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Well what do we have here? Why it seems that Keith Olbermann's girlfriend has been uploading her video projects to CurrentTv.com's website. For those of you not in the know, this is the website branch of the Al Gore-owned cable network. Olbermann has previously described his girlfriend as a "Freelance Cable Producer", but judging from her work here we can easily see why that translates into, "Unemployed".
The theory behind Al Gore's little cable television project is that viewers submit videos to the on-line website, and that visitors to the website rate the videos or "greenlight" them. Once a video is greenlit, it is then considered for airing on the Current TV cable network. Now apparently young Katy Tur has been spending her time making "girlfriend on the street" interviews, which in Keith's mind, apparently qualifies her to be a "freelance cable producer".
What types of videos has she shot? Why there's coverage of the Circus Elephant Walk. She probably mistook the elephants for Olbermann's backside. Then there are political pieces, where she's obviously gained entrance into press events and the like for political candidates like McCain, Bloomberg, and Bill Richardson.
She seems to have let her hair go darker from her California Blonde party-girl days, perhaps to give her a more "serious" on-air look. And she seems to have ditched the square nerd glasses (most recently seen on her boy (okay, old man-friend), Olbermann. But what she can't seem to shake are the rampant head-tossing and Valley Girl twang.
And then there are the comments left by Ms. Katy Tur at her CurrentTV page:
I am not a journalism student, but I grew up in the business and I seemed to soak some of it in (much to my parents chagrin). Now I'm just freelancing, trying to get my foot in the door somewhere.
Foot in the door somewhere? Huh? Katy's parents are Robert and Marika Tur, who broke the story on the LA Riots, shot the Reginald Denney beating and found OJ Simpson on his infamous slow-speed chase. And before she moved to NYC, Katy did have a foot in the door, in fact, you might say that she had her entire body in the door as her first job out of college, sans journalism degree, was as a producer at KTLA in Los Angeles. We are going to take a wild guess here that not many kids straight out of college, without a journalism degree land a job working at a television station in the second largest television market in the U.S. But I guess even that wasn't enough of a forward push for Ms. Tur, she dumped her boyfriend and took up with one Keith Olbermann. And she's telling us that's not even helping her? Well the mystery isn't too hard to figure out if you watch these videos. It's reassuring to know that no amount of connections can buy you talent and Ms. Tur seems singularly lacking in talent. Perhaps her best talents are off-camera?
Keep us updated on his other favorite person, Brian Stelter, and his job hunt too!
Is that a naked woman on her site?
She sounds about as vapid as the lunk-head she is dating. After watching the McCain video, I thought that the twat was setting him up to be "Worst Person in the Worlddddddd"
As Always, Great Thanks!
Putting a naked woman on her site was probably the only way she could get Olbermann to look at her videos.
I'd like to believe that some of the comments and ridicule of this woman (whose only crime is being involved with Keith Olbermann) is being done by pimple faced types whose only reference to female anatomy comes from online porn.
Unfortunately though, I think she is being bashed by men (obstensively ...) with wives and daughters and who wouldnt tolerate it if it were happening to them.
In vernacular I think even you will understand, guys:
You suck!
Cecelia, Tur posted these videos online herself for the sole purpose of seeking comments on them. The quote that I used in my initial post is directly from her. Olbermann has referenced her so many times in interviews and on-air that I've lost count. She's also the daughter of public figures. And if you've watched the videos, you'll see she's not ready for any television station, even if it's in Bumscrew Idaho. There is absolutely nothing that Iv'e quoted about her or from her that wasn't already on a website. If you don't like posts about her, I suggest you don't read them. Just a thought.
Don't everyone jump to subscribe to Katie's videos all at once!
Cecelia, I went to the link and viewed some of her videos and read some of her comments. This girl is flat out not ready, much less not ready for prime time.
If I had to guess I would say she is pursuing a hobby which KO then uses to say she is a 'freelance cable producer'. Perhaps to deflect any innuendos or criticisms of the personal arrangement they have.
As for the way down in the gutter language and slurs I agree. But from comments about Katy Tur to and about high profile Repub women and even to you and me there are many men on both sides that use the anonymity afforded by the internet to indulge in language that they refrain from in their personal lives except all male groups. Is it embarrassment or the fear of getting the tar beaten out of them by the women's male protectors?
If we are going to participate I guess it is something that we are going to have get used to and give it the attention it deserves, none.
Grammie
Remember, Olbermann does not have a journalism degee either (has a BA in communications). Goodness she is pretty bad. though. I do not understand why she feels she has to do this, can't Olbermann just get her a job at MSNBC? I guess she thinks this makes her legit. Yikes! One thing is for sure, they are perfect for eachother. Two vapid & empty headed blowhards.
Cecelia, Tur posted these videos online herself for the sole purpose of seeking comments on them. The quote that I used in my initial post is directly from her. Olbermann has referenced her so many times in interviews and on-air that I've lost count. She's also the daughter of public figures. And if you've watched the videos, you'll see she's not ready for any television station, even if it's in Bumscrew Idaho. There is absolutely nothing that Iv'e quoted about her or from her that wasn't already on a website. If you don't like posts about her, I suggest you don't read them. Just a thought.
Posted by: Brandon at May 12, 2007 3:22 PM
Brandon,
Being the daughter of people who are successful, or being in a relationship with a public figure who mentions he's in a relationship with you, or having an ex-boyfriend post pictures of you on his site, does not give you, Brandon, the moral coinage to make dirty quips about a woman simply because you don't like her man.
Olbermann has nothing to do with it. What about what she might feel?
Weren't you just calling Olbermann mysognistic for just the same type of behavior?
Yeah, you're right there's nothing I can do about it but not read it. I know I'm even inviting puerile comments towards her, from some segments, for even voicing this. But I'm going on record that this is ugly and unfair and I wouldn't want it done your daughter, no matter who she dated or what website she had touting her work and her professional credentials.
"In vernacular I think even you will understand, guys:
You suck!"
Here, here, Cecilia is on the mark.
Leave his family and friends alone.
Criticize Olbermann's public work and not his private matters. Even IF he does talk about it.
This is really irresponsible, Mr. Cox.
This exemplifies everything that has gone wrong with political discourse, especially on the internet. One side does it and that's an excuse for the other side to do it time ten.
Olbermann is a lousy news anchor. Period.
Anything else about him should be off limits.
Grow up.
Grammie,
I don't have any problem with folks criticising her work, though the only interest in that really is due to her love interest.
This isn't just people acting like jerks on a comment board. If you'll read the last comment in Brandon's blog about her work, that's on the front page of this site, you'll see what I mean.
I think one or two pictures of her would have been enough too. For goodness sakes is there anyone here too immature to imagine that they, their wife, their daughter might have gotten drunken or silly pictures snapped of them at college, that they wished weren't out there? That they might be the beneficiary of revenge by the ole college boyfriend?
Just because you can do something, does it mean you should abandon any discretion and do it, when you know the sort of attention it's going to engender? It's not right. I would have thought better judgement and integrity would have prevailed.
I've said my piece. I'm finished now. Take it or leave it.
Ce---ce---lia your breaking my heart.....your breaking my confidence daily...Oh Ce---ce---lia I'm down on my knees, I'm begging you PLLLEEEEEASE STOP READING THE KATY TUR THREADS!
Cecelia, Ms. Tur is a public figure, she has public figure parents, has a public figure boyfriend and wants a job on the PUBLIC airwaves. She is fair game. It may not be right, but in this era of celebrity journalism she IS fair game.
As for the cautionary tale of "silly photos" welcome to the YouTube Generation. They are barely a year old, they were posted in real time, and since she uses a TOPLESS NAKED WOMAN as an icon to represent herself, I doubt she asked the boyfriend to take them down, once they broke up.
"Cecelia, Ms. Tur is a public figure, she has public figure parents,"
Gee, I thought this was Olbermann watch.
About Keith Olbermann.
Not about his friends. Not about his family. Not about his dog.
Cecelia, Brandon and B Coates are the same person. I sure can be slow and backwards sometimes.
I know what you meant and I railed against the same thing in the past. Actually, I think it gives the big wimps a spur to more of the same.
Perhaps technology will one day allow some big strong family men from the woman treated that way to jump through their monitor and beat the living crap out of them. Now that is a daydream that I could go for.
Grammie
"Gee, I thought this was Olbermann watch."
About Keith Olbermann..."who goes on and on and on and on and on about the future MRS OLBERMANN". So the name will work out in the long run.
Cecelia, Ms. Tur is a public figure, she has public figure parents, has a public figure boyfriend and wants a job on the PUBLIC airwaves. She is fair game. It may not be right, but in this era of celebrity journalism she IS fair game.
As for the cautionary tale of "silly photos" welcome to the YouTube Generation. They are barely a year old, they were posted in real time, and since she uses a TOPLESS NAKED WOMAN as an icon to represent herself, I doubt she asked the boyfriend to take them down, once they broke up.
Posted by: Saved by the Cats! at May 12, 2007 5:05 PM
Katy Tur is not a public figure simply because her parents and her boyfriend are successful.
If having a professional website makes you a public figure, then why don't we post some of your friend's pictures who have such sites, and make dirty comments about where their talent really lies, etc.
My father was an attorney and part-time professional photographer. Among his portfolio were nude pictures. His books and magazines on photography included some too. If you happen to go to a museum, STC, you might see a few there, as well.
Grow up the hell up.
..."who goes on and on and on and on and on about the future MRS OLBERMANN". So the name will work out in the long run."
So that means people can make fun of his future wife?
Make fun of Olbermann. Not his future wife.
If Ms. Tur was not dating Olbermann, would we even be talking about her?
The only reason people are making fun of Ms. Tur - who did NOTHING to warrant these attacks - is to somehow get Olbermann.
Ms. Tur didn't invite this. Olbermann did.
So go after Olbermann.
This is really cheap to attack someone's friends because you don't like that person.
Ladies, did you rally against the KKK link and photo? I can not quite remember, but I don't think so. We all have our threshold and will make are own decisions if we should cross it or not. None of us can really make that decision for someone else.
The original link to Ms. Tur was already in a comment thread here (from mid 2006), I thought the dopey doggie photo was a stupid, misleading annoying trick to drive up traffic to OW. Perhpas I crossed the line by providing an updated link, but whats done is done.
"My father was an attorney and part-time professional photographer. Among his portfolio were nude pictures. His books and magazines on photography included some too. If you happen to go to a museum, STC, you might see a few there, as well.
Grow up the hell up."
Posted by: Cecelia at May 12, 2007 5:17 PM
Sorry if I don't get too upset worrying about threads and comments about and from privilege rich girls.
I meant "privileged rich girls."
BTW: topless naked women make a bunch of sense for museum art, not a whole lot of sense for your "video" resume.
"None of us can really make that decision for someone else. "
But we sure as hell can condemn that decision.
Final word: Going after people's friends - FRIENDS - because you don't like that person is cheap. Real cheap.
Imagine if this were you?
Ms. Tur has done nothing to you or me or anyone else on this site. She deserves none of these attacks.
Keith Olbermann's journalism and his journalistic decisions deserve being criticized. That's what this site is supposed to be about.
Who his future wife or who his friends are are absolutely irrelevant to his professional performance.
[all of the above anonymous posts are from me; I forgot to sign in]
The karma bites chick he had a one-night stand with is much hotter than his present day Lolita.
http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r101/karmabite/
Cats I have a slightly different view from Cecelia.
I think that KO makes her a fairly bona fide public figure by bringing her so prominently into the limelight for his own personal reasons. Combine that with his longtime penchant for personally nasty and irrelevant comments and many people are going to respond just as they have.
But, having said that, a lot in these two threads have gone way over the line. There is nothing that she has done to deserve some of the comments themselves and the language that has been used to express it makes it worse. And nothing excuses, to my mind, the pigs who make it a habit to wallow in the swill as they do. We are not talking about every comment made.
More to the point that both of us have made is the inexcusable nature of many men using the filthiest language imaginable as a matter of course and/or directed at certain women in particular.
I am no shrinking violet and can be sarcastic, insulting and acidic and I'm not complaining about that being directed back at me.
But this other stuff is different. I can tell you the date time and place I first heard/was the recipient of f**k. It was afternoon of Mardi Gras day two days before the birth of my first son at the locked front door of a family friend's apartment on Royal St. I was twenty six years old. Sheltered? No, it was still an age when women never used such language and men didn't use it in front of or to any women. And never discussed women in the way it is done now except strictly in private groups of friends.
Remember that ad "You've come a long way, baby" Some of those paths forward have been detours into some nasty foul pits.
And this is pertinent, I think, to KO because he is being used as the justification for it.
Well, should I perhaps batten down the hatches before the flame throwers crawl out from under their rocks.
Grammie
But we sure as hell can condemn that decision. Posted by: Ohboy at May 12, 2007 5:47 PM
Fair enough. I should have stopped coming here when Cox posted the KKK thread & link. I did for a while. I was trying to justify the Katy postings in some way, but now I feel terrible for providing the updated link and finding it funny. I should know better. I consider myself a feminist for christs sakes.
Thanks Grammie for providing clarification. I appreciate your clear headed comment. I guess my issues with "spolied rich kids" reared its ugly head. Sorry, I wish I could take the link back.
"Well, should I perhaps batten down the hatches before the flame throwers crawl out from under their rocks."
Well, I'm with you. That makes three.
I've always had a belief: You can attack me. You can take me on. For the most part, I let it slide.
But don't ever f***ing mess with my family or friends.
I can make fun of my family and friends. Because, of course, it's not done out of malice.
But, buddy, no one else can. No way.
I agree about the nastiness and it’s inappropriate. But, a pic or two is fair game. Olby brought this on by frequently mentioning the gf, so of course his hardcore fans would want to see the one he chose over them. Bob said a regular search that lands readers on this site is "Katy Tur" and "Katy Tur photo" which means people have been looking.
KO’s comments about others are often very mean. For example, the runaway bride. She was not a public figure but a troubled individual whose private affair went public when a police search brought her to the forefront. So as a newsman he should report the event and be done with it instead of mocking her, her fiancé, and their religious convictions about abstinence. Olby attracts these caustic comments for good reason. Too bad it shadows those close to him.
And I agree with Grammie, he has his own reasons for bringing KT into this. I believe he thinks having a live-in gf makes him look normal after the fan-sex episode. Frankly, he would have been better off having a picture of the two of them of his choice with one of the many articles in which he made a reference to her. Then there would be no need to find others pics. Maybe he’d better get a better publicist.
But at least the loons had something to do today, checking out all the pods at the Current TV site.
Cats, it was a link to Aryan Nation . I didn't agree with your take on the link being there. I also linked to it, read their short blurb and got out quick.
Correct me if I'm wrong in any of my recollections, but that was one of several links in a roundup on the Imus debacle. Considering the subject was racism I thought it was appropriate.
I also didn't see that the link somehow gave the impression that R Cox or OW could be construed as endorsing or condoning those cretins.
It had the opposite effect on me. The jolt of the picture combined with the relatively well written, straight forward and concise tone of the statement was a bit scary.
This group is a very small ineffectual way out there fringe with no power or influence. We can't dismiss them out of hand because history is full of such groups rising to power, from the early Christians (a cult, per the first century Romans, way out there), to the Nazis in early 1920 Germany. to the growing German Bund in our own country in the 1930s and very early 1940s.
Groups such as these can sometimes rise to complete power or become large enough to have some influence and power or die obscure deaths.
So, I actually think the link R Cox posted to The Aryan Nation served a good purpose. Pretend they don't exist and one day we may wake up with a king sized rattler slithering around the country.
Grammie
Cats, after I went to all the time and toil to produce my masterful essay on The Aryan Nation you are making noises like you are leaving us for good.
I hope not. You are a much valued poster here.
Grammie
This group is a very small ineffectual way out there fringe with no power or influence. We can't dismiss them out of hand because history is full of such groups rising to power, from the early Christians (a cult, per the first century Romans, way out there), to the Nazis in early 1920 Germany. to the growing German Bund in our own country in the 1930s and very early 1940s.
Groups such as these can sometimes rise to complete power or become large enough to have some influence and power or die obscure deaths.
So, I actually think the link R Cox posted to The Aryan Nation served a good purpose. Pretend they don't exist and one day we may wake up with a king sized rattler slithering around the country.
Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at May 12, 2007 6:28 PM
Maybe your spectacles need adjusting.
That king size rattler is alive and well in the Constitution defying Bush Administration.
But then again, they're doing exactly what you want them to be doing.
The karma bites chick he had a one-night stand with is much hotter than his present day Lolita.
http://s142.photobucket.com/albums/r101/karmabite/
Posted by: at May 12, 2007 5:54 PM
Yowsa! Amazing :O
Keith has no idea what to do with a beautiful woman.
If that's the karma bites chick she is definitely hot. And those naughty photos look pretty tame.
Katy is fair game for Dan Patrick. Between "take your daughter to work day" and "are you engaged?" he likes to get his digs in. Then there's the time Dan mentioned the only reason she is with "an old toad" is because "you have a TV show" and even had KO repeating that comment.
Only Chicken Blogger (hey, Chicken, did you know a chicken's brain is the size of a pea) we can always count on you to miss the point and go for the stupidly absurd.
"That king size rattler is alive and well in the Constitution defying Bush Administration."
The Aryan Nation taking over the Presidency is the equivalent to the GWB Administration.
Ohboy, I think we may have the worst case of BDS we've ever seen. I had no idea it could progress to such malignant proportions.
Grammie
"Ohboy, I think we may have the worst case of BDS we've ever seen. I had no idea it could progress to such malignant proportions."
Agreed. This case belongs in the next issue of the New England Journal of Medicine.
Doctors from around the world need to be informed of this case. It'll be the talk of the next AMA convention for sure.
Sorry if I don't get too upset worrying about threads and comments about and from privilege rich girls.
Posted by: Save the Cats! at May 12, 2007 5:40 PM
I meant "privileged rich girls."
BTW: topless naked women make a bunch of sense for museum art, not a whole lot of sense for your "video" resume.
Posted by: Save the Cats! at May 12, 2007 5:44 PM
So because my father was a littel country attorney, *I'm a "priviledged rich girl".
People who have done you no harm personally or politically aren't worth conveying basic dignity towards because they are rich?
What sort of marxist crap is that?
Why don't quit while you're merely being stupid.
BTW, I don't remember a KKK picture or link. Was the link aimed at Olbermann's Nazi salute thing? Did you protest it? If so, did someone tell you they don't value the opinion of stupid people who happen to like cats?
Olbermann never mentioned a single girlfriend in any interview he ever gave prior to 2006. Then the Karmabites story hit the fan and then when it was clear he'd suffered some damage to his "image", Olbermann pulled a girlfriend out of his ass, declared her his one true love and began to talk about her incessently on the radio show and in print interviews. Certainly convenient timing for him don't you think? And especially seeing how he was in the midst of renegotiating his contract with MSNBC at the time. I've never been able to figure out who was using who in this relationship but it's clear than a 22-year old girl (and she was 22 when they took up with one another, and it's a matter of PUBLIC RECORD that she dumped her boyfriend to pursue Olbermann) wouldn't be with a man older than her father unless it was for fame or money as Olbermann is hardly a Mel Gibson or even a Tom Hanks type. She states on her PUBLIC blog that she is looking to break into the industry. She invited comments on her videos. And what we're doing here is commenting on her videos. And if the conversation steers off into her "personal" life, than blame Olbermann, he was the one who chose to make his personal life public when he began yapping incessently about this young woman in every interview he could give.
Olbermann has a long history of making fun of ALL women. Perhaps this is his, I don't know, KARMA for all of those names he's slung out at women both famous and not over the years. Maybe it will be a good lesson for him to know what it feels like to see someone you love and care about thrust into the public eye and made fun of as he has done to so many people and continues to do on a nightly basis. I'm sorry Cecelia, I feel no sympathy for Olbermann or his "girlfriend". And I find your whining about this to be more than a bit hypocritical.
Perhaps technology will one day allow some big strong family men from the woman treated that way to jump through their monitor and beat the living crap out of them. Now that is a daydream that I could go for.
Grammie
Amen!
And I agree with Grammie, he has his own reasons for bringing KT into this. I believe he thinks having a live-in gf makes him look normal after the fan-sex episode. Frankly, he would have been better off having a picture of the two of them of his choice with one of the many articles in which he made a reference to her. Then there would be no need to find others pics. Maybe he’d better get a better publicist.
But at least the loons had something to do today, checking out all the pods at the Current TV site.
Posted by: at May 12, 2007 6:28 PM
With this sort of logic, sports players saying "hi, mom" on television, or Joe Scarborough telling funny stories about his parents makes those family members public figures and therefore suitable targets for anyone fan of a rival team or critic of Scarborough Country.
Fame costs Ceceila and it costs not only the person pursuing it but those around them. I didn't make those rules, they just ARE. Olbermann has utilizied Tur for his own uses, both public and personal. She surely has no problem whatsoever in posting her videos and inviting comment on them on the CurrentTV website. Again tell me what the "crime" here is exactly. Methinks you doth protest a bit too much. And for allegations that I'm a mysognistic because you think I'm attacking ONE woman, well, I don't have a history of attacking ALL women like Olbermann does. You know better than that, but for whatever reason, you've decided to cast your lot in with the Olbyloons on this one. So be it. We just happen to disagree about what's fair game and what's not. I'd say that Cox has decided she is fair game and you're fighting a losing battle here.
Fair enough. I should have stopped coming here when Cox posted the KKK thread & link. I did for a while. I was trying to justify the Katy postings in some way, but now I feel terrible for providing the updated link and finding it funny. I should know better. I consider myself a feminist for christs sakes.
Thanks Grammie for providing clarification. I appreciate your clear headed comment. I guess my issues with "spolied rich kids" reared its ugly head. Sorry, I wish I could take the link back.
Posted by: Save the Cats! at May 12, 2007 6:09 PM
Well, you didn't post it on the site, but I wish you could take it back too. I have a daughter and I'm not going to play nice about things like that.
As for leaving, I hope not, but that's something you have to decide for yourself.
Cecelia, read my post @ 6:28 PM for the background.
Grammie
Brandon,
What I've always wondered is why Cox has cast his lot in with you.
Does the fact that Katy Tur is a person come into your mind at all or is she just some thing that Olbermann owns? Keith has talked about his mother MANY times. Why don't you go find a picture of her so we can ridicule it?
People have professional sites in order for people to view their work, numbskull. They are inviting thoughtful attention and comments about it, not puerient interest and comments about how their talents must lie elsewhere ....leer...leer... based on some animus towards their love interest.
Ceceila are you perhaps jealous that I was asked to blog here and you weren't?
And why don't you ask Olbermann the next time he makes fun of someone if the fact that they are a person ever enters into his mind? You seem to forget that a primary mission of Olbermannwatch is to use the same exact tactics he uses on his newscasts.
You know, I had no idea how big of a fan of his you truly were until today. What do you know-maybe some of the propaganda BS spewed here on a daily basis by Olbermann's deranged fan base HAVE managed to convert you.
Brandon, I think you are missing the point from both Cecelia and me, even though we have some differences in the details.
If you missed it read my post @ %:59 to Cats. I address the differences and commonalities.
Grammie
I'm sorry Cecelia, I feel no sympathy for Olbermann or his "girlfriend". And I find your whining about this to be more than a bit hypocritical.
Posted by: KAF at May 12, 2007 7:21 PM
I find justifying the mistreatment of one person via blaming another person a far more egregious action than hypocrisy, KAF.
Ceceila are you perhaps jealous that I was asked to blog here and you weren't?
And why don't you ask Olbermann the next time he makes fun of someone if the fact that they are a person ever enters into his mind? You seem to forget that a primary mission of Olbermannwatch is to use the same exact tactics he uses on his newscasts.
You know, I had no idea how big of a fan of his you truly were until today. What do you know-maybe some of the propaganda BS spewed here on a daily basis by Olbermann's deranged fan base HAVE managed to convert you.
Posted by: Brandon at May 12, 2007 7:46 PM
Brandon, I was asked by Bob to blog here long before you came on the scene. Lest you think you're Einstein and Glenn Reynolds rolled into one, Bob has asked many people to do that.
Please stop trying to justify your bad behavior by pointing at Olbermann's bad behavior. That might have worked with your mother or something, but anyone who didn't go through labor with you, ain't buying.
I make no apologies for this blog entry or for the comments I've made within. If you don't like it, all I can say is that it's not my mission in life or on this board to make everyone happy with what I write. You've voiced your opinions and you're certainly entitled to them, I just don't happen to share them. Others do. That's the way the world turns and it would be very boring if it didn't.
You know, I had no idea how big of a fan of his you truly were until today. What do you know-maybe some of the propaganda BS spewed here on a daily basis by Olbermann's deranged fan base HAVE managed to convert you.
Posted by: Brandon at May 12, 2007 7:46 PM
I tell you what the propaganda from Olbermann and his fan base hasn't done, Brandon. It hasn't made me able to justify doing something wrong merely because Olbermann has done it.
You think about that, homeboy.
Cecelia, you said that Tur had posted her videos on a "professional" website. No, that's a website for amateurs and it's very obvious from watching those videos she posted that she's very much an amateur.
Let's see: Olbermann ridicules women and he is condemned for his, if not misogyny, then his sexist way of ridiculing them.
So, because Olberman does something wrong, it's acceptable to do the SAME types of things he does.
Only to other women.
He ridicules Ann Coulter. That's wrong.
We ridicule Katy Tur. That's okay.
I'm not following the logic behind this.
Because there isn't any.
KAF, Brandon and any guys. it is not only a matter of Katy Tur being fair game for everyone to say something about her. It is also what is being said and what gutter language is being used to say it.
I agree that KO and she herself have placed her in the public domain to a degree.
But some are using that as a justification for the foulest comments couched in the foulest gutter terms. And that is a general trait that many women posters are subjected to on a daily basis.
When I read some of the vileness that pollutes our public discourse I often wonder if these men say the same things to their Moms, Gramms, daughters and sisters. Or, if another man said to their female loved ones would if they would just shrug their shoulders and say c'est la vie.
It is the excess that we are objecting to, not the benign comment about her or stronger comments about him.
I am starting to think that this is a right brain left brain male female type of thing.
Grammie
Cecelia, you said that Tur had posted her videos on a "professional" website. No, that's a website for amateurs and it's very obvious from watching those videos she posted that she's very much an amateur.
Posted by: KAF at May 12, 2007 8:00 PM
Hellloo.... You act as though her work was posted here because this is a site on the art of video shorts!
Like the reprehensible Ann Coulter is not fair game.
You people really are idiots.
I am starting to think that this is a right brain left brain male female type of thing.
Grammie
Posted by: Janet Hawkins at May 12, 2007 8:05 PM
I don't think so. It's a we have a brain, they don't, kind of thing.
Well whopee for you and your high moral standards there Cecelia. Just don't hurt yourself patting yourself on the back now you hear?
As I've said here once already and will say for the last time in this thread once again, I offer no apologies nor do I have a single bit of remorse or regret about posting the link to her CurrentTV page or about anything else I've said about her in this thread.
Since Bob has left this blog entry up along with the similar one on Tur's photos up as well, I'm going to assume he has no problem with it either but I can't say for sure. I'm sure if he does, he'll let me know.
There's obviously an interest in her, and how did her name ever surface to begin with? From Olbermann. But if you're going to blame me for that, so be it. I have as much control over what you say and blame me for as you do over what I post here. It's not my problem if you don't agree with something I've said in a comment or posted as a blog entry. Just don't expect me to apologize for what I've written and do not expect me to stop doing posts in the future on this subject or similar ones.
There's obviously an interest in her, and how did her name ever surface to begin with? From Olbermann. But if you're going to blame me for that, so be it. I have as much control over what you say and blame me for as you do over what I post here. It's not my problem if you don't agree with something I've said in a comment or posted as a blog entry. Just don't expect me to apologize for what I've written and do not expect me to stop doing posts in the future on this subject or similar ones.
Posted by: Brandon at May 12, 2007 8:11 PM
Let me reasure you, Brandon. I have never for one minute expected you to act like anything but the clueless little punk that you are.
"Like the reprehensible Ann Coulter is not fair game.
You people really are idiots."
It's perfectly fine for a news anchor to go Ann Coulter? How about Maureen Dowd? Or Nancy Pelosi?
It's okay for news anchors to attack them too? Using sexist language? Ridiculing their looks?
Knucklehead. You're just a complete knucklehead. Where people have their heads, you have a gigantic, bulbous (and growing) knuckle.
Knuckle+head. Knucklehead.
And I agree with Grammie, he has his own reasons for bringing KT into this. I believe he thinks having a live-in gf makes him look normal after the fan-sex episode. Frankly, he would have been better off having a picture of the two of them of his choice with one of the many articles in which he made a reference to her. Then there would be no need to find others pics. Maybe he’d better get a better publicist.
But at least the loons had something to do today, checking out all the pods at the Current TV site.
Posted by: at May 12, 2007 6:28 PM
With this sort of logic, sports players saying "hi, mom" on television, or Joe Scarborough telling funny stories about his parents makes those family members public figures and therefore suitable targets for anyone fan of a rival team or critic of Scarborough Country.
Cecelia, I have no idea what this response means in reference to this statement. anon 6:28 was pretty harmless, not nasty. It's natural to be curious about people. For example, last week Lou Dobbs was on 60 Min. His wife has nothing to do with his job but it was interesting to see her on the interview. It was in a situation he controlled. I'm sure Olbermann's fans were very interested in seeing a photo of KT. Since their relationship is not a secret he could have put one out there that he controlled. He's gotten a lot of press lately, articles that he's participated in with pictures and video, where he mentioned her over and over, so why not have a picture. These party links have been around the internet in various forums. There was even a link on OW last summer. And there were plenty of nasty remarks then, too. But I agree it's time to get past the gutter comments.
Curious,
I mention my feelings about pictures of Tur in my post at 4:42pm.
It's perfectly fine for a news anchor to go Ann Coulter? How about Maureen Dowd? Or Nancy Pelosi?
Posted by: Ohboy at May 12, 2007 8:17 PM
Now Oh Boy is comparing these three women !
Dowd is an award winning writer. Pelosi is a ground breaking first woman Speaker of the House( with a 56% approval rating)
And Ann Coulter is a laughing stock who's been fired from every job she's ever had !
Oh Boy, still shooting blanks !
Oh My !
Oh BOY , with not very much upstairs, is now calling someone a knucklehead !
These RWer's just get sillier by the day !
"Now Oh Boy is comparing these three women !"
Oh, I get it. You're pretending to act like a fool. I was taking you seriously.
A real fool wouldn't understand that news anchors aren't supposed to go after anyone personally. They aren't supposed to engage in ad hominem attacks against public figures no matter who that public figure is.
Sexist remarks about a women's looks or her alleged sexual practices is, of course, not permitted by news anchors.
It doesn't matter who that women is. Professional standards in journalism would prevent a news anchor from engaging in such tactics.
Only a real fool wouldn't understand that.
But since you're only pretending to be a fool, I erred in making this point.
It's hard to distinguish between real fools and fake ones among the Olbermann apologists.
Didn't Katy Tur put herself out there by publishing an article about why news anchors shouldn't be orange, not to mention stating that Korean newswomen should not be blond.
Oh BOy sees his party falling apart, his president reaching Nixonian approval numbers,so he lashs out at KO.
If it makes you feel like a big boy, Oh Boy, knock your socks off.
Does it feel like your whole life is coming apart at the seams?
You haven't seen anything yet !
This simpleton is in for mnay more disappointments and anguish.
And we'll be enjoying it, fool ! !
We get it Cecelia. You're pissed at Brandon. You're pissed at Cox. You're pissed at the posting of the party photos. You're pissed at the links to Tur's videos and you're pissed at the comments made about Katy Tur. So why do you continue to read this thread? You're really beginning to come off as a humorless shrew and btw, that's not a female bashing statement because I'm a female myself.
And that's another thing. You're complaining here about males "attacking" Tur but you don't seem above hurling out personal insults at those you disagree with. So it's okay for you to throw our insults and attack others but not for someone to make a snarky comment about Ms. Tur? I'm missing the logic there and I still think it makes you a Grade A Hypocrite to criticize someone for something when you turn around and do the same to those you disagree with.
"Oh BOy sees his party falling apart, his president reaching Nixonian approval numbers,so he lashs out at KO."
Good comeback.
Right on point.
Completely relevant to my post.
Filled with facts and logical thinking. You sure took apart my point.
Like I said: you have a giant bulbous knuckle on top of your neck where people have heads.
Knuckle+head= knucklehead.
"You're really beginning to come off as a humorless shrew"
Best description I've ever heard depicting Cecilia yet !
Right on, sista !
KAF,
Do you REALLY think the point I'm making is some generalized statement that people shouldn't insult one another?
Goper, we are all waiting to learn from you which women in the public domain can be berated, degraded and tossed around like a sexual volleyball just because they are the wrong sort of women. Don't forget to include your list of sacrosanct icons that can only be approached on bended knee, head tilted downward with votive candles to lay at their feet.
List one we know includes Ann Coulter.
List two we know includes MoDo and Pelosi.
Oh, and do let us know which list your mother, grandmother, sister, wife and/or daughter belong in.
Grammie
"Goper, we are all waiting to learn from you which women in the public domain can be berated, degraded and tossed "
You've cornered him with that question.
There's no anwer he can come up with that won't make him look like a complete fraud.
But since he can't come up with an answer, he'll respond with: "What about Bin Laden?" or "Where's the WMD?" or "How about Bush's approval ratings?"
Just wait.
Cecelia, I stand corrected. I don't THINK you're a humorless shrew, now I know you are. You just don't seem to get that the second you began to use the same terms to throw at others that you were complaining about others using, you lost your argument here. You really do need to chill out on this subject. You're lost all perspective. It's pretty clear that Tur will continue to be a topic of discussion here, if you don't like it, you know what you can do and where you can go (elsewhere).
And you know what? I'd really like a list of who it's okay to make fun of and who it's not, both male and female. There seems to be a real disagreement in that area. I say EVERYONE is fair game up to and including even old Cecelia.
KAF, it depends a great on why and HOW.
I am getting tired of saying the same thing in a new and innovative way. So, please read my post @ 9:10 PM. It is the most on point to your 9:25 PM post.
Grammie
I thought this website was run by Bob Cox, I didn't realize that a rules committee had been appointed. I must have missed that meeting.