Oh my gosh it is so warm and comfy in Joe Wilson's lap. And he smells good too. I think the beard makes him extra credible.

It's another man-crush lovefest for Olby. First it was Big Al, now it's Joe Wilson. Did you hear Olby stammer and slobber when he congratulated Joe W.? Gee, do you think Olby is biased? Do impartial "journalists" congratulate a guest on another man's conviction as if it were a victory they supported 100 percent? The air is thin and impartiality has evaporated on Olbyplanet. Good luck with that, Brian Williams.

First Joe Wilson and next Larry O'. I have died and gone to lunatic bias heaven. Top it off with a little Al Gore and Michael Moore double feature and then I can die a happy man.

Olbermann, take it easy. I'm not sure your heart can stand all of the excitement.

And where is Joe Scarborough tonight? Dan Abrams is taking his place. Is Joe in dutch for his "working the pole" comment about Fred Thompson's wife? Fred is live on H&C right now.

How'd the show go tonight? I was watching the comedy channel...er CNN...the latest Republican debate. These people are all a joke....except for the one they want to kick out of the party.

But it's already proven...a 'joke' can certainly be president in America today!

No, I asked where he was. Don't care what flip-flop Joe has to say otherwise. Unless he gets spanked for making off-color comments. The ghost of Imus must have visited him.

Rope,
You wouldn't know reason or facts if either took a dump on your face. You have about as much of pragmatic view as your parents' basement will allow. Put the honey bear down. Stop the Olby porn site you're creating and get some sun. It actually comes up every day contrary to your "sky is falling" beliefs. Oh yeah and get a job. Stop mooching off your parents.

"He (Scarborough) displayed courage for seeing the facts and changing his mind."

Ropeadope is a fool. He seems blissfully unaware that Joe's "conversion" happened to coincide with Danny Boy Abrams takeover as GM of MSLSD. Danny Boy decided to retool MSNBC from a left leaning, soft on Dems network to a shrill mouthpiece for the far left fringe. This meant there was no room for anyone who would present commentary that would contradict Danny Boy's plan to disseminate Bush hating propaganda. Thus, the "new" Scarborough, who has sold out to Danny Boy because he enjoys the spotlight more than he enjoys unemployment or starting over somewhere else.

Where did I say that Iraq was a success? You freakin moron. Assumptions are like assholes and you are one.

"Hank is and has been one of the biggest fools at this site for some time now.Any person who uses their head, comes to grip with reality, or weighs the facts and comes to a conclusion has alterior motives according
to Tank !"

Ropeadope's erudite commentary and critique does much to advance the condition of Western Civilization. We are greatly in your debt . . . or greatly in debt to "Tank" , whoever the hell he is, unless of course "Tank" has "alterior" motives.

LOL!

I missed tonight's game show. Did O'Donnell again predict that "Karl Rove" would be "indicted" for "revealing" the "identity" of the worthless, one-time federal bureaucrat Valerie Plame? Did he again predict that Joe Lieberman would abandon his campaign for the U.S. Senate? Did he again predict that John Kerry would "win" the 2004 presidential election?

Richard Armitage is the person who outed Valerie Plame. Not a liberal in America even cares that Armitage faces no criminal consequences for his act. Why? Because Armitage does not support the war in Iraq, and is therefore, not fair game.

"This woman's career was ruined by the really worthless , lying Bush Ad."

No her career was ruined by her husband who published a fib-filled NYTimes editorial calling attention to himself as the person who had been sent to Niger. Mr. Plame Wilson was spectacularly unqualified to be sent on such a mission thus raising questions concerning how the hell he ended up being recommended. All roads led to his wife Valerie, as he knew they would. But BDS had gotten the better of Mr. Plame Wilson and so he vented his editorial spleen and the natural result (his wife's outing) followed.

Your buddies at the WaPo have said as much, look it up.

Once again Plame was not by the letter of the a covert agent..therefore revealing her name was not against the law.

Plus if it was then Armitage is the one that should have been charged.it is very dishonest for KO,Wilson,the Left and the MSM to keep going on about this without actually going after the guy who leaked the name to begin with.

The Libby trial is just one big joke and Bush should pardon him.

Ms. Plame was indeed a covert agent -- that's been confirmed by people who know more than mlong. It's clear that prosecution under the poorly-written law is quite difficult, and that's why Mr. Armitage was not charged. That doesn't mean it's ok to lie to federal investigators, which a jury and a judge agreed Mr. Lewis did. I didn't like it when Mr. Clinton lied to investigators about a purely personal matter and it's quite a bit worse when a federal employee lies about this type of matter.

Its not a personal matter if it is in testimony related to a sexual harassment charge you shallow incompetent dolt.

Keith stroked Mister Valerie Plame
On Bushies they try to lay blame
But Val's just a ho
Dye job is day-glow
They got rid of one worthless dame

Can anyone explain to me the significance of Olby in the tub?

Crap, I missed last night's show, sure that the great Johnny $ would provide a stellar recap. Robert, where's Johnny? Is he one and done?

"Can anyone explain to me the significance of Olby in the tub?"

John Gibson of Fox used to sub for Olby in his previous stint on MSLSD. According to Gibson, Olby would sometimes refuse to come to work because he was upset about the unfavorable coverage of Bill Clinton. It seems that KO would take to the bathtub and pout during such times.

Why are you girls still whining that Plame was not covert? Do you have such faulty memories that you forget that Bush promised to bring the leaker to justice? If the leaker did nothing wrong, what sense does it make...

Moreover, outing Plame shut down a loose nukes program in Africa. It did an incredible amount of harm...

GOP Hopefuls Fault Bush on Iraq, Style
By GLEN JOHNSON, Associated Press Writer

5 hours ago

MANCHESTER, N.H. - President Bush drew sporadic, startling criticism Tuesday night from Republican White House hopefuls unhappy with his handling of the Iraq war, his diplomatic style and his approach to immigration.

It appears as though 'Bush Derangement Syndrome' has spread throughout the Republican party.

It's an epidemic!

"According to Gibson..."

All you need to know to discount the rest...

"Moreover, outing Plame shut down a loose nukes program in Africa. It did an incredible amount of harm..."

Even if she was outed (which is questionable in light of evidence that it was generally known that she was CIA prior to her liar husband's grandiose accusations aginst the Bush administration), the person to be blamed for that circumstance is her husband (see my post as 12:43).

hank,

Plame's husband was correct about the yellow-cake deal. It was the Bush administration who outed Plame. Blaming her husband only makes you girls look like bigger whiners...

Says ropesucker: "You're right, crash. The Iraq war is a glorious success and we're bringing the civil war in that country to an end.

Facts to you are what you hear on Fox News.
I get it !"

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Do you know how incredibly ignorant and stupid people like you sound when you blame FNC for the worlds problems? Have you ever watched FNC or do you formulate your opinion of FNC from Rosie? It looks like me a channel so biased to the right would not let a Bob Beckel or a Juan WIlliams shoot their mouths off almost every night. Damn you are stupid. You could not lick the ass on Simple Simon.

Yeah, the war in Iraq is tough. Sure, we should just quit because they are fighting back. Why are you complaining? You ain't paying a price. You are just another loud mouth partisan using the war to get at our President. Why don;t you move to Venuzuela of Cuba or the Sudan or Iran.

Where ya at baldheaded rat and your proof. If you shit in your left hand and filled the other up with your proof you would have more than enough shit to rub all over that silly face of yours. I haven't seen a liberal yet only exceeded by some of them Arabs in the butt ugly department. Don't let me run you out of here.

It must be tough being a fat, bald headed old fart living on a Social Security check once a month.

From the office of the Special Counsel, son:

"Prior to July 14, 2003, Valerie Wilson’s employment status was classified. Prior to that date, her affiliation with the CIA was not common knowledge outside the intelligence community. Disclosure of classified information about an individual’s employment by the CIA has the potential to damage the national security in ways that range from preventing that individual’s future use in a covert capacity, to compromising intelligence-gathering methods and operations, and endangering the safety of CIA employees and those who deal with them..."

Says ropesucker: ""It actually comes up every day contrary to your "sky is falling" beliefs. "

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You know what moron, George Bush and it's leaders are trying to protect us. Fuck you for criticizing the men that are protecting my family. Sooner or later one fo these moron liberal politicians, some federal judge willie appointed or some liberal media are going to contribute/allow us to get hit again. When that time comes, I will be more than willing to participate in a public hanging.

It is the liberal that uses fear idiot. They are the experts at chicken little politics. They use Social Security, welfare, civil rights, abortion, rich v. poor, the haves v. the have nots, big oil, big drug, religious right......................

You know how people get rich, they got educated and they have one helluva work ethic, something you are short on by a mile in both attributes. You are an appeasers looking for a hand out. Hell, it gives me great satisfaction the world is eating you alive. Damn I hope gas goes to $10/gallon.

""Prior to July 14, 2003, Valerie Wilson’s employment status was classified. Prior to that date, her affiliation with the CIA was not common knowledge outside the intelligence community. Disclosure of classified information about an individual’s employment by the CIA has the potential to damage the national security in ways that range from preventing that individual’s future use in a covert capacity, to compromising intelligence-gathering methods and operations, and endangering the safety of CIA employees and those who deal with them..."

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That's your proof. That is part of a federal count against Libby. Valerie Plame was no more a spy than the Double Naught Spy himself, Jefro Clampett. Joe Wilson looks like he forgot the 70's was over. He is cut from the same mold as willie clinton.

Last night this peice of shit as the gall to say the attacks on his wife were an attack on Americans. Then Olby says he's sorry to Wilson and adds Americans to his apology. Man love at it's best. A few nights ago when Obly had ther racist, fraud, liar, Jesse Jackson on his show discussing Imus, Olby added at the end in closing that he had an African American that stands in for him when he's not on the show. This boy is unreal. I bet if Jesse asked him to eat the peanuts out of his shit he would be on his knees in a pico second.

GB,

What has Bush done to protect us, son?

gb,

I posted my proof, now why not post yours that she was not, son...after you learn how to spell "Jethro" and use commas anyway...

Please avoid using editorial columns and conservative rags. Thanks, boy...

seems your blindrat ass is still alive... sound protected to me

gb,

What's the matter, son? Balls drop off?

Well, George Bush appears to have fled. Amazing how a fact will repel a neocon...

"I posted my proof [that Valerie Plame was classified], now why not post yours that she was not, son . . ."

Well, the problem is that what you posted is not proof. As GB pointed out, what you quoted is an ALLEGATION which is part of an indictment. It is simply an argument. The indictment containing this allegation does not even refer to any specific documents upon which this contention is based. Back to the drawing board blind rat.

Oh and while you are at it, here are more lies to deal with that your hero Joe Wilson has been peddling about the "yellowcake deal""

Wilson claimed Vice President Cheney dispatched him to Niger; Cheney did not even know of his trip.

Wilson claimed his wife "had nothing to do with the matter. She definitely had not proposed that I make the trip."; however, Plame wrote a memo successfully advocating her husband be chosen for the assignment (based in part on the fact that he had "lots of French contacts").

Wilson dissembled that he wrote a report of his activities; he never laid pen to paper.
Wilson said his trip uncovered no evidence of Saddam Hussein's attempt to purchase yellowcake uranium; the CIA agents who debriefed him averred that his testimony "lent more credibility" to the notion Saddam had.

Wilson claimed he saw the documents the uranium claim was based on, and they were forgeries, because "the dates were wrong and the names were wrong"; however, the CIA did not have these documents until eight months after Wilson left. In this case -- in which Wilson, not Libby, remembered things that never occurred -- he sheepishly claimed he had "misspoken."

hank,

Now YOU need proof that she was covert? If she wasn't there would have been no investigation in the first place. But sure, I'll post something else:

"More than Valerie Plame's identity was exposed when her name appeared in a syndicated column in the summer of 2003.

A small Boston company listed as her employer suddenly was shown to be a bogus CIA front, and her alma mater in Belgium discovered it was a favored haunt of an American spy. At Langley, officials in the clandestine service quickly began drawing up a list of contacts and friends, cultivated over more than a decade, to triage any immediate damage..."

"...Nonetheless, intelligence specialists said the exposure of Plame -- who operated under the deepest form of cover -- was a grim reminder of the risks spies face..."

"..."It's possible that no damage was done [to national security] but she can never [work] overseas again," said Mark Lowenthal, who retired from a senior management position at the CIA in March..."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102801988_2.html

And, let's face it, hank: Wilson was right and the Bushies were wrong about the yellow-cake. All the spinning in the world wouldn't change that...

dumbrat- you say wilson was right? that there wasn't an iraq meeting about yellow cake? your getting senile in your old age gramps. there was a meeting. check the bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report. it states clearly that a meeting did occur. but it may require you to put your specs on gramps. or maybe even just require you to dig it out of your huge bevvy of facts you choose to omit when you wax about the good old days. isn't it time for you to lay down gramps.

Where does Wilson say that there was no meeting, son?

Actually, it is stated that the Iraqi government tried to talk about uranium but the prime minister steered the conversation away from that subject...

You're welcome!

I've gotta catch my bus. But, before the obvious question is asked, my source is the Senate Iraq Report, July 2004. Page 44 is good reading, by the way...

Farewell, children!

In a syndicated newspaper column by Robert Novak on July 14, 2003, Valerie Plame (aka Valerie E. Wilson) was identified as a CIA "operative on weapons of mass destruction." Plame was married to former ambassador Joseph C. Wilson, who had worked briefly for the CIA and had written a scathing editorial a week earlier in the New York Times accusing the Bush administration of "twisting," "manipulating," and "exaggerating" intelligence about Iraqi weapons programs "to justify an invasion."

Bush's adversaries quickly concluded that he or someone close to him had illegally "outed" Plame in retribution for her husband's editorial, and thus a "scandal" was born. Many of them demanded that Karl Rove, the President's close advisor and an early suspect in the case, be fired immediately. Many more speculated and hoped that the "leak" would ultimately bring Bush down in classic Watergate style.

President Bush appointed a Special Prosecutor to investigate the matter, and thus began one of the most ridiculous episodes in American history. The original conspiracy theory was absurd on its face and has been debunked, but the Bush adversaries have kept most of the American public ignorant of several absurdities that have permeated this case from start to finish. The Plame episode was and is a farce.

The mainstream media routinely refer to Plame as a former "covert" or "undercover" agent, but they almost always conveniently neglect to mention that she had not been one for several years prior to the so-called "leak." When the "leak" occurred, Plame was working openly at a desk job at CIA headquarters and had been for over five years.

Common sense suggests that once an agent works regularly at CIA headquarters, the agent is no longer useful for long-term, high-priority covert work. The law sets the threshold at five years, and Plame had exceeded that threshold for not working an extended undercover assignment in a foreign country. Hence, the law about "outing" a covert agent simply did not apply.

The law also requires that the leak be intentional, which is very difficult to prove under any circumstances. When the "outed" agent had been working openly at a desk job at CIA headquarters for several years prior to the "outing," malicious intent is almost impossible to prove.

Finally, you might try bringing yourself up to speed by reading this column by two of the drafters of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act on the issue of whether Plame was really covert or not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A2305-2005Jan11.html

Blindrat says:

"Wilson was right and the Bushies were wrong about the yellow-cake. All the spinning in the world wouldn't change that..."

But blindrat ignores this:

"Wilson said his trip uncovered no evidence of Saddam Hussein's attempt to purchase yellowcake uranium; the CIA agents who debriefed him averred that his testimony "lent more credibility" to the notion Saddam had."

Yeah, there's definitely some spinning, but it's blindrat doing the spinning. . .

Blindrat at 2:07: "Well George Bush appears to have fled. Amazing how a fact will repel a Neocon"

Blindrat, I've noticed a pattern. The bile machine who calls himself "George Bush" appears here almost every day at lunchtime and spews out a tirade of hate and profanity laced third grade level insults aimed at me, you, and anybody else who dares diss his beloved namesake...and then disappears again.

My guess is that he does this on his lunch break....and then he has to punch back in somewhere. At least he appears to be gainfully employed, even if he thinks spewing out bile is a substitute for articulating a coherent argument.

Keith , being uniquely feminine, was actually moist during the Joe Wilson segment. Keith is a wonderful woman. HA!

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