Damn.. people in the South are dumbasses.

Olby "one sided" Kanobie recent battles-Habeas Corpus-day after day after day=No Habeas Corpus for terrorist detainees. Not a single mention since. Iraq Debate-night after night after night=no pass, so far, no mention. In all fairness to KK, I won't watch his show, in fear of losing my appetite, so I will have to wait for the recap to see if he brings up the resolution failure. Will he? Or, will he not?

More Olbypocrisy: Keith Anally giving Glenn Beck a WPITW for making a derogatory remark about a woman. Olby's mad because Beck stole his act.

Damn.. people in the South are dumbasses.

Posted by: Bill O'lielly at March 16, 2007 8:46 PM
liar, what part of the south do you live in?

This is your brain,......

This is your brain after Olby felching,..

Damn.. people in the South are dumbasses.

Posted by: Bill O'lielly at March 16, 2007 8:46 PM

I suspect Joe O'Mengele has been felching overtime.

Grammie

nice that olby had a close personal friend of Plame's on to discuss her testimony. this same guest went on to call Tuensing a twit- huh numb-nuts she wrote the law my guess is she may know a little more about it than you - but i guess since you are a close personal friend you know better than the person who actually wrote the statute you sir are the twit
as always
great thanks tonight

White House Murky on Prosecutor Firings
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer

3 hours ago

WASHINGTON - The White House dropped its contention Friday that former Counsel Harriet Miers first raised the idea of firing U.S. attorneys, blaming "hazy memories" as e-mails shed new light on Karl Rove's role. Support eroded further for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

Presidential press secretary Tony Snow previously had asserted Miers was the person who came up with the idea, but he said Friday, "I don't want to try to vouch for origination." He said, "At this juncture, people have hazy memories."

Countdown W/ Keith Olbermann's Disturbance Guide ... ended. I am extremely embarresed. I do not know how much catnip used to solve the problem.

In all fairness ... I won't watch his show ... so I will have to wait for the recap.

Amazing...

I'm sorry, I can't take people's opinion seriously who aren't even capable of using a name when they post.

Before we start calling people in the South dumbasses, let's remember that the South is the heart and soul of Republican politics and conservative philosophy. Therefore, Southerners are not dumbasses.

My sister once lived in Ms & I went down their some times & I can say that people in the So love Pres Bush & support him & their very religious too which sorta goes together & if I didnt own my house in Ohio & had to buy a new house some where Id look in the So maybe Ms or Al cause the warm weather is very good & so are the schools cause they still let kids pray & prayer does great things & their truly children of God cause they do pray which is a lot different than Ohio is now sure theyre good people in Ohio but some real scum to & thats a shame cause I love Ohio & its home & my mother is still in Ohio & wont ever move so I sorta need to stay here but I'd like to be with people who are closer to God & love Jesus & Pres Bush & are loved by Jesus like in Ms or Al & maybe even Ga so I dont think we oughta say bad things about them.

White House Murky on Prosecutor Firings
By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer

3 hours ago

WASHINGTON - The White House dropped its contention Friday that former Counsel Harriet Miers first raised the idea of firing U.S. attorneys, blaming "hazy memories" as e-mails shed new light on Karl Rove's role. Support eroded further for Attorney General Alberto Gonzales.

Presidential press secretary Tony Snow previously had asserted Miers was the person who came up with the idea, but he said Friday, "I don't want to try to vouch for origination." He said, "At this juncture, people have hazy memories."

Posted by: at March 16, 2007 10:20 PM
Here's mikey/woozy/mutt not using a name dwelling on the "mass firing" of us attny's. "I'll never post here again, adios" said he.

Countdown W/ Keith Olbermann's Disturbance Guide ... ended. I am extremely embarresed. I do not know how much catnip used to solve the problem.

Posted by: Obama Watch Us Bicker in Technicolor at March 16, 2007 10:22 PM
Is this the same "Bicker" that posted here before? He seems to be much different.

No, it's probably mikey/woozy/mutt.

More confusion does not solve the question. I am thee Obama Watch Us Bicker In Technicolor. Badabing/badaboom.

HEY RUDY... HEARD OF PUNCTUATION ? Dumbass

HEY BILL ... HEARD OF VERTEBRE ? Spineless

Bicker, no offense, but what happened to your intelligent remarks and insight? You seemed to be a "friend" of this great blog. Now, after obsessing over the "possum" for a few days, your comments just seem off base/different. Just an observation on my part.

No, it's probably mikey/woozy/mutt.

Posted by: at March 16, 2007 11:16 PM
Hey, mikey, still hangin here?

HEY RUDY... HEARD OF PUNCTUATION ? Dumbass

Posted by: Bill O'lielly at March 16, 2007 11:22 PM
hey liar, where's burger king/bushkills? P.S. does it make you feel better to criticize someone for not using punctuation? Is your self asteem that low? You and mikey, can't make an intelligent remark so you go to punctuation/spelling, of which either one of you were very good at, ironically.

Jeff: Nothing moodier than cancelling a whole entire website/blog then returning one week later (excuse in hand).

Jeff: Nothing moodier than cancelling a whole entire website/blog then returning one week later (excuse in hand).

Posted by: Obama Watch Us Bicker in Technicolor at March 16, 2007 11:44 PM
Bicker, enough said. I thought it was kind of strange, too. But, who am I to judge. Glad you're back, Bicker.

B----F___ING AM.

ol" GONZY??? WOW?!?

Rudy, when's the last time you were in the south? 1966?

Can't believe it?!?

90 to 8. 2 missing from the vote in the senate.

Not that you aren't an obvious troll or anything.

Happy Days Are Here Again!

What is the last vote that you know of Cecelia?

Hey your right, there are some dumb asses from the south. John Edwards, Bill Clinton, Jack Murtha, Ted Turnner, and Robert Bird.

Last time I was in the South was in 1998. Tulsa, Oklahoma, My grandamother had just passed away, she was a life long republican. At the time I was also a life long Republican, but for some unknown reason I had voted Democrat. For days I was feeling physically sick, but then, out of the blue, my grandma contacted me and more weird, contacted my mother and told us in separate dreams, that she was proud that we voted DEM.

White House Murky on Prosecutor Firings. So what.

Are the firings illegal? No. Are the firings unprecedented? No. Are the firings unethical? No. Are the firings massive? No. Is ANY White House being murky a momentous first? No.

If US Attorneys being political appointees at the discretion and pleasure of the President, any president of any party, is so suddenly only now unsavory the problem is the system. Lets change the system immediately.

Of course that will impact all Presidents in the future, whether Dem or Repub. To make the US Attorneys completely nonpolitical we should confer life time status to them, which will remove any spectre of political pressure, and make any future US Attorneys lifetime tenures, subject to the Advice and Consent of the Senate.

Just think of the benefits. President Clinton and co-president Hillary were so busy with all those other burning issues of the day: travelgate; gays in the military; and that never hired by anyone head of White House of Security, Craig Livingston, who illegally had FBI files of 900+ Repub opponents of the dynamic duo.

No need to worry about the precedent setting en masse replacement of ALL 93 US attorneys. Without this added burden no doubt Co-President Hillary would have remembered all her activities re cattle futures, Whitewater and the Rose law firm billings.

Grammie

The ole B-B-B-but Clinton argument again, huh Janet? At what age did creativity evacuate your brain?

IT'S GREAT. . .TO BE. . .A FLORIDA GATOR!!!

this site is stupider than it used to be. that's saying something.

Keith kicks your asses everynight and you can't deal with his reality check on your used up neocon nightmare.

Keith kicks your asses everynight and you can't deal with his reality check on your used up neocon nightmare.

Posted by: iamabrainwashedidiotneoconwhocantthinkforthemselves at March 17, 2007 1:34 AM
Hey woozy, you're back!

iamabrainwashedidiotneoconwhocantthinkforthemselves because i am so used to Sean Hannity thinking for me. Please tell me what to think Rush. Coulter help me and tell me how fag it is to be a liberal.

Janet and cecelia, tell the bad people how silly they are. cee, please tell me that i will be raptured up with you before the bad people kill everyone.

Posted by: iamabrainwashedidiotneoconwhocantthinkforthemselves at March 17, 2007 1:37 AM
Hey woozy, your name starts off with (i) singular and ends with (s) plural. How far did you make it in school, mr spell checker?

Mr Spell checker? Are you dense or what? Just give it up Jeffy you are forever known as the fool who called someone and imbecile and misspelled it. Then when this was pointed out to you in quotes no less, YOU STILL MISSED IT.

You are exactly as you appear -

A dumb ass hillbilly!

hey jeff, how far do you think you will get wonderingwho iamabrainwashedidiotneoconwhocantthinkforthemselves is? bet you don't know.

Grammie, don't forget about Hillary's failed health care program, it cost the dems the re-election, a minor detail mikey has forgotten as well as burger king/bushkills.

So how do you pay for health care Mr Jeff?

iamabrainwashed- tell us about how you support the troops by having a magnetic yellow ribbon on your car.

Mr Spell checker? Are you dense or what? Just give it up Jeffy you are forever known as the fool who called someone and imbecile and misspelled it. Then when this was pointed out to you in quotes no less, YOU STILL MISSED IT.

You are exactly as you appear -

A dumb ass hillbilly!

Posted by: I pleasure the President at March 17, 2007 1:43 AM
I called someone AND imbecile, nice grammar. Foot in mouth, feel good?

Posted by: I pleasure the President at March 17, 2007 1:43 AM
I called someone AND imbecile, nice grammar. Foot in mouth, feel good?

Posted by: jeff at March 17, 2007 1:52 AM

So then were equal right? I'm just as stupid as you? Is that what you are saying?

iamabrainwashed- tell us about how you support the troops by having a magnetic yellow ribbon on your car.

Posted by: indierik at March 17, 2007 1:50 AM
mikey served as a cook in Texas for 2 yrs. That's how he says he "served our country". He doesn't support our troops, though.

Posted by: indierik at March 17, 2007 1:50 AM
mikey served as a cook in Texas for 2 yrs. That's how he says he "served our country". He doesn't support our troops, though.

Posted by: jeff at March 17, 2007 1:57 AM

In our military the cook is always protected more than our generals. Without our cook we do not fight.

And I forgot to say, in my country when ever we have a man who never served in our military disparage one who has, we put pictures of him in all the stores in his city with the word "codardo" in large red letters.

YA, DUMB ASSES FROM THE SOUTH: GwBush, Strom Thruman(oh wait he was a DixieCrat that turned REP after Civil Rights vote of 1964), Jesse Helms (oh wait he was a DixieCrat that turned REP after Civil Rights vote of 1964), HOLD ON,!?! the so called DIXIECRATS changed party to the REPUBLICAN party after the vote???? I was told that the Republicans were the force of change in civil rights. Yes and No format.
First # isa vote YES for civil rights, second # is a vote NO to civil rights: Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)

VERY ODD: I see a total of 152 Dems for Civil Rights and 138 Repubs. 10 S. repub at a 100% and 24 n. repub at 24% voting for segreation. half of the 87 S. Dems became republican shortly after the vote, but neither of the north or south party's other than the southern Dems (or known as DIXIECRATS) changed. Yes Republicans of the north helped to change our country for the better. My question is: would you vote for Nixon or G.W.Bush?

And I forgot to say, in my country when ever we have a man who never served in our military disparage one who has, we put pictures of him in all the stores in his city with the word "codardo" in large red letters.

Posted by: Tariq ibn-Ziyad at March 17, 2007 2:05 AM
Whatever, mikey/traitor.

YA, DUMB ASSES FROM THE SOUTH: GwBush, Strom Thruman(oh wait he was a DixieCrat that turned REP after Civil Rights vote of 1964), Jesse Helms (oh wait he was a DixieCrat that turned REP after Civil Rights vote of 1964), HOLD ON,!?! the so called DIXIECRATS changed party to the REPUBLICAN party after the vote???? I was told that the Republicans were the force of change in civil rights. Yes and No format.
First # isa vote YES for civil rights, second # is a vote NO to civil rights: Southern Democrats: 7-87 (7%-93%)
Southern Republicans: 0-10 (0%-100%)
Northern Democrats: 145-9 (94%-6%)
Northern Republicans: 138-24 (85%-15%)

VERY ODD: I see a total of 152 Dems for Civil Rights and 138 Repubs. 10 S. repub at a 100% and 24 n. repub at 24% voting for segreation. half of the 87 S. Dems became republican shortly after the vote, but neither of the north or south party's other than the southern Dems (or known as DIXIECRATS) changed. Yes Republicans of the north helped to change our country for the better. My question is: would you vote for Nixon or G.W.Bush?

Posted by: nate at March 17, 2007 2:11 AM
You're a wealth of info, nate, thanks for nothing.

I learned from the best, jeff

Mikey, you have serious issues.

Retardlicans alway claim to have passed civil right all by themselves, from what I see, They played a part, but it was far from by themselves. Yes Republicans were needed, and Dixicrats weren't, but alot of the Republicans of the time changed to DEMS, and most all of the DIXICRATS switched to Republican, so if the vote was held today, it would probably be closer to 55% Dems for non segrigation to 25% REPS for SEGRIGATION and 20% not understanding the whole ordeal

"President Clinton and co-president Hillary were so busy with all those other burning issues of the day: travelgate; gays in the military; and that never hired by anyone head of White House of Security, Craig Livingston, who illegally had FBI files of 900+ Repub opponents of the dynamic duo."

Who's grandmother is this? I thought a woman would be proud of a first lady who is smart enough to be a "co-president".

"Dynamic duo"? Yes as in more than 70% favorability rating after 8 years of hearings on pointless topics by bunch of Congressmen with thick southern drawls. Did this stop Bill Clinton and his co-president from serving this nation well? Did they leave office with a surplus in our treasury or a multi-trillion dollar debt?

Looks to me like this grandmother has some animosity towards women who have power.

Today as the inner circle of the worst president in history is crumbling there seems to be a half dozen people out there that still think Newt Gingrich runs the House and Hilary is just a first lady with no real position of power.

Who are these people that live in such a twisted delusional world?

Where do they get the chutzpa to be so stupid in such an open and blatant manner.

Hilary Clinton is a senator and a contender for the highest office in our nation.

Newt Gingrich is a fat faced Fix News guest speaker who dreams of one day redeeming his lost career. Lost trying to take on Hilary and he she won!

Good one Sister Conese.

Whatever, mikey/traitor.

Posted by: jeff at March 17, 2007 2:11 AM

Tariq is my name. Mikey is he to boy who likes cereal?

Why do call me him and a traitor?

I see you have trouble making friends. Did you have a father who was not kind to your mother when she showed you too much love? He thought this would make you into a girl-man?

You are the dog in the house, no?

Looks to me like this grandmother has some animosity towards women who have power.

Today as the inner circle of the worst president in history is crumbling there seems to be a half dozen people out there that still think Newt Gingrich runs the House and Hilary is just a first lady with no real position of power.

Who are these people that live in such a twisted delusional world?

Where do they get the chutzpa to be so stupid in such an open and blatant manner.

Hilary Clinton is a senator and a contender for the highest office in our nation.

Newt Gingrich is a fat faced Fix News guest speaker who dreams of one day redeeming his lost career. Lost trying to take on Hilary and he she won!

Posted by: Sister Conese at March 17, 2007 2:30 AM
Looks to me this person is a clinton aploogist....so you know, future reference, Hillary is with 2 ll's not one, einstein.

Good one Sister Conese.

Posted by: nate at March 17, 2007 2:35 AM
Bless you my son!

Posted by: Sister Conese at March 17, 2007 2:30 AM
Looks to me this person is a clinton aploogist....so you know, future reference, Hillary is with 2 ll's not one, einstein.

Posted by: jeff at March 17, 2007 2:39 AM

Apologising for what? You want to tell me what there is to apologize for? Or do you just repeat Fix News lines?

Hillary is the Show,
O'bamma is the Place,
Who is the Prize?

This dog Jeff he is in the house. Why does this man try so hard to be so stupid? Does he live in a camper park?

I saw them on HeHaw in the corn fields back home.

Jeff you need a dime to call your mother? Why does your mother hit you with a shoe when hit on your sister?

Sister Conese,
FUX SPEWs is the only lifeblood that most of these commentors have to thrive on. They think that they are good, godfearing people, only because FUX tells them that they are, but they don't seem to realize that it takes more than the usual spin to believe in a high power. I'm sorry, I am just guessing that you believe in a higher power because of your name, Sister Conese. I mean no offense either way.

Tariq ibn-Ziyad,
Hew Muslim scumbag, how did it feel knowing My Spanish ancestors was the only terrirtory to free itself from Islamic rul. We turned the Mosque in Cordoba into a Church.
We burned Korans and sh-tted on them you turban head.
Hey we burned doem an islamic city in Moprroco and dragged your ugly woman into slavery to pick our sugar in the Americas.
Latin vs. Islamic, we kick your Allah asses hands down!

Hey Nate don't bitch you have Soreass controlling Ulbermahn.
Us patriotic Moderate-Liberals and Conservatives have Fox.
Don't bitch just because the Leftist-Islamic alliance doesn't control everything.
f--- Iran!
f--- Al-Qaeda!
f--- the Left!

Sister Conese,
Rudy will destroy Hitlery!

OH sh-t, I forf---inggot Hillery and Rudy. Keep me up to date Joker.

That's right Rudy will beat Hitelery.
Then once as President he'll have people like Ulbermahn and Soreass disappear.
I can't wait.

It is pretty sad when A poster will discredit a person that claims to to be of faith, like Sister Conese. I have no clue as probably most posters, as if she is real, but I desided not to temp GODs will. GOD, please forgive me for taking on your and my enenmies. In Jesus name I pray Amen.

It is a sad day when the Joker finds out that Soros and his/her favorite winger has left us all high and dry. We all scrounging for bread and water, and we all can shout thank you Bush and Buddies for leaving US citizons of the GREATEST NATION without, while you have NO NEEDS. At that time you may thank Soros for a little bread and water, if your pervertid thinking has changed his thinking.?.

nate,
You phoney,
God is in heaven not on this Eartth.
Jesus only blesses those who are strong faith, not with a fake Sister name or those who support Fake religions like Islam!

Nate,
Get a job and get off food stamps. I'm living good. I bet you are too since you're posting on a website. That means you need DSL or Cable.
You phoney.
Hopefully Rudy will elimate proIslamic traitors like Soroass and Olbermann.

Hey Nate don't bitch you have Soreass controlling Ulbermahn.
Us patriotic Moderate-Liberals and Conservatives have Fox.
Don't bitch just because the Leftist-Islamic alliance doesn't control everything.
f--- Iran!
f--- Al-Qaeda!
f--- the Left!

Posted by: The Joker at March 17, 2007 3:12 AM

Sounds like RedWolf is getting back to his old rants. Always easy to spot when you can't attention as Jeff, you switch names. And then when that doesn't work you go on the attack. Always an easy spot.

You're a low life RedWolf. You're hooker mother left you alone when she went to the bar to Jim, your step dad. When she got home she left Jim with you while she went out to turn tricks in the trailer park. When she came back "uncle jim" showed how to put the mouth on him.

You've never been the same since.

Always trying to find an identity. Anything but who you are - trailer trash!

RedWolf=Jeff=Joker.

You're low life loser!

Uncle Jim/Coward watch aka Irish bitchass ,
Bad news I'm not Redwolf or Jeff.
UAs always your paranoid drunk inbred Irsiah mind is easy to spot.
I know, It's difficult knowing your ancestors were raped if they didn't grow potatoes fast enough for their English master. Hence your lack of thinking.
You are a lowlife who cheers death of American soldiers and support of Muslims that would cut your head off.
You are a spawn of slaves!
Loser.
My ancestors were conquereors, yours were conqueres.
Tough isn't it loser!

Cowardwatch,
I guess Uncle Jim is really your Mom's brother. Sinve your Uncle and dad are the same person.
A fine Irish tradition wouldn't you say Miclk!

You must be drunk you a--hole. It makes me laugh when you try to pretend to be someone else while spewing the same old lines you did way back when you thought RedWolf was a cool name that would not let go of.

Then I saved you racist sh-t and posted it every time you tried to pretend you were just a regular person.

You are willing to go to any level of deception to pass yourself off as normal, but what you will never do is admit to yourself that all you have is envy. Envy of people that came up in this world with a family that showed them something other than racist ignorant garbage.

It is burned into the minds of the people of the culture of the klan to never admit their heritage is one of evil and shame. Poor fool, the sins of the father are now the sins of the son.

Your wheels just spin and smoke but you never go anywhere in this life.

And you will go nowhere in the next.

Your an empty soul paying for the sins of your father.

Repent or face the same life your father had!

Good Night

Hew Coward,
Sorry that your ancestors were Potato farmers raped by the English.
Hence your inbred mind can't comprehend that Redwolf isnt the only Spanish person that detests Islam. Your ignorance is genetic. I laugh at vyou.
\Your whole posts consists of Trailer refernces. You must speak from experience.
Your ancestors wrere people like Vecengetorix, Mine were like Juliuis Ceasar.
Any Questions Irish loser whose peoples never amounted to nothing but drunk slaves of the English!

iamabrainwashed- tell us about how you support the troops by having a magnetic yellow ribbon on your car.

Posted by: indierik at March 17, 2007 1:50 AM

Oh yes, A yellow ribbon is a must. Those boys need us to keep up there spirits by driving suv's with the confederate flag and support the troops stickers. I also only watch fox or glenn beck when I am not listening to rush or sean on the radio. Can't wait to get my hands on Coulters latest book.

Keith's hypocracy strikes again. When it comes to the name of a CIA worker being leaked to the media, Keith gets red with rage. But when classified terrorist fighting measures are leaked to the media, Keith has no problem with it. He wants Karl Rove's security clearance revoked. But when a former National Security Advisor stole original classified documents from the National Archives for the sole purpose of sabotaging the work of the 9/11 Commission by covering up the previous administrations failures in fighting terrorism, Keith said nothing about revoking that person's security clearance.

Fitzgerald determined that Plame did not meet the legal definition for "Covert" which is why no one was charged for "outing" her. Yet the MSM and Plame still insist she was "covert". If she didn't meet the legal definition for the word than she was no longer covert. What about that is so difficult for the libs to get?

Its no wonder our intelligence services screwed up so badly dealing with 9/11 and Iraq. With "covert" or "NOC" agents volunteering their husbands to go on political missions and then having said husbands rebuke what is the prevailing wisdom with absolutely no facts and fabricated meetings and documents. Its no wonder we can't keep a secret when said husbands advertise their covert wives in "Who's who in American Politics". sh-t Plame makes Austin Powers look like a real spy. Pathetic.

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2007/03/questions_for_j.html

Mrs. Plame Wilson or whatever,

1. Have you ever disclosed you CIA affiliation with anyone not cleared for that information? Did you do so with prior CIA approval.

2. Why did you, as a covert agent as you claim, allow your husband to discuss his CIA affiliation with the press? Did the CIA ever tell you this may comprimise your status?

3. Are you aware that your husband has repeatedly claimed Iraq had WMD AFTER his trip to Niger, and therefore his trip in no way had changed his own mind that Iraq had WMD and Saddam would use them against us? I can show you his quotes if you would like.

4. Did you tell the CIA that your husband was going public with his CIA activities and that it might affect your status since your name Valerie Plame had been repeatedly been linked to him in public documents?
Did you try to dissuade your husband from diclosing your CIA relationship (spouse of CIA agent).

5. Why were you not reprimanded for joining you husband at press meetings where he discussed his CIA activities; and for apparent nepotism in recommending him for the assignment? Were you aware before you recommended sending your husband that he couldn't keep his mouth shut and was a liar and exaggerator?

6. Did your husband show you his NYT article before publication? If so, why did you allow him to publish clear lies such as knowing at the time about the forgeries, which wasn't known until a year later.

I know lots of Repubs are for Giliani these days but its a big mistake cause:

a He does business with Chavez
b He does business with crooks here
c Hes been divorced 3 times
d His children are stranged from him
e Hes lived with homos
f Hes gone out in drag.

Hes got no morals & Repubs are a moral party. We have values hes got no values. I know there are exceptions like Vice Pres Chaney's wife & daughter & some others but their wrong & they just make the Repub party weaker & its a real shame. Any 1 whose been divorced that many times cant be a good moral leader cause marriage is a covenant with God & when you turn your back on God your bad & you better watch out & every 1 a round you better watch out to & besides a divorce = a mistake & a big mistake & every 1 is allowed a mistake but how many & 3 big 1s is to many so hes not moral & he makes lots of mistakes so why would I vote for him & I wont. I hope the Repubs pick

1 GW Bush
2 Jeb Bush
3 Sam Brownback
4 Tom Delay
5 Mike Romny

cause their all good men with good morals & their good leaders but GIliani isnt & neither is MC Cain whose got 1 divorce which isnt as bad & if we pick Giliani I may not vote or I might vote for Sen Clinton tho I dont like her or her believes 1 little bit but I might do it just to tell the Repubs your not being moral. So no NO N O to GIliani I say & I hope you all have a good weekend GO BUCKEYES.

Fitzgerald determined that Plame did not meet the legal definition for "Covert" which is why no one was charged for "outing" her. Yet the MSM and Plame still insist she was "covert". If she didn't meet the legal definition for the word than she was no longer covert. What about that is so difficult for the libs to get?

Posted by: Brandon at March 17, 2007 9:46 AM
Then why did libby lie. Why the cover up? I hate to tell you, but you are about to witness the most corrupt administration ever go down in flames.

> Then why did libby lie.

Even more important, why did Olbermann lie?

OLBERMANN DIDN'T LIE, YOU LIED.

Why did Olbermann lie?

If you are a prosecutor and you already know who leaked the info (Armitage), but can't prosecute, then what you do is go on a witch hunt ask as many so-called conspirators to testify before a grand jury multiple times until you get contradictory info. It's deceitful and it's illegal. You won't hear Armitage's name on Olby's show. He must be covert as well, because no one is telling the truth about his role.

BTW. The grand jury actually laughed out loud at Clinton when he testified in the Lewinski affair. f---in Democrats.

Even more important, why did Olbermann lie?

Posted by: johnny dollar at March 17, 2007 2:19 PM

how in the hell is it more important to you that keith olbermann tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth than a goverment official? This brings to question your credibilty on any topic. Your elected officials make decisions that affect peoples lives. Keith is a host of a television show. That is it. Your president and his klan have been very active in the lying and decieving part, but this is okay because they are Republicans I guess.

BTW. The grand jury actually laughed out loud at Clinton when he testified in the Lewinski affair. f---in Democrats.

Posted by: Crash at March 17, 2007 2:22 PM

There is nothing to laugh about your stupidity at comparing Monica and a war ding dong.

IN THE COMMING WEEKS, IT'S GOING TO BE HEAVEN WATCHING THE TOTAL MELTDOWN OF THE MOST CORRUPT ADMINISTRATION IN HISTORY. KARL ROVE IS REALLY HITLER'S TEST TUBE BABY! (DEVELOPING).....

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BEFORE NEXT FRIDAY!

Everyday that goes by it becomes more obvious how corrupt republicans have been and you sorry excuses for truth seekers still talk about clinton. Like Zappa said, If your children ever find out how lame you were they will murder in your sleep."

Hey your right, there are some dumb asses from the south. John Edwards, Bill Clinton, Jack Murtha, Ted Turnner, and Robert Bird.

Posted by: The Factor at March 17, 2007 1:02 AM

LET'S NOT FORGET THE BIGGEST DUMB ASS SOUTHERN OF ALL TIME, GEORGE W. BUSH!

Sister Conese, such a detailed analysis of me deserves a response.

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"Who's grandmother is this? I thought a woman would be proud of a first lady who is smart enough to be a "co-president".

If I were Hillary's grandmother I would, no doubt, be extremely proud of her. I feel no 'pride' based on the same tenuous connection I have to her as to billions of other women in the world. Perhaps you meant respect and admiration? I have no particular respect and admiration based upon Hillary marrying her way into that unique co-presidency that she herself backed away from.
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"Dynamic duo"? Yes as in more than 70% favorability rating after 8 years of hearings on pointless topics by bunch of Congressmen with thick southern drawls. Did this stop Bill Clinton and his co-president from serving this nation well? Did they leave office with a surplus in our treasury or a multi-trillion dollar debt?"

Were they popular? Yes. Are they still popular? Yes. I don't agree with, respect and admire people based on their popularity.

Did HE, NOT THEY, run a surplus for a few years? On paper only is an argurable position. The National Debt increased each year under the Clinton administration just as it has historically under all administrations. Did HE, NOT THEY, leave us with a multi trillion dollar debt? Yes.

Sister Conese, you seem to have animosity issues with men with 'thick southern drawls'. To say nothing of the blatant bigotry your comment displays.
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"Looks to me like this grandmother has some animosity towards women who have power."

This grandmother has no animosity towards women, powerful or not. I have tremendous respect and admiration for many women who are both very smart and are/were very powerful. To name a few: Lady Margaret Thatcher, Ambassador Jeane Kirkpatric, Secretary Condeleeza Rice, Senator Elizabeth Dole, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, Queen Elizabeth I, Catherine the Great.

I agree Senator Clinton is a very smart and very powerful woman and deserves the respect her office bestows. I don't agree with her politically and I don't have much respect for her personally. That is not animosity.
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"Today as the inner circle of the worst president in history is crumbling there seems to be a half dozen people out there that still think Newt Gingrich runs the House and Hilary is just a first lady with no real position of power.

Who are these people that live in such a twisted delusional world?"

Where do they get the chutzpa to be so stupid in such an open and blatant manner.

Hilary Clinton is a senator and a contender for the highest office in our nation.

Newt Gingrich is a fat faced Fix News guest speaker who dreams of one day redeeming his lost career. Lost trying to take on Hilary and he she won!
Posted by: Sister Conese at March 17, 2007 2:30 AM"

My, my, you do seem to enjoy vomiting your animosity, hatred and prejudices 'in such an open and blatant manner'. Based on your breathless tirade I can only conclude that you 'live in such a twisted delusional world'.
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Grammie

> how in the hell is it more important to you that keith olbermann tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth than a goverment official?

I know this is a difficult concept to grasp, but I'll try to make it simple so everyone, even OlbyLoons, can get it.

This site is called Olbermann Watch.
This site is NOT called A Government Official Watch.

Clear now?

Contrary to popular belief, and what you hear on Countdown, Libby was NOT convicted for "outing" Plame. You can't "out" an agent who wasn't covert now can you? He was convicted for lying about it and lying to investigators about discussing her. THAT was the crime. Not the "leaking" of her "covert" status. You ought to be famiiar with what lying is since Olbermann engages in it on a nightly basis.

No, they think the site is called Bushwatch or foxWatch or whatever, JD. They've never grasped the concept that this site is called Olbermannwatch. Remember the tiresome Mike and his insistence that any discussion of Olbermann was "off-topic"?

This site is called Olbermann Watch.
This site is NOT called A Government Official Watch.

Clear now?

Posted by: johnny dollar at March 17, 2007 3:47 PM

I will try to make it clear to you. You have just given your credibility away "again" by stating it is more important that you watch olbermann than your leaders. So what he has to say about your leaders and if there is any truth to what he says is not important. What is important is that you discredit and attempt to humiliate him or people who watch and enjoy his show. You have a gripe against Olbermann. You will support an administration that he has spoken out against even though they have mistreated our own wounded and have misused our military. Does it matter to you that Bush lied when he said he would get th the bottom of the "leak" and we now know he made no attempt to do that. No. Olbermann watch is your calling. Well, thank you for the oppurtunity to read the thoughts of the brainwashed OCD's on this site with regards to Olbermann, who is your nightmare and thank God for him.

My haven't the Olbyloons been rather in a snit ever since Owatch returned. They're rather like their cult-leader, gven to overstatements and flat-out lies. No where did JD say in his posts that it was more important to him to watch Olbermann than anything else. You just assume that because you aren't very bright. If you're so outraged about truth-telling, why don't you ask your cult-leader Olbermann why he presents such an unbalanced "news" program and why there's never anyone who tells the ENTIRE story on his program? You're a hypocrite of the worst order.

You're a hypocrite of the worst order.

Posted by: Brandon at March 17, 2007 4:34 PM

The hypocrisy of attacking a tv host in this day and age when you have a entire network "Fox" who has a cult following of their own shows how bright you are. Once again, it isn't what Keith says about your leader or truth seeking that motivates you, it's that you can't stand that you and your fellow cult members are being exposed as corrupted self serving and basically incompetant. Keith is just one voice who is speaking what millions in this country feel.

This site is a great place for what you call "olbyloons" who by the way do not follow Keith for Keith's sake ding dongs, we listen to him because he is rare with the current TV selections, to really get a grasp of how far out of the mainstream "YOU PEOPLE" are. The fear after 911 gave people like Cheney, Rumsfield, and the decider some time to grab power. They did, and now we see how weak and paranoid they really are. You can watch Olbermann and try and discredit him all you want. The clothes are off the emporer, and he is naked before the whole world. And we can now see all of you sucking his behind. I feel shame for you all.

The hypocrisy of attacking a tv host in this day and age when you have a entire network "Fox" who has a cult following of their own shows how bright you are. Once again, it isn't what Keith says about your leader or truth seeking that motivates you, it's that you can't stand that you and your fellow cult members are being exposed as corrupted self serving and basically incompetant. Keith is just one voice who is speaking what millions in this country feel.

Posted by: yourallfreakingnutsifyouaskme at March 17, 2007 4:42 PM

Amen to that! Can't believe these dingbats have the nerve to bring up liars. This administration is nothing but lies.

Keith Olbermann is refreshing and entertaining, while Fox Noise is like watching a drunk puke.

Keith Olbermann is refreshing and entertaining, while Fox Noise is like watching a drunk puke.

Posted by: Drive-By at March 17, 2007 5:03 PM

That is one of the reasons "they" hate him. He makes them look sick and sad. They "Fox" all look like they have something stuck up their behind.

This site is called Olbermann Watch.
This site is NOT called A Government Official Watch.

Clear now?

Posted by: johnny dollar at March 17, 2007 3:47 PM

It's more fun to use as a "Chimp Faced Bush Site" and you pay for it, HA.

That is one of the reasons "they" hate him. He makes them look sick and sad. They "Fox" all look like they have something stuck up their behind.

Posted by: yourallfreakingnutsifyouaskme at March 17, 2007 5:10 PM

"Dittos" I hear there is a Dildo attached to every chair at FOX. Could this be true?

> Keith is just one voice who is speaking what millions in this country feel.

But why did Olbermann lie?

Cult? What the f--- are you talking about? You f---in morons don't even the definition of liar. You say insane things like Bush lied about WMD even though you know good goddamn well that Hillary and Kerry and France and England were all saying the same thing. Its only lying if you know the truth and say something else. Like when Sandy Berger decided to pilfer the National Archive by hiding classified documents in his pants and socks. He then shredded theses documents and then told the FBI that he had done nothing.

Where was your government official watch then? How about Wen Ho Lee or the Clintons receiving millions of dollars in donations from China? How about the ludicrous amount of pardons that Clinton made? How about the 7 times Clinton coulda captured or killed bin laden? How about clinton worring more abot the Israel - Palestinian peace process that he wouldn't accept bin laden from the Sudan? That legal wall between the CIA and FBI, sheer brilliance. I know.... I know. You're nuanced. No. You just need an excuse for your hypocrisy.

Scooter Lied to federal prosecutors, therefore he should go to jail. But don't f---in pretend like this wasn't prosecutor gone wild. Just like sheer stupidity got Plame outed. You believe in Natural Selection right? She is a dumbass married a dumbass husband, carreer as spy, done.

How about you f---in libs are the dumbest people on earth? You are the definition of cult thinking personified. Whether it is your rejection of individuality or your obsession with "it taking a Village", you are so dense you don't even realize what you say.

Pot meet kettle. Kettle ..... Pot.

f---in Morons

> Keith is just one voice who is speaking what millions in this country feel.

But why did Olbermann lie?

Posted by: johnny dollar at March 17, 2007 5:16 PM

Who died and made you the goddess of lie
detecting? Lies and Repugs are one in the same.

How about you f---in libs are the dumbest people on earth? You are the definition of cult thinking personified. Whether it is your rejection of individuality or your obsession with "it taking a Village", you are so dense you don't even realize what you say.

Pot meet kettle. Kettle ..... Pot.

f---in Morons

Posted by: Crash at March 17, 2007 5:19 PM

Your arguements are weak and show desperation. You can call a pot a kettle but you can't defend what Olbermann rightly attacks. A corrupt and dangerous administration. Rejection of individuality? I guess giving away half of your civil rights because your decider says you should is your way of being an individual. You are frustrated and angry because you decider is losing his grip. Point the finger at Clinton if it makes you feel better. Kettle meet Pot. Pot.... Kettle.

Your arguements are weak and show desperation. You can call a pot a kettle but you can't defend what Olbermann rightly attacks. A corrupt and dangerous administration. Rejection of individuality? I guess giving away half of your civil rights because your decider says you should is your way of being an individual. You are frustrated and angry because you decider is losing his grip. Point the finger at Clinton if it makes you feel better. Kettle meet Pot. Pot.... Kettle.

Posted by: yourallfreakingnutsifyouaskme at March 17, 2007 5:27 PM
Here is the person once known as "the decider", so proud of his previous posts, he, too, has changed his name.

One of many things I have noticed, recently. This blog is much more popular since it closed and re-opened. If it was a plan, it worked. Kudo's to Robert......and Johnny.

Here is the person once known as "the decider", so proud of his previous posts, he, too, has changed his name.

Posted by: jeff at March 17, 2007 5:30 PM

Who do you think I am?

An Olbyloon/cult membr said, "Keith is just one voice who is speaking what millions in this country feel."

This isn't about how you FEEL, it's about the TRUTH and Olbermann avoids the truth when it's unflatterng to the Democrats. Then he has the gall to call his program a "news" show and you're stupid enough to believe that it's factual, not opinion-based.

I've said this before and I'll say it again. I don't watch Fox. So how they're "brain-washing" me is anyone's guess. And again, this site is NOT "Foxwatch" so that's a moot point. If you've got an issue with Fox, and it's vey clear that 99.9% of you do, go elsewhere to bitch about that. I understand there are sites specfically for that kind of thing. But not matter what you might think of Fox, at least they are honest enough to label their opinion shows as such, not try to convince people they're watching "news" like Olbermann does. For people who have a stick up your butts about "truth", you seem to have very fluid definitions for what "truth" and "honestY' really are.

Once again I have not defended any corruption. It is you moron who said that we are focused on the wrong person, that we should be focused on our politicians. So lets have it, go after that liar Hillary too. You don't get to just pick your lies to attack. That makes you hypocrite. I on the other hand, am completely intellectually honest. I hate those f---ers who told me that they would cut spending, and secure our border, but I hate those who prosthelitise even more. Those who claim to be "speaking truth to power" all the while ommitting facts that don't fit in his model of thinking. Its an absolute disgrace.

I know you dumbsh-ts will miss the point again and you will go off on some tangent claiming I am a religious nut or I am a fascist or that I defend Bush etc.... All of which is untrue, but you have nowhere to go, so you do what Olby does. You make sh-t up.

All this logic hurts my head. I must do something, anything. You are racists!!!! And you watch FOX!!!! And your stupid!!!!! Whew I feel better. Time to back to my parents' basement and watch cartoons while pulling a toke on my makeshift honeybear pipe. Its everyone else's fault that I live in my parents basement and have no job. Its that damned liar bush, had he not lied about Iraq, I'd have a job. Instead I am in the 5% that don't have one.

Crash and Brandon, Hello, This is just me codas, otherwise known as Donora, PA. Otherwise known as I think yourallfreakingnutsifyouaskme! You say a lot but don't say much.

If Reagan were alive to read the comments by the conservatives, he really would be crying. When did you all become so hate-filled and humorless? You all act like mullahs.

If Reagan were alive to read the comments by the conservatives, he really would be crying. When did you all become so hate-filled and humorless? You all act like mullahs.

Posted by: Mrs. R. Adrian Philby at March 17, 2007 5:53 PM

If Nixon were alive he would kick them all in their neocon fantasy loving fannies.

Hey guys, it is impossible and futile to attempt a discussion with self righteous, crusading, militant, religious fanatics. To them we are heretics who refuse to bow to their political gods and his vicar on earth, KO.

Give them some room to hold a prayer meeting and chant to each other how they are the true believers. I can almost smell the incense and hear the liturgical chants when a few of them get going in a round robin of praise.

Grammie

Hey guys, it is impossible and futile to attempt a discussion with self righteous, crusading, militant, religious fanatics. To them we are heretics who refuse to bow to their political gods and his vicar on earth, George Bush.

Give them some room to hold a prayer meeting and chant to each other how they are the true believers. I can almost smell the incense and hear the liturgical chants when a few of them get going in a round robin of praise.

Its like talking to a 10 year old.

I know you are but what am I?

Morons. Absolute morons.

Give them some room to hold a prayer meeting and chant to each other how they are the true believers. I can almost smell the incense and hear the liturgical chants when a few of them get going in a round robin of praise.

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 17, 2007 5:58 PM

I think it's more than with them...it's about us. It isn't policy positions that have them koo-koo for keith, it's his treatment of conservatives and his refusal to air their arguments or positions.

This is less a reverence towards liberal ideals than it is a wild-eyed rage towards political opponents.

Olbermann is indeed the vicar of that sect.

Its like talking to a 10 year old.

I know you are but what am I?

Morons. Absolute morons.

Posted by: Crash at March 17, 2007 6:07 PM

Now Crash, it's just a blog-board.

The electoral process is the way you hold politicians accountable. This nation has, will, and can hold Bush and company accountable at the ballot box. But how do you hold journalists accountable? By blogs like this. And that's why the Olbermann cultists/loons hate Owatch so much. They know we are right. They know (and some even admit) he's biased. But just so long as he spins the news THEIR way, they're happy. And that makes them hypocrites.

The repugs are down in the dumps because their little empire is about to fall, while George, Karl, and Ted are hold up in the white house watching Broke Back Mountain. Conservative values?

crying. When did you all become so hate-filled and humorless? You all act like mullahs.

Posted by: Mrs. R. Adrian Philby at March 17, 2007 5:53 PM

How's Kim?... :D

Prove it "Chimpy".

The repugs are down in the dumps because their little empire is about to fall, while George, Karl, and Ted are hold up in the white house watching Broke Back Mountain. Conservative values?

Posted by: ChimpFaceBush at March 17, 2007 6:18 PM
Burger KIng, is that you? Sounds like the crap you used to say or maybe mikey/woozy.

Morons. Absolute morons.

Posted by: Crash at March 17, 2007 6:07 PM

I know you are but what am I

Prove it "Chimpy".

Posted by: Brandon at March 17, 2007 6:19 PM

The only proof needed is watching Karl's face watching Bush. He saying "Wish I could quit you! But I can't, I love you! Damn it." This is going to be the love story of the Bush administration.

This moron likes Keith because his show offers an intelligent and entertaining perspective on the news. I don't get a migrane like I do watching Fox. As for those who say they don't watch Fox so they are not brainwashed by it, well...you have no excuse then. You just choose to be antiliberal and bashing Keith is fun for you. His show will gain more of an audience and Bush is cooked already. This site is very good for the fact that it allows perspectives. I respect that. I don't respect the fact that people get all in an uproar over Keith and sit quietly by while the likes of Coulter and the drug addicted bufoon, along with ALL of Fox lies every dam day to this country.

yoo hoo, cee? are you still out there or has the rapture happened? I hope you come back soon. you are the funniest person on this site. then Janet and cecelia. you are like the trinity. isn't it about time for you to part the red sea or something to save the neofacist, i mean neocon new world order?

I like Keith because his show is uplifting and entertaining. But. most of all he gets under the feathers of the wingnuts.

Becky, Keith does more than get under their feathers. He puts a mirror up to what they have been supporting and they despise him for it. Like Dracula, they can't see themselves in the mirror and having someone out there who can show them to eachother scares them. What they fear they must try to kill. It is the Neocon way.

> I like Keith because his show is uplifting and entertaining.

But why does he lie?

Cecelia, as usual you have nailed it.

Shsss, don't mention that to Mrs. Philby. I think he died in the mother land sometime back.

Grammie

P.S. Have you noticed Codas is back claiming to have..... What is he claiming? Well, whatever it is, he is living proof of that old adage that you can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear.

And what Olberman fears (ie., the truth), he simply refrains from reporting on. He claims he's not political at all, he claims he's not biased but night after night he spikes stories that would show the Dems as they realy are all the while accepting $$$ from radical lefty groups to host fund-raising events for them. If he's so honest and not politially biased, then why is he hosting (or was booked to host) a lefty fund-raising event? Why does he spike stories? If he's holding the mirror up as you claim, why is it only to the GOP? You really think he's being an unbiased "journalist" when he is so one-sided? HYPOCRITES! One and all.

P.S. Have you noticed Codas is back claiming to have..... What is he claiming? Well, whatever it is, he is living proof of that old adage that you can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear.

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 17, 2007 7:29 PM

I think America already proved that in Iraq Janet.

But why does he lie?

Posted by: johnny dollar at March 17, 2007 7:28 PM

You being a right winger, I can't believe you have the nads to call keith a liar. The entire republican party is one big lie machine. By the way, what is your sick fixation on Keith Olbermann? Is this site funded by O Reilly personally or Roger Ailes?

HYPOCRITES! One and all.

Posted by: Brandon at March 17, 2007 7:33 PM

Yes, like the Presidents press secretary, Fox news. Or Cheney going on Limbaugh or Brit Hume. I am sure those guys are truth seekers. You can't stand that someone out there is as hypocritical as them? Are you considered paranoid if someone is really following you and trying to kill you? Are you partisan if you call a spade a spade and expose a poor excuse for a president?

HYPOCRITES! One and all.

Posted by: Brandon at March 17, 2007 7:33 PM
I forgot to add carl cameron, another truth seeker. His wife worked for Bush's election. What would you say if someone from cbs or msnbc worked for Gore?

> I forgot to add carl cameron, another truth seeker. His wife worked for Bush's election.

A discredited lie. However, Greta van Susteren's husband did work for Kerry's election.

> By the way, what is your sick fixation on Keith Olbermann?

Because he lies. Why does he lie?

And Cameron was honest about that. And Keith Olbermann is the best spin-master for the Dems out there. And he's dishonest about that.

Becky--are you the same Becky who runs the fawning fan site for Olby? How much do YOU get paid for that?

"This site is called Olbermann Watch.
This site is NOT called A Government Official Watch."

Translation: I don't care if a Republican lies! That does not and will not ever outrage me. I am outraged when Olbermann lies! So stick to the topic and don't bother me with instances of Republican lying. because that is OK.

Becky--are you the same Becky who runs the fawning fan site for Olby? How much do YOU get paid for that?

Posted by: Brandon at March 17, 2007 8:30 PM
Brandon, she makes nothing. Olby just pops in her 1 room shack once in a while and gives her his "8 second ride" he is famous for.

8:50 demonstrates the Loon mindset (if they can be said to possess a mind that is). By using that logic, I guess that a site dedicated to Sports should also discuss Bush because that's all YOU want to talk about. Or a site dedicated to covering TVNews should suddenly begin to discuss politics because THAT's all you apparently want to talk about. Gee, did it ever occur to you to go to a site that is dedicated to discussing politics instead of trying to turn the site into a "Bushwatch" site when the name and mission of the site are clear? Cox gives you a ton of leeway to bring up your repeated posts of "Bush sucks" but because you can't get everyone to agree with you, you pout, stomp your foot and then order everyone to discuss what you want to. Funny, sounds a hell of a lot like good ole' Mike.

Who's stomping their feet if they can't get everyone on board to trash Olby? All the childish crap about past bimbos, penis size and so called lies is getting a bit old. There appears to be about 20 people posting on this site. A real record breaker for sure. The Bush Supporters are falling apart because in another 6 months, we will be seeing Bush boarding and airplane saying "You won't have Geroge to kick around anymore and I am not a crook."

And your "Bush sucks" spiel isn't old? Come on Mike. we know it's you.

Talk about hypocritical. The vast majority of posts on Olbermann fan boards are all about how he looks, what he's wearing, etc. One fan board even supplies a daily update on what tie he was wearing. (By the way, anyone seen the red "Karma" tie ever again? Just asking). At the moment, they're conducting polls on his new glasses. And his personal life? Please. They've dissected his latest "relationship" from every angle and then some. But according to them, the posts they make on his personal life and his personal appearance are okay because they worship at Olbermann's altar.

And they just don't get that we'd stop posting personal remarks about Olbermann when he stops making similar slams against people on his little cable bias-fest. They can't even see the irony in it all.

Hypocrisy looks good on me.

Brandon,
Why does the Left worship Ulbermahn like he's some god!
I think a sick Cult has developed over him.
It's nuts, if you attack Ulbermahn, the Left uses Stalinist tactics to silence. Unreal!

Sometimes cutting and pasting is the only way to go. Will this poll be covered on Olbermann Monday?

From The Sunday Times
March 18, 2007
Iraqis: life is getting better
Marie Colvin

MOST Iraqis believe life is better for them now than it was under Saddam Hussein, according to a British opinion poll published today.

The survey of more than 5,000 Iraqis found the majority optimistic despite their suffering in sectarian violence since the American-led invasion four years ago this week.

One in four Iraqis has had a family member murdered, says the poll by Opinion Research Business. In Baghdad, the capital, one in four has had a relative kidnapped and one in three said members of their family had fled abroad. But when asked whether they preferred life under Saddam, the dictator who was executed last December, or under Nouri al-Maliki, the prime minister, most replied that things were better for them today.

Only 27% think there is a civil war in Iraq, compared with 61% who do not, according to the survey carried out last month.
Related Links

* Resilient Iraqis ask what civil war?

* Violence slashed as troop surge hits Baghdad

By a majority of two to one, Iraqis believe military operations now under way will disarm all militias. More than half say security will improve after a withdrawal of multinational forces.

Margaret Beckett, the foreign secretary, said the findings pointed to progress. �There is no widespread violence in the four southern provinces and the fact that the picture is more complex than the stereotype usually portrayed is reflected in today�s poll,� she said.

"the Left uses Stalinist tactics to silence"

Really? How do they do that?

"Really? How do they do that?"

The Leftist media launches a full attack when some one on the right criticizes a leftist. When Ulbermahn gets's attack Leftists blogs like Think Progress and Daily Kos send emails to their cult members and they lainch a full fledge assault on the critic.
When Hillary gets attacked, the media rushes to her defence and atacks however attacked Hillary. If you speak our against the Left, the blogs and the media atatc k you and keep it up to silence you.
It's Stalinism at it's purest!

I g.ive the Left credit, they are very well organize by their Messiah Soreass and his prophet Ulbermahn!

"more than half say security will improve after a withdrawal of multimational forces"

What does that tell you about what we should do?

"it's Stalinism at it's purest!"

Sounds exactly like what right wing radio and Fox does all the time.

"What does that tell you about what we should do?"

I agree, we should arm the Shia and Kurds and let them crush the Sunnis. That's why the violence will end when we leave. The Shias will do a genocidal solution!

"Sounds exactly like what right wing radio and Fox does all the time. "

The Left is better organized and has more of the media on it's side the the Right.

:The Left is better organized and has more of the media on it's side the the right"

I disagree.

Yeah right, the Left is very well organized and when they get criticized the Media sides with them and tries to destroy bthe critic.
It's called Stalinism!

Stalinlism is a form of totalitarian government, not a phenomena driven by a free media. Quite the opposite.

Rodan,
Olbermann is the prophet of truth. He's honest and never lies. You Neocons can't stand him because he demolishes your side in debates! He tells the truth and is the most honest person in the media.
He's a hero!

The rightwing media bias is what got Bush reelected. The rightwing has bought its way into churches and worked people up over personal issues about sex and morality and made caring for the poor and disabled a sin in this country. Tax cuts and war is all they care about. Materialism is where there heads are. Look at the divorce rate in the red states.

"Stalinlism is a form of totalitarian government, not a phenomena driven by a free media. Quite the opposite.

It's also a tactic used to silence critics. The media is hardly free as he Left dominates most of the papers and broadcat.

We are better organized than you Neocons. Yo bad. We control the media and there's nothing you can do about it.
Ha ha you have Fox but we have CNN, MSNBC, ABC news, CBS news, NBC news, NY Times, Washington Post, LA Time and other organizations.
Ha ha losers

Brandon you are total f---ing moron.

Olbermann's show discusses news items. He takes an postion on those items. If you are going to dicuss Olbermann, you have to discuss the news. If you are unwilling to denounce someone who lies in politics discussed on Olbermann's show, then you political bias is as bad as you claim olbermann's is.

Is there a wingnut on this blog who isn't an idiot?

"he Left dominates most of the papers and broadcat."

And yet I can't turn on my AM radio without getting overwhelmed with right wing attack shows.

Olbermann speaks only the truth. He's not biased. He's fair and impartial. He's the only non biased newsman left!

Ol,bermann is flawless and his honesty is unquestionable. He's a giant of man that cares about us the people!

Olbermann tells the country the truth about your sorry excuse for elected officials who represent rich corporate interests over the common working man. A bunch of you have a 41k plan and a couple of credit cards and you think you are a republican. Republicans have never ever done a freaking thing for the little guy in this country. They screwed them right up the behind every chance they get. Bush, like the rest of them has earned the criticism he gets. I can't wait until he is his term is up. The whole world will rejoice.

Olbermann speaks only the truth. He's not biased. He's fair and impartial. He's the only non biased newsman left!"

A cute, intentionally over the top comment, but his obvious bias is minimal compared to some of his conterparts on the right.

Rodan,
Olbermann is the prophet of truth. He's honest and never lies. You Neocons can't stand him because he demolishes your side in debates! He tells the truth and is the most honest person in the media.
He's a hero!

Posted by: Styles P at March 17, 2007 11:21 PM
Ulbermahn has no debates on his show, so, how could he "demolish" anyone? In case you can't hear or read, he lies almost every day. Many of his lies are documented right here on this blog for all to see (the ones that can read, that is).

If Olbermann fell off the planet tommorow it wouldn't change the fact that the things he has pointed out over the past two years have helped this country wake up. If you believe he and other Bush critics were wrong a few years ago then why do we keep hearing "mistakes were made" out of Republicans mouth every other day now. When these mistake were pointed out by the critics they were called traitors and everything else. Olbermann was and is correct with his exposing and detailing the Bush administrations mistakes. You, who can't deal with reality have a problem with that. Get over it and get ready because the truth is not yet fully revealed about the decider and his VP. And that's what it comes down to doesn't it. It is not Olbermann, it is what he is saying.

Obviously Mr Styles, your Cobert style sarcasm is being lost on some of the right wingers on this site.

I think Olbermann should get an award for being the one man on television besides Maher, Colbert, and Stewart who wasn't intimidated by the rightwing media bias.

Olbermann isn't biased. He lets both sides have their say. He's impartial believes in fairness. he's a true newsman.
He's the greatest and fairest man !

Brandon, mikey/woozy is here, burger king/bushkills is here, bob/booby is here, too. They just changed their names, we know it, they know it. What would this blog be w/out them? Did I forget anyone?

Olbermann is biased against the crooks who stole our credibilty in the world and the people in power who let thousands of young men die on foreign soil for a war that they had no real plan for fighting. If you think it is funny to make light of him thsn you probably don't mind your military being weakend and your tax dollars going to the middle east. When you can't find a cop or drive on a decent road blame yourself.

"Did I forget anyone?"

Obviously, you did.

Codas,
I'm glad you support the Muslims like I do.
Olbermann is standing up for the peace loving Mulsims. The Ayatollahs of Iran aare peace loving like the Dalia Lama.
Olbermann is standing up for thr peace loving Muslims!

Just so you know, i am the eggman, they are the eggman, i am not mikey/woozy bushkill or anyone but me. one of millions of Americans who are sick to death of rightwing war loving bullsh-t artists who do nothing but sit on their asses while young men fight for them. When these young men come home and kick you in the ass it will be because you deserve it.

I think Olbermann should get an award for being the one man on television besides Maher, Colbert, and Stewart who wasn't intimidated by the rightwing media bias.

Posted by: Codas is back claiming to have..... What is he claiming? at March 17, 2007 11:49 PM
They're not intimidated, nor are they taken seriously. Wait, aren't you on the "ban Colbert" band wagon? He is being accused of not having enough dems on his show.

Colbert makes fools out of the right wing every night on his show. Most of them are too dense to know it.

They're not intimidated, nor are they taken seriously."

This site, and your undivided attention to it, proves you wrong.

Just so you know, i am the eggman, they are the eggman, i am not mikey/woozy bushkill or anyone but me. one of millions of Americans who are sick to death of rightwing war loving bullsh-t artists who do nothing but sit on their asses while young men fight for them. When these young men come home and kick you in the ass it will be because you deserve it.

Posted by: Codas is back claiming to have..... What is he claiming? at March 18, 2007 12:03 AM
How wrong you are, they will kick your ass for not supporting them while they were there defending YOU and your right to spew hate!

This site, and your undivided attention to it, proves you wrong.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 12:07 AM
What proves me wrong?

"What proves me wrong?"

Mostly the density in that grey matter between your ears.

How wrong you are, they will kick your ass for not supporting them while they were there defending YOU and your right to spew hate!

Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 12:09 AM

You must be under the impresion that the troops still support Bush. Your wrong. as usual. Ask the veterans that are being neglected when they come home what they think. Support the troops? Bush never has. Putting a yellow ribbon on your car and hiding behind the flag supports nothing that matters to a family who burried their son or husband.

Its really kind of scary to think of all the radical Muslims that will be swimming across the Atlantic to attack us after we stop fighting them over there to keep from fighting them over here.

Codas,
I know several people who fought in Iraq. They hate you Leftists. They told me that the Al-Qaeda terrorists had videos of Olbermann and that you clowns encouraged them. Most of the Vets feel betrayed by you Leftists losers.

As far as spewing hate goes the rightwing has made a nice living off of doing that for years.

"Its really kind of scary to think of all the radical Muslims that will be swimming across the Atlantic to attack us after we stop fighting them over there to keep from fighting them over here. "

After we leave Iraq, they will overrun Jordan Egypt, Israel and Turkey. hen they will conquer Europe. After that with help from the Left they will attempt to overrun this country. The problem is we will resist the Islamic invasion. The red states will hole but the Blue states will fall!

"Most of the Vets feel betrayed by you leftists losers."

Prove it! The ones I know say just the opposite.

You must be under the impresion that the troops still support Bush. Your wrong. as usual. Ask the veterans that are being neglected when they come home what they think. Support the troops? Bush never has. Putting a yellow ribbon on your car and hiding behind the flag supports nothing that matters to a family who burried their son or husband.

Posted by: Codas is back claiming to have..... What is he claiming? at March 18, 2007 12:14 AM
3 or 4 discruntled vets and you think it's all of them? That's what Comunist Network News and More Snot Nosed BroadCasters would like you to think, the whole military is against Bush. Too bad for you, it's not true. Why do you have to keep bringing up the yellow ribbons, do you hate them that much? I bet a traitor like you cringes every time you see one.

Did you ever read of about the 7th century Jihad?
The Roman and Persian underestimated the Muslims, look what happened to them!
Read history!

"After we leave Iraq, They will overun Jordan Egypt, Israel, and Turkey."

LOL! They can't even overun themselves.

"LOL! They can't even overun themselves."

So how did they conquered the Roman and Persian Empires?

"What proves me wrong?"

Mostly the density in that grey matter between your ears.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 12:12 AM
That's what I thought, no proof. Next?

"Prove it! The ones I know say just the opposite."

One of My cousin's friend is back. So is a neighbor of Joker and I. Also I know another vet who goes the bar I go to. He was wounded by an IED and he hates the Left.
He uses Keith Olbermann's face as target practice. I know, we go to the same range.
So I know 3 personally who feel betrayed by the media. They all tell me thyat when they raided houses in Iraq, they found videos of Olbermann and the NY Times.
he told me the vets that come here and bitch were the pussies that when fire fights happened they hid around the corner.

No, nobody can prove you wrong because of that densely packed thing between your ears that filters out all unfavorable input.

"Did I forget anyone?"

Obviously, you did.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 12:00 AM
Spineless "anons" don't count.

Codas,
I know several people who fought in Iraq. They hate you Leftists. They told me that the Al-Qaeda terrorists had videos of Olbermann and that you clowns encouraged them. Most of the Vets feel betrayed by you Leftists losers.

Posted by: Rodan at March 18, 2007 12:16 AM

If they are stupid enough to listen to your kind they will hate me. If and when they take off the uniform and start thinking for themselves they will see who put them in harms way to begin with. They will also vote. I respect the people who serve but I do not idiolize them. They are Americans just like you and me. I don't feel the same way about the world as I did when I was in my twenties and they won't either. I hate to be the one to tell you but the military is there to support our country not the other way around. We have a responsibility to them to be very careful where we send them. Those that know that will hold the people who did send them accountable. You can bet on that.

Yep, thats what I thought. My vets were the "pussies" and your vets were the heros. You live in a little fairy tale world.

If they are stupid enough to listen to your kind they will hate me. If and when they take off the uniform and start thinking for themselves they will see who put them in harms way to begin with. They will also vote. I respect the people who serve but I do not idiolize them. They are Americans just like you and me. I don't feel the same way about the world as I did when I was in my twenties and they won't either. I hate to be the one to tell you but the military is there to support our country not the other way around. We have a responsibility to them to be very careful where we send them. Those that know that will hold the people who did send them accountable. You can bet on that.

Posted by: Codas is back claiming to have..... What is he claiming? at March 18, 2007 12:27 AM
Your own statement proves you don't support them, what a spineless prick you are.

"spineless "anons" don't count"

Lets see. Enlighten me about whats so brave about posting on a computer while hiding behind a keyboard? Probably the same sort of mindset that thinks a little ribbon on their car is what it takes to support the troops.

"Yep, thats what I thought. My vets were the "pussies" and your vets were the heros. You live in a little fairy tale world."

Well my buddy still has fragments in his legs. He thinks the antiwar vets are pussy. That's his opinion. He said they were paper pushers or hid around corners.

Codas,
The people I know that went to fight in Iraq went to fight Muslims. Ignorant Americans don't realize this is a religious war that began in the 7th Century.
Wake up fool!

The problem is that we don't unleash our full might! We can end the Iraq war in 2 weeks if we level the cities there. So we aren't supporting the troops by not using our technology!

Lets see. Enlighten me about whats so brave about posting on a computer while hiding behind a keyboard? Probably the same sort of mindset that thinks a little ribbon on their car is what it takes to support the troops.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 12:33 AM
I prove my support by my words and actions. I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS 100%! Can you say that?

Your own statement proves you don't support them, what a spineless prick you are.

Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 12:29 AM

I have no doubt that you are brave enough to go over there right now and support our troops by taking the gun out of one of their hands and fighting in their place. My hats off to you. Go get em. i, on the other hand would like to be sure the rewards are worth the price of putting a gun in a young mans hands and leaving him to choose to kill or be killed. Of course you must be outraged at the treatment the wounded are getting correct?

Your own statement proves you don;t support them, what a spineless prick you are.

The truth is that Codas is the true patriot who supports them in the most meaningfull way possible. He wants to get them the hell out of that meat grinder so that no more of them are killed are maimed.

The problem is that we don't unleash our full might! We can end the Iraq war in 2 weeks if we level the cities there. So we aren't supporting the troops by not using our technology!

Posted by: Rodan at March 18, 2007 12:35 AM
MOAB baby! Turn 'em loose. We have enough moabs over there to level the whole country. Leaflets then bombs, done deal.

"I prove my support by my words and actions" I SUPPORT OUR TROOPS 100%! can you say that?"

LOL! Words don;y mean a damned thing. What are your actions?

MOAB baby! Turn 'em loose. We have enough moabs over there to level the whole country. Leaflets then bombs, done deal.
Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 12:38 AM

Is this what happens when people with X-Box's Vote?

have no doubt that you are brave enough to go over there right now and support our troops by taking the gun out of one of their hands and fighting in their place. My hats off to you. Go get em. i, on the other hand would like to be sure the rewards are worth the price of putting a gun in a young mans hands and leaving him to choose to kill or be killed. Of course you must be outraged at the treatment the wounded are getting correct?

Posted by: Codas is back claiming to have..... What is he claiming? at March 18, 2007 12:36 AM
I am not happy about Walter Reed,but, it's only one hospital out of hundreds. Go to Ann Coulter's web site, she has a write up about the whole thing, how it's blown out of proportion.

"leaflets then bombs, done deal"

More direct proof of that density between your ears I was talking about earlier.

There have always been people in this country like Rodan and Jeff who get off on the idea of little girls heads being blown off and old ladies crying over their husbands grave. yes, it is so much of a rush to imagine the warm blood pouring out of one of our American heroes as his life passes out of him so Rodan can sleep better at night after he and Jeff calls their fellow Americans spineless pricks for not enjoying the bloodlust as much as them.

Jeff,
That's why they told me.

Hey when will Cowardwatch start the your Redwolf accusations?

Is this what happens when people with X-Box's Vote?

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 12:42 AM
Hey mikey/woozy, i knew you were here. No, I don't have an x box. I haven't played a video game since pong.

"little girls heads being blown off and old ladies crying over their husbands grave"

Killl them too!
Hey whst happened to the Persian and Roman Empires? Did the Muslims show mercy in their conquests codas?

"Go to Ann Coulter's web site,"

Oh Yea, Ann Coulter, America's biggest demogogue of hate, ignorance, and distortion! LOL

Ann Coulter is a dick jeff and you know it.

"Go to Ann Coulter's web site..."

I knew Jeff was hot for that He-Bitch.

Send Coulter to Fight instead of Write, the Iraqs would die of Fright.

Hey whst happened to the Persian and Roman Empires? Did the Muslims show mercy in their conquests codas?

Posted by: Rodan at March 18, 2007 12:45 AM

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say that those folks are already dead. You want to take revenge on sh-t that happened 1300 years ago. Sounds like a Radical Muslim type of attitude to me.

Did I say I worshipped Ann Coulter? I just said she had a good write up about Walter Reed and the cause of it's conditions.

People you call mikey/woozy must have really gotten to you based on how you keep bringing up those names. Good for them! Maybe you should get an X-Box, it might help get some of those dead brain cells between your ears firing again.

Codas,
"Sounds like a Radical Muslim type of attitude to me."

That's what we're up against. You must defeatt radicals by being radical.
Just like we defeated Germany and Japan.
That was radical.

"Go to Ann Coulter's web site..."

I knew Jeff was hot for that He-Bitch.

Send Coulter to Fight instead of Write, the Iraqs would die of Fright.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 12:47 AM
Actually, I prefer Michelle Malkin, if I had to choose between the 2....

Did I say I worshipped Ann Coulter? I just said she had a ggod write up about Walter Reed and the cause of it's condition."

Ann Coulter doesn't know sh-t. She knows only hate and divisiveness. And yes, you obviously do worship Coulter, and her ilk.

I only bring up mikey/woozy because he said the other day he wasn't going to post here anymore because he was tired of losing and 5 minutes later he was making posts, anonomously, of course. His posts aren't hard to see, like tonight. I brought up moab and he immediately posted, like before. He has no will power.

"Ann Coulter doesn't know sh-t. She knows only hate and divisiveness. And yes, you obviously do worship Coulter, and her ilk."

Keith Ulbermahn is no different. He's a hatemonger too!

The Great Write-Up on Coulter's Site Jeff Likes So Much:

...Democrats have leapt on reports of mold, rats and bureaucratic hurdles...

...further proof of the Democrats' failed domestic policies...

Thanks to the Democrats...

...because of civil service rules put into place by Democrats...

...It's especially adorable how Democrats and the media...

...The Democrats' response is... even more stringent rules... ... massive campaign donations to the Democrats.

... as the Democrats wanted.

...Now that the Democrats are once again ...

COPYRIGHT 2007 ANN COULTER

Yeah, that's pretty good. I wonder if she went into this Walter Reed Story with an Open Mind.

Rodan, can you handle mikey/woozy for me? I gotta go check my horses before bed. Just bring up bombs and woozy goes nuts. Or clinton, he loves him, too.

Oh, and he watches Ulbermahn twice every night! A true olbyloon.

Jeff: "...I gotta go check my horses before bed."

I'll leave that one alone Cowboy

The Great Write-Up on Coulter's Site Jeff Likes So Much:

...Democrats have leapt on reports of mold, rats and bureaucratic hurdles...

...further proof of the Democrats' failed domestic policies...

Thanks to the Democrats...

...because of civil service rules put into place by Democrats...

...It's especially adorable how Democrats and the media...

...The Democrats' response is... even more stringent rules... ... massive campaign donations to the Democrats.

... as the Democrats wanted.

...Now that the Democrats are once again ...

COPYRIGHT 2007 ANN COULTER

Yeah, that's pretty good. I wonder if she went into this Walter Reed Story with an Open Mind.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 12:59 AM
The truth is a killer..check the facts yourself.

I'm going too bed. I'm too high!

Jeff: "...I gotta go check my horses before bed."

I'll leave that one alone Cowboy

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 1:01 AM
I have 2 ready to foal, dumbass. A typical liberal comment.

That's what we're up against. You must defeatt radicals by being radical.
Just like we defeated Germany and Japan.
That was radical.

Posted by: Rodan at March 18, 2007 12:52 AM

Well maybe that's it then. That is where you are really mistaken. I know a few WWII vets, three of them being uncles of mine and one in particular I worked for. They were not Nazi's. They didn't become "them". They fought for their country out of the desire to rid the world of a tyrant and the mentality of a world ruler. I have said this before and I will say it again. If i play tiger woods in golf, I will lose. If I can get him to play me in tennis or pool he might lose. "They" would love to have us lower ourselves to them, and play there game so they have a chance. Can't you see that? It is not just a war to be fought with bombs and guns. Then the only sollution is the final sollution. I want to live, and I want other people to live too. A president with some inteligence between his ears would crush "there" 8th century mentality with ease. We don't have that now, and I won't apoligize to anyone including a vet for saying so.

>...A typical liberal comment.

Typical OlbyLoon!
And That’s The Memo!
Chirp! Chirp!
Moonbat! Moonbat!
Unhinged! Unhinged!
Chirp! Chirp!

Typical OlbyLoon!
And That’s The Memo!
Chirp! Chirp!
Moonbat! Moonbat!
Unhinged! Unhinged!
Chirp! Chirp!

Typical OlbyLoon!
And That’s The Memo!
Chirp! Chirp!
Moonbat! Moonbat!
Unhinged! Unhinged!
Chirp! Chirp!

Jeff: "...I gotta go check my horses before bed."

I'll leave that one alone Cowboy

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 1:01 AM
I have 2 ready to foal, dumbass. A typical liberal comment.
Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 1:03 AM

Jeff's feeling that inexplicable need to respond when someone makes a joke at his expense. Generally brought upon by insecurity, Jeff feels the need to tell the world, "No, I don't have sex with farm animals" by explaining exactly what he meant when he said he was planning on making a late night rondevous with the aforementioned farm animals before bedtime.

Like merely saying so would be any sort of proof for or against.

"I only bring up mikey/woozy because"

I read`all of those posts, and yours. You sounded ridiculous as usual, and "mikey/woozy never said he was "tired of losing". He also exposed you as a liar, and even posted proof. You turned around and helped him out by posting even more proof about your lie. Since then, you have accused at least 6 different posters of being "mikey". I think that started the same day you said J$ owed you an "apology" for daring to expose a mistake that you made. It's all kind of funny and entertaining to read. LOL - You keep proving to everyone here what I have already been pointing out about that very dense, dead thing between your ears. You make your side look totally stupid day in and day out.

I read`all of those posts, and yours. You sounded ridiculous as usual, and "mikey/woozy never said he was "tired of losing". He also exposed you as a liar, and even posted proof. You turned around and helped him out by posting even more proof about your lie. Since then, you have accused at least 6 different posters of being "mikey". I think that started the same day you said J$ owed you an "apology" for daring to expose a mistake that you made. It's all kind of funny and entertaining to read. LOL - You keep proving to everyone here what I have already been pointing out about that very dense, dead thing between your ears. You make your side look totally stupid day in and day out.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 1:12 AM
woozy, you're not sly.

you are very pathetic, mikey

"woozy, you're not sly"

LOL! I love it when you cut and paste a post that further exposes you as a being total idiot. That means it got posted twice, and I didn't even have to do it. Once again, that thing betwen your ears just isn't working.

G'day.

leave for good woozy, you're pathetic, as I said and you have proven.

Jeff the lying ignoramous again: "you should watch war stories this week, Ollie North"

No thanks liar, unlike you, I have my own war stories, and I'm not interested in anything a criminal like North has to say.

Posted by: Mike at March 16, 2007 2:19 AM

WPC: If you really are on the left, which I doubt, you're single handily making our side look pretty dumb.

Posted by: Mike at March 16, 2007 3:15 AM
No mikey/woozy, you did a pretty good job, too.

Mike, this could be a perfect example of that Red Herring, Tu Quoque:

--------------------------------
While were on this subject, what is it with you people always bringing up the "but Clinton did it too" defense every time the president does something unethical. That is ALWAYS a pathetic defense, even IF the two situations were 100% comparible!
Posted by: Mike at March 16, 2007 1:50 AM
---------------------------------

As I said, this COULD BE. It is not because the point made is pertinent to the constant assertions that GWB has done someting that is not only illegal but wildly unprecedented.

The Red Herring in this case is the allegations of illegialty and unprecedented actions.

Mike equals Woozy and Mutt. And all the, I can't find a term for it, whatever it is, it is too much for me.

I'm outta here.

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 16, 2007 2:32 AM

It is very clear to me that this site is nothing but a smear machine litersally obsessed with a controversial TV commentator to a degree that FAR exceeds the impact of the particular commentator in question...and it then GREATLY exagerates the claimed "slights, lies, and distortions" of that commentator. This is what happens when you examine every word and facial expression by someone with a magnifying glass while specifically looking for faults. Your going to find some every time, both real and percieved.

In short this site has no noble purpose, and has itself become something far worse than the "insult to journalism" it claims to be addressing.

I won't be back, so fire away at me if anyone want to, but I won't be around to read anything you might have to say in response to this post. My only real purpose in making this post is to address any speculation in advance that anyone might have as to why I don't post here anymore.

Adios everyone!

Posted by: Mike at March 16, 2007 10:01 AM
Remember this, mikey?

Mike must have really gotten to Jeff. He keeps cutting, pasting and talking to himself. I wonder if he dreams about Mike too when he's out there with his horses? LOL

Your anti-American rants, clinton apologist/denial posts aren't hard to see.

Posted by: jeff at March 16, 2007 11:24 AM

Anyone who supports the current administration is anti-American in the truest sense. You are a neandrathal and the country is about to pass you by. Thank God. History will laugh at the morons who believed in the decider. His entire administration has been a failure.

Posted by: iamabrainwashedidiotneoconwhocantthinkforthemselves at March 16, 2007 11:31 AM
And here was mikey/woozy not long after he said he was never coming back.

No thanks liar, unlike you, I have my own war stories, and I'm not interested in anything a criminal like North has to say.

Posted by: Mike at March 16, 2007 2:19 AM

What did you do? Spill hot oil on you dick in the mess hall or spill the mop bucket?

No thanks liar, unlike you, I have my own war stories, and I'm not interested in anything a criminal like North has to say.

Posted by: Mike at March 16, 2007 2:19 AM

What did you do? Spill hot oil on you dick in the mess hall or spill the mop bucket?

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 2:29 AM
No, he got lost on the way to boot camp, called mommy to pick him up,but, he didn't know where he was!

Jeff's up posting late tonight, because last night while in the heat of love-making, Jeff shouted out 'Mike!" The wife was none-too-pleased.

(Especially since he usually shouts Olby!)

Jeff's up posting late tonight, because last night while in the heat of love-making, Jeff shouted out 'Mike!" The wife was none-too-pleased.

(Especially since he usually shouts Olby!)

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 2:38 AM
Who's up late posting? Foot in mouth, again.....mikey

Jeff/Redwolf,
You are a spawn of the Klan!

Jeff/Redwolf,
You are a spawn of the Klan!

Posted by: Uncle Jim at March 18, 2007 2:42 AM
Hey, it's jesse jackson, himself!

Redwolf VS Mike

The Showdown...

Everyone on the Right that can't spell gets blamed for being Redwolf...

Everyone on the Left, or at least puts a coherent thought together gets blamed for being Mike...

Now, the truth can be told:

There are actually more illiterate hispanic rednecks on OW than just Redwolf...

And There are more Bush & Fox Hating progressives on OW than just Mike...

When all your enemies look the same...

Olbermann Watch...

Where the names change, but the aims stay the same...

Where the names change, but the aims stay the same...

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 2:45 AM
Wrong, only the cowards change their names.

Anyone who supports the current administration is anti-American in the truest sense. You are a neandrathal and the country is about to pass you by. Thank God. History will laugh at the morons who believed in the decider. His entire administration has been a failure.

Posted by: iamabrainwashedidiotneoconwhocantthinkforthemselves at March 16, 2007 11:31 AM
And here was mikey/woozy not long after he said he was never coming back.

Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 2:08 AM

Hey dippy, That was me, and I aint Mikey. You have a strange obsesion with the guy don't you. I hope he still reads stuff here. He must be laughing his as off at you.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 2:38 AM
Who's up late posting? Foot in mouth, again.....mikey
Posted by: at March 18, 2007 2:41 AM

It's only 11:45 PM on the left coast Einstein, and I'd rather have my foot in my mouth than what you have in yours.

....And I'm really not Mike numbnuts...As I recall Mike never really called anyone names. I'm that other guy that puts everyone down...

Everyone on the Left, or at least puts a coherent thought together gets blamed for being Mike...

Apologizing for clinton and kissing Ulbermahn's ass is "coherent?" Not.

March 18, 2007 2:45 AM/Redwolf,
Again deception is the tactic of the Klan. As an evil Kristian Kan Kreature that you are Redwolf, you fool no one. You pretend to be a Progressive, but your vile and hate exposes yourself. You are an empty soul Redwolf!

Where the names change, but the aims stay the same...

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 2:45 AM
Wrong, only the cowards change their names.
Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 2:48 AM

Jeff doesn't like it when he doesn't know who's posting, because he'd rather judge a post by who's writing it instead of what it says.

Signing 'jeff' to a bunch of incoherent gibberish is pretty BRAVE stuff.

I can see why you're so impressed with yourself...

Codas/Redwolf/Jeff.
Again I expose you pretending to be various posters. Your Klan mentality exposes you Redwolf. Your Klan tactics don't fool me!

I know exactly who's posting. The biggest liar/sore loser on OW.

Signing 'jeff' to a bunch of incoherent gibberish is pretty BRAVE stuff.

I can see why you're so impressed with yourself...

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 2:51 AM
mikey again, he can't leave.

You can keep calling me Mike if you want to, I could care less what you call me. But don't attribute other people's posts to me, because I've never typed a single post with Bubba's name in it. Nor have a typed a single post saying anything positive about Olbermann.

Listen, I'm the guy that gets on here and makes fun of you rubes for how dumb you are, okay? I'm not Mike! Mike would always try to engage you with debate, I'm the guy that stomps a mud puddle into your a$$.

Now, if you want to keep proving to everyone that your doctor probably needs to up your prescription a bit, great, but it probably won't go well for you because you're not very smart...

whatever dumbass, I think it's time for your next fix....

....And you take a really long time to respond...

"You can keep calling me Mike if you want to,"
You are Redwolf, you creature of the Klan. Your deception is fooling none one!

Three minutes for that?

A whole 3,000 at the anti-war protest, I guess the war is not as un-popular as the left keeps saying.

how many is none one?

....And you take a really long time to respond...

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 3:00 AM
I'm watching Fox News, too.

Who wants to ruin St. Patrick's Day with a crummy peace march?

Yeah, I think you're right jeff, I think people are finally coming around. It was unpopular at first, but I think the public is really starting to dig this war!

how many is none one?

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 3:02 AM
Who's typing giberish?

I'm watching Fox News, too.
Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 3:03 AM

OMG I almost dropped the crack pipe, I'm shocked!

how many is none one?

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 3:02 AM
Who's typing giberish?
Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 3:05 AM

EXACTLY!

Red Mike /Jeff,
Redwolf, you continue to decieve by posting as different people. However I keep exposing you. Kreature of the Klan!

OMG I almost dropped the crack pipe, I'm shocked!

Posted by: Red Mike at March 18, 2007 3:06 AM
Doesn't your mom hold it for you?

This site is getting more retarded all the time. I hate to say it but I miss cee. Come back you crazy bastard you.

OMG I almost dropped the crack pipe, I'm shocked!

Posted by: Red Mike at March 18, 2007 3:06 AM
Doesn't your mom hold it for you?
Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 3:08 AM

No Jeffy Weffy, Some of us don't still live with our mommies, like you.

>This site is getting more retarded all the time. I hate to say it but I miss cee. Come back you crazy bastard you.

Remember Ensign Expendable? Ahh, The Good Old Days....

Unfortunately, the smarter among us realize the idiocy of this endeavor...

But I like messin' with Jeff, Brandon, Feechie, and Cecelia...

They've gotta be some of the dumbest Rubes online. It's amazing they're able to double click.

Oh yeah...

And Redwolf/Rodan/Joker

'Night All

It's just now sinking in with jeff, I'm not Mike...

I admit that I post under different names for my own amusement but i gladly take credit for them all. cymbaline,Donora, iamhe...iambrainwashed... Some of these people I think have got some real identity issues or something.

Codas/Redwolf,
Stop the Kaln lies. You are Redwolf you liar!

you are a very confused human.

Codas/Redwolf,
You fraud. You are using the deception tactics of the Klan. To divive and decieve. The way of the Klan is in your inbred genes!

I like to use the name field for Humor, Irony, or to make a point, sometimes all three.

What I don't want is for someone who might potentially agree with me, to disagree before they've even read my post just because a certain name is on it.

It's called forced anti-pigeonholing.

Codas, we just gotta to ignor the CW noise. It gets louder every night, kinda like static on an AM radio, but messing with the Jeff's on this board is just too much fun to let a little CW to noise screw it up.

Humor, Irony, or to make a Point /Redwolf,
Again you are fooling no one trailer park loser. I know it's you Redwolf!

Coward Watch

Take your medication and go to bed.

Redwolf try as you may. You can't ignore me. I expose your racist Klan mentality to all ho see. Red wolf you are a pathetic trailer white trash loser!

Codas/Redwolf,
You must take you Crystal Meth. A drug that the spawn of the Klan is addictaed to. You are an evil vile creature who's racism has been exposed, Redwolf!

On second thought, i think i will drink a little wine and let the nut that is calling him/herself Coward Watch talk to itself. Maybe it will find its brain.

CW, exactly what is your motivation for coming in here and screwing up the converation every night. Everybody on here, left and right, knows your a f**king nut. We just don't know what it is you're trying to accomplish with your incredibly stupid and repeditive posts? It's nothing but noise.

I'm exposin you Redwolf.

How amusing to read the pea brains that stay up all night writing non-sense. All very Thorton Wilderesque in an illiterate sort of way. In my faint and feeble hopes to push you up a rung on the evolutionary ladder: You do all realize that no one on the Left takes Olbermann all that seriously, don't you? You do surely realize that we view him as entertainment, as a diversion? Perhaps not, because I have the sense you all believe that Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh and O'Reilly are serious journalists, recognized geniuses. Maybe that's the key difference. Maybe that is why you are all on your way to a long overdue extinction. The evolutionary process has worked. The fit are surviving, indeed thriving, while the mutants are thrashing and moaning. Largely on this website.

Actually there "Philby", I regularly read the liberal websites and I can tell you that they believe what Olbermann says to be the gospel truth. You're trying to distract from the main issue at hand, and that's Olbermann's extreme liberal bias which goes largely unchecked by the MSM probably because of their own extreme liberal bias. Glenn Beck did a fine rebuttal of Olbermann this morning on CNN's Reliable Sources. What Olbermann disguses as "news" is in fact sheer opinion, and yes, the lefty websites cite him as a NEWS source when he's nothing but another pundit. At least Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh and O'Reilly label themselves as such. Your hero Olbermann refuses to change the label of his show from "news" to what it should be properly labeled, "opinion".

philby, don't pat yourself on the back too hard, you might hurt your shoulder. What's it like to live in your world? You sound intelligent enough to not take Ulbermahn seriously,but, their are loons that take every word of his as gospel. Some even are dumb enough to admit they watch Olby "one sided" Kanobie twice every night.

This is too funny. Someone in Mesa, Az. sabotaged Tom Brokaw's show and for a few minutes a porno movie played on the screen during his show. Why couldn't this happen during Ulbermahn's comedy hour? That would be priceless.....

Some even are dumb enough to admit they watch Olby "one sided" Kanobie twice every night.

Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 12:46 PM

Yes, but we are not dumb enough to admit we watch the FOX PUKE FEST at all.

Some are dumb enough to believe that others sit around and wait for Keith to lead us and tell us what to think. You can take Keith off the air and I would think just the same as I do. Some watch him because he calls a crook a crook and it's about time someone did. Glenn Beck? I won't even respond to that guy. Another good example of liberal bias I guess he is huh. Coulter, hannity, Limbaugh, etc label themselves as truth tellers and they are 100 times worse than Olbermann on his worst day when it comes to stretching the truth in a partisan manner and if you don't admit that than your freaking retarded.

codas, your comment is laughable. Glenn Beck exposes libby's and so do the rest, that's why you hate them. They prove every day the hypocrisy of the demwit party. Can you remember the last time any one of the truth seekers you mention was caught in a bare faced lie?

Can you remember when Coulter or Limbaugh or Hannity weren't loud mouth jerks who laugh all the way to the bank and couldn't give a sh-t about our country? You take Coulter seriously? As I said, you can take Keith off the air and it won't change me one bit. Your truth seekers tell you what to think. I think for my own self. The Republican party is at this point nothing but trash for the next decade or so.

"P.S. Have you noticed Codas is back claiming to have..... What is he claiming? Well, whatever it is, he is living proof of that old adage that you can't make a silk purse out of a pig's ear.

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 17, 2007 7:29 PM

I think America already proved that in Iraq Janet.
Posted by: iamheasyouareheandyouaremeandwearealltogether at March 17, 2007 7:34 PM "
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Jeff, laughable is what we have come to expect from Codas and his aliases.

Just look at his response above. If anyone can make sense of that they just may be loonier than he is

Grammie

Janet, if Jeff is someone that makes sense to you than you are much more shallow than I thought.

codas, that's what I thought. I ask you to show one time when any one of the great commentators you hate have been caught in a lie, just one, and you resort to the "we're all jerks" card. Run w/your tail between your legs. I debate subjects all the time at places like "the puffington post", they don't scare me, some of their ideology does, though. Yet, you seem to be scared sh-tless of Glenn Beck.

I have been coming here since before the election and let me tell you, I have enjoyed the desperation from the Olbermannhaters and rightwing fanatics who post here. I feel the next few months will be even more enjoyable now that there are elected officials willing, ready and able to investigate the Bush administration fully. You better hold on to your hats and listen deeply for the talking points from your truth benders. I think by the end of summer resignations will be coming fast. I will remind you all then that some people knew what crooks the people leading us were all the time. And some followed the leader right into the pit. Have a nice trip.

Jeff, Glenn Beck is a funny guy. I laugh at him all the time. Scared? Thanks for another laugh.

Codas,
"The Republican party is at this point nothing but trash for the next decade or so."

That's why Rudy is leading year leader Hillary in the polls!

For the 10,000 time because the Olbyloons apparently have no idea that there is a difference between commentators (Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, etc.) and journalsts (Williams, Gibson, yes, even Katie Couric). Olbermann claims to be a fair and impartial journalist. Even the kraziest of his krazies usually will admit he's a commetator.

And for about the 9,999th time, the vast majority of KO watchers know full well the difference between commentary and journalism. We know full well that we are not tuning into a news broadcast per se.

"March 18, 2007 2:45 AM/Redwolf,
Again deception is the tactic of the Klan. As an evil Kristian Kan Kreature that you are Redwolf, you fool no one. You pretend to be a Progressive, but your vile and hate exposes yourself. You are an empty soul Redwolf!
Posted by: Coward Watch at March 18, 2007 2:50 AM "

Cowie must have been taking self improvement courses. What an alliteration!

Now if he will only take some logical reasoning and history classes he may get up to a middle school level.

Grammie

I'm pretty certain that Grammie has just earned inclusion into the "Red Wolf Club", along with Rico / Brandon / Codas / Jeff/ Rodan / Mike / Johnny , along with about 10 or so others.

As stated by the most active, but least informed member of this blog at 12:46: "some are even dumb enough to admit they watch Olby "one sided" Kanobie twice each night."

Jeff, since you got a lot of practice in mindless cutting and pasting last night, care to do one more quoting anyone who said that? I think I have read the comments on this blog pretty thouroughly recently, and I just don't recall anyone saying that. You already got your ass literally fried late last night, yet here you are again telling lies and spewing out stupid stuff again today.

I don't know whether to admire or have pity on poor little Jeff for his resiliance. As the saying goes; He "takes a lickin and keeps right on tickin", even if his accuracy is way off.

Jeff, that's about the hundreth falsehood you have perpetrated on this site. The problem is you simply parrot what you see, hear, and read...like the way you just parroted part of Johnny's write - up at 11:40.

Trouble is, I just watch the show very carefully for the second time, and as usual, the truth is something in between what Johnny said, and what Olbermann actually said or implied.

You CANNOT judge a show about someone you consider to be a political hack...by reading a write - up of it written by....you guessed it - another political hack.

Posted by: Mike at March 16, 2007 12:23 AM
Jeff, since you got a lot of practice in mindless cutting and pasting last night, care to do one more quoting anyone who said that? I think I have read the comments on this blog pretty thouroughly recently, and I just don't recall anyone saying that. You already got your ass literally fried late last night, yet here you are again telling lies and spewing out stupid stuff again today.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 4:02 PM
Here's your ass, prick. Next?

I don't know whether to admire or have pity on poor little Jeff for his resiliance. As the saying goes; He "takes a lickin and keeps right on tickin", even if his accuracy is way off.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 4:08 PM
Now, where was I "inaccurate?" Except for quoting AnnCoulter, when I meant Laura Ingram.

> the truth is something in between what Johnny said, and what Olbermann actually said

Yeah? Really? Olbermann actually said Fitzgerald made a statement. The transcript of Fitzgerald actually says he specifically did NOT say what Olbermann says he did.

I'd be curious to know how "the truth" is somewhere in between what Olbermann said (a lie) and what I said (a quote from the Fitzgerald transcript). Why don't you enlighten us. In your own words.

Codas,
"The Republican party is at this point nothing but trash for the next decade or so."

That's why Rudy is leading year leader Hillary in the polls!

Posted by: Rodan at March 18, 2007 3:06 PM
Wait until Dick Morris's documentary on "Billary" comes out, she's already buried herself half way, Dick will finish the job.

Jiohnny, that post was from the gone but not forgotten mike, I had to prove to anon that someone admitted to watching olby twice.

I had a feeling that's the comment you were referring to, and I was pretty certain that I could bait you into re-posting it.

I just reviewed all the comments carefully, and the trouble with your accusation is that 'Mike's' comment was only that he had watched the show twice on that particular night, only after reading some of J$'s accusations that he obiously had not remembered Olbermann saying in the first showing. He clearly did this for the express purpose of double checking J$'s comments. He NEVER said or even implied that he watched the show twice "each night". Mike called you a liar the other night for good reason - you're obviously ARE a liar. This is not even the same lie he proved you are a liar with, but it is yet another example of how you play fast and loose with the truth - "prick'.

"Jiohnny, that post was from the gone but not forgotten mike, I had to prove to anon that someone admitted to watching olby twice.

Now you are admitting to yet another lie, since yesterday and the day before you were accusing practically everybody left of center on this board of being "mikey/woozy". Keep on making yourself look like an idiot over and over again. It's very amuzing.

Wait until Dick Morris's documentary on "Billary" comes out, she's already buried herself half way, Dick will finish the job.

Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 5:09 PM

And what democrat will believe a word of what the crossdressing, whore mongering, FOX NOISE ASS LICKER HAS TO SAY. GET A LIFE!

Dick Morris has no more credibility than any other former employee who leaves his organization and then immediately starts dissing that organization. I say that even though I'm one of those who hopes Hillary does not turn out to be the nominee.

Jeff asks "now where was I "inaccurate", except for quoting Anncoulter, when I meant Laura Ingram".

For one thing out of many, when Mike proved you were a liar when you accused him twice of not knowing that Clinton had done a mass firing of US Attorneys. That particular post however, went beyond being an "inaccuracy", it was a bold faced lie. Also, in going back to your claim at 5:04 that you "meant Laura Ingram", that is yet another lie. You didn't "mean" Laura Ingram at all because you argued with J$ about it, forcing him to go back and find the so called "Anncoulter' post you were referring too. If you had simply "meant" Laura Ingram, you would have recognized and admitted your mistake immediately.

The Leftist Islamic alliance!

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GLOBAL VIEW

Islamosocialism
The European left makes common cause with the Muslim right.

BY BRET STEPHENS
Sunday, March 18, 2007 12:01 a.m.

"It is a profound truth," declared the British Socialist Party in a 1911 manifesto, "that Socialism is the natural enemy of religion." Not the least of the oddities in the subsequent history of progressive politics is that today it has become the principal vehicle in the West for Islamist goals and policies.
Caroline Lucas, a member of the Green Party faction in the European Parliament, is a longtime activist in anti-nuclear, animal-rights and environmentalist causes, and not someone likely to describe herself as an anti-feminist. Yet in June 2004, she joined British MPs Fiona Mactaggart of Labor and Sarah Teather of the Liberal Democrats for a press conference in the House of Commons organized by the Assembly for the Protection of Hijab. The Assembly, better known as Pro-Hijab, is a pan-European organization formed "to campaign nationally and internationally for the protection of every Muslim woman's right to wear the Hijab in accordance with her beliefs and for the protection of every woman's right to dress as modestly and as comfortably as she pleases."

Once upon a time, feminists and socialists alike would have translated that as "subservience to the patriarchy." Now they seem to have rediscovered their roots as civil libertarians, at least when it's politically expedient. Consider the issue of the Armenian genocide. In 1998, the French-speaking wing of Belgium's Socialist Party (PS) co-sponsored legislation to criminalize denial of the Ottoman Empire's murder of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians, much as Holocaust denial is also against the law.

Yet for the past several years, the same PS has been blocking the process of criminalization it helped initiate, presumably in the service of free speech. "Additional legal and historical research," says Belgian Deputy Prime Minister Laurette Onkelinx, remains to be done in ascertaining exactly what happened in Anatolia in 1915.

Progressives have also been remarkably mindful of civil liberties in matters of immigration. When the German state of Baden-Wüttemberg last year required applicants for citizenship to answer a series of questions regarding their personal views, the leader of the German Green Party, Renate Künast, denounced it as "immoral." "A country governed by law," she argued, "cannot ask questions about moral values." Among the questions: "Where do you stand on the statement that a wife should obey her husband and that he can hit her if she fails to do so?"

Curiously, however, Europe's progressives have been somewhat less tolerant on other issues concerning moral values and personal belief. Take "Islamophobia," which progressives often consider akin to racism and have, in some instances, sought to ban by legal means. In Britain last year, Tony Blair's government enacted the Racial and Religious Hatred Act, which criminalized "threatening" comments against religious persons or beliefs. Comedian Rowan Atkinson and author Salman Rushdie, among others, warned that the law undermined basic rights of speech. But for London Mayor Ken Livingstone it was not enough: He defined "Islamophobia" as "discrimination, intolerance or hostility towards Islam and Muslims," and regretted that criminal acts were not more broadly defined by the legislation.
Since coming to office nearly seven years ago, Mr. Livingstone has become a symbol of the marriage of the European left and the Islamist right. It's a marriage of mutual convenience and, at least on one side, actual belief. In the Netherlands, a recent study by the University of Amsterdam's Institute for Migration and Ethnic Studies found that 80% of immigrants--the overwhelming majority of whom are Muslims--voted for the Labor party in recent elections, while the two main center-right parties received a combined 4% of the immigrant vote. In neighboring Belgium, the left-wing sociologist Jan Hertogen credits immigrants for "[saving] democracy" by voting as a bloc against the secessionist and anti-immigrant Vlaams Belang party.

For Muslim voters in Europe, the attractions of the Socialists are several. Socialists have traditionally taken a more accommodating approach to immigrants and asylum-seekers than their conservative rivals. They have championed the welfare state and the benefits it offers poor newcomers. They have promoted a multiculturalist ethos, which in practice has meant respecting Muslim traditions even when they conflict with Western values. In foreign policy, Socialists have often been anti-American and, by extension, hostile to Israel. That hostility has only increased as Muslim candidates have joined the Socialists' electoral slates and as the Muslim vote has become ever more crucial to the Socialists' electoral margin.

More mysterious, however, at least as a matter of ideology, has been the dalliance of the progressive left with the (Islamic) political right. Self-styled progressives, after all, have spent the past four decades championing the very freedoms that Islam most opposes: sexual and reproductive freedoms, gay rights, freedom from religion, pornography and various forms of artistic transgression, pacifism and so on. For those who hold this form of politics dear, any long-term alliance with Islamic politics ultimately becomes an ideological, if not a political, suicide pact. One cannot, after all, champion the cause of universal liberation in alliance with a movement that at its core stands for submission.

This is not, of course, the first time such a thing has happened in the history of the progressive movement, or in European history. On the contrary, it is the recurring theme. In the early 20th century, the apostles of Fabianism--George Bernard Shaw among them--looked to the Soviet Union for inspiration; in the 1960s the model was Mao; in the late 1970s, the great French philosopher Michel Foucault went to Iran to write a paean to Khomeini's revolution. In nearly every case, the progressives were, by later admission, deceived, but not before they had performed their service as "useful idiots" to a totalitarian cause.
But the stakes today are different. At question for Europeans is not the prevailing view of a distant country. The question is the shaping of their own. Europe's liberal democrats were able, sometimes with outside help, to preserve their values in the face of an outside threat. Whether they can resist the temptations of Islamosocialism remains to be seen.
Mr. Stephens is a member of The Wall Street Journal's editorial board. His column appears in the Journal Tuesdays.

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"Mike" was sure right about one thing; "Jeff" keeps proving to everyone on this board he is a lair - over and over again. I't's all in the recent archives.

> You didn't "mean" Laura Ingram at all because you argued with J$ about it

Oh please. He didn't remember the name right. Even in Olbermann's case I wouldn't leap to calling that a "lie". I was just playing with it a bit. And her name is spelled Ingraham. OK?

Ulbermahn is the spokesman for The Leftists-Islamic axis!

Rodan, could you please avoid cutting and pasting opinion pieces from other sources on this blog? We could all load this thread down with this kind of crap if we chose to.

Ulbermahn is the spokesman for The Leftists-Islamic axis!

Posted by: Rodan at March 18, 2007 5:47 PM

YOU'RE THE SPOKESMAN FOR THE VILLAGE IDIOTS!

J$: "Oh please. He didn't remember the name right. Even in Olbermann's case I wouldn't leap to calling that a "lie"."

YES YOU WOULD! You've gone ballistic over and over again over far less than that. Unlike the moronic 'Jeff", you're actually a very smart person J$, but your bias is so strong, that it literally blinds you, and it precludes any pretense of objectivity.

The3 loons are showing their desperation.

See "Jeff", even J$ is calling you on spelling errors. She is your hero, not mine, so you ought to know how to spell her name.

"YOU'RE THE SPOKESMAN FOR THE VILLAGE IDIOTS!"

Did you read the article.
It explains the Left's support of Islam.

Hey Codas,

Did you know that Ann Coulter is a friend of Bill Maher? Not that I agree with her approach but I do find comments such as these amusing:

Fortunately for liberals, the Iraqis executed Saddam Hussein the exact same week that former President Ford died, so it didn't seem strange that Nancy Pelosi's flag was at half-staff.

JOHN MURTHA: CAVING IN TO ARABS SINCE 1980

Would I make such comments? No. But Bill Maher seems to appreciate her style.

I love how some people have to dig into the history books to explain "the left" to themselves in order to somehow justify their supporting what is considered todays "right". What they don't get is that I, like others here am not a member of a left, right, socialist, liberalist or anything group. I am an individual who can not buy the BS of what is passing for conservatism in THIS country, in THIS time. Maybe some of you need something like Republican talking points to help you sort through the mess. I don't need Olbermann, or the Democrats or anyones talking points to see through a fake religious morality that is put up by these folks that they hide behind while they commit all the sins they can get away with while they point an accusing finger to distract from themselves. I don't need to copy and paste someone elses lecture on the right/left. I have my own opinion. Todays right? Looks like a sheep, but it's just the same old wolf feeding off of insecurity and bigotry and greed.

anon, you are all out of short straws to grasp. I find it very strange how when you are proven wrong twice today, you claim to have "baited" me. LMAO! And you are defending mikey so defiantly? You still haven't proven me wrong yet and you won't. Take care, mikey. P.S. I admitted to my mistake regarding the ann coulter/laura ingraham mistake. Go back and read the thread "very carefully" as you previously stated you already did. Next time have your mom read a little slower for you.

Sharon,
Ann Coulter has a mental problem. I don't mean that to be funny. She may have loads of cash and a great big house, but her looks and her "place" are fleeting. She is in for a rough ride in her coming years, trust me. Bill Maher probably enjoyed screwing her.

Be careful what you wish to happen! I have it on good authority that Guiliani's ex-wives and estranged children have agreed to vote against him. That means he'd have to win at least 80% of the rest of the votes, and I don't see that happening. Then, if he were to select Gingrich as his running mate, we have another ex-wives' club. The only thing better I can think of is to have the Toe Sucker manage the campaign. A trifecta. Yes, Republicans, please: Rudy-Newt '08. Republican Family Values! A winning ticket --- for the Democrats.

"The3 loons are showing their desperation"

Funny, each and every time 'Jeff' gets pummeled, he comes back with some sort of "but your a dope" nothing comment like that. I invite anyone who is looking for a good laugh to please go back and review the comment section between about midnight and 3:30 AM last night. That is if J$ doesn't delete them in order to protect his ignorant but faithful little right wing parrot named "Jeff".

"Jeff" again - "you still haven't proven me wrong yet"

LOL. I just proved you lied about "mikey" twice. Wait a minute - you proved it YOURSELF! For some inexplicable reason, you actuallY cut and pasted a post that proved "mickey' knew full well that Bubba had fired USA's too, after you had posted the lie that he didn't - twice.

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby,
The opinion polls show Rudy beating Hillary.
I love the Left's delusion that people care about Rudy's personal life. Since when the Left cared about personal lives? Hypocrisy.
The GOP ticket will be Rudy and some southern Governor.
He will win 40 states.

codas,
Rudy is leading the polls against Hitlery.
When he becomes president people like Ulbermahn and George Soreass will be in jail or disappear.

China sells us millions of tons of cheap crap, then lends us the money to buy it.

There you have it Neocons and right wing parrots - one of the REAL threats to America!

"There you have it Neocons and right wing parrots - one of the REAL threats to America!"

China is big threat. The only good thing is I belive they will be the ones who cruch the Ilsamic radical. They show no mercy and don't have an annoying Media or Leftist organization screaming hi=uman rights and intimidating the governmnet.
If China invades a Muslims country, they will level it!

And the polls also show that the candidates with the highest negatives, i.e., the highest percentage of voters who say they would NOT vote for them under any circumstance to be Newt Gincrich (who has not announced he is running) and Clinton. You can't win elections when you're negatives are that high.

Now back to the feeble-minded Olbyloons who can't seem to grasp that Olbermann has an opinion-show which he insists on labeling a NEWS program. Yes, you think it's opinion. Yes, I think it's opinion. But it's still labeled as a news show by MSNBC and your cult-leader Olby insists he's an unbiased journalist. Here's an idea for you-why don't you write to him the next time he claims that in an interview and ask him to explain. You know better. I know better, why does he keep insisting he's not biased? We all KNOW he is.

I reallly don't understand the Ulbermahn worship. He looks like doof!

"I really don't understand the Ulbermahn worship. He looks like a doof!"

And you sound like a doof! That should make you two the perfect pair since you obviously are obsessed with him. If you could just figure out how to get him interested in you?

You are obssesed with Olbermann. you're here defedning him!

I reallly don't understand the Ulbermahn worship. He looks like doof!

Posted by: Rodan at March 18, 2007 6:28 PM

You don't understand sh-t about sh-t. If he looks like a "doof" or not is meaningless. Fox entie staff looks like they have a broken lightbulb up their tight ass. I hope Olbermann is hitting a nut in his young girlfriend right at this moment. He deserves it. As far as Guiliani is concerned, he has no chance whatsoever.

Codas,

Maybe Coulter is sick, but she is no better or worse than Bill Maher, who publicly states he is friends with her. If you are Donora, Pens all the way!

I am NOT "defedning" Olbermann!

If you are Donora, Pens all the way!

Posted by: Sharon at March 18, 2007 6:35 PM
I am, and you better believe I have been enjoying this season.

Codas,
"As far as Guiliani is concerned, he has no chance whatsoever."

Yeah, that's why he's leading in the polls and the Leftist press is attacking him. I sence the fear Left has of him.
They know he's not going to put up with Left's crap and will use the FBI/IRS and other means to remove the Leftist cancer!

Yeah, that's why he's leading in the polls and the Leftist press is attacking him. I sence the fear Left has of him.
They know he's not going to put up with Left's crap and will use the FBI/IRS and other means to remove the Leftist cancer!

Posted by: Rodan at March 18, 2007 6:37 PM
He is pro-choice and for gay rights. What do you think the "right" will think of him?
Later, the Pens play Ottawa tonight Sharon. I am going over to my moms to watch them. Yes. Donora, Hub of the mid-mon valley.

Rodan, the "anti-Stalinist" on Guiliani; "They know is's not going to put up with the Left's crap and will use the FBI/IRS and other means to remove the Leftist cancer".

You mean Gulliani will become a Stalinist king!

Codas,
"He is pro-choice and for gay rights. What do you think the "right" will think of him? "

They know he is and don't care beacuse he can win and Leftists like you keep saying the Republicans won't vote for him.
Instaed he goes up in the polls.
Have you thought the GOP will vote for him to piss the Left off?

Don't get me wrong, Mr. Rodan. I want you to nominate Mr. Guiliani. I can't imagine a Republican candidate I'd prefer. I'm sure you are absolutely correct. No one, absolutely no one has the least concern about Mr. Guiliani's train wreck if a personal life, nor about his legitimate business dealings with Mr. Chavez or Mr. Kerik. All that matters is his stand on the issues, as in every election. American elections are always 100% about the issues of the day.

I think mikey has a split personality, he refers to himself as "he" in his own posts. Taking the term "olbyloon" to a new level!

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby ,
Why is Rudy leading your leader Hillary in the polls?

Jeff,
When will Mr. You are Redwolf start posting?

Bill Maher is friends with O'Reilly, what's the big deal. Can't people who have different political views be friends?

China sells us millions of tons of cheap crap, then lends us the money to buy it.

There you have it Neocons and right wing parrots - one of the REAL threats to America!

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 6:22 PM
This person is clueless.

"Jeff" again - "you still haven't proven me wrong yet"

LOL. I just proved you lied about "mikey" twice. Wait a minute - you proved it YOURSELF! For some inexplicable reason, you actuallY cut and pasted a post that proved "mickey' knew full well that Bubba had fired USA's too, after you had posted the lie that he didn't - twice.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 6:17 PM
Tard, if you were such a "careful reader" mikey refered to Bush's firing of 8 attny's as "mass" and billy boys firing of 123 didn't qualify as mass. A minor detail you avoided.

Olbermann' s dick is limp.
That's why Katy is sneaking around creeping!

"Jeff" again, avoiding and diverting: "A minor detail you avoided".

Your mindless taunt you made against Mike, "Jeff", was that he "did not even know about the Clinton firings". As have been proven several times, you lied! Yet your response is to try to divert the discussion to another part of "Mike's" post. I'm pretty pretty you are distorting that quote as well. However, I'm not here to fuel a new debate the USA's firing, that is NOT the discussion at hand. The discussion at hand is about "Jeff", the liar.

"Bill Maher is friends with O'Reilly, whats the big deal? Can't people who have different political views be friends?"

Absolutely "Jeff", but why can't YOU follow that same philosophy yourself? You are on record here calling people "traitors", as well as many other derogatory put downs simply because they expressed a political philosophies you dis-appove of.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h3G-lMZxjo

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby ,
Why is Rudy leading your leader Hillary in the polls?

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I think that should be abundantly clear to all, Mr. Rodan. Obviously, Mr. Guiliani is morally and intellectually superior and is on the correct side of all the issues. I eagerly await the election. Indeed, why even have an election? With such a wondrous candidate, perhaps we should just have a coronation. Who do you suggest for VIce-Regent? Mother Theresa? She doesn't begin to measure up to Mr. Guiliani's moral standards, but she may be the best we can do.

IF HRC is the best you can do, I'd say you'd better used to the idea of losing yet another presidential election.

"perhaps we should just have a coronation"

Rodan would like that! He has already expressed his belief that Guliani is going to use both the FBI and The IRS to crush the left. This probably explain why he isn't that conscerned about our present president who is doing his best to become a king.

Thank God For Bill O’Reilly! I was just another Secular Progressive tricked by the Liberal Media. I never knew I had a choice. I thought I had to be Liberal, and Secular, and Progressive. Thanks to Bill O’Reilly I now know I don’t have to live like that anymore! I can be an Arrogant Bigoted Blow Hard, Never Admit I’m Wrong, and Never Have to Say I’m Sorry. I Must Admit, it was never much fun being Thoughtful, Contemplative, Empathetic…I am so glad I don’t have to put up with all the SP BS any longer. Thanks Bill for Opening My Eyes to how the other half lives!

"I Must Admit, it was never much fun being Thoughtful, Contemplative, Empathetic…I am so glad I don’t have to put up with all the SP BS any longer."

Posted by: Thank God For Bill O’Reilly at March 18, 2007 8:42 PM

Yes, thank goodness!

Otherwise your thoughtful, contemplative, empathetic, self would be doomed to the progressive calling of trolling opposition blogboards.

Absolutely "Jeff", but why can't YOU follow that same philosophy yourself? You are on record here calling people "traitors", as well as many other derogatory put downs simply because they expressed a political philosophies you dis-appove of.

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 7:43 PM
I call it as I see it, all liberals aren't traitors. Anyone who doesn't support our military, defends the enemy, etc. is a traitor and many posters here do that on a regular basis. Just so you know, supporting our military and supporting the war are two different things. If you read all of the posts and not just mine, you will see the name calling on my part is triggered by name calling from the loons, i.e. mikey/woozy, O'liar, burger king and a couple "anons", just to name a few. Joker and I had a 3 day debate on immigration and in the end, we agreed that we disagree in some areas and we have civill discussions, now. Good enough?

IF HRC is the best you can do, I'd say you'd better used to the idea of losing yet another presidential election.

Posted by: Brandon at March 18, 2007 8:30 PM

Even a toothless, pigmy dwarf from Borneo could beat any repug at this point.

It is very clear to me that this site is nothing but a smear machine litersally obsessed with a controversial TV commentator to a degree that FAR exceeds the impact of the particular commentator in question...and it then GREATLY exagerates the claimed "slights, lies, and distortions" of that commentator. This is what happens when you examine every word and facial expression by someone with a magnifying glass while specifically looking for faults. Your going to find some every time, both real and percieved.

In short this site has no noble purpose, and has itself become something far worse than the "insult to journalism" it claims to be addressing.

I won't be back, so fire away at me if anyone want to, but I won't be around to read anything you might have to say in response to this post. My only real purpose in making this post is to address any speculation in advance that anyone might have as to why I don't post here anymore.

Adios everyone!

Posted by: Mike at March 16, 2007 10:01 AM
Remember this, mikey?

He's still here, he just can't leave.

More of Jeff's inane bloviation regarding traitors:
1)- "I call it as I see it"; It's not your place to determine who is patriotic, and who is not. A president can be a traitor just as easily as any citizen can.
2)- "defends the enemy, etc."; The laughable definitions of "defending the enemy" I have read on this board are of third grade thought level.
3) - If someone ever called me a "traitor" to my face because we disagree about military action, they might be picking up their teeth in response. Yet you don't seem to have had any problem doing that from the anonimity of a keyboard.
4) - You admit to having never served yourself, or even thought seriously about it, yet you have no problem disparaging others who have if they don't think like you think they should.
No, not good enough!

"He's still here, he just can't leave."

I wonder who this fool is accusing of being "mikey" now? He done made a pure fool of himself doing that the last three days, but he's still at it!

Hey Jeff, did you name one of your daddy's horses "Mikey"?

Hey, why not? How many times have the Olbyloons accused the clear-thinkers of all being the same person? About time someone turned the table on you Loons.

Brandon answered: "Hey why not?"

See Jeff, even Brandon thinks you should name your daddy's favorite horse "mikey" too.

The clear thinkers on this site are the ones that come here to dispute the idea that we are "loons" because we apreciate having someone in the mainstream media who is not a suck up to the rightwing propaganda machine. Who defend the idea of a country who debates wether or not to use the military instead of kneeling in submission to a leader who is not capable of having any ideas but using the military. Who believes in seperation of church and state. And is sick and tired being made to feel un-American because they recognize that we are not the policemen of the world. Olbermann attracks the bully mentality bullsh-t artists to this site because it is therauputic for them to vent here. They think they are smacking down the liberals, all the while there neocon dream crumbles around them. Who will pick up the pieces? It won't be a neocon, it will be someone like Wesley Clark or Al Gore.

I wonder who this fool is accusing of being "mikey" now? He done made a pure fool of himself doing that the last three days, but he's still at it!

Posted by: at March 18, 2007 9:42 PM
This is you mikey/woozy, who's the fool? It's so obvious, it's kinda sad.

Wesley Clark? lmao! Now, there is a bonafide traitor! Al Gore? Global Warming profiteer. Oh yea, he invented the internet, hell save the world!

Codas,
Rudy is leading all Dems in the Polls.
The people want oder.
Rudy will crush our domestic and foreign enemies.
That's why the Leftist-Idlamic axis is scared of him!

Jeff,
Wesley Clark is on the Iranian payroll. He led the NATO attack against the Christian Serbs on behalf of the Al-QAeda backed KLA!
He's pro-Iran!

I will repeat. Rudy has no chance of being president. None. Zilch. It won't happen. McCain has a chance. Please no Hillary. Obama should wait 8 more years. Gore and Clark in 2008.

Rodan, mikey and codas probably have clark posters hanging over their bed. Yes, I know all about that prick Clark, he is a piece o' work. He makes me sick when he is on tv with his uniform on acting like he has all the answers. He won't go on Fox anymore, at least I haven't seen him on in a while, thank God. He is a total disgrace to the uniform. Him and Murtha, putrid.

"Wesley Clark? imao. Now there's a bonafide traitor!"

There goes our bonafide hero Jeff, callin another decorated veteran a "traitor". Jeff's such a brave young feller! I mean, just cause he ain't never served his country and is afraid to himself, Jeff knows there's a plenty of them actual brave folks out there willing to put their lives on the line for Jeff's scared little ass. Later on though, when it's safe, he'll call them a traitor too if they don't think like he thinks they should think, but only as long as he's nice, snug, anonymous & safe behind his trusty keyboard.

codas,
Rudy is a proven leader. Americans want a stronman. Rudy will win and win big!
That's why the Left is nervous about him!

Clark has more credibility than anyone on Fox, or for that fact, the current administration. Clark actually won a war he was in charge of. One thing you should worry about though. Gore is in fact your worst nightmare. Which is why he is good for the country and the rest of the world. Your people, that you support, have destroyed our military and our budget and made us a weaker country. Clear thinking people who are not seduced by idiocy know that to be true.

I knew I could get mikey's attn. He loves the traitor clark. Decorated hero, yea, him and kerry "got rice blew up his ass runnin'.

Jeff, you have a paper ass.

"I knew I could get mikey's attn."

Gosh darn, Now I"M mikey too!

Hey codas, are you mikey too?

Coward Watch?

My name is Jeff. How do you do?

mikey, don't forget, Hannity's America then war stories with the decorated war hero Ollie North, it's about Winston Churchill, you might learn something.

Just as long as it ain't sue!

There really is not much here when you think about it that defends the "rightwing" with any substance. This is an Olby bashing site, and they don't have much to bash. I come here figuring I could get some feedback and debate someone on the worst administration in our history. I get jeff and rodan. cecelia and janet can at least make me mad or frustrate me. cee makes me chuckle and sad. I feel like Cheney must feel when they let those ducks fly just for him. too freaking easy.

Hot damn mikey, you better watch that brave young Hannitty war hero feller with that other war hero turned criminal. They'll help ya get your mind right!

I knew I could get mikey's attn. He loves the traitor clark. Decorated hero, yea, him and kerry "got rice blew up his ass runnin'.

Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 11:37 PM

How does a pussy like Jeff/RedWolf/Joker get the balls to call decorated vets traitors?

Imagine a pussy like this feeling brave while posting this sh-t on a fake blog. Only the the trash of the trailer park does this sh-t.

RedWolf/Jeff you're a shining star on the right here on this page. A poster child of cowardice!

Coward Watch?

Posted by: Rodan at March 18, 2007 11:42 PM

Brandon?

mikey=pathetic,pathetic,pathetic, like his hero's, clark, clinton and olby. They go hand in hand. I thought coward watch was a coward, mikey takes the cake, for sure.

You folks don't know who your talking to, what your talking about, or what the hells going on about a fricking thing. Sad and pathetic for sure.

Jeff,
Coward watch has joined us!
He's going bye the name Who's Bad?

Damn Mike, what in the world did you SAY to that fool? He just can't get you off his mind!

codas, fyi, Ulbermahn is not msm, he is far left media. Let Freedom Ring! Hannity is on, gotta go. niter nite mikey.

Codas/Redwolf,
You're fooling no one with that act of pretending to be a liberal. Your Klan fueled hatred shows itself Codas/Redwolf!

Codas, I'm so dissapointed in you now that you've been outed. You just can't never tell about folks these days.

It is very clear to me that this site is nothing but a smear machine litersally obsessed with a controversial TV commentator to a degree that FAR exceeds the impact of the particular commentator in question...and it then GREATLY exagerates the claimed "slights, lies, and distortions" of that commentator. This is what happens when you examine every word and facial expression by someone with a magnifying glass while specifically looking for faults. Your going to find some every time, both real and percieved.

In short this site has no noble purpose, and has itself become something far worse than the "insult to journalism" it claims to be addressing.

I won't be back, so fire away at me if anyone want to, but I won't be around to read anything you might have to say in response to this post. My only real purpose in making this post is to address any speculation in advance that anyone might have as to why I don't post here anymore.

Adios everyone!

This is what mikey said the other day,yet, he is still here, that's what cracks me up. He got hammered every day and broke down, I guess. Now he posts w/no name cause he's a coward/ashamed.

You folks don't know who your talking to, what your talking about, or what the hells going on about a fricking thing. Sad and pathetic for sure.

Posted by: codas at March 18, 2007 11:58 PM
What's keeping you here, then?

"gotta go, niter nite"

Look Jeffs back already! Is this what people mean when they say I gonna "catch a wink"?

Jeff/Codas/Redwolf,
A true Klan spawn you are! Pretending to be different posters because I exposed your racist KKK mind. A low form of humanity you are Redwolf!

mikey, don't forget, Hannity's America then war stories with the decorated war hero Ollie North, it's about Winston Churchill, you might learn something.

Posted by: jeff at March 18, 2007 11:43 PM

Ollie North the guy who did dealt with the ayatollah Khomeini? The guy who promised weapons to the ayatollah if he would just promise not to let the 50 hostages go before Carter lost the election over it? The guy who used cocaine money to buy those weapons? The guy who took the 5th when brought up on these charges before congress?

Anyone who would looks to Fix News for information is clearly loose trousers slack jaw trailer trash!

ReWolf (coward in hiding as Jeff), why don't you tell us about Fix News heroes while we tell you about our vets - today's heroes - coming home to collapsed mortgages on their homes while contending with declining financial help for vets from Bush/Republicans. Or not coming home at all because they died in a civil war we let loose on them.

You're an uneducated pussy coward ass who talks of Sean Hannity and Ollie North as heros but we don't hear you saying jack sh-t about the troops who live all around us in anonymity with missing limbs and wired together skulls from IUD blasts.

You say nothing of the mothers stuck with slashed domestic budgets and young children because the pentagon sent their husbands back a second and third time.

RedWolf/Jeff you are the lowest of vermin in our society. Like David Duke getting a face lift you change your name and play a pretend game just like Sean Hannity - a coward who never served his nation and never honors veterans of war by acknowledging the realities of their everyday lives. Lives in lower middle income brackets.

Instead you bring up multi millionaire whores like Ollie North. Scum like Sean Hannity who has made a career by putting out misinformation about the realities patriotism.

You think your a patriot RedWolf? A coward like you who talks tough but never signs up to serve? You know why you are here on this page 24/7? Because it is the only life you can have.

The rest of us out there want nothing to do with low lifes like you! You are a text book loser out on the internet desperately trying to be significant.

Your significance is clear - like a snail's trail!

Sins of the father!

Jeff/Codas/Redwolf,
A true Klan spawn you are! Pretending to be different posters because I exposed your racist KKK mind. A low form of humanity you are Redwolf!

Posted by: Who's Bad? at March 19, 2007 12:08 AM

More like: Posted by RedWolf/Jeff

Classic RedWolf showing he is at his wits end from frustration that he always feels like a loser here.

Posting under another poster's moniker as cover for the fact that he's got nuthin!

RedWolf/Jeff draws a blank when it comes to trading barbs with the big boys. Dumb 8th grade drop out cigarette bumming trailer trash, never knows what to do when he someone more aggressive than him confronts him.

CLASSIC COWARD!

RedWolf/Jeff is a pussy and coward,
You give us on the Left a bad name. You accuse everyone of being Redwolf and make no thoughtful post.
We want nothing to do with you!
Stop posting!

Coward Watch,
Can you explain your obssesion with Redwolf?
It borders on madness!
You are truely insane!

Spanking RedWolf/Jeff ,
Your just a drunk Irish meth user. You Mom was raped by her dad, who' your dad too.
Your Greatgrandmother was raped by her English overlord for not growing potatos fast enough.
You are a spawn of rape victims!

So what you are saying is that someone out there wants the character "RedWolf" to disappear?

The same RedWolf who lived here and posted racist jokes regularly? You to pretend RedWolf/Jeff are two different people?

Because that is what you are saying. The guy using the name "Jeff" posts the exact same crap - you know the crap about denying he is a racist because he is a minority. Both RedWolf and Jeff made the identical claims. Claims that he is a Latino because he is Italian and they are the true Latins.

This kind crap and much more came from both RedWolf and Jeff. Both said they hate Muslims because of what they did to his ancestors a thousand years ago.

Is this some kind of forum called "let's humor the racist trailer trash"?

Bran done ,
I believe you are Redwolf. You are trying to disrupt this board. that's why none of us liberals accept you Cowardwatch!

Bran done ,
Do you think Jeff, Redwolf are the only ones who don't like Muslims?
Get out of your trailer enter the real world!

Spanking RedWolf/Jeff ,
Your just a drunk Irish meth user. You Mom was raped by her dad, who' your dad too.
Your Greatgrandmother was raped by her English overlord for not growing potatos fast enough.
You are a spawn of rape victims!

Posted by: The Joker at March 19, 2007 12:30 AM

Now Brandon, or anyone else who has doubts about "Jeff" look at the above post. You can pull key words from RedWolf's post here and search the archives to see how many times "Jeff and Joker" also posted the same barbs about me being Irish.

Always reverting to attacking what he thinks is another person's nationality-race-religion.

Classic sh-t that has always been limited to one person out there:RedWolf.

You know it, and you know I know you know it!

So go on now with your game of "let's pretend"

this site is ruined.

Instead you bring up multi millionaire whores like Ollie North. Scum like Sean Hannity who has made a career by putting out misinformation about the realities patriotism.

Mikey is very upset, now.....

Coward Watch,
I'm just speaking some historical truths. Your ancestors were raped! That's a fact. In fact you are a spawn of your English master!
As for the Italain latin thing, I said I'm Italo-Argentine and Cuban. I'm Hispanic and Italian. Those are the 2 subranches of the Latin race. Yes, the Italinas were the original Latins. That is a historical fact.
But what do I expect from someone who's decended of men who wore skirts while their women were raped.
If you think I'm Redwolf you are fooled!
You are obssesed with him.
Are you gay?

Codas: "this site is ruined"

How can a site that was never good for anything in the first place be "ruined"?

Hi everyone. Who's Olbermann is a good man?

Coward Watch,
I'm just speaking some historical truths. Your ancestors were raped! That's a fact. In fact you are a spawn of your English master!
As for the Italain latin thing, I said I'm Italo-Argentine and Cuban. I'm Hispanic and Italian. Those are the 2 subranches of the Latin race. Yes, the Italinas were the original Latins. That is a historical fact.
But what do I expect from someone who's decended of men who wore skirts while their women were raped.
If you think I'm Redwolf you are fooled!
You are obssesed with him.
Are you gay?

Posted by: The Joker at March 19, 2007 12:56 AM

So then is this one more of your admissions? When you say:

" I said I'm Italo-Argentine and Cuban. I'm Hispanic and Italian."

You are acknowledging that RedWolf said this same things months ago in a fit of denial that he was racist scum.

"How can be racist Coward Watch? I am Latino"

Then you wrote: "I'm Italo-Argentine and Cuban. I'm Hispanic and Italian."

Now the last thing. Anytime Jeff is posting, Joker is posting. The two are always together.

Changing names and using multiple names is all you got!

So let's pretend.

Codas: "this site is ruined"

How can a site that was never good for anything in the first place be "ruined"?

Posted by: at March 19, 2007 1:01 AM

Let's pretend it is a page only in face saving. Let's pretend that face has no eyes, no ears, no mind, and a mouth that repeats Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh.

Hi everyone. Who's Olbermann is a good man?

Posted by: Merc at March 19, 2007 1:05 AM

That depends? Do you want to pretend he is? Or do you want to prentend he is not?

Coward Watch,
Let me guess in drunken Barbarian mind redwolf is the only Latin that posts here.
Bye the way Jeff isn't Latin he's Native America.
If you knew anything we had a discussion over immmigration. That's how I found out he's a Native.
Your an idiot cowqrdwtch. Your redwolf obssesion is paranioa at it worst.
Be more original.
Hey I insult your ethicity because you callm me a trailer park trash. I'm not anglo so that term doesn't apply to me.
I don't have a problem with Irish people.
Rodan is Irish and French. So I'm not racist.
I don't like idiots like you that support Iran and Al-Qaeda!

What's the big deal about Olbermann. I have heard much about him until recently. So I Google ans I found this site.
Is he an important man?
Why do people hate him?

Joker, don't waste your time responding to this pond scum known as coward watch. He comes on every night about the same time. I really think kk has something to do with it.

Jeff,
Your right. He a loser. In his sick mind everyone here is Redwolf. He's even accused Codas of being Redwolf.
He has issues!
A true spawn of the Kultutre of the Klowns!

coward watch is a disturbed liberal that hates this site for obvious reasons, it exposes liberal lies.

"I Must Admit, it was never much fun being Thoughtful, Contemplative, Empathetic…I am so glad I don’t have to put up with all the SP BS any longer."

Posted by: Thank God For Bill O’Reilly at March 18, 2007 8:42 PM

Yes, thank goodness!

Otherwise your thoughtful, contemplative, empathetic, self would be doomed to the progressive calling of trolling opposition blogboards.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 18, 2007 9:18 PM

Wow, just dangle a little cheese with O'Reilly's face on it and Cecelia comes out of the hole.

How predictable and pathetic. Just mention O'Reilly and it's like having a 'Make Cecelia Type Something Stupid' Button.

Must....Respond....Now...

That's like Jeff making sure we all know he's not REALLY having sex with his horses...

mikey must be back from his nap

how bout that hannity, he hammered clinton, mcdougal and the rest of those crooks.

how bout that hannity, he hammered clinton, mcdougal and the rest of those crooks.

Posted by: jeff at March 19, 2007 2:21 AM

Fits well with people who only know the world according to hannity

Joker, don't waste your time responding to this pond scum known as coward watch. He comes on every night about the same time. I really think kk has something to do with it.

Posted by: jeff at March 19, 2007 1:29 AM

Laughing out loud.

I wonder at what point your face flushes in embarrassment as you post a response to your own post as if there is actually another person in this world who thinks you are a respectable person worthy of being met halfway in civil conversation.

There is truely one joke on this page and it is you.

You are a legend in your own mind.

Rodan is Irish and French. So I'm not racist.
I don't like idiots like you that support Iran and Al-Qaeda!

Posted by: The Joker at March 19, 2007 1:20 AM

One more example of a RedWolfism. He can never avoid the notation of national origin as a way of identifying people. This is one of the many common traits that RedWolf/Jeff/Joker posts with. And of course he always denies being a racist. He does this while stereotyping people by national origin. Now how f---ing stupid does a person have to be do this?

totally lame

The Iraq situation is the result of George's testosterone level at 2000 and an IQ of 6.

IMUS THIS MORING: "HAS ANYONE AND I MEAN ANYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY EVER SCREWED IT UP ANYMORE THAN GEORGE BUSH? THE ANSWER IS NO."

Yes, thank goodness!

Otherwise your thoughtful, contemplative, empathetic, self would be doomed to the progressive calling of trolling opposition blogboards.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 18, 2007 9:18 PM

Wow, just dangle a little cheese with O'Reilly's face on it and Cecelia comes out of the hole.

How predictable and pathetic. Just mention O'Reilly and it's like having a 'Make Cecelia Type Something Stupid' Button.

Must....Respond....Now...

Posted by: at March 19, 2007 2:02 AM

As though there's much that could be more predictable and cliched as anon's ham-fisted insult in responce to an ironic and humorous remark.

As though there's much that could be more predictable and cliched as anon's ham-fisted insult in responce to an ironic and humorous remark.

Posted by: Cecelia at March 19, 2007 8:37 AM
Cecelia, that was little mikey/woozy, he's still mad because you whipped him time and time again. He's resorted to posting anonomously even after he said he was never coming back. Just say something about his hero's bj clinton or coward clark. Oh, express how you would like to win the war, that makes him mad, too. I'm not sure if you noticed,but, the other day he was calling himself "cecil" to mock you. bushkills pa/burger king is lurking, too. I won't point out little mikey's posts anymore, it's not even fun, it's so obvious. Hopefully he made an appointment to get his prozac refilled.

Jeff,
Don't forget Coward Watch aka. Paranoid Fool.
He thinks we are all Redwolf!

Jeff still is infected with "mikey on the brain". If Mike is looking, I'll bet he's getting one hell of a kick out of reading this rube's obsessive musings.

Jeff,

I think Mike was perfectly sincere when he said he was leaving for good and that he has. I don't care one way or the other.

I don't care if bushkills is lurking. I don't care if Codas has more incarnations than Shirley Maclaine. I think that Coward Watch aka Kulture of the Klown is like a comic wielding a rubber chicken or plastic doo-doo. Cliched, but occasionally funny despite himself.

As for being mocked by someone using the screen name "Cecil. Well, he/she tried their best. I've seen attempts that were actually clever, by much smarter people, but anon is who is here now. What can one do...

I wanna tell ya it's a darned good thing we have real patriotic folks like Rudy Ramarez and Jeff tellin us who the traitors are. Here we got us a president working his fool butt off protecting us from evil and all those traitors can do is whine and complain. If we don't stop those bad Muslims over there there gonna jump in the sea and swim right over here to get us and Bush knows this. All those bad guys from Iraq flying those planes into buildings and the liberals are forgettin about that only 5 years later.

wanna tell ya it's a darned good thing we have real patriotic folks like Rudy Ramarez and Jeff tellin us who the traitors are. Here we got us a president working his fool butt off protecting us from evil and all those traitors can do is whine and complain. If we don't stop those bad Muslims over there there gonna jump in the sea and swim right over here to get us and Bush knows this. All those bad guys from Iraq flying those planes into buildings and the liberals are forgettin about that only 5 years later.

Posted by: Jimbo at March 19, 2007 11:49 AM
The "mindset" of a liberal in denial......

Cecelia, I couldn't care less if mikey/woozy posts here either. The point I was making is he said he was done, we were all stupid, Bob and Johnny included, the blog was a waste of time, bla bla bla, 10 minutes later he was making the same stupid responses to my posts. Yesterday and the day before, an "anon" poster was on here defending every post mikey/woozy/mutt ever made parroting the same crap he always did refering to himself as "he" said this and "he" said that, it was oh so obvious.

GEORGE THE CAPED TERRORIST AVENGER

ON A SUNDAY MORNING NEAR CRAWFORD, TX, NOT PAYING ANY ATTENTION TO ALL THE FOX NEWS WARNINGS ABOUT THERE BEING A TERRIORIST SLEEPER CELL UNDER EVERY ROCK IN TEXAS, TED, HIS WIFE ALICE AND THEIR TWO CHILDREN SET OUT ON A PICNIC. ONE OF CHILDREN PICKED UP A ROCK AND OUT POPPED THIS TALL HANDSOME ARAB PROCLAIMING, "YOU HAVE AWAKENED MY SLEEPER CELL. I COME TO RAPE ALL YOUR MEN, ROB ALL YOUR WOMEN AND EAT YOUR CHILDREN!" ALICE LOOKING UP AT THIS HANDSOME ARAB SAYS "YOU MEAN YOU HAVE COME TO ROB THE MEN AND RAPE THE WOMEN." HUSBAND TED JUMPS IN "SHUT UP!, LET HIM TERRORIZE US THE WAY HE WANTS." THE CHILDREN SCREEM "WHAT'S THAT IN THE SKY DADDY?" DADDY REPLIES "IT'S GEORGE THE CAPED TERRORIST AVENGER." GEORGE LANDS. "QUICK, THE CHILDREN WILL HAVE TO HOLD ON TO MY EAR HAIR, WIFE ON THE NOSE HAIR AND TED WILL HAVE TO RIDE UP MY BUTT. BEING A LOYAL REPUBLICAN, HE'S BEEN THERE BEFORE, HERE'S A FEW Bush Supporters." GEORGE FLIES OFF AND ABOUT 1000 FEET THE WIFE FALLS, 1500 FEET THE CHILDREN FALL, GEORGE LOOKING DOWN SAYS "STAY IN THERE TED, WE'RE HEADED TO MY SECRET HIDEAWAY, BROKE BACK MOUNTAIN TO MEET DICK."

Somewhere in Texas, a village is missing it's idiot.

Jeff, the way I read it, that anon poster wasn't defending mikey/woozy/mutt at all. He was just calling you on your lies and backing it up with facts taken from other posts. Can't you even tell the difference between someone defending someone and being attacked yourself?

Olbermann's dick is limp.
Katy sleeps with others when the Cialis pill runs out!

"Olbermann's dick is limp" - Oh no, you think he can get it back up before tonight's show?

"Olbermanns dick is limp":

http://www.olbermannDickWatch.com

Katy Turic gives other head.
While Olby blows Soreass!

Olbermann( peace be upon him) is a man sent by Allah to destroy the Great Satan from within. He's a hero to my brothers in the Jihad! To those who follow him, you are also my brothers in the Jihad.
We are achieveing great and glorious victories over the evil Imperialists armies.
You are close to bringing down the glorious regime.
Allah bless my Leftist allies in this struggle!

http://www.obermannDickWatch.com;

The fastest GROWING Keith Olbermann site on the Internets.

It just makes me so mad when Islamists like Jamal praise liberals like that. Can'rt they see there just defending our enemys who wants to kill us????? How can we wake these traitors up. Saddam attacked us on 911 and now he's been hung for it and all those libverals can do is whine, whine, whine.

Jumbo,
We are your allies. We are on the verge of a historic victory in Iraq. Whenever we feel on the verge of defeat we get encouraged by your media and Olbberamnn that we have support withing the great Satan.
We see the great coverage Brother Ahmadinejad recieves in the media and realize not all Americans are eveil.
The Left is righteous and just!
Convert to Ilsam and we can create Allah's paradise on Earth!

Jeff, the way I read it, that anon poster wasn't defending mikey/woozy/mutt at all. He was just calling you on your lies and backing it up with facts taken from other posts. Can't you even tell the difference between someone defending someone and being attacked yourself?

Posted by: at March 19, 2007 12:40 PM
No, "anon" just repeated everything "mikey" ever said. Beep, beep, there's the mailman with your welfare check! Run along......

IMUS THIS MORING: "HAS ANYONE AND I MEAN ANYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY EVER SCREWED IT UP ANYMORE THAN GEORGE BUSH? THE ANSWER IS NO."

Imus is a person who clearly has drain bamage from using too many drugs,notably LSD.Use him as a source only at great risk to your crediblity.

Jamal, YOU ARE NOT MY ALLIES!!!!! Pesident Bush and Jesus with God's help is trying so hard to defend us against the geat hord of Islamests who will come when we leave Iraq. We will beat these murdursous Muslems if only we can shut up trhiose liberals who just don;t know whats good for everybody.

"Beep beep, there's the mailman with your welfare check! run along....."

Shows what a dummy you are. I only get my welfare check at the first of the month. Can't you even read a calendar - Jeff?

As I recall, Imus asked that question to every caller this morning, and the most positive answer he got was "That's not my judgment to make". The second most positive answer was "no, I think Warren G Harding might have been worse". It went downhill from there.

Imus, the "liberal". LOL!

Today's Bush/Cheney headline: "bush sees ire effect if we leave Iraq".

Lets take a look at some previous Bush headlines.
1) - We don't want to wait for "the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud."
2) - "Saddam has weapons of mass destruction."
3) - "Mission accomplished."
4) - "Democracy will flower."
5) - "the insurgency is in it's last throes."
6) - "We'll be greeted as liberators".
7) - "Iraqi oil will fund the war"
8) - "etc."
9) - "etc."
10)- "etc."

A question to anyone still listening to Bush or Cheney; WHY?

"A question to anyone still listening to Bush or Cheney; WHY?"

Exactly my friend. May Allah bless your wisdom and knowledge. The great armies of the Jiahd are killing the weak American troops by the dozens. You will be driven out of Iraq and Afghanistan in humilating fashion. We are on the march! The Caliphate is close to being restablished!
Thanks to the Left who've aided us and given us hope! We will then destroy the Zionists. Then Europe will be ours.
We then will conquer America with the help of our Leftist allies who will neuter the public through Political corectness. We will be greeted as liberators by the Press!
The flag of Islam aill fly over the White House!
In'shallah!

Yes Jamal: Bush and Cheney have reacted exactly as you and your growing have wanted them to do so far. You WANTED them to invade Iraq, and to your surprise and delight, they actually did it!. You WANTED them to resort to torture, and damned if they didn't actually go and do it! You WANTED them to fire the Iraqi army, giving you a whole army of potential recruits, and they actually did it! Now you are hoping they'll keep us bogged down in Iraq, gradually weakening and demoralizing us in the process, and it looks like the're gonna go and do that for you to!

Doesn't it make it so much easier for you when your enemy does exactly what you want them to do?

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby,
Thank you for helping the Jihad. Together the Left and us Islamists will destroy this eveil Imperialists regime!

Mrs. R Adrian Philby on the Republicans; "Don't they realize such language simply makes them appear coarse, crass, and stupid?"

Apparently Mrs. Philby, they don't.

Plame is being positioned as Hilary-lite.
Did you see her hair? At least $500 to get that looking so good.

"Little Feechie on Plame: "At last $500 to get it looking so good."

Apparently Little Feechie is a hairdresser. How else would he know that? And we all know what they say about hairdresser's!

I heard Charles give the news on Imus this morning. He was referring to a story I posted last night at 10:55, part of which read:

Only 27% think there is a civil war in Iraq, compared with 61% who do not, according to the survey carried out last month.

That part of the story was completely ignored. He spinned it (or whoever provides the news for him) that most people believe life is better than under Saddam but a large percentage (I forget the number) believe they will be killed. If you read the story, you'll see the spin.

"only 27% think there is a civil war in Iraq": And the Imus people are definitely not "liberal".

Pick up a copy of USA today Sharon. They have a 2 page article on a new Iraqi poll comparing what Iraqi's believed in November 2005, and now. I don't think you'll like those results at all.

Apparently Little Feechie is a hairdresser. How else would he know that? And we all know what they say about hairdresser's!

Posted by: at March 19, 2007 3:28 PM

Here folks, is the way we KNEW anon dealt with stereotypes and thinking for his/her self...

It's not whether or not I like the poll you cited. I referenced a different poll that Charles was citing in which he ignored the fact that most Iraqis don't believe the country is enmeshed in civil war. He also spun the poll to say something it did not. I know which poll he was citing because of the headline name.

Additionally, I never called anyone liberal. Pat Buchanan appeared on Imus before the war and stated what a terrible mistake it would be to invade Iraq. He is not a liberal either.

I know Sharon. The only answer these days regarding cable TV news is to watch a little bit of Fox, and they'll tell you how great everything is going, or nothing at all - and then quickly switch over to MSNBC, and they'll tell you how poorly everything is going. The actual truth, as usual, is somewhere in between the two.

Cecelia,

A double standard that I have encountered concerns homosexuality. It's not okay to be against gay marriage but it's perfectly okay to ridicule homosexuals. (gay hairdressers). One time a person on a cite called me (and my children) horrible names for being against gay marriage, but he made fun of Rick Santorum's son who looked "gay." Sounds like Olby logic to me.

I read the poll online. I know what it said, not what someone stated it said.

"Additionally, I never called anyone a liberal."

I respect that Sharon, and you are right. It's NOT a liberal or conservative issue at all. However, so many players on this site seem to want to define support for this war in terms of liberal/conservative, that it's become almost pointless to argue that point with them. I've even heard a few of them call Buchanon a liberal.

Yes, Sharon, I well remember the Bushkills, Colberts, Sir Loins who routinely use gay slurs against political opponents and complimented ....THEMSELVES... and their liberal open-mindedness in the next post.

Anon's words are similar in that anon JUST proclaimed him/herself as being above thinking in stereotypes...unlike conservatives... in another thread... :D

It's good to see some on the right develope some actual sensitivity these days.

And there you have it. Proof that the Gay issue is not really a left/right issue either. Mostly a religious one.

It's good to see some on the right develope some actual sensitivity these days.

Posted by: at March 19, 2007 5:49 PM

No stereotypes here...

"I've even heard a few of them call Buchanon a liberal.
Posted by: at March 19, 2007 5:45 PM"

And I've frequently heard Buchannan held up as an authority that should be accepted by conservatives because he is a famous conservative.

Grammie

And there you have it. Proof that the Gay issue is not really a left/right issue either. Mostly a religious one.

Posted by: at March 19, 2007 5:52 PM

Well, tell THAT to the hairdressers now, disingenuous putz...

Cecelia, I have to stand up for Chicken Blogger. His contradictory statements aren't really contradictions. It all depends on what half of his brain he is using at the time.

That way he can argue out of both sides of his mouth and always declare the high ground for himself.

Grammie

"disingenuous putz"

There there Cecelia. Calm down. And I thought YOU were above all the penus references on this site, or was that not your understanding of the meaning of "Putz"? As for hairdressers, I don't know any.

That way he can argue out of both sides of his mouth and always declare the high ground for himself.

Grammie

Posted by: Janet Hawkins at March 19, 2007 5:59 PM

You're enerous to a fault, Grammie. The only "high ground" anon has is an insanity plea.

Well, that too.

Grammie

"his contradictory statements really aren't contradictions"

????????

disingenuous putz"

There there Cecelia. Calm down. And I thought YOU were above all the penus references on this site, or was that not your understanding of the meaning of "Putz"? As for hairdressers, I don't know any.

Posted by: at March 19, 2007 6:01 PM

Oh, one doesn't have to be angry to call you a disingenuous putz, just logical and perspective.

"the only "high ground" anon has is an insanity plea"

back to courtroom drama heh? No wonder you like Fox News so much.

""his contradictory statements really aren't contradictions"

????????
Posted by: at March 19, 2007 6:03 PM "

Ask Chicken Blogger to explain it.

Grammie

I don't know but this sounds a lot like the old Mike and Grammie arguments!

I just heard Richard Engel on Hardball. I do respect that he has been reporting from a war zone for 4 years, but nonetheless, here is the spin he is providing to Matthews. It looks like the surge may be working in Baghdad regarding the sectarian violence but the number of attacks on U.S. and large populations of Iraqis is the same, if nor worse in areas outside of Baghdad. Because Sadr told his people to lay low and only the crazies are left of his brigade, the U.S. is trimming the rebels of the group for Sadr and when the surge is done, Sadr's army will be back and even stronger without all those dissidents who wouldn't listen to Sadr. The U.S. and Iraq Army are doing all the work while the rest of the Iraqis sit back and wait.

So now that the surge appears to be working, Matthews now has his talking points.

his contradictory statements really aren't contradictions"

????????

Posted by: at March 19, 2007 6:03 PM

Well, Grammie's generous. But you and I know you were using a homophobic slur in order to insult an opponent.

The "religious issue" and "I'm glad someone on the right is showing sensitivity" after using a gay slur isn't a matter of which side of your brain is talking. It's a matter of your baleful heart.

"the only "high ground" anon has is an insanity plea"

back to courtroom drama heh? No wonder you like Fox News so much.

Posted by: at March 19, 2007 6:05 PM

Proably have watched the channel less times the fingers on one hand but then we're all aware now how much you love stereotypes and how little you think for yourself. Chirp...Chrip...

I am convinced of this concerning people like Anon: while in junior high on into high school, they were the ones to brutalize/intimidate anyone who they thought may be gay. Then when they got older and realized the kind of people who condemn the practice of homosexuality (while respecting the person) were people they abhor. So they had to adopt a new attitude. The effects of their long standing hatred of homosexuals seeps through now and then.

'High Ground' is sort of like Zen.

If you have to 'declare it' you aint 'got it.'

Why is Cecelia posting? Did someone mention O'Reilly?

Since you two have made the decision to try to take me to task over a simple "hairdresser" joke, did either of you come on here and blast Ann Coulter when she actually used the word "faggot"? I didn't think so either.

You're the ones who used the h word, not I. In fact, this post is the first time I've mentioned it. As for political correctness, I admit I'm not that much into that, even if you do think I'm a liberal.

"the kind of people who condemn the prrcatice of homosexuality (while respecting the person)"

Now THAT is hypocritical!

What color make-up do you think he's going to have on tonight?