"maybe he had to have the battery replaced in his ankle bracelet"..LOL

Yea, yea Johnny....time to crawl back under your rock for the night.

Day 6 of the latest Iran hostage crisis and Olby says nothing. Keith Anally bows to the Ayatollah. Amazing.

"The book that bears Olbermann's name sunk to #16,764 at amazon.com"
WOOOOOOOOO! so much for the 10,000 mark, he smashed right through that.
"the 10 pm repeat tanked, coming in a humiliating fifth place--actually losing to Donny Deutsch on CNBC"
nice....time for Plan R to get people to watch that show, MSNBC. O'Reilly just ignores his attacks (and it looks like it works) so maybe attack Beck some more, and make fully half the show about American 'Idle'. advertisers don't like 5th place.

Ha! KO comes on twice in prime time and even when you combine the numbers O'Reilly's ratings still beat him. :)

Any libs care to explain why your hero would spike the Iran Hostage story? Please, entertain us.

Olby, even Larry King is devoting his show to the Iran crisis. Can I let you in on something - even your far-left-wing Comm-symp libnut viewers (like yourself) know about the hostage crisis. This might come as a shock, but the rest of MSM knows about it too. He must have replaced Ashleigh Banfield's horn-rimmed specs with rose-colored glasses before he read the blue blogs over the past week.

I think Olby is terrified of having to interview a former hostage who will recount the real horror stories at the hands of the radical terrorists. That would not jibe with his delusional libnut view that George Bush, Dick Cheney and Karl Rove are responsble for the acts of a rogue state.

Olby: Hostage crisis? What Hostage Crisis?

Gotta Love that Wake Up Wal-Mart crowd. Bin Laden is gona send a bomb thats gona blow up a Wal-Mart. Don't know which one, but one of them. Ain't gona be a Cosco, K-Mart, Target. Does a Sam's Club count?

It's is good to see that the majority of America doesn't fall for the Union Buls**t.

What Iran story indeed. It's total bullsh-t farce floated by fearco inc., sorry, the RNC to push the "war". The UK could provide the GPS data that tracks all soldiers at all times and prove in the public realm that Iran was in the wrong. All olberman does it speak truth to dilusional power.

Totaldouche, your name suits you well.

Does Ulbermahn realize he could just replay any one of his shows every night and his olbyloons/viewers would never notice? Every night he harps the same bs over and over. His show is like an AC/DC song, heard one, heard 'em all, for the most part. Ever played a record that layed in the sun too long? It would sound just like Meltdown.

O'Reilly Got Owned by His Guests Tonight.

That was Awesome!

Ulbermahn is a stooge of the Iranian regime. Robert Cox can tell you all about Sanjay. His IP address was traced back to the Iranian Information Ministry.
Iran is 80% of his viewers

Hey everyone, ignore Rodan's earlier posts. He's been drinking since 11 thisd morning. He had Hennesy!
I had to pick him up from a bar because he couldn't drive.
I wonder when the Redwolf paranoids will begin to attack me?

Beaten by Nacy Disgrace
Beaten by info-mercials
Gainging on O'Reilly, I don't think so.
Olbermann you are a fat failure who strikes out with women who take money for sex. I guess a paid pro can't even swallow her pride long enought to swallow the one inch thriller, the three pump chump.

Factor,
Why does Ulbermahn cover up for the Iranian regime? Do you think he has an audience over there?

I think Olbermann would be # 1 in Teran. He would even beat "Blow up the Jew" and " How to tie plastic explosives to your kids"

Keith Olberman is a paid Iranian agent. He's an avid supporter of Ahmadinejad and even was at a dinner for the Iranian Pres. when he was in NY. Rumors are that Olbermann is part Persian. hence his love of his mother country.

I think Olbermann would be # 1 in Teran.

He probably is with he regime.
The people hate the regime over there so they probabaly dislike Ulbermahn since he's an ally of the regime.

I think Olbermann would be # 1 in Teran. He would even beat "Blow up the Jew" and " How to tie plastic explosives to your kids"

Factor, that was priceless, really. Cox is one of the most witty and intellgent writers on the web, but that was outstanding.

Will there be a midnight repeat of Olby as well coming soon?

Factor,
The Olbyloons are going to come after you for your Teheran Keith comments. Right now they're organizing and preparing their assault!
Olbyloon rule #1 Never attack Keith
Olbyloon rule#2 Never attack Islamic radicals.
You have violated tem. Be prepared!

Imagine Ulbermahn in WW2. He'd deny the holocaust was occuring and would blame FDR for Pearl Harbor!

O'Reilly had a great interview with some left wing loser from M*A*S*H. O'Reilly exposed that the left is so guttless that they won't support any action against Iran unless they actually drop a Nuke on one of our City's. Some might not even care then (unless it were Hollyweird). Rosie would blame it on Bush and the free masons. Google Gulf of Token. The left are cowards and disgraces.

Factor,
Iran has replaced Cuba as the Left's favorite Totalitarian regime. It's their new paradise! Ahmadinejad is the new Castro!
The Left loves him. That's why Iran is being bold because they know the Left is supporting them.

Speaking of fat dykes, Rosie thinks that the British hostage situation is a fake. That is the spokeswhateveriteis for the loony left.

O'Reilly Got Owned by His Guests Tonight.

That was Awesome!

Posted by: at March 28, 2007 11:22 PM
Which guest was this? Funny, I didn't see that.

I guess it was his guest who admitted he trusted Iran over Britian and the United States. Was it when he said we should try and negotiate with a country that has our allies hostage and denies the holocaust.

Factor and Royalking,
Have you guys notice that the Iran is now the Left's favorite regime. They've replaced Cuba!
Ironic the Left supports a Rightwing Theocratic state!

Iran has replaced Cuba as the Left's favorite Totalitarian regime. It's their new paradise! Ahmadinejad is the new Castro!
The Left loves him. That's why Iran is being bold because they know the Left is supporting them.

Posted by: The Joker at March 29, 2007 12:11 AM
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What kind of ignorant bull sh-t is this? What "left"? Who the hell is the "left"?

What's not to love about Iran? You think you have a justification for hating an entire nation for what it's government does? Should the whole world hate you and I for what Cheney and Bush do?

The people of Iran do not hate you the way you are so quick to hate them. You and your talk about who the "left" loves is pretty f---ing stupid.

All you know is what you fear. After all, hate is nothing more than an expression of fear. Now granted some fears are legitimate. Yours are not. Iran is not out to get you or America. They have the planets only super power turning the screws on them daily. They are the ones who live in fear.

All your pussy ass coward talk about who the left loves is just code for what you hate. Hate as in scared to death they are out to get you.

f---ing dumb ass pussy coward that sucks up all the Fix News "be afraid, be very afraid" bull sh-t that is made to order for pussy as cowards like you to suck up.

You ever know any Iranian people? You ever talk to them or live next door to them? All your talk is just the same as it was when your father did it about black people.

You are an a--hole plain and simple!

You and Royalhick and Rodan and what ever other low life name you want to add, posting all this bullsh-t about who's an apologist for Islamic terrorists.

The only thing anyone in this nation has to apologize for is the klan mentality of life scum like you!

You suck you ignorant coward

Factor and Royalking,
Have you guys notice that the Iran is now the Left's favorite regime. They've replaced Cuba!
Ironic the Left supports a Rightwing Theocratic state!

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 12:56 AM
Let's not forget Puko Chavez, they love him, too, he's such a nice fellow....

speaking of the klan, I'm late for my meeting, gotta go............

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waMBt6EnsT8

coward prick, did you hear about the bus driver in Iran that got his tongue cut out for speaking out against his gov't the other day? What's not to love, you ask? Such nice people...

Coward prick, did you hear about the bus driver in Iran that got his tongue cut out for speaking out against his gov't the other day? What's not to love, you ask? Such nice people...

Posted by: royalking at March 29, 2007 1:24 AM
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God dam are you ever stupid. I say it's the government of Iran you should hate not the entire nation of Iranian people and you have a come back that you foolishly think makes my argument invalid with a comment about how cruel the government is to it's people. WHICH BACKS UP EXACTLY WHAT I AM SAYING TO YOU!

You are so f---ing ignorant. As is always the case with the spawn of white trash vermin like you.

The insanity of the Iranian government is a direct reflection of the desperation they feel about their future with the planets only super power recking havoc on it's borders while budding up with all the traditional enemies of Iran - The oil rich states of the Persian Gulf.

You are a f---ed up uneducated ignorant white trash low life who has no clue about the world beyond his front door.

You are trash plain and simple - pussy coward trash!

Coward prick, did you hear about the bus driver in Iran that got his tongue cut out for speaking out against his gov't the other day? What's not to love, you ask? Such nice people...

Posted by: royalking at March 29, 2007 1:24 AM --------------------------------------------------------------------

Prick? You bet I am prick. I can't stand garbage like you who give this nation a bad name.

You are so stupid your response above backs up my argument that it is the government who does the evil sh-t in Iran. You make no sense at all with this. The people of Iran are the victims of it's government, just like the Iraqi people were with Saddam.

Iran's government is the way it is simply because it lives in fear of American aggression in the region.

You are totally ignorant to think this bus driver story does anything except to prove me right.

God are you f---ing stupid

White trash dumb ass!

I love Iran

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waMBt6EnsT8

""Is it legal?" Um, Mr Olbermann, sir, why don't you take out your copy of the constitution (unless you left it some hotel room) and look at that amendment with the 5 next to it. That just might be a clue as to its legality."

Fine, it's legal. But it isn't ETHICAL, it VIOLATES THE PROMISE AG Gonzales made that ALL of his staffers would FULLY COOPERATE, and FBI Director Mueller said he has NEVER heard of a Justice Department official taking the fifth for ANY REASON.

Johnny Dollar wrote:
"There you have it: a disbarred lawyer telling real lawyers that they should go after a lawyer for asserting a constitutional right. You just can't get that kind of "legal analysis" anywhere except on OlbyPlanet. Great thanks."

Kriminal Dean's konvoluted logic is a Kountdown Klassic. Very funny Mister $

Coward Watch is the most miserable unhinged pathetic excuse for an american i've seen on this board. Such anger. Anyone who doesn't see it the way he does is SPAWN OF SATAN. He can't structure simple sentences, yet he is always claiming to be smarter than you. HA! Cracks me up.

Oh intelligent one!

Please enlighten us with your vast "intelligence"!

"The people of Iran are the victims of it's government, just like the Iraqi people were with Saddam."

Mr. "Pussy Ass" obsession, could you please show us one post, JUST ONE, in which any of the posters suggest that they "hate" iranian people?

The FACT is and IT REMAINS, that even though 99% of the WORLD'S TV networks, news agencies, newspapers, etc. had the Iranian hostage crisis as the main headline news over the past three days, this Olberwhatever is simply, plainly, not GETTING IT.

You're obviously lost in the Olbtwilight Zone

"Keith Anally." "Iran is 80% of his viewers." "the Olbtwilight Zone"

You people are pathetic.. this is a sorry bunch of cut-downs. Fox viewers, I'm sure.

Why do you Leftists get touchy about Iran?
They hate you guys!
Ulbermahn is very popular over there.

"Iran's government is the way it is simply because it lives in fear of American aggression in the region. You are totally ignorant to think this bus driver story does anything except to prove me right."

Irans government is the way it is because they are a bunch of Koran toting terrorists. America did not cause Iran to be a nation of crazy Islamists.

It's funny how the Left complains about Theo-Cons or the Religious Right. But they support a Religious Right regime in Iran!
Makes no sense.
Hence I agree with Joker's point.
Iran is the new Cuba for the Left!

"Iran's government is the way it is simply because it lives in fear of American aggression in the region"

Does this "fear" of American agression cause them to call for the destruction of Israel and the extermination of all Jews? Does this fear cause them to ally their mindset with David Duke and other Nazi sympathizers who deny the holocaust? Did their fear of American agression cause them to enslave their female population, close schools that taught anything other than the Koran, and force their people to live by a 7th century code of law that requires torture and capital punishment for what we, in the West, call lifestyle choices?

I will laugh if Islam is able to subjugate a Western nation. Watching the leftists be rounded up and beheaded for smoking pot, adultery, homosexuality, and atheism/apostacy will be the greatest experience of schadenfreude of my life.

WATERGATE! NIXON!! WATERGATE!! NIXON! WATERGATE! NIXON!! WATERGATE!! NIXON! WATERGATE! NIXON!! WATERGATE!! NIXON! WATERGATE! NIXON!! WATERGATE!! NIXON! WATERGATE! NIXON!! WATERGATE!! NIXON! WATERGATE! NIXON!! WATERGATE!! NIXON!

Thank you. And good night.

Irans government is the way it is because they are a bunch of Koran toting terrorists. America did not cause Iran to be a nation of crazy Islamists.

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 10:09 AM
Yes,but, the loony left would like us to think so, everything is our fault, don't you know that?

I will laugh if Islam is able to subjugate a Western nation. Watching the leftists be rounded up and beheaded for smoking pot, adultery, homosexuality, and atheism/apostacy will be the greatest experience of schadenfreude of my life.

Posted by: Mags at March 29, 2007 10:40 AM

This is a wonderful example of the demented and totally self serving attitude of the "players" on this site. What a bunch a sh-t.

"I will laugh if Islam is able to subjugate a Western nation. "

They alreday have.
The've conquered Lebanon, Bosnia and Kossovo.
France, UK, Belgium, Canada and Holland are on their way.

Mags:

Demented, perhaps, off on your facts, to be sure. I think that politically speaking the Conservatives and the Republicans seem to have the homosexual, adultery markerts pretty well saturated, what with Mary Cheney, Lynn, too, perhaps, Foley, Fundamentalist Pastors, Gingrich, of course, the infamous Ruday, just to name a few. In fact, I don't know if it is even possible to be a Republican anymore without a divorce portfolio. Is it?

And, as a Leftist who doesn't spoke pot, who has been faithful to marriage vows and is a decided heterosexual, will my Episcopal faith be held against me? Please advise. I am not given to fear and paranoia, so I do not know the answer.

Mags,
Rightwingers smoke Pot too!

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby,
Since when did Leftists care about people's persoanl lives?

The've conquered Lebanon, Bosnia and Kossovo.
France, UK, Belgium, Canada and Holland are on their way.
---
A very good morning, Mr. Rodan. I know this will be painful for you to hear, but I leave tomorrow for a Holy Week and Easter Week vacation in the UK, followed by a six (6) week teaching stint. So, I will seldom be able to post during the next couple of months. I do so hope you will keep up with your grammar.

More to the point: Should I fear that the subjugation of the UK will happen while I am there, or will I be safe until mid-summer? Do you recommend I take a head scarve, or do you think I require a full burqua? Will I still be able to buy those delicious little pork pies at the little shop outside Victoria Station, or will those have been outlawed?

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby,
Since when did Leftists care about people's persoanl lives?

---

How can you ask that knowing how deeply I care for you and Mr. Royalpain?

More to the point: I wish the Conservatives cared a bit less about personal lives. The Republican Big Brother thing is getting to be intrusive and exhaustive.

philby, why is it that it was ok to be gay until Mary Cheney said she was gay? Unbelievable hypocrisy.

philby, you forgot bj clinton, or, is what he did ok? How about ole Gavy Newsom, another far leftist cheater, should I go on?

How about that other leftist that was blowin his boyfriend while his wife was in the hospital having a baby? New Jersey I think.

New Jersey gay democrat is James McGreevy, remember him holyer than though philby?

THIS IS TOO MUCH!!

DAMN YOU LBURLS!!

WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF WAR FOR OUR OWN CIVILIZATION!!
OUR WAY OF LIFE!!

MOM, APPLE PIE AND SUVs!!!

DEAR LEADER MR. BUSH SHOULD TAKE SWIFT AND FIRM ACTIONS AGAINST IRAN AND THE ISLAMO-FASCISTS LBRUL ENABLERS!!

I'M SURE AT THIS VERY MOMENT COURAGEOUS PRES. BUSH IS PERSONALLY IN CHARGE OF A PACK OF SEALS TO RESCUE OUR ABDUCTED SOLDIERS!

AND UPON HIS GLORIOUS RETURN, HE SHOULD SEIZE THE AL-JAZEERA's OPERATIONS OF THE LBRUL MEDIA IN THE USA!!!

DAMN YOU C.N.N.!! DAMN YOU C.B.S.!! DAMN YOU G.E.!! DAMN YOU N.B.C.!!

AFTER THE NETWORKS HAVE BEEN STAFFED WITH FOX NEW's PERSONNEL, WE SHALL HAVE 24/7 - 365 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING AND TEACHINGS FROM GRAND MASTER BILLDO!!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! LBURLS!!

YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US!!!

DAMN YOU ANTI-AMERICAN SECULARIST PROGRESSIVES!!!!

I hope your plane ticket to the socialist uk is one way, it's a perfect place for you. Maybe they'll seat one of those fun loving terrorist's right next to you and another one behind you.

I hope your plane ticket to the socialist uk is one way, it's a perfect place for you. Maybe they'll seat one of those fun loving terrorist's right next to you and another one behind you.

pat, you are obviously against us. It couldn't be any clearer. Thanks for that. Hey, you forgot to call us Bush Supporters

moronKING:

Rhetorical question:
Just because I choose to mock the right wing rants I'm against who?

-Moronic paranoid right wing extremists?

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby,
If Islam is so tolerant go their Mosques with a translator and see what they're saying.
You are naive as you are elitist.
I don't understand why Leftists defend Islamo-Fascists to the end.
They even have Holocaust denying conferences and the Left still supports the regime.
It's useless discussing thei with you.

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby,
That's the stupidest name ever.
You're a phoney! I bet you a guy!

Hi everyone! I'm king of the Olberloons, back for my monthly check-in. Sorry to say I haven't been able to check in for the past several months because...well...just because it's kind of stupid. Now and again I get caught somewhere with internet access and nothing else, and my mind races back to the blank, dry desert that is Olbermanwatch.

Really I come back for two reasons. The first is to see if this thing really still exists. I'm always amazed on that score. And this time, not only does it exist, but it has been lovingly redesigned sans nazi imagery! I think that is a good PR move. You don't want to be too obvious. I know there was some sort of backstory that was supposed to excuse pasting Hitlers all over--something about someone else doing it and that being so wrong, so to point that out OW had to do it too. But I don't think that sold too well -- especially in light of the fact that the majority of the free dialogues were geremiads expressing glowing support of indefinite detention and torture, bluring of church and state, and constructing permanent majorities by monkeying around with the justice system.

The second reason I check in is simply to see if all the same people are still wasting time with this infinitely recursive little cluster of bits and bytes. Unfortunately, I can't remember the names anymore. There used to be a girl who would ask if you wanted "canapes" while flippantly bolstering this or that bit of Bush administration incompentence or mendacity. And some retired flyover Christiany granny-housewifey type who claimed she had the idea to invade Iraq before the Neocons. Only she didn't realize it until she heard it from valiant Bush. But then she remembered what a great idea it was. And that everyone who didn't understand what a great idea it was would have their heads cut off by hoards of Islamists. She was pretty much ready to push the button to blow up all those darned brown people just to be sure.

I'm sure there were also a bunch of the usual shrill suspects--the kind of rightwing kooks who take their daughters to "purity balls" and far left morons who think the trade centers were blown up by the FBI...but who can really remember these types specifically?

Then on top of this pile of humanity sat some underemployed lawyerly Rush-limbaugh wannabe type (who was mostly absent). He was set to inherit a king's ransom from his overemployed lawyer father. He would either rail in the most rational terms against people being overly emotional, or summon up cripling emotion. He could turn on a dime, dependng on the cause at hand -- which somehow always dovetailed nicely with the policies of people who wanted to eliminate the "death tax." I remember being invited to ask his friends in the WTC whether the Iraq invasion was a good idea, before being informed that this was rhetorical: "You can't. They're dead." Priceless. Is he still lord of this interpretive dance? Or has he made it onto local access TV yet?

His minion Jonny Dollar I remember...and truly, him I cannot fault. He works hard, and that is honorable enough. He makes funny little summaries of that guy on TV so people will like Bush. There is a retarded kid on my street who sits on the sidewalk and makes melon sized piles of pebbles. One by one. Stacks them up. When I come by he points at it and smiles or laughs and seems to think it should mean something. I always give him a thumbs up and good job. Jonny deserves the same consideration.

Anyway, my monthly review is that I am delighted by the redesign, but worried that the personalities are changing. In any event, keep up the good work there guys, keep on piling. You can do it!

Can anyone do me a favor and actually copy and paste all the posts by the left wingers here where they say they love and support Iran, either overtly or covertly.

...And please don't just say:

The archives are full of them, or

They love Keith so obviously they love Iran, or

They hate Bush, so they must love Iran, or

They don't support the troops, so they want Iran to win,

Etc, Etc, Etc

...And no, saying Bullsh-t when someone asserts that there are no innocent people in Gitmo also isn't 'Loving and Supporting Iran.'

So, I'll be waiting for all the evidence here that must make it abundantly clear to any objective viewer how the Left Wingers have said either overtly or covertly that they love and / or support Iran.

Anyone? Anyone?

Rodan, we are learning more and more from philby everyday, now she says she speaks their language, hmm.

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby ,
You're a brainwashed fool.

And, yes, what Clinton did, and others, was reprehensible. Because he is both complex and secure, however, he knows that and he dealt with it. Some grace there .... I see Newt is giving some indications of that. I am sure the reprehensible Ruday never will. Basically, a bully never changes.

Might I suggest you try to see the big picture some time? None of us can do it all the time, but your limited field of vision is a burdensome handicap.

Posted by: Mrs. R. Adrian Philby at March 29, 2007 12:52 PM
A bj clinton apologist, for sure. "I didn't have sexual relations with that woman" is what he said. Newt admitted it, the whole picture you don't see.

Hey Erie Bob Olberloon-

If you want a nice summary of what's been going on the last few months while you've been away, just go to the March 23rd archive and read the post from The Truth Syndicate towards the top.

You'll feel like you haven't missed a thing...

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby,

Do not argue with these people. They are right and should be left alone to discover how right they are over and over by themselves. They need to concentrate on the work of saving the world from the evildoers. You are just distracting them.

Philby, Kim (Harold Adrian Russell)

British intelligence officer from 1940 and Soviet agent from 1933. He was liaison officer in Washington 1949–51, when he was confirmed to be a double agent and asked to resign. Named in 1963 as having warned Guy Burgess and Donald Maclean (also double agents) that their activities were known, he fled to the USSR and became a Soviet citizen and a general in the KGB. A fourth member of the ring was Anthony Blunt.

Very interesting, Mr. Rivers.

Hey Erie Bob Olberloon-

If you want a nice summary of what's been going on the last few months while you've been away, just go to the March 23rd archive and read the post from The Truth Syndicate towards the top.

You'll feel like you haven't missed a thing...

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 1:33 PM
Erie Bob hasn't been away, he's been right here the whol time......

March 29, 2007 1:23 PM

Here's an Iranian supporter below:

"What's not to love about Iran? "

"The insanity of the Iranian government is a direct reflection of the desperation they feel about their future with the planets only super power recking havoc on it's borders while budding up with all the traditional enemies of Iran - The oil rich states of the Persian Gulf."

Defending Iran!

Posted by Coward watch

Johnny Rivers: I get it. Johnny Rivers sang that early 1960s hit "Secret Agent Man."

Ted Lange played Issac the Bartender in the old Aaron Spelling hit series "Love Boat."

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby,
How fitting you name yourself after a Communist agent!
It explains your support of Islamo-Fascism!

You may remember me from the old Mickey Rooney film "Hoosier Schoolboy" I played the uncredited Mrs. Townsend.

"Erie Bob hasn't been away, he's been right here the whol time......"

Yes yes, I am always here whoeveryourname. I eat and sleep this stuff. It's riveting and wonderful in a way that is unsurpassed by anything else in this world!!! Whooooooooooo!

Anyway, I can't find the March 23 archive or else it seems to be just a couple messages. Was OW dead for a while? That would be disappointing. BTW Cecelia is the girl I was trying to think of with the canapes. Anyway, lunch is over and I'm starting to feel sick again, so I'll see you all in either a few months or never.

Mickey Roony played Santa Claus in an 1982 episode of Love Boat.

Cooche Cooche!

To you Rightwingers,
I don't discuss the Iranian regime because they've done nothing wrong. We are evil!America is responsible for all wrong doing in the world! The alleged kidnapping of the 15 UK sailors is false. Iran has never claimed to have captured them.
The alleged video is a hoax done by Karl Rove to convince people that Iran is bad.
Ahmadinejad only speaks truth to a corrupt regime that has this nation hostage!
The video is the biggest hoax since the supposed Holocaust. This alleged incident which allegedly took place in the 40's has never been proven. It was a plot by Zionists tohelp gain symapthy to create Israel. Ahmadinejad invited great scholars like David Duke to discuss this matter.
How dare any of you Reichwingers question the Iranian regime. It is a shining light onto the world!
Good night and good luck!

March 29, 2007 1:23 PM

Here's an Iranian supporter below:

"What's not to love about Iran? "

"The insanity of the Iranian government is a direct reflection of the desperation they feel about their future with the planets only super power recking havoc on it's borders while budding up with all the traditional enemies of Iran - The oil rich states of the Persian Gulf."

Defending Iran!

Posted by Coward watch
Posted by: Rodan at March 29, 2007 1:51 PM

So, saying the Gov't of Iran is INSANE and offering a plausible reason why that might be the case is Loving and Supporting them?

Wow, Rodan does your back hurt after making that stretch?

How come Ulbermahn hasn't condemed Iran taking hostages?

How come he never condemed the Holocaust denial conference?

The comments by CW,
"What's not to love about Iran? "
That's supporting Iran.

He also defended Iranina actions with a convuluted argument.

Aagain if your not Pro-Iran then you shouldn't care what is said on this subject.
Why are you getting touchy about it?

Nuke Iran and parachute Olbermann over there before we do it!

"His minion Johnny Dollar I remember...and truly, him I cannot fault. He works hard, and that is honorable enough. He makes funny little summaries of that guy on TV so people will like Bush. There is a retarted kid on my street who sits there and makes melon sized piles of pebbles. One by one. Stacks them up. When I come by he points at it and smiles and laughs and seems to think it should mean something. I always give him a thumbs up and a good job. Johnny deserves the same conserderation."

LOL!

Some things deserve repeating.

>How come Ulbermahn hasn't condemed Iran taking hostages?

Dunno, why don't you ask him. Where is the proof that 'The Leftists Here' Support and Love Iran?

>How come he never condemed the Holocaust denial conference?

Dunno, why don't you ask him. Where is the proof that 'The Leftists Here' Support and Love Iran?

>The comments by CW,
"What's not to love about Iran? "
That's supporting Iran.

I can't speak for CW, but I'm guessing that was a sarcastic statement. But at least for clarity and accuracy you can say something like, Why does CW Support and Love Iran? Since your 'friend' Joker describes himself as a Democrat, does CW speak for him? No? Then why does CW speak for everyone else that might describe themselves as Liberal?

>He also defended Iranina actions with a convuluted argument.

I missed that, can you post the example?

>Aagain if your not Pro-Iran then you shouldn't care what is said on this subject.
Why are you getting touchy about it?

Posted by: Rodan at March 29, 2007 2:17 PM

Actually Iran is the subject of your choosing, not me. My subject is the subject of exaggeration and lies regardless of the topic. I'm calling YOU out for saying The Left here supports and loves Iran, which you have yet to prove in any capacity.

Posted by: Rodan at March 29, 2007 2:17 PM

You see Rodan, it's easy to just lump everyone together to make a false argument. But proving it is quite another.

If you say the Left Here Loves and Supports Iran you should be able to come up with a few examples from a few different people that actually illustrate that point.

Otherwise you can STFU!

Olbermann has a right to suppurt Iran and Al-Qaeda. It's a fee country idiots!

WATERGATE! NIXON!

Good night. And good luck.

His minion Johnny Dollar I remember...and truly, him I cannot fault. He works hard, and that is honorable enough. He makes funny little summaries of that guy on TV so people will like Bush. There is a retarted kid on my street who sits there and makes melon sized piles of pebbles. One by one. Stacks them up. When I come by he points at it and smiles and laughs and seems to think it should mean something. I always give him a thumbs up and a good job. Johnny deserves the same conserderation."

LOL!

Some things deserve repeating.

Posted by: Mike at March 29, 2007 2:27 PM
Especially if you can't come up with anything yourself. P.S. You forgot to call him a "moron" for mis-spelling a word, lil mikey.

March 29, 2007 2:45 PM

The fact that this subjcet has touched a nerve, proves my point. If you didn't support Iran you'd say you didn'yt. Instead yoiur here making a bafoon oif yourself.
Joker hates the Iranian regime
He's a Democrat but he's a Right leaning Democrat.
I didn't say Democrats or Liberals support Iran.
I said the Left.
Big difference!

Rossie O'Donnel has expressed support of Iran.
That's a prominant Leftists.
So does Moveon.Org who have defended Ahmadinejad.
Georg Soros also has defended the regim.
Sean Penn has too.
I can keep listing name.
If this doesn'tapply to you move on.

Of course, if you've never opened a book, it is interesting to find out the world is round.

Posted by: Mrs. R. Adrian Philby at March 29, 2007 1:50 PM
Shouldn't you be on your knees kissing your dirty little piece of carpet?

I support Iran! what is anyone going to do about it. It's a free country! Iran is a peaceful nation who needs support against the evil Bush regime.
As a Progressive I must stand with the oppressed Iranians against the evil Zionist Capitalists pigs!
Go Iran!
Keith keep speaking truth to the NeoCon-Zionist powers!

royalking,
How fitting that Mrs. Philby is named after a KGB spy!

Rourke=Olbyloon

Rodan, how fitting she speaks the language of the enemy.

Mrs Philby I think is an Islamic Internet agaent. I've been reading that Jihadis are going on American blogs pretending to be Leftists. She gave 3 clues:
She defended the Iaslamization of Europe
She claims she kbows Arabic
She has been to mosques.
I doubt she's a she.
I bet the name is more Abdullah Blowmyselfup!

I bet the name is more Abdullah Blowmyselfup!

Posted by: Rodan at March 29, 2007 3:27 PM
Lets hope so!

royalking,
This is still a free country. I have a right to support Iran or Al-Qaeda. There's nothing you can do! We are still a free nation thanks to the brave Jihadists who have stopped Bush's Imperial conquests cold in Iraq. By resistsing and killing enough Imperialist troops, they have enabled the Democrats to control Congress by demoralizing the country. Zarqawi will be remembered a hero. Bush will go down in history a zero!

Mrs. Philby,
"Ever heard of Harry Saint John Bridges Philby? Dumb question. If your twit friend had Googled a bit more, he would discovered that he was a world-renowned Arabist, the first European to cross the Rub 'al-Khali, and an officer in British Mesopotamian Expeditionary Force. Mesopotamia is a historical portion of the current Iraq, as I am sure you didn't know."

You named yourself after an Arabists!
How fitting no wonder you sysmapthize with the Jihadists!

As for not knowing Iraq was Mesopotamia.
It was Mesopotamia, a preovince of the Sassaian Persian Empire.
Their capital was Ctesiphon near today's Baghdad. After the Islamic invasions, they renmed the land Iraq.
The Assyrian and Chaldean Christian communities are the indigenous peoples of Iraq. They are the ones who founded Babylon and Summer.
The ARabs are colonizers.
I bet you didn't know that!

Mrs Philby,
You are a joke and a prank.
I doubt someone would have a stupid name like yours. I bet you're some Olbyloon just playing a prank.
No one can be as stupid as you!

Mrs. Doubtfire,

No Sharia in America?

Read this:
Muslim sues judge who barred veil

Woman claims her religious rights were violated when asked to remove head scarf.

Paul Egan / The Detroit News

A Muslim woman who was told she had to remove her veil if she wanted to testify in 31st District Court in Hamtramck filed a federal lawsuit Wednesday against the judge who made the ruling.

Ginnah Muhammad filed the complaint against Judge Paul Paruk, alleging he violated her religious rights and denied her equal access to the courts.

Muhammad had gone to small claims court last October in a dispute with a car rental company when Paruk said she could not testify unless she removed her veil, the lawsuit alleges.

"If in fact, you do not wish to do it, then I cannot go forward with your case and I have to dismiss your case," Paruk told the woman, according to a transcript attached to the complaint filed by Dearborn Heights lawyer Nabih Ayad.

Muhammad refused and Paruk dismissed the case, the lawsuit alleges.

Paruk did not return a phone call.

"I'm a human being and I wanted to come to court to get justice," Muhammad said at a news conference Wednesday outside the federal courthouse in Detroit.

"When I walked out, I just really felt empty, like the courts didn't care about me."

The Quran doesn't explicitly require women to cover their face, but many Muslim women wear a hajib or other covering as a sign of piety and modesty.

Muhammad said if Paruk does not understand religious rights he should be removed from the bench.

Her litigation with Enterprise Rent-A-Car continues, because the car rental company later brought a complaint against Muhammad for alleged damage to a car she rented.

A hearing in that case is set for April 18. Ayad said he wants U.S. District Judge John Feikens to order a stay in the case. Also, Ayad said he will bring a motion in 31st District Court asking Paruk to recuse himself from hearing it.

You can reach Paul Egan at (313) 222-2300 or pegan@detnews.com.

I can't make heads or tails of this blog anymore.

There's miles of white space, the shading of the fonts is so faint as to be unreadable, and there's all these ugly icons everywhere.

"America did not cause Iran to be a nation of crazy Islamists."

Wanna bet, smart guy?

WE propped up the corrupt and autocratic Shah of Iran in the 1970's. WE knew the Shah was using SAVAK (Iran's secret police) to brutally crush even the smallest amount of dissent. WE subverted the coup attempt in 1953, which legitimized the view that the Shah was a "puppet" of the United States and Israel.

Because of this, the Iranian middle class (which was chafing under mandatory membership in the sole legal political party) found the Islamic radicals more palatable than the increasingly repressive Shah. Without the middle class, the revolution would have collapsed because of a lack of broad support.

No one can be as stupid as you!

Posted by: The Joker at March 29, 2007 3:50 PM

I am sure "stupid" is a relative term in your family, Mr. Joker.

Good post, 4:18. Not that it will be anything to Messrs. Rodan, Royalpain and Joker. I am sure Mr. Rodan thought you meant 6953.

So many people overlook relatively recent history. Without question, the US and the UK are among the most decent nations on the face of the earth, but we have also caused so much damage. Iran is what it is, in part, because of the US, Iraq, because of the UK. Colonial policies are inherently destabalizing while also feeding insurgencies. Just look at the US in the mid and late 18th Century. Look at so much of Latin America now.

Very important point.

Thank you.

March 29, 2007 4:18 PM,

Typical Olby spin! Blame America!

At least during the Shah women had equal rights.
The real reason for the revolution was that the Shah was secularizing Iranian society and emphasizing it's Pre-islamic past. This angered the ayatollahs who began to make alliances with radical leftists groups.
Together with the Ayatollahs having the support of the brainwashed poor and the Left having the support of the intellectiuals, they overthrew the Shah.
Then The Islamists turned on the Leftists and crushed them.
So you're saying that the Islamo-Fascists that are in power aren't more oppresive than the Shah?

As always a Leftist defending the Iranian regime!

As your great leader Ulbermahn would say:

Great Thanks!

Mrs. R. Adrian Philby,
I guess whan the Islamic Empire of the 7th Century was a colonial power that was ok right?
As always blaming America.
The problem with those nations is themselves!
They are their own enemies. They blame America because of their own inabailities to run modern societies.
Keep it up.
You Leftists keep proving my point!

Then The Islamists turned on the Leftists and crushed them.

---

Mr. Rodan:

You've spent your entire adult life linking Islamacists with the Leftists, and now you are saying the Leftists are their enemies?

I think this is an epiphany! And you are correct, the Left is far more dangerous to the Radical Islamo Fascists than the Right is. It is in the very nature of things.

I rejoice in your new found wisdom. Let your light shine on Messrs. Royalpain and Joker. Lead them now from the Valley of Fear and Ignorance to Mountaintop of Courage and Wisdom. If you go, they will come.

Mr Philby,
You're a fraud. Some one pretending to nbe some Marxist Pseudo-Intellectual.
Like I said yoiu have a stupid name because your're as stupid as an ant.

That's great, Roker, I call you out for not providing a shred of evidence for your assertion that the left here supports Iran, then suddenly, people who've never posted here start chiming in with their support of Iran.

You're about as transparent as saran wrap. You say that if I didn't support Iran I would say so? Says who? Just like you like to erroneously point out that your world doesn't 'revolve' around bush, other folks I'm sure feel the same way about Iran.

You don't have a hard-on for Bush, I don't have a hard-on for Iran.

For future debates, let's try to focus on what people DO say instead of what they DON'T say. People DON'T say alot of stuff. That's not the same as implied support for any of those things you consider the Boogey Man: Leftists, Iranians, Muslims, Etc.

By your own logic, since you haven't actually come out and said you are NOT an idiot, then you must be an idiot.

...And I DO have proof of that!

Mr. Philbull,
"the Leftists are their enemies? "

I was reffering to how in the Iranian revolution the Left and the Islamists were allies. The Islamists then turned on the Leftists. They used the Left.
The same way they're using you.
If the Left is enemy of Islamists why do you constsntly defend them.
You even priased the Islamization of REurope.
They are using you and will turn on you at the oppotune moment.

March 29, 2007 4:40 PM
I did provide examples. You are an example. The Iran subject has you touchey. If I stated the Left supported Iran, you shou;ld've said that you don't.
You know damn well that there's Leftists supporting Iran.
OIf you don't support Iran than my satement doesn't apply to you. So relax and take a chill pill.

Rosie O'Donnel supports Iran.
Sean Penn supports Iran
Georeg Soros supports Iran.
That's 3 Leftists.
In fact If I wanted to and I might I can post a list of Leftists and Leftwing groups who support Iran.

As for that poster saying they support Iran,
I'm ignoring it. It's just someone being a clownn. It's probably you being sarcastic.
Byr the way, Olbermann does support Iran. He's never condemed tham and has defended tham.

Roker?

Do you mean that pitcher John Rocker?

>I can't make heads or tails of this blog anymore.

Anymore? Cecelia you never could tell up from down.

>There's miles of white space, the shading of the fonts is so faint as to be unreadable, and there's all these ugly icons everywhere.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 4:07 PM

Miles of white space? Prone to a little exaggeration are we? Faint, unreadable fonts? Where? Adjust your monitor. Get glasses. The font colors are fine. Ugly icons everywhere? My goodness, aren't we sensitive. Hate to break it to you Cecelia, the world just isn't the way you'd like it. Sorry your little sanctuary got a new paint job and your having a hard time adjusting. Can't wait to see how you do under a new president.

"Can't wait to see how you do under a new president."

Yeah, I can't wait till Rudy Giulliani is President. He's gonna make you Leftists and your Media allies squirm like little roaches. Unlike Bush he'sll fight back against you guys and hopefully sick The IRS, FBI and whatever other means to put you clowns in your place!
I can't wait!

Alas, the light has dimmed yet again.

My final post for at least two (2) weeks as I am off to the city now for tomorrow's flight. If the Radical Islamo Fascists ground the bluebirds over the the white cliffs or Dover, be assured Mr. Rodan, my thoughts will be of you standing against the brilliant flames of a mighty book burning. To paraphrase a great strategist during the Vietnam conflict, I am sure you will destroy America to save it.

Please remember to put on your helmet when doing household chores lest you trip and sustain another head injury.

Adieu.

"And, as a Leftist who doesn't spoke pot, who has been faithful to marriage vows and is a decided heterosexual, will my Episcopal faith be held against me? Please advise. "

Actually, yes it will. Just ask the folks at Amnesty International who have petitioned against the execution of several Iranian Christians. Their crime? Being Christians. Hope you enjoy paying the jizyah. Maybe you'll convert rather than live as a second class citizen. Oh, that's right! If you are a woman, you would still be a second class citizen even after shedding your dhimmi status.

You probably imagine that you would be just fine living in an Islamic republic ruled by that handsome Ahmedinijad. Much better than that mean, nasty old George Bush. Were it to come to pass, though, I am certain you would plead with the heavens to bring back Bush and Cheney.

You want to apologize for the real tyrants of the world, while showing us what a cosmopolitan, urbane, wealthy, upper class, useless twit you are? Fine. Walter Duranty thought Stalin was a real swell guy, too. So did the idiot English Aristocrats who thought Mr. Hitler was such a charming chappie. I'm sure there is a certain type in every society that enjoys flirting with genocidal madmen. You just happen to be the latest iteration of that particular sort of dupe.

Mr Phil,
Hopefully some suicide bomber gets you!

Mags,
That was a great post. You pointed out how Leftwing wanna be intellectuasl always support the latest totalitarian movement.
It was Uncle Joe Stalin then and It's the Great Ahmadinejad today!
Again you pointed the hypocrisy of people that are weathly and never struggled for a meal.
They are delusion and good going poppping Phil's delusional PC world!

>I did provide examples.

You did not provide any examples of any so-called Left Winger on this site showing love and support for Iran.

>You are an example. The Iran subject has you touchey. If I stated the Left supported Iran, you shou;ld've said that you don't.
You know damn well that there's Leftists supporting Iran.

I am neither a supporter of Iran nor am I a Leftist. But I am an example alright, an example of someone who likes to call people out for lying and exaggerating. Iran doesn't have me 'touchey.' The subject of Iran has you foaming at the mouth as usual. The case in point I am addressing is how ignorant fools like you come on this message board and post garbage you can't back up with facts.

>OIf you don't support Iran than my satement doesn't apply to you. So relax and take a chill pill.

I'm sure you'd love me to sit idly by while you distort, lie, exaggerate, pigeon-hole, threaten, mischaracterize, and paint with a brush as wide as your prejudice.

>Rosie O'Donnel supports Iran.
Sean Penn supports Iran
Georeg Soros supports Iran.
That's 3 Leftists.
In fact If I wanted to and I might I can post a list of Leftists and Leftwing groups who support Iran.

Right, yeah, you can come up with name after name of people who don't think the way you want them to. What I'm asking for is proof they 'Love and Support' Iran. In fact, all I want is proof that people you've labeled 'leftists' here Love and Support Iran.

>As for that poster saying they support Iran,
I'm ignoring it. It's just someone being a clownn. It's probably you being sarcastic.
Byr the way, Olbermann does support Iran. He's never condemed tham and has defended tham.
Posted by: Rodan at March 29, 2007 4:54 PM

Again, my dense little friend, NOT CONDEMNING is not the same as SUPPORTING AND LOVING. Wonder where I got the phrase 'Support and Love'? It was you. That's why I'm calling you on it. You didn't say the Leftists don't condemn Iran, You said the leftists LOVE and SUPPORT Iran. If that was truly the case, you should be able to flood this message board with proof. The people you named like to talk right? So let's hear it. Let's see it. And if not, you can STFU.

...And to everyone here on the message board who hasn't already come out and posted some angry message condemning Iran, Roker thinks you are Loving and Supporting them. You should be ashamed of yourselves!

>I can't make heads or tails of this blog anymore.

Anymore? Cecelia you never could tell up from down.

>There's miles of white space, the shading of the fonts is so faint as to be unreadable, and there's all these ugly icons everywhere.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 4:07 PM

Miles of white space? Prone to a little exaggeration are we? Faint, unreadable fonts? Where? Adjust your monitor. Get glasses. The font colors are fine. Ugly icons everywhere? My goodness, aren't we sensitive. Hate to break it to you Cecelia, the world just isn't the way you'd like it. Sorry your little sanctuary got a new paint job and your having a hard time adjusting. Can't wait to see how you do under a new president.

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 4:57 PM

Down, Fifi!

I'll continue to do very well under a new president regardless of their party affilliation. We do live in the U.S. you know... Our political parties aren't the equivalent of third world political juntas.

I think you need to step back from the political fray in order to gain or hopefully regain the perspective that your political opposition and/or people with the terimity to dislike like Keith Olbermann are fellow Americans (as annoying as their beliefs can be).

We're all going to manage to be reasonably contented in the good ole U.S. of A, regardless of the party in power and nonpolitical posts about font and white space are just non-political observations and not cause for ankle-biting.

Sit, Fifi....

I Have a Bull-sh-t Detector,

You are a Leftists. If you weren't you wouldn't care about the fact the Left supports Iran.
You are the Bull-sh-ter here!
Look at the post defending the Iranian regime at 4:18. That's an example of support.
You must be a Leftists and supporter of Iran. That's why your upset. I pulled your card!

Listen Roker, I know why it is you do what you do. If the Left doesn't truly LOVE and SUPPORT Iran and Jihadists and terrorists like you seem to think, then you have nothing.

You have no reason to be here...

You have no reason to hate Olbermann..

You have no reason to hate me...

Basically you have no reason to exist...

Since your very existence (as evidenced by all your posts in their entirety) is based around your hate of Muslims and the Lie that the Left Loves and Supports everything you hate, that's essentially all you have.

Pretty sad existence...

Important News below:

Michael Jackson wants Vegas robot

03/27/2007 4:00 PM, Yahoo! Music
Dotmusic

Michael Jackson is in discussions about creating a 50-foot robotic replica of himself to roam the Las Vegas desert, according to reports.

The pop legend is currently understood to be living in the city, as he considers making a comeback after 2004's turbulent child sex case.

It has now been claimed that his plans include an elaborate show in Vegas, which would feature the giant Jacko striding around the desert, firing laser beams.

If built, the metal monster would apparently be visible to aircraft as they come in to land in the casino capital.

It is the centerpiece of an elaborate Jackson-inspired show in Vegas, according to Andre Van Pier, the robot's designer.

Luckman Van Pier, his partner at the company behind the proposal, claims blueprints have been drawn up for the show and seen by the star.

"Michael's looked at the sketches and likes them," he told the New York Daily News.

On the subject of the robot, he continued: "It would be in the desert sands. Laser beams would shoot out of it so it would be the first thing people flying in would see."

"Can't wait to see how you do under a new president."

Yeah, I can't wait till Rudy Giulliani is President. He's gonna make you Leftists and your Media allies squirm like little roaches. Unlike Bush he'sll fight back against you guys and hopefully sick The IRS, FBI and whatever other means to put you clowns in your place!
I can't wait!

ODD... and here I was all along thinking that my ridicule of moronic paranoid right wingers had no base on reality:

I'M SURE AT THIS VERY MOMENT COURAGEOUS PRES. BUSH IS PERSONALLY IN CHARGE OF A PACK OF SEALS TO RESCUE OUR ABDUCTED SOLDIERS!

AND UPON HIS GLORIOUS RETURN, HE SHOULD SEIZE THE AL-JAZEERA's OPERATIONS OF THE LBRUL MEDIA IN THE USA!!!

DAMN YOU C.N.N.!! DAMN YOU C.B.S.!! DAMN YOU G.E.!! DAMN YOU N.B.C.!!

AFTER THE NETWORKS HAVE BEEN STAFFED WITH FOX NEW's PERSONNEL, WE SHALL HAVE 24/7 - 365 CHRISTIAN PROGRAMMING AND TEACHINGS FROM GRAND MASTER BILLDO!!

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!! LBURLS!!

YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR AGAINST US!!!

DAMN YOU ANTI-AMERICAN SECULARIST PROGRESSIVES!!!!

March 29, 2007 5:30 PM aka No name Leftist,

I wish the Left was anti-Islkamo-Fascist. That way we can present a united front to our enemies! But it is not so. Instaed you have a media with people like Ulbermahn and Rosie O'Donnel supporting our enemies. That encourages them.
It's a fact that Ulbermahn is very popular with the Jihadi set. In fact some Jihadi websites have praised him!

Your existence is based on deial. You really belive that Islam is a peaceful religion. It's a death cult and you Leftists just don't get it! I'm sure you're happy 15 British sailors are hostages of your Iranian buddies. I bet you hope they get their heads cut off!

Roker, having fun "debating" with Mike? His argumentative posts are transparent. "By your own logic" is his trademark line, among some other doozies. Along with the trademark "idiot."

"I'M SURE AT THIS VERY MOMENT COURAGEOUS PRES. BUSH IS PERSONALLY IN CHARGE OF A PACK OF SEALS TO RESCUE OUR ABDUCTED SOLDIERS!"

No at this very moment the Coward in Chief is hiding from the Leftist Press in the whitehouse. He's scared sh-tless of tham and is a total coward!

"DAMN YOU ANTI-AMERICAN SECULARIST PROGRESSIVES!!!!"

I'm a Pro-american secular Libertarian.
Like a true Leftist you think everyone Right of Center is the same.

Like I said, soon iyt will be Giuilliani time and we'll see how brave people like Rosie O'Donnel, George soreass and Ulbermahn are when they have to worry about whether the perosn behind them will be the last thing they remember!

March 29, 2007 5:37 PM
1st of all It's Rodan. Not John Rocker.
I'm not arguing with Mike. Mike doesn't support Iran and isn't a Leftist. He's a Liberal. Big difference.
Example Joe Lieberman is a Liberal.
Ulbermahn is a Leftist.

Rodant,
This is a free Country and I have a right to support Iran! They are a great ancient nation with greater Human Rights than here. we can learn a thing or 2 from them.

WE propped up the corrupt and autocratic Shah of Iran in the 1970's. WE knew the Shah was using SAVAK (Iran's secret police) to brutally crush even the smallest amount of dissent. WE subverted the coup attempt in 1953, which legitimized the view that the Shah was a "puppet" of the United States and Israel.

Because of this, the Iranian middle class (which was chafing under mandatory membership in the sole legal political party) found the Islamic radicals more palatable than the increasingly repressive Shah. Without the middle class, the revolution would have collapsed because of a lack of broad support.

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 4:18 PM

Along with the oil fields... there was the geopolitical consideration of the goood ole USSR and it's interest in the region back in the Shah's time.

It certainly would have been a precarious balancing act to publicly pressure the Shah to be more amenable to human rights, while keeping his allegiance to us instead of our enemies, and in not putting him at risk to his enemies.

These sort of overtures were made to Saddam, to no avail, and we know his record on human rights and the consensus now seems to be that the Iraqis were better off and that iraq should have been left to Saddam and that the U.S. should have done more to make Iraq less isolated from the world community, because his brutal regime was a the barrier against something much worse.

These matters can certainly be over-simplified, to say the least...and goodness knows hindsight is 20/20.

>I wish the Left was anti-Islkamo-Fascist. That way we can present a united front to our enemies! But it is not so. Instaed you have a media with people like Ulbermahn and Rosie O'Donnel supporting our enemies.

Proof?

>That encourages them.
It's a fact that Ulbermahn is very popular with the Jihadi set. In fact some Jihadi websites have praised him!

Because someone likes something doesn't mean that something likes the someone back.

>Your existence is based on deial. You really belive that Islam is a peaceful religion.

Proof? Is that because of something I said, or because something I didn't say, or perhaps because I'm calling you on your bullsh-t.

>It's a death cult and you Leftists just don't get it! I'm sure you're happy 15 British sailors are hostages of your Iranian buddies. I bet you hope they get their heads cut off!
Posted by: Rodan at March 29, 2007 5:36 PM

Proof?

Have I ranted Anti-Anglo insults? Have I 'proven' to you I'm a Leftist simply because I think you are a Liar?

I'm actually from England you idiot.

And no, Jeffy I'm not Mikey.

You see, I try to explain to you guys. Not all your enemies are the same.

(This is where Cecelia chimes in with Duh! You idiots are legion...)

Cecelia must be Mike too, she said Idiot!

Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I think like your perceived 'enemy.'

Just because I shine the light on you for what you are, a lying hypocrite, doesn't mean I support Jihad.

I know it helps you maintain your bunker mentality and 'Us VS Them' mindset, but put down your prejudice for just a moment and see things for how they really are.

Yes, there are Muslim Extremists in this world. Yes, they resent the US way of life. Yes, they would like to see us destroyed. Yes, we should fight together to defeat them.

But if 'fighting together to defeat them' to you means you take a shot-gun approach and kill everything that doesn't share your point of view, I'm afraid you're on your own.

I'll never side with stupidity and ignorance just to fight against evil. Stupidity and Ignorance just makes you weaker not stronger.

I'll fight the good fight against evil my own way, and evil, to me, consists of religious extremists as well as liars and hypocrites.

I hope the British Sailors get their head cut off? If you really think that, Then at least I know, in my heart, that you are wrong. And I'm guessing everyone else here does too. Everyone except Jeff, that is.

You see, I try to explain to you guys. Not all your enemies are the same.

(This is where Cecelia chimes in with Duh! You idiots are legion...)

This is an apt point and one you need to hear, Rodan.

Idiots are legion and you should not attribute this particular idiot's views to the whole spectrum of political liberals/progressives.

>These matters can certainly be over-simplified, to say the least...and goodness knows hindsight is 20/20.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 5:52 PM

Hindsight 20/20? A little forethought can help the regular sight be 20/20 too.

I actually wrote three letters to the editor of my local newspaper during 'Shock and Ahhhhhh' pretty much spelling out extactly what would happen if there was a power vacuum in Iraq. And it has happened just as I thought it would.

There were a lot of 'Leftists' that held that same 20/20 foresight.

In fact, we were warned by a number of reliable sources. And, if you'll remember correctly, anyone saying so was ridiculed.

This is more than just a 'Oh well, hindsight is 20/20' situation. And I'm sure the family members of the dead soldiers in Iraq would love to hear that trite explanation of the mistakes this administration has made.

Idiots are legion and you should not attribute this particular idiot's views to the whole spectrum of political liberals/progressives.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 6:03 PM

I'm an idiot, huh? For saying Roker is off base by saying that someone who doesn't speak out against Iran is in support of them?

I haven't seen you speak out on Iran lately Cecelia? You must be getting soft of Terror!

This is more than just a 'Oh well, hindsight is 20/20' situation. And I'm sure the family members of the dead soldiers in Iraq would love to hear that trite explanation of the mistakes this administration has made.

Posted by: The Righteous Brothers at March 29, 2007 6:09 PM

You're reasoning is just as incoherent as your posts, TRB. I wasn't arguing that it was esoteric insight coming only from obscure corners to argue that we risked turning over Iraq to something worse in overthrowing Saddam or that this view is predicated on hindsight in the slightest.

>You're reasoning is just as incoherent as your posts, TRB

To someone who doesn't understand them, I'm sure...

Instead of telling me what you WEREN'T arguing why don't you tell everyone what you WERE arguing when you said:

These sort of overtures were made to Saddam, to no avail, and we know his record on human rights and the consensus now seems to be that the Iraqis were better off and that iraq should have been left to Saddam and that the U.S. should have done more to make Iraq less isolated from the world community, because his brutal regime was a the barrier against something much worse.

These matters can certainly be over-simplified, to say the least...and goodness knows hindsight is 20/20.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 5:52 PM

I'm an idiot, huh? For saying Roker is off base by saying that someone who doesn't speak out against Iran is in support of them?

I haven't seen you speak out on Iran lately Cecelia? You must be getting soft of Terror!

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 6:11 PM

Well, you just proved it...

I did speak out on what is YOUR complaint-- interpreting one person's political beliefs in the most perjorative manner possible and then assigning that interpretation to an entire political or ideological persuasion...

Sounds like you're soft on terror to me

>This is an apt point and one you need to hear, Rodan.

Idiots are legion and you should not attribute this particular idiot's views to the whole spectrum of political liberals/progressives.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 6:03 PM

...And not at all surprising that you would agree with someone you refer to as an idiot.

Apparently your oh-so-common Love / Hate relationships include the one you have with yourself!

Instead of telling me what you WEREN'T arguing why don't you tell everyone what you WERE arguing when you said:

Posted by: The Righteous Brothers at March 29, 2007 6:19 PM

Well, let me help you out then.

That we shouldn't forget the geopolitical realities of the Shah's time-- namely that there was another super power at the time who was actively engaged in "propping up" (money, arms, etc) the Shah's enemies.

That one man's human rights abusing dictator is another man's last bastion against "something worse".

...And Roker is such a big tough defender of the free world against Evil Islam that he lets a girl fight his battles for him.

Very stand-up of you Roker....

Very tough...

I'm sure Iran cowers at the thought of the mighty Roker...

>Well, let me help you out then.

That we shouldn't forget the geopolitical realities of the Shah's time-- namely that there was another super power at the time who was actively engaged in "propping up" (money, arms, etc) the Shah's enemies.

That one man's human rights abusing dictator is another man's last bastion against "something worse".

Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 6:27 PM

You managed to alter and expand your position slightly. So, where does the part about hindsight being 20/20 come in?

Idiots are legion and you should not attribute this particular idiot's views to the whole spectrum of political liberals/progressives.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 6:03 PM

...And not at all surprising that you would agree with someone you refer to as an idiot.

Apparently your oh-so-common Love / Hate relationships include the one you have with yourself!

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 6:25 PM

Of course. Even a stopped clock is right twice day.

Here's irony.... you're lecturing me because you think I shouldn't be defending *you when you're right and then you say that *! have a love-hate relationship with myself!

Are you saying we should have known better, could not have possibly known better, or something more convoluted you have yet to pull out of your nether region?

>Of course. Even a stopped clock is right twice day.

And a clock that is a few ticks off, is always wrong, just like you.

>Here's irony.... you're lecturing me because you think I shouldn't be defending *you when you're right and then you say that *! have a love-hate relationship with myself!
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 6:32 PM

Irony? I think you should defend me? Hardly. You called me an idiot for exposing an indefensible position. I never asked nor wanted you to defend me.

..And yes, it's true, you seem a little conflicted Cecelia, and I say that without the slightest hint of Irony.

Are you saying we should have known better, could not have possibly known better, or something more convoluted you have yet to pull out of your nether region?

Posted by: The Righteous Brothers at March 29, 2007 6:33 PM

Good lord. I'm saying you're hopeless.

>Good lord. I'm saying you're hopeless.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 6:37 PM

That's the type of debate I've come to expect from Cecelia.

Ask a simple question and get THAT in return.

These matters can certainly be over-simplified, to say the least...and goodness knows hindsight is 20/20.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 5:52 PM

Shoulda...

Woulda...

Coulda...

Over-Simplified Indeed!

Irony? I think you should defend me? Hardly. You called me an idiot for exposing an indefensible position. I never asked nor wanted you to defend me.

..And yes, it's true, you seem a little conflicted Cecelia, and I say that without the slightest hint of Irony.

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 6:37 PM

I called you an idiot long before you made the argument about 'enemies not all being the same' with Rodan, as you so graciously reminded everyone by including the old comment in your post to Rodan.

You don't have to "ask" me to defend what I think is correct. I do it without anyone's permission and regardless of the idiot who happens to have managed to be right about something at the time. I stated that to Rodan.

As to being "conflicted" or being in a love-hate relationship with themself, you seem to have all the earmarks.

Shoulda...

Woulda...

Coulda...

Over-Simplified Indeed!

Posted by: The Righteous Brothers at March 29, 2007 6:40 PM

Then we're agreed...

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>I called you an idiot long before you made the argument about 'enemies not all being the same' with Rodan, as you so graciously reminded everyone by including the old comment in your post to Rodan.

Wrong again Cecelia-

>Just because I don't think like you doesn't mean I think like your perceived 'enemy.'
Posted by: Not Pro-Mike, Just Anti-Roker at March 29, 2007 5:58 PM

>Idiots are legion and you should not attribute this particular idiot's views to the whole spectrum of political liberals/progressives.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 6:03 PM

Funny you should mention a broken clock and then make a post claiming 5:58 came before 6:03.

>As to being "conflicted" or being in a love-hate relationship with themself, you seem to have all the earmarks.

Calling out people that lie is an attribute of someone who is conflicted? Common sense would dictate just the opposite. Calling out liars would indicate someone with a strong sense of self.

...But you're the expert...

Sorry Ma'am. I have some terrible news for you. Your son has died fighting bravely in Iraq. But I have good news too...Cecelia says we shouldn't over-simplify such matters...she says hindsight is 20/20...she says a lot of stuff that makes us right wingers feel better about ourselves ....anyway, I hope it makes you feel better too....Again, sorry for your loss.

-SGT JustFollowingOrders

Calling out people that lie is an attribute of someone who is conflicted? Common sense would dictate just the opposite. Calling out liars would indicate someone with a strong sense of self.

...But you're the expert...

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 6:54 PM

So you are incapable of understanding that I *first called you an idiot when I stated "idiots are legion" to you, a week ago?

...And Roker is such a big tough defender of the free world against Evil Islam that he lets a girl fight his battles for him.

Very stand-up of you Roker....

Very tough...

I'm sure Iran cowers at the thought of the mighty Roker...

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 6:28 PM
It was ok when cw was defending you left and right but cecelia can't defend someone? What's wrong with you?

So you are incapable of understanding that I *first called you an idiot when I stated "idiots are legion" to you, a week ago?
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 6:58 PM

That wasn't me Cecelia. That was my neighbor. I'm half Romainian and half Irish / English, He's half German and half Dutch. I'm a moderate and he's an independent. So, obviously you can see we're different people.

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 6:28 PM
It was ok when cw was defending you left and right but cecelia can't defend someone? What's wrong with you?
Posted by: at March 29, 2007 6:59 PM

I never said someone can or can't defend someone. It's Roker's absence that's curious. Not Cecelia's mindless desire to defend all that is wrong...I expect that!

It's you mike. Can't fool me, maybe Rodan, not me. A week or so ago you were "not pro olbermann just anti hypocrisy" kinda like the name you just posted under not pro mike anti roker. You called me "jeffy" lil mikey, it's ok, don't go away mad, just go away.

Sorry Ma'am. I have some terrible news for you. Your son has died fighting bravely in Iraq. But I have good news too...Cecelia says we shouldn't over-simplify such matters...she says hindsight is 20/20...she says a lot of stuff that makes us right wingers feel better about ourselves ....anyway, I hope it makes you feel better too....Again, sorry for your loss.

-SGT JustFollowingOrders

Posted by: The Righteous Brothers at March 29, 2007 6:58 PM

So this is the result of a statement I made regarding dictators in Iran vs one in Iraq?

One couldn't get more simple your post. Or more glib.

mike, would you get over the fact cecelia backed you in a corner several times and just move on? Continuing calling people idiots and morons all day every day is getting f---in old, dude. Just take Johnny advise, would ya?

That wasn't me Cecelia. That was my neighbor. I'm half Romainian and half Irish / English, He's half German and half Dutch. I'm a moderate and he's an independent. So, obviously you can see we're different people.

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 7:03 PM

"Obviously", I can't see anything but "posted by at" in this medium, so you've once again proven you idiots are legion.

I never said someone can or can't defend someone. It's Roker's absence that's curious. Not Cecelia's mindless desire to defend all that is wrong...I expect that!

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 7:05 PM
Rodan probly had to roll a fatty, he'll be back.

I never said someone can or can't defend someone. It's Roker's absence that's curious. Not Cecelia's mindless desire to defend all that is wrong...I expect that!

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 7:05 PM

Since I defended your statement, are you calling yourself or your half-german neighbor wrong?

Where did the ranting and raving "anon" that answers to mike go? Can't wait for Ulbermahn to spike the Iran hostage story, again, proving his bias/Iran defending. What's amazing is olbyloons defend someone who defends Iran,but, claim they don't support or defend Iran. The 60 Minute Cyclone approaches.......

"10 pm repeat tanked, coming in a humiliating fifth place--actually losing to Donny Deutsch on CNBC! (even "Oxy-Clean" beats Deutsch)"

Guess Donny D. better watch out ....Dan (i got my job because of my father) Abrams my move
his show to a different slot to help olby out.

OK RoyalKing AKA 'Jeff":

Who in the hell are you accusing me of posting as now? I haven't even been home since I quickly reposted a very good comment by someone else earlier this afternoon at 2:27 - so once, again, WHOEVER you are accusing me of posing as....anon or otherwise...it's WASN'T me...ONCE AGAIN!!!

How many times can you make an ass of yourself before you figure out that you actually ARE making an ass out of yourself?

No if you'll go back and check, moron...you will find that the ONLY person I have called a moron on this blog is YOU. Why? Hint...it has nothing whatsoever to do with your many misspellings (we all do that occasionally)....it's because YOU are the ONLY one on this blog who ACTUALLY IS a moron.

Get it now....MORON!

Cecelia:

It appears that your side's village idiot, RoyalKing AKA - 'Jeff', is once AGAIN accusing me of arguing with you about something on this discussion board posing as someone else.

If I did, I must have another personality I don't know anything about, and I don't even know what we supposedly were arguing about? From what I have just read, I understand you "backed me into a corner"?

I guess I'll have to go back and look and see if I can figure what my other personality was doing while I was out.

>So this is the result of a statement I made regarding dictators in Iran vs one in Iraq?

One couldn't get more simple your post. Or more glib.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 7:09 PM

No, this is the result of this statement you made:

>These sort of overtures were made to Saddam, to no avail, and we know his record on human rights and the consensus now seems to be that the Iraqis were better off and that iraq should have been left to Saddam and that the U.S. should have done more to make Iraq less isolated from the world community, because his brutal regime was a the barrier against something much worse.

These matters can certainly be over-simplified, to say the least...and goodness knows hindsight is 20/20.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 5:52 PM

Trying to get you to own up to your own words is like trying to make a cat look at itself in the mirror, I keep putting it in front of you and you just keep looking away...

>Since I defended your statement, are you calling yourself or your half-german neighbor wrong?
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 7:20 PM

No, you weren't defending my statement. I was telling Roker that just because someone doesn't denounce Iran doesn't mean they Love and Support Iran. You caught the last part of the argument where I was telling him he's painting with a broad brush (among other things) and you chimed in by basically saying, yeah Roker, don't judge all the libs by what this idiot is saying.

You call that defending my statement?

That doesn't even qualify as a back-handed compliment.

Which kind of makes me wonder why Cecelia would jump into the middle of an argument and essentially not agree with either side?

Oh yeah, it's the obsession with the Love / Hate relationship. She loves conflict...

And my half-German neighbor, he's always wrong, and he drinks too much...

Right Roker?

No, this is the result of this statement you made:

>These sort of overtures were made to Saddam, to no avail, and we know his record on human rights and the consensus now seems to be that the Iraqis were better off and that iraq should have been left to Saddam and that the U.S. should have done more to make Iraq less isolated from the world community, because his brutal regime was a the barrier against something much worse.

These matters can certainly be over-simplified, to say the least...and goodness knows hindsight is 20/20.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 5:52 PM

Trying to get you to own up to your own words is like trying to make a cat look at itself in the mirror, I keep putting it in front of you and you just keep looking away...

Posted by: The Righteous Brothers at March 29, 2007 8:41 PM

TRB, it doesn't matter how often I restate what I said, you're still going to confuse the last paragraph as being about Iraq rather than Iran and then move on from there into glib screeds about Iraq War casualities.

The problem isn't that I won't own up to my words, the problem is that you are intellectually stunted and a blinkered one-trick pony.

You caught the last part of the argument where I was telling him he's painting with a broad brush (among other things) and you chimed in by basically saying, yeah Roker, don't judge all the libs by what this idiot is saying.

You call that defending my statement?

That doesn't even qualify as a back-handed compliment.

Posted by: at March 29, 2007 8:57 PM

Good description. Yes, I call that defending your statement (about not painting all with a broad brush) without defending you personally. As I have said, if someone says something true, I agree and I point it out when I wish, even when it is an idiot who managed to express it.

I guess I'll have to go back and look and see if I can figure what my other personality was doing while I was out.

Posted by: MIke at March 29, 2007 8:21 PM

Mike, I think the problem lies with your having admittedly posted under some other alias or something. But don't worry about me worrying about whether or not some anonymous person is you or not. I don't.

"Mike, I think the problem lies with your having addmittedly posted under some other alias or something."

And my ridiculously obsessed accuser has admitted doing exactly the same thing.

Funny thing, this guy keeps asking me to leave....but it just wouldn't work. Even if I DID leave, He'd be accusing 20 other posters of being me for the next six months.....LOL.

Funny thing, this guy keeps asking me to leave....but it just wouldn't work. Even if I DID leave, He'd be accusing 20 other posters of being me for the next six months.....LOL.

Posted by: Mike at March 29, 2007 10:50 PM

I think you should consider that as a compliment.

Funny thing, this guy keeps asking me to leave....but it just wouldn't work. Even if I DID leave, He'd be accusing 20 other posters of being me for the next six months.....LOL.

Posted by: Mike at March 29, 2007 10:50 PM
I was refering to Johnny's request, not mine.

>The problem isn't that I won't own up to my words (that may not be a problem for you, but it is to me), the problem is that you are intellectually stunted and a blinkered one-trick pony.
Posted by: Cecelia at March 29, 2007 10:15 PM

If that one-trick I seem to have is to make people own up to their words, then I'd say that's a pretty good trick.

Funny you should describe me as 'Glib' on two different occassions, I think saying hindsight is 20/20 about either Iran or Iraq is about as Glib as it gets.

...And intellectually stunted, yeah I must seem so next to all the witty 'your turban must be too tight' and 'Olbermann has a limp dick' banter of your conservative friends on this message board.

...And you can approve of the message but not the messenger, how very enlightened of you. We're blessed to be so fortunate to have you among us to moderate our discussions.

If that one-trick I seem to have is to make people own up to their words, then I'd say that's a pretty good trick.

Funny you should describe me as 'Glib' on two different occassions, I think saying hindsight is 20/20 about either Iran or Iraq is about as Glib as it gets.

...And intellectually stunted, yeah I must seem so next to all the witty 'your turban must be too tight' and 'Olbermann has a limp dick' banter of your conservative friends on this message board.

...And you can approve of the message but not the messenger, how very enlightened of you. We're blessed to be so fortunate to have you among us to moderate our discussions.

Posted by: The Righteous Brothers at March 30, 2007 12:57 AM

You are a one-trick pony, but that doesn't mean you're talented at it.... I doubt anyone owns up to your interpretation of their words, no matter how many times you've asked them to restate them.

That you go blithely on your way oblivious to that fact as much as you are to which conservative is writing what, isn't a surprise either.

...And you can approve of the message but not the messenger, how very enlightened of you. We're blessed to be so fortunate to have you among us to moderate our discussions.

Posted by: The Righteous Brothers at March 30, 2007 12:57 AM

When I "defended" Anon's statement but not Anon, it was in response to he/she invoking my name in the discussion. That's hardly "moderating".

>That you go blithely on your way oblivious to that fact as much as you are to which conservative is writing what, isn't a surprise either.

You're reasoning is just as incoherent as your posts.

>You are a one-trick pony, but that doesn't mean you're talented at it.

Don't worry Cecelia, I didn't accidentally think you were complimenting me. Shudder...

Just more of your bloviating without any real insight into anything that's going on here in your conservative fantasy land, or the real world.

Just more of your bloviating without any real insight into anything that's going on here in your conservative fantasy land, or the real world.

Posted by: The Righteous Brothers at March 30, 2007 1:24 AM

No. He actually doesn't see any inherent contradictions here....

Hey Cecelia, I really don't feel like arguing with you anymore. So, I'm just gonna hop on over to the main page from today and have a look.

I'm guessing you're already there...

Awwwww....TRB, and I was just about to explain to you whether you or "whoever" had the burden of proof on your assertions about Gitmo....

That's actually pretty funny!