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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    June 29, 2007
    Countdown with Keith Olbermann - June 29, 2007

    "COUNTDOWN WITH KEITH OLBERMANN" (8:00 P.M.-9:00 P.M. ET)

    Host: Keith Olbermann

    Topics/Guests:

    • WAR ON TERROR POLITICS: Jonathan Alter, Newsweek senior editor and MSNBC political analyst; Lt. Cmdr. Charles Swift, U.S. Navy defense lawyer
    • LONDON BOMB THWARTED: Evan Kohlmann, MSNBC terrorism analyst and founder of globalterroralert.com
    • REPUBLICANS AND PETS: Mo Rocca, TV personality and author of "All the Presidents' Pets"

    The opening spiel began, of course, with the shocking, unexpected news that Democrats are against the Iraq War. Top story of the night on OlbyPlanet. Plus Gitmo, featuring a lawyer who defends terrorists. The London bomb "scare": see, it wasn't interrogation or wiretaps, it was found by happenstance. Therefore, we don't need to interrogate? OlbyLogic. Another attack on Rupert Murdoch--in which we catch Edward R Olbermann lying to his gullible viewers once again-- and why Republicans hate pets. No, we didn't make that up. It could only be concocted on a casual Friday at The Hour of Spin.

    Bathtub Boy

    #5: Democrats are against the Iraq war. Dan Olbermann asked Alter what happens when the President tries to "demonize" Democrats. Even on a Friday, OlbyPlanet is always spinning. Lefty said "the surge isn't working", based on his on-the-ground observations and intelligence sources far beyond those of Gen Petraeus. Great thanks.

    Then, "White House in Crisis" [Ding!]. The Supreme Court will hear arguments from Gitmo detainees. Terrorist defender Swift thinks it's a great idea for prisoners of war to get trials. Just like the hundreds of thousands in World War II did, right? Just like all the POWs we captured in VietNam, right? Um, well, that didn't come up. No time, because it's the "White House in Crisis". Swift wants to close Gitmo too, because it's the "White House in Crisis".

    #4: The so-called, reported, putative, ostensible, claimed, unproven, alleged, purported bomb plot. What are those people in London so concerned about? You call that a bomb? The most it would have been was a car fire. Only a slovenly political hack like Oralmann could twist news like this to fit his propaganda purposes. You will note that Evan Kohlmann, MSNBC's own terrorism expert, was scheduled to appear. But his appearance got cancelled. Maybe Oralmann got a look at his website and decided he was a bit too reality-based. Instead we got another installment of Lefty Olby and Crazy Larry, with the deranged, discredited Larry Johnson (Blue Blog Source: Daily Kos). As predicted, Olbermoronn deliberately refused to report the connection to Al Qaeda; instead Mr Humility painted himself and his delusional guest as the only informed commenters because all those other terrorism experts you see on tv have a "vested interest in there being terrorism". Um, Mr Kohlmann, Krazy Keith is talking about you. Only Edward R Olbermann would cancel and then insult his network's own experts because their views aren't acceptable to the blue blogs! 'Nuff said.

    #3: Rupert Murdoch attack part two. KO pretended like this was his own reportage when actually he just lifted stuff from the New York Times. Of course, since it's Fox, Fat Ass has to twist, distort, and misrepresent. He can't help it. It's in his nature. So when Murdoch says Brit Hume on Special Report gives the news "absolutely straight", Olby pulls out a clip of Hume giving an opinion on something. What is Edward R Olbermann not telling us? The clip was not from Special Report, but from an entirely different program where Hume was a guest and was asked his opinion on something. Another Stinking Olbermann Lie. Will the Olbypologists defend this too?

    #2: The iPhone, Britney Spears, Joel Siegel. #1: Republicans hate pets, with the uproarious Mo Rocca. In the Media Matters Minute, CNN because they're letting Glenn Beck fill in for a week (Blue Blog Source: Media Matters), and "Coultergeist" (virtually verbatim Blue Blog Source: TV Newser).

    Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly book Culture Warrior

    If it's Friday, it's our weekly assessment of Olbermann's masculinity. Over the past week Monkeymann has attacked Fox and right-wing pundits 18 times. His primary source (Media Matters) criticized MSNBC six times, but Olby criticisms of MSNBC totalled: zero. That makes this week's Olbermann Manhood Quotient: -36 [limp].

    NAME

    Olbermann's book The book that bears Olbermann's name roars along at #3,583 at amazon.com, while "Culture Warrior" is #583. (It's that 2-for-$25 sale!) The OlbyTome remains buried below the ranking radar at Barnes & Noble; O'Reilly's book is #1,128 there, and is one of the top five books of 2006 per Publishers Weekly. Tonight's MisterMeter reading: 1 [LOW]


    Posted by johnny dollar | Permalink | Comments (346) | | View blog reactions

    346 Comments

    If not truthful, Olby is predictable. Of course the London car bombs were the work of morons. An Olby standard, as if we didn't see it coming. I think someone needs to explain terrorism to Keith Anally. Someone other than his Islamofascist and Chavista pals.

    Another "scathing" expose of Rupert Murdoch. Yawn. Olby, he will always be more successful and powerful than you ever hope to be. Let it go. You're embarrassing yourself. Envy is a blue-eyed fake news anchor.

    Didn't NBC get tax breaks to locate MSNBC and CNBC in Secaucus? Or was it to move them back to New York?

    Thursday, 25-54 Demo:

    1. Fox/Bill O'Reilly 648
    2. Headline News/Nancy Grace- 355
    3. MSNBC/Countdown- 218
    4. CNN/Paula Zahn- 203

    Way to go, Keef... you really worked hard to beat out Paula for THIRD!!! Its not that bad that BOR beat you 3 to 1 in the ratings.

    Total Day:
    Fox- 315
    MSNBC- 97

    Total Prime Time:
    Fox- 618
    MSNBC- 192

    Could the numbers GET any worse?!? Its time for another SPECHUL KOMMENT!

    Olbermahn lies to his audience again. He did it with a little editing trick in the Murdoch segment. Did anyone catch it? A genuine no-prize if you can identify it before our summary goes up in about 20 minutes.

    Keith's "newscast" is like tabloid sleaze
    The viewers will cringe with unease
    Mister apricot tan
    Is obsessed with a man
    Keith suffers from mental disease

    "of course the London car bombs were the work of morons. An Olby standard. As if we didn't see it coming."

    One question...did the 'bomb' go off?....or did the 'bomb' just smoke?

    I rest my case!

    Thank God the bombs didn't detonate. I have a feeling that was the intention. Luckily, police intervened.

    Thank God the bombs didn't detonate. I have a feeling that was the intention."

    Yeah, right!....That makes sense!

    I cannot wait for Murdoch to die.. then I will piss on his grave. I hope it happens real soon.

    Moonbat alert: Michael Moore is on LKL.

    I cant wait for Bill O Leilly's cunt whore wife(never mind, he's not married), I mean cunt mother to die so we can all use her tomb as a personal toilet! And Olbermahn's too while we're at it.

    Dan the Man

    Ban Dan.

    Dan is a yet another fine example of liberal intellectualism in this country.

    I didnt mean BIll O guys, I meant this stupid guy who writes things under the name Bill O Leilly.

    Hey , Bill is really the only guy that is courageous enough to stand up to child rapists, lenient judges, left wing nuts, etc. KO is brave enough o drink his Kool Aid and invite his sock puppets on
    and talk about the same stuff about Iraq, Bush, etc. (yawn)

    Whoopsie. It appears Dan the Man is not liberal. That's odd - he's plying lefty tactics like using obscene, abusive language in his post. Dan, if you are not on the left, then stop doing Stupid Liberal Tricks.

    Dan... yeah Iraq is not important.. right ? Hmm.. Newt Gingrich, Man Cuntler, blowjob lips Malkin and the whoremeister Dick Morris.. all regular Fake Noise commentators. Yeah constitutional scholars do not measure up to te likes of the Fake noise network. Just another fucking rightwing idiot.

    sorry, just responding to Bill O Leilly's above quote about wishing quick deaths to Rupert Murdoch.

    Dick Morris used to be a political advisor for your hero, Bill CLinton, guess your hero is a dum ass than. As for Iraq, I've snaid this to everyone and I'll say it again: unless you have a relative or friend lost in or currently fighting in Iraq, it's not as important to a person as the economy is. The economy is MUCH more important than Iraq, I mean seriously, would you rather have a war and no job or a job and war in Iraq. Thank goodness we have Bush as president, he is the reason why the market is so great and unemployment so low.

    Dan opines: "Bill is eally the only guy with the courage to stand up to child rapists, lenient judges, left wing nuts....."

    Sure 'Dan', that sure does take a lot of courage. Why one of them crazy 'lenient judges' is liable to plant a bomb in Bill O's car any day now.

    No Dan, Bill O doesn't take the 'easy' way out like that cowardly Keith does....Keith just takes on the president and vice president of the United States, both commonly referred to as the most powerful men in the world.

    Amazing write-up tonight. The cancelled dissenting guest, the Brit Hume deception..I had no idea.

    I have to admit, as much as I loathe KO, he is damn good at propagandizing. Half the fun in watching Countdown is checking this site afterward!

    "The economy is much more important than Iraq": What an unbelievably callous and selfish statement!

    "I mean seriously, would you rather have a war and no job or a job and war in Iraq: I think you didn't word your point as you intended but I think I know what you mean: The answer is emphatically NO! I'd give up my livelyhood in a minute to end the madness in Iraq.

    Dan, to actually put into words that you don't think it's that important that Americans are getting blown up in Iraq for no coherant reason simply because they aren't YOUR relatived says everything about the selfish way you think....and why I would never want to be like you.

    I wouldnt quite call KO "brave" for taking on the president, Keith would take on his own mother if she wasnt a Democrat. And the only reason why he bashes Bush every night is because he thinks this will be a major ratings success, boy was he wrong. Why doesnt he bash Congress, who has the lowest rating of any Congress in history, o wait, I almost forgot, the majority is Democrats!
    No sense in bashing them, only the eeeeeevil Republicans.

    > Amazing write-up tonight. The cancelled dissenting guest, the Brit Hume deception..I had no idea.

    Thank you so much. The lies Olbermann tells just to smear his competitors and perceived enemies are indisputable. And you won't find "media critics" from the prestigious journali8sm "reviews" EVER calling him on it.

    No, the media in general doesnt call people out on lies...The lead-up to the war really rings in my mind as a perfect example of that.

    it's not only me that thinks that way, sad as it may be. Iraq war has been going on for so long and it's so messy, people just go about their lives nowadays and dont think too much about it, other than maybe holiday times. We all want them home as soon as possible but I realy believe that people dont put as much emphasis on it as they probably should. If you poll most Americans, they will tell you that putting food on the table each night for their kids is more important than another bombing
    that went off in Afghanistan or Iraq.

    Dan, I, for one am well aware that it's not only you who thinks that way.

    It's really sad though...nothing to be proud of!

    not saying I am proud or anything, just stating how society thinks and acts these days. People nowadays get more hooked on a WWE wrestler's death than our own troops dieing. I think the fact that this war has been going on for so many years is a major contibutor to our thoughts these days, people look for something new and fresh to view.

    I didnt mean BIll O guys, I meant this stupid guy who writes things under the name Bill O Leilly.

    Hey , Bill is really the only guy that is courageous enough to stand up to child rapists, lenient judges, left wing nuts, etc. KO is brave enough o drink his Kool Aid and invite his sock puppets on
    and talk about the same stuff about Iraq, Bush, etc. (yawn)

    Posted by: Dan at June 29, 2007 10:12 PM
    Whoopsie. It appears Dan the Man is not liberal. That's odd - he's plying lefty tactics like using obscene, abusive language in his post. Dan, if you are not on the left, then stop doing Stupid Liberal Tricks.

    Posted by: at June 29, 2007 10:14 PM

    ..and with that little misunderstanding cleared up, wingnut criticisms of Dan's vile brand of discourse disappear.

    as did Bill O Leilly's comment, mysteriously disappeared.

    This war doesn't have to be, Dan. We've been sold a bill of goods implying that the war has to continue.

    If Americans would just get more concerned about something like the war that actually matters than they are with American Idol or Paris Hilton, things would change quickly.

    What is difficult for me to understand is someone like you praising the man who created the war just because you think he has also created a great economy (something I disagree with, but thats another arguement entirely).

    To everyone.

    My apologies.

    For the last couple of months I have purposely tried to bait and argue over meaningless politicial nonsense.

    I believed that by spending time on this site, quoting others and posting outside links to articles I was doing something important.

    Tonight I realized differently.

    All the time spent here, trading barbs and the back and forth was time spent away from my little girl - Elizabeth.

    Tonight Elizabeth passed away at 7 months from SIDS.

    My mother and I are devastated.

    Needless to say I wish I had that time back.

    Please, for the sake of yourself and your children. Leave this board.

    There is nothing to be gain from hiding behind fake id's posting dismissed arguments on days we could be holding our children.

    If I can make one point after all this time it is this: give up the computer for the people that surround us.

    God Bless.

    Sir Loin of Beef

    Sir Loin

    My deepest sympathy on your loss.

    SLOB

    I don't know what to say other than I am so sorry.

    My thoughts and prayers to you and your wife.

    May God hold her in the palm of His hand Sir Loin.

    Eternal rest be granted to thee O Lord.

    One question...did the 'bomb' go off?....or did the 'bomb' just smoke?

    I rest my case!

    Posted by: Mike at June 29, 2007 9:47 PM

    Suck, suck, slurp, slurp. "mike" on olbermahn........

    Sir Loin,

    My prayers to you and your wife. There is nothing worse in this world than losing a child.

    Take comfort in the time you spent together and those memories.

    Sir Loin of Beef - my thoughts and prayers to your family at this time.

    I am so sorry for your loss SLOB. There couldn't possibly be anything worse for a parent!

    And you are so right, arguing on this board is so uninportant compared to the important things in life....and as a non-political friend keeps reminding me; "you're not going to change any minds posting on this board".

    My prayers are with you SLOB!

    In fact, prisoners of war in WWII were given quick in-the-battle type trials. They weren't formal and certainly didn't follow all of the rules of evidence, but they did a decent job of separately the worst people out. More than we've managed to give the prisoners in Gitmo in the several years that's been going on.

    Evan Kohlmann would have rained on Olbermahn parade, for sure! "Cancell him," says Olbyonesidedkanoby.

    Yikes! Another fascist website on the net that just hates the truth being told.

    Sorry boys, reality is getting closer to catching up with you.

    RC

    slob, wasn't your wife in the hospital just last week? Your car got scratched?

    In fact, prisoners of war in WWII were given quick in-the-battle type trials. They weren't formal and certainly didn't follow all of the rules of evidence, but they did a decent job of separately the worst people out. More than we've managed to give the prisoners in Gitmo in the several years that's been going on.

    Posted by: ding at June 30, 2007 12:02 AM

    You can thank the aclu for this!

    A lawyer for an Al Qaeda terrorist is invited onto Keith's show and says "America is not doing a good enough job of suppressing Al Qaeda". And then after the interview Keith tells the man "It's a pleasure to be in the same country with you".

    Nobody died. These posts above were loathsome pieces of shit pretending to be me, and poking fun at an ongoing hardship in my family that I was foolish enough to mention last weekend.

    They've got nothing - particularly moral integrity - so they just let it all out.

    SLOB,

    I saw your post on the other thread and confirmed what I thought. I couldn't understand why it read "My mother and I were devastated" and it frankly didn't sound like you. I at first thought, well maybe he was just really upset and slipped up. Somebody here really is sick. I think the responses you received last week shows that MOST of the regulars, even the ones who don't agree with you, are decent people.

    Great information. Thanks


    You may also find it useful to visit my website: http://www.petsmixonline.com

    Disgusting post at 11:40PM. Making up a story about the death of a child and using another poster's name on top of it all, is revolting.

    I read the name the wack used and immedietly had a deeply moving reaction because my wife and I had a premature baby who died nearly three years ago now. Her name was Elizabeth Ann.

    The first part of the post is true and I hope that people do have perspective and priorites with regard to what is really important in life.

    But the lie in claiming to be Sir Loin of Beef makes the whole post distrubing.

    Knock it off with the poster name games....Either post anon or post with a consistent ID...and stop the games with using other's ID.

    Most importantly.....Loin, I hope your wife is feeling better from what caused her to go into the ER last week.

    I'm taking a break from this board for a while.

    BTW, nice job with the show review, J$.

    There was so much to discuss along with regard to comments on the thread that were interesting (especially Mike), but the wind was taken out of my sails with the faux post.

    When Keith opens his mouth he's lying
    Last place is where Countdown is vying
    Keep shoveling shit
    More lies about Brit
    Keith's a scumbag there's no denying

    Olbyloon education: Olbermahn lapdog, Larry Johnson.

    Well, it's good to see that the former CIA employee is now worried about the war on terror. But it's a bit late. On July 10, 2001--two months before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon--Crazy Larry Johnson wrote an op-ed for the New York Times ("The Declining Terrorist Threat") in which he argued that Americans were "bedeviled by fantasies about terrorism" and, in truth, had "little to fear" from terrorism. And, in turn, he rebuked his former colleagues in the national security bureaucracy for using the "fiction" of the terrorist threat to pump up their budgets.

    See that olbyloons? 2 months before 9/11 Crazy Larry said we had "little to fear!" People listen to this fool?

    Liberal outrage? Not a chance. Newsworthy on Planetolby? Not a chance!

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) has disclosed that she holds stock valued at up to $15,000 in Alcatel-Lucent (formerly Alcatel SA), a company with extensive investments in Iran and Sudan — nations that sponsor terrorism.

    The disclosure of Pelosi’s holdings comes at the same time that legislation is making its way through the California legislature barring state pension fund managers from investing in companies, like Alcatel-Lucent, that do business with "terror-friendly" nations.

    "Contempt of Congress, abuse of power, putting our military in an unwinnable situation, thus more deaths.
    What a fine record !"

    Yes, it is absolutely deplorable as to what we have let our country become and the hands of what is basically a group of thugs.

    Uh, RK, do we want to talk about how much BUSH, ya know, the nations fucking leader, has invested in Saudi Arabia, the country that 15 of the 19 hijackers that attacked us came from? The amount of money that the Saudi's have invested in Bush and his family will make 15K look like chump change, then add the money that the Bush's and their friends have invested back into the saudi's...You might cry.

    R Cox, I think you should, in the interest of common decency, first ban and then disclose who posted the absolutely sick and cruel post about SLOB's child.

    I wish you would also let us know what names, if any, he has used here. I feel certain whoever did this has a long history of moral and intellectual dishonesty and cowardice.

    This particular (there has been another) fake 'death notice' falls into the realm of depravity.

    Does anyone want to second the motion?

    Grammie

    I don't have the authority to ban anyone. But I can tell you the history of this poster, or at least of that particular IP address. After posting his fake SLoB message, he came back with about a half dozen fake expressions of sympathy, just to get the bandwagon rolling. These were anons, Doc, and Mike Kry. Up until two days ago (a couple of posts as whoa and Sir Titus) our unknown poster was on a little break, having not commented since May. Before that he posted as doc, Keith's Cancer, Facist Revealed, November 9, MrLeft, and k-fed. Plus he stole a few other posters names along the way as well. A total of 47 comments.

    JohnDoll. Can you please post a source on your attack of the Report about BillO calling people names?

    J$, thanks and I hope you are really back with us.

    I know you can't ban posters so that was why I addressed my comment to R Cox.

    Thanks for the info, though. I only vaguely recognize the multiple names. Is he always that religiously phony and smarmy?

    I still think he should be banned. That one using SLOB was just way over the top.

    Grammie

    Grammie

    My "source" is the "study" that was cited. I did not attack the study. I accurately described what it said, unlike you (if that was you) who claimed it said Mr Bill called his guests derogatory names every 7 seconds. That's just not what the study says. The study was only about his opening talking points memo, where there were NO GUESTS at all, and counted things like "conservative" and "liberal" as calling names.

    If you cite a study to make a point, you ought to know what it says. That means, maybe you should read it first. I know that when it comes to smearing Fox or especially O'Reilly, telling the truth is at most optional (as it is on OlbyPlanet). But it tells me something when people toss out false statements or misrepresent stuff just to attack someone else.

    In other words, my source is the study itself, which you apparently never bothered to actually read.

    > Funny, there's a lot of talk out here of Keith's "manhood" (limp?) and appearance and what not.

    It was Keith who impugned O'Reilly's manhood. It was Keith who talked about Rush "Limpbaugh". Maybe you didn't wonder about their sexual potency, but your hero Keith Olbermann did, over and over again. I don't disagree with your thesis that Keith could be a closet homophobe.

    So before you attack this blog, get a clue. The stuff you are objecting to is exactly the stuff Keith Olbermann does. Here's a hint: that's why we do it. We use on him the smears and attacks he uses on others. And then we wait for the Olbypologists to castigate us for being closeted homophobes. Of course they don't realize they are really pointing the finger at Olbermann himself, whose words we are merely re-using. Wake up!

    I did read it, what I could find of it anyways, online all I could find was a list of tables of how many times he said the "words". Not a list of the actual words. And I know it was during his editorials...I said that in my original post...

    Could you please post the website that you read it on? I looked all over google and I could not find the word list you referred to.

    The FIRST SENTENCE of this "study" reads:

    This study updates methods of communication analysis popular in the period between the world
    wars in an effort to analyze news commentator Bill O’Reilly’s ‘‘Talking Points Memo’’ editorials.

    Nothing to do with calling his guests names. See how helpful it is to read a study before you cite it?

    > And I know it was during his editorials...I said that in my original post...

    You DID? Funny I seem to remember you saying the study proved O'Reilly called HIS GUESTS derogatory names every 7 seconds. If you KNEW it was merely his opening editorial, then you lied when you wrote that. If you didn't know, then you are lying now when you claim you did know.

    So which is it? Lying then, or lying now?

    Hey, Asshole. I wasnt trying to get into a debate about this, I just wanted the fucking source so I could see it myself. I'm interested in that kind of thing, ya know, information. If you have real information for or against something, I want to see it. God damn.

    Read my post, I SAID "IN HIS EDITORIALS" Jesus child.

    Yes, I did refer to his guests, I didn't think when I posted that, my bad...but I did say exactly what I said I did. Dont call me a liar.

    Now, will you post that source that you say you have? Or were YOU the one thats lying?

    J$, thanks and I hope you are really back with us.

    I know you can't ban posters so that was why I addressed my comment to R Cox.

    Thanks for the info, though. I only vaguely recognize the multiple names. Is he always that religiously phony and smarmy?

    Grammie

    > Now, will you post that source that you say you have?

    I got to the study by following the link YOU posted. Do you want me to go back and find YOUR link for you and then retrace my steps, just so you can call me an asshole? I don't think so.

    I think I get what you are saying...Now that I have an idea of how to read this report...Lets try again...Yes, Im going to call you an asshole.

    He portrays the Right-Wing as a "Hero" or "Good" 30% of the time, while he portrays the left as 90.5% of the time, or even worse, evil 7.9% of the time.

    Yeah, in that case I could consider calling someone a "liberal" a deragotory name.

    What about his calling the right wing media Good or Heroic 66% of the time mentioned and the left wing Bad or Evil 96.9% of the time

    He considers non-christians Bad or Evil 73% of the time, and NEVER good.

    For Christ's sake, the man has it out for Academia, calling them bad or evil 89% of the time mentioned. Ill bet he even thinks that America was founded as a Christian Nation. Who cares about history!?

    What are some of his reasons against the left?
    -Moral Threat
    -Violate Social Norms
    -Anti-Bush
    -Anti-American
    -Allow Terrorism
    -Incompetant

    He also considers Bush to be "unfairly judged" 83% of the time.

    Thanks for getting me to read the report a little more closely JDollar. You really helped my argument.

    If we were able to think of terrorism the same way Israel thinks of it we could've avoided all of this mess. Resolve what real issues you can (Afghanistan) and don't go looking to find more trouble (Iraq).

    Seems pretty easy to me.

    Instead we gotta go and stir things up in an effort to change an area that has had fighting for thousands of years. When Americans die by the thousands it suddenly is time to look the other way, as long as you still have a job.

    Funny, we couldn't look the other way after AFGHANISTAN though.


    Posted by: The Truth at June 30, 2007 12:42 PM


    ...and don't forget the whole oil-as-crack scenario. Had this country followed through on the far-sighted and courageous proposals put forward by Jimmy Carter in regard to making this country free of its petroleum addiction, today we wouldn't be any more embroiled in the middle east than we are in New Zealand.

    But Reagan's "mourning in America" shot that down, and the emerging oil troubles of the 70's were used as ammunition to ridicule Carter, along with his energy initiatives.

    ...and 30-odd years of pandering to oil-mercantilism have brought us here.

    > You really helped my argument.

    Oh yeah, that really proves that he calls his guests derogatory names every 7 seconds. But hey, it distracts from Olbermann's latest lie about Brit Hume, so go for it.

    Speaking of Krazy Keith, I'd like to see a study like that on Oralmann. 83%? No way. Dan Olbermann is a 100% left-wing water carrier.

    Uh, Truth...Afghanistan harbored the terrorist that actually attacked us...They actually had something to do with 9/11. They promoe(d) terrorism and have a relationship with Al Qaeda...

    Iraq...doesnt...do...any...of...that.

    Why cant you get that through your thick skull?

    Btw, only 319 trops have died in Afghanistan with only 900 others being injured...

    329 men and women were killed in Iraq THIS QUARTER...IN THE PAST 3 MONTHS more have died in the Country that didn't attack us than in the entire war in Afghanistan

    More than 15 times as many Afghans and Iraqis have been killed than every person killed in all terrorist attacks worldwide since 1968.
    http://www.unknownnews.net/casualties.html

    That proves that he calls SOMEONE a derogatory name ever 7 seconds...Still proves the point that BillO is a shithead.

    I love how good you are at shifting to stories about Olbermann, why are you so scared of him? DId he steal your lunch money as a kid? Steal your girlfriend on the playground?

    Btw, I've heard him bash the left, he talks about the congress often. As opposed to FoxNoise who is genuinely a water-carrier for the WhiteHouse and RightWing.

    London Car Bombing Coverage:

    Nothing new here. Keith Olbermann (D) has downplayed 9/11, the Fort Dixx Terror plot, the JFK Airport plot, and many other near misses as Bush Administration propaganda and spin.Let me guess, it was aBush administration ploy to take attention away from the Dem debate at Howard University?

    Turn on your TV Olbermann (D), another non-terrorist incident just happened at Glasgow Airport. Better get Rosie O'Donnell on the phone to see which angle to cover this story from!

    Btw, I've heard him bash the left, he talks about the congress often. As opposed to FoxNoise who is genuinely a water-carrier for the WhiteHouse and RightWing.

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at June 30, 2007 1:27 PM

    true; If memory serves, didn't Olbermann lambaste Reid and Pelosi on his last show for malingering on impeachment/ending the war? That stuff seems to slip past the OW bloggers in their dail analyses.

    Btw, are you referring to when he named Brit Hume WPITW on March 19th...in that exact same video segment he slams Sharpton(a left wing figure) for Bronze.

    I dont doubt that he does carry water for the right wing, in fact, I know he does. But he doesnt do it unquestioningly. He really just criticizes anyone that deserves it.

    Royal Asshole wrote: "slob, wasn't your wife in the hospital just last week? Your car got scratched?"

    Wow. You are a real piece of shit.
    If you were in front of me and made a comment like that to someone who just lost a child I would punch you right in your hood.

    Fuckin hillbilly trash.
    Go commit suicide please.

    Posted by: The Truth at June 30, 2007 12:52 PM
    Idiot, I asked that question because I smelled a rat. His wife was in the hospital last week and his car got vandalized. I had a feeling the post was fake, but, didn't want to jump to conclusion. I was right, it was a name jacker, his kid didn't die. Eat shit, tough guy!

    > That proves that he calls SOMEONE a derogatory name ever 7 seconds...

    Sure: "conservative" = derogatory. "liberal" = derogatory. And you're still not telling the truth. He doesn't use these "derogatory" words every 7 seconds. It's every 7 seconds in his EDITORIAL. Do you even know what an editorial is? It's an OPINION piece where the writer makes JUDGMENTS about people. That's the PURPOSE of editorials. I'm surprised I have to keep explaining this stuff.

    > I love how good you are at shifting to stories about Olbermann

    Beautiful. Perfect. Shall we, all together now? This site is called OLBERMANN watch. Its purpose is "stories about Olbermann". Did you ever notice the heading at the top of the page? "Stories about Olbermann" is what we do. "Stories about Olbermann" R us. Imagine that, I'm very tricky because I keep shifting to stories about Olbermann on a site called Olbermann watch. Next you'll tell me that those damned writers at Sports Illustrated should be condemned because they keep writing about Sports.

    Sometimes it's just too easy.

    I bet Olbermahn and his crack staff of one are hard at work on coming up with a way to downplay the "morons" driving cars into the airport. Soap powder in an envelope justifies an all out FBI investigation, bombs in cars are just "morons."

    London Car Bombing Coverage:

    Nothing new here. Keith Olbermann (D) has downplayed 9/11, the Fort Dixx Terror plot, the JFK Airport plot, and many other near misses as Bush Administration propaganda and spin.Let me guess, it was aBush administration ploy to take attention away from the Dem debate at Howard University?

    Turn on your TV Olbermann (D), another non-terrorist incident just happened at Glasgow Airport. Better get Rosie O'Donnell on the phone to see which angle to cover this story from!

    Posted by: The Raging Republican at June 30, 2007 1:29 PM


    Please inform us as to how Olbermann "downplayed 9/11". Nearly 3000 people died in that attack, nearly as many as have died in Bush's occupation of Iraq, and I've never seen him deal with it with other than gravity and respect.

    The bondy-counts from the other incidents you mention....er, well, there were no dead from those, and its sort of ambiguous as to whether they actually were "incidents".

    London Car Bombing Coverage:

    Nothing new here. Keith Olbermann (D) has downplayed 9/11, the Fort Dixx Terror plot, the JFK Airport plot, and many other near misses as Bush Administration propaganda and spin.Let me guess, it was aBush administration ploy to take attention away from the Dem debate at Howard University?

    Turn on your TV Olbermann (D), another non-terrorist incident just happened at Glasgow Airport. Better get Rosie O'Donnell on the phone to see which angle to cover this story from!

    Posted by: The Raging Republican at June 30, 2007 1:29 PM


    Please inform us as to how Olbermann "downplayed 9/11". Nearly 3000 people died in that attack, nearly as many as have died in Bush's occupation of Iraq, and I've never seen him deal with it with other than gravity and respect.

    The body-counts from the other incidents you mention....er, well, there were no dead from those, and its sort of ambiguous as to whether they actually were "incidents".

    Republican,

    He downplayed the terror plots because they needed to be downplayed.

    Fort Dix - they were gonna post as Pizza men to get in, kill everyone, then get out unscathed in an Army Fortress, dont you have better faith in the U.S. military that they couldnt stop something like this from happenening as it happened?

    JFK - Wouldnt even have worked. The fuel tanks have a shut-off valve that would have stopped the plot from being executed.

    Yesterday - If anything its a ploy to take the heat off the fact that Bush is refusing to answer subpoena's from the congress about his illegal and covert actions. Did you know that the British people hardly even notced...they just went along with their lives saying, "oops, good thing that didnt happen" while we're all over here saying, "OMG, it ALMOST HAPPENED! AHHHH, too close! Kill the terrorists!!!! Invade Iraq!!! Al Qaeda!!!"

    Yesterday Bush also gave a speech about the Iraq war in which he mentioned Al Qaeda 27 times saying that they were the main enemy we are fighting in Iraq, despite what conventional wisdom, and experts have told us. Its funny that they are the main enemy considering there wasnt even an Al Qaeda cell in Iraq til we got there, so if they are the main enemy...We created a shit-load of terrorists that weren't there before...thus further bunking the whole point of being in Iraq.

    true; If memory serves, didn't Olbermann lambaste Reid and Pelosi on his last show for malingering on impeachment/ending the war? That stuff seems to slip past the OW bloggers in their dail analyses.

    Posted by: at June 30, 2007 1:33 PM

    Oh yea, he "lambasted" them for a total of 5 seconds, if that! You are really reaching, now!

    Btw, I've heard him bash the left, he talks about the congress often. As opposed to FoxNoise who is genuinely a water-carrier for the WhiteHouse and RightWing.

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at June 30, 2007 1:27 PM

    true; If memory serves, didn't Olbermann lambaste Reid and Pelosi on his last show for malingering on impeachment/ending the war? That stuff seems to slip past the OW bloggers in their dail analyses.

    Posted by: at June 30, 2007 1:33 PM

    This was me, forgot to "touch the little circle"

    Yes, in the context that he used said words, it was derogatory. Snoopy could be derogatory if I used it in the right way. How many fucking times do I have to say that I said it was during his goddamnned editorial? I've said it at least 3 times now...even in the original post. Do you really just argue by making shit up and keep harping on it? Grow up, tough guy.

    You didnt answer my question, why are you so scared of Olbermann? What threat does he pose to you for you to be so uptight about everything he says and does? Are you really that insecure and pathetic that you have to make your life about the ramblings of another man?

    Too Easy? You havent even made a good point, you've merely done what most conservatives do...Muddied up the argument to the point that its completely indistiguisable then call it a victory.

    SirLoin - get your facts straight...more people have died in Iraq than did in 9/11. haha

    The point is not that he won't mildly criticize Dems. It's that when he does, it's because they aren't far-left enough for him. That's what makes him a left-wing water carrier. Look at his worst person segment: hundreds and hundreds of nominees, and about 5 of them liberals. Most nights it's two out of three, or all three, Repubs or conservatives. The ratio is overwhelming. Check out The List. See who he allows on his program to be interviewed. Stunning. He is a left-wing water carrier.

    I said he was one, I just also said that he isnt one to the point that you say he is.

    He simply bashes those who are wrong, not only those that are right-wing. If a right-winger makes a good point, its still a good point. If a left-winger says something dumb, its still something dumb.

    > why are you so scared of Olbermann? What threat does he pose to you for you

    Why is Olbermann so scared of O'Reilly. Why has he attacked him over 200 times, on air, by name? Why is he so insecure and pathetic that he has to obsess on the ramblings of another man?

    The reason for this site is simple. Olbermann is a left-wing hack posing as a journalist. He slants the news outrageously, leaves out stories that don't fit his tint, and makes personal attacks on his more successful competitors. Most of all, he fabricates, distorts, and brazenly lies to satisfy his blue blog fanboys and to smear people he doesn't like. He's a liar, a demagogue, and not a nice person (unless you think telling someone to commit suicide or f- their mother is the act of a nice person).

    If Olbermann woud stop lying about his program, himself, the news, and all those people who hold unapproved opinions (Beck, O'Reilly, etc), I would have a lot less problem with him. But I don't like liars.

    What exactly has he lied about?

    and RK, btw...That thing where he bashed them dems was an 8-minute special comment where he ripped them a new asshole

    This was me, forgot to "touch the little circle"


    Posted by: Sir Loin of Beef at June 30, 2007 1:43 PM
    You don't have to do it every time you post unless you post under other names, too. Or, make anons. Why do olbyloons feel the need to use different names or make little anonymous jabs?

    Oh please. He lied about Brit Hume just last night. Check out Olbermann's Top Ten Lies of 2006 (actually about three times that many are referenced) for more.

    The point is not that he won't mildly criticize Dems. It's that when he does, it's because they aren't far-left enough for him. That's what makes him a left-wing water carrier. Look at his worst person segment: hundreds and hundreds of nominees, and about 5 of them liberals. Most nights it's two out of three, or all three, Repubs or conservatives. The ratio is overwhelming. Check out The List. See who he allows on his program to be interviewed. Stunning. He is a left-wing water carrier.

    Posted by: johnny dollar at June 30, 2007 1:46 PM

    OK, a "left-wing water carrier" - for who, exactly? Most of the time you complain that Olbermann and other lefties are too nice to Pelosi, Reid, et.al. and too mean to Bush and the Republicans, but when we find reason to criticize those we frequently support as the lesser of two evils, we are "water carriers" for some "far left" entity that conveniently pops up in your ex post facto world view.

    Try considering that while we might find it politically opportune to support in individual elections the candidates that most closely approximate our positions, we have not sworn allegience of fealty to them, and still believe that they may be brought around to representing us as opposed to the other way around.

    Try criticizing CHeney and Bush sometime - I truly believe that lightning will not strike you down.

    Why don't you try criticizing Dan Olbermann? You have a lot of nerve, telling me I should try criticizing Bush. You have no idea what I think of Bush or Cheney. My focus is on the infamous, deplorable Keith Olbermann.

    www.olbermannwatch.com/archives/2006/12/
    Here you go STOic. Enjoy!

    What was said about Brit Hume? I didn't see the show last night...Like I said, I hardly ever get to see the show.

    Why don't you try criticizing Dan Olbermann? You have a lot of nerve, telling me I should try criticizing Bush.

    Posted by: johnny dollar at June 30, 2007 1:59 PM


    OK, i'll give it a try: Olbermann is too centrist for me. He's trying, and sometimes touches on the root of our problems, but its hard for a corporate employee to fully bring himself to terms with the "corrosive influence of the Military Industrial Complex" (Dwight Eisenhower, 1951).

    This is classic. Here you are criticizing this site, blasting what we write. And you didn't even read the damn article! Maybe next you will review a movie you haven't seen. Olbermann's smear of Brit Hume is fully documented in the show recap.

    SLOB, in case you haven't noticed, Olbermahn is packin' Hillary's water.

    Keith Olbermann is really something else. If someone has a loaded gun and they shot it at you and it doesn't go off that makes it a non-event?

    SLOB, in case you haven't noticed, Olbermahn is packin' Hillary's water.

    Posted by: royalking at June 30, 2007 2:06 PM


    OH, you mean "Far Left" Hillary? Har Har!

    I wonder just how often KO checks out OW, or if there's any way to find out.. I hope he does. And I hope it just eats him.

    Even from your distorted view of what was said its easy to see his point in the matter. His point was that Brit Hume is not just a straight talker, he does give his opinions on matters, and I know he's given opinions on his show. Thats not a lie.

    Btw, I looked at the list...PATHETIC. They're all hardly what I would consider lies...maybe here and there he did skew the story a bit, but they were not lies. Even the #1 lie was a joke. The Biggest lie of the year was his changing from I to WE, that doesnt even change the context of the quote. Wtf?

    You really have to wonder about someone that refers to Olbermahn as a "centrist." WOW!!!!!! He is a card carrying member of the FAR LEFT LUNAT FRINGE and SLOB calls him "centrist?

    STOic, you're officially an Olbyloon. Congrats!

    Yeah? what exactly is an Olbyloon?

    If by Olbyloon you mean someone who thinks for themselves, gets news from mainstream sources, reaches their own conclusions, and backs up said conclusions with facts and figures...Then yes, I am an Olbyloon.

    What does that make you? Fucking Nuts?

    > The Biggest lie of the year was his changing from I to WE, that doesnt even change the context of the quote. Wtf?

    Changing I to WE is the point. He called John Gibson a liar for saying it was "I". Olbermann thought that was the ENTIRE point. So he lied and changed it himself to "WE". He lied to call someone else a liar. You obviously didn't listen to the clips in question.

    > Even from your distorted view of what was said

    Oh, this from someone who didn't see the show? But you know that our view was "distorted"? Classic again.

    > His point was that Brit Hume is not just a straight talker, he does give his opinions on matters

    No, he played the clip to prove that Hume on SPECIAL REPORT gives opinions. Only the clip wasn't from Special Report. It was from a different show entirely, which Hume wasn't hosting. He didn't tell his audience that because he wanted them to believe he was proving Murdoch wrong. In other words, it was a lie of omission. A trick to deceive the gullible.

    There are thousands of hours of Hume on Special Report to pick from. But to prove his point, he doesn't use ANYTHING from Special Report. Instead he takes a clip from another show and doesn't tell anyone that fact.

    He's a liar. And I'm sorry to say you are an Olbypologist. If you even defend his outright lies, then there's nothing to discuss.

    Keith Olbermann is really something else. If someone has a loaded gun and they shot it at you and it doesn't go off that makes it a non-event?

    Posted by: N15PCA at June 30, 2007 2:06 PM


    Well, certainly less of an event than an IED that kills two soldiers; and one that kills five soldiers; and another one that kills two soldiers;.... But this site criticizes Olbermann and others for focusing on these events.

    And there weren't any "guns" yet in any of those "foiled plots", with the exception of the propane tanks in the latest one....and those would not blow up in a london street in the same way they do in Hollywood, which is where the right wing looks for all of its anecdotes and candidates.

    How long can the Brits and Scots hide the fact these terrorists are members of the "religion of peace?"

    I do know that what you post is HIGHLY distorted. I watch clips here and there and cross-reference with your posts. Theres a post on yesterdays board from me in which I have several problems with what you said about the show based on what I saw with the show. And I have NO reason to believe that you would be incredibly skewed on one post then absolutely straight the next day.

    My point on the lie is that, is this the best you can come up with to show that hes some lying heathen out to destory the world?

    Did Olbermann say specifically that "This is Brit Hume on Special Comment"? If he didnt, then he didnt lie...If he did, then he did lie, simple as that.

    RK, nothing to say to my post? You try to slander me then dont back it up? Typical.

    > Theres a post on yesterdays board from me in which I have several problems with what you said about the show based on what I saw

    What I said? Pretty neat trick. I didn't write ANYTHING about Thursday's show.

    > If he didnt, then he didnt lie..

    Quotes Murdoch saying Brit on Special Report delivers the news straight. Then says, and supes on the screen, "Oh Really?" Then runs a Brit clip NOT from Special Report but doesn't tell anyone that. If you don't think he's lying to his viewers then you just might be an Olbyloon.

    If by Olbyloon you mean someone who thinks for themselves, gets news from mainstream sources, reaches their own conclusions, and backs up said conclusions with facts and figures...Then yes, I am an Olbyloon.

    What does that make you? Fucking Nuts?

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at June 30, 2007 2:15 PM

    I have seen no evidence of the entire first part of your post. What were saying about "slander?" I think that makes you one hell of a hypocrite, just an observation.

    Okay, it was ESchatz...I didnt look to check. It was written in your demeaning, smarter than thou demeanor so I assumed it was you. None the less, that shows this site contrubutes to spinning Olbermann's words to your own self-righteous ideals. I have no reason to believe anything on this site is anything close to resembling objectivity...

    And Yes, thats a little sly, but it is not a lie in and of itself. The way you say, "He lied about Brit Hume just last night." makes it seem like he went out of his way to slander the man...which was not the case.

    > I must have missed where KO uses words like "limp"

    Yes you must have. Care to guess how many times he has referred to Rush "Limpbaugh"??? Go ahead, give it a shot. Then visit the Olbersaurus for a detailed lexicon of all the names and personal attacks St Olbermann has used on people he doesn't like.

    "He lied about Brit Hume just last night." makes it seem like he went out of his way to slander the man...which was not the case.

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at June 30, 2007 2:37 PM

    I would say that taking a clip from a different show would fall into the category of "going out of his way." Indeed.

    > makes it seem like he went out of his way to slander the man

    Well since the topic was Special Report with Brit Hume, and he went so far as to use NOTHING from that program, but dug up a clip from a different show that Hume doesn't even anchor...that qualifies as going out of his way. He had thousands of hours of SPECIAL REPORT footage that he could have used, but he bypassed all of it to use a clip from a program that was not the topic of Murdoch's quote. That was no accident.

    What about all the times we've argued. I've proven you wayy wrong, and provided sources. Would you like to argue now and I'll provide my sources?

    Lets start, Bush is a fucking terrorist in that he has created more terrorists than there were to begin with. Al Qaeda was not in Iraq before we got there, that was our fault. The war in Iraq is generally a disaster especially considering the toll it has taken on the real War on Terror against those in Afghanistan that really attacked us. Not to mention the Taliban is rising again as well as the Al Qaeda organization in Iraq.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A7460-2005Jan13.html

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html

    Is the WaPo mainstream enough for you?

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2915159

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A52673-2004Oct21.html

    Then I have one more if you want to see it, I dont want to flood this board with my websites. Its a video between O'Reilly and a Harvard Professor on whether the Taliban has resurged in Afghanistan saying that People on the Ground are "concerned about the situation"

    And JDollar. we're done debating.

    My original point was that how can you attack olbermann on what he does when there is someone equally if not much worse than him on your side of the Isle. You proved to me that you cant defend him, so what you say on here is as stupid and judgemental as what O'Reilly and (sometimes) Olbermann say.

    "KO pretended like this was his own reportage when actually he just lifted stuff from the New York Times." johnny dollar

    Here's how it appears at the MSNBC website, (not the newshole). The "by" line is what makes it "special." What a hack.

    Inside the world of Rupert Murdoch:
    Countdown investigates the man behind one of biggest media monopolies
    By Keith Olbermann
    Anchor, 'Countdown'
    MSNBC

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19504943/

    > My original point was that how can you attack olbermann on what he does when there is someone equally if not much worse than him on your side of the Isle.

    1. You have no idea what my side of the Isle [sic] is.
    B. You want to attack O'Reilly go to the O'Reilly watch sites. There are several. Maybe you can tell them that they are stupid and judgmental because they only attack O'Reilly and leave Olbermann alone.
    III. This Site Is Called OLBERMANN WATCH! Sheesh.

    > And JDollar. we're done debating.

    I accept your surrender.

    Surrender? You're an idiot. I am not surrendering of any kind. if anything you have surrendered. You never even refuted my original point. You went off on some tirade about how they used words that you dont consider derogatory in the study however you failed to mention context. If he calls a left-winger bad or evil, thats derogatory, moron. Kind of like me calling you a moron is derogatory. Oh wait, no its not, it acurately describes you so it cant be derogatory. That ogic makes sense, right?

    B. difference between O'Reilly and Olbermann is that O'Reilly doesnt present his show as an opinion piece, Olbermann does. People see O'Reilly as this God that never lies, even though he ACTUALLY FUCKING LIES. Olbermanns worst, in your own words, was him changing I to WE. What about O'Reilly's attempted slanders on George Soros? You dont have a problem with that, do you?

    1. Your side of the aisle is conservative, christian, and fucking stupid. If I'm wrong, let me know.

    1,B,III...where did you learn to count?

    Uh Huh...fair and balanced. Thats why during the Election '04 business they decided it wasnt important to "cover more than 10 minutes of Kerry's speech that might turn into a negative piece against the Iraq War" when they covered every fucking second of every damned thing Bush ever said as if it was this huge revelation in his policies.

    > If he calls a left-winger bad or evil, thats derogatory, moron. Kind of like me calling you a moron is derogatory.

    No, it's reversion to instinctual behavior. It is known that when cornered, the OlbyLoon resorts to name-calling. They take after their hero Dan Olbermann.

    > O'Reilly doesnt present his show as an opinion piece

    What? Is that the latest talking point from OlbyPlanet? He has pointed that out so many times it isn't even in dispute. Yet Countdown is still listed as a "newscast" and described by its liar-in-chief as a "news hour".

    > 1. Your side of the aisle is conservative, christian, and fucking stupid.

    Prove it. Not the 3rd grade name calling part, but the rest. Or are you, like Olbermann, making it up?

    He's not my hero for starters. He's another pundit whos opinion is widely known and widely agreed upon.

    You're still avoiding the fact that HE WAS CALLING THEM BAD AND EVIL. THAT IN ITSELF IS A DEROGATORY STATEMENT. How many times do I have to say it? Start fucking listening.

    Well, your unequivical defense of BillO/your general refusal to debate on what he says really speaks volumes to your political affiliation. Second, you are a contributor to this website and based on your hatred of Olbermann I feel I can safely conclude that you hate the left wing message that he presents.

    Once again, Let me know if you arent just another right-wing, Jesus worshiper that believes anything the government will tell you. Because otherwise, I really have no reason to believe otherwise.

    Its easy to see that Olbermanns show is opinion, he hardly ever has guests on that disagree. He does present stories that only go with his viewpoint. O'Reilly however fully puts on the persona of a newscast then uses it to promote his point of view unchallenged. Those that he does have on the show that disagree he tends to degrade them to the point that their message goes unheard(screaming and cutting off peoples mic's rings a bell)...I'd say this is worse than not having the opposing viewpoint on at all.

    I dont make things up, dont say that I do.

    > I dont make things up, dont say that I do.

    You just admitted it. "I can safely conclude..." You conclude that because I write on this site, I am a conservative Christian? Man, there's no getting through to you if you insist that anyone critical of Olbermann HAS to be a fundamentalist right-winger. I note that you refuse to quote back to me anything I wrote that supports your invented description of me. I accept your surrender twice.

    So...you win because you address one line out of a 5 paragraph response...Sounds like a right-winger to me.

    What about your surrender of never actually addressing my original argument? I believe thats one for me, none for you. From what I know of you, you hate olbermann, those that hate olbermann TEND to lean right wing to very right wing. Why else would you hate him?

    That wasnt anything made up, that was my conclusion based on what I know about you and based on what you said...and most notably, how you argue. Declaring self-victory when you've just muddied up the argument til its no longer decipherable is definately a right-wing quality.

    How about this...What are your views on the following so that I can accurately know where you stand on things?

    Bush, as an incompetant president
    Cheney, the fourth branch of government
    The Iraq war, a huge fucking fiasco that has detracted from the War on Terror on the whole
    Impeachment of Gonzalez, Cheney, or Bush
    Stem Cell Research
    Religion - Both Christianity and Islam

    one more. What are your views on Torture and the United States condoning it?

    One more thing that leads me to believe that you're a right-winged christ-worshipper is that you align yourself with RCox, who is well known as a right-wing blogger.

    > Why else would you hate him?

    Oh, because he slants the news, he's arrogant, he lies about people he doesn't like, he only gives one side of the story, he's a water carrier for the extreme left, and he is a repellent person. One doesn't have to be a right winger to criticize someone like that. I don't accept your claim that I "hate" him but I don't worry about it because it's just something else you can't document.

    > What are your views on the following so that I can accurately know where you stand on things?

    Ah. Another surrender. You admit you DON"T know my views and you want to tell you what they are. Here's a little something you just may have missed. I don't discuss politics on this site. It gets in the way of critiquing Olbermann. My views on any of the subjects you list have NOTHING to do with whether Olbermahn reports them correctly or slants them or lies about them. I could be a Michael Moore leftist or an acolyte of Ann Coulter; it doesn't change the truth of what I write about Olbermann. When he lies, slants, distorts, etc, he does so regardless of what I think about your laundry list of topics.

    So please leave my personal politics out of this. The inability of Olbypologists to defend his slanders and lies often leads them to attack me or this site as a way to divert attention from Olby. If I catch Keith in a lie, the lie doesn't become the truth because I'm a Republican or I'm a Democrat. It's a lie regardless of what I am. So my views are irrelevant.

    Umm...you're an active contributor to the most slanderous website against him on the internet. I think that qualifies as me being able to conclude that you, if not hate, GREATLY dislike the man.

    Okay, So I've never debated with you, most the time I've been posting on this site you were gone, somewhere and Im supposed to know your views on everything. So this is the logic you use to make your arguments? I really surrendered that one. No wonder you're so bad at debating

    The point remains though, this IS a political website. Every post is FULL of political dialogue, but you, a chief contributor wont throw your hat in the ring...what does that say about you...Coward? Cant defend your views so you keep them to yourself in your little right-wing world of ignorant bliss?

    Btw, since I've called you on it at least twice now, and you still havent responded...I guess this argument is mine, considering YOU...NEVER...FUCKING...RESPONDED...TO...THE...ORGINAL...POST You just threw some right-wing hackery in there to try and discredit the report that points out what a hack your god and savior really is.

    I now know what a right-winged white flag looks like. It looks like him declaring victory based on avoiding the original argument, decapitating the debate to the point that its exactly what he wants it to be, then claiming he wins without any actual evidence to support.

    Nice.

    How about this...What are your views on the following so that I can accurately know where you stand on things?

    Bush, as an incompetant president
    Cheney, the fourth branch of government
    The Iraq war, a huge fucking fiasco that has detracted from the War on Terror on the whole
    Impeachment of Gonzalez, Cheney, or Bush
    Stem Cell Research
    Religion - Both Christianity and Islam

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at June 30, 2007 3:32 PM

    Johnny, I suggest your follow STO's lead and discount all of his views on the basis that he doesn't concur with YOURS on all the issues he mentions above..

    While that particular method of judging merit doesn't tend towards anything but the most closed of minds, it will certainly be "fair and balanced" and/or poetically adherent to "an eye for an eye" in the case of your religious fundamentalism... :D

    Ha, I didnt know that your name was a link to your PRO-FOX NEWS website. You really do run this website of slander then turn around and defend the shit thats coming out of FoxNoise...I was really hoping I was wrong on that one, but you really are one of those.

    Cecelia, mind your own business. I wasnt trying to discount his views based on that he doesnt agree with mine.

    I was trying to get an idea of what he does believe, since he was trying so hard to not let me know.

    Go away, thanks.

    > most the time I've been posting on this site you were gone, somewhere and Im supposed to know your views on everything. So this is the logic you use to make your arguments?

    HEY, even if you don't pay attention to what I write, you could at least pay attention to what YOU write. YOU'RE the one who stated that you knew my views. You pinned me down politically and religiously. That is the logic YOU made, not me. If you're finally admitting that you DON'T know my views, contrary to your earlier claim, I'll take that. That's four surrenders.

    > You really do run this website of slander then turn around and defend the shit thats coming out of FoxNoise.

    This website does not slander Keith Olbermann, unless exposing his propaganda and lies is so unforgiveable that you consider it slander. My own site does not defend Fox News. It tells the truth and you can't find one example where it doesn't, can you?

    > Cecelia, mind your own business.

    You're rude as well as crude and uninformed. You couldn't even keep your promise that the debate is over.

    STO, I am sure you would be much happier if you found something else to do today. The beating you are taking here is painful to watch so I think I will go change the oil in my Catapiller.

    Are you serious? No I do not know your views as a matter of fact. But i know your views as a matter of speculation. From what I can tell, like I said. You're a christ-worshiping, Bush loving idiot. Until you show me otherwise, you are one, Unless you prove me wrong, or show me otherwise, it is not a wrong conclusion to reach.

    "You're rude as well as crude and uninformed. You couldn't even keep your promise that the debate is over."

    The debate was over til you started being a shithead about things, so I got back into it. I did not say we're stopping the debate as a matter of surrender. I said were stopping as a matter of ...


    WERE NOT EVEN DEBATING MY ORIGINAL POINT. WHICH YOU STILL FUCKING HAVENT RESPONDED TO.

    As to what I said to Cecelia, that was not rude, she needs to mind her own business. Shes accusing me of trying to discount your views based on what I view. I was merely trying to see what you believe in the matter of political opinions...but like i said, you wont even say what they are and that leads me to believe that you cant defend them. Want me to believe otherwise? Show me, prove it to me.

    Until then, want me to be rude? Go fuck yourself.

    Typical libnut tactics: If they can't counter an argument with logic and facts, they immediately change the subject, launch personal attacks and slander their adversaries.

    Oh, and they also attack their opponents with foul language and obscene epithets.

    Don't forget the use of four-letter words. And/or the posting of article after article from dubious sources which are totally off-topic and have nothign to do with the subject being discussed. They are nothing if not predictable.

    Cecelia, mind your own business. I wasnt trying to discount his views based on that he doesnt agree with mine.

    I was trying to get an idea of what he does believe, since he was trying so hard to not let me know.

    Go away, thanks.

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at June 30, 2007 4:11 PM


    hmmm.... you need to rethink the notion that anything posted on a public comment board could be considered private business.

    Well, of course you are in the process of attempting to discount Johnny's opinion of Olbermann because of his politics.

    I'm fairly comfortable with suggesting to you that Chris Matthews' and Anderson Cooper's views more closely concur with yours on the litmus test you issue above, but Johnny and Bob have neglected to start a watch site on them.

    Perhaps, this is the case because both these men do allow opposing arguments on their shows and that they do invite comment from those they have made charges against.

    Consider, that. I know you think it less relevant to the discussion of Olbermann Watch, than say.... Johnny's views on stem cell research and Jesus, but think about it, if you can.

    However, I'm not guaranteeing that in doing that, your head won't explode... :D


    Quote....I think its the riders, pork and the amendments to the bill that wont allow it to get to votes for passage. Or could it be just old fashion POLITICS....ya think.....might wana check it out.

    > As to what I said to Cecelia, that was not rude, she needs to mind her own business.

    Look, mister. You are not the administrator of this site, and you don't get to tell people they can't get involved in a public discussion. It's not your place to censor the people you don't want to hear from. Who do you think you are, Olbermann picking guests for his show?

    > Until you show me otherwise, you are one

    Beautiful. Indeed, a classic. Right up there with guilty until proven innocent. There is really is no rational reply to this level of "thinking".

    Um lets see here.....Vince Foster, Webb Hubble, Monica, Paula, Juanita, Sandy Burglar, Whitewater, fradulant stock trades, blue dresses, impeachment, disbarment, "IS"....uh...oh...what were you saying?

    Until you show me otherwise, you are one

    Beautiful. Indeed, a classic. Right up there with guilty until proven innocent. There is really is no rational reply to this level of "thinking".

    Posted by: johnny dollar at June 30, 2007 4:34 PM


    Based upon my "showing" STO, my views on all the above (when he demanded that I do, in the midst of my expressing concern for the fact that people who want me in a burka regardless of my religious beliefs, could one day be controlling the most vital resource on earth) STO concluded that I am a CEO some heinous profit-seeking corporation.

    STO is all about helping us to channel our inner robber baron/Jesusfreak....

    Okay, I just want to point out what has happened in this debate

    I made a point on O'Reilly as a contrast to this site and questioning this site. Dollar made a post trying to discredit one report in my argument...Left the rest of the argument untouched. I proved him wrong on his discrediting of said report. Dollar goes off on some spiel about Brit Hume and Olbermanns "lies" I ask about said lies, the worst one that he could bring was his switching the word I to WE. Scary shit. Then confront him with Olbermanns republican counterparts slanderous statements against Soros...ignored. Then he goes into some shit that Olbermann is a "100% left-wing water carrier"...Proved wrong again. Then he refuses to talk politics on a political site. And I'm losing this debate? Logic really just fails you people doesnt it?

    "Look, mister. You are not the administrator of this site, and you don't get to tell people they can't get involved in a public discussion."

    No I cant, But like you just said, this is a public message board and I can say what I want. She doesnt have to listen, neither do you. But by God, I can say it.

    And once again, you pick two lines out of a 3 paragraph post to try and refute...What a loser.

    And lastly, based on your logic of surrender...You've surrendered to my original point over 20 times. 20 - 4...I think I win.

    Yeah you proved me wrong. Point out again where O'Reilly calls his guests derogatory names every 7 seconds? Which was what you claimed? Oh yeah, you proved that correct, didn't you? LOL!

    It's still a diversion. This is not O'Reilly watch. It's Olbermann Watch. You want Olbermann lies, I give you dozens, everything from lying about ratings to claiming that something wasn't in the NIE (when it was) to lying about his own words so he could falsely accuse John Gibson of being a liar. You come back with somebody else's statement about Soros? Ahem, this is Olbermann Watch. Remember? See the little banner at the top of the page?

    It's no surprise you declare yourself the winner. By your logic ("unless you show me otherwise you are one") that probably makes sense.

    Hmmm. Wasn't A-Mess-NBC supposed to go to doc blocks at noon today per their new programming policy? It's after 4 p.m. and they are still on the air with live news. Why? Because of an attempted terrorist attack in Glasgow that followed the discovery of two car bombs in London. I don't think network management shares Olby's opinion of these three terrorist incidents. Looks like Krazy Keith's Konspiracy Korner is a bit empty today.

    That statement is technically true. Alot of the people that he shits on are/were guests on his show at some point. Or if they werent he adds them to his "coward list". Yes, this is the Olbermann Watch, buts precisely my fucking point. You get all over Olbermann's case and YOU leave O'Reilly unchecked. I dont care about other people, YOU DO IT. That is hypocritical of you.

    Good thing that you showed your true colors and took the LOW road before you found out for sure though.

    Now you can go back to rubbing your sister's feet.


    Posted by: The Truth at June 30, 2007 2:46 PM


    Coming from someone that lives on the low road, all I can do is laugh.....


    On a different note, the terrorists in Scot were heard screaming "allah" over and over why they were trying to keep police and firemen from the burning jeep. Shocker, they are muslims, go figure.....the religion of peace, hard at work.

    YOU leave O'Reilly unchecked. I dont care about other people, YOU DO IT. That is hypocritical of you.

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at June 30, 2007 5:04 PM

    Go to one of the O'Reilly sites to cry to them, this is OlbermannWatch, how many times do you have to be told?

    Hey, I already addressed you earlier. If you want to talk to me. Read my post directed at you and respond. Otherwise, I dont want to hear from you.

    > You get all over Olbermann's case and YOU leave O'Reilly unchecked.

    Imagine that. A site called Olbermann Watch that watches Olbermann, and not O'Reilly.

    There are several anti-O'Reilly sites. I will wait for you to go over there and spend just as much time telling them why they should not leave Olbermann unchecked. Don't forget to call them hypocrites.

    I haven't seen you do that. Gee, who's the hypocrite?

    Thats all you have to say? You've ignored my original point several times. Refused to actually debate and this is how you come back to my last post.

    My problem with BillO is people percieve what he says as fact...most people dont do the same with Keith...watching his show for a month will show anyone that his show is largely opinion...however, most of BillO's audience think he's this never-tell-a-lie kind of guy that tells them whats up.

    What "people" have you canvassed to prove that your comments about BOR's show are true. How do you know that the masses perceive his show as fact and not opinion (or perhaps a bit of both)? If so, then perhaps they believe his show is factual because he has guests who discuss at least two sides of an issue and the facts have a way of emerging during the discussion.

    STO, I am sure you would be much happier if you found something else to do today. The beating you are taking here is painful to watch ....
    Posted by: D-ranged at June 30, 2007 4:22 PM

    Really, STO, go out and get some air before your head explodes.

    Then he treats the guests like shit cutting off their mics(i know it was once) and yelling at them, including calling a 16 year old boy a few names. I know for a FACT that people perceive him as a truth-teller. I work at a country club full of people who have about his same salary (its a 60K entry fee plus a 10-year wait to get in), and EVERY night in the mens lounge they show the O'Reilly report and all the guys stop what they're doing and oogle over him while they get drunk.

    And I was supposed to work this morning but I got moved to this evening so ill be gone soon enough...and Im pretty sure I wasnt taking a beating, read the recap of how the debate went and you'll see that JDollar was the coward.

    So your sample data comes from a bunch of drunken golfers? Is that your focus group for this study? LOLOLOLOL. How about their caddies or the greenskeepers? Didn't you ask them as well?

    The sad thing is...those "drunken golfers" own about 75% of the city that I live in and control every bit of it. It matters.

    No, but I do know how the people I work with feel...one of them supports Bush based on that my coworker is from TX so he must support Bush. Most of them feel the same way and get most of their news from Fox.

    A-Mess NBC must be desperate - Slippery Shuster is in the anchor chair. Credibility? What credibility?

    Hey, at least they're attemtping to cover the bombing. They were supposed to have taped programming all afternoon. And how will they spend the 4th of July? With a Lock-up Marathon and a To Catch a Preditor marathon. Yep, that spells family holiday fun. Gather the kids.

    You're right. Nothing says I Love America like cornering a butt-naked, beer-swilling alleged child molester while he's sitting in a kitchen. MSNBC knows how to fete our freedom.

    Keith once spewed that his audience was 75% of O'Reilly's. The facts show that Countdown has about 25% of O'Reilly's viewers. Yet, MSNBC/Keith claim ratings are up? Show me that algorithm, MSNBC.

    Dan Abrams, why that man's a genius
    He's the boss when off Olby's penis
    This limerick's for Dan
    And his man-on-fan
    Dan Abrams and Keith. Have you seen us?

    Another day another terroist plot that Keith Olbermann scoffs at. I guess we can't worry about a terrorism until a nuke goes off in New York according to Olbermann.

    Another day another terroist plot that Keith Olbermann scoffs at. I guess we can't worry about a terrorism until a nuke goes off in New York according to Olbermann.

    Huffington Post and Daily Kos aren't credible sources. Neither is out of your butt, Olbermann's favorite source.

    Wow! The olbyloons have went from down playing the terrorist attempts to totally ignoring them. I hate to disagree with Factor,but, I don't think the loons would give a nuke hitting NY the time of day, except, to Blame Bush.....

    I bet that right now, good ole 4 eyes himself is brainstorming for his show on Monday, how to tell people that this new attack wasnt really a terrorist attack, it 's all much ado about nothing LOL. He may even say that Rupert is the person responsible for making this story up. No Al Qaeda connection here, Al Qaeda doesnt exist, remember? 9/11 didnt happen, it was just dam Bill O and Fox trying to "scare" people into thinking that the twin towers collapsed. I hope that if Al Qaeda does ever strike here again, please blow up Olberbite's home first. It will truly be addition by subraction.

    mexican patty, you have succeeded in asking one of THE most ignorant questions, ever. I would say, go do some research and answer the question yourself,but, I doubt bbcrap, media don't matters, puffington poop or the bung hole will have a truthful answer. What does your local mexican news tell you? Donkey show times? Porno/soap opera times? I won't even justify your question with an answer. You claim to be SO informed and ask asinine questions like that. Unbelievable, even coming from an olbyloon.

    That's EXACTLY what I expected from you mexican patty. Zilch. Nice picture of your work truck in front of your bosses casa, complete w/a picture of you on the side of it. Where did you get that paint job, Tijuana?

    Hey, RK, Im going to guess by your silence on the issue that you are just going to ignore my challenge to debate earlier? Just going to sit there and talk shit saying, in response to me saying that I think for myself and get information from mainstream credible sources

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    I have seen no evidence of the entire first part of your post. What were saying about "slander?" I think that makes you one hell of a hypocrite, just an observation.

    Posted by: royalking at June 30, 2007 2:35 PM
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    So I posted an original thought, backed up with MAINSTREAM media sources...did you respond? No, you tried talking shit about me later, but you quickly shup up again when I asked you to answer my question I posed earlier today.

    Now, Ill say it again, quit spewing lies about people or start backing your shit up.

    Moreover, just quit spewing lies in general...

    Btw, RK, I just took the time to peruse the site for a few of the posts I was talking about where I said I posted my sources...and for some reason you didnt believe me. Now time for some proof.

    Your Post:
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    Can you show me ONE post where you've backed your spew? Besides with your ever so unpopular opinion? Not! More bs from u know who!
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    Every single one of these posts is a post that I made where I leave a source on what I say.

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    StealThis Opinion got lost again
    Was looking for Fox Watch but then
    While his unhinged brain did burn
    He went left one too many a turn
    And found himself in Johnny Dollar's den

    No, I am here for a reason. Not lost. I enjoy most of the debates I get into in here...Well, the ones that actually involve politics...Not up against a contributor to the site who refuses to actually debate anything meaningful.

    STO is trying just a little too hard
    No one will accuse him of being the Bard
    What's your fucking point, little dingbat?
    One wonders where your head is really at
    It must be your brain is made of lard

    The best part of Olbermoronn's circus last night was having on explosives non-expert Larry Johnson, who knows absolutely nothing about explosives, bombs, warfare, terrorism or anything else. Johnson actually claimed that the bombs were "non-bombs" that would only do "damage to the interior of the Mercedez." He also claimed that if someone "were within 20 or 30 feet of the bomb they would have ear damage but not much more." ROTFLMAO! Go to http://powerlineblog.com/ for the video. To read what actual explosives experts say on the power of what Johnson called "non-bombs" check out abcnews.com or the Times of London website. Powerlineblog.com has the links. Of course, Johnson also claimed prior to 9/11 that terrorism was no threat. Is anyone surprised that Johnson is a darling of Miss Olbermoronn and other kook fringe leftist freaks?

    A bard...so, Im a poet? Okay Sir RhymesALot. And was it just today i heard someone say that liberals resort to name calling and here we have an example that proves the opposite. Go conservative swiftboating!

    And Dan, yes, he is. Olbermanns premise behind his show is hw discusses the days biggest stories. O'Reilly however spends time talking about things like, oh George Soros's conspiracy against the world and how he's using the left wing to work it out.

    Also, Dan, yes there are facts in politics. For example, its a fact that the War in Iraq has created more terrorists than its destroyed, but its perceived that the war on terror is working. Its a fact that Al Qaeda was not in Iraq until we invaded and did not pledge support to Bin Laden til 2004; but it was perceived that Saddam had close ties with Bin Laden(wonder where we got that idea). It is also a fact that Al Gore won the election in 2000, but it was perceived that Bush did. It is a fact that torture is wrong and immoral, but it is perceived that it is a vital tool necessary to our war on terror.

    http://www.workingassetsblog.com/2007/06/were_these_same_people_applaud.html

    After widespread slave-labor recently became widely known in China, their government passed laws improving workers rights and working conditions.

    American business' reactions?

    "Lawers representing some big global companies complained that the new law still imposed a heavy burden. 'It will be more difficult to run a company here,' said Andreas W. Lauffs, head of Baker & McKenzie's employment law group, which represents many of America's biggest corporations in China." (emphasis added)"


    Capitalism is great and all, but it needs to be chained down all of the time - except for the occasions on which you take it out and beat it with an axe handle.

    Hey, just remember Jeremy Glick (if any of you remember who he is) cannot sue Bill O'reilly because behind closed doors, Bill has said his show is just a show. So, he's allowed to lie whenever he wants. It's all opinion. He can even call himself a jounalist becasue he's allowed to tell mistruths. It's entertainment. Olbermann has half the viewers, yes, but he hasn't been on the air for ten years. O'reilly's ratings have increased 19%, Olbermann is up 67%. When Cheney said he wasn't part of the executive branch, Olbermann led with it. What did Bill do? Some story about some white woman getting kidnapped. And Chris Benoti.

    "Some story about some white woman getting kidnapped."

    Posted by: Mike at July 1, 2007 11:14 AM

    What are you, some kind of racist? What if it was a muslim that got kidnapped, or a black woman, would it be different?

    SLoB, what should take the place of capitalism? I'm curious.

    Mike,

    Jeremy Glick is a screwball who thinks the bringing down of the Taliban in Afghanistan was wrong. He also has referred to the Soviet puppet government in Afghanistan of the 1980s as a "democratic government". Regarding the election of 2000 he uses the term "Floriday coup". What a dingbat! I think you should find a more sympathetic figure to support than this clown.

    What a dingbat! I think you should find a more sympathetic figure to support than this clown.

    Posted by: Rico at July 1, 2007 11:47 AM

    Rico, the same person that uses moonbat Glick as a weak example also has aligned himself with the likes of rosie O, mike moore, wes clark, cindy sheehan, jiimy carter, russ feingold and of course, olbermahn is his hero. Need I say more?

    SLoB, what should take the place of capitalism? I'm curious.

    Posted by: at July 1, 2007 11:41 AM


    As I said; Nothing. Capitalism is great - as long as you can chain it up and thrash it when it misbehaves.

    RK, are you ignoring me? So you only respond when it works out for your advantage? When you can throw in your two cents that you try to make it out to be worth a nickel when its actually a free voucher for cake? Nothing? Not a word? I thought so, you really are a chicken shit

    stoic,no reason to be hateful unless you can't help it. I wasn't ignoring you. I tried verifying your posts with the olbywatch search engine and none of them matched anything. Some dates matched but not the times and vice verse. If you were determined to prove me wrong you could have just posted the actual posts as I would have done.

    LONDON MAYOR DEFENDS MUSLIMS

    (AFP) - London Mayor Ken Livingstone called on Britons Saturday not to demonize Muslims after a double car bomb plot was foiled in the capital, amid fears of a Islamist terror threat.


    At the same time he criticized Britain over its ties with Saudi Arabia, which he said had fuelled intolerance in the past through its Wahhabist form of Islam, creating a "major problem."

    "In this city, Muslims are more likely to be law-abiding than non-Muslims??? and less likely to support the use of violence to achieve political ends than non-Muslims," he told BBC Radio.

    "They have played a good and active and growing role in creating a multi-cultural society," he added.

    Keep in mind that out of 1.8 mil muslims in Britain, 40% of them DO NOT condemn the acts of 9/11!!!!!!

    I take a couple of weeks off for vacation and what do I return to find? Yep, Mikey still trying to insist that Olbermann's show is a NEWS show when it suits him and an OPINON show when it suits him. Can't seem to quite make up his mind. Yet he insists that O'Reilly is running a NEWS show, not an OPINION show, although that's what Fox clearly labels it as. MSNBC insists however that Olby has a NEWS show. Just so long as you are only looking for "news" in the sense that it's been lifted straight off a radical lefty website.

    I was going to post all of the post's in full, but I didnt want to take up a full board. You can use the archives, thats how I found them, it took me no longer than 10 minutes to find all those. You can do it. I went way above what you asked for, which was ONE example. I gave you 15, and thats only a start.

    And I am not being hateful, just frustrated, you accuse me of things, then make fun of me for them on other boards, I think I remember you saying, "ha! he was trying to tell me that he cites all his sources on this other board" in a demeaning tone. Now I back it up, and you cant even find them. You just wont admit that what you say is wrong, even when your presented with sources.

    OK Brandon, how about citing where I called KO's show a straight news show? You can't, because I haven't. It IS however a good news COMMENTARY show ('opinion if you wish), and for the fifty thousanth time, I personally don't give a rats ass what either network CALLS either show....they are what they are and viewers of both should be smart enough to figure it out.

    Another thing Brandon...how is it when I haven't even posted on this board for several days, and you've supposedly been on 'vacation' for two weeks....the first thing you think you need to post is to falsely alledge that I have posted something I haven't?

    Brandon and Rico: The 'Mike' that posted at 11:14 AM must be new. It wasn't me (the 'Mike' that has been posting here for months).

    MSNBC bills it as a News show Mike, and the MSM refers to Olbermann as a news anchor. You apparently have decided to label it as opinion so you won't have to face the fact that Olbermann is far more biased than anything Fox would ever dream of putting on the air.

    I smell a backpedal!

    Wrong Brandon, I have "decided to label it as opinion" because I have ALWAYS labeled it as opinon!

    And you are also wrong about KO being more biased than Fox, because that simply isn't true.

    In KO's case you have a single anchor who is biased. In Fox's case, you have an entire network that is every bit as biased right as KO is left.

    Islamic bad boys watching C-SPAN
    Saw Voinovich crying; not exactly a he-man
    "What fucking pussies those Infidels must be"
    "Surely Allah and the Prophet will make it too easy"
    "We shall destroy them all, Allah willing"
    "You bring the sword, Abdul, I'll do the killing"
    "But with GOP Senators like Voinovich all breaking down"
    "They become Dhimmicrats who recognize it's all ready our town"

    And you are also wrong about KO being more biased than Fox, because that simply isn't true.

    Posted by: "mike" at July 2, 2007 12:01 AM

    Idiotic post of the day, again!

    How many (R)'s does Olbermahn have on his show? Zero.
    How many (d)'s does Fox News (#1) have on their show, regularly? 15? 20? Who's more biased? Orangy. You are simply wrong, pal.

    It has got to be more than a week since we have seen the latest fawning tribute (#1,000 and continuously rising) to Olbermoronn from some fool writing for an American publication claiming (falsely) that Keith "Fourth Place" Olbermoronn has a "lock" on "second place". Will we see another week pass without another suck-up to Olbermoronn making the same false, discredited claims about Olbermoronn's "impressive" "ratings"
    "growth"?

    Can you show me ONE post where you've backed your spew? Besides with your ever so unpopular opinion? Not! More bs from u know who!
    Posted by: royalking at June 27, 2007 6:19 PM
    ----------------------------------------------------

    I smell a backpedal!

    Posted by: royalking at July 1, 2007 11:53 PM
    ----------------------------------------------------

    Whos backpeddling? You?

    actually yes. A lot less propagandizing.Most if not all of his topics are widely publicized verified topics.


    Posted by: at July 1, 2007 1:00 AM


    Yes, widely publicized verified topics such as a probing investigation on why Republicans hate animals.

    You are absolutely correct. These are the topics that demand attention.

    Steal This Opinion could be the most ignorant and vile poster on this site since Bushkill. Bravo, go back to the sewer you poor soui. Your name calling and anger just prove you should go refill your prescription. Bitter Dem!

    J$:

    Thanks for the great recap.
    I'm glad I missed the hour of spin.

    Little Feechie.

    How long will the UK hide the fact the terrorists are muslims? A country wide man hunt is under way and they haven't even posted a picture of who they are looking for! Sympathizing will get them no where. Will they continue to allow muslims to shout their hate right out in the street like they have in the past? Yes, they will. Will they get hit again? Yes, they will.

    7/2/2007 10:12:34 AM
    Drug Rehab

    Yes, I am bitter. I am bitter because of a few select people on this website and their constant ignorance. You obviously havent read some of the things that RK says on here or you would not be defending him, he constantly name calls, picks things out of thin air and claim them to be fact, then says that I dont source my points.

    Next time you post, grow a pair and ID yourself. Or if you would rather debate something instead of just personally attacking me.

    Dont like the messsage, attack the messenger...Sounds like a right-winger to me.

    And RK, have you ever thought for a second that maybe its irrelevant what race the terrorists were? So what they were muslim, does that mean that every muslim in the UK is going to try and set off a car-bomb? What does telling everyone that they are muslims do? Just allow everyone to start hating muslims like a good deal of people do here(like yourself) in the good ol' US of A?

    See, the Brits do this thing...They dont let terror run their lives, they are back up and running, didnt miss a beat. you dont see 1000 reports a day coming out of there with the words TERROR written bigger than the words United Kingdom(I saw that on Faux last night)

    And Anon, if I am so ignorant, why dont you try and set me straight? Thats why I am here, to debate and learn more about my political views...So, if you think I'm being ignorant on something, please, do tell. I would love to hear it...but if you dont have anything else to say, please, go away.

    Says steal:

    "And Anon, if I am so ignorant, why dont you try and set me straight?"

    END QUOTE

    Ask and ye shall recieve.

    Says steal:

    "See, the Brits do this thing...They dont let terror run their lives, they are back up and running, didnt miss a beat. you dont see 1000 reports a day coming out of there with the words TERROR written bigger than the words United Kingdom(I saw that on Faux last night)"

    END QUOTE

    Were you in England this past weekend? What other source originating from Great Britain do you quantify your ignorant fact. How the hell do you know what went on over in England. You're just another blinded, ignorant, dumbass, partisan liberal whose utter hatred of George Bush as the President and as a person makes your opinion a pile of shit. You are a sheep about to be led to slaughter.

    Says steal:

    "Yes, I am bitter."

    END QUOTE

    Um, would we expect any different from a liberal. A liberal is being bitter, angry, sour puss, a moon face, whiner, crying, chick little and most of all a giant sucker.

    Says steal:

    "See, the Brits do this thing...They dont let terror run their lives, they are back up and running"

    END QUOTE

    Again, quantify this. Compared to what you ignorant asshat? How about 9/11? YOu are just like every other liberal. As long as someone aint taking a shit in your sandbox, there are no problems in the world and none we should be addressing.

    Says steal:

    "Dont like the messsage, attack the messenger...Sounds like a right-winger to me."

    END QUOTE

    You do know you are on a message board? Yo do know about freedom of speech? Did your mommy tell you that the world doesn't spin around little Johnny? Do you ever get out of your sandbox? Do you hide under your bed living in fear of glaobal warming, the national debt, health care, income because Harry reid told you to?

    Says steal:

    "You obviously havent read some of the things that RK says on here or you would not be defending him, he constantly name calls, picks things out of thin air and claim them to be fact, then says that I dont source my points."

    END QUOTE

    You haven't read my posts yet. RK is tame to my posts. I was watching Patton this weekend. When Patton visited a filed hospital and came upon the soldier sitting in the hospital because o fhis nerves. The whole time I was laughing and thinking what Patton would do to a liberal today. Afterall, your views are inline with Rosie, Whoopi, Streisand, Sarandon just to name a few. I'd hardly call a a male whose opinion jive with theirs, maybe fag or eunocuh.

    "Hell, you're just a g'damned coward you yellow bastard".

    And you whine about what you are reading while visiting a board whose opinion is contrary to yours. Your problem is a lot more than just the war in Iraq. It's idiots like you that I hope gas goes to $10/gallon. I can afford it. I'm doing damned good under George Bush and don;t have no complaints. You ont eh other hand, it's money. Let me break to ya, you'll do no better under a liberal. It take an education and a work ethis to make money, none of whick are attributes that could be used to describe you, Mike, codas, O'lielly, sir loin, blindrat.

    *********************************

    Rudy in 2008

    Trust in the Lord. In spite of what liberals tell you, He is in control.

    11th commandment: When thouest see a liberaleth, stoneth thy liberaleth to death.

    You yellow bastards.

    I saw the clip of Olby giving man-love to anotehr loser, Letterman.

    Geez, Olby has a gut on him. I mean, dunlap is putting it mildly. He kept his legs crossed to cover it up but he looks like Rosie, or, he's pregnant.

    You can bet your ass if Olby was in England and one of those cars pulled up and someone says look, "It's car with propane tanks, gasoline and nails", Olby woudl be doing the hundred in 4.3.

    What a loser. You have to be an idiot to sit there and let this bastard tell you that terrorism is not a threat, terrorism is being used as a tool of fear or the severity or lack of from those potential attacks or that any efforts made by George Bush have done nothing more than intrude on our rights.

    Says Ohio:

    "You are absolutely correct. These are the topics that demand attention."

    END QUOTE

    I saw a clip of Pat Leahy talking about the US attorney firings. The whole time I'm thinking we have so many problems and this bastard is using partisan attacks, and personal haterd for George Bush the man in an attempt to hurt and embarrass our President. I'd give my right nut to slap the f'king hell out of that bitch. I'd bust his ear drum I'd slap him so hard.

    This same bastard rips Dick Cheney about Halliburton without any facts and hten when he meets him on the floor of the Senate, sticks his hand out and smiles. If I were Cheney I would have removed his teeeth right on the spot.

    Says O'Lielly:

    "Dan... yeah Iraq is not important.. right ? Hmm.. Newt Gingrich, Man Cuntler, blowjob lips Malkin and the whoremeister Dick Morris.. all regular Fake Noise commentators. Yeah constitutional scholars do not measure up to te likes of the Fake noise network. Just another fucking rightwing idiot."

    END QUOTE

    Um, 8 of the top 10 cable news programs are held by FOX NEWS Mr. Asshat. Um, just because someone has an opinion doesn't make them right and just because an opinion poll says they do not agree with the war in Iraq make it right. That's why it takes special values to be a leader unlike the pussyassed clinton and carters who flap in the breeze doing nothing because they are sticking their finger in the political wind, reading the tea leaves of some poll or wobbling around while standing on a fence trying to count the heads below to see which side has the most heads before they fall.

    Well, O'Lielly, go look up Murdoch and voise your opinion you chicken shit.

    CHICKEN SHIT Bill O'Lielly makes bold statements and is too pussy to bak it up. He wants to voice his opinion by pissing on a dead man's grave.

    CHICKEN SHIT O"LIELLY

    CHICKEN SHIT O"LIELLY

    CHICKEN SHIT O"LIELLY

    CHICKEN SHIT O"LIELLY

    CHICKEN SHIT O"LIELLY

    CHICKEN SHIT O"LIELLY

    Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin make more money in a day than you make in a year.

    Michelle Malkin says you are a pussy. Ann Coulter says you are a lying, losing, ugly, whiner.

    You gonna beat up some woman?

    You're problem is you are not getting any, gas prices, global warming..........

    If you can't make it in this economy, I hate to break it to ya, you aint going to make it period.

    Fucking loser.

    The Lord shall set you free, whoa glory.


    "How the hell do you know what went on over in England. You're just another blinded, ignorant, dumbass, partisan liberal whose utter hatred of George Bush as the President and as a person makes your opinion a pile of shit. You are a sheep about to be led to slaughter."
    END QUOTE

    "Instead of hysteria, we respond by being blase and getting on with it. Last night, I went to the theatre (to see an American play, funnily enough!) and it was packed again, like it is every Saturday night."
    -from a Diary by Londoner, justforkix

    Londoners arent the chicken shits that we are over here. They dont get frazzled like we do about terror attacks. They deal with it, move on with life, and try and stop them in the future. Over here, however, this attempted terror attack will be the topic of news for the next several weeks and Bush will claim full responsibility for stopping it. The fact that I dislike Bush is not what we are talking about here, and my dislike of the man does not have anything to do with my opinion on other matters. Actually, my dislike of him shows that Im paying attention to the news thus means my opinion is more valid. And, respectfully, I would have to say that your blindly following Bush's policies on war and the stripping of civil liberties would much more reflect a sheep on the way to the slaughter than my protesting of his policies.

    And yes, I am wholly aware that this is a message board...obviously you missed my point. My point was that you people do not attack my message, as a matter of fact most of what I have said on these boards remains effectively true with little having been done in the way of refuting it...so instead I get personal attacks based on my political views. Get it?

    "You haven't read my posts yet. RK is tame to my posts"
    END QUOTE

    I have read your posts, dumbshit. Ive called you out on a few of them, but obviously you missed that. Ive called you vile, ignorant, and just outright stupid, go check it out, Ive said it a few times.

    "Afterall, your views are inline with Rosie, Whoopi, Streisand, Sarandon just to name a few. I'd hardly call a a male whose opinion jive with theirs, maybe fag or eunocuh."
    END QUOTE

    Okay, once again, attack the messenger, not the message. So your logic is that since I agree with something a few lesbians said that means that I'm gay myself...gotcha, this is the same logic that leads you to believe Bush is good for this country, right? Enough said. I get my opinions from my own analysis of the news and happenings around the world...Ive never actually watched "The View" once, nor have I ever really listened to what Rosie has to say, Yes I've backed her up on here once or twice, but that doesnt mean that I sit down and listen to the messages she spreads.

    "It take an education and a work ethis to make money"
    END QUOTE

    ETHICS* and You obviously do not work with me, I work hard, I work often and yes things will be better once we stop allowing these fucking corporations to shit on the rest of the U.S. and I'm pretty sure Edwards or Obama are just the right guys to do that.

    "terrorism is being used as a tool of fear"
    END QUOTE

    yes, terrorism is being used a tool of fear...By our government.

    "They hate our freedom."
    -Bush 9/20/01

    Says the man that suspended habeus corpus, condones the practice of torture, and has instigated a program of warrant-less wiretapping on the citizens of his own country.

    "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
    -Bush same speech

    So we're being scared into thinking that if we dont support all of Bush's policies then we are a terrorist ourselves...gotcha, So who is the fearmonger?

    Showing your ignorance again Stealy one?

    Stealy- "Londoners arent the chicken shits that we are over here."

    Response: Just another dumb statement by a anti-american liberal.

    Stealy continues- "They dont get frazzled like we do about terror attacks. They deal with it, move on with life, and try and stop them in the future."

    Response- The last terrorist attack in the USA killed 3,000 people you idiot. And yes it caused us 'so called chickenshit americans" to tighten up a little. It was the largets domestic attack EVER.

    Over here, however, this attempted terror attack will be the topic of news for the next several weeks and Bush will claim full responsibility for stopping it.


    Response: Check the London Times... two straight days of countless bombing stories and recap. But in your little world only fox news is covering the bombing to the highest degree. See you deal in your feeling and not facts. That is why you are so ignorant.

    Here's a newspaper link. Not a blog link
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/global/

    I now prove that you are even MORE ignorant than yesterday. You are ignorant, anti-american, and vile. And dumb too. Even fellow libs lik Mike can't defend your stupidity.

    Btw, here are a few screenshots from Fox News. Ya know, the fair and balanced network?

    My Favorite is when they call Mark Foley a Dem.

    http://welcome-to-pottersville.blogspot.com/2007/03/fox-news-at-its-finest.html

    And an article about Fox calling Obama Osama, including screenshots.

    http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53606

    "Also, Dan, yes there are facts in politics. For example, its a fact that the War in Iraq has created more terrorists than its destroyed, but its perceived that the war on terror is working. Its a fact that Al Qaeda was not in Iraq until we invaded and did not pledge support to Bin Laden til 2004; but it was perceived that Saddam had close ties with Bin Laden(wonder where we got that idea). It is also a fact that Al Gore won the election in 2000, but it was perceived that Bush did. It is a fact that torture is wrong and immoral, but it is perceived that it is a vital tool necessary to our war on terror."

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at July 1, 2007 6:30 AM


    Please provide the source where you can prove to me that it is indeed a FACT that Al Qaeda was not in Iraq until we invaded it or that it is a 100% FACT that Saddam had no ties to Al Qaeda. Let me guess, your information comes from lefty MSNBC or possibly Air America. I hope your not dum enough to believe that what Air America says is true, there is a reason why they are bankrupt today.Fact of the matter is, yes , Iraq had no WMD's when we attacked them in '03, but is there no doubt that he wouldnt have had them say, 10 years from now. Iran is developing them as we speak, would Iraq follow, something tells me, yes. The only thing that is a FACT here indeed is that Saddam hated America with a passion, was a brutal dictator and killed thousands upon thousand of Shiites and would threaten to kill anyone who did not vote for him for president each term.He would have loved to get his hands on WMD's if he had the chance to. This world, and this country in particular, is safer to live in in the long run, no matter how much of a spin MSNBC will give you.
    As for Gore winning the election, you dont win by gaining the most popular vote in the entire country, only by each state's electoral vote, and it came down to Florida-Bush wounded up having slightly more votes than Mr. Hypocrite on Global Warming did back in 2000 in Florida, so he became president fair and sqaure, case closed, I AM OUT!

    "Just another dumb statement by a anti-american liberal."

    Hey, asshole. Dont label me un-american. I am very PRO-American. That is why I advocate oversight on our country, accountability for actions taken, and not taken, question the government. Those who blindly follow the government then wrap themselves in the American flag are no more American than those who question the government and wave the American flag.

    "Response- The last terrorist attack in the USA killed 3,000 people you idiot. And yes it caused us 'so called chickenshit americans" to tighten up a little. It was the largets domestic attack EVER."

    Dont misrepresent what I am trying to say. Yes, 9/11 was a big deal, a huge deal and I am deeply saddened every time I think about it...but every time I do that I begin to think what the state of this country was in when 9/11 happened and how that event has allowed our leaders to turn this country into the crock of shit it is now all in the name of anti-terrorism. Suspension of Habeus Corpus, Torture, Illegal Spying, Blowing ATTEMPTS way out of proportion. Do not insinuate that I am trying to downplay 9/11. It was a lesson we needed to learn from, but instead we just let our government use it to scare us into submission and strip away our civil liberties.

    In response to your third response. Once again, its the spin put on the story that makes it bad. It is a newsworthy topic, and its only been 2 days, not weeks, like I said. I was not trying to suggest they just ignore it, i was suggesting that they do not let it determine their lives. Understand?

    So you've PROVED I'm more ignorant...huh?
    How exactly did you do that? Misrepresenting what I tried to say? Gotcha, ignorant, yes. Obviously I am.

    Didnt I already tell you to grow a pair? Or was that some other chickenshit anon?

    > And an article about Fox calling Obama Osama, including screenshots.

    STO, you really have a problem with the truth. I followed your link about the eeevil Fox calling Obama Osama. And guess what? It ain't true! Maybe you should look at that screenshot yourself. It turns out it was the Holy Grail, CNN, that did it, NOT Fox.

    I don't know why you would lie about that, given that you provided the ilnk that proves you wrong. But it shows the lengths Olbypologists will go to divert attention.

    and who cares about habeas corpus, these schmucks that are in Guatanamo dont deserve any rights. As for torturing them, most of the terror tactics our soliders are using are greatly exagerrated, again that's because most of the media in this country is left-wing oriented and will do ANYTHING possible to make Bush and his administration look bad. I have a friend whose brother was actually stationed in Guatanamo for several months. He told us that those prisoners are animals, they would spit at you every moment they got, try to urinate on you, insult you and your family and threaten to kill each solider as soon as they got out of there. But of course, that sort of news wont ever appear on most left wing stations. They tru to amke it appear as though they are innocent, harmless people. So to the ACLU and all those prisoners of war sympothizers, I say-torture them and do what it takes to keep those villians under control.

    yeah, Johnny it's not only Olby that has a problem with giving you the entire story truthfully, it's his entire audience (all 10 of them).

    "The Sept. 11 commission reported yesterday that it has found no "collaborative relationship" between Iraq and al Qaeda, challenging one of the Bush administration's main justifications for the war in Iraq."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47812-2004Jun16.html

    Ive never been on the Air American website, dumbass. I didnt even know it existed. WHY DOES NO ONE BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY I GET MY INFO FROM MAINSTREAM MEDIA SOURCES?!?!?! well over 75% of the sources Ive posted on here are from mainstream sources. Jesus christ.

    "U.S. inspector finds no evidence Saddam made weapons after 1991"

    So, yeah, 10 years from now we would have had WMD's despite the fact that there was no evidence he'd made them in over 10 years...Gotcha.

    http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/iraq/20041006-1210-us-iraq-weapons.html

    "it came down to Florida-Bush wounded up having slightly more votes than Mr. Hypocrite on Global Warming did back in 2000 in Florida, so he became president fair and sqaure"

    Umm..except for all those black voters whose votes didnt get counted. Then when the representatives stood up for those areas not a single member of the Republican controlled senate would come to their help. Fair and Square.

    Yes, Saddam was a brutal dictator and he did hate America. But did he attack us? No. Did he threaten an attack? No. Did he have anything to do with those that did attack us? No. I would not doubt that Saddam would need to lose power at some point, but I do not agree with our intervention in the situation. Especially considering the overall damage it has done to the REAL War on Terror in the country that did harbor those that attacked us. Not to mention the countries we didnt invade (Saudi Arabia who had 16 of the 19 hijackers being citizens of this country).


    ---------------------------------------
    Taken from Senator Levin's report entitlted: Report of an Inquiry into the Alternative Analysis of the
    Issue of an Iraq-al Qaeda Relationship
    released on 10/21/04

    "According to Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism chief,
    President Bush told him three times on September 12 to go back and look for
    evidence that Saddam was involved in the 9/11 attacks, including “any shred”
    of evidence."

    "Bin Ladin resented the secularism of Saddam
    Hussein’s regime"

    Sounds like a working relationship to me

    Dumb Ass Stealy-

    THIS IS YOUR STATEMENT- NOT MINE
    "Londoners arent the chicken shits that we are over here."

    Sounds very pro-american to me. NOT! You are a typical whiney anti-american liberal. Bitch-bitch-bitch. Refill the prozac libbey. You may see the glass half full for once.

    > yeah, Johnny it's not only Olby that has a problem with giving you the entire story truthfully, it's his entire audience (all 10 of them).

    You said it. They think the best way to be Olbypologists is to come over here and tell lies about Fox News. OlbyLogic at work.

    JDollar. Now I feel dumb, that truely was an honest mistake. I was just getting a little into the research and I didnt pay close enough attention. I know what I say is often skewed, but I swear, that was unintentional.

    But in that case, Fuck CNN.

    and Dan, to your second post

    I care about Habeus Corpus, Padilla does too, as does the German citizens we fucked with, and the Canadian one we tortured. Anyone that loves America should love Habeus Corpus, its a law that exemplifies almost everything America (used to) stand for, Liberty and Fairness.

    "most of the terror tactics our soliders are using are greatly exagerrated"
    Do I need to post the pictures from Abu Ghraib again?

    "We told us that those prisoners are animals, they would spit at you every moment they got, try to urinate on you, insult you and your family and threaten to kill each solider as soon as they got out of there"

    If I was being held as an enemy combatant without a trail or attorney, I would hate the U.S. and the soldiers that were holding me too. Just a thought. Not to mention, this kind of shit happens in alot of prisons.

    Ballless Anon, Thats all you had to say against what I posted back? So I made good points huh?

    And me thinking the American PEOPLE are chickenshits does not mean that I hate America. This country rocks, we had freedom, liberty, all that good stuff. I'll repeat myself, I have a beef with the way that the people are blindly following all the governments policies. I love this country, thats why I argue.

    > Now I feel dumb, that truely was an honest mistake. I was just getting a little into the research and I didnt pay close enough attention. I know what I say is often skewed, but I swear, that was unintentional.

    Now am I supposed to believe you? Follow: You cite a screenshot where Foley has a (D) after his name. You don't mention that all of the voice-over reporting identified him as a Republican, repeatedly. You don't mention that when the report re-aired, and in all subsequent reports, the mistake was corrected. But do you accept it as a mistake? No, you proudly post it as something Fox did on purpose. It's your "proof" that they're not "fair and balanced".

    OK. Just as I do with Olbermann, I'm going to use your own standards on you. I don't believe you. Just like you, I won't accept it as a mistake. Therefore you did it on purpose, to smear Fox and promote your agenda.

    So there.

    I as a progressive believe that government can solve most of my problems. I believe that there should be a balanced transference of wealth from those who have it to me. I think the rich people should provide me with health care. I believe that anyone who can get across the borders and live here for a while undetected should be allowed to stay. I think rich people should pay for my children's education including college. I believe we all could give just a little more to our government and good things will happen. What have I left out? Oh yes, I hate George Bush, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove, Scooter Libby and Haliburton, what else was there?

    Finally, some info on the TERRORISTS.

    The junior doctor has been named as Bilal Abdulla, who is said to have completed his medical training in Baghdad.


    The suspected ringleader of the Al Qaeda car bombers is a brilliant neurologist working for the NHS.


    Saudi Mohammed Asha, 26, was arrested with his 27-year-old wife, who was in traditional Muslim dress, on the M6 in Cheshire on Saturday night.

    And Bill O'rally, Dan Coultergist, Mashells A'Milkin, Shinsanity, Lush Rimjob...and Haliburton x2

    Yes, I did do it on purpose. However the Foley thing was not an isolated incident. It happened twice. I was not aware there was an apology about it, and I did search for one, so once again, Will you provide a source? Nor did I know that they ID'd him as a Repub on the voice-over, none the less, the damage was done in the minds of alot of people. Graphics are far more powerful than words. And all you have to say about those screenshots was the Foley thing? What were there 30 different screenshots on that page?

    And yes, I really did not do that on purpose. I know theres little reason to believe me, but I know, in my heart, it was an accident. None the less, since It wasnt a fox thing, I can not hold it against fox, but I can and will hold it against CNN, because no matter who did it, it was shitty.

    STOSLOBAAPPCRETINS

    You're cute. That was kind of funny.

    ok, let's not stick up for Jose Padilla, a man who, if I recall correctly, tried to make a "dirty Bomb" and use them in subways or buildings in NYC, meaning try to kill as many innocent people as possible. You think anyone cares about Padilla's rights, come on now, unless you work for the ACLU. In reference to Abu Gharib, that happened in Iraq, it has nothing to do with those animals in Guatanamo Bay.And even if I didnt have an attorney or was being held there without good justification, does that give me the right to piss on a US solider or split on them or threaten to kill his children? Some people still have class in this and restraint in this world, those captives dont.

    JD- It seems like the ignorant love to get their FACTS from websites like media matters and pundits like olbermann. Why do these people hang out at such a beacons of untruth and come here claiming to be informed. Best of all they call US stupid? Tsk-tsk. Mr. Opinion, have you no shame?

    > And all you have to say about those screenshots was the Foley thing?

    Yes because it's one Olbermann-like distortion after another. For example, the very first screenshot shows a banner saying Libby found not guilty of something. They don't show you the shots before and after where the banner goes through all the counts he WAS found guilty of.

    This particular lie was exposed by me some time ago:

    http://homepage.mac.com/mkoldys/iblog/C1049953760/E20070306201314/index.html

    And yet, MSNBC (naturally) repeated it on air as if they were reporting truth.

    Man, you swallow anything you see? It's easy when you have no idea what you're talking about I guess. Just keep this discussion on Olbermann. Your fantasies and recirculated lies about Fox are an obvious diversion.

    Dan, I referenced Torture, not Guantanamo. You're the one that tried sticking to Guan, not me. Most prisoners dont have class, its just the way of the world. Why do you think prisons are so hard to live/work in? Ill stick up for Padilla, a man, if I recall, did not have charges brought before him til 2005, three years after his arrest. Was not charged, then had some charges dropped.

    JDollar. Now weve talked about 2 of the 30...do you have 28 exuses for the other panels? A

    nd Anon, ive gone over this tons of time, I get my info from mainstream sources and I do not blindly follow whatever people tell me. I have plenty of shame, but what I'm saying here I sincerely believe, and until someone can prove me wrong on it, I will continue to believe it. I hope what I believe is not true, but I have yet to see substantial evidence to the contrary.

    tonight's #5 story on Meltdown will be some spin about how this new attack over the weekend in Glasgow is "over hyped", "scared tactics" are being used and all is well in the world. Speical guests on this topic will include OJ Simpson, followed by Mickey Mouse. Wouldnt most people believe them as much as Olby's usual sock puppets?

    and JDollar, once again, the damage had been done by those people just flipping through the stations. That kind of 'journalism' is wreckless and wrong.

    Are you dense? I have "excuses"? That's what you call telling the truth and exposing lies?

    I told you this is an Olbermann site, not a Fox hater's dog pound. If you think repeating old stale lies about eeevil Fox News is going to help Oralmann, you are sorely mistaken. Take that discussion somewhere else.

    Okay JDollar, I get it. You try and defend it, but when you run out of ideas you harp on the THIS IS AN OLBERMANN SITE bull shit. That original post was in response to Laura Bush earlier who was talking about fox news.

    STO- Thou does protest too much. Those screenshots are not from mainstream sources. They are from lefty blogs. Media Matters is hardly mainstream unless you are accounting for the liberal slant of the mainstream media.

    And Dan, nothing else to say? Ill assume the debate was mine, and once again. You people have done nothing to pursuade me from my evil leftist views.

    Jesus. I said over 75% of my sources are mainstream. Not every fucking one of them. Of course those screenshots are from leftyblogs. What mainstream source in their right mind would run that story? Aside from Olbermann.

    Hey StealThisOpinion, what are your views on William Jefferson and Sandy Berger?

    Clinton should not have been impeached for geting a BJ. and Sandy Berger should have been punished a little more severely than a slap on the wrist for stealing and destroying federal, classified documents.

    what can I say Steal-

    you feel sorry for murderers like Jose Padilla and symphatize with the captives being held in Guatanamo, those that pee on our soliders, who have dont nothing to them. Yo also think that Fox is biased, meanwhile MSNBC is reality based news. Do I really want to debate with soemone as misinformed as you?

    Clinton should not have been impeached for geting a BJ.

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at July 2, 2007 4:34 PM

    It is arguable whether Clinton should have been impeached.

    However, that opinion should be based upon more of an understanding of the case than the above statement suggests.

    C- These same people who think Clinton was wrongly impeached, toasted their champagne glasses when Scooter Libby was convicted. Hypocritical libs! Amnesty for Scooter!

    7/2/2007 3:07:57 PM
    Drug Rehab

    Sandy Berger should have been punished a little more severely than a slap on the wrist for stealing and destroying federal, classified documents.

    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at July 2, 2007 4:34 PM

    You are the FIRST olbyloon that I have ever seen say this, here. I can't believe it!

    I'll be here at OW when Libby is pardoned by Bush. SWEEEEEEEET! Another bad day in the miserable life of AAP. And payback for the Marc Rich pardon is a bitch aint it. It's Bush's right and you can't say a thing weenie. HAahahahahahahahah

    Dan, MSNBC, on the whole is a fair network. They have very liberal shows, and very conservative shows; however, I will not pretend for a second that Keith is fair. He is extremely biased.

    And when you post my views like that it sounds so bad, however, I am just for the rights of people, even the imprisoned. Have you ever thought, for just a second, that maybe if we were giving the prisoners down there fair treatment, right to a speedy trial, right to an attorney, right to defend themselves in court that maybe, just maybe, they wouldnt hate us to the point that they piss on our soldiers? I do not condone this type of action in the least, however, in the eyes of the prisoners, Im sure they feel justified. I do sympathize with them, I am saddened by what they have done or talked about doing but that does not give us the right to treat them like we do.

    Okay, Cecelia. Clinton should not have been impeached for lying under oath about getting a BJ. It was a BJ for christs sake, didnt hurt anything, didnt mess anything up. Just was a BJ.

    And scooter outed a CIA operative. Actually affected people, hurt the national security? What did Clinton do? Stain a dress?

    RK, why do you people seem so suprised when I actually say something that backs up my opinions? I dont care who the crook is...Repub, Dem...they deserve to be thrown in jail and punished for their actions.

    Better yet- google Clinton's Melvin J. Reynolds pardon. He never hurt anyone. Kids don't vote. Bitter libs!

    Oh jesus. Thats pathetic. If anything he should have been impeached for pardoning that asshole. Not for the BJ though

    Olbyloon Ed 101

    News flash to olbyloons. Clinton WASN'T impeached for fondling anything he could get his hands on, abusing the Oval Office or getting a (sad excuse) for a bj. He was impeached for lying under oath. Receiving a bj, good or bad, is still legal in most states. Secondly, if the Pillsbury Dough Girl knew what she was doing, there wouldn't have been any evidence! End of story......

    Well, you may not be 100% democrat apologist afterall

    RK, are you telling me that if you had cheated on your wife and gotten a BJ from an intern and then was asked about it in a public arena in front of said wife and most of the American public...You would just own up to everything on the spot? My question is, why were they investigating it to begin with?

    So if I might point out. Today I have gone up against JDollar, Dan, Some Ball-less Anon poster, RK, Cecelia, and kind of James and not a one of them could prove me wrong. Or even mount credible evidence against my "spew"(as RK would call it). Kind of makes you wonder if I actually know what Im saying...doesnt it?

    This did not happen in a vacuum. Clinton was being sued for sexual harassment in the workplace. He denied he had a well documented penchant for dabbling with the office hotties. The attorneys successfully presented Monica. He lied under oath.... "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" Impeachable! Cue the whining democrats now please.

    I just feel it is very hypocritical of anyone to say that Clinton deserved it while defending the impeachment arguments against Cheney and Bush. When Clinton Lied, No One Died. So as long as you maintain Bush doesnt deserve it, I will maintain Clinton did not.

    The best part of your ignorance is- you don't know how dumb you come off with that BS.

    Johnny Dollar proved your anti-fox screenshots were both wrong and misrepresented.

    Cecelia showed why its stupid for you to trivialize the impeachment case down to a blow job. Or rather lying about a BJ. It was far more.

    I reposted your "chickenshit americans" comment which represented you anti-american stance. You denied the statement was a demonstration of your anti-american tone.

    And You think you are an excellent debater. You become more ignorant with each keystroke.

    You should stay at media matters. Those dumb people must make you feel smart.

    Steal-

    before I leave work soon, your posts with me are more based on opinions, so I cant prove you right or wrong nor can you do to me. But back to the Bush-Gore 2000 Florida vote, what you might not no is the Miami Herald discovered that over 5,000 Florida felons, not legally allowed to vote, apparently did. And given that 85 percent of them were registered Democrats, Gore's vote count should probably have had thousands subtracted from it. In that case, Bush wins Florida and becomes president, no whining about that.

    Never argue with an idiot like Steal My Opinion. He'll drag you down to their level and beat you with his experience.

    Stolen, oh yeah, that was really good. Drag you down to my level. So does that mean Ill start debating you on things that I know, using facts and unbiased sources to back up my points then question those that do back off? What level do you debate at? The first grade level?

    Anon, He refuted 2 of over 30 panels, poorly at that. So, my point still stands. How many fucking times do I have to say this. I dont read that blog. I sourced it once that I can remember, and I only found it through google. If my BS is so dumb why cant anyone really come up with a good point against it? I invite you, please, teach me.

    My Chickenshit americans comment was not Anti-American. Read what I said earlier, can you not distinguish between people and the governmental system? Is that not allowed? Americans are chickenshits, we're letting these bullies in office push us around, ruin our name, run up our deficit, destroy our liberties, kill innocent civilians, kill innocent soldiers..all In our name. Is that anti-American to what to stand up to that?

    And Dan, point taken. I hadnt heard that fact being quoted yet. Ill check it out, and if it does check out, Ill concede that point.

    Sto, you were wrong for implying clinton was impeached for a bj, which he wasn't. I can't speak for the others on your "list."

    He was impeached for lying about a BJ. Already said that. Is that really all the defense you have? What about the statement earlier..."show me one source". What about all the other lies and spews you've thrown on this board?

    stealy, I've never lied about anything.....that's a lie in and of it's self.

    What about, "ive never seen evidence of the first part" Despite the over 15 references on this board I was able to bring forward. And those were just in two blocks. I can imagine if we peruse the rest of the month of May and June we'll find countless more.

    What about, "ive never seen evidence of the first part" Despite the over 15 references on this board I was able to bring forward. And those were just in two blocks. I can imagine if we peruse the rest of the month of May and June we'll find countless more.

    > Anon, He refuted 2 of over 30 panels, poorly at that.

    STOp, I have my own blog where I have refuted hundreds of lies. This is not that blog. The topic here is Olbermann and HIS lies. Apparently your idea of logic is keep falling back on the tu quoque fallacy. Do not try to hijack this site or this thread with your recycled echo chamber fanatasies. Stay at least tangentially on topic.

    Bush is going to commute Scooter Libby's prison term; sentenced to probation and a fine only.

    Gee, I wonder what Olby's top story will be tonight? I can't wait for the balanced discussion giving both sides of this decision.

    Patsy, ask and ye shall receive:

    I just heard that GWB is going to commute the prison term but noy issue a full pardon.

    Grammie

    Scooter Libby's prison term to be "commuted" buy Bush. You can start crying now, mexican patty!

    7/2/2007 4:47:35 PM
    Drug Rehab

    I told ya, stealy, none of your posts were verifiable. None of the dates or times matched.

    Does anyone know enough about the legal intricacies and rules to know if Libby can continue his appeal of the conviction?

    I would think he could continue that, but who knows. The law can be very illogical and contra intuitive.

    Grammie

    "A certain anchor on a certain network's head is exploding right now," Fox News analyst. Nail on the fat orange head!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT1zjs0y6Z4

    You guys are always complaining that Olbermann covers made up stories, and that Fox is "real news" Hah! Check out the link above.

    Lesbian gangs with pink pistols threatening our cities? O'Reilly is nuts.

    Janet, Libby still has the right to appeal,but, he would be nuts to do so given the circumstances.

    STO, you pride yourself on your devotion to the FACTS. How do you reconcile that with this false statement:

    "And scooter outed a CIA operative. Actually affected people, hurt the national security? What did Clinton do? Stain a dress?
    Posted by: StealThisOpinion at July 2, 2007 5:06 PM"

    Let me clue you in.

    Richard Armitage, Under Secretary of State to Secretary Powell leaked her status to Richard Novak.

    Shortly after the furor erupted he called Secretary Colin Powell and admitted he feared he was the one who accidentally gave Novak the info.

    Special Counsel Fitspatrick was informed by them that Armitage was THE LEAKER within two or three days of starting his investigation.

    They BOTH kept silent, as did Fitspatrick, while Cheney, Rove and The White House were being flayed alive in the press and by the two lovebirds, Wilson and Plame for trying discredit Wilson. BTW, it was Plame who recommended her husband, Wilson, to go to Niger.

    When he announced Libby's indictment Fitspatrick himself said that Plame was NOT a covert agent and there would be no charges based on that.

    I may have misstated some of the above a bit (esp whether Armitage informed Powell within days of the Novak article or Fitspatrick's appointment). It has been months and I am speaking from memory. I do, though, stand by it overall.

    Some of those bedrock facts that you are standing on are actually quicksand.

    Grammie

    Let me test how good or bad my memory really is.

    Novak wrote his column after Wilson falsely claimed he had been sent to Niger by VP Cheney, although the record shows his wife recommended him. VP Cheney made a general request for verification of the yellow cake assertions.

    Wilson misrepresented his report in an Op-Ed piece in the NYT.

    Have at it, guys and gals.

    I am sure that I must have misstated something.

    Grammie

    nobody cares, you are a very desperate olbyloon, for sure. You still can't post anything where I said "Fox News is left wing," which is what YOU said I said. Try as you may, spinmaster. Two, I never said I didn't post the boycottsp's website. Putting words in my mouth doesn't prove jack shit, except you are an idiot that has not ever made a single valid point!

    Every president has the ability to commute sentences and/or grant pardons. Your hero Clinton certainly handed out quite a few pardons on his way out the door in 2000, including to convicted felons who had contributed heavily to his pocket. Today Bush acknowledged Libby's guilt and did not exonerate him in any way, other than to commute the sentence. But I'm confused, weren't the liberals screaming to have Bush pardon Libby right after he was convicted so you could make political hay out of it? You ought to be thrilled-jumping up and down and screaming from the rooftops. But nope, same old angry liberals, always have to bitch about something. Really, you people need to get some anger-management classes or something.

    NBC news just interviewed Al Queda operatives in the name of "journalism."
    Total propaganda...nothing new gained.

    NBC is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    Case closed.

    Scooters free

    Scooters free

    YAAAY......YAAAY

    Olbermann is going to go nuts tonight over Scooter Libby... I predict a special comment in the next 48 hours.

    There's nothing you can do about the commuted sentence Liberals: EAT IT! Even the Supreme Court has no power to overturn a president's commuting a sentence, just as they have no power to turn over a pardon. It's a power of the office. For an extra added bonus, I get to watch liberal loon heads explode tonight over this, including Olbermoron's! I'm going to go pop some corn now.

    Clinton's Foreign Policy failure after failure

    Blocking the UN from preventing 700,000 Rwandan deaths!
    Sudan cruise missile attack!
    Bombing the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade!
    Kosovo bombing w/coward clarks assistance!
    Relations with Cuba

    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.

    Giving terrorists a platform in America.

    The pardon hurts Hilary....the second effect.

    Fox News posted the story from the Associated Press. Clarification: The McNulty story. It wasn't a Fox News story but a story from the AP picked up cable news.
    http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:qilDMOKaHkcJ:www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,272254,00.html+foxnews.com+mcnulty+resign&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a
    Posted by: Sharon at July 2, 2007 7:18 PM

    nobody cares must enjoy making a fool out himself. Did all of you loons go to the same continuation school?

    I heard about the debate but don't know the details. It's on the to do list. Hitchens has a brother (Peter) who is a Christian and has been against the war. Peter wrote a review of the book God (I will capitalize) Is Not Great.

    Care to document this, Whatizname.

    "You did pass the right wing blog version of what really happened, but it has no bearing with the truth.
    Posted by: Why do you care what my name is at July 2, 2007 8:14 PM"

    Are you are claiming that Richard Armitage, Under Secretary of State, did not communicate his concern to Secretary of State Powell that he was the one to spill the beans and they informed Fitspatrick of this in the very early stages?

    Grammie

    nobody cares, how do you know what "bob" was trying to do? Oh, it's beacause he's you, fool! I've already said this,but, you posted the little fox news link AFTER I said what I said, nut job!

    Are you claiming that charges were brought against someone of the very serious offense of outing an undercover agent?

    Grammie

    What Bob was trying to do was prove Jeff wrong with his own source of news.
    Jeff was wrong about the crux of the story and using Fox News to prove him wrong was sweet on Bob's part.
    Posted by: Why do you care what my name is at July 2, 2007 8:25 PM

    So what? Are you going to dance around the house now?

    Are you claiming that the 9/11 Commission Report did not note that Wilson lied about who recommended him for the Niger job?

    Grammie

    Are you claiming that the 9/11 Commission Report did not note that Wilson lied about who recommended him for the Niger job?

    Grammie

    Janet, don't expect nobody cares to come up with an intelligent rebuttal to his spew.

    Hey, RK, you responded to them. What about the lie I totally caught you in? You still havent responded to that other than, "durrrrrr, I cant figure out how to look at those posts...Durrrrrr...You're still wrong...durrrrr" Grow a pair and own up, a-hole.

    Janet, let me rephrase then with this new information. Libby got in the way of an investigation that would have revealed who really outed CIA Agent Valerie Plame. Which actually could have hurt the national security even worse because the man that actually committed the crime is still on the loose, courtesy of Mr. Libby. So the point still stands, the crime hurt our national security, even worse than I would have originally guessed considering the man that did it is still running about, probably doing what they can to get in the way of other things...like not responding to Congressional subpoena's.

    J Dollar: "The topic here is Olbermann and HIS lies"
    I love how you resort back to this every time you run out of things to say. I cant imagine that on your website you've refuted all of those screenshots that were on the site. If you have, please show me where, otherwise, you're just a propaganda-defending blowhard.

    Surprise!

    Joe Wilson will be interviewed by Keith Olbermann tonight on COUNTDOWN....

    http://thenewshole.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/07/02/253938.aspx


    RK, I've noticed the same thing myself.

    Earlier today I went to FoxNews.com to see what they were saying about the Terrorist Attacks in England. I clicked on their link, which was right up there in bold print:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=3336148

    So, the ROUTE to ABC News somehow discounts everything in the ABC report. Only to the Moonbats.

    Grammie

    What is that RK is supposed to have lied about? Something about McNulty?

    Steal,

    Libby got in the way of an investigation that would have revealed who really outed CIA Agent Valerie Plame.

    ***

    Richard Armitage outed Valerie Plame. Just google and drop your uninformed statement.

    stealy, try posting your supposed proof, tought guy.

    Olbyonesidedkanoby lies in the first 30 seconds! "the President lied us into war!" DING! He so soon forgets that Billary, Edwards (got my hedge fund, "I'm for the little guy") Ketchup Kerry and a whole dirty laundry list of other dems were saying the same thing, Shoe shine boy had WMD! Someone has to come up with a better word to decsribe orangy, "deplorable" is being to nice.

    Looks like not a peep on the terrorists story, apparently Libby is MUCH more important on PlanetOlbyonesidedkanoby! It's all Libby all the time!

    I can't wait for Malkin Factor to kick his ass tonight!

    We should hang and convict Bush by dawn and have him swinging from the gallows by tomorrow at midnight.

    RoyalKing,, Yep,, thanks for expressing to all of us how brainwashed dumb fuckers like you and the rest of the Faux audience is.

    Cecelia, don't mind the loons, they're just spinning their wheels in desperation mode, trying to catch me in a "lie."

    to the satisfaction of all us who come here to laugh at this moron.

    ***

    Can't you think of something more constructive to do? RK could be AL Gore as far as you know. You spend your time trying to make a fool of someone whose true identity you don't even know and get personal satisfaction out of it? Johnny Dollar and Robert Cox at least know who Olby is!

    classic countdown in the works !!

    cue the violins !!!!

    Sharon, I take that last comment personal, Al Gorey? NOOOO! Secondly, haven't you noticed they can't come up with a single defense for the deporable one? No. 1 "news" on meltdown is Libby? 8 arrests in the terrorist attempts in UK and Libby is top "news?" What a joke.

    . This is going to end the error of the GOP for a long, long time... Here is to hoping that the next GOP convention is the target of a terror attack.

    Keith's head is exploding !!!

    Plus, Sharon sticks up for the proven liar, RK.

    Honor among thieves and criminals and now liars.

    Posted by: at July 2, 2007 9:20 PM
    Proven? Did I miss something?

    The pardon hurts Hillary because of her slime ball husband's history of historical pardons on the way out from his oral-sex loving presidency.

    I see that Hillary has issued NO statements yet on the Libby pardon... Coincidence?

    Even Hillary nose what a stone can do in a glass house.

    Very Rovian here...Very Rovian...

    The pardon hurts Hillary.

    Crazy Keith now has a "white house in crisis" graphic, with bumper music.....More proof the Citizen Keith watches the olbermannwatch

    Dana is a very bitter sock puppet tonight.

    "gurgle of anger"....scripture of Olby

    "cronyism and ideology, trump justice".......Hillary "my husband bangs bimbos" Clinton.

    . Litle Feechie.. try again asshole.. Hillary has spoken... I sure would love to see a strong democrat just come out and torture Bush to within an inch of his life, so the rest of America could piss on him.

    Orangy called Bush gutless because he didn't go on tv to make the Libby announcement. All he did was "commute" his sentence. Funny, I don't remember Clinton going on tv when he pardoned at least a 2 dozen people that were ACTUAL criminals, hard core criminals, coke dealers included! Don't believe me? Read it and weep.

    http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pardonchartlst.htm

    Leave it to NBC News to DOWNPLAY the terrorist attempts in Britain and INTERVIEW, YES INTERVIEW Al Queda terrorists.

    Is it any wonder that NBC is Al Jazeera @ 30 Rock?

    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.
    NBC News is Al Jazeera at 30 Rock.

    O'Liely, you're irrelevant.
    Hilary was the last to weigh in, because she would rather avoid all talk of pardons.

    as predicted.....special comment tommorrow.

    I just LMAO at his dumb, ridiculous, bigoted, groundless statements. Others have noticed too.

    LOL!

    Posted by: Average American Patriot at July 2, 2007 9:32 PM
    "Others" that post from your IP? lol!

    Jeff: "Cecelia, don't mind the loons, they're just spinning their wheels in desperation mode, trying to catch me in a "lie"".

    LOL!!!!

    Jeff, we've literally caught you in dozens of lies. All you do is lie and say you didn't lie, and then turn around and lie again. The only thing I don't think you are lying about is your incredibly self deluded and comical worldview that reads much like a typical comic book.

    I believe you actually think lying is perfectly OK as long as you think it furthers your own agenda. I also think you believe it is perfectly OK to call opponents 'liars' for the same reason. You obviously have no problem with making accusations you can't possibly prove. Truth means nothing to you, and neither does reality.

    So Jeff, don't kid your sorry self....nothing about YOU invokes 'desperation' from those of us who actually understand the truth.

    You're nothing but an ongoing joke on this blog, but keep right on kidding yourself by believing otherwise....and we'll keep right on laughing at your fundamentally dishonest stupidity.

    Uh, RK. Im not sure if you're aware of this, but alot of people laugh at you. Oh yeah, and almost all presidents do that on their last day of office. Its part of the presidential club.

    "stealy, try posting your supposed proof, tought guy.

    Olbyonesidedkanoby lies in the first 30 seconds! "the President lied us into war!""

    The President did lie us into war. And I REALLY hope you arent talking about proof of your lie, because thats on this exact same message board.

    Anon, He's already boycotted the constitution. He's all for the suspension of Habeus Corpus. It gives him a reason to lock up all the muslims

    AAP,

    I listened to Hitchens/Sharpton on Hardball (two clips on MSNBC). It ultimately came down down to more Catholic bashing (Sharpton held back, tongue in cheek). I thought that Sharpton made the better points.

    AAP,

    I found Peter Hitchens's review of the book fascinating because of his perspective (brother versus brother). He was respectful but hammered him. I find it ironic that their religious views and their views of Iraq to be exactly oppposite. He discusses that also.

    You're nothing but an ongoing joke on this blog, but keep right on kidding yourself by believing otherwise....and we'll keep right on laughing at your fundamentally dishonest stupidity.

    Posted by: Mike at July 2, 2007 9:51 PM

    Keep telling YOURSELF that and someday you'll believe it! Mr. "I'm leaving and never coming back, adios!" "I don't defend Olbermahn!"......."I was driven to defend him by you guys!"

    The Truth?, I made a half dozen or so points and this is your only response: "This is a huge part of the incident, and Fitzpatrick went out of his way after the Libby conviction to insist that Plame WAS covert." So, why were there no indictments based on his after the fact insistence when he knew who the culprit was virtually from day one?

    I freely admitted that I may be wrong in any one aspect because I was working strictly from memory. Based on your one objection to the body of my work I suspect you are correct that Fitzpatrick did not address this in the way I characterized it at his press conference when the Libby indictment was announced.

    That leaves us with the fact that Fitzgerald knew almost immediately that Armitage 'outed' her and Powell also knew it was Armitage and all three, four if you count Novak, knew it was not some devious plot from the White House.

    As far as I can tell your contention is that Fitspatrick knew a serious felony was committed, he knew that Armitage committed it based on his 'confession' and he did not investigate the confession (a confession needs corroborating evidence to hold up in court).

    A tempest in a teapot perhaps?

    I will, of course, research it.

    Grammie

    Bobo, are you quite sure you quoted The Scarecrow in the Wizard of Oz correctly or is that just one more example of your sloppy, nay nonexistent, scholarship?

    I notice that all you did was to attack me personally.

    That does seem to be your only hallmark, doesn't it?

    Grammie

    And another post were RK just avoids it. Not suprising.

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    The Truth, this is from Fitspatrick on the day, I think, the Indictment was filed. Taken from:

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,173774,00.html

    "We have not made any allegation that Mr. Libby knowingly or intentionally outed a covert agent. We have not charged that. And so I am not making that assertion," he said."

    Fitspatrick can say anything out of court proceedings that he wants to for any reason, good or bad. It is the follow up that counts.

    Fitzpatrick knew within days of being named Special Counsel that Under Secretary of State Richard Armitage (as did Secretary Colin Powell) leaked Plame's name and status as a CIA employee.

    Lets look at the facts sequentially.

    He was charged to find who leaked Plame's status as a CIA employee, a felony if she was covert.

    To make that a serious crime she would have to be a covert agent within certain parameters and that the leaker knew that. So he was also charged to determine if that happened.

    The culprit, Richard Armitage, first informed his boss, Secretary Colin Powell, and then volunteered to Fitzpatrick a confession before Fitspatrick's office was even up and running.

    Neither Armitage nor Powell were ever subpoenaed to testify.

    Fitspatrick ignored and did not address that he had the confession of the actual leaker, which was his initial charge to find.

    Fitspatrick has never based a legal proceeding or filed a legal document based on the Statute prohibiting outing a covert agent.

    Fitspatrick has never charged The Leaker with anything.

    So Fitspatrick knows that a felony was committed by telling someone that Plame works for the CIA. He knows who committed it, the guy confessed. Where was the INVESTIGATION, much less an indictment or plea bargain based on this windfall?

    So, should we start calling him 'James Nifong Fitspatrick'?

    Grammie

    Hopefully like Nifong, Fitzgerald will soon be disbarred as well.

    The Loons really think that they can get Libby's commutation overturned. They think that if enough of them write the judge who sentenced him he can do something. Seriously-they are THAT stupid!

    Good job again, Mr. Dollar.

    By sheer will power you must keep your frustration with KO from overcoming your analysis! I tip my hat to your tenacity.

    KO has not learned that sports are not politics.

    In sports, if the Yankees lose, sportscasters rant and shriek about failure, hurl stupidity, offer insight, etc -- and it doesn't make a whit of difference.

    In politics, loss of clear thinking is gonna bite you in the butt. It is all play for Countdown, and the lack of seriousness with which this Special Comment has been taken is proof that the KO is standing so far out in Left Field that fewer are taking him seriously.

    The answer to Olber-drama is really in looking back at how bad sportscasters finally get fired.

    Ratings failure? That's a lot of it. More than that, however, soberly making fun of their obvious silly stuff by those who do think clearly, it seems to me, pushes most bad sportscasters off. So keep up the good work, don't get too frustrated, and know that your straight analysis is doing an excellent job of pounding errors.