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    Olbermann Watch, "persecuting" Keith since 2004


    June 9, 2007
    OlbyLoons Revolt on Countdown blog as More OlbyPocrisy Revealed

    It's been less than two weeks since Keith Olbermann's man-love interview of Al Gore in which Olbermann sycophantically sympathized with Gore's criticism of "the media" for covering "trivialities" as part of a propaganda effort by the Bush Administration that allowed "catastrophes" like Iraq and Global Warming. Flash-forward to last night's wall-to-wall coverage of world-class triviality, Paris Hilton, and we find the OlbyLoons who frequent Countdown's Newshole blog "shocked, shocked" to find the Keith is a hypocrite.

    I've enjoyed seeing the show become more overtly liberal over the past year or so, and I've appreciated how your increasingly frequent Special Comments have provided a much-needed counterpoint to all the noise coming from the Right. I have a lot of respect for you and for the show. But you make it harder every day to hang onto that respect...would [Edward R. Murrow] have quoted National Enquirer stories about them as if they were part of the news? The National Enquirer, Keith. When did the basement floor of journalistic standards settle so deep that a notorious gossip tabloid - quoting unnamed sources - was worthy of quoting on a national television news program?...please at least have enough respect for your viewers to stop pretending you hate doing those stories, or that you're not part of the problem.

    - db, anderson, sc (Sent Friday, June 08, 2007 10:03 PM)

    What I love about Countdown is that it expects more from it's audience and doesn't treat us like we're idiots. When there is more entertainment content than news, there is a big problem.

    - KS, Dallas, Texas (Sent Friday, June 08, 2007 8:21 PM)

    Please take some time to read Al Gore's new book. I counted on you to give real reporting and insigngt to what is going on in the world and the government, (at least for the beginning of your show). To dedicate the entire first portion of your show to Paris Hilton, tells me you are a sell out to the "keep the attention diverted" crowd. I am disappointed in you now and feel let down by someone I trusted to give us real insight to the real happenings in the Government and world.

    - Jo-Ann Shimola, Scottsdale, AZ (Sent Friday, June 08, 2007 9:08 PM)

    You know what? You're lucky I even kept watching tonight after that gleeful "I lied!" You don't know what kind of expletives I wanted to use tonight (and am refraining from using now). To be quite honest, Keith, I hope the ratings for tonight's show go right into the toilet where they belong.

    - Tru M., Cleveland, Ohio (Sent Friday, June 08, 2007 9:41 PM)

    I wonder what Edward R. Murrow would be reporting today? The two-tier justice system is definitely worth mentioning but unfortunately coundown is part of the problem in the publics overall disconnect with a little something formerly known as um... REALITY when it endlessly goes after ratings at the sake of um... OUR VERY DEMOCRACY.

    Chris Eldridge (Sent Friday, June 08, 2007 11:06 PM)



    Posted by Robert Cox | Permalink | Comments (101) | | View blog reactions

    101 Comments

    db wrote: "The National Enquirer, Keith. When did the basement floor of journalistic standards settle so deep that a notorious gossip tabloid 'quoting unnamed sources' was worthy of quoting on a national television news program?"

    The basement floor of journalistic standards has a root cellar named "Countdown".

    Wow, tho, just tried to wade through the genious of the Newshole thread. While it starts off with many more pissed off commenters than even Bob mentioned, it slowly turns to typical Olbyloon fare: rambling invective against the Republicans, death wishes for both Bush and Cheney, and finally conspiracy theories that KO has been put on a leash for revealing too much truth about the Bush admin.

    Talk about gold.

    Scott,

    I think I liked best the OlbyLoon in Kentucky who is convinced that Comcast moved MSNBC to a different channel because they do not like Olbermann's politics.

    Apparently it does not occur to OlbyLoons that a more likely reason is that the ratings for MSNBC, including Countdown, stink!

    Olby, your loony followers are turning on you. It's about time they found out that The Olbywan doesn't give a hoot about them or the truth. His priority is himself, his contract and his posh new digs. His band of 10 moonbat fans must be disappointed.

    Keith , being uniquely feminine, was actually moist during the Joe Wilson segment. Keith is a wonderful woman. HA!

    Posted by: Gleason at June 6, 2007 7:52 PM

    You righties must fuck some weird shit.

    Wow - the loons are turning on Olby, and some are jumping ship. Even his biggest fan has had enough, well, sort of. Isn't Tru M the same person who travels from site to site as Berry and Orin and Kathy and god knows how many other screen names? The one who has a monopoly on the Tao of Keith. I'm sure she shows up here, too.

    This is entertaining to watch - almost as good as when the loons turn on each other.

    Thanks for the laugh, Mr. Cox.

    Bob - did you see KO now has an online game on the MSNBC site where you hit the camera with a virtual paper ball? His best line -
    and I'm not kidding -

    "Turn up the house lights, baby - let me see the people who love me"

    Dan Patrick has an online game on the ESPN site. Could this be part of Olby's need to keep up with Dan? Dan has children so Olby needs to move a child in with him. Dan has a network sports gig so Olby has to get the football job. Jealous much of his partner?

    I had not seen that online game before. I'm not sure what to say about it but here's the link.

    http://www.peacocknest.com/camerasmash/

    They should start calling it "Crapdown with Keith Olbermann(D)"

    LOL. These utter dunces think countdown is a real news program, to be respected. What a laugh. You can't trust Keith. You CAN trust Billo to to tell both sides though. And to make corrections. And to be reasonably fair. None of this matters to the olberloons.... The very vocal minority. Black is white in olberland. More ratings analysis, just to piss off and remind the loons would be good.

    Actually, no name, not everyone here is for this war. We are united in pointing out Olbermann's hypocrisy. It's Olbermann Watch, not Iraq War watch. Maybe he should just be objective about the news and no one would need to monitor the Newshole aka Olby.

    Olby never lets basic facts get in the way of his broadcasts.

    Olbermann should just present the facts and let them speak for themselves. His audience should be smart enough to form their own views. Althought MSNBC is promoting the idea that we're "entitled" to Olby's opinion, I find that idea offensive coming from a "newscaster" and a news organization.

    "Bush has caused everything bad!"
    Keith's saying so makes you all so glad
    Unhinged dingbats drinking the Kool Aid
    Uncle Dick tapping your phone makes you all so afraid
    Islamic terrorists never make you so mad


    QUOTE,

    Dave Matthews and his crew do not love their country. They are silly leftists who love other leftists, but hate people on the right. That's not "loving their country".

    This was the best one I saw on the bung-hole comments.

    Ashley, Baton Rouge, LA (Sent Friday June 8, 2007 9:09 p.m.)

    "Someone HAS (yes, she wrote it in caps) to tell us what song Keith was listening to on his iPod. It may be a moral imperative."

    Olbyloons, it doesn't get more Zombie-like than that.

    Dave Matthews and his crew do not love their country.

    Posted by: Rico at June 10, 2007 12:31 PM

    Rico would know what's in the hearts of each and every member of the band.

    Rico is an idiot !

    If you love WAR then you are a true patriot, in Rico 's world !

    Logicgatecloseddude. Movealong.

    Here is a jewel that I found @ KeithObermann by Marie:

    "One study showed MSNBC making the highest number of references to Paris that
    day, but that might just be due to participants on MSNBC shows being more verbal.
    More words, more net references. "

    This people must have been rated by their teachers in the top 1% of school kids for creative excuses for why they didn't do their homework.

    Grammie

    >Dave Matthews and his crew do not love their country. They are silly leftists who love other leftists, but hate people on the right. That's not "loving their country".

    Posted by: Rico at June 10, 2007 12:31 PM

    Shall we go ahead and exhume McCarthy now, or wait until Rico says 'they' should be rounded up and shot...?

    How come Rico and Joker are never seen in the same place at the same time?

    ...And in case he, er, I mean 'they' haven't asked the deep and probing question in more than an hour, I'll go ahead...

    "Why does the left love terrorists so much?"

    Hey Grammie,

    Just read your post on Bush from the 24th it is quite good. I have thoughts on how to respond to some of your your points and some, I am going to have research a little more in depth ( I have for example not read the 9-11 report).

    So I'll get back to you soon.

    P.S. I am thinking of going with Simon and Shuster for my publisher. I could send your manuscript in as well.

    >Olbermann should just present the facts and let them speak for themselves. His audience should be smart enough to form their own views. Althought MSNBC is promoting the idea that we're "entitled" to Olby's opinion, I find that idea offensive coming from a "newscaster" and a news organization.

    Posted by: at June 10, 2007 11:37 AM


    Let's see...

    His audience should be smart enough to form their own opinions...

    But not smart enough to tell facts from opinion? A newscast from commentary?

    Which is it?

    >Haven't you also noticed that the stench that infiltrated this site has left the building ?

    His initials are RK.

    Posted by: at June 10, 2007 4:03 PM

    He's probably just trapped under a heffer out in the barn.

    He'll be back as soon as he wiggles himself free.

    4:27 - his opinions are not always labeled as "commentary" - there's my problem with this program and that's where he loses credibility.

    He weaves them in and out of the facts. So it's not really a newscast, is it? MSNBC and Olbermann need to stop referring to it as such.

    You can dance around with words as much as you want but you still end up as an Olbermann apologist, which means you will need to get the last word - so go for it.

    Grammie! Welcome to the Ephemerae of the net!

    ---------------------------
    "One study showed MSNBC making the highest number of references to Paris that
    day, but that might just be due to participants on MSNBC shows being more verbal.
    More words, more net references. "
    =============================

    There are morons "discussing" irrelevant crap on the net, asking for "blog links," even trying to organize even more useless morons to post even more irrelevant crap trying to build a legitimate "journalist" credibility for their mission.

    Does not sound familiar?

    Here Grummpies, let me help ya:

    "Know something about Keith Olbermann?
    Send it to us!"

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    Thank you loyal readers!
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    I won't go into much detail about the on going discussion in this crapper about K.O.'s dick size, skin tone, or supposed bathing habits, since we have on the march:


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    If Bob, Johnny BU$HWIPE, Brandy, EZ-Shiets, Grummpie or any other moron OlbyHater sez it on this site, it must be true!!

    Even more true, if Managing Editor, Robert Cox olby@olbywatch.com, gets to have his ridiculous sycophantic rants published, then Dumbya is like Lincoln. TRUTH, right there.

    IT'S ON PRINT!! IT'S ON THE NET!!!
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    LONG LIVE ROBERT (sucking) COX!!
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    Grammie,

    I don't mean to nag, but our AAP's is long overdue to have his mouth washed out with soap.

    I am an idiot!

    ==============

    I do not deserve to post on this site!


    I have abused my privileges.


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    I have nothing of relevance to say about anything.

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    The only reason I post on this site is for self-gratification.

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    I am a little weasel stuck in my mom's basement and I have issues with my daddy.

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    I am begging Robert to put me out of my misery.

    Just how did the military discover that these 58 Arabic linguists were gay, anyways? It's "don't ask, don't tell," remember. Were these people sashaying around or something? Or were they all in the same bunkhouse and somebody accidently opened the door to witness a major league orgy? How many total Arabic linguists are there in the military? Since 1 or 2 percent of males are gay, is that 58 out of several thousand? If so, then 58 is not a big deal. If not, then must we conclude that gay guys are drawn to be Arab interpreters for the military like gays are drawn into the priesthood.

    Futhermore, is Maureen Dowd really an attractive, 50 something, single woman who wishes she could have been Monica Lewinski or is Maureen really, perhaps, a male in disguise?

    Why is that that the automatic leftist response to anything negative about KO is to cut and paste completely unrelated articles about the Iraq war or Republican presidential candidates, referencing the Iraq war. Or how bad Dick Cheney is. Or the new favorite of the blue blogs, that Bush is drinking again. Or AAP's incoherent postings (still trying to figure out the 4:50 pm post).

    I would love to hear a reasoned response as to what these posts have to do with the topic at hand, the comments on the newshole blog about KO's Paris Hilton coverage Friday night.

    Lmao. I might as well pull out my old monochrome monitor to look at this site. Poor righties are lost when it comes to modern technology. Is this site from 1997?

    Read the Dowd piece. What was she referencing when she said the Cheney campaign "demonized" gays? Cheney said that he wasn't going to do anything to champion gay marriage law, but heck... Bill Clinton was for the Defense of Marriage Act, and as far as I know Hillary hasn't come out for gay marriage either. John Kerry certainly didn't.

    Wasn't the "don't ask, don't tell" policy something that Clinton offered up ala Dick Morris' advice because he wouldn't continue fighting for gays openly serving in the military after his poll numbers hit rock bottom?

    Dowd has a very convenient memory when she ponders hypocrisy and she ought to hark back to way Clinton sold out gays who had supported him and even embraced Republican-driven welfare reform when he had told minority leaders that he would not.

    Perhaps she could compare THAT with Bush's stand on the war and on immigration, despite the low popularity of those issues...

    Lmao. I might as well pull out my old monochrome monitor to look at this site. Poor righties are lost when it comes to modern technology. Is this site from 1997?

    Posted by: Jordan at June 10, 2007 7:25 PM


    I have to agree with you there. This site is about as unattractive and user unfriendly as I've seen on the web.

    However, the content is terrific, Johnny Dollar is a genius, and Bob is pretty when he's angry...

    He has stated he's 1/7 Latino.

    Wromng I'm 100% Latin.
    Italo-Argentine/Cuban to be exact.

    Why do you care what my name ,
    No one cares about the Muslim refugees of Iraq.
    Screw em.

    3:58, even Olby noted that the "beer" the president was drinking was a non-alcoholic brand. Are you saying Olby lied? We've been telling you that all along.

    "and Bob is pretty when he's angry"

    So are you Cecelia...so are you!

    "and Bob is pretty when he's angry"

    So are you Cecelia...so are you!

    Posted by: Mike at June 10, 2007 9:31 PM


    Thanks, Mike. You're hissy when you're angry.

    Just as I thought Cecelia...you ARE lurking here all the time!

    Just as I thought Cecelia...you ARE lurking here all the time!

    Posted by: Mike at June 10, 2007 9:44 PM


    Be afraid... be very afraid...

    If the Olbyloons needed any proof of Olbermann's OlbyPocrisy than this: at age 26, Paris Hilton is four years older than Olbermann's live-in girlfriend. This from the guy who has mocked so many celeb May-December relationships that I've lost count. It's wrong for them but perfectly fine for him.

    Keith's standards are below basement floor
    The simple facts that he will ignore
    He's an Ivy League hack
    Al Gore's in his crack
    It's no wonder Keith walks like he's sore

    Fat Ass Keith is 100% klutz
    Above and beyond he's also a putz
    Unhinged about Bush
    But Gore loves his tush
    Truth is he's more than a little bit nuts.

    Major, I did forewarn you that it was a brilliant rebuttal. :)

    Grammie

    Chicken Blogger, I am bemused by this statement:

    "Scott still wants to talk about Paris Hilton.

    How sweet !.....

    Posted by: at June 10, 2007 7:27 PM"

    How should those at a site devoted to KO react when he devotes so much time to a single non news event such as Paris Hilton's 'Perils of Pauline' saga?

    If KO had put it in its proper place, a la Brit Hume (no coverage), on his so called 'news' show no one would be talking about it.

    Most of us don't have that ability to discern what a 'news caster' considers important vs what they are just putting out there because 'what the Hell, why not'.

    Your gripe is with KO, not with us.

    Grammie

    Cecelia, I forget now because it was a few month's back.

    Were you the 'lurker' and I was the 'sniper', or were you the 'sniper' and I was the 'lurker'?

    Since I am junior to you in terms of posting here you pick your fave and I'll accept your decision. :)

    Grammie

    PS It wouldn't be that fine vintage Palmolive. I would have to go with lye soap.

    Says Sir Loser: "You righties must fuck some weird shit."

    END QUOTE

    At least we are having sex. Who would want to be around a sour puss, whiner, weener, loser like you let alone have sex with them. You are in real life as you express yourselh here.

    Grammie,

    Sharm here. Just a quick hello and a link to the transcript of Tim Russert's interview with Colin Powell. In my opinion, he debunks the whole Bush lied to take us to war idea if you read the whole interview. If some say that he would not publicly accuse Bush of lying, Powell was certainly critical of Bush in many other areas (in his polite manner). Olby certainly used Powell to discredit Bush on other topics and it would be easy to cherry pick what he said to Russert. I thought you might be interested if you didn't see the show. Have a great summer with your grandkids!

    http://rss.msnbc.msn.com/id/8987534/

    Laura shows her panties!

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    You are in real life as you express yourselh here.
    Posted by: George Bush at June 11, 2007 8:53 AM
    =============================

    WOW! MAN! That was like....DEEEEEEP!

    Obviously, you have no idea of what you post or how you come across with your previous posts.

    bitter moron schizo BUSHWIPE!

    For the record...

    Hillary is OPPOSED to gay marriage (at least right up until changing her position means more votes).

    Dave Matthews, although a naturalized American citizen, is a South African so while he may love HIS country, his country is not the United States. I can't speak for his violin player.

    Since I am junior to you in terms of posting here you pick your fave and I'll accept your decision. :)

    Grammie

    PS It wouldn't be that fine vintage Palmolive. I would have to go with lye soap.

    Posted by: Janet Hawkins at June 11, 2007 12:48 AM


    Grammie, I'm going for "sniper" if you don't mind.

    I can diaper my elderly immensely rich husband, put him to bed, do a little online banking to slowly transfer his billions into my swiss account, polish my diamonds, and snipe at Mike, no sweat...

    For the record...

    Hillary is OPPOSED to gay marriage (at least right up until changing her position means more votes).


    Posted by: Robert Cox at June 11, 2007 10:05 AM


    That's why Dowd is such a hypocrite herself in that article. She implies that Cheney is really FOR gay marriage but is hypocritically taking a stand against it in order to appease values voters. However, when Cheney came on board as Bush's VP, he said he would not run for the presidency later, himself and when asked the question about gay marriage (because of his lesbian daughter) he'd said he follow the President's lead. (Bush has explicitly stated that he is for gay civil unions.)

    Dowd considers THAT hypocritical, but at the same time, she gives Dem candidates who oppose gay marriage a pass, because she knows that they really aren't opposed to it, but are doing what's politically expedient.

    She goes on to make a case that public sentiment is more gay tolerant now as though RNC consistency on this is what's is hypocritical, rather than putting your finger up to see which way the wind is blowing!


    You CAN NOT be a more blinkered partisan that that!

    Sharm, great to see you back..I you had a great ans restful time with your sister.

    Thanks a bunch for the link to Russert's interview with Colin Powell. It was a great read! This surprised me because I have had the impession that he really strongly opposed ourpeople are misinformed about him much more than I have been.

    entry at the time:

    "I didn’t think the war was a mistake at the time we entered into it. It was a war that I would have preferred to avoid, and I said to the president in August of 2002, “Let’s take this to the UN and try to solve it, because there are consequences, both unintended and intended, associated with entering into a conflict with Iraq that are going to be difficult. We break it, we’re going to own it. We’re going to be liberators, we’re also going to be occupiers.” And the president did that, he took it to the UN. But he did not get a satisfactory solution from the UN, and he made a decision to use military force, and I supported him in that. But I think we have handled the aftermath of the fall of Baghdad in, in a very ineffective way."

    I think that I and many others have formed a skewed opinion of his actual views. They are much more nuanced and deviate from the conventional wisdom about him.

    I plan on bookmarking this so I can point it out to the Major in our ongoing debate re Bush lied but everyone else with access to the same material for years didn't.

    Hope to see you here more often.

    Grammie

    I miss you too, Sharon. Come back soon!

    Hey, Sharon, you might be amused to know that despite your history with Mike, you have now achieved sainthood in his book, chiefly because he likes to use you as an example against Bob... :D

    Cecelia misinterprets (again): "chiefly because he likes to use you as an example against Bob..."

    You are wrong again Cecelia....I lauded Sharon despite disagreeing with many of her stands on the war, because she showed a consistant and genuine concern for the individual soldiers who have to fight this war. The empathy she displayed impressed me very much, regardless of what her opinion of me might have been...which is something only she would know.

    Sharon is the only war supporter on this board who showed consistant and genuine concern about the plight of the troops. She also showed a willingness to look at both sides fairly...something conspicuously absent on this board most of the time.

    Cecelia, you really should stop trying to interpret the thoughts and motives of others, because you're just not very good at it.

    The first time mike listens to a viewpoint he doesn't agree with will be the only time he can evaluate the impartiality of the posters here. hypocrisy anyone?

    Laura wets her panties:

    ------------------------------------------------
    Even if I were a candy ass, fag or fag hater, I still have a great like and have a positive attitude about life and our country.

    That's more than I can say about some whiney mouthed loser. Can't nobody stand to be around you, tell the truth. The highlight of your day is this board. You aint a loser?
    Posted by: George Bush at June 11, 2007 1:02 PM
    ------------------------------------------------

    You are in real life as you express yourselh here.
    Posted by: George Bush at June 11, 2007 8:53 AM
    =============================

    You were sayin'?

    bitter moron schizo BUSHWIPE!

    Laura is now creaming her panties!

    ------
    Defending GW is not being bitter dumbass. It's idiots like you that turn your back on your country for your hatred of GW both as partisan issues and on apersonal dislike for the man. You like most liberals liek bad news to come out of Iraq and that includes soldiers deaths.

    You are nothing more than a chicken shit.
    Posted by: George Bush at June 11, 2007 1:10 PM
    ========

    You ever heard of a hard core Liberal by the name of Newt Gingrich?

    Breaking NEWS!!

    Even him is dumping on GW Dumbya.

    LOL!!

    There goes ole 'George' agin....postin' and insultin away just as hard an fast as his little ole fingers can type.

    Hurry, 'George' hurry! ....Lunchtime will be over soon!

    Here ya go, Laura, enjoy yourself:

    --------------------
    "Newt Gingrich is one of those who fear that Republicans have been branded with the label of incompetence. He says that the Bush administration has become a Republican version of the Jimmy Carter presidency when nothing seemed to go right."

    And later, there's this. "Not since Watergate," Gingrich said, "has the Republican Party been in such desperate shape. Let me be clear: 28 percent approval of the president, losing every closely contested Senate seat except one, every one that involved an incumbent — that's a collapse."
    ===========================

    Laura, do tell us, why does Newt hate America?

    LOL!!

    Laura is PMS-ing:

    ------------
    What do you have to say about a party backing a man caught on tape accepting a $90k bribe?
    Posted by: George Bush at June 11, 2007 1:21 PM
    =============

    What "party" Laura?

    I haven't seen Democrats or LBRULS screaming and hollering for "his innocence" as you BUSHWIPES still do for Libby.

    Any more cliches, Laura?
    Say, what are the latest talking points from Dr. Weiner?

    Laura, the foul mouthed (R) strategist barks:

    ---
    I guess a man that was so much despised in the 90's by democrats and one whose beliefs and opinions were questioned is now an authority?

    The republicans did not lose that much this past November. They lost seats they had gained in primarily blue states. The tide will change before the next election.
    Posted by: George Bush at June 11, 2007 1:30 PM
    =====

    It is called denial, Laura.

    Your unconditional defense of Moron in Chief is trumped by the opinion of a man (R) with presidential aspirations, saying he could do much better than GW Dumbya.

    What's the next cliche, Laura?

    Laura keeps bitching about her PMS:

    ------
    He should be in jail righ now. I'd love to be the prison warden where they send that BOY.

    Just keep up your hollerin about corruption in the Republaican party. The more you hooler the more you look like idiots. Sandy Burglar was disbarred Friday. Willie has been disbarred. Guess that leaves Lanny Davis.
    Posted by: George Bush at June 11, 2007 1:39 PM
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    -----------------------------------------
    You are in real life as you express yourselh here.
    Posted by: George Bush at June 11, 2007 8:53 AM
    =============================


    Laura, here are two words you probably haven't heard in your limited illiteracy: "Due Process"

    Let me add to your qualities:

    fascist bitter moron schizo BUSHWIPE!

    Thanks Bob!

    "You aint bothering me with that simple line Mike."

    The fact that you were compelled to respond is at odds with the words within your response.

    The more you 'hooler' the more you look like an idiot.

    Is lunchtime over with yet? Did dirtymouth 'George' have to punch back in yet?

    Laura HAS LEFT THE BUILDING!

    Too early, to my chagrin!

    --
    Is that the best you can do? Point out my spelling. Bwahahahaha. That's just typos from typing too fast and not proof reading.
    ===
    ------------
    You are in real life as you express yourselh here.
    Posted by: George Bush at June 11, 2007 8:53 AM
    =======


    Poor sucker. Living proof of the damage Moron in Chief has inflicted upon the USA.

    Get help! Laura!

    If I ever need to have my worldview reafirmed, all I need to do is come and read a few of 'George Bush's' fowl mouthed lunchtime tirades...and then I know....I wouldn't wanna be like him!

    4:27 - his opinions are not always labeled as "commentary" - there's my problem with this program and that's where he loses credibility.

    He weaves them in and out of the facts. So it's not really a newscast, is it? MSNBC and Olbermann need to stop referring to it as such.

    You can dance around with words as much as you want but you still end up as an Olbermann apologist, which means you will need to get the last word - so go for it.

    Posted by: at June 10, 2007 4:44 PM

    Why should my NEXT word be the LAST word, are you conceding defeat already?

    Might as well, you're making my point for me...

    First you say:

    His audience should be smart enough to form their own opinions...

    Then you insinute:

    But not smart enough to tell facts from opinion? A newscast from commentary?

    Which is it?

    I know I can tell tell OPINION from FACT. A fact is something that can be demonstrated as true through imperical evidence. The sky is bluish. An opinion is just that, an opinion. I like the color blue, and I think you should too...

    Are you really that stupid you need someone to label what is fact and what is opinion for you?

    And no, Countdown is not a newscast, regardless of what MSNBC or Olbermann calls it. And I couldn't really care less what they call it. This might come as a surprise to you, but television programs are merely vehicles to sell advertising despite whatever high ideal they might aspire towards.

    MSNBC calling Countdown a 'newscast' (which it isn't) might just be in response to Fox calling itself 'fair and balanced (which it isn't). Yes, Fox has differing view points on talk shows, but that hardly constitutes fair and balanced. In fact, it might just be a ploy to give the appearance of fair and balanced. You have to scratch a little deeper under the surface and look at a little more than just who they happen to have on the show. Take a look at the stories, take a look at the promos, take a look at the way questions are framed, take a look at equal time and opportunity.

    How do you feel about O'Reilly saying things like 'we only use facts.' Then, expousing his opinion about current events just about as often as he can.

    Scarborough seems to run a fairly balanced program if you look at it overall and not just segment to segment. And that's on a cable channel most OWer's ostracize, just because of the program before it.

    Olbermann apologist? Uh, no. I've watched 'the factor' about 2-1 more than Countdown, but neither one all that much.

    If I want 'news' I read the newspaper, not tune into the 'infotainment' of cable news. Sure the AP can be a little dry, but if you want the straight dope, it's all there.

    "And no, Countdown is not a newscast, regardless of what MSNBC or Olbermann calls it. And I couldn't really care less what they call it. MSNBC calling Countdown a 'newscast' (which it isn't) might just be in response to Fox calling itself 'fair and balanced (which it isn't) it might just be a ploy to give the appearance of fair and balanced. . . Take a look at the stories, take a look at the promos, take a look at the way questions are framed. . . Olbermann apologist? Uh, no."

    Oh, I see. This person, who says he is not an Olbermann apologist, doesn't care what dishonest labelling MSNBC invokes in an attempt to dissuade viewers from the fact that Olbermann is propagandist cheerleader for the far left fringe.

    However, when it comes to Fox labelling itself as "fair and balanced", suddenly our non "Olbermann apologist" comes to life to object, citing all sorts of incontestable and damning evidence that Fox is simply a conduit for RNC Central (Look at the stories !!! Look at the promos !!! and *gasp* look at the way THE QUESTIONS ARE FRAMED !!!) The outrage!

    NEW YORK - On a winter day when bomb blasts at an Iraqi university killed dozens and the United Nations estimated that 34,000 civilians in Iraq had died in 2006, MSNBC spent nearly nine minutes on the stories during the 1 p.m. hour. A CNN correspondent in Iraq did a three-minute report about the bombings.

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    Neither story merited a mention on Fox News Channel that hour.

    That wasn't unusual. Fox spent half as much time covering the Iraq war than MSNBC during the first three months of the year, and considerably less than CNN, according to the Project for Excellence in Journalism.

    The difference was more stark during daytime news hours than in prime-time opinion shows. The Iraq war occupied 20 percent of CNN's daytime news hole and 18 percent of MSNBC's. On Fox, the war was talked about only 6 percent of the time.

    The independent think tank's report freshens a debate over whether ideology drives news agendas, and it comes at a delicate time for Fox. Top Democratic presidential candidates have refused to appear at debates sponsored by Fox. Liberals find attacking Fox is a way to fire up their base.

    "It illustrates the danger of cheerleading for one particular point or another because they were obviously cheerleaders for the war," said Jon Klein, CNN U.S. president. "When the war went badly they had to dial back coverage because it didn't fit their preconceived story lines."

    Fox wouldn't respond to repeated requests to make an executive available to talk about its war coverage.

    So how to explain the divergent priorities? Different opinions on what is newsworthy? A business decision?

    A mere coincidence?

    Fox News Channel viewers argue that their favorite network is simply the most fair. Fox has long objected to suggestions that its newscasts go through a conservative filter. Surveys have shown its audience is dominated by Republicans.

    There are no similar differences in priorities among the broadcast evening-news programs, where Iraq was the top story between January and the end of March. NBC's "Nightly News" spent 269 minutes on Iraq, ABC had 251 and CBS 238, according to news consultant Andrew Tyndall.

    Another story that has reflected poorly on the Bush administration, the controversy over U.S. attorney firings, also received more attention on MSNBC (8 percent of the newshole) and CNN (4 percent) than on Fox (2 percent), the Project for Excellence in Journalism found.

    Tim Graham of the conservative Media Research Center, said Fox has always claimed to report from an American perspective and to not follow the pack. While Graham said he may have questions about the PEJ's methodology, he doesn't dispute the results.

    His group published its own study last year about the content of coverage. Fox didn't have its head in the sand; there were more negative stories about what was happening in Iraq than positive. But his group's view was that Fox was more balanced while CNN and MSNBC were relentlessly pessimistic. Between May 15 and July 21 of last year, Fox aired nearly twice as many stories about successes in Iraq as CNN and MSNBC combined, he said.

    Most coverage of Iraq focuses on what gets blown up, he said.

    "The problem we have with the media elite is that they clearly see Fox as pandering to an audience and they don't see CNN as pandering to an audience," Graham said. "That's where I think the double standard sets in."

    While polls say its size is diminishing, there's clearly an audience that resists the general tenor of war coverage. GOP presidential candidate Rudolph Giuliani was applauded during last week's debate when he wondered aloud what would happen if the American war effort succeeds over the next few months. "Are we going to report that with the same amount of attention that we would report the negative news?" he said.

    Klein disputed the idea that CNN doesn't give a complete picture of what is happening in Iraq.

    "Certain folks don't want to see any bad news," he said. "It's our job to report all of the news."

    The project's findings surprised MSNBC chief executive Dan Abrams, who has been pushing his network to concentrate on politics and inside-the-Beltway issues lately.

    "I'm not going to get on a high horse and judge our competition based on the numbers," he said. "We are looking for the right balance."

    Fox's business interests may depend on less negative news about Iraq.

    If Fox's audience is dominated by Republicans who are disgusted about hearing bad news on Iraq, it would stand to reason that you'd want to feed them less of it. Bill O'Reilly touched upon that idea on the air one night last December, telling viewers that the lowest-rated segment of his show the previous night was when Iraq was discussed. Ratings jumped at talk about Britney Spears, he said.

    The danger is whether those concerns eat away at journalistic credibility.

    They're a news network, said CNN's Klein, "so it is surprising that they're not covering the biggest story in the country and the world."

    The Project for Excellence in Journalism steered clear of questions about what its findings proved. "We just wanted to tell people that it does make a difference where you go for the news," said the group's Mark Jurkowitz.

    So with less on-air attention being paid to Iraq during the first few months of the year, what filled the void for Fox? PEJ's report said the network gave the death of Anna Nicole Smith significantly more air time than its rivals.

    ___

    Fox News Channel is owned by News Corp.

    However, when it comes to Fox labelling itself as "fair and balanced", suddenly our non "Olbermann apologist" comes to life to object, citing all sorts of incontestable and damning evidence that Fox is simply a conduit for RNC Central (Look at the stories !!! Look at the promos !!! and *gasp* look at the way THE QUESTIONS ARE FRAMED !!!) The outrage!


    Posted by: hank at June 11, 2007 5:30 PM

    Not that I'd expect you to know the difference, Hank, but I wasn't 'objecting' to anything. I was merely putting it in context. You see, unlike you, I think cable channels can run their ship anyway they like.

    Apparently you missed the part where I said I've watched O'Reilly more than Olbermann.

    I have no problem with people complaining about a rightward bend at FOX NEWS.....Go for it. I don't watch it and I am conservative as they come.....Though FOX NEWS does seem to be one speck of red in a sea of blue.....

    But the out-right denial about NBC's leftward leanings is very amusing..... especially after......


    AHHHHH look out!......

    The Political Nexus of Politics and Terror!

    dun, dun dunnnn.

    ahheeee....be afraid, be very afraid!....

    The new Rush Limbaugh of the left has little to do with journalism but continues acting like Edward R. Murrow. Nice to see so many still willing to defend the doofuss.

    Oh yes....and my other past-time.....

    How is that war funding resolution going leftists.....And how about that effective "no confidence" vote on the AG.....I don't think we live in a parliamentary system so my question is simple........Why?

    And this is my post today, the 1,503rd day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    "I have no problem with people complaining about a rightward bend at FOX NEWS.....Go for it..."

    So, you're on record here saying you 'demand truth in advertising from MSNBC', but with Fox's 'fair and balanced mantra', not so much.

    At least you ADMIT you're a partisan...

    I'd say complain about both or don't complain about either one...

    No....

    I'd say a flim-flammer claiming to be an investigative journalist who is nothing more than a leftist propaganda spewer is funny, yet sad and its good he has been exposed......

    Compared to a news network that has percentages of coverage slightly different than their leftist leaning cohorts....also....remember I said a red speck in a sea of blue......try to use my quote in context, chicken blogger.

    Does FOX NEWS allow different opinion, left and right, onto their shows? From what I read here and see on the FOX NEWS website, it seems they do.....even the bad ol' Billo had Sharpton on his show.

    What about Olbermann?......Does the Rush Limbaugh of the left allow conservative opnion on his show, chicken blogger?

    "I'd say a flim-flammer claiming to be an investigative journalist who is nothing more than a leftist propaganda spewer is funny, yet sad and its good he has been exposed......"

    Since Cee has a hard time reading and retaining, I'll belabor the point once more...Countdown being called a newscast is akin to Fox news being called fair and balanced. And so what? One is a show, the other is a whole damn network. If you think I'm complaining about Fox, I'm not. I just don't see how someone can attack Olbermann and defend Fox. Try reading the thread again.

    "Compared to a news network that has percentages of coverage slightly different than their leftist leaning cohorts..."

    Paranoid ramblings...

    "....also....remember I said a red speck in a sea of blue......try to use my quote in context, chicken blogger."

    Why? You don't. I merely addressed the fact that you said you don't have a problem with people complaining about Fox. That's the point I was dealing with. Your assertion that the most popular cable news channel is a 'red speck' in a sea of blue is so far removed from reality, I chose to ignore it.

    "Does FOX NEWS allow different opinion, left and right, onto their shows? From what I read here and see on the FOX NEWS website, it seems they do.....even the bad ol' Billo had Sharpton on his show."

    Already covered that one at 2:45, please try to keep up.

    "What about Olbermann?......Does the Rush Limbaugh of the left allow conservative opnion on his show, chicken blogger?"

    Posted by: cee at June 11, 2007 7:31 PM

    No, and so what? He should, he'd get better ratings. But so what? It's his show. It's a damned television program. Like Limbaugh's fans, the people who watch Countdown, like it. So what?

    Why is that such a problem for you?

    If you think Olbermann is so full of shit and your perspective is the 'correct' one, then you should be GLAD Olbermann is on the air.

    Why do you feel so threatened by opposing views?

    Cee is fact challenged:

    The Iraq war occupied 20 percent of CNN's daytime news hole and 18 percent of MSNBC's. On Fox, the war was talked about only 6 percent of the time.

    =

    "Compared to a news network that has percentages of coverage slightly different than their leftist leaning cohorts..."

    Cee thinks THREE TIMES as much is 'slightly different percentages.'

    Go ahead and pull that head out for some air, Cee...

    My previous questions.....

    How is that war funding resolution going leftists".....And how about that effective "no confidence" vote on the AG.....I don't think we live in a parliamentary system so my question is simple.......

    Why?....ooops....nevermind, the impotent democrats failed to even muster cloture on their nonbinding political statement!

    Hey leftists.....we have a system that allows for the represetative branch to impeach members of the executive and move to remove them from office.....remember?

    We don't use no-confidence votes like the brits....

    Why has Bush not been impeached?
    Why has Cheney not been impeached?
    Why has Gonzales not been impeached?

    They are soooooo eeevil and criminal....it should be easy?

    Why did The President get his war money?

    Hello? Chicken bloggers, Professor Honeydew?

    Where are those HUGE anti-bush/anti-war protests I was promised 6 months ago?

    Is everyone at the beach?

    Hello?

    And this is my post today, the 1,503rd day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    Run Cee, the Eeeeeeevil 'leftist media' is coming for you!

    Cee can only defend his president by asking the Dem's why he hasn't been impeached.

    Good defense...

    Bush is very popular!

    How 'bout some new quotes, Cee?

    In other words, what's SGT Liam Madden saying these days?

    Is he even still alive?

    .....And popular among vulnurable ethnic Albanians seeking freedom.....I wonder why?

    And no chicken blogger, I marvel at the irrelevancy of the democrats as they play political games during a serious time.....

    people are fighting a war.....

    people are trying to protect the country from radicals sworn to kill civilians....

    And all the democrats do is FAIL.

    Sad, its sad!......really, there's a tear in my eye!

    No quote from Madden, Remember when Cheney got liquored up and shot his friend in the face? .....if you read it carefully and perhaps slooooowly it is obvious that Joshua Sparling is not being quoted....It is a quote from The New York Times, covering a pathetic gathering of leftists who hate America and the troops.....

    You gotta a problem with it?

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    a pathetic gathering of leftists who hate America and the troops.....that Why do you care what my name is was a part of.....

    What did you say to Mr. Sparling?

    Nerve......

    struck

    Hank, you skipped my personal favorite from the tortured logic of Chicken Blogger:

    "Yes, Fox has differing view points on talk shows, but that hardly constitutes fair and balanced. In fact, it might just be a ploy to give the appearance of fair and balanced."

    That Fox is one deep sly flim flam outfit.

    Why they have guests with different opinions as a PLOY to prove they have guests with different opinions.

    Shameful I say! Absolutely shameful!

    Nut MSNBC and KO aren't that low. They only have hosts and guests who agree with each other as a ploy to be fair and balanced. Or something like that.

    Too much.

    Grammie

    Chicken Blogger, Sparling 'supposedly' received a Xmas card with a death threat that later turned out to be a death threat sent by a white supremacist.

    His 'supposed' death threat was actually a real death threat sent by a white supremacist.

    And this earth shattering revalation of yours is apropos of what?

    Grammie

    Mmm...the NYT quote does not say, "Sparling says he was spat at." It says, "Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back."

    Now, my reading comprehension may not be as good as some, but it seems that either the reporter saw the incident or it was seen by someone that this reporter deems credible.

    Now I am no fan of The Times normally (left leaning to put it nicely), but it seems this was a case of the lovely, hateful left showing their true colors once again....anti-American, anti-troops.

    Now you may not like Sparling's politics, his friends or his opinion of George Bush.....but he did serve his country and spitting on him is a pretty bad thing.....

    Unless you have EVIDENCE that The New York Times got the story wrong and no one spat at this veteren, you have nothing.

    ho, hum.....am I debating the investigative journalist Keith Olbermann or just one of his apologists?

    Character assasination of a veteran.....nice tactic leftist...continue, please!

    And this is my post today, the 1,503rd day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    Truth?....Your opinion of Sparling and the use of the nutroots slash and burn against him does little to my faith in his message that his sacrifice to help the Iraqi people fight against radical islam was worth it to him.

    You can continue to demean his service, gents, you're not going to persuade me to your ill-informed opinion.

    The congress has to decide whether to allow the administration the ability to fast-track visas for Iraqi nationals wanting to come to The States.....we will see if the left does the same thing good ol' McGovern wanted....NO acceptance of South Vietnamese nationals who ended up re-educated by McGovern's ideological brothers from the north or just plain murdered by same....the left......

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam,"

    Today's Iraqi refugees?....see the following.....

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/world/20070417-101214-9988r.htm

    Unlike the left, President Bush does not want to abandon the Iraqi people.....quickly withdraw American troops and it seems likely the refugee numbers will increase.....

    Al Qaeda wants instability in Iraq and in the Palestinian territory....it creates their terrorists......You seem to want the same. That's nice.

    This is the truth that those who blame America for the ills in the world....the left....do not like to face.

    Keep it up, you guys are just digging such a nice hole for yourselves.

    And this is my post today, the 1,503rd day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    Silly me, Chicken Blogger. I have read enough here that I should have known exactly what you meant even though you didn't say it.

    Hey, if your system works just think how much time and wear and tear on your fingers you will save. If you work at it I bet you could get it down to five or six words at the most could .

    Fox and Friends-Sparling-supposedly-Death Threat-Hannity-White Supremacist.

    Fox and Friends, that lying right wing show lied that Sparling, that right wing POS supposedly, he is a lying right wing POS after all, received a Xmas card Death Threat, yeah like we can believe anything they say.

    Hannity, one of the biggest lying POS around, had Sparling, see earlier reference to him being a POS, and Hannity lied (he actually only implied but he knew he was lying) it was from a heroic saintly (the only kind there are) left winger.

    In defiance of all logic it turned out that Sparling, that lying POS, actually did get the 'supposed', he just got lucky, Death Threat from a really low down scumbag murderous POS White Supremacist and I agree totally with that description.

    And in conclusion that proves that Cee and Grammie are stupid, evil, hypocritical really BIG TIME lying POS.

    Grammie

    So tell me "Name", why can't you get Olbermann to devote two segments of his show to the "Iraqi Refuge Crisis" like he did Paris Hilton?

    You know gents.....my repeated quotes would serve you two lost souls a great service.....especially Sir Loin of Milquetoast's admonition a couple of months back.....

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!"

    ###
    Those poorly attended protests of '60's throw-backs need more warm bodies to move the timid leftist ruling elitie to REAL action.....

    like impeachment hearings....
    defunding resolutions and.......
    troop caps legislation.....

    Come on now, there are bigger fish in the ol' sea than little ol' me, ain't there?

    How about those protests, leftists?

    I'll just remain committed to the last gentleman I always quote...oh my...he's even a democrat!....

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    Is this disabled veteran like Sparling, a

    "Delusional, hypocritical madman,"

    too?


    G'Night losers.

    Couldn't miss this one.....

    "Cee totally dismisses the civil war in iraq.

    "He thinks the only violence is caused by Al Qaeda."


    ###
    Wrong again, loser.....I am well aware that radical elements in Iraq want to prevail.....a la: "al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias," from my Kerrey quote........

    I just do not want to abandon the majority of the country to these evil people like you do, loser.

    Thanks for giving me the opportunity to post this yet one more time.....

    And this is my post today, the 1,503rd day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    My name is Cee
    And this is my war
    For Bush and his buddies
    I am such a whore

    I call myself Cee
    And I lack basic knowledge
    I should call myself Dee
    For my grades back in college

    When I watch Countdown
    It makes me feel Icky
    My wife has a George Bush mask
    For when I feel frisky

    I need to save the world
    From the one known as Keef
    To be a good NeoCon
    Is my undying belief

    For Bush and his buddies
    I carry the water
    I pray for our soldiers
    The ones that get slaughtered

    I sure love Bush
    He’s never made a mistake
    All those on Countdown
    All those are just ‘fake’

    I never question authority
    I’m a good citizen
    I read all the red blogs
    I need it like medicine

    I like to chase unicorns
    And believe in fairy tales
    Insecure in my manliness
    I hate metrosexual males

    If you want to debate me
    Just copy and paste
    I’ve got all the quotes
    Pasted all out of place

    I am so partisan
    It’s not hard to see
    But I don’t drink Kool-Aid
    No, for me it’s High Cee!

    Vermont Marine leads protest of war
    By Lisa Rathke, Associated Press Writer | October 26, 2006

    MONTPELIER, Vt. --If he'd known the United States was going to invade Iraq, U.S. Marine Corps Sgt. Liam Madden says he probably wouldn't have enlisted a month before. Still, he has no regrets.


    The 22-year-old Bellows Falls man, who spent seven months in Iraq, is leading a group of service members who are protesting the nation's occupation of Iraq and calling on Congress to withdraw all American troops.

    "I'm concerned about the reasons we went to war, about the profiteering," he said Thursday from Quantico, Va. "I'm concerned about the human life that's being lost, every aspect of the war."

    At least 500 service members from different branches of the military have joined the appeal, under the whistle-blower protection act, Madden said. Soldiers can add their name to the movement on the Web site http://www.appealforredress.org.

    At 18, just out of high school, Madden decided the Marines was a better option than college, allowing him time to grow up and challenge himself, he said. But he had doubts before the 2003 start of the war "when the current administration started inundating us with fear."

    About two years later, he was sent to Iraq for seven months.

    "Iraq, I never approved of it, but I put my opinions kind of on hold," he said. "My feelings started to intensify and coalesce when I came back to the U.S. and started informing myself more."

    He felt comfortable expressing his opposition to the war to his family and friends but was nervous about going public about it on a broader scale, he said.

    Now, he's gone public in a big way. He appeared on CNN on Wednesday, and was profiled in his hometown newspaper Thursday. He said he's received mostly supportive e-mails from fellow service members.

    "Very few people are outright mad at me for expressing my opinions of war," he said.

    That includes his parents, who both say they are proud of him. His mother initially supported the war but now says her views are changing.

    "It seems like it's gone on longer than I thought and probably not executed as well as it could it have been," said Oona Madden, 53.

    Will Madden, who lives in Keene, N.H., said he had always opposed the war.

    "I think he's very courageous," he said of his son. "I'm very proud of him. I wish my heart was more fluent in English to express how I feel."

    Hank, you skipped my personal favorite from the tortured logic of Chicken Blogger:

    "Yes, Fox has differing view points on talk shows, but that hardly constitutes fair and balanced. In fact, it might just be a ploy to give the appearance of fair and balanced."

    Let me put this in terms you might understand 'Planet Squawkins':

    Now, a news network that WANTS PEOPLE TO THINK IT IS FAIR AND BALANCED couldn't possibly JUST HAVE RIGHT WINGERS on their shows, right? That would be foolish, and people would see right through it, right?

    So, perhaps, to give a semblance of being 'Fair and Balanced' they have SOME differing views here and there, but how they handle those guests is a bit different.

    Perhaps, not giving them the same amount of time to talk. Perhaps having their right wing hosts frame questions in such a way as to make them look bad. Perhaps having two or three conservatives and one liberal. And that says nothing about the crawl at the bottom of the screen, the promos and teasers, and the handling of news (as seen in the disparity with the coverage of Iraq as detailed above).

    I'm watching O'Reilly right now and his teasers and quotes and framing of questions are decidedly anti-liberal. Because Sharpton is on there, suddenly the whole program is 'fair and balanced' ?

    Do you honestly think just having an opposing view on some of their shows AUTOMATICALLY makes an entires News network FAIR and BALANCED?

    If so, you must not have ANY claim against the EEEEEvil mainstream media. All sorts of other news venues I've heard the OW regulars rail against as having 'liberal bias' have differing views.

    Look, I could care less what Fox does. I also could care less what Olbermann does. I am impartial to either one. They aren't all good and they aren't all bad.

    I'd be wary of an opinion show that's billed as News, and I'd be wary of a Cable channel that has to keep reminding it's viewers how 'fair and balanced' it is.

    It's you and you're ilk that have the bias against Countdown. I am indifferent to both Fox and Countdown. But I am not indifferent to hypocrisy which is what I see in you.

    The type of 'fairness' you would demand of Olbermann if YOU were the producer of his show if NOT found on any Fox program, and you know it.

    I happen to think most people can figure out what they're watching, judge opinion vs fact, decide whether a host or guest has made their case or not.

    And that was my original assertion at 4:27 that started that particular sub-discussion.

    You call that 'tortured logic?'

    My name is ' '
    And I, too, can write prose
    Cee sampled one time too many
    So he had to be hosed

    I think I'm so smart
    'cause I "Question Authority"
    But examined more closely
    It's just a vapid inanity

    Righties all march in lockstep
    It's the 43rd Reich
    If you don't believe me
    Then you can take a hike

    I claim to think for myself
    Terrorists don't make me afraid
    But there's lots else to worry about
    I drink the leftist Kool Aid

    Ice caps melting, oceans rising
    I know I just can't take no more
    Zero inches since last decade
    But it's still "Mama, please lock the door!"

    Vice President Dick
    Wants to tap my phone
    I am innocent but
    I can't go home

    They must be watching me
    Stormtroopers await
    Has the Gestapo
    Chosen my fate?

    It's all Bush's fault
    He brought on all this hate
    They used to fuckin' love us
    When Bubba & Monica used to date

    Bush bad, I'm mad
    It's sad, we've been had
    Dem's won, but nothing's done
    It's no fun, where's the sun?

    I strut my stuff
    And I play my game
    But never will I ever
    sign my own name.

    I am so happy, an entire poem just for me....Thank you.

    I will print it out and cherish it forever.

    I know pointing out the failures of the left's political ruling class both in ideology and actual action (0/2 now the past several weeks....Iraq supplemental bill and the cloture on the AG no-confidence vote), really gets the natives angry, but to see it result in such creative and spot-on poetry is thrilling!

    And once again, I will ask.....IF the American people are so much in support of the radical agenda of the democrats....why do the democrats keep failing? Why the timidity? Why the lack of resolve to meet the promises made in November '06. Leftists on this very site claimed a war's end and an irrelevent George Bush after the election. Why do these same imbeciles change the subject when I ask them about it?

    Attack me specifically all you want....you continue to avoid a measured defense of your pathetic leadership that has lower approval ratings than President Bush. The poor behavior and poor arguments is expected, especially from fools who believe Keith Olbermann is a qualified TV news anchor.

    And this is my post today, the 1,504th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey

    I see that Name didn't bother to answer my question--why is it that they can't get Olbermann to devote two segments of his show to stories they feel are oh-so-very-important that they post here in great length? No, Keith Olbermann (D) would rather cover Paris Hilton for two segments of his show.

    And congrats to the Olbyloon who has now emerged with an entirely new theory as to why MSNBC labels Countdown as a News show (to counter the Fox claim of fair and balanced). Okay Keith Krazy--explain why KEITH OLBERMANN keeps trying to pass himself off as a fair and impartial journalist with "no dog in the fight" etc? Spin that you idiot.

    As usual, Cecelia is dead wrong. MUCH of the left has been for gay marriage for awhile now.It's not putting your finger in the air about anything.

    We are a country supposedly based on freedom .
    To deny one group a people the right to live the way they choose, when they are not hurting anyone, is WRONG, thus the republican platform.

    Posted by: at June 11, 2007 3:57 PM


    Much of the left certainly is for gay marriage, I never said otherwise. However, enough of the rest of the country is not, so most of the Democratic presidential candidates oppose it, in order to stay viable politically.

    My point was that Dowd makes a case that this tide is slowly turning in the country, and she made it in order to illogically call Republicans hypocrites for not turning with it, but says nothing about Dem candidates who do covertly back gay marriage but won't overtly because they'd lose votes!

    the idiot Cee thinks that the "left has a radical agenda".
    That agenda is for the administration to follow the law. And the Gonzales scandal is a prime example of how Bush puts politics over law.

    So a radical agenda to cee is hold Bush's feet to the fire for following the law.

    Nice.

    Many of the fired attorneys have spoken on why they were fired. They said that they were asked to follow Bush's policies, not the law.

    Cee continues to lack the basic requirements in being a good American. But he has all the requirements of being this site's #1 partisan hack who would rather support the president than care what is right or lawful.

    Posted by: at June 12, 2007 12:46 PM


    What law are you referring to?

    Oh boy.....I will repeat myself.....

    The congress has the power to impeach all of these evil and wicked men......there has been not ONE, repeat, not ONE, serious attempt to initiate procedures pursuiant to those ends.....

    If it is so obvious the law was broken by Bush, Cheney and Alberto.....why do they remain fully employed?.....

    Give me a break....a President with a 30% approval rating can maintain such power over another branch of government? How is this possible?

    I know why....I would like to hear the pathetic excuses those who keep cutting and pasting "facts" have to say....

    Please try to post cogent ideas that you have yourself....not the boiler-plate tripe I see above....This person's OPINION, that person's opinion....

    My basic claim: If Bush and Co. broke the law...impeachment should be the remedy.

    Have at it....stand by your opinion and act...

    The lack of such real action (just like the Iraq War funding bill) proves to me that all of the bluster is just that.....bluster. The radical left has no real "hand" and their bluffing is pathetic.

    My other questions remain unanswered (not surprisingly)...

    "IF the American people are so much in support of the radical agenda of the democrats....why do the democrats keep failing? Why the timidity? Why the lack of resolve to meet the promises made in November '06. Leftists on this very site claimed a war's end and an irrelevent George Bush after the election. Why do these same imbeciles change the subject when I ask them about it?

    Attack me specifically all you want....you continue to avoid a measured defense of your pathetic leadership that has lower approval ratings than President Bush. The poor behavior and poor arguments is expected, especially from fools who believe Keith Olbermann is a qualified TV news anchor.

    And this is my post today, the 1,504th day since the declaration of Mission Accomplished in Iraq.....

    I am cee, good night and good luck.

    "I'd tell you that the Democrats are talking a good game, but they're not even doing that. Everybody in Congress has to understand something: If they continue to fund this war, it's not just the President who owns it. They own it, too." Sgt. Liam Madden

    "There were a few tense moments, however, including an encounter involving Joshua Sparling, 25, who was on crutches and who said he was a corporal with the 82nd Airborne Division and lost his right leg below the knee in Ramadi, Iraq. Mr. Sparling spoke at a smaller rally held earlier in the day at the United States Navy Memorial, and voiced his support for the administration's policies in Iraq. Later, as antiwar protesters passed where he and his group were standing, words were exchanged and one of the antiwar protestors spit at the ground near Mr. Sparling; he spit back." NYT 1/28/07

    "I think the Vietnamese are better off in Vietnam," George McGovern - NEWSWEEK

    "Lefties: Leave these pathetic drowning rats alone to stew in each other's juices. Get yourselves out in the street and fight this criminal administration in ways that really mean something, and that are noted by more than a handful of keyboard heroes!" Sir Loin of Beef

    "American liberals need to face these truths: The demand for self-government was and remains strong in Iraq despite all our mistakes and the violent efforts of al Qaeda, Sunni insurgents and Shiite militias to disrupt it." DEMOCRAT Bob Kerrey