Good to have you back, J$.......

And look at the coverage Olbermann will give to the Libby sentence tonight......He is going to interview Joe Wilson and I am sure there will be no one from the defense-side of the trial.

Edward R. Murrow?

William Jefferson was caught in the Edwin Edwards , D LA, bribery and corruption investigation on tape accepting $10,000 cash. That was pretty much all that came out in the Edwards' trial and many of us were upset that the Feds had ignored it.

I don't know when this investigation started but you would think that he had more sense and realized he had gotten lucky once.

And all around sleazy guy.

Grammie

Cee, the gentleman has been convicted. There is no longer any presumption of innocence. There is no defense "side" any longer. Get over it. The Bush Administration is full of some of the biggest liars in American history. In fact, it is led by two big liars. The gentleman was a small fish. They tend to be caught first. Just get over it. The dance is done. Goodnight Ladies.

Keith should have Bill Clinton on his show to go over Libby's sentence. Keith would have a real expert about lying under oath.

Ropeadope....try to be logical...Mr. Libby has continued to maintain his innocence and will appeal.....That is the only unknown in this trial now....what the defense will do next.

Let's see who the true journalists interview....I am sure there will be supporters of Mr. Libby ready to point out that no one has been charged with the actual crime alleged....divulging classified information and this tempest in a teapot manufactured by the left will go quietly into that good night.

But Keith Olbermann has Joe Wilson on....the man will have nothing new to add and his opinions will remain unchallenged....not what Edward R. Murrow would do, rope....

Do you agree? Or will you continue with the Bush hatred seeing a conspiracy behind every tree?.....Oh yeah, evidence of the actual crime would be nice.

Again....do have evidence for Mr. Fitzgerald that will show Rove, Cheney, Bush, whoever broke the law? No? Well that's nice....Goodnight ladies.

Right on. Screw Scooter. He should have a stiffer sentence than Sandy Berger. Sandy only stole classified documents from the National Archives and then lied to federal prosecutors. And Scooter.....he ...... well ........ Whatever he's evil and must be punished.

It doesn't matter that prosecutor Fitzgerald repeatedly said that Scooter's prosecution had nothing to do with the actual leak of Valerie Plame only that he lied to federal prosecutors. We must sentence him as if he leaked classified documents, I mean stole documents, I mean destroyed classified documents, no wait.... we must punish him like he is a conservative. Brand him with a 'C' then tar and feather him because he knew Richard Armitage and Armitage was the leak but he cut a deal, so we need a patsy. Crucify him!!!!!!!!!!
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Poor Ropeadope can't break free of his anti-Bush pablum....

Again....Who has been found guilty of divulging classified information....the true crime that allegedly occurred? No one, dope....

That is why this is nothing but a tempest in a teapot, dope....no Rove doing the perp-walk.....like you wished for......

While William Jefferson, Democrat, faces almost 235 years in prison for real crimes that affected real people.....not a minor crime that only affected attention seeking leftists going through their midlife crisis.

Leave it to the democrats...they sure know their business.

Well, I wonder when Ropeadope will actually address the issue raised by Johnny $-- that Olbermann is simply a partisan cheeerleader for the left because he gives extensive coverage to a Republican Congressman who gets indicted on corruption charges (Bob Ney) but says almost nothing about Democrat "Cold Cash" Jefferson when his number comes up for a corruption indictment. Keith is a liar when he recently asserted that he would go after Democratic misdeeds just as aggressively as he would go after allegations against Republicans. Fringe leftys like Ropedope will never debate this point, they will simply try to steer to a different topic to protect their Orange hero.

I am glad that Ropadope is around to show how corrup Bush is and everybody around him. We can get rid of corruption if we can get Hillary back in office because we the people didn't have to worry about the government being criminals and going to jail during the good ole days when Bill and Hillary were president. We need to bring back people who can be ethical, not Bush. Keith should keep on talking about Republicans who are corrup because its more important to show how bad Republicans are so we can get them out of office and Olbermann uses his position as someone who brings the news to do this for the public good.

Ropeydopey,

Should Martha Stewart have gone to jail?

If a Republican was found with $90,000 of bribe money in his freezer, Keith would have a field day with that.

I wonder if "Ropeadope" is going to list the corrupt officals of the "Clinton Administrations" starting with Sandy Berger? The same person who stoled classified documents and had them destroyed so they damage Clinton's Legacy, but "Ropeadope" is too busy with the knee pads on swallowing the SPOOZE from Keith Olberman...

Chicken Blogger, this statement by you is incomprehensible:

"They're still on Jefferson, on the day that the 2nd in line to the Vice President was sentenced to 30 months in jail !,,,,,

Posted by: at June 6, 2007 12:03 AM"

The 'second in line' to the Vice President is his chief of staff? Second in line to WHAT?

Whatever you are eating, smoking, drinking or shooting up you should stop for awhile.

You obviously have neural synapses in your brain dangerously misfiring.

Grammie

"I want every Republican candidate running for President and Congress to be forced to applaud Libby's pardon and to inscribe their names alongside Scooter's other distinguished defenders, from Rumsfeld to Bolton."

I think Marc Rich just suffered an aneurysm after reading this passage, preganant with irony as it is.

"I want American history to possess forever a crystalline illustration of Cheney's whack-ball theory of the unitary executive exempt from the rule of law."

It seems that a remedial course in political science would do you some good. Scaremongering generalizations ("exempt from the rule of law") without a foundational basis are the specialty of Olbermann like piffle.

"I want the persistent presidential nullification of the Constitution to be perpetually exemplified by an unambiguous act of unmistakable arrogance."

Yes, surely you remember how the President attempted to increase the size of the Supreme Court membership to 15, thus enabling him to pack it with members of his liking and thereby nullifying the Constitution . . . oh wait, that was a Democrat that tried to do that.

"I want Scooter Libby's fate to be be ironically and irrevocably linked to Paris Hilton."

Yes, and I want Keith Olbermann's fate to be ironically and irrevocably linked with Michael Musto and Rosie O'Donnell . . . oh wait, I think that has already come to pass.

"I want Alberto Gonzales and Orrin Hatch to have their credibility fatally and eternally compromised by their fealty to an Administration which equates savage loyalty with justice."

Well, I don't recall that anyone in the Bush administration has been convicted and then had their silence bought and paid for on issues personally incriminating to the President. But then again, Gonzales and Hatch aren't Webb Hubbell and Susan McDougal.

"I want every wingnut in the blogosphere to be forced to undermine their own credibility from here to eternity by endlessly recycling their lies about Valerie Plame not being covert, and by contending -- falsley, relentlessly and deliciously self-destructively -- that a pardon does not presume guilt."

Sorry sport, you seem to be confused about the burden of proof regarding this deal about Plame's status. "Wingnuts" aren't telling lies when they deny that she is "classified" or "covert". Her status is an issue that is highly questionable and much in dispute. Until the issue is settled, those who doubt her claims of being classified aren't lying at all. And Marc Rich just had another aneursym with that bit about "falsely, relentlessly and deliciously self-destructively". You must have shut your brain off during the Clinton era.

"Don't get me wrong. I'd love to see him do time. But even more than that, I'd love a Bush pardon to provide an incontestable X-ray of this crowd's sclerotic soul."

Yeah, Bill Clinton feels the pain of your sclerotic soul with every pen stoke that pardoned scum like Marc Rich.

Chicken, I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you thought you knew what you were saying.

Perhaps if you didn't use such overwrought hyperbole you wouldn't be so misunderstood, the teenager's perpetual lament around the world.

Grammie

"would love for us and the world to ignore that failure behind the curtain"

And Dope would love for us to ignore the poor quality of so-called journalism on Meltdown. Wall to wall coverage for Republican congressmen indicted for corruption (Bob Ney); barely a peep for Democratic congressmen indicted for corruption ("Cold Cash" Jefferson). Which makes Olbermann a discredited liar for claiming he was going to go after Democratic misdeeds as agressively as Republicans. This is the "newsman" who speaks for the far left fringe loons like Dope.

Perjury?......A crime?.......No Ropeadope....Perjury to federal investigatiors about anything except information related to a civil suit concerning sexual harrasment is a crime to you, Keith Olbermann and other loony leftists who continue to say Bill Clinton's perjury was ok....

You are a silly person.....no evidence what-so-ever that actual crimes of leaking classified information are here and you use the same argument the Clinton-haters used.....PERJURY!....Should Clinton serve 30 months, Ropeadope?

Consistency under the law is not an issue here with me. Libby has an appeal process to pursue and I wish him the best, his crime was minimal and does not require jail time IMHO....

It is the crazy left's political demogoguery that is so amusing....you want to use this silly case as a weapon against Bush....just like Olbermann.....you look stupid for doing so and the majority of the American people yawn at your indignation and hypocrisy....just like the rabid Clinton-haters did when he was accused of perjury. Tempest in a teaspoon.

And this is my post today, the 1,498th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

I am cee, good night and good luck.

"I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

"There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

"I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

"Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

"American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

Clinton wasn't convicted of anything, Cee. You Extreme Right Wingers don't seem to understand the "magic" of that process under our Constitution. Then, again, you don't understand or appreciate our Constitution in general.

The political angle that consumes the left with regards to the Libby trial on perjury was the subject of my last post, chicken blogger 7:01AM.....

"It is the crazy left's political demogoguery that is so amusing....you want to use this silly case as a weapon against Bush....just like Olbermann.....you look stupid for doing so and the majority of the American people yawn at your indignation and hypocrisy....just like the rabid Clinton-haters did when he was accused of perjury. Tempest in a teaspoon."

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My reaction to the verdict is a yawn because no other administration officials have been charged, yet Ropeadope and his/her kind continue to raise this case as a sure-fire sign that the administration purposely lied to get support for the Iraq war....the facts speak for themselves against this garbage....Armitage leaked Plame's name, Joe Wilson's behavior with his op-Ed brought the world's attention to his wife and created the environment that lead many (including Armitage and Libby) to speak her name as well.....There is NO evidence of a concerted effort to hurt the Plames....yet the allegations are touted by the left as fact....wrongo.....It is all conjecture and the fact that Rove walks free supports the idea that no evidence of an administration vendetta was found.....Sorry lefty.

With the connection to Clinton...it is the hypocrisy of the left that is so blatant....If perjury is such a serious crime for Libby, why do those on the left continue to excuse Clinton's behavior in regards to questions he answered to federal investigators? I am not talking about the legal question of whether a conviction occurred, I am talking about the political issue of screaming about Libby's lying to investigators while poo-pooing Clinton's EXACT same behavior.

Your silly conclusions about my understanding of The Constitution is simply more demogoguery but I'll overlook your simplistic rebuttal.

Fred said: "Keith should have Bill Clinton on his show to go over Libby's sentence. Keith would have a real expert about lying under oath."

Keith should also get "legal expert" John Dean to discuss the intimate details of prison life.

"If you're not skewering the worst president in our lifetime"
-Ropedope

Rope must be young and that is why he can't process and reason like most adults. Carter takes that distinction, Rope.

ropeadick doesn't like to compare the 50+ indictments eminating directly from the Clinton Administration to the lowly Libby indictment. HA!

Poor Cee- can't break free from his Bushbot programming....

Nice post Ropadope...

Yeah, if you want to know how 'W' rates as a president, you certainly don't ask the bootlickers at this site, that's for sure...

"I think there is no alternative but to rank him [Bush] as the worst president in U.S. history."

OK, let's rope this dope. Dope wants us to believe that the opinion of one obscure history professor (Eric Foner) at an elitist liberal institution that is a bastion of left wing thinking is the definitive opinion on the legacy of George W. Bush.

And just to show what a research whiz that Dope is, he actually went to Wikipedia to find out what they had to say about Jimmy Carter:

"According to Wikapedia he was 27th out of 42 listed. He's ahead of Nixon and Ford."

Now that's some serious stuff there. But maybe we should dig a little deeper:

"It may come as a surprise that in a new survey of scholars ranking the presidents, Mr. Bush finishes almost exactly in the middle of the pack. He ranks No. 19 out of 40, and he rates 3.01 on a 5-point scale, just a hair's breadth above the middlemost possible figure. But this is no gentleman's C. Mr. Bush's rating is average because it is an average, of rankings given by 85 professors of history, politics, law and economics.

Most such scholarly polls have a strong liberal bias, reflecting academia's far-left tilt. But this survey--conducted by James Lindgren of Northwestern University Law School for the Federalist Society and The Wall Street Journal--aimed at ideological balance. The scholars were chosen with an eye toward balancing liberals and conservatives, and Mr. Lindgren asked each participant about his political orientation, then adjusted the average to give Democratic- and Republican-leaning scholars equal weight. . .

Here's one way of thinking about the question: The three great presidents--Washington, Lincoln and FDR--all faced unprecedented challenges, all responded to them boldly, and all succeeded. Mr. Bush has met the first two of these criteria: The 9/11 attacks were his unprecedented challenge; setting out to democratize the Middle East was his bold response. Will he succeed--not just in bringing stability and representative government to Iraq but in beginning a process that spreads freedom throughout the region? That will determine whether he joins the top tiers of presidents.

If he falls short, he may still get credit for trying. The lowest-ranking presidents tend to be not those who aimed high and missed, but those whose administrations were plagued by scandal (Harding, Nixon) or who were passive as crises built (Buchanan, Carter).

If you want to see the complete list, go here:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110007243

Here is a summary: Top Ten in order: Washington, Lincoln, FDR, Jefferson, Teddy Roosevelt, Reagan, Truman, Eisenhower, Polk, Jackson; No. 18 LBJ, No. 19 George W. Bush; No. 22 Clinton; No. 32 Nixon, No. 34 Carter and No. 40 (the worst) Buchanan.

"Most such scholarly polls have a strong liberal bias, reflecting academia's far-left tilt"

So Hank,

Since academia tilts to the far-left, does that mean you are postulating that as education increases, your political ideology tilts further left?

"So Hank, Since academia tilts to the far-left, does that mean you are postulating that as education increases, your political ideology tilts further left?"

Of course! I know many highly educated leftists. I just don't know any with a lot of wisdom.

Hank, were the 'higher' ranked presidents ones who misrepresented or lied about their true intent when they "aimed high"?

In other words, did they claim something like "I am going after weapons of mass destruction" when their real intent was something more along the line of "democratizing the Middle East"?

If Mr. Bush really thought "democratizing the Middle East" was such a great idea, don't you think he should have shared this bold (Absurd in my opinion) vision with the rest of us before undertaking it in secrecy and with deception?

If Mr. Bush was really at least a "middle of the pack", don't you think he should have at least possessed a rudimentary knowledge of the culture, religion, and history of the region he took it upon himself to 'reform'?

Sorry Hank, historians or no historians, I rank him as the worst, and quite probably a criminal to boot, although I fully understand he will probably never have to face the music he actually should have to face.

"Of course! I know many highly educated leftists. I just don't know any with a lot of wisdom. "

That must explain why righties are so strict, in their avoidence of education.

If Mr. Bush really thought "democratizing the Middle East" was such a great idea, don't you think he should have shared this bold (Absurd in my opinion) vision with the rest of us before undertaking it in secrecy and with deception?

I think it is a misrepresentation of President Bush's objectives to say that his decision to go to war was based upon a single motivation (finding WMD's). He has said many times that bringing democracy to this part of the world is one of the reasons we are there.