buddy, Jeffy, copied another one of my lines at 7:03; 'Einstein'. He likes using my lines.

I guess this means he still likes me!

Janet God knows I have not been able to argue against yours. And no matter how much scientific evidence is posted you will never be convinced.

"no one can argue against another's faith."

why is it george bush's job to all of a sudden have a solution to global warning? why if al gore cared so much didnt he fix it while he was the vice president for 8 years? oh thats right, wasnt as big a caus de celeb 10 years ago. he11 25 years ago it was global cooling the democrats said was going to wipe out all life as we knew it. blah. in less then a hundred years of serious industrial societies, and less then 15 of which involved our "evil" SUVs, we somehow broke earth? this planet has endured catastrophic climate shifts, volcanic eruptions, plate shifts, global quakes, ice ages, and the planet and life go on. the true politics of fear is telling people that if you dont vote for the jet flying hummer driving al gore and his ilk that we will all melt.

why is it george bush's job to all of a sudden have a solution to global warning? why if al gore cared so much didnt he fix it while he was the vice president for 8 years? oh thats right, wasnt as big a caus de celeb 10 years ago. he11 25 years ago it was global cooling the democrats said was going to wipe out all life as we knew it. blah. in less then a hundred years of serious industrial societies, and less then 15 of which involved our "evil" SUVs, we somehow broke earth? this planet has endured catastrophic climate shifts, volcanic eruptions, plate shifts, global quakes, ice ages, and the planet and life go on. the true politics of fear is telling people that if you dont vote for the jet flying hummer driving al gore and his ilk that we will all melt.

Jesus Christ Janet do you know anything about anything?

"The Weather Channel’s most prominent climatologist is advocating that broadcast meteorologists be stripped of their scientific certification if they express skepticism about predictions of manmade catastrophic global warming."

I point out a group of concerned scientist with over 1200 cases of abuse and you come back with a weatherman on the weather channel? That’s all you have. I think It’s safe to say I win this one. Oh and Boston globe was not calling for censorship it was saying the evidence against global warming is as strong as the evidence against the holocaust.

“There are many more examples. However, I am not your nanny. Go look for yorself.”

One example. That’s powerful.

“What the hell I mean is that science can not, has never been and will never be the result of consensus. Thousands, hundreds of thousands even hundreds of millions can be WRONG OR RIGHT. Stifling debate and research about anything is the equivalent, in this day and age, to the Inquisistion. We should be beyond that at this point in our evolution.”

I agree completely and sure wish the Bush administration would stop it. if the weather channel guy is advocating stopping debate I wish him to quit as well.

"So far all the Computer Modeling can not predict the KNOWN to the KNOWN, much less predict the unknown future."

What do you base this on because it is inaccurate?

"The science of global warming has advanced dramatically over the last 50 years, with the availability of fast computers that can process data, and the availability of satellites that provide huge quantities of data. We've developed and perfected climate models that are capable of making reliable projections of what the future climate is going to look like." -- EPA scientist John Hart

It's important distinguish between climate models and weather prediction. We all know that when the weatherman says that “It's gonna rain tomorrow," that it may be perfectly beautiful tomorrow, and not rain. Predicting tomorrow's weather is actually more difficult than projecting the typical climate, the average climate 40 or 50 years from now. And the reason is, climate predictions aren't concerned with the details of just how much rain will fall at this location, on this particular date. They're concerned with the average annual conditions. Typically, for example, how much snow will fall in an average winter, 50 years from now. That's actually a lot easier to do, than to predict the weather. -- John Hart again.

"And there is always the question that the proponents of Global Warming never seem to address. Is there a beneficial component to possible Global Warming. Mankind has flourished and expanded in every aspect from early history through the Renaissance during periods of warming that are greater than today's warming."

Most of the evidence seems to indicate that it will be devastating for the world economy. If that is the case then a little extra sun in Alaska is not all the appealing however nice a tan might be up there.

"Nor have they addressed the fact that the warming in our age probably occurred in the mid twentieth century followed by a slight cooling period. We warmed again and some science suggests we may be cooling."

But the majority suggest we are warming in fact the hottest years on record have occurred in the last 10 years. But hey you refuse to look at anything that disrupts the claims of your ideology.

"Nor do they ever address the role of the sun on our climate. Human activity compared to the variations of the sun plays no part in their calculations. I could go on and on. But what is the use. You have your fervent religious conviction and no one can argue against another's faith. "

Are you suggesting the sun is burning hotter and that is the cause of global warming? Perhaps you would care to offer a little evidence.

I have listed over 30 of the most important scientific organizations in the world that endorse the idea that global warming is human and man made and you still remain unconvinced because of a fringe minority. Mostly getting paid by Exxon. You are the consummate flat earther janet.

UNITED NATIONS — An international panel of scientists presented the United Nations with a sweeping, detailed plan on Tuesday to combat climate change — a challenge, it said, "to which civilization must rise."
Failure would produce a turbulent 21st century of weather extremes, spreading drought and disease, expanding oceans and displaced coastal populations, it said.

"The increasing numbers of environmental refugees as sea levels rise and storm surges increase will be in the tens of millions," panel co-chair Rosina Bierbaum, a University of Michigan ecologist, told reporters here.

After a two-year study, the 18-member group, representing 11 nations, offered scores of recommendations: from pouring billions more dollars into research and development of cleaner energy sources, to mobilizing U.N. and other agencies to help affected people, to winning political agreement on a global temperature "ceiling."

Their 166-page report, produced at U.N. request and sponsored by the private United Nations Foundation and the Sigma Xi Scientific Research Society, was issued just three weeks after the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), an authoritative U.N. network of 2,000 scientists, made headlines with its latest assessment of climate science.

The IPCC expressed its greatest confidence yet that global warming is being caused largely by the accumulation of carbon dioxide and other heat-trapping gases in the atmosphere, mostly from man's burning of coal, oil and other fossil fuels. If nothing's done, it said, global temperatures could rise as much as 11°F by 2100.

Temperatures rose an average 1.3°F over the past 100 years. Tuesday's report said the world's nations should agree to limit further rises this century to no more than 3.6°F.

Beyond that, "we would be in a regime where the danger of intolerable and unmanageable impacts on human well-being would rise very rapidly," said panel member John P. Holdren, director of Massachusetts' Woods Hole Research Center.

Separately, a powerful group of developing nations on Tuesday said wealthy nations must take responsibility for causing climate change instead of laying blame on others.

While emissions of greenhouse gases and other pollutants are increasing in booming Asian economies like India and China, "most of the environmental degradation that has happened has been historically caused by ... the industrial world," said Munir Akram, Pakistan's U.N. ambassador and chairman of the Group of 77, an organization grouping 132 mainly developing countries and China.

"There is now unfortunately a sort of propaganda effort to try and shift the blame for the environmental degradation on these fast-growing developing economies," Akram told reporters after a meeting of the group at the Rome-based U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization

The experts panel said global carbon dioxide emissions should be leveled off by 2015-2020, and then cut back to less than one-third that level by 2100, via a vast transformation of global energy systems — toward greater efficiency, away from fossil fuels, and toward biofuels, solar, wind and other renewable energy sources.

That changeover would be spurred by heavy "carbon taxes" or "cap-and-trade" systems, whereby industries' emissions are capped by governments, and more efficient companies can sell unused allowances to less efficient ones.

Such schemes — already in use in Europe under the Kyoto Protocol climate pact — have been proposed in the U.S. Congress, but are opposed by the Bush administration, which rejects Kyoto because it does not include developing countries such as China and India.

The White House points to what it says is spending of almost $3 billion a year on energy-technology research and development as its major contribution to combatting climate change. But Holdren said other calculations put spending at under $2 billion, and it's "far from proportionate to either the size of the challenge or the size of the opportunities."

Tuesday's report said such research budgets worldwide are badly underfunded, and require a tripling or quadrupling, to $45 billion or $60 billion a year.

Billions more should go toward work on cellulose as a biofuel, overcoming the problems of nuclear energy, reducing solar electricity's cost, and developing other cleaner energy sources, Holdren said. He said intensified research is particularly needed for carbon capture and sequestration — technology to capture carbon dioxide in power-plant emissions and store it underground.

In fact, the experts panel urged governments to immediately ban all new coal-fired power plants except those designed for eventual retrofitting of sequestration technology.

The panel's other co-chair is biodiversity expert Peter H. Raven, Missouri Botanical Garden director and past president of Sigma Xi.

I walk in lockstep with Rush and Hannity and O'Reilly huh? Funny, I don't listen to Rush and I don't watch Fox News. So there go your little theory about where I get my "talking points". I just know that YOU seem to be getting your information from Olbermann and as we at Owatch well know, he's quite selective about what he does and doesn't report. If it isn't blue blog approved, it doesn't get covered.

Re Global Warming: I know that something is going on with the weather but I have no idea what is causing it, I haven't really had time to examine the issues behind global warming, I just know that there is a divide on it within the scientific community and meterologists. And I know that the weather patterns aren't what they were when I was younger. I'm not prepared however to say what is or isn't causing it. I'll leave that up to people who know more about the subject than I do.

I have listed over 30 of the most important scientific organizations in the world that endorse the idea that global warming is human and man made and you still remain unconvinced because of a fringe minority. Mostly getting paid by Exxon. You are the consummate flat earther janet.

Posted by: Leftwing guy at February 27, 2007 8:35 PM

This is total horse sh-t, you have listed over 30 nut jobs that go along w/your gorey talking points that you learned from paying $10 for a science fiction movie. There are hundreds of scientists to your 30 that refute your/their propoganda.

Brandon on KO: "He's quite selective about what he does and doesn't report".

News flash to Brandon: They ALL do that!

Look Mr./Ms., "I'm too stupid to think up a user name", Olbermann runs a biased program. There is no more biased NEWS program on television than Olbermann's and that's a FACT. He's admitted he's a liberal--why can't you?

Brandon baby; so you have to be 'smart' to think up a name on an anonymous blog? Well, EXcuse me, I just corrected that!

I didn't say he didn't run a biased program, nor did I argue whether he is 'liberal' or not.

I SAID they ALL leave out stories that others cover.

"99% think left wingers like you are BAD for this country."

- Care to cite the source for that statistic? Thought not.

Posted by: James at February 27, 2007 6:27 PM-
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Academy Award voters...they know everything apparently

How original. No wonder you don't demand real news from the oh-so-biased Olbermann. And no wonder you remain so woefully ignorant of the world around you.

Brandy wrote:

How original. No wonder you don't demand real news from the oh-so-biased Olbermann. And no wonder you remain so woefully ignorant of the world around you.

Posted by: Brandon at February 27, 2007 11:03 PM

Original? Biased Olbermann? Real news? Ignorant? That about sums up your repitious mantra.

Get real you loser!

You are clearly a total f---ing moron. Read the agency's I have posted then refute them if you can.

"This is total horse sh-t, you have listed over 30 nut jobs that go along w/your gorey talking points that you learned from paying $10 for a science fiction movie. There are hundreds of scientists to your 30 that refute your/their propoganda."

Keith Olbermann is an American Hero

very true

Keith Olbermann is and American Hero.

Did you see where the liars who were jealous of Al Gore last night claimed his power bill went up after he came out with his movie on Global Warming?

What they forgot to tell you was that was because Al Gore pays higher costs to use green power sources.

Typical spin from the "the bible says god is going to destroy the earth anyway" crowd.

Yeah, Gore is a great conservationist in his five houses and his 20-room mansions. Facts don't lie "Brandone", but your "heroes" do.

"Yeah, Gore is a great conservationist in his five houses and his 20-room mansions. Facts don't lie "Brandone", but your "heroes" do. "

When you can't win an argument there's nothing like Ad hominem attack in place is there Brandon?

The truth is the truth. There's nothing to argue here,Gore is an energy hog.

"The truth is the truth. There's nothing to argue here,Gore is an energy hog."

Which in know way invalidates his message on global warming.

That is, which in no way validates his argument.

That is, which in no way invalidates his argument.

"The truth is the truth. There's nothing to argue here,Gore is an energy hog."

Which in know way invalidates his message on global warming.

Posted by: Leftwing guy at February 28, 2007 4:26 PM

Fox Noise wants to pretend that all the other millionares like O'lielly and any other Republican fat cat with a house or houses like Gores buys his electricity at a higher rate because buys green source energy. Something the pea brains didn't even know existed.

Gore uses the same amount of electricity as other wealthy people, difference is he pays a higher price than most because he is not a hippocrat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_energy

July 25, 2006
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Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.
Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.
In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.
Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.
"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.
Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets.
Mars and Earth, for instance, have experienced periodic ice ages throughout their histories.
"Man-made greenhouse warming has made a small contribution to the warming seen on Earth in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance," Abdussamatov said.
National Geographic

More undisputed global warming evidence from that right wing rag, The National Geographic. Great Thanks.

Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human-induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory.
Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures.
In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row.
Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun.
"The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said.
Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets.
Mars and Earth, for instance, have experienced periodic ice ages throughout their histories.
"Man-made greenhouse warming has made a small contribution to the warming seen on Earth in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance," Abdussamatov said.
National Geographic

More undisputed global warming evidence from that right wing rag, The National Geographic. Great Thanks.